Social Politeness Or Spamming Stupidity

by Steven Wagenheim 29 replies
TomG brought up an interesting subject and I'd like to really dive into it
because I think it's important. I'll try to make this as coherent as possible
after a day at the dentist, the electronics store and the local Subway
trying to somehow get down a 6 inch turkey without wondering how much
bicarb I'm going to have to chug after.

Let's try to simplify this.

John Doe makes a great post at the forum. Really shares some incredible
info.

Sally Simple is very shy, doesn't really know what to say but doesn't want
the post to go unnoticed so she makes a simple comment.

Nice post...thanks for sharing.

She truly doesn't know what to say. She doesn't really have a vast
knowledge of the subject so she can't really add anything to the
conversation other than to thank the poster.

Now, Bobby Blowhard also reads the post and makes a similar 5 word
comment along with a sig file that screams "Click me or I'll nuke your dog".

And he does this for every freakin post on the forum. It doesn't even
matter what the topic is. He's got his pat answer.

Nice post...thanks for sharing.

Over time, Sally does learn stuff and begins to contribute a little.

Bobby never does.

Here's the point.

You can't judge the reply to a post by the reply itself. You have to look
at it within the body of work of the poster. Heck, even I occasionally
post a few word comment to thank a poster. Granted, my posts of brevity
are as rare as a two bit hooker at a convent, but still, not all my posts
are works of art.

The bigger point is, give somebody the benefit of the doubt until they
prove that they're only here to spam the crap out of the place.

Some people are just shy.
#main internet marketing discussion forum #politeness #social #spamming #stupidity
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  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    Steven,
    this "Click me or I'll nuke your dog" brought to mind tha national Lampoon Cover from way back.Is that where you got the idea?
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    • Profile picture of the author traceye
      Nice post...thanks for sharing

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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Originally Posted by KimW View Post

      Steven,
      this "Click me or I'll nuke your dog" brought to mind tha national Lampoon Cover from way back.Is that where you got the idea?
      Actually, I made it up on the spot, but being a one time National Lampoon
      freak (What, me worry?) I wouldn't be surprised if it was brought on by
      something in my subconscious.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
    Damn you, Traceye, I found myself unable to resist clicking your link!

    I agree, Steve, some people on here get all crabby about completely harmless stuff. Oh well. Sucks to be them.
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    • Profile picture of the author tommygadget
      Originally Posted by Dana_W View Post

      I agree, Steve, some people on here get all crabby about completely harmless stuff. Oh well. Sucks to be them.
      Hey, I'm not crabby, I'm lovable *hugs*

      TomG.
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    • Profile picture of the author write-stuff
      Originally Posted by Dana_W View Post

      Damn you, Traceye, I found myself unable to resist clicking your link!
      Hehehe... Me, too. I had to click it. Nice looking page and a nice change from the traditional format.
      - Russ
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      • Profile picture of the author Ken Leatherman
        Originally Posted by write-stuff View Post

        Hehehe... Me, too. I had to click it. Nice looking page and a nice change from the traditional format.
        - Russ
        Russ you and Dana did me in, I had to go back and click Traceye's link.

        Traceye Good sig headline.

        Steve,

        Thank you for the opportunity to blast my signature out to everybody that reads every post you submit. Your not a spammer but a heck of a good advertiser for my business.

        As that one guy N/A'd last week said "click my link or I'll nuke your computer" "Steve is like trying to eat one Krispy Kreame Donught."
        Steve he said that I didn't. :p

        The benefit of the doubt can mean a world of difference for anyone just starting out or just being polite, especially on this forum. It doesn't take long for the "Spammer" to reveal his/her true colors.

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    • Profile picture of the author Jose Delgado
      Wow! Who is the lady above me?!!!

      I LIKE your new picture Dana! :rolleyes:

      This is why I love the Warrior Forum! Too many ladies here.


      PS. Oh yeah!... nice post Steven.

      EDIT: Just so you guys know, Since Dana's post isn't above mines anymore, I was referring to her! Not Russ!
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  • Profile picture of the author Monetize
    Thanks posts clog up forums, plus they inflate post counts,
    which is probably why we received the thanks button.
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  • Profile picture of the author tommygadget
    Steven,

    You are one of the few people who takes my one paragraph statement and simplifies it with a page of text Yes, the cut and paste guys are the ones I'm targeting, not the genuine newbie. I also posted a clarification where I specifically said that after posting results I was getting replies from people who were looking forward to the results. Yikes! Anyway, thanks for sharing.

    TomG.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
    Why thank you Jose! You are too sweet. Too bad you live with penguins and polar bears, so unless you travel south I am unlikely to ever meet you in person.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    I didn't realize you could take such a small issue and turn it into something that needed clarifying. Do people really over analyze this stuff to such an extent that they'll judge people from a short 'thanks for your words' reply?

    It never occurred to me to make so much out of it.
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  • Profile picture of the author tommygadget
    Oh, and the later it gets, the more we take issue with everything until we explode in a fit of anal-retentiveness. At least Steven can say the dentist's gas made him do it...

    TomG.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Molano
    Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

    TomG brought up an interesting subject and I'd like to really dive into it
    because I think it's important. I'll try to make this as coherent as possible
    after a day at the dentist, the electronics store and the local Subway
    trying to somehow get down a 6 inch turkey without wondering how much
    bicarb I'm going to have to chug after.

    Let's try to simplify this.

    John Doe makes a great post at the forum. Really shares some incredible
    info.

    Sally Simple is very shy, doesn't really know what to say but doesn't want
    the post to go unnoticed so she makes a simple comment.

    Nice post...thanks for sharing.

    She truly doesn't know what to say. She doesn't really have a vast
    knowledge of the subject so she can't really add anything to the
    conversation other than to thank the poster.

    Now, Bobby Blowhard also reads the post and makes a similar 5 word
    comment along with a sig file that screams "Click me or I'll nuke your dog".

    And he does this for every freakin post on the forum. It doesn't even
    matter what the topic is. He's got his pat answer.

    Nice post...thanks for sharing.

    Over time, Sally does learn stuff and begins to contribute a little.

    Bobby never does.

    Here's the point.

    You can't judge the reply to a post by the reply itself. You have to look
    at it within the body of work of the poster. Heck, even I occasionally
    post a few word comment to thank a poster. Granted, my posts of brevity
    are as rare as a two bit hooker at a convent, but still, not all my posts
    are works of art.

    The bigger point is, give somebody the benefit of the doubt until they
    prove that they're only here to spam the crap out of the place.

    Some people are just shy.
    Good post Steven, always give someone the benefit of the doubt. You can't always judge a book by its cover (This goes both ways, positively and negatively.)
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    lol
    I know you'll start to notice overtime who are just the pure spammers and who are just starting to learn. Also what if someone else has already said what you wanted to say already?
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin Riley
      Nice post ... thanks for sharing.

      If you don't click my sig link your computer will self destruct in 10, 9, 8, 7, 6 .....
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      • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
        Originally Posted by Kevin Riley View Post

        Nice post ... thanks for sharing.

        If you don't click my sig link your computer will self destruct in 10, 9, 8, 7, 6 .....
        I am on my backup PC now Kevin. Thanks so much. You'll receive my
        bill in the mail.

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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Buckley
      Originally Posted by BIG Mike View Post

      I think it's a good reminder to everyone that sometimes a one line, "Thanks for sharing post" is just that and nothing more. We get so hung up on automatically assuming that it's someone trying to build up a post count that we think they are up to something.

      I knew someone like that, LOL.
      LOL! Just to demonstrate how easily amused I am, I got a chuckle realizing that I've been a forum member a 3 months longer than you have and have only a tenth of your post count

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  • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
    What I hate is when people chime in and post a completely irrelavent comment. For instance, this morning I saw a post in an article marketing challenge thread that basically said - no thanks, I'm doing something better.

    THEN WHY MAKE THE POST IN THE FIRST PLACE??????

    ARGH! Anyhow, you can pretty much pick out the Simples from the Blowhards.

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    • Profile picture of the author Neil Morgan
      Maybe we should have a 'National No Signature Day' when signatures are banned.

      It would be interesting to see how that changed the mood of the WF.

      Or maybe it would just be deserted for the day

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  • Profile picture of the author rapidscc
    Maybe a better idea is to have a bracket before we or new guys can place a sig.

    There are some forums where you have to post 15 times before you get benefits..

    In our case if we really are that particular about spamming by first time users maybe we could implement a policy for sig placements.

    Anyway only experienced forumers will have sig on their first post. So maybe then we could get a hint who will be spamming and who would be here to learn...

    Just my .0000000001

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    Thanks for post...nice sharing.
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      Post good. Sharing thx.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        THEN WHY MAKE THE POST IN THE FIRST PLACE??????
        That's the key right there.

        Those who are honestly saying "thank you" or trying to participate don't make 30 quick "thanks" and post a WSO - nor do they start advertising they are doing well and tell you to check out their signature.

        Doesn't take long to sort out the spammers.

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  • Profile picture of the author athena08
    Good point made about some people being shy and everything in life should be taken with consideration for the context. Some are too uptight and do themselves and others no good.

    The forum is a community and yes spammers will always hover around but I agree with you Steven that it's kinder to give someone the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise.

    Regards,
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  • Profile picture of the author jedz
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    Shall I say, Im guilty about this thread Steven? lol

    I don't know the motive of anyone but me, I really enjoy the stuffs here in Warriors.
    This community helps a lot especially in marketing techniques. The different advises of the members give lesson and new knowledge to everyone.

    I'm proud to be a Warrior and bugger off spammers!!
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  • Profile picture of the author MizzCindy
    The thank you button is a wonderful addition to the forum, but I like leaving comments of appreciation (even short ones). I think it does a poster good to know s/he has offered valuable information that actually helped someone.

    Cindy (Formerly Shy Warrior)

    P.S. I was going to say ' Nice post...thanks for sharing.', to really exploit my sig, then I remembered I don't yet have anything listed there to exploit...
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