7 Habits of Highly Defective Posters

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... with apologies to Scott Adams and Stephen Covey.

Think of this as a course on how to bin friends and influence moderators. Feel free to add your own creative comments.

Tell me a story, Mommy!: "Honest, Officer, I wasn't even there. It was the guy next to me!"

Look, if you're going to lie, keep it simple and believable. Don't try to be clever. Every time you do that, you're repeating the same "creative story" some dozen or so other morons have told us before. You would be truly amazed at how often this stuff repeats. It's like a steady diet of bad burritos.

How exactly do people think it helps to have a moderator catch them in an outright fabrication? Maybe they should catalog their BS, so they don't contradict themselves every time they open their mouths...

Dear Liary,

Today I told Paul that the fake screen shots I used as income proof in my WSO were the fault of the outsourcer that did my sales copy. I think he believed it. Maybe I can get him to JV with me!
That happened, by the way...

Yeah. Really.

Deep Post: Don't suck up to the moderators. It just makes us suspicious. We know what you're after, and we're just waiting for you to make your move so we can slap you stupider.

Play with Dolls: "Sock puppets, trolls and shills, Oh MY!" No, Dorothy, you're not in Kansas anymore, no matter what your IP address says.

Fake accounts created to shill products, avoid the consequences of abusive posting, or just argue without having to deal with the backlash that comes with being stoopid. Even with proxies, these people leave trails and evidence. Anyone who's clever enough to do this effectively isn't so clueless that they need to bother.

Interestingly, the worst of these have unconscious habits of word choice and typing patterns that are unique (and invisible) to them. They're like ID badges to the rest of the world, though. "Hey! Over here in the mask. It's me. I'm Jim!"

If they only had a brain...

Karma Chameleon: Also called "The Reincarnation of Peter Proud," this trick is as bad as the movie and the song. In the same soundtrack.

These are the single most inane group of the bunch. They get run off, and they come back with new names and identities, thinking they can start all over with whatever it was that got them nuked in the first place. And when you catch them, they act like their new profile and IP address are a "Get out of hell free" card or something.

Some people's kids, eh?

A ban isn't on your account. It's on you, personally. If it's permanent, that does not mean you get to pretend to be someone else and come back with a clean slate. I don't care if you call yourself Lazarus Long, Woodrow Wilson Smith, or H.R. Puffnstuff.

The Resurrection: Whenever I see this one, I hear a Randy Travis lyric run through my head... "Diggin' up bones, I'm diggin' up bones, Exhuming things that's better left alone."

This is mostly a trick of link-spammers. They seem to think that commenting on old posts is a good way to add their sig file links without being noticed. They don't understand that, the way vBulletin works, they're screaming "Smuck alert!" when the ancient thread shows up on the front page after a 3-year hiatus.

"Stupid, stupid rat creatures."

Mightus Wellby, MD (JD, PhD, DVM and DNRC): If you are not a doctor, lawyer or Indian Chief, don't play one on the Internet. It just causes problems for people who don't understand that people in regulated professions don't give professional advice in online forums.

This also includes forum lawyers, those annoying trolls who seem to think that moderators are constrained to a literal interpretation of what's written, only what's written, and how the trolls interpret what's written.

Sorry. Thanks for playing.

Oh, and that whole "First Amendment, free speech" thing? You may want to talk to someone who actually earned passing marks in 8th grade civics before you make a fool of yourself publicly. Or read it for yourself, paying special attention to the first 5 words...
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
We ain't Congress, bay-bay. And online, that's just a local ordinance anyway.

Stealth Bummer: "Look, Ma. They like me. They really like me. I'm going to run a WSO!"

Yet another in the long series of boring re-runs churned out by people who think they're clever and original. You come up with a burner of a thread title, hint at wildly profitable new techniques, create discussion, and then...

"Wow. This thread is so popular that I've decided to detail the whole method and offer it for cheap as a WSO. Just to help my fellow Warriors!"
How touching.

Look. I like good schlock as much as anyone. I'm a big fan of "Andromeda," "Batman" and "The Rocky Horror Picture Show," after all. But if you're going to do a bad copy of an outdated comedy, maybe it should be "Get Smart" instead of "Rank and Stinky?"

The Internet: 10 million channels, and nothing new to watch.


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  • Profile picture of the author Ron Douglas
    First :p

    No seriously though, I can see how moderating a forum full of Internet Marketers is probably the most difficult type of forum to moderate.

    You really broke it down and made it fun to read at the same time.
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Ron,
      No seriously though, I can see how moderating a forum full of Internet Marketers is probably the most difficult type of forum to moderate.
      Nope. They're all the same. We had nearly identical challenges back in the Fidonet daze, on the non-sports trading card echo.

      Only the names have been changed, to protect the idiots...


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      • Profile picture of the author Ron Douglas
        Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

        Ron,Nope. They're all the same.

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        I don't know man, don't have the same kind of problems on my cooking, diet, or self publishing forum.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
        Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

        Originally Posted by Ron Douglas View Post

        No seriously though, I can see how moderating a forum full of Internet Marketers is probably the most difficult type of forum to moderate.
        Ron,Nope. They're all the same. We had nearly identical challenges back in the Fidonet daze, on the non-sports trading card echo.
        Paul's right. You get a number of people in any forum and the bottom feeders start coming out of the woodwork.

        People also don't seem to realize that webmasters and moderators don't just live in their own little corner of the web. We get out too. For example, if you do some work for someone and get paid the agreed-upon price, and then basically trash that person on your blog because the pay wasn't enough, you might not want to then turn around and ask that same person for more work at that same agreed-upon price. Just saying...
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        • Profile picture of the author Ken Strong
          Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

          Paul's right. You get a number of people in any forum and the bottom feeders start coming out of the woodwork.
          Then there's the people who mix their metaphors... can't we ban them too?
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          • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
            Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

            Fortunately, misunderstood victims can be reformed.
            Only if they finally realize that it's not everyone else, it is them! Otherwise, there's no hope for them and you don't invite them to stuff.

            Originally Posted by KenStrong View Post

            Then there's the people who mix their metaphors... can't we ban them too?
            "Time and tide melt the snowman."
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    • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
      Originally Posted by Ron Douglas View Post

      First :p

      No seriously though, I can see how moderating a forum full of Internet Marketers is probably the most difficult type of forum to moderate.

      You really broke it down and made it fun to read at the same time.

      Try moderating a forum of 100K+ hardcore, rightwing political activist firearm owners who all think Glenn Beck is the messiah and hand out free tinfoil at their get-togethers.

      Paul has it easy IMHO.
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      • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
        Michael,
        Try moderating a forum of 100K+ hardcore, rightwing political activist firearm owners who all think Glenn Beck is the messiah and hand out free tinfoil at their get-togethers.
        Which brings to mind another type: The One-Upsman.

        Gotta give you that one, Michael. There are some groups I wouldn't knowingly expose my browser to, much less try to moderate.


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        • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
          Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

          Michael,Which brings to mind another type: The One-Upsman.

          Gotta give you that one, Michael. There are some groups I wouldn't knowingly expose my browser to, much less try to moderate.


          Paul
          Trust me, there's no glory in one-upsmanship in that one.

          I ran screaming from the building. You think trying to inject some rational thought processes and balance is difficult here... lol dear lord in heaven let me tell you....

          "WHAT DO YOU MEAN NOT ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERRISTS AND WE SHOULDN'T KILL EM ALL?!?!? YER A MOONBAT LIBERAL HIPPY GO SMOKE WEED BACK IN YOUR COMMUNE!!"

          "Tone down or I'll give you a 2 weeks trip to the penalty box."

          "YOU HATE THE 1ST AMENDMENT YOU GOVERNMENT PLANT CO-CONSPIRATOR YOU'RE THE ENEMY OF THIS NATION AND SHOULD BE DEPORTED LIKE THE MESSICANS!!"

          If you're ever up for it though, I can introduce you to the gang. lol
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          • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
            Originally Posted by MichaelHiles View Post

            Trust me, there's no glory in one-upsmanship in that one.

            I ran screaming from the building. You think trying to inject some rational thought processes and balance is difficult here... lol dear lord in heaven let me tell you....

            "WHAT DO YOU MEAN NOT ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERRISTS AND WE SHOULDN'T KILL EM ALL?!?!? YER A MOONBAT LIBERAL HIPPY GO SMOKE WEED BACK IN YOUR COMMUNE!!"

            "Tone down or I'll give you a 2 weeks trip to the penalty box."

            "YOU HATE THE 1ST AMENDMENT YOU GOVERNMENT PLANT CO-CONSPIRATOR YOU'RE THE ENEMY OF THIS NATION AND SHOULD BE DEPORTED LIKE THE MESSICANS!!"
            Sounds like some people I knew of back in the TSO days...
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            • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
              Michael,
              Trust me, there's no glory in one-upsmanship in that one.
              That was a joke, dude.

              I assure you, I am more familiar with the extremes on all ends of the political spectrum than I would like to be. I have little tolerance for any of them, as the folks who frequent OT will attest.

              They do make for an interesting addition to the list...


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          • Profile picture of the author genietoast
            Originally Posted by MichaelHiles View Post

            Trust me, there's no glory in one-upsmanship in that one.

            I ran screaming from the building. You think trying to inject some rational thought processes and balance is difficult here... lol dear lord in heaven let me tell you....

            "WHAT DO YOU MEAN NOT ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERRISTS AND WE SHOULDN'T KILL EM ALL?!?!? YER A MOONBAT LIBERAL HIPPY GO SMOKE WEED BACK IN YOUR COMMUNE!!"

            "Tone down or I'll give you a 2 weeks trip to the penalty box."

            "YOU HATE THE 1ST AMENDMENT YOU GOVERNMENT PLANT CO-CONSPIRATOR YOU'RE THE ENEMY OF THIS NATION AND SHOULD BE DEPORTED LIKE THE MESSICANS!!"

            If you're ever up for it though, I can introduce you to the gang. lol

            Goobers! I thought the religion section of Yahoo Answers was bad.

            Eeeegaad!
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        • Profile picture of the author Paul Buckley
          Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

          Michael,Which brings to mind another type: The One-Upsman.

          Gotta give you that one, Michael. There are some groups I wouldn't knowingly expose my browser to, much less try to moderate.


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          I think Michael must be moderating one of my old-fart-Marine forums
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    Hehe - what about the drive-by heroes?

    You know - those people that have made some money and stopped coming here "because it's a waste of time", but then remember when it's time for a product launch and stop by to randomly talk about something that happens to relate to their launch.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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    Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post


    Deep Post: Don't suck up to the moderators. It just makes us suspicious. We know what you're after, and we're just waiting for you to make your move so we can slap you stupider.


    Paul

    Great post...

    You are not only a handsome man but have a great selection of hats.

    DOWN WITH AWEBER!
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    Those who ask for opinions, but really want justification for something underhanded. And then go on to argue with everybody who even barley disagrees with the answer they wanted to hear.

    Or, those who start a post to share their own opinions, or "facts" and then tell people with differing viewpoints to shut up.

    I started this thread to share something good. If you don't like it, then keep your thoughts to yourself.
    If you don't understand the meaning of "forum" then you shouldn't be allowed to post in one.



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  • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
    Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

    Think of this as a course on how to bin friends and influence moderators. Feel free to add your own creative comments.
    I'm still trying to figure this first line out...

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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Bill,
      I'm still trying to figure this first line out...
      Stephen Covey did a book called "The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People." Scott Adams did a Dilbert book with a title that took off on it, called "7 Years of Highly Defective People."

      It's an eclectic set of references...


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      • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
        I got that part, Paul, I'm just trying to figure out how to "bin" a friend.

        I'm mean I've bin friends with people, I just don't think I binned any of them yet.

        ~Bill

        (ok, I'm through...runs and hides...)
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        • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
          Bill,
          I got that part, Paul, I'm just trying to figure out how to "bin" a friend.
          Bin is, IIRC, British slang for "tossed in the trash bin."

          Have I told you today that you're a smartass, Bill?


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          • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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            Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

            Bill,Bin is, IIRC, British slang for "tossed in the trash bin."

            Have I told you today that you're a smartass, Bill?


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            He is a smartass everyday, Paul.

            BTW, great shirt you got on. Is it new?
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      • Profile picture of the author BrianMcLeod
        Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

        It's an eclectic set of references...
        An electric pet of deferences?

        Fun post, Paul.
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    Buy It Now friends? Aren't those called "escorts" in the real world?
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    • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
      Buy It Now friends?
      I can see it now...no more renting signatures for the creative. They'll friend you for a fee, instead.

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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Originally Posted by Zeus66 View Post

      Buy It Now friends? Aren't those called "escorts" in the real world?
      Some of them. And the guys who have to pay are called "John."


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  • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
    All you WF folks will listen to me. I'm the expert. I need to position myself as the expert. So I'm going to take a strong stand on some issue, make a post about it... and then stick with it no matter what ("that's my story and I'm sticking to it").

    I don't care if every well-respected member of the forum and every expert tells me I'm wrong. I am right. I NEED to be right. Because if I'm not right, how the hell do I position myself as the expert? Who the hell will buy my WSO?

    Eventually I'm going to see I'm outnumbered. If I'm not totally clueless, I may even realize that my position is... wrong. But I'll never admit it. NEVER!

    Instead, I'll shoot down the messengers. I'll attack them personally. I'll say nasty things about their mothers.

    The thread will go down in a big ball of flames... and get nuked.

    And thank goodness, because then all the evidence is gone.

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    Becky "I'm right and the rest of you can kick rocks" Hagel
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Becky,
      I don't care if every well-respected member of the forum and every expert tells me I'm wrong. I am right. I NEED to be right. Because if I'm not right, how the hell do I position myself as the expert? Who the hell will buy my WSO?
      [chuckle] Thomas will. The Magic Cueball always says Yes.


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      • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
        The Misunderstood Victim

        This is the guy who says just about everything wrong imaginable and
        then when it's pointed out what an ass he is, he plays the victim card.

        He's just so misunderstood.

        I am speaking from experience on this one folks...trust me on that.

        Fortunately, misunderstood victims can be reformed.

        Paul, thanks for a very entertaining post.

        And no...I'm not sucking up.

        You're just so damn fun to read...sometimes.

        When you're not telling me what a dingus I am.
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  • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
    Flippin' 'eck Paul - whatever you're on today, I want some.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kelly Verge
    The Stealth Bummer usually has me holding my breath, waiting for the inevitable WSO. Thankfully I can hold my breath much longer than they can wait.
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  • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
    We're missing something here... oh yeah...

    CANTANKEROUS CYNIC GODERATOR

    The grendel with PTSD who gets stuck on the front line in the forum general discussion forum. Was once a generally happy-go-lucky sort of chap until he thought he'd make friends and garner influence by agreeing to to do the dirty work of the forum owner... err... thought he was getting some sort of pat on the back by being offered the opportunity to babysit and change diapers... errr.... bring balance and friendly exchange to the forum. Can't retire because nobody else is gullible enough to step to the plate. See them in their tiny office that was converted from the last stall of the staff bathroom. Asked by technical forum moderators to go make coffee.



    (see, I truly do feel your pain... only after years of therapy and plenty of fingerpaint have I been able to recover from the trauma)
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Michael,
      (see, I truly do feel your pain... only after years of therapy and plenty of fingerpaint have I been able to recover from the trauma)
      They won't let me have fingerpaints. The images are too disturbing...

      I can tell you, I would not even consider doing this solo here again. Having a mittfull of mods makes it possible to, for example, take a few weeks off from it and remember what the real world is like.

      Definitely have to work the mods into that list, though. We are, by definition, highly defective people.


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      • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
        Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

        We are, by definition, highly defective people.
        Never, ever, ever make a moderator of someone who actually wants the job. There is no less-qualified candidate on the planet.

        The job of moderating a forum of any sort should be undertaken with a heavy sigh and the distinct air of martyrdom. Ave, Caesar, te morituri salutamus. There is no glory in it, there is no gratitude, and basically you're volunteering to do thankless work forever while people hate you for no good reason.
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          Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

          Some of them. And the guys who have to pay are called "John."


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          Geez, can't a guy have any secrets?

          Seriously, both you and Caliban (see below) sound suspiciously like the previously mentioned W. W. Smith...

          "Never drink to excess. It can cause you to shoot at tax collectors - and miss."

          Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

          Never, ever, ever make a moderator of someone who actually wants the job. There is no less-qualified candidate on the planet.

          The job of moderating a forum of any sort should be undertaken with a heavy sigh and the distinct air of martyrdom. Ave, Caesar, te morituri salutamus. There is no glory in it, there is no gratitude, and basically you're volunteering to do thankless work forever while people hate you for no good reason.
          Which brings us to...

          WhyMe Coyote

          This upstart with delusions of adequacy and raging paranoia demands to know why his post or thread got nuked. He distinguishes himself from the constructively curious by becoming enraged that he can't do or say anything he likes -- after all, he's different than all the other spammers, scammers and slammers who get threads nuked within minutes of starting. The truly evolved members of this species will show up imitating Karma Chameleons, but give themselves away by their high-pitched petulant whining.
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            Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post


            The job of moderating a forum of any sort should be undertaken with a heavy sigh and the distinct air of martyrdom. Ave, Caesar, te morituri salutamus. There is no glory in it, there is no gratitude, and basically you're volunteering to do thankless work forever while people hate you for no good reason.
            Might as well run for Prime minister . Same hours, same conditions, same treatment...just slightly higher paid.
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            • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
              I have just been reminded of another one. Tommy Tunnelvision. This strange creature believes that moderators know only what happens within the confines of the forum. They forget that we all have businesses of our own which take us outside occasionally. And that, by the nature of the task of moderating, we know a lot of people.

              People who tell us things.

              These folks allow themselves to indulge the fantasy that they can use a forum thread as part of a smear campaign, or other game, and that we'll never find out or do anything about it. And that there's zero chance of getting caught in the lie.

              Peek-a-boo-oooo!


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              • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
                Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

                I have just been reminded of another one. Tommy Tunnelvision. This strange creature believes that moderators know only what happens within the confines of the forum.
                Ooh, ooh... you know what I love about these?

                When I'm moderating the forum where they're causing trouble, and they take me into their confidence on another forum about what they're doing - to see if I'd like to help!
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                • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
                  Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

                  Ooh, ooh... you know what I love about these?

                  When I'm moderating the forum where they're causing trouble, and they take me into their confidence on another forum about what they're doing - to see if I'd like to help!
                  That's it! I'm telling everybody on the OT YOU'RE the snitch! :p

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                • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
                  Caliban,
                  When I'm moderating the forum where they're causing trouble, and they take me into their confidence on another forum about what they're doing - to see if I'd like to help!
                  I don't get that one, since this is the only sandbox I play in that I don't own.

                  Thing is, I know a lot of people. More from outside this forum than from here. And most of them know that I consider it Bad Mojo to screw with my friends when they haven't earned it. And I have a really long memory for that...

                  Somebody made a mistake today that will, at some point, become expensive.


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                  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
                    Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

                    Caliban,I don't get that one, since this is the only sandbox I play in that I don't own.
                    Since I play in a lot of sandboxes, often for years at a time, I frequently end up temporarily in charge of things whether I want to be or not. (I once had to moderate a poetry mailing list for two months.) But like I said, you have to be at least a little bit crazy to actually want the job, so priority number one when I'm in charge of those things is to find my replacement and GTFO.

                    But it seems like the times I get dinged for that job all tend to happen when:

                    - A new rule is proposed over some personal vendetta of the admin
                    - I protest the new rule because it will inspire community backlash
                    - The rule is implemented anyway and OMFG, community backlash

                    So when I go from very vocal and active to virtually silent because I'm busy moderating, the people behind the backlash think I left the site over the rule change, and try to recruit me for mischief.

                    Which is rather convenient, really.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
                      Caliban,
                      Since I play in a lot of sandboxes
                      I should have said "web-based" sandboxes. I'm in plenty of others, but they're not public venues.

                      Yeah. I can see where that could be... amusing.


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                      • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
                        Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

                        Caliban,I should have said "web-based" sandboxes. I'm in plenty of others, but they're not public venues.
                        I was on The Admin Zone's "new forum" squad for a few years. Every month, a dozen or so forums would be listed, and the squad would go join them and make a bunch of posts. This made the forum feel active, because it was, and a month of that was usually enough to bootstrap the forum into having its own active user base.

                        And then I had a dispute with one of the mods at TAZ, so they banned me. Years of contribution to the forum, but someone in charge gets a hare up their arse and it's out the door forever. :rolleyes:
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                        • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
                          Caliban,
                          And then I had a dispute with one of the mods at TAZ, so they banned me. Years of contribution to the forum, but someone in charge gets a hare up their arse and it's out the door forever. :rolleyes:
                          Ya know, sometimes it's not that you have a dispute, but how you have the dispute.

                          Just sayin'.


                          Paul

                          PS: Did you mean to spell that 'hare?'
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                          • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
                            Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

                            PS: Did you mean to spell that 'hare?'
                            Of course - having a hair up your arse isn't abnormal at all. It's having a hare up it that makes you behave strangely.
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                            "The Golden Town is the Golden Town no longer. They have sold their pillars for brass and their temples for money, they have made coins out of their golden doors. It is become a dark town full of trouble, there is no ease in its streets, beauty has left it and the old songs are gone." - Lord Dunsany, The Messengers
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                    • Profile picture of the author Zabrina
                      Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

                      - A new rule is proposed over some personal vendetta of the admin
                      - I protest the new rule because it will inspire community backlash
                      - The rule is implemented anyway and OMFG, community backlash
                      My sympathies... that's never easy. Been there too. But personally, at the first sign of personal vendetta time, I draw my line in the sand. If the admin crosses it, I get out of the sandbox and I go to build my own.
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              • Profile picture of the author Jeannie Crabtree
                SHOUT UM DOWN

                People who come in with caps blazing when they don't agree, or want to be the authority, saying everyone else does not know what they are talking about, so listen to them.

                Dissing and shouting, reminds me of the gunslinger days... Okay people I am taking over the thread now, caus no one knows what they are talking about.

                Last time I saw this on the forum, I didn't know whether to be irritated or to laugh. I found that laughing made it more bearable. Truth is sometimes different from person to person, so why shout why your truth is better?

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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    WOW, I saw a lot of ways this could go, and even planned to say "I'll tell Stephen Covey on you!". Alas, you even stole my thunder there. 8-(

    HOPEFULLY you realize that it IS possible for truly unique members to maybe be eventually assigned the same IP numbers.

    Steve
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Steve,
      WOW, I saw a lot of ways this could go, and even planned to say "I'll tell Stephen Covey on you!". Alas, you even stole my thunder there. 8-(
      Nyah nyah nyah!

      (Disturbing images be damned. Who moved my crayons?!)
      HOPEFULLY you realize that it IS possible for truly unique members to maybe be eventually assigned the same IP numbers.
      Humor, dude. Get with the concept!


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      • Profile picture of the author Justin Jordan
        I'm not going to lie, I am in awe of anyone who can work references to The Reincarnation of Peter Proud, Randy Travis and freaking Bone into one post.
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        • Profile picture of the author Crew Chief
          The Dumb Blinde

          They enter into the forum engaging in Spam right from the onset.

          Their signature reeks of SPAM with links directly pointing to the irresistible unbelievable product(s) they are attempting to hawk. Products like, "How to instantly Make Money With Adsense"

          They start rapidly building their post count with generic statements convinced no one will see through master plan. All the while not realizing they are looking real unintelligent because all of their posts and threads say the exact same thing, Absolutely NOTHING!

          Their posts read like the who's who of the Dumb Blinde Fraternity

          How could this be SPAM?
          I'm glad I red this post!
          How did you do that?
          I'm going to try that two!
          This forum has rules?
          Why did my Squidoo account get deleted?
          I'm sorry you went thorough that
          The Warrior Forum is really a kool place
          Don't give up
          I don't think that is Spam
          Maybe you should try it the other way...
          How can you expect a person to know all the forum rules?
          Why can't I put my affiliate link in my post, it's my post?
          I agree with you on that point
          You're entitled to your opinion but I don't see how nine, ten or twelve posts in a row is Spam
          Why was my EZA account banned?
          Do you think Internet Marketing is changing?
          How could I know that was Spam?
          What forum rules?
          Isn't the WF made for affiliate marketers?
          What is SPAM?
          Who is Allen Says?

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          • Profile picture of the author sanssecret
            Personally Paul, I think you should be banned from posting here in the WF.

            Your posts are just way too thought provoking and they serve no purpose other than to distract me from getting on with the more serious side of spamming and black hat marketing.

            Or maybe that's your true purpose in posting this?
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        • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
          Justin,
          I'm not going to lie, I am in awe of anyone who can work references to The Reincarnation of Peter Proud, Randy Travis and freaking Bone into one post.
          You recognized the Bone reference?

          You are my hero.


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          • Profile picture of the author Justin Jordan
            Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

            Justin,You recognized the Bone reference?

            You are my hero.


            Paul
            I love that comic. I actually bought my collection off Jeff Smith at SPX, which was pretty awesome. I don't geek out much, but that was pretty close.
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      • Profile picture of the author Steve Peters Benn
        in terms of IP issues -
        Yeah, we have that issue at our office it isn't usually a problem - me and Eddie use different computers, different browsers and have a different posting style, but really, a lot of the time, there are people who play silly forum games with IP stuff. For some reason they get it into their heads that they can create fake shills for their products, supporters, hypers - whatever.

        Sadly (or goodly I guess) it is really easy to spot most of these type of characters.
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      HOPEFULLY you realize that it IS possible for truly unique members to maybe be eventually assigned the same IP numbers.
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      • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
        Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

        OMG AND SHE WAS STILL USING IPv4
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  • Profile picture of the author Sparhawke
    Interestingly, the worst of these have unconscious habits of word choice and typing patterns that are unique (and invisible) to them. They're like ID badges to the rest of the world, though. "Hey! Over here in the mask. It's me. I'm Jim!"

    If they only had a brain...
    I am well aware of my predilection of using this "..." in every post I ever make, it has been noted on one of the main forums I go to and they all know me by this for over 15 years, but since I am a moderator there anyway and one of the vilest of communist overlords there is not much they can do about it :p

    I agree with your post, people have typing patterns just as unique as a blood spattered fingerprint so I am confused as to why people think we cannot notice them, or at least have a suspicion enough to investigate the ip further and see where it resoves to :p
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    While I would never suck up to a Mod, I must say this is one of the most insightful posts I have seen in a long time!
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    Who is Allen Says?
    Yeah... who IS Allen Says?, and who says Allen Says is really who he says he is?
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  • Profile picture of the author Zabrina
    This was hilarious, thank you. Having run a forum full of angsty teens, I feel no inclination to repeat the tortur-- er, experience, but I take my hat off to those brave enough. Well, I'm not wearing a hat, so I'll salute.

    I did have one major problem with this post, however.

    I object to Andromeda being referenced as shlock. Then again, I'm the one who'll get physically attacked by Star Trek fans for saying Andromeda was better than Star Trek. Note to others: don't say this at opening night of the new Star Trek movie.
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    I realize I'm the last one to the party... but you will definitely enjoy this:

    Flame Warriors Home
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  • Profile picture of the author AllAboutAction
    Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

    Think of this as a course on how to bin friends and influence moderators. Feel free to add your own creative comments.
    I thought of it as class A thanks-bait.
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