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You'll have to stop posting on OLD threads

by Harvey Segal
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That's right.

How annoying to get an email notification come through
about a forum post with a vaguely familiar title and when
you arrive you discover that someone has resurrected a
thread that is a year old.

Now I believe that this rings alarm bells with the Mods
and they start to carry out extensive background checks
on your profile including getting your history of search
from Google and a list of sites visited from your ISP.

So you have been warned.

If you find this information useful please report back
here next January.


Harvey
#posting #stop #threads
  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    Come on, Harvey. Everyone knows adding a "Great post, thanks" to a year old thread is the very best way to make friends and influence people. :rolleyes:

    Seriously though, sometimes folks don't realize they're looking at an old thread. For those that don't know, look above the OP's name and you'll see the date the thread was started.
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  • Profile picture of the author George Wright
    I will bookmark this thread and post here in Jan. as instructed sir.

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    Im going to wait until after the world ends in 2012 to post 'thanks' on this thread.
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  • Profile picture of the author JustVisiting
    Is it possible for admin to disable posting to threads over a certain age?
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary Huynh
    This is a pet peeve of mine and should be eliminated asap! Either lock posts older than a couple months or make them stand out more so that they're easier to spot.
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    • Profile picture of the author ozduc
      Originally Posted by Gary Huynh View Post

      This is a pet peeve of mine and should be eliminated asap! Either lock posts older than a couple months or make them stand out more so that they're easier to spot.
      What a great idea:confused:

      Now when people do a search on a topic and cant post a question or response they will open a new thread on a topic that was talked about already. Way to fill up the forum with more un-needed threads.
      At least when someone posts in an old thread it shows they have taken the initiative to do a search on the topic before just posting a new thread.
      Besides what is wrong with an old thread being bumped? You can always look at the date when you open it up and realize is old and just close and move on.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fraggler
    I think that there should be more posts in old threads because it shows that people are searching for answers. Sure, the single line response are probably spam but if someone searches for a problem and finds a thread that answers the problem and then contributes to the thread, an appropriate response shouldn't be frowned upon. The person responding to the thread probably isn't even aware it is an old thread if they findit through the search function.

    This is also why old posts shouldn't be locked. If they are still relevant then they should still be open to discussion. What is more annoying is seeing the same questions posted every day when the problems have been answered many times before in the older posts.

    A good post about backlinking, list building or article marketing that is a year old is as good as one that was made yesterday.
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    See you in 2011
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary King
    I agree and understand Harvey. Could the forum code be changed to flag old posts somehow? (color, warning bar, etc)

    Threads my still be valid as other suggest, but at least the late-comer would be aware it's more fo a dated topic.

    Another possibility would be to auto-remove subscriptions after a certain amount of time. I realize automagic things can cause problems, but it's worth considering or debating as others prefer.

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  • Profile picture of the author Harvey Segal
    Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

    Seriously though, sometimes folks don't realize they're looking at an old thread.
    And therefore ... here is my solution.

    "Old thread check" - a $17 plugin that I have developed
    and will be offering as a WSO.

    Note the clever marketing technique. I pinpoint a
    problem, get lots of anxious readers and provide a
    workaround. Add an affiliate program for the plugin and
    this could go seriously viral.

    Maybe you can find a problem in this forum and do the same ?

    Tip: look through very, very old threads with a problem and ask
    to be brought up to date.

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  • Profile picture of the author ShaneRQR
    Not sure if serious...

    So, everyone's supposed to use the search function, because opening a new thread on an already discussed topic is a big no-no, but answering to older threads also violates forum etiquette?

    In other words, users (and especially newbies) are not allowed to participate or ask questions on any topics that have already been discussed more than a few months back?

    Sounds like a great plan.
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    • Profile picture of the author halfpoint
      Originally Posted by ShaneRQR View Post

      Not sure if serious...

      So, everyone's supposed to use the search function, because opening a new thread on an already discussed topic is a big no-no, but answering to older threads also violates forum etiquette?

      In other words, users (and especially newbies) are not allowed to participate or ask questions on any topics that have already been discussed more than a few months back?

      Sounds like a great plan.
      There is a difference between what you're describing and what Harvey is describing.

      There is absolutely nothing wrong with bumping an old thread to add something of value or to ask more specific questions about something that has been discussed throughout the thread.

      There is, however, a huge problem with people bumping really old threads for the purpose of quoting a random post from someone and responding to it with, "Yeah, me too!" or something as equally ridiculous.

      Of course you should use the search function prior to starting a thread, however, you should also only bump an old thread if the situation warrants it.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jared Alberghini
        Originally Posted by Pat Jackson View Post

        There is, however, a huge problem with people bumping really old threads for the purpose of quoting a random post from someone and responding to it with, "Yeah, me too!" or something as equally ridiculous.
        To explain a bit more, many times you see an old thread that has been bumped, the person just so happens to have a product/link/service in their signature that is "the answer" to that particular topic... here's a perfect example from a while back... guess what this person who bumped all these Powerpoint related threads had in their sig... :rolleyes:




        If everyone thinks it's ok just to go crazy bumping old threads, it would turn into spammers searching the forum for related topics just for sig exposure.

        The normal 'bumping' of old threads, if there is something of value to add, or a further question to ask, is not the problem. It's the one liners, and sig spammers that are causing the headaches.

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        • Profile picture of the author Frances Norah S
          Well, if the main problem lies with spammers trying to gain exposure for their sigs, then precautionary measures must be taken instead. Why must an old thread be locked or frowned upon when being bumped if the person who bumped it made some contributions to it?

          Just a suggestion and I believe this will solve the problem.. signatures can only be created after 100 post / one liner post will not be approved for those people who has less than 100 post or so..

          How bout it huh?
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          • Profile picture of the author Killer Joe
            Note to Self:

            It's January 2011, you have less than one year left before 2012.

            * Run up all credit cards to the max.
            * Unsubscribe from remaining 115 lists.
            * Read at least one ebook purchased since 2007, then delete hard drive.
            * Sell remaining 18 years of subscription to the War Room on Craigslist.
            * List all 137 parked domains on Sedo, try to get at least some money back.
            * Start first blog, subject = "taking action".
            * Most important - lose 30 pounds. Trade 140 pound old wife in for 110 pound young hottie.

            KJ

            (Insurance clause to be certain thread gets reopened...
            Is there really a duplicate content penalty on Google, or is GetResponse better than Awber?)
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            • Profile picture of the author bretski
              Originally Posted by Killer Joe View Post

              Note to Self:

              It's January 2011, you have less than one year left before 2012.

              * Run up all credit cards to the max.
              * Unsubscribe from remaining 115 lists.
              * Read at least one ebook purchased since 2007, then delete hard drive.
              * Sell remaining 18 years of subscription to the War Room on Craigslist.
              * List all 137 parked domains on Sedo, try to get at least some money back.
              * Start first blog, subject = "taking action".
              * Most important - lose 30 pounds. Trade 140 pound old wife in for 110 pound young hottie.

              KJ

              (Insurance clause to be certain thread gets reopened...
              Is there really a duplicate content penalty on Google, or is GetResponse better than Awber?)
              OK... That's HELLA FUNNY! You made my day dude!
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      • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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        Originally Posted by Pat Jackson View Post

        There is a difference between what you're describing and what Harvey is describing.

        There is absolutely nothing wrong with bumping an old thread to add something of value or to ask more specific questions about something that has been discussed throughout the thread.

        There is, however, a huge problem with people bumping really old threads for the purpose of quoting a random post from someone and responding to it with, "Yeah, me too!" or something as equally ridiculous.
        But that's not what Harvey said, is it? He didn't say resurrecting old threads with one-liners was annoying, he said resurrecting old threads period was annoying. Had he distinguished between the two there would be no issue with his post.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ralf Skirr
    Originally Posted by Harvey.Segal View Post

    That's right.

    How annoying to get an email notification come through
    about a forum post with a vaguely familiar title and when
    you arrive you discover that someone has resurrected a
    thread that is a year old.

    Now I believe that this rings alarm bells with the Mods
    and they start to carry out extensive background checks
    on your profile including getting your history of search
    from Google and a list of sites visited from your ISP.

    So you have been warned.

    If you find this information useful please report back
    here next January.


    Harvey
    Hm, sorry if my question is dumb...

    What's bad about posting to old threads?

    I frequently read old threads when i search for information on specific products. For example today I researched postaffiliatepro and naturally it brings up some older posts.

    What would be wrong with following up on them?

    Ralf
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  • Profile picture of the author ShaneRQR
    Thanks for the explanation, Pat. That definitely makes more sense to me.
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  • Profile picture of the author bretski
    Originally Posted by Harvey.Segal View Post


    So you have been warned.

    Harvey
    I think that King George said something like this in the late 1700's....and we kicked your Limey arses back across the drink!

    "SEGURGITY! SEGURIGTY! Can be block all IP addresses that don't originate in the US?!"

    (Before I get flagged for some sort of hate crime...I'm joking!)
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  • Profile picture of the author Lightlysalted
    I hate seeing great post, at least if someone has gone to the effort of creating a well written thread we can all provide some decent response.
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  • Profile picture of the author Edge88
    lol, now I will have to come back 1 year from now and post on this thread
    JK I won't do that.

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  • Profile picture of the author fitz10
    I've definitely accidentally bumped old threads. Sometimes I'm just not paying attention to the date posted.
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  • Profile picture of the author rapidscc
    Dang! I thought this was an old thread! Do you mean I'll have to wait
    for a year or two to bump it?

    on a serious note..If the bump was made because of a real inquiry on
    the topic..or something that provides some additional information..it
    feels alright..however, you'll see some of these old threads bumped
    by one liners and you'll feel it was bumped for a "reason"..

    Honestly, you can perceive reasons for bumping, and sometimes it
    doesn't leave a good taste in the mouth. However, we can't
    be 100% sure..so I guess sometimes we just let things be...

    As this is Harvey's thread..I'll make sure to return to it next year..
    maybe around April 1 to make it more memorable

    Starred already (chrome)

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  • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
    Is it annoying? Yes, it causes me to tear my hair out. Mostly because it's just bumped for absolutely no good reason.

    Should it be discouraged? Yes, unless you're doing it to share new information.

    If you're thinking about it, ask yourself a question: Does what you have to say actually add value to the old thread? If it doesn't, then don't post.

    If you're merely trying to get more priveleges, why not just break down and buy a War Room membership instead?

    Before you complain about the cost, think about how much you spend on things like cable TV, Starbucks, or dining out every month? If you cut back on some of that for just a month, you could easily afford a lifetime membership to the War Room.

    That's how cheap it really is.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jared Alberghini
    How does everyone feel about bumping brand new threads?

    : bump :

    :p
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  • Profile picture of the author Andy Hussong
    I understand what you're saying if someone is just "bumping" a thread, but are you telling me that if I do a search on the forum for a particular topic that I need specific help on... that I shouldn't be able to contact people within that thread to request some additional help, ask for current results, or whatever?

    Or am I just misunderstanding? If I am, I apologize.

    I actually see nothing wrong with going to an old thread and commenting if I'm...

    1) asking for additional help/guidance
    2) asking for an update
    3) offering some of my own updated information or results

    ... as long as it either provides additional value or provides my own valuable results.

    Besides, we're always expected to find other threads that have already been started on our topics, rather than starting new threads on something that's already been covered, right?
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  • Profile picture of the author bretski
    There has been a major influx of spammers in this forum as of late. Some of them working in tandem creating WSOs and a couple of shills posting to the WSOs to get the reply count up thus creating false interest in a post.

    This is no different than the stuff that "legitimate" internet marketers do with Yahoo Answers or social bookmarking, as far as I'm concerned. The sad fact is that these people are making money at it and they will continue.

    What's the answer? More regulations and rules? Banning IP address ranges? Flame the crap out of them? Don't knock it... it can be very therapeutic. It's like shooting rats at the dump.

    Just my two pence
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  • Profile picture of the author Sparhawke
    This is ome of the few things I hate with forums, you always end up with dead threads being bumped to the top of forums that no longer have any relevance.

    On my forums it is a serious warn from the mods to bump a thread after several days of inactivity without prior moderator acceptance. (If someone feels a topic has merit being bumped after this time they can petition an "official" bump)

    I know my rules and those of my fellow admins and moderators are harsh compared to other forums, but if it was left to continue you end up with a situation like the Warrior Forums, where posts that have no meaning keep killing important and worthwhile posts....

    Originally Posted by JustVisiting View Post

    Is it possible for admin to disable posting to threads over a certain age?
    No, if you put a cut-off point you end up killing the stickies and have to keep on reopening them unforetunately, this is a legacy problem with IPB and VRbullitn that we have been crying out for...often for years.

    Originally Posted by Gary Huynh View Post

    This is a pet peeve of mine and should be eliminated asap! Either lock posts older than a couple months or make them stand out more so that they're easier to spot.
    Difficult to do, without enforcement and locking with a PM to the worst offenders it will keep happening, but how do you rate a threads usefulness after a certain age?

    It may be on this forum that it is very valuable even after many months of inactivity...something more needs to be done :/
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    • Profile picture of the author David.M
      What the problem is?

      If after searching, I find a post that helps me out with something, but If I'm stuck on a small detail about it, why wouldn't I post a reply? Why start a new thread if one already exists?

      So i say again, What the problem is?
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      • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
        Originally Posted by Pat Jackson View Post

        There is absolutely nothing wrong with bumping an old thread to add something of value or to ask more specific questions about something that has been discussed throughout the thread.

        There is, however, a huge problem with people bumping really old threads for the purpose of quoting a random post from someone and responding to it with, "Yeah, me too!" or something as equally ridiculous.
        Good point, IF you're adding value or have a legitimate concern then bumping an old thread can be worthwhile.

        However, I know the thread Harvey was referring to, and it was a useless bump. A newbie responded to a "maybe tomorrow I'll do that" comment with a "go for it" comment of her own. Hardly needed after a year, but she probably didn't realize it was an old thread.

        Originally Posted by Jared Alberghini View Post

        To explain a bit more, many times you see an old thread that has been bumped, the person just so happens to have a product/link/service in their signature that is "the answer" to that particular topic... here's a perfect example from a while back... guess what this person who bumped all these Powerpoint related threads had in their sig... :rolleyes:
        Good point, Jared, and nice catch!
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  • Profile picture of the author reapr
    Ok we have people getting annoyed by old threads getting resurrected!

    Some of these same people are annoyed by people not searching for existing threads and suggest that these same people search for these existing threads first and post there!

    So to help new and existing warriors what would the OP suggest?

    I'm all ears ... woof!
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  • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
    I disagree, I think it's all in context. We should look at the context of bumping an old thread. For example, Paul Myers started an excellent thread titled "What To Do If You're Desperate". If someone found it via the SEs or using the WF search function and wanted to add something helpful, this wouldn't bother me in the least. I don't see this particular issue as black and white.

    RoD

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  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
    I have to agree with Rod here. It's not necessarily the fact that old threads are getting resurrected that automatically makes it an issue, it's why they're getting resurrected. If it's to add a valuable comment or to clarify something, I'm all for it. BUT we're getting a lot of people bumping old threads for selfish/devious reasons, the good thing about this is that we can see right through it and easily determine why the thread was bumped. There is no use in succumbing to paranoia and automatically getting suspicious of every old thread that is bumped, you have to do a little investigation before assuming things.
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  • Profile picture of the author lisag
    Originally Posted by Harvey.Segal View Post

    That's right.

    How annoying to get an email notification come through
    about a forum post with a vaguely familiar title and when
    you arrive you discover that someone has resurrected a
    thread that is a year old.
    It's only an old post to people who were here a year ago when it was made. For a newcomer, the topic could be as fresh as a mountain stream (used to be).

    In fact, it might be the very thing they were searching for an answer to, but they have a question they need to have clarified. What better place to do it?

    And aren't we often too quick to chastise someone who starts a new thread when there are plenty of old threads that address the issue at hand?

    Maybe the solution is for anyone who doesn't want to be dragged back in history to prune their thread subscription list now and again, and let old threads come back to life without disturbing those who no longer have an interest in the material.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tsnyder
    I don't understand. Other than the one liners posted
    for obvious reasons what is the problem with someone adding
    useful information to an old thread?

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  • Profile picture of the author BrianMcLeod
    The big problem with bumping old threads is that
    the words are no longer fresh.

    This is a problem not many people think about!

    Over time, the words eventually go stale and are
    no good any longer.

    That's why it's important to have fresh words in
    old threads - so the minerals and nutrients can
    be reactivated.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
      Originally Posted by BrianMcLeod View Post

      The big problem with bumping old threads is that
      the words are no longer fresh.

      This is a problem not many people think about!

      Over time, the words eventually go stale and are
      no good any longer.

      That's why it's important to have fresh words in
      old threads - so the minerals and nutrients can
      be reactivated.
      Wrong. With the number of people who have NOT seen that thread, especially newbs, there's no REAL way of knowing if ti's fresh or not. Just because it's not new to you does NOT mean it's not new to someone else. I'm astounded by the myopia in this forum sometimes. And I've been on this forum forum for a loooong time, even though I only registered 6 yrs. ago.....

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    • Profile picture of the author lisag
      Originally Posted by BrianMcLeod View Post

      The big problem with bumping old threads is that
      the words are no longer fresh.

      This is a problem not many people think about!

      Over time, the words eventually go stale and are
      no good any longer.

      That's why it's important to have fresh words in
      old threads - so the minerals and nutrients can
      be reactivated.
      Perhaps we can sell thread supplements to increase the nutritional value. As long as we don't claim that they actually cure anything, we can bypass FTC regs.
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  • Profile picture of the author Shoaib
    Originally Posted by Harvey.Segal View Post


    So you have been warned.
    That seems to be becoming the new, pouplar thing to say huh!
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  • Profile picture of the author bobsstuff
    What I HATE is reading one of these old resurected posts, responding to it as if it is a fresh thread and then realizing I have been suckered in again.

    These posters must be desparate to build post count.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
      Originally Posted by bobsstuff View Post

      What I HATE is reading one of these old resurected posts, responding to it as if it is a fresh thread and then realizing I have been suckered in again.

      These posters must be desparate to build post count.
      Again, ur looking at it from you perspective only. THere are a TON of people who have not seen the thread yet. This is why I say you should view the bump in context. There are a lot of people who come here via the SEs and others find it via a search.

      Look, if it's bumped and no one else responds to the thread then that's fine. The market will show up the supply and demand. For all of you who preach "just ignore" certain things but not others, I find this thread amusing. I never really care if an old thread gets bumped because I know the market forces of supply and demand will take care of it.

      Un-freaking-believable. Too many of you jump on the group think train.

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      • Profile picture of the author Kevin Riley
        Originally Posted by Rod Cortez View Post

        Again, ur looking at it from you perspective only. THere are a TON of people who have not seen the thread yet. This is why I say you should view the bump in context. There are a lot of people who come here via the SEs and others find it via a search.

        Look, if it's bumped and no one else responds to the thread then that's fine. The market will show up the supply and demand. For all of you who preach "just ignore" certain things but not others, I find this thread amusing. I never really care if an old thread gets bumped because I know the market forces of supply and demand will take care of it.

        Un-freaking-believable. Too many of you jump on the group think train.

        RoD
        I'm jumping on Rod's train!

        There is nothing wrong with resurrecting an old thread that had a great discussion or great info in it. There are some great threads here, and even for those of us who have seen them it can be worth a revisit a year down the road.
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        • Profile picture of the author Wakunahum
          It makes more sense to bump a thread than start a new one (assuming it's a legitimate post).

          No reasons to have 100's of threads that say the EXACT same thing.
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          • Profile picture of the author All Night Cafe
            Sometimes bumping on threads can be helpful with new
            info. Most all of the methods of generating traffic change
            so fast, that a renewal of an old post can spark new
            info.

            I will start looking at how old threads are. And only
            then will I decide if it should be reopened for new
            ideas.
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            • Profile picture of the author webdesk
              To a newbie, everything is a new thread! So, why not lock threads after they get so old? Why not archive them or delete them if they can not be referenced... if they are considered out of date.

              This is a massive forum. If you're not here often, you miss out on what's fresh and you go for the search. Old threads always turn up!

              There probably is no answer, just rules...

              However, the bad practice of bumping a thread is understandably against forum rules!
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            • Profile picture of the author Kitty Kiki
              For me, as of this very moment, bumping an old thread is much better than creating a new one.

              As I am a newbie, I will read old threads which provide values to me and they are many of them in WF.

              I have even bookmarked certain topics of which are interest and useful to me so that when I return any time, I can read it thoroughly. Some of them, I will be reading in 1-2 months later.

              If an old thread is of no value to you, it could be to someone.

              What is useless for you today could be beneficial for someone today itself. That is life and experience. If you have subscribed to the topic, then perhaps it is time for you to unsubscribe it.

              We only stick or subscribe to to something that will bring value to us.

              I feel and believe that your statement will induce fear among newbies. How would you really know if the old thread is resuscitated by a spammer?

              How if the person is not really a spammer?

              Unless, if it is only involving certain threads that has some promotional elements like WSO threads then it could be done by a spammer.

              Just my 2 cents.

              P.S: Pls don't get me wrong. I still respect you as a senior here. I just want to air my thoughts on this matter so that I would not feel guilty for myself.

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  • Profile picture of the author duncanb
    Sometimes those golden oldies are gems though!
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  • Profile picture of the author ravijayagopal
    I still get responses on old WSO's. Sure, it doesn't bump up my WSO, but it's great to know that people were looking for something, found my product, and have a question.

    I continue to make sales from old WSO's where the offer isn't even valid any more.

    Of course, the admins are there to moderate the spam. So we're not talking about "Great post" kinda spam.

    Otherwise, I think it adds tremendous value to old posts if someone genuinely has something to add to the thread.

    Doesn't bother me. Thank god for the "Unsubscribe from thread" feature - or worst case, the "Delete" button in my email :-)

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  • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
    I think the main problem here is Harvey's rather unique twisted sense of humor has gotten a lot of people again. (Did I really say gotten)!!

    You are so naughty Harvey

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    • Profile picture of the author BrianMcLeod
      Originally Posted by Kim Standerline View Post

      I think the main problem here is Harvey's rather unique twisted sense of humor has gotten a lot of people again.
      "Whooosh...."

      That's the sound of dry humor flying right overhead....

      Myself, I'm making a vow to add fresh adverbs into all
      old threads to help boost their antioxidant power.

      Best,

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      • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
        Yup it's very dry, knowing Harvey he's probably sat quietly smirking like mad knowing he's started off yet another quite contentious thread and got a lot of people's knickers in a twist.

        Originally Posted by BrianMcLeod View Post

        "Whooosh...."

        That's the sound of dry humor flying right overhead....

        Captain Myopia
        Guys there is nothing wrong with starting up old threads if you have something relevant and useful to add to them, the problem on the forum is when they are revived for absolutely no reason at all, (usually by spammers).

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  • Profile picture of the author Justin Says
    I'm only posting on this because you stated that I should not resurrect an old thread. How about a new one =D yay. Lol. I try my hardest, sometimes people just slip up though.

    Also what about programs that have been reviewed but haven't gotten comments recently. Sad to see them slide into the mist.
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  • Profile picture of the author ExpertWriter
    What is a forum for, if you can not go back to see if there is something you can learn from? You have every right to go through anything that is on here, and post where you want to. People learn and they are wanting to learn, if they are going back in time. I will tell you, I'm new here. I joined this month. I'm new to this whole Internet business.

    I stayed up one night, just clicking on page after page in this forum, so I could learn from the most experienced people on here! I'm sad that so many people are against having old threads on here. I believe they teach us (newbie's) how to get things done right.

    I have learned a great deal on here, and I'm very thankful for all the posts, and threads. You just never know when you will run into something that will help you grow.
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    • Profile picture of the author Killer Joe
      Originally Posted by ExpertWriter View Post

      You have every right to go through anything that is on here, and post where you want to.
      Actually, you don't have any rights at all in that regard. What you have been granted are privileges which are distinctly different than rights.

      That may sound like symantics, but it's not.

      Use your privileges wisely, they are a very valuable asset here.

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    • Profile picture of the author Sparhawke
      Originally Posted by ExpertWriter View Post

      What is a forum for, if you can not go back to see if there is something you can learn from? You have every right to go through anything that is on here, and post where you want to. People learn and they are wanting to learn, if they are going back in time. I will tell you, I'm new here. I joined this month. I'm new to this whole Internet business.

      I stayed up one night, just clicking on page after page in this forum, so I could learn from the most experienced people on here! I'm sad that so many people are against having old threads on here. I believe they teach us (newbie's) how to get things done right.

      I have learned a great deal on here, and I'm very thankful for all the posts, and threads. You just never know when you will run into something that will help you grow.
      It is true that there is a lot to read in old forums and old topics can still have relevance and I am not disputing that, but what good can come from relaxing the rules and effectively inviting people to bump threads that may not have been seen since the .com bubble?

      A line has to be drawn somewhere.
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  • Profile picture of the author ajaygolani
    Sometimes old posts are good source of knowledge, no one should neglect them as they can be important scenes of a big picture.
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  • Profile picture of the author whossh
    My apologies for disagreeing.., for most experienced warriors it may seem annoying, but for a newbie and others it maybe refreshing. It is said that
    we tend to forget things often so pls bear with us if our minds dont work
    like yours....
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  • Profile picture of the author Ken Leatherman
    Speaking of bumping old threads. Bump of a 24 Hour Thread.

    I admit that I have been caught more than once with an old thread, in fact last week there was one bumped from Aug 2008. There were more than 4 pages of postings, but I have to say it was a good read. It actually had some useful information.

    But then I began to see information that was no longer valid and I made a post disagreeing, not realizing it was a comment that was a year and half old. So perhaps my comment updated old information.

    Beside I have to agree with Kim that Harvey can throw in some sarcasm, that often goes over the head of many folks. Whoooooooooosh! Harvey did it again

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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Ames
    I can't wait until this thread is a year old. Guess what I'm going to do?
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    • Profile picture of the author Killer Joe
      Originally Posted by Scott Ames View Post

      I can't wait until this thread is a year old. Guess what I'm going to do?
      Thanks Scott, I'll be counting on it.

      (See post #27 )

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  • Profile picture of the author IMChick
    I find aged posts valuable, but spam comments to elevate post count drive me nuts.

    A good solution may be for admin to require a mutiple word count or multi sentence for someone with under 100 posts and X months of membership to reply before a post can be 'counted' in the contributer's posting totals. This can be linked to the minimum criteria to post a WSO, or to 'unlock' additional parts of the forum as the new member reaches milestones.

    If someone posts a 'great post, thanks' it can be reported by member and deleted, but it also won't count for a member's post total. The incentive to contribute would be higher, and it would eliminate the bottom feeding easy types of hit-and run spammers because if it counts for nothing, there's no point to it in their business model.
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  • Profile picture of the author bretski
    You all DO know that it is possible to unsubscribe to a thread also, right? If you click on the "User CP" in the upper left hand corner you can modify what threads you are subscribed to and how (or if) you are notified of updates to threads.

    Of course, this wasn't the point of this thread, I believe. I believe that the OP was saying that there were a lot of trolls bumping threads for reasons other than having something of value to add. As Jared (dude from VT that looks like Frank Zappa) had shown, there were people using this forum in a very self serving way to promote their sig by bumping a series of threads.

    So, if it's just a matter that you are annoyed by the instant email notifications from old threads that you have subscribed to, you can clean up your subscriptions. As far as dealing with trolls? That's a problem no matter where you go but I think the mods and members do a pretty good job of keeping most of the riff-raff out without micromanaging ever little thing.
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