If You Earn More Than $3000 Per Month Please Say Something

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I am a member of a 12 step program, and at the end of each meeting they ask everybody with a year or more of sobriety to stand up, because it could be encouraging to others.

I was thinking may be we can have a warrior version of that, for all of the warriors, including myself, who could use a little encouragement.

So if you earn $3000 or more per month, please let us know!
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  • Profile picture of the author entrepreneurjay
    We just had a post previously its rude to ask that question....

    Ask about Internet marketing tips and ETC... Not peoples personal bankroll

    Unless your my mom, the IRS, a close family member, or best friend don't ask ....

    How about rephrasing it and asking who does well online? Or who works full time online? Or who's online business is successful? Not exact numbers. This is a more polite way of putting it and you get your point across.

    But I wouldn't ask it at all its no-ones business how much someone makes but your own.

    At least that is my opinion. If someone wants to tell everyone its a free country just my thoughts.

    I am not trying to be rude. I just don't think this question is appropriate to ask that's all.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ofthemix
      Originally Posted by entrepreneurjay View Post

      We just had a post previously its rude to ask that question....

      Ask about Internet marketing tips and ETC... Not peoples personal bankroll

      Unless your my mom, the IRS, a close family member, or best friend don't ask ....

      How about rephrasing it and asking who does well online? Or who works full time online? Or who's online business is successful? Not exact numbers. This is a more polite way of putting it and you get your point across.

      But I wouldn't ask it at all its no-ones business how much someone makes but your own.

      At least that is my opinion. If someone wants to tell everyone its a free country just my thoughts.

      I am not trying to be rude. I just don't think this question is appropriate to ask that's all.
      I'll never understand why so many people get upset over this. You'd think you're asking a fat woman how much she weighs. She doesn't want to tell you because she weighs so much and is embarassed about it. Do marketers get so offended because most make so little.

      Last year I made $8,000. This year I made $900 because I abandoned my previous business practices and switched to something new. It's nothing worth bragging about and I'm not affraid to share it because I know that how much money I make isn't going to affect in any way, shape, or form the amount of money that the person who is asking the question is going to make.

      Without trying to sound rude (though I know this will sound rude anyways), sometimes I wish you guys weren't so uptight about this sort of thing. Most of the time, people who ask these types of questions are looking for motivation. They need to know that making a decent amount of money online is possible . . . probably because they have tried and tried and tried and are about to throw in the towel. There's no harm in throwing a little motivation towards someone who needs it.
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      • Profile picture of the author Sardent
        Asking someone how much they make is like asking someone how many sexual partners they've had.

        Feeling uptight now?
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      • Profile picture of the author magicmarcus
        [QUOTE=Ofthemix;2766450]I'll never understand why so many people get upset over this. You'd think you're asking a fat woman how much she weighs. She doesn't want to tell you because she weighs so much and is embarassed about it. Do marketers get so offended because most make so little.

        lol that is some funny stuff... love it
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      • Profile picture of the author thefuture
        Originally Posted by Ofthemix View Post

        I'll never understand why so many people get upset over this. You'd think you're asking a fat woman how much she weighs. She doesn't want to tell you because she weighs so much and is embarassed about it. Do marketers get so offended because most make so little.

        Last year I made $8,000. This year I made $900 because I abandoned my previous business practices and switched to something new. It's nothing worth bragging about and I'm not affraid to share it because I know that how much money I make isn't going to affect in any way, shape, or form the amount of money that the person who is asking the question is going to make.

        Without trying to sound rude (though I know this will sound rude anyways), sometimes I wish you guys weren't so uptight about this sort of thing. Most of the time, people who ask these types of questions are looking for motivation. They need to know that making a decent amount of money online is possible . . . probably because they have tried and tried and tried and are about to throw in the towel. There's no harm in throwing a little motivation towards someone who needs it.
        That what iam talking about....
        I do ask people how much they are money to make me feel good... i really like what you said...
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    • Profile picture of the author txconx
      I'm not understanding why there's a negative reaction to the question.

      We have people who post screen shots of their affiliate earnings, for heaven's sake. We have people bragging about how much they make. We have people bragging about how much they make AND how much everyone else COULD make.

      But it's not okay to ASK people to voluntarily share the information? Or is it just okay to talk about what you make if you are simultaneously selling something?
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      • Profile picture of the author Gaurav Duggal
        As it has been pointed out before, its all about picking and sticking to one system. When i started out, like many others, i kept jumping from one thing to the next - but never long enough to sustain any long term growth. Sometimes I'd make $500 / month, another time maybe $1,500.

        It wasn't till a few years ago that i got more serious and chose my current path (offline consulting / sem services... whatever you want to call it) as my only focus that things took off. All said, depending on how much work I feel like putting in for the month, I'll pull in anywhere from $4000 to $15,000 a month.

        And interestingly enough, focusing on this one path has also forced me to learn and apply other related skills (e.g. outsourcing , project management, presentations, sales techniques, basic web design, product launch tactics) since all these are necessary to truly excel in the offline consulting realm. So now i have and use these skills to work on other aspects of online marketing and grow my business there while still maintaining a steady income from my offline consulting efforts.

        So if anything, what I've learned is - stick to and master one thing, then use the skills you gain there to open up more streams of income. Keep doing this as long as you are able or want to. Soon enough you can pick and choose what works for you and create a sustainable business with multiple income streams.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ofthemix
    8. (It's bad when you actually have to go back and count) And no. Do same sex partners count? I might have to add one more.
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    • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
      ...then again, the subtitle to this forum IS "Where We Talk About Making Money"....

      If you don't want to answer, don't answer....there are occasionally threads like this that pop up here and there, but not enough to go on serious rants about. Besides...I'd have to think the approach was at least tactful and sincere (sharing in order to encourage others)....
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    • Profile picture of the author CorporatePuppet
      I don't think he's asking for an exact figure of what you make... just asking for a little encouragement in the form of a success story. At least that's the way I took it. But whatever...

      I've done pretty well and I've had a similar experience to the previous poster. When I focus on taking action on one project I do well. When I jump around from one project to another or spend all day studying instead of taking action, or let self doubt sabotage my action etc. I do not do well.

      Just take action every day and you will be fine. (and remember studying is not taking action imo... study a little and then take action a LOT)
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      • Profile picture of the author Epictetus
        Originally Posted by ch3712 View Post

        I don't think he's asking for an exact figure of what you make... just asking for a little encouragement in the form of a success story. At least that's the way I took it. But whatever...

        I've done pretty well and I've had a similar experience to the previous poster. When I focus on taking action on one project I do well. When I jump around from one project to another or spend all day studying instead of taking action, or let self doubt sabotage my action etc. I do not do well.

        Just take action every day and you will be fine. (and remember studying is not taking action imo... study a little and then take action a LOT)
        Amen. And trust me in this, I Ain't religious. I gotta say I like this advice. I've been in research mode for the last 3 days and only posted one story. I found some good links and ideas. Many of which are from this very site. I'm about ready to start acting.

        And to what the thread is initially about. I don't see why anyone would care less about disclosing their income. Unless they are hiding something. My grand total so far is a whopping $19.72. lol Just enough to buy some business cards. I'd think this would be something to hide. Shhh Don't tell anyone.
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  • Profile picture of the author Clyde
    I make $3,000 a second.

    Sorry can't give you exactly how much I make a month, I lost count the first 3 seconds. :p
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Rude isn't the word I heard growing up when someone outside the family asked about income. The word was "crass" and usually followed by someone saying "let it go, he doesn't know any better than to ask".

      If you want to give your income on a public forum - no problem. If others prefer privacy - it's up to them and no one else's business.

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      • Profile picture of the author JohnLeonard
        I know that he wants to know its possible....But...What I was getting at is it is a hard work process...You don;t decide that you wanna be an internet marketer and just make money...

        there are programs that sell that "dream" but the truth is it is no less work than any other "job"

        The difference is that it is a job that we choose to do. It is a career that is hugely rewarding....there is no greater feeling than having somebody buy something that you created.

        My first online sale was in 2005 and it was for $9 and I thought that was too much...I wanted to charge 12 but I was skiddish on that. When someone bought it through PayPal I was blown away...$9...Wow....I was making $60000 a year at my brick and mortar...But that $9 was like the best thing that had ever happened...

        This is rewarding to me....And I love it...If you love it...Keep working at it, focus....and it will come....

        the best IM advice I ever got was to get a product out there....Don't toil over details...you can always give free updates but you can't make any money with an idea and no action...
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        • Profile picture of the author paul wolfe
          Originally Posted by JohnLeonard View Post

          I know that he wants to know its possible....But...What I was getting at is it is a hard work process...You don;t decide that you wanna be an internet marketer and just make money...

          there are programs that sell that "dream" but the truth is it is no less work than any other "job"

          The difference is that it is a job that we choose to do. It is a career that is hugely rewarding....there is no greater feeling than having somebody buy something that you created.

          My first online sale was in 2005 and it was for $9 and I thought that was too much...I wanted to charge 12 but I was skiddish on that. When someone bought it through PayPal I was blown away...$9...Wow....I was making $60000 a year at my brick and mortar...But that $9 was like the best thing that had ever happened...

          This is rewarding to me....And I love it...If you love it...Keep working at it, focus....and it will come....

          the best IM advice I ever got was to get a product out there....Don't toil over details...you can always give free updates but you can't make any money with an idea and no action...
          +1 to what John said.

          There's no greater feeling than someone buying something you've made - and then emailing you to say thank you because you've helped them.

          To the OP - you CAN get to 3K. But it's unlikely to happen overnight.

          Good luck.
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          • Profile picture of the author Martin Avis
            The trouble with questions like this is that the target amount is so arbitrary. Why $3000? That's a very low figure.

            And then, by questioning about a relatively low sum, the implication is that reaching it is an impossible dream and anyone claiming to make it, or more, must be telling lies.

            Truth is, a lot of people make way more than that - me included. I've been a full-time internet marketer for years and can assure you that $3000 a month is not only very achievable, but is actually a very modest achievement.

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            • Profile picture of the author Qamar
              Originally Posted by Martin.Avis View Post

              Truth is, a lot of people make way more than that - me included. I've been a full-time internet marketer for years and can assure you that $3000 a month is not only very achievable, but is actually a very modest achievement.

              Martin
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            • Profile picture of the author eternalservices
              Originally Posted by Martin.Avis View Post

              The trouble with questions like this is that the target amount is so arbitrary. Why $3000? That's a very low figure.

              And then, by questioning about a relatively low sum, the implication is that reaching it is an impossible dream and anyone claiming to make it, or more, must be telling lies.

              Truth is, a lot of people make way more than that - me included. I've been a full-time internet marketer for years and can assure you that $3000 a month is not only very achievable, but is actually a very modest achievement.

              Martin
              I love this statement
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              • Profile picture of the author Crew Chief
                Originally Posted by SanJoseTruckRepair View Post

                I am a member of a 12 step program, and at the end of each meeting they ask everybody with a year or more of sobriety to stand up, because it could be encouraging to others.

                I was thinking may be we can have a warrior version of that, for all of the warriors, including myself, who could use a little encouragement.

                So if you earn $3000 or more per month, please let us know!
                For those WF Members who need to encouragement, here ya go!

                Let me see your Warrior FACE!!!! ...arrugah!


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  • Profile picture of the author jrobinson3002
    I agree with Ofthemix. Anyway, this is voluntary. It's not like SanJose sent everyone a personal email saying "how much do you make online?" I just had my first month where I made over $3000, and I'm proud of it Also for the guys that specialize in the "make money online" niche I can't see how it would be a big deal to talk about how much money they made. Usually half of the sales page in this niche is just showing screen shots of their clickbank accounts. I just got an idea for another post.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnLeonard
    I'll tell...I don't care....

    Its 4200-5000

    But....Its a lot of hard work paying off.....
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  • Profile picture of the author magicmarcus
    my average month before "teaching internet marketing" was around $50-$70K

    now that i teach "IM"... its around $40-50K... but i enjoy teaching so its more fulfilling. and i still run my simple sites.

    the profit is roughly the same.
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  • Profile picture of the author DaveMassingham
    SanJose

    I am with you. There are so many "guru's" online these days you do not know who to listen to. Every other day our Internet Marketers are promoting some other affiliate program for you to buy because they say you can earn $xx per day using our revolutionary new system. What happened to their own system that they sold us 4 weeks ago, that said you can earn $xxx with my system (something is wrong here...or are people's attention spans getting shorter)

    **I mean no disrespect to anyone because I have been a victim to this myself until I learnt the hard way.

    It would be very helpful, if one of these guru's (or a mastermind of guru's) got together and put a package together to show you what exactly you have to do to make $10k per month. If you did not do the work, then you would not earn $10k this month.

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  • Profile picture of the author Colin Palfrey
    I think you are missing the point!

    The problem is that so many self proclaimed experts get busted here everyday, precisely because they previously gave their incomes in a thread like this.

    Just yesterday I watched someone getting hammered after they claimed they made thousands per day in their WSO copy, and straight after another member found them pleading poverty not long before in a different post. Sometimes when you're an expert its hard to keep your BS in check, so don't make it harder for them lol.

    Incidentally, I make over the $3000 per month mark that you mentioned, though I am not sure why it helps you to know this. There is no doubt you can make money from the internet, just look at Mark Zuckerburg!

    Anyway, I'm off to bed as it is late here.

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    • I apologize if offended somebody. I thought it was a good idea to ask, perhaps I was wrong.
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      • Profile picture of the author Joe Benjamin
        Originally Posted by SanJoseTruckRepair View Post

        I apologize if offended somebody. I thought it was a good idea to ask, perhaps I was wrong.

        The potential problem with the question is this: If I TOLD you how
        much I was making, one of two things generally happen...

        1. I give you a figure that is beyond your reality. Discouraging from
        even trying because you start to "imagine" how it was done (any-
        thing BUT hardwork, persistence, action) like special connections,
        better circumstances, favors, etc.

        2. I DON'T give you a figure and you throw away the idea because
        there is no burden of proof to justify pursuing...it's now assumed
        it's not worth pursuing, when you didn't know the whole time you
        were talking to the wrong people

        Of course, there IS the option that you DO take it as inspiration to
        push yourself forward...but most people I've found take 1 of the 2
        options above, and there's no avoiding it no matter HOW I choose
        to answer the question -- or not.

        It's not wrong to ask. It just a question that has more potential to
        do more harm to the asker than good in the long-term.

        The question that would be BEST to ask is "What method can I use
        to reach $xxxx amount the fastest?"

        That way, at LEAST you're getting ideas on how to achieve your
        own goals...and not "looking" at someone elses (which in the end is
        a waste of YOUR time).

        With that said, if it IS any help to you...I earn between $2000 -
        $4500 per month and growing very rapidly with some of my scaling
        techniques, online and primarily OFFLINE Direct Mail Marketing
        strategies.

        I'm actually moving a little slower than I'd like, but I'm enjoying the
        process all the same.

        Back to work for me...
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    • Profile picture of the author Epictetus
      Originally Posted by Colin Palfrey View Post

      I think you are missing the point!

      The problem is that so many self proclaimed experts get busted here everyday, precisely because they previously gave their incomes in a thread like this.

      Just yesterday I watched someone getting hammered after they claimed they made thousands per day in their WSO copy, and straight after another member found them pleading poverty not long before in a different post. Sometimes when you're an expert its hard to keep your BS in check, so don't make it harder for them lol.



      Anyway, I'm off to bed as it is late here.

      Regards,
      Colin Palfrey

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      Too funny and awesome they were busted. Everyone wants to make a buck and many have no scruples, they'll lie, use deception and pressure to do it. Unfortunately it's the bull****ters that create all the skepticism and discontent, and plain ole distrust. Not only online, but everywhere in life. One of my fiction stories involves alternate realities. One of them being an "HONEST" reality. I have alot of trouble wrapping my mind around the concept. Everything would be drastically different than what we all know.
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  • Profile picture of the author DaveMassingham
    Thanks John Leonard
    It is the honesty and appreciation is what we want to hear.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin_Hutto
    Hey San Jose,

    I make more than $3k a month. It is very possible. But you have to create something worthwhile. Something that adds true value to people's lives. Solve a problem. Make something easier. Provide a service. There are lots of ways to do it. But the key is to create not just consume. Good luck.

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    • Profile picture of the author Qamar
      Originally Posted by Kevin_Hutto View Post

      Hey San Jose,

      I make more than $3k a month. It is very possible. But you have to create something worthwhile. Something that adds true value to people's lives. Solve a problem. Make something easier. Provide a service. There are lots of ways to do it. But the key is to create not just consume. Good luck.

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      Hi, after giving your answers do you feel that you lose anything?
      I doubt so...

      By giving your kind of answers, I believe you are doing a great service to many people who are in need of some kind of motivations to keep them going in this money making business.

      I personally like your answers and hope that many warriors will follow your style and not only bragging and probably lying on the sales letter.

      Thanks a lot.



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      • Profile picture of the author imon32red
        I know that some people don't like to respond to these type of threads. However, when I was knew I loved to read them. It gave me hope that I could do it. Now I could care less. I know that some people actually put what they want to make, not what they actually make. But it is more than that.

        When I started in 2008 I didn't make jack. In fact, I didn't make more than a few cents all of 2008. In 2009 I started to make money, but it wasn't until this year that I started to see more than 3k a month.

        These threads are great to read for motivation. But don't spend a whole lot of time on them. Instead start working on that next plan.
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        • Profile picture of the author jan roos
          Originally Posted by imon32red View Post

          I know that some people don't like to respond to these type of threads. However, when I was knew I loved to read them. It gave me hope that I could do it. Now I could care less. I know that some people actually put what they want to make, not what they actually make. But it is more than that.

          When I started in 2008 I didn't make jack. In fact, I didn't make more than a few cents all of 2008. In 2009 I started to make money, but it wasn't until this year that I started to see more than 3k a month.

          These threads are great to read for motivation. But don't spend a whole lot of time on them. Instead start working on that next plan.

          I'm with you on this one. I didnt make any money for 3 years straight and the only thing that kept me going was reading posts about others making good money online.

          If you don't want to mention how much money you make online then dont. No big deal.. But don't bitch about it though. Just don't answer.

          As for me I make around 6-9K per month right now.

          Cheers

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  • Profile picture of the author Vecwun
    i would like to make 3k a month. maybe i wouldnt be in poverty then
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Atma
    $300 a month is around $100 per day. The problem for most IM'ers is they don't focus on 1 strategy to get there as they get caught up in the next 'product launch by the guru's or their apprentices which is more about making them rich (nothing wrong with that by the way) than really helping the peons to rise above their lot in life. I make a 6 figure a year income from IM but most of it comes from working with local business and helping them with their IM cause they don't have a clue what to do.

    So my suggestion is stick to 1 thing whether its affialte marketing, adsense, your own products, offline marketing, set your financial target and then make it happen cause success is inevitable on the net if you don't quit and keep honing the appropriate skills required. It won't happen by accident and some new product won't do it for you. It's the skills we learn that are worth their weight in Gold!
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    • Profile picture of the author Qamar
      Originally Posted by Michael Atma View Post


      success is inevitable on the net if you don't quit and keep honing the appropriate skills required. It won't happen by accident and some new product won't do it for you. It's the skills we learn that are worth their weight in Gold!
      I love this statement too. thanks a lot!
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  • Profile picture of the author para10
    wow, I think a lot of people missed the point here.. i think the OP was saying (although it probably came out wrong in the title) "if you made [insert dollar figure], how did you do it?"

    don't think too much into it, he's merely asking for help indirectly
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  • Profile picture of the author rondo
    "If You Earn More Than $3000 Per Month Please Say Something"

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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      "Something" here, also.

      I'm on the side of the people wondering why other people get so uptight about this. If you don't want to say what you earn, then don't reply! To complain, in a forum specifically dedicated to making money, about someone asking "How much do you make?", when you could simply ignore the thread if you don't like it, is just bizarre.

      I make a net profit of between $5,500 and $8,000 per month as a Clickbank affiliate, and a bit extra from providing writing services to existing/returning clients (closed for new business!).
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  • Profile picture of the author Susanna Dodd
    Like it was said earlier, for those new IMers out there, they ask this questions for motivational purposes. There are so many ways to make money through IM and there are so many gurus out there that it can be a little discouraging to those who are new. I think by asking about what other IMers here make is not being rude but one looking for some hope that real people are actually making money doing this online.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
      I understand someone wanting some motivation - but I personally feel if you need verification of people making money to motivate you then you are seeking the wrong motivation (proof of people making good money is already all over this site) and perhaps your head is in the wrong place all together.

      While making great money is a good thing and the benefit we all look for with building a successful business, The real accomplishments people achieve are the things they got through to make the money.

      I personally would be more impressed with people saying something like "I got 3,000 visitors to my site this month" or "I got my website built this week" or "I made my first goal of 100 sales with a product."

      The amounts one makes really don't tell us much. I could have made 3k last month selling just one item one time.

      Here's the thing - if you or anyone has the ability to sell just one thing online - even if it's a 50 cent item - then you most certainly have the ability to make 3,000 or 30,000 or what ever will make you happy.

      Perhaps a really motivational question for everyone would be, "please say something if you sold something online last month."
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      • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
        Here is something exciting I should add - I have some people who we share a house with right now. The older lady has never sold anything online in her life, and she just retired from a really labor intensive job (think assembly line) which gave her no mental stimulation.

        We went yesterday to the "Madaket Mall" which is essentially the local dump. This dump has an area where people can drop off perfectly good clothing and goods and others can pick it up at no cost. Kinda like a free garage sale.

        A couple of days ago, I found a small lot of a specific item, and told her she could try tossing it up on ebay.

        I assisted her in getting all the accounts in order (IE setting up an ebay and paypal) and yesterday she took some great photos, and I helped her get her first auction up and going.

        In one day, we have 2 bidders already and 4 watchers.

        This lady will have made her first money online by the end of next week.

        She could easily replicate or step up the process - and I dare say be profiting 3k a month in a very short time if she desires.

        Now, which is more motivational - me telling you someone is making 3k or me telling you how simple it is to get that first sale and replicate the process as much as you want? This takes the limitations far above the 3K mark.
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      • Profile picture of the author A Bary
        Originally Posted by avenuegirl View Post

        I understand someone wanting some motivation - but I personally feel if you need verification of people making money to motivate you then you are seeking the wrong motivation (proof of people making good money is already all over this site) and perhaps your head is in the wrong place all together.

        Finally, someone said it the right way...

        Thanks Jill..!!!
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      • Profile picture of the author SteveJohnson
        Originally Posted by avenuegirl View Post

        While making great money is a good thing and the benefit we all look for with building a successful business, The real accomplishments people achieve are the things they got through to make the money.
        That's a fine thing to say, and a great thing to look back upon - to see how much you've grown, and the obstacles you've overcome, as you progressed toward your goal.

        But that isn't what most people have in mind in the beginning.

        I didn't go into business for myself to grow personally, though I have. I didn't go into business for myself to be able to see what obstacles I could overcome. I did it for one reason: to make a living.

        Originally Posted by avenuegirl View Post

        Perhaps a really motivational question for everyone would be, "please say something if you sold something online last month."
        That might be a really motivational question for YOU - it isn't necessarily for ME.

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        Some of us have the inate ability to dream a dream, and KNOW, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that we can accomplish it. We ride into the rising sun and never look back.

        Some of do not have that ability, and never will. No matter the level of success that surrounds us, no matter what we've seen other people - who probably have a lot less going for them than we do - do, we know in our hearts that it will never be. Something, somewhere, will be in the way and there would be no getting around it. People who have said that they've accomplished the same dream are probably lying.

        The rest of us are in between the two extremes, to varying degrees. We require knowledge that, at some point, someone else has actually done what we are dreaming of. That knowledge helps us validate our own dream, helps us convince ourselves that yes, it's possible, and yes, I can do it too, if someone else has.

        But how do we get that knowledge? Yes, we can look at the world that surrounds us and see people that we think have gone before. But we don't really KNOW. That is, until we ask.

        For some, that's all it takes, just the knowing that someone else has done it first. Hell, we don't even check to see if they're telling the truth! The little bit of validation is all it took.

        Others, being of a more cynical nature, need some sort of proof. Examples of money, lifestyle, bling, possessions. Seeing the nice cars, fancy houses, vacations, jewelry - that's the trigger.

        That leaves us who just need a little encouragement from time to time. So we ask. Every once in a while, we have to lift our nose from the grindstone and ask our group, "is this really possible?" "Can I do it?" "Yeah? How many of YOU have done it, huh?"

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        I make more than $3,000 a month online. Sometimes a lot more. Sometimes a lot less.

        So yeah, OPer, you can too.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ron Douglas
      Originally Posted by Susanna Dodd View Post

      not being rude but one looking for some hope that real people are actually making money doing this online.
      With all this money being made all around the Internet, why does anyone still need hope from others making money. :confused:

      Are the people who own all these sites and products not "real" or are they all just trying to fool people?

      I no longer talk about how much I make, but here's a video I did back in 2008 (prior to my book deal) showing some earnings reports and teaching a strategy to make money online.

      NOTE: I'm just sharing some information, some of which may be outdated because it's over two years old and I'm no longer offering the coaching program being referenced (don't judge me ):

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      • Profile picture of the author Kevin Riley
        Hey San Jose Truck Repair

        I make it a rule never to divulge numbers, but to help you out I will reveal that I definitely make more than $3000 per month. I live in Osaka (one of the most expensive cities in the world) so if I wasn't making at the very least $3000, I'd be living in a park under a blue tarp.

        Can it be done? There are more than enough people here in the WF who can attest that it can. Just go do it!
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        • Profile picture of the author willcosys
          Originally Posted by Kevin Riley View Post

          I make it a rule never to divulge numbers, but to help you out I will reveal that I definitely make more than $3000 per month. I live in Osaka (one of the most expensive cities in the world) so if I wasn't making at the very least $3000, I'd be living in a park under a blue tarp.
          I can't believe I made it to this thread before all of Kevin's "friends" let us know that living in a park under a blue tarp would be his preferred method of housing regardless of how much money he makes.

          Hopefully one of these days I'll be able to make it to Japan to find out for myself.

          I am currently making over 3K per month, but I don't even give my family exact figures. Not even ballpark figures.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mukul Verma
    3K is a small amount.

    The 2 more questions is
    - How long have you been making that for? Anyone can do it for 2,3 or 6 months, but can you do it constantly longer
    - Are you making it teaching make money OR actually running a online business outside the IM Niche.

    Great you want motivation, but there is a thread like this all the time.

    Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author danicat
    Im a fat girl. Ill tell you right now I weigh 198. i just lost over 30 pounds in a month. No, i wont be making a product or sharing how I got those results as something others can do because i lost the weight by being really sick. But point being, im ashamed of my weight. I wouldnt be ashamed to share that i make over 3k. If I did, which I dont, i wouldnt be afraid of the irs either as i keep insane books and am on the up and up.

    Sharing is motivating. It gives others a sense that its possible. Going back to the "fat girl" analogy, as a fat girl, i love success stories. I like to watch weight loss reality shows. You see others do it and it gives you hope. Im clueless as to how.this is offensive. Its like asking a vet how much they make when youre considering being a vet.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
      Originally Posted by danicat View Post

      Im a fat girl. Ill tell you right now I weigh 198. i just lost over 30 pounds in a month. No, i wont be making a product or sharing how I got those results as something others can do because i lost the weight by being really sick. But point being, im ashamed of my weight. I wouldnt be ashamed to share that i make over 3k. If I did, which I dont, i wouldnt be afraid of the irs either as i keep insane books and am on the up and up.

      Sharing is motivating. It gives others a sense that its possible. Going back to the "fat girl" analogy, as a fat girl, i love success stories. I like to watch weight loss reality shows. You see others do it and it gives you hope. Im clueless as to how.this is offensive. Its like asking a vet how much they make when youre considering being a vet.
      You're missing the point with these shows then and the whole point behind "motivation." No one is ashamed to make 3k - but it is not the important factor and not the real root for good motivation.

      The point of the diet shows is to get these people "healthy." Some are healthy by losing 50 lbs, and some will be healthy by losing 200 lbs.

      And depending on where a Vet lives, they might make 40K a year and they might make 100k a year. A 100k a year may not make that Vet profit and may not be "healthy " for him if the neighborhood he has to live in to make that amount costs him a million a year - where as the Vet making 40K a year only needs 20k a year for his rent and expenses.

      I would be more inclined to follow the Vet who I knew was just making a profit. I don't need to even know how much profit that is - I just want to know who is in the green. This tells me they have something to work with. A good system, which can be analyzed and improved upon.


      Lets pretend you and I go on a diet together. You lose weight by being sick. I lose weight by monitoring my calorie intake and working out. Which system is replicatable, sustainable, and healthy for the long term? You lose 30 lbs, and I lose 10 but "look" like I lost 30 and look (and feel) healthy. Which is more important? Which person will be more motivational?

      Which as an outsider will be more helpful/motivational to me in the long run? You telling me that you lost 30 lbs last month, or someone telling me they have lost one pound, and can do it over and over again as much as they want or need and there are no bad long term effects and they can tell me how they did it so I can do it too?
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      • Profile picture of the author danicat
        Originally Posted by avenuegirl View Post

        You're missing the point with these shows then and the whole point behind "motivation." No one is ashamed to make 3k - but it is not the important factor and not the real root for good motivation.

        The point of the diet shows is to get these people "healthy." Some are healthy by losing 50 lbs, and some will be healthy by losing 200 lbs.

        And depending on where a Vet lives, they might make 40K a year and they might make 100k a year. A 100k a year may not make that Vet profit and may not be "healthy " for him if the neighborhood he has to live in to make that amount costs him a million a year - where as the Vet making 40K a year only needs 20k a year for his rent and expenses.

        I would be more inclined to follow the Vet who I knew was just making a profit. I don't need to even know how much profit that is - I just want to know who is in the green. This tells me they have something to work with. A good system, which can be analyzed and improved upon.


        Lets pretend you and I go on a diet together. You lose weight by being sick. I lose weight by monitoring my calorie intake and working out. Which system is replicatable, sustainable, and healthy for the long term? You lose 30 lbs, and I lose 10 but "look" like I lost 30 and look (and feel) healthy. Which is more important? Which person will be more motivational?

        Which as an outsider will be more helpful/motivational to me in the long run? You telling me that you lost 30 lbs last month, or someone telling me they have lost one pound, and can do it over and over again as much as they want or need and there are no bad long term effects and they can tell me how they did it so I can do it too?
        I think you fixated on something i mentioned offhandedly. I really dont think you can promote crohns disease as a weightloss strategy. I hardly got sick to specifically lose weight so how am i missing the point of the shows? Whats the deal with all the healthy references thrown about?

        Anyhow, my point was...share, dont share, whatever. Success is motivating. Ifyou dont want to share youre not forced to. Why bother replying if you disagree with the point of the thread? I mean this in general, not to avenuegirl specifically.
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        • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
          Originally Posted by danicat View Post

          I think you fixated on something i mentioned offhandedly. I really dont think you can promote crohns disease as a weightloss strategy. I hardly got sick to specifically lose weight so how am i missing the point of the shows? Whats the deal with all the healthy references thrown about?

          Anyhow, my point was...share, dont share, whatever. Success is motivating. Ifyou dont want to share youre not forced to. Why bother replying if you disagree with the point of the thread? I mean this in general, not to avenuegirl specifically.
          Yes, success is motivating. But financial numbers (or any numbers for that matter) are not the best motivation or true sign of real success.

          People get fixated on the dollar signs in their eyeballs.

          My references to "healthy" dieting are based on some of my own personal experiences. You brought up the numbers and diet thing - so that is where I went to relate to you and what was motivational.

          I did a diet once - and I was motivated by the wrong thing. I was motivated by the big numbers others were reporting and the speed at which they achieved these numbers.

          What if I told you I lost roughly 70 lbs in about 3 months? Is that number motivational to you?

          Now what if I told you I also lost some hair after the fact and then proceeded to put all the weight back on? How healthy am I now? And what good does it do you to know that I lost that 70 lbs?

          What good was it for me to toss you that number?

          (that is all true by the way )

          Numbers are nice and all, but IMO are not necessary or always good to use for motivation.

          Me knowing exactly (or roughly) how much anyone makes here is not going to benefit me in the slightest to me actually doing something that will increase my personal profits.

          So what if I can make 3 k a month or anyone else can make 3k a month.

          Just because I can do it, doesn't mean that you will do that.

          Asking the question is not "offensive" but just non productive and not something that can be used as an end all be all motivational factor.

          Just my opinion on the matter.
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  • Profile picture of the author MisterMunch
    Amazing how upset people are when you ask them how much they earn.

    In norway we have search engines where you can search everyone from the prime minister: Jens Stoltenberg - Skattelistene 2009 - skattelister - skatt - Aftenposten.no

    The rich dude: Kjell Inge R√łkke - Skattelistene 2009 - skattelister - skatt - Aftenposten.no

    And every other person who is registered as a norwegian tax payer.

    We use this as a tool to protect the democracy and to get information about what different celebrities earn and to see how much our parents and grand parents are worth.

    Each year when they release the new data, there are 1000's of aritcles about what the popular finance people are making, TV or music celebs, top bloggers etc. It is a lot of fun and nothing bad really.

    My point: cool down. In a society where information is open and available, people do not need to hide that much.

    EDIT: Nubers are in norwegian kroners. Skatt = tax, Formue = net worth and Inntekt = Income.
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    • Profile picture of the author kbnor
      Originally Posted by MisterMunch View Post

      Amazing how upset people are when you ask them how much they earn.

      In norway we have search engines where you can search everyone from the prime minister: ...

      And every other person who is registered as a norwegian tax payer.

      We use this as a tool to protect the democracy and to get information about what different celebrities earn and to see how much our parents and grand parents are worth.

      Each year when they release the new data, there are 1000's of aritcles about what the popular finance people are making, TV or music celebs, top bloggers etc. It is a lot of fun and nothing bad really.

      My point: cool down. In a society where information is open and available, people do not need to hide that much.

      EDIT: Nubers are in norwegian kroners. Skatt = tax, Formue = net worth and Inntekt = Income.
      That this is available in Norway does not make it right. It's easy to think of a bunch of reasons why this is not a good idea. And it's not about "being uptight" - that has nothing to do about it. It's basically very interesting that the so-called 'social democratic' nation of Norway has a rather extreme take on the concept of right to privacy... As an example, it appears that the press (in ongoing wide coverage) is not allowed to release a name of a criminal of a very serious crime prior to the verdict - even though DNA or other proofs are as good as 100% sure... You see, the identity of the criminal must be protected... At the same time, the criminals have access to information about incomes and addresses of the everyone in the nation... Oh, one more thing: It appears that legislators in most of the non-socialistic political parties of Norway do not agree with the concept that there is no right to privacy about incomes. So, yes, it's a very socialistic "thing"...
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    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
      Originally Posted by SanJoseTruckRepair View Post

      What would be a good motivational factor to use?
      Ahhh. That is the key question.

      I don't know you. You don't know me. I'm just a random person on the web conversing with you on a forum.

      (gosh, where is that Eric Louviere when I need him, lol)

      I think you may understand now that yes, people are making money all over the place and making all different amounts of money. (I think you get this, but I can't know for sure )

      If your goal is 3k a month, you should be able to see from a few of the above responses that this is an achievable goal. But that is all it is. A simple goal which you can use to measure yourself.

      Finding that right motivation to get to that goal will be a different answer for everyone on this forum.

      Why do you need this 3k a month? What are you willing to give to get there? What is important to you? What is keeping you from getting there?

      I am in no way a business coach or mentor - but these are things that coaches can sometimes ask you and help to squeeze the right answers out of you which give you the right motivation to persevere.
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    • Profile picture of the author Hviews
      Originally Posted by SanJoseTruckRepair View Post

      What would be a good motivational factor to use?
      I would say a good motivational factor is the story behind the success. The journey that took the person to that success factor. It is not enough to just look at some arbitrary number. I would want to see what a person specifically went through to get to a goal point. Just like when people have a road trip, its not the number of miles they traveled that really excite people. It is the actual journey of that road trip and all the things they went through to get to their destination. Personally I have been reading stuff by Jason Fladlien, and he also tells some of his stories through his newsletter which is inspiring. Reading about stories like his motivates me to keep trying. I'm still new myself, so I just keep pushing on so that I can also have a story to tell one day.
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  • Profile picture of the author jenhuei
    I will definitely book mark this page and come back to answer this thread when I made it!
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  • Profile picture of the author ara67
    Well I make over 3000.00 but I have to drive a truck to do it, but it is nice to see others don't have to.......
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    • Profile picture of the author unclepennybags
      I make over $3,000 a month. I do not know if this was the same for everyone but it was hard work for me.

      I am working real hard to make ten times that. I make money as a clickbank affiliate building niche blogs and ranking for google like 70% of the internet marketers out there.
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    • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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      Originally Posted by Sardent View Post

      Asking someone how much they make is like asking someone how many sexual partners they've had.

      Feeling uptight now?
      Not enough. And no, that one wouldn't make me feel uptight either, in the proper venue. This is a forum focused on making money. It has nothing to do with sex, so asking it here makes no sense. Asking it in weliketoigetlaid.com, however, would make sense.
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    • Profile picture of the author nokta2023
      There are so many different sites and scams telling many different things that I have no idea who to trust. Anyway, to my opinion, the best course of action is to be patient and learn more day by day till one feels he is quite capable of understanding what is going on around and then hit the road.
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    • Profile picture of the author foxanthony
      I'm in this for the lifestyle more than anything, being my own boss etc.

      I think one reason this comes up, is there are so many ways to do IM and money is the only common denominator.

      I haven't made any money yet, but I'm happier than I have been in years. I love this stuff! Too bad there's no number that can be put on that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
    I just want to add that money is easy for anyone to focus on, but it can definitely lead you down the wrong path. Work on shifting your real focus to doing the actual activities necessary to get a real business system in place. No matter what particular model you choose (affiliate, product seller, service provider, etc.), focus on getting all the details worked out and each piece of the system in place and working for you.

    Once that happens, it's just a matter of taking care of your customers as though they were your best friends. High rates of loyalty and repeat customers are the result of offering more than just a good product or service. Go the extra mile and you'll develop an ever-growing base of customers who buy whatever you put out. The money will follow. You'll exceed $3,000/month... easily.

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    • Profile picture of the author Ladyboss1
      I have been making over that since the on of 1998 online..
      I had no choice back then, single mom of 2 then a newborn thrown into the mix, I didn"t have time for a real job. It took me about 5 months to ramp up to that figure and I have never looked back. If you treat this like a business then there is no limit on income. It's not rocket science, just hard work, sometimes repetitive, but always fun for me.. I figure I'm on a laptop, on my couch, watching a show with my kids, make a page, click upload and voila I make money, it does'nt get much better than that.
      Hardest part in this business is getting going, I've seen too many people give up just before they hit it big..
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  • Profile picture of the author thomarv29
    I dont know if its applicable because i dont use Affiliate marketing or squeeze pages to make money, I just build a website, get it profitable and sell it for about 25K to 40K. We typically do about 4-5 deals per month. We sell only to referrals now so we stay busy and only work with who we want... I use warrior forum for more technical questions. We are also working on a social media concept that everyone should hear about soon. Have fun guys.
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    • Profile picture of the author Eric Louviere
      Originally Posted by thomarv29 View Post

      I dont know if its applicable because i dont use Affiliate marketing or squeeze pages to make money, I just build a website, get it profitable and sell it for about 25K to 40K. We typically do about 4-5 deals per month. We sell only to referrals now so we stay busy and only work with who we want... I use warrior forum for more technical questions. We are also working on a social media concept that everyone should hear about soon. Have fun guys.
      That's fantastic! Sounds like you all have one solid business plan and are just working the system. Do you attach continuity to any of those sales, or retain a percentage ownership? I bet there's even more residual income you could factor in - if you wanted to... but you might already do that. Regardless, that's great to hear and pretty much IMO answers the OP's request.

      As far as my response to the OP, I'd say that most people just want to hear that this is real and they want to acquire that "self belief" they can do it too, and that they are not just wasting their time on something that's a pipe dream.

      There's nothing wrong with asking if people make over 3k. Isnt that what this forum is about?? helping people? Encouraging others to strive for more, etc? I remember when Mike Filsaime would come in here and post "my first $10,000 day" etc.

      The day I posted "I quit my day job!" was one of the best days of my life. Encouragement and self belief is HUGE. In fact, I'd go as far as saying it's one of the biggest reasons people succeed or fail (self belief... FAITH!)

      here's a quick off the top of my head 12 step list-thing-ish (maybe more like David Letterman top 10 list)

      drum roll...

      12. Self belief. You can do anything you laser focus on and put your mind to, with faith. there are countless amounts of people far worse off than you, who are focused and taking risks and putting themselves out there!

      11. Courage. Most are afraid of ridicule and refrain from selling stuff because of the fear of what people will think and say about them or their products/services. You got to have courage (big b#lls)

      10. Focus. There's that word again, but most people half-ass everything, just toss stuff up and see what sticks, never really get into the guts of anything or stick to it with laser focus through until the finish. Your ability to focus on the task at hand constantly, consistently and even when you are sick of focusing on that task at hand will equal your success. Dont just discount off "focus" as if you've heard it a million times, because the chances are.... YOU DONT FOCUS.

      9. Specialized Knowledge. General knowledge is not good enough to do a damn thing. Being knowledgeable does not equal money. Whoever said "knowledge is power" is wrong. Specialized and applied knowledge is power. I first specialized in copywriting and that made me a small fortune that lead to many other things. Specialized! The guy above who sells 25k sites, that's specialized knowledge. Most marketers are 10% good at everything and NOT 90% good at one thing.

      8. Sell stuff! People are afraid to sell and are not aggressive enough to sell stuff consistently and constantly. Sell all week long, all the time. Sell, sell and sell! never stop selling stuff.

      7. Branding. Again, people are afraid to brand themselves. I just noticed an email from a marketer named Tim. I'm on his list (or it's spam) and he's pitching something and he signs his name Tim and the email is from some crazy named email account. Tim? Who the heck is Tim? Tim who? delete. People buy from those they _____, _____ and _____.

      6. Traffic. Most go the free route and there's nothing wrong with that... other than the fact, free = a very, very long a$$ time from now that free traffic will pay off (usually) and most newbies dont have long term thinking to begin with. Paid traffic and JV affiliates. Focus there and change your results. THEN, go for free traffic later (just my opinion so screw off if you dont like it).

      5. Conversions. Should I even go there? Most cant afford copy and most suck at copywriting, case closed, no money made (selling info products that is)

      4. Product creation. Most go the easy, cheap, crappy route (PLR!) and while there's nothing wrong with that... most of the time you are not turning your customers into raving fans of yours. Which brings me to #3

      3. Life time value of a customer. If I sold you on a $17 product and blew you away, you'd be more likely to spend $97 with me. If that 97 product blew you away too, you'd be more likely to spend $1000 or more with me.

      2. Relationships & Masterminding. I've learned more from skype conversations and offline event bars and phone calls with other marketers than I ever have from some damn ebook. I remember learning (from Keith Baxter) years ago, how to earn money from "trial downloads" of software as an affiliate. That made me a bunch of $$. I bet I've made $500k just from what I've learned from him alone. He's a buddy, but I also paid him for consulting (big bucks)...! Find someone or a group who have been there and done that. It will increase all of the above for you.

      1. Faith. You cannot have faith and self doubt at the same time. It's one or the other. Self doubt leads to failure and faith leads to more faith, which leads to more faith, which is the ultimate key to achieving everything you want or will ever want in all aspects of your life.

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      • Profile picture of the author Qamar
        Originally Posted by Eric Louviere View Post

        That's fantastic! Sounds like you all have one solid business plan and are just working the system. Do you attach continuity to any of those sales, or retain a percentage ownership? I bet there's even more residual income you could factor in - if you wanted to... but you might already do that. Regardless, that's great to hear and pretty much IMO answers the OP's request.

        As far as my response to the OP, I'd say that most people just want to hear that this is real and they want to acquire that "self belief" they can do it too, and that they are not just wasting their time on something that's a pipe dream.

        There's nothing wrong with asking if people make over 3k. Isnt that what this forum is about?? helping people? Encouraging others to strive for more, etc? I remember when Mike Filsaime would come in here and post "my first $10,000 day" etc.

        The day I posted "I quit my day job!" was one of the best days of my life. Encouragement and self belief is HUGE. In fact, I'd go as far as saying it's one of the biggest reasons people succeed or fail (self belief... FAITH!)

        here's a quick off the top of my head 12 step list-thing-ish (maybe more like David Letterman top 10 list)

        drum roll...

        12. Self belief. You can do anything you laser focus on and put your mind to, with faith. there are countless amounts of people far worse off than you, who are focused and taking risks and putting themselves out there!

        11. Courage. Most are afraid of ridicule and refrain from selling stuff because of the fear of what people will think and say about them or their products/services. You got to have courage (big b#lls)

        10. Focus. There's that word again, but most people half-ass everything, just toss stuff up and see what sticks, never really get into the guts of anything or stick to it with laser focus through until the finish. Your ability to focus on the task at hand constantly, consistently and even when you are sick of focusing on that task at hand will equal your success. Dont just discount off "focus" as if you've heard it a million times, because the chances are.... YOU DONT FOCUS.

        9. Specialized Knowledge. General knowledge is not good enough to do a damn thing. Being knowledgeable does not equal money. Whoever said "knowledge is power" is wrong. Specialized and applied knowledge is power. I first specialized in copywriting and that made me a small fortune that lead to many other things. Specialized! The guy above who sells 25k sites, that's specialized knowledge. Most marketers are 10% good at everything and NOT 90% good at one thing.

        8. Sell stuff! People are afraid to sell and are not aggressive enough to sell stuff consistently and constantly. Sell all week long, all the time. Sell, sell and sell! never stop selling stuff.

        7. Branding. Again, people are afraid to brand themselves. I just noticed an email from a marketer named Tim. I'm on his list (or it's spam) and he's pitching something and he signs his name Tim and the email is from some crazy named email account. Tim? Who the heck is Tim? Tim who? delete. People buy from those they _____, _____ and _____.

        6. Traffic. Most go the free route and there's nothing wrong with that... other than the fact, free = a very, very long a$$ time from now that free traffic will pay off (usually) and most newbies dont have long term thinking to begin with. Paid traffic and JV affiliates. Focus there and change your results. THEN, go for free traffic later (just my opinion so screw off if you dont like it).

        5. Conversions. Should I even go there? Most cant afford copy and most suck at copywriting, case closed, no money made (selling info products that is)

        4. Product creation. Most go the easy, cheap, crappy route (PLR!) and while there's nothing wrong with that... most of the time you are not turning your customers into raving fans of yours. Which brings me to #3

        3. Life time value of a customer. If I sold you on a $17 product and blew you away, you'd be more likely to spend $97 with me. If that 97 product blew you away too, you'd be more likely to spend $1000 or more with me.

        2. Relationships & Masterminding. I've learned more from skype conversations and offline event bars and phone calls with other marketers than I ever have from some damn ebook. I remember learning (from Keith Baxter) years ago, how to earn money from "trial downloads" of software as an affiliate. That made me a bunch of $$. I bet I've made $500k just from what I've learned from him alone. He's a buddy, but I also paid him for consulting (big bucks)...! Find someone or a group who have been there and done that. It will increase all of the above for you.

        1. Faith. You cannot have faith and self doubt at the same time. It's one or the other. Self doubt leads to failure and faith leads to more faith, which leads to more faith, which is the ultimate key to achieving everything you want or will ever want in all aspects of your life.

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        Thanks a lot.
        Honestly,this is the best and most useful answer that I have ever heard up to this moment hear in warrior forum....This kind words meant a lot to boost the morale and spirits of newcomer or "oldtimers" who have not yet taste a dime online...All the points are spot on...

        I want to be in your list...where can i fill up my email address?


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        • Profile picture of the author James Clark
          To x3xsolxdierx3x

          What I mean is money can sometimes be blinding. You must have vision that is, seeing where you are going. Money is like having your left hand in your face and you can’t see the right hand.

          Believe it or not the IM community is a very small group of people. I’m speaking about my own experiences. When I was sitting in front to this computer trying to learn List building and all the other things that Marketers have to learn, I felt a lot of pressure.

          Making money is not your real job Marketing is. I set up a blog and started writing and my traffic went from 300 visitors to 5000 visitors in three months. I didn’t spend one day thinking about money!

          Well, that is what works for me. One of the most importantly lessons that I learned in life is this. Just because someone is good at something doesn’t mean they can teach it.
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    I think this post is a bit silly and missing the 3 most important elements to succeeding online and what it means.



    1) It is not how much money you make online, it is how much potential you have to. If you have experience and a product that is actually any good and can help people then you have the potential to make wayyyy more than just $3000 a month.

    2) Do you giveaway good content and keep customers happy. Trust me when i was struggling, i failed to do this. If you build a list and give them what they want for free, they will be happy to be a paying customer down the line. Help them for free and give them nice smaller results and then you will not only get a customer but a fan for life.

    3) Are you really after money or success. If it is the latter, you will be fine and be truely classed as legit marketer as people can see that you are willing to help...and not just working for the $$$ in your account. People can see you are serious about your business and u really are a good guy and want to help people.

    If you are just after money, go to the casino. Because simply, that is where you belong.

    I understand why people post these threads, but isnt time you stopped doing that and start building a list of people, and a real business. If you do that, people trust you....the money will come in automatically.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tracey_Meagher
    In an industry where too many people seems to boast about how much they make, it doesn't seem such an absurd question. We ware constantly bombarded with variations on the "How I Make $XXXX .... " theme. I don't think the guy meant any harm. He was looking for motivation and when the industry uses income figures so regularly to 'motivate' people to buy their product, the question seems reasonable.

    Some people complaining about the question here on this thread even have daily incomes in their signatures. Absurd!
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  • Profile picture of the author Keyword Prodigy
    I've been trying to make $3,000 a month since I left school in 1986. After 24 years my highest month has been $1,200 when one of my websites got to #1.

    Now I don't make very much, if I make $50 in a month I'm doing well.

    In another 24 years from now I hope to have broken that $3,000 a month. lol
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    • Profile picture of the author imguru
      Originally Posted by Keyword Prodigy View Post

      I've been trying to make $3,000 a month since I left school in 1986. After 24 years my highest month has been $1,200 when one of my websites got to #1.

      Now I don't make very much, if I make $50 in a month I'm doing well.

      In another 24 years from now I hope to have broken that $3,000 a month. lol
      You have got to be kidding, right?
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      • Profile picture of the author Keyword Prodigy
        Originally Posted by imguru View Post

        You have got to be kidding, right?
        No. My rankings dropped so my income dropped. I'll never stop trying though. I've never given up on anything and I don't intend to give up on IM.
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        • Profile picture of the author James Clark
          To the OP,

          I would stop thinking about the money and think about creating real value and trying to help someone, and the money will come.
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          • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
            Originally Posted by James Clark View Post

            To the OP,

            I would stop thinking about the money and think about creating real value and trying to help someone, and the money will come.
            I understand the sincere perspective in which this was written, however, I tend to disagree ever so slightly....there are TONS of people out there that create value and 'try' to help others, however the money doesn't just come because they aren't successful at branding and marketing themselves and their services. Theoretically, if you give to others, they 'should' give back (causing the money to 'come'), however, that isn't always the case.....

            Has anyone here given ALOT to others and felt like the money did not come? The thing that separates the earners from the non-earners is the ability to creatively exert a degree of influence and authority...established around a personal brand...JMHO...
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          • Originally Posted by James Clark View Post

            To the OP,

            I would stop thinking about the money and think about creating real value and trying to help someone, and the money will come.
            Well... I have a blog where I give out ton of free information. I get about 200 visitors per day, all of them looking for a solution for a specific problem. I give them the solution for free (this blog is my way of giving back) and I see no money out of it.

            They sign up/download my free stuff. They send me thank you notes for how helpful my stuff is and how kind I am to provide it all for free, but I rarely see any money from it.

            I have ads on the website, I have affiliate links that are sprinkled around in a non pushy way, and I ask for donations. So if people wanted to reciprocate they have more than one opportunity to do that. But they don't.

            My point is that just creating lots of value and helping tons of people did not really translate into making money for me, perhaps your experience is different.
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            • Profile picture of the author James Clark
              Originally Posted by SanJoseTruckRepair View Post

              Well... I have a blog where I give out ton of free information. I get about 200 visitors per day, all of them looking for a solution for a specific problem. I give them the solution for free (this blog is my way of giving back) and I see no money out of it.

              They sign up/download my free stuff. They send me thank you notes for how helpful my stuff is and how kind I am to provide it all for free, but I rarely see any money from it.

              I have ads on the website, I have affiliate links that are sprinkled around in a non pushy way, and I ask for donations. So if people wanted to reciprocate they have more than one opportunity to do that. But they don't.

              My point is that just creating lots of value and helping tons of people did not really translate into making money for me, perhaps your experience is different.
              I looked a your web site. First of all you have to know how to give away stuff. I'm not going to make that public in the post. I don't see any value.You are telling them about your services.

              Remember, its not what you think its what they are thinking.
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              • Originally Posted by James Clark View Post

                To the OP,

                I would stop thinking about the money and think about creating real value and trying to help someone, and the money will come.
                Originally Posted by SanJoseTruckRepair View Post

                Well... I have a blog where I give out ton of free information. I get about 200 visitors per day, all of them looking for a solution for a specific problem. I give them the solution for free (this blog is my way of giving back) and I see no money out of it.

                They sign up/download my free stuff. They send me thank you notes for how helpful my stuff is and how kind I am to provide it all for free, but I rarely see any money from it.

                I have ads on the website, I have affiliate links that are sprinkled around in a non pushy way, and I ask for donations. So if people wanted to reciprocate they have more than one opportunity to do that. But they don't.

                My point is that just creating lots of value and helping tons of people did not really translate into making money for me, perhaps your experience is different.
                Originally Posted by James Clark View Post

                I looked a your web site. First of all you have to know how to give away stuff. I'm not going to make that public in the post. I don't see any value.You are telling them about your services.

                Remember, its not what you think its what they are thinking.
                The sites in my signature? One is a a site that I created for my relative, another one is a site that I created a long time ago when I was pissed off with comcast, but it has been getting some traffic lately, so I figured, I'd throw a link in my sig, just to see if it will help ranking a little. Since I don't care to promote this site heavily.

                The blog that I was referring to is Porn Addiction - How to Stop - Free Help - Overcoming Pornography you can check out alexa ranking for it, or whatever else you like, and I think it will back up some of my claims. Plus most of my interaction with visitors takes place over an email due to a sensitive nature of the subject.

                Anyway, I am not trying to argue with your point, all I am saying is that just giving out value and helping people will not make you money, unless you find a way to capitalize on it.
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                • Profile picture of the author zenmack
                  Originally Posted by SanJoseTruckRepair View Post

                  The sites in my signature? One is a a site that I created for my relative, another one is a site that I created a long time ago when I was pissed off with comcast, but it has been getting some traffic lately, so I figured, I'd throw a link in my sig, just to see if it will help ranking a little. Since I don't care to promote this site heavily.

                  The blog that I was referring to is Porn Addiction - How to Stop - Free Help - Overcoming Pornography you can check out alexa ranking for it, or whatever else you like, and I think it will back up some of my claims. Plus most of my interaction with visitors takes place over an email due to a sensitive nature of the subject.

                  Anyway, I am not trying to argue with your point, all I am saying is that just giving out value and helping people will not make you money, unless you find a way to capitalize on it.
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            • Profile picture of the author Dellco
              Originally Posted by SanJoseTruckRepair View Post

              Well... I have a blog where I give out ton of free information. I get about 200 visitors per day, all of them looking for a solution for a specific problem. I give them the solution for free (this blog is my way of giving back) and I see no money out of it.

              They sign up/download my free stuff. They send me thank you notes for how helpful my stuff is and how kind I am to provide it all for free, but I rarely see any money from it.

              I have ads on the website, I have affiliate links that are sprinkled around in a non pushy way, and I ask for donations. So if people wanted to reciprocate they have more than one opportunity to do that. But they don't.

              My point is that just creating lots of value and helping tons of people did not really translate into making money for me, perhaps your experience is different.
              I don't disbelieve you one bit, but that is because you are not pushing the right buttons in people. People are only motivated to spend money if they feel they have something in it for them.

              That is one of the basics of marketing.
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        • Profile picture of the author imguru
          Originally Posted by Keyword Prodigy View Post

          No. My rankings dropped so my income dropped. I'll never stop trying though. I've never given up on anything and I don't intend to give up on IM.
          You've been trying for 24 years to make $100 a day with IM? What have you been trying so far? How much time a day are you working on this?
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris30K
    I'm trying to get there, I was making 1000 a month, but it was peaking so I had to switch up the strategy and try to start building my own website instead of writing mass articles.

    Don't ever do that stupid freakin strategy.
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  • Profile picture of the author neodarth
    I have some 3k months and I have some many more $$ month (and one month I have nearly zero!), it depends on the effort and focus I put onto it.

    so 3K is very doable if you change your point of view is just $100/day - 2 $50 sales or 200 $0,5 adsense daily clicks.

    Start by setting daily goals, like: Today I'm going to sell 2 affiliate products. What do I need to do to achieve this?
    -write two articles and upload it to these article directories 1...2...3...4...etc.
    - make 3 blog comments
    - post in 2 forums
    - answer 2 questions on yahoo answer
    - chrip around on twitter.
    - stand naked on the road side with a sign "visit www.mysite.com!"
    ... and so on.
    daily goals leads to weekly goals, and then to monthly goals, and yearly goals and so on...

    Until you get some expertise your income will bounce up and down like a hooters waitress breast, so if you see your numbers drop down don't feel bad, one step at the time is my advice.

    And as a motivational factor there are many, for example you could picture yourself as a successful man and stick to that image until you get there.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bojan_Djordjevic
    I don't see anything rude if you ask someone how much money he makes. Can someone explain me why ?
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    • Profile picture of the author gotti3636
      Originally Posted by Bojan_Djordjevic View Post

      I don't see anything rude if you ask someone how much money he makes. Can someone explain me why ?
      I don't think it is rude to ask...but really, what does it matter to you how much someone else makes? Knowing how much money is being made by someone else is not going to help you achieve anything unless you get down and start working like they do.

      Originally Posted by Keyword Prodigy View Post

      I've been trying to make $3,000 a month since I left school in 1986. After 24 years my highest month has been $1,200 when one of my websites got to #1.

      Now I don't make very much, if I make $50 in a month I'm doing well.

      In another 24 years from now I hope to have broken that $3,000 a month. lol
      I think it is a bigger surprise that you have been doing IM for 24 years and only just joined the warrior forum this month!
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  • Profile picture of the author Randy Daugherty
    I am earning more than that said amount...how use the link below
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  • Profile picture of the author brettb
    There are members of The Keyword Academy making $10,000 a month. Anyone can get to this with enough hard work, massive action and focus.

    My company's accounts are publically accessible so I can reveal I make $1000 a month, mostly through my own products.
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  • Profile picture of the author Silas Hart
    I make between $400-$700 per day depending on the market, my sources, and time of year. I'm hoping that by Nov 1st I will have a couple $1000 days before x-mas. With eBay knocking U.S. sellers off of the market, I'm either going to make a Lot more or a Lot less depending on how well we can adapt.

    I do well in land and my rental properties when at full occupancy.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Munch
    I'm reluctant to say how much I earn a month as I'm not keen on sharing my personal finances publicly, but I will say that if you are wondering if there's plenty of people earning $3000 then I can say there are plenty of them. How much you earn online is really down to you.

    It is great to get to know people who are doing well as you can learn a lot from them and it will certainly be inspiring. I've met and learned from people who frequently experience $10,000 days or more, and it is certainly inspiring and educational to see their approach.

    As for me my business has allowed me to travel the world while working from my laptop without needing to worry about money, and it has been consistently growing.
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  • Profile picture of the author TK1
    I've learned in my life:

    1.) If you want to make much money or have a big career don't focus on much money and a carreer, but focus at first what you want to do.

    2.) Don't care about the money other people make or claim to make.

    3.) Brain makes money, emotions loose it.

    I don't know if this fits well specifically in this thread, but it came to my mind reading all of this, especially because in my opinion questions like this are ALL emotional driven and having nothing to do with using your head for your own life.

    TK
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  • Profile picture of the author Kael41
    Sure, going back to the OP, I'll say something. I make well in excess of the figure you post per month. Now, how does that help you or motivate you? I've been at this game now for over 10 years and in my experience, you need a systematic plan to stick to and crank out.

    We're all mad scientists here, make no mistake. So once you hit on something, ramp that baby up and duplicate, duplicate, duplicate.
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  • Profile picture of the author zenmack
    It seems people who got upset at this question could be the ones who are not doing very well online. I don't get what the big to do is all about over it.

    Must be a cultural thing. I guess you don't ask someone at work how much they are making? I think that is stupid. This is why I have worked for myself since 1988. I just can't stand the stupidity of work environments and the rules that hold down people who think outside of the box or step to a different drummer.

    I believe that when you enter the world of the entrepreneur you should leave all of those sheeple rules and customs behind you. They only hold you down and hold you back.

    I have made over 3,000 a month online. Depending on if I create a new product or not I will break those numbers. I only create products to solve a problem.

    Before some wise guy pipes in, I don't try to create junk products just to make more money. I am in a niche that I am passionate about (helping guys get over their women problems). The people who do business with me trust me and I would never break that trust for a dolla!

    I've been on this forum for a while and I see a lot of the same type of people. People looking for a quick buck and a quick get rich scheme. Just visit the wso section.

    That same type seems to be guarded about everything they do and make online. Fear based!

    Coming online in desperation looking for the cheap route to stardom money and fame.

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  • Profile picture of the author bizconsultant
    I'm doing more than 3k a month, but my stuff is mostly offline consulting
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    • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
      A lot depends on your perspective.

      My first thought was, who only makes $3k a month? Is that even above the poverty level?

      But then looking at the many posts, and doing a reality check, the fact is a ton of Warriors would love to make that much. Or at least that much online to supplement / replace a job.

      To those who are wondering, yes, real money can be made online. Real money is made online. There are more money making tips on this forum than you will find anywhere else.

      It takes a while to be able to differentiate between the gems and the junk. To see through the hollow claims and wonder: is this guy without a website but 20 WSOs about making $100 a day really making $2000 a day with these techniques?

      My advice: find some names you trust and then try to read everything they have ever written. Start with Allen Says. Not only have I bought all his stuff, but when I first joined the forum I searched for and found every post he wrote and read them. This was obviously not a 30 minute project. But well worth it. Do that for every Warrior you think is making contributions that can put money in your pocket.
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      • Profile picture of the author thatgirlJ
        Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

        A lot depends on your perspective.

        My first thought was, who only makes $3k a month? Is that even above the poverty level?
        Geez, I hope so. Or else our teachers are out of luck! $36,000 was my starting salary when I was a first grade teacher, LOL!

        Not all of us were/are fancy lawyers :p
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  • Profile picture of the author nokta2023
    And one more thing, if a person is aiming to thrive through learning from different sources including people like those are here, no one should discourage him/her by directing half insulting way of talking.
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  • Profile picture of the author thatgirlJ
    I absolutely understand why you asked, OP. I also find it motivating to know that other "normal" people are earning good incomes online.

    For whatever it's worth, I am saying "something" too

    But, my motivation is being able to stay home with my children, and there was NO way I was going to return to work while they are little. That meant I needed to earn "something" and quite a bit more.

    Everyone needs to find their motivation that drives them beyond money. But, knowing that there is lots of money out there to be had certainly does help
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  • Profile picture of the author Jimmy Reilly
    Originally Posted by SanJoseTruckRepair View Post

    I am a member of a 12 step program, and at the end of each meeting they ask everybody with a year or more of sobriety to stand up, because it could be encouraging to others.

    I was thinking may be we can have a warrior version of that, for all of the warriors, including myself, who could use a little encouragement.

    So if you earn $3000 or more per month, please let us know!
    My WSO's alone currently do over 3000 a month, so I guess you could say it is possible to do it just by being on this forum and taking action.

    The best encouragement is success, even a small one. Take some action and make few bucks, I guarantee you it will encourage you more than anything I can say here.
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  • Profile picture of the author jointaldc
    just from certain IM ventures about 6300 a month
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  • Profile picture of the author good2go4
    I love the idea that this thread was meant to be motivational to people who are still trying to "make it" and in NZ $3000 a month is a spot over what you would get in benefit checks if you needed them, but it is handy in our household.

    I make more than $3000 per month, but I do a lot of different things to make that money. I think what too many people focus on is making that money through IM, when in fact as someone else on this thread mentioned you could make the money selling things through Ebay.

    If there is a computer in my house and an internet connection I know I can make money - I have been doing that for over ten years. But the reason why I still do it, and want everyone else to share in doing the same sort of thing, is because I have freedom. I can do what i want, when I want. When my kids were at home, I homeschooled them, and worked online; now they are grown, I can visit them, or have them visit me - I can take the time to play with my grandkids, and I do. And in almost 50 years I have not found anything that I love more than the freedom the internet gives me. As well as good friendships and the opportunity to help others.

    It is the dream life that is important to me; and I am passionate about it. And if you want help in creating the same sort of life for yourself then this forum will be a huge part of that process.

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  • Profile picture of the author AFI
    I used to but lost it all, does that count?
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  • Profile picture of the author winsoar
    Don't get "income" mixed up with "profit".

    Some of the biggest earners advertising how much they are earning are making very little profit because they are spending so much money on pay per click ads!
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    I make a lot more than just $3000 per month. I do not need to brag, The easiest way is just show you how i did it.

    I struggled to get past there for a while. In the end, I just decided to do 3 simple things.



    1) Increase my smaller list into BIGGER ASSED Lists! This helped, as the more people seeing my offers and AutoR messages the more chance I had of making money.

    2) Mike filsaime told me I needed more affilates, so I got more of my prospects to become my affilates. I trained them via video and other text and email instructions and it worked like a champ.

    3) Also I just added more products, several infact. I soon realized that if you offer someone one product they have just that 1 option. But if you offer them several different products in the same niche or market they are likely to say yes to at least one of them. Smart marketing move.



    Yes it was a lot of work, but who the hell says this IM stuff is a piece of cake.

    Look around this forum, and you will continually see the smarties say one things Hard work pays off!!! Say no more.
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    Something. I've been around $10k/month for a few months now because I struck it nicely with Android Apps.

    Not wanting all my eggs in one basket though, I'm switching some of my profit over to fund many other ventures.
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