I've lost motivation because I don't know what to do next

by Sour
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I haven't worked on my website in about two weeks because I've been feeling a little lost. I've completely exhausted my list of keywords for articles and already created tons of backlinks for them, as well as my site (with little results), from profile links. It doesn't seem like much, but it's really all I know how to do seeing as how I'm a beginner. I can't really build a list for this type of niche because after they buy one product, there's nothing else to sell to them (it's for a cure in the health niche).

So, what's supposed to be the next step for me to gain traffic?
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  • Profile picture of the author verbose
    Let this site age build a few more links here and there and maybe 1 article a week.
    Now research another niche and start over
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  • Profile picture of the author tecHead
    Did you do your due diligence and make sure this was a "buying niche"? Do you see other competitors active in the niche? One indication that's easily recognized whether there's 'money' in a niche or not is to pay attention to PPC ads. Are there any? How many? What are advertisers paying?

    If you find positive answers to the above questions, then you can be sure there's money there.

    Not to sound harsh, but you're not really thinking like a "sales person" if you're already telling yourself there's nothing else to sell them.

    Your articles should open up many ideas, for you. The topic(s) you've written them on should open up your mind to what other possibilities there are, (sub-niches). Google will even tell you what people also look for based on those keywords; (bottom of the SERPs page 'related searches').

    You'll hear/read people tell you to only get involved with niches that you're passionate about. For the beginning, this holds truth because you're going to have to work to get anywhere in any niche. If you're not passionate enough about the subject to put in the time it will take to develop your web property as an authority in that niche, then you're not going to make much (if any) money.

    Once you have gained enough confidence in what you're doing and know how to cultivate niche site authority building; then and only then should you venture off into niches you really don't know much about, (or care to know).

    As far as traffic is concerned, of course there's the usual Paid and Free sources; you can find a plethora of references to either by just doing a couple searches on this forum alone.

    Yet, still to this day, the biggest and most consistent form of traffic generation on the Internet is word of mouth. You need to get out there and mingle with the people you're trying to reach. Find out where they hang out; where they commune; where they shop; other sites they visit; other products they're interested in. Get to know them.

    Once you know them, then you'll know how to talk to them and "persuade" them to not only come to your site but stick to your site and even tell their friends & family.

    Social media makes this much easier than it used to be.

    My Nana used to tell me, "If first you don't succeed; keep on suckin' 'til you do get a seed."

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    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
      You should feel good about what you have accomplished - but here is the big stinger.

      If you really feel there is no expansion within your niche, and you don't intend to fully exploit it (btw, if you are building a list for it, this is future leverage for JV's etc and I for one don't believe you'd be at a dead end if you were listbuilding as well as selling) then you should finish the site up, and look into selling it.

      Then, go out and have a bit of a bigger dream and create a new plan that will not leave you feeling trapped.

      Your argument supports why many will tell you to enter a niche that you truly have an interest in. If you really like what you are doing/selling you will not see the dead ends.
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  • Profile picture of the author Franck Silvestre
    First, let me give you my take on this. I do not enter a niche if all I can sell people is one product.

    Print this near your computer: profit is in the SECOND sale.

    If you are just starting out, do not try to build many sites in many niches. It works, but not now, and not for you as a noob.

    Choose one profitable niche with truckloads of traffic, and build a list of subscribers.

    As for your question about traffic, there are so called free traffic methods and paid traffic methods.

    1) so called free: article marketing, forum marketing, blogging, blog comments
    2) paid: adwords, banner advertising, etc.

    Make sure to use only one traffic gen method at a time though. Once it turns to be a profit, go to the next.

    And if you are still stuck, confused and frustrated, I advise you get a mentor.

    Best,
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  • Profile picture of the author Joel Gray
    Submit your articles to EZA and other directories, submit them to Blog Carnival, then make Squidoo lens and Hubpages, be sure and bookmark the with the Social site and then turn your articles into videos, mp3's and put them into an autoresponder along with an opt-in page on your site/blog. Do some blog commenting and forum commenting and then you will not only drive some traffic to your site you will have come up with something to do to keep you busy.

    You then need to go and find several other products that are similar to yours or can enhance your products results...they are out there you just need to find them go and check out Clickbank for this. And then you need to post about the affiliate products you have located and then go thru the same process for each affiliate product as you did with your origianl product.

    Then you go and find some PLR products that you can use as bonuses and continue to promote your site following the directions above.

    There is ALWAYS something that you can do to get traffic.

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  • Profile picture of the author Social Espionage
    A familiar story. Micheal Cheney will tell you about his Water Pump, (well he told me anyway). If you have a water pump from the old days, you just pumped and pumped until you got water. You didn't stop, because if you did, you would have to start again.
    When the water slowly starts to come, you gotta keep pumping anyway :-)
    No niche has only one product. There are lots of cures in the health niche, find one related to what you just sold.
    If it was acne then maybe they want body building. If it was wightlos they might need a motivation product. Check out Clickbank and see whats related.
    Don't give up!
    As for traffic, artcicle marketing and Social Traffic are great for newbies.
    Twitter, Facebook and Youtube are my favorite. There's a good free guide below.
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    • Profile picture of the author ExRat
      Hi tecHead,

      My Nana used to tell me, "If first you don't succeed; keep on suckin' 'til you do get a seed."
      +1 rep to Nana

      Yet, still to this day, the biggest and most consistent form of traffic generation on the Internet is word of mouth.
      ...and 1 to you, too.

      Hi aboutalhah,

      Print this near your computer: profit is in the SECOND sale.
      Sage advice.

      Hi Sour,

      I haven't worked on my website in about two weeks because I've been feeling a little lost. I've completely exhausted my list of keywords for articles and already created tons of backlinks for them, as well as my site (with little results), from profile links. It doesn't seem like much, but it's really all I know how to do seeing as how I'm a beginner.
      I don't know if it will help, but I have found over the years that after a lot of effort has been piled into a project, it's quite typical to feel a bit lost, drained, bored etc.

      The trick is to realise that after a brief change of focus, the enthusiasm comes back quickly. But sometimes if you keep trying to push through a particular 'wall' you get nothing but a sore head.

      If you're beating yourself up for feeling lost, it takes longer to recover. If you accept it as normal, it's quicker. But it often takes time to get used to these things and deal with them.

      There is much about working online that is 'out of the ordinary', so remember that we are pioneers forging new paths in business - even when there is a path to follow, many times we are forced to jump back into the unknown in order to get outside the box, develop an edge and stay ahead of the game.

      You can get used to working in a fog where the way ahead is often far from clear. Dust yourself off, take a look at it from a different perspective, then get back 'on the horse'.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarkH45
    You need to build a list in every niche you're in. The reason being is follow up.

    Once the person visits your site and leaves, you've lost them. Place a simple aweber sign up form in your side bar and under each post.

    Get them to subscribe and create an aggressive follow up series that will make the person either buy the one product you are offering or unsubscribe from the list.

    Thinking "I only get into niches where i can sell multiple products" is ridiculous (in my opinion) you would be passing up on some very lucrative niches which target very specific problems (these types of niches are where I see my highest conversion rates)
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  • Profile picture of the author traderfx
    Originally Posted by Sour View Post

    I haven't worked on my website in about two weeks because I've been feeling a little lost. I've completely exhausted my list of keywords for articles and already created tons of backlinks for them, as well as my site (with little results), from profile links. It doesn't seem like much, but it's really all I know how to do seeing as how I'm a beginner. I can't really build a list for this type of niche because after they buy one product, there's nothing else to sell to them (it's for a cure in the health niche).

    So, what's supposed to be the next step for me to gain traffic?
    Sour,

    I'm new too but from what I have learned is think outside the box. What are people in your health niche need? What problems do they have? What are some products that relate to what they currently use?

    Mike.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin Flask
      Hi,

      I can surely relate to your feelings on what to do next.

      Been there, done that.

      You said you created "tons of backlinks". Does that include web 2.0 properties you control - i.e. - Blogger, Weebly, Vox, Squidoo, etc? If not, that is something to consider adding.

      Since you already have written some articles, try re-writing them to include long tail keywords, and various related keywords to make them a little more unique. Place these on other web 2.0 properties and link back to your money page, squeeze page.

      The health niche can be tricky. You need to speak in a language that can only educated, not prescribe or diagnose or it can lead into legal issues.

      Hope this helps get some ideas rolling for you.

      Kevin
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        First off, let me second what Roger said - after a period of intense effort, what you are feeling is entirely normal. You may just need a short break to decompress and regain a longer viewpoint.

        Next, 'building a list' doesn't have to mean you create lifelong relationships. It just means being able to follow up on the visitors that don't immediately buy. Get them on a list and you can send them 7, 10, however many followup messages focusing on different benefits, etc. When they reach the end of the sequence, you can send them back to the beginning if you write the messages the right way.

        Say you send one message per week for thirteen weeks - that's thirteen messages, or a full quarter's worth of followup. Many of them won't remember each message, so if you go back to the beginning, you get another 13 chances to sell. People stay on the list until they buy or die (unsubscribe)...

        Something to think about, anyway.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Marshall
    I was holding off on building a list, but I finally learned my lesson. I realized I needed to build a list! It is one of the foundations to a profitable business!
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  • Profile picture of the author DPSikes
    Regroup, think about what you want, and make a game plan. You know - plan your work, work your plan, and move forward. Always works for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Technista
    Originally Posted by Sour View Post

    I can't really build a list for this type of niche because after they buy one product, there's nothing else to sell to them (it's for a cure in the health niche).
    Perhaps you should concentrate on a referral building strategy. If what you are offering is a cure, you will certainly have happy customers singing your praises!

    My point is this: if you have only one product to sell, you will be spending most of your time looking for new customers. Might as well make that part of your overall plan.
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  • Profile picture of the author Taylor French
    You're totally missing the point of building a list. Most people won't buy the first time they are exposed to a product, or even the second. It can take several exposures to get the sale.

    Also, they may only be willing to buy one product in that niche, but what if they aren't interested in the one you're promoting? Maybe they don't like the color of the header on the sales page. Perhaps the headline doesn't speak to them. What if they were offended by some of the wording on the page?

    If you build a list, you will be able to send them to other (similar) products later. Just because they don't buy the first product they are presented doesn't mean they won't buy a different one later.
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  • Profile picture of the author Erik Ortega
    Persistence really pays off in internet marketing! I've got sites that I created back in February and spent a few months on, left them alone and now I'm seeing real good profits from them...

    Just keep broadening your avenues of income (i.e more niche sites!)
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  • Profile picture of the author NyceGuy
    First of all I LOVE your sincerity, honesty, and "naivety" -- in a good way. You are way above many many newbies who make all the mistakes, do everything and when it all doesn't work out they give up before getting help. You've sought for help, and in this forum people have hearts, and I can see a lot of comments already giving suggestions.

    Originally Posted by Sour View Post

    I haven't worked on my website in about two weeks because I've been feeling a little lost. I've completely exhausted my list of keywords for articles and already created tons of backlinks for them, as well as my site (with little results), from profile links.
    First mistake: Lack of consistency. If today things just seem so gloomy and you feel like the you are just gasping for breath in an endless circle of mum-knows-what, then just take a break from it all and pick it up from tomorrow. Your head will be more clear, and you will have a different scoop of drive.
    Remember : Just determine how much you should do per day, and keep it constant.

    It doesn't seem like much, but it's really all I know how to do seeing as how I'm a beginner.
    When you hit the ceiling on your knowledge base, its time for an upgrade. I would google for an advanced way of doing that which I am stuck at, or go for cheaper products surrounding that problem area on click-bank. Better off, I would come to this forum and look for WSO's on that problem area.

    I can't really build a list for this type of niche because after they buy one product, there's nothing else to sell to them (it's for a cure in the health niche).
    Really? Ok lets see, so now that they are cured from that .... (fill in the blanks), can I show them how them:

    Prevention techniques
    Future Diagnostic techniques
    What symptoms to look for in the future
    Diet recommendations
    Exercise recommendations

    These are just shots from a quick thought. You can beautifully wrap this up as a low-priced report. You can add on it, subtract on it. I really don't what niche you ventured in, so the above is arguable.

    All the best.
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  • [QUOTE=Sour;1449963]I haven't worked on my website in about two weeks because I've been feeling a little lost.QUOTE]

    As has been said a few times in this post consistancy is key
    When I've had enough i move on to other things then start again tomorrow...
    BUT I ALWAYS start again tomorrow.

    Do you have a mentor? that may be your next move...
    Jerdon & Sara
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  • Profile picture of the author Sour
    Wow, I wasn't expecting my thread to be resurrected, but thanks for the words of wisdom and encouragement, guys! I registered to the War Room and that's definitely fueled me a lot more because it's such an inspiring place; it was exactly what I needed.

    I'm already trying out new traffic methods, but you guys are right about building a list. I think I might write a mini-eBook full of tips to give away. Now that I have some clarity and direction, I'm feeling much more motivated.
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