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Well Bye Bye YouTube

by TiffanyLambert
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Guess I better go back and read through Harlan's post a little more thoroughly. My "4 ways to make money on Squidoo" video got me banned. All my videos gone.

How'd I find out?

A subscriber left me a note on my blog. Nice way to wake up.
tiff
#bye #youtube
  • Profile picture of the author Ernie Lo
    Sorry to hear that Tiffany. It's been a tough month for many of us.

    First Articlebase ban/delete my account (after having 300+ articles approved) and now Google panda has hit some of my sites as it has with many other people.

    Are you going to make another account or forget about YT?

    edit - oops I guess bye bye means that answer is no
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    • Profile picture of the author CC
      Tiffany..sorry to hear your videos are gone ... I learned a lot from them.

      I guess we are going to have to think up new titles that don't have the
      "make money" in them.

      I was going to post my video, but I think I will wait a bit now.

      I know it won't be long before you are back at it.

      Constance
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  • Profile picture of the author TiffanyLambert
    Guess not. Why do all that work to get banned? lol
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      How many video's did you loose Tiffany and I take it you have them elsewhere?

      Really sorry to hear that.

      Makes me laugh really, as Roger pointed out in Harlans thread, you can post racial slurs, laugh at disabled people and say anything you like in the comments. You can also post video's promoting terrorism, people being attacked, football hooligans, gypsy fights, dogs mauling each other, a crocodile walking around with a mans arm in it's mouth, to name but a few but...

      BY GOD....

      You so much as think of leaving a make money video and they'll rip the rug from under you and wee all over your business.

      At least they have their priorities, absolutely where they should be...:rolleyes:
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    • Profile picture of the author omk
      Tiff, I think you got banned because your s.doo video was too good!
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  • Profile picture of the author pdrs
    Sorry to hear that, its really becoming a battlefield out there
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  • Profile picture of the author uniquesvcs
    Tiffany,
    Are you sure their all gone I just searched "make money on squidoo" and your video is still there and running. Now that I look deeper it looks like someone may have uploaded your video on their account. "makemoneysquidoo"

    Thor
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  • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
    I have yet to really utilize YouTube to it's full potential.

    Why would THAT video get you banned? Are they gutting any videos about making money online?
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
    Banned
    Why don't you guys and girls just upload your videos to Amazon S3 and stream them from there? It's dirt cheap.
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    • Profile picture of the author TiffanyLambert
      Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

      How many video's did you loose Tiffany and I take it you have them elsewhere?

      Really sorry to hear that.

      Makes me laugh really, as Roger pointed out in Harlans thread, you can post racial slurs, laugh at disabled people and say anything you like in the comments. You can also post video's promoting terrorism, people being attacked, football hooligans, gypsy fights, dogs mauling each other, a crocodile walking around with a mans arm in it's mouth, to name but a few but...

      BY GOD....

      You so much as think of leaving a make money video and they'll rip the rug from under you and wee all over your business.

      At least they have their priorities, absolutely where they should be...:rolleyes:
      That's what I was saying too in Harlan's post. God forbid in a ****ty economy we actually try to help people pay the bills.

      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      Why don't you guys and girls just upload your videos to Amazon S3 and stream them from there? It's dirt cheap.
      I have AS3 and use it for my business but I like free. LOL Not sure if it'd be dirt cheap for hundreds of videos? I have several years of videos there.
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    • Profile picture of the author mikemcghee
      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      Why don't you guys and girls just upload your videos to Amazon S3 and stream them from there? It's dirt cheap.
      Other than it being free there is also the promotion aspect of people seeing it from youtube's site.
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      • Profile picture of the author Shannon Herod
        Same happened to my IM account Tiff. Over 100 professionally done videos done the tubes!

        Good thing is I have all my videos on s3 as well and I never put youtube videos on my site. I just do not trust other companies with my content.

        My amazon bill is below a $100.00 a month and I have close to 500 or so videos on it with around 20,000 play a month.

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  • Profile picture of the author Altug
    I know they aren't just targetting "make money" video's unfortunately.
    Vince Delmonte got about 70 video's banned in one day for no apparent reason. His video's are usually just giving out good fitness content and value. No blatant selling.

    Google have lost the plot - I hate how face-less they are and don't give anybody a chance to explain or rectify the problems.
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    • Profile picture of the author TiffanyLambert
      Originally Posted by Altug View Post

      I know they aren't just targetting "make money" video's unfortunately.
      Vince Delmonte got about 70 video's banned in one day for no apparent reason. His video's are usually just giving out good fitness content and value. No blatant selling.

      Google have lost the plot - I hate how face-less they are and don't give anybody a chance to explain or rectify the problems.
      Agree - it says if you want to have it reviewed, contact them but the contact link just takes you to a "thanks, we'll review it" page. You can't even discuss.
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    • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
      Originally Posted by Altug View Post

      I know they aren't just targetting "make money" video's unfortunately.
      Vince Delmonte got about 70 video's banned in one day for no apparent reason. His video's are usually just giving out good fitness content and value. No blatant selling.

      Google have lost the plot - I hate how face-less they are and don't give anybody a chance to explain or rectify the problems.
      Just to play devil's advocate....

      From a business standpoint, it could be extremely laborious and tedious to actually listen to the explanations of the thousands of users....

      The most cost effective approach just seems to be banning and moving on.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      I think this is the beginning of a trend that will get worse before it improves. Unfortunately good marketers like Tiff will get caught in the crossfire.

      I can understand it to a certain point. Look at the posts here - very few people are asking how to provide value or share knowledge. It's about how to slide in your link on Facebook or Twitter, how to squeeze a buck out of a site visitor, how to slip your affiliate link into someone's site. The "make money" and a few other niches have earned a rep for scammy behavior and all of us suffer for that.

      Fitness is another niche that's been scammed to pieces and experts will suffer along with the trolls.

      kay
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      • Profile picture of the author JimmyD
        Got to say I agree with the views on big G...too big.

        I had my adwords account suspended permanently this week. The funny part is that I had never run a campaign, I set one up over 2 years ago and decided against running it. Now, after making millions from advertisers promoting this product they have decided to ban it and anyone who has ever advertised them, including me, who argued with G man cut and paste replier that I had never activated the campaign.

        After careful consideration they are not prepared to discuss it any longer.

        Well after careful consideration I am going to start using FB more...

        Bad luck Tiff, I hope you find a away to retrieve these videos.
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonthewebmaster
    Banned
    Youtube banned one of my accounts because I posted a video on "How to Improve Sexual Performance and STop Erectile Dysfunction"

    (It's for a client that owns a bunch of male ED clinics)

    I guess the google trolls thought I was promoting sex???

    This crap is why YouTube will not always be #1 video site...

    Why don't we start a "FREE SPEECH" version of youtube or something? WHO'S WITH ME!!
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  • Profile picture of the author LB
    Google is the only company allowed to make money on the internet.

    You serfs need to get back on the digital plantation and start clicking on their ads so they can meet their quarterly earnings.

    Remember, Youtube "quality" is big-breasted women in bikinis and dogs farting. Just like "quality" on Adwords is ringtone ads and comparison shopping sites.

    Google is doubleplusgood!
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    Ah but Tiffany, don't you see? Teaching people how to create their own personal economy, that can be expanded as much as they want, is not something to be put up with. Rather, you should just be a drone like so many others, and do what a company/CEO/boss/manager tells you for 40+ years and then at the end politely die and not make too much fuss. Oh don't forget the taxes please. If you've got a solid small business, you get tax breaks, can't have that either..so best to ban anything related to actually teaching people how to be self-sufficient.

    Wow...that was a lot more "rant-ish" than I thought. I see it up here in Canada a lot and it drives me mental. People look at me like I've got two heads because I cut the cable completely, went with Boxee/Netflix and only watch a couple of hours of TV a week (most of which are educational, none of which are sports). Charting your own path can certainly be....interesting.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Tiff, all my home made videos were canned months ago before the shakeup.

      Some of the best free content you'll find without even a sales link or pitch
      in them.

      Google can kiss my ass and burn in hell.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post


        Google can kiss my ass and burn in hell.
        But tell me how you really feel Steven.
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        • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
          Originally Posted by Jill Carpenter View Post

          But tell me how you really feel Steven.
          If I told you how I really felt, I'd have to kill you.
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          • Profile picture of the author nubchai
            Sorry to hear that Tiffany. If you violated one of their community rules they should at least tel you what rule that is before deleting your account.
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            • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
              Originally Posted by nubchai View Post

              Sorry to hear that Tiffany. If you violated one of their community rules they should at least tel you what rule that is before deleting your account.
              Millions of users.

              Free use of their facilities.

              So, you think they should contact every last person who they decide to ban and tell them everything the did wrong?

              (btw, I was subscribed to Tiff's channel, so this is in no way suggesting she did anything I would perceive as wrong.)
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              • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
                Originally Posted by Jill Carpenter View Post

                Millions of users.

                Free use of their facilities.

                So, you think they should contact every last person who they decide to ban and tell them everything the did wrong?
                Yes.

                The thing is that either a person is flipping a switch or an automated system is doing it.

                If it's a person, then that person knows why the account is being terminated. If they can push a button to terminate an account, they can select a checkbox as to the reason and send a form letter eMail. Perhaps they don't need to do that in every case. I mean, there are cases where someone is an obvious spammer. But, in other cases, certainly it's not unreasonable for them to provide a reason.

                If it's an automated system, then the same algorithm that determined an account is in violation also knows what was violated in order to make that determination and, thus, can send an automated message indicating the violation.
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              • Profile picture of the author matt5409
                Originally Posted by Jill Carpenter View Post

                Millions of users.

                Free use of their facilities.

                So, you think they should contact every last person who they decide to ban and tell them everything the did wrong?

                (btw, I was subscribed to Tiff's channel, so this is in no way suggesting she did anything I would perceive as wrong.)
                yes! adwords have a system in place, when a campaign is denied. it is manually denied and a "stock" reason is given (very ballpark, but it gives an inkling).

                this is a very silly move by google - sure, remove a load of accounts but provide some reasons. i'm annoyed, and i only use YT as a viewer!
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            • Profile picture of the author Gail_Curran
              OK, somebody smart should create a report/tutorial on how to do effective video marketing without using Youtube, and run it as a WSO. PM me when it's ready.

              Please and thank you.
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              • Profile picture of the author Kay King
                Every free platform seems to come to the same conclusion as YT about the "make money" niche. I don't think that's a coincidence. WE know some people offer help and advice and great information that can help others get started with a business online.

                We also know the number of scammers, spammers and idiots in the make money arena. How many brand new marketers start out by promoting make money products?

                At some point we need to look ahead instead of being reactive. Use any platforms you can for as long as you can. But keep building up your own sites as well and don't rely on OPS (other people's sites) to provide your income.

                We've seen the rules tightened at Squidoo, Hubpages, Blogger, and now YouTube. Whenever there is a platform that might be useful to get customers for your make money services or advice - it will be overrun with crappy offers and the result is everyone is slapped.

                I don't think this is the last of the YT cleanup as I do believe other niches will be similarly restricted. I can understand why "make money" is a place to start the cleanup, though. It's a niche where anyone participating has an agenda of some kind. It may be sales - or list building - or branding...but there's a plan in place.

                I object to the message YT is leaving on closed accounts - it's like they hit you upside the head and then insult you as well.

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                • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
                  Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

                  I object to the message YT is leaving on closed accounts - it's like they hit you upside the head and then insult you as well.
                  Squidoo uses a similar message.
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                • Profile picture of the author matt5409
                  Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

                  Every free platform seems to come to the same conclusion as YT about the "make money" niche. I don't think that's a coincidence. WE know some people offer help and advice and great information that can help others get started with a business online.

                  We also know the number of scammers, spammers and idiots in the make money arena. How many brand new marketers start out by promoting make money products?

                  At some point we need to look ahead instead of being reactive. Use any platforms you can for as long as you can. But keep building up your own sites as well and don't rely on OPS (other people's sites) to provide your income.

                  We've seen the rules tightened at Squidoo, Hubpages, Blogger, and now YouTube. Whenever there is a platform that might be useful to get customers for your make money services or advice - it will be overrun with crappy offers and the result is everyone is slapped.

                  I don't think this is the last of the YT cleanup as I do believe other niches will be similarly restricted. I can understand why "make money" is a place to start the cleanup, though. It's a niche where anyone participating has an agenda of some kind. It may be sales - or list building - or branding...but there's a plan in place.

                  I object to the message YT is leaving on closed accounts - it's like they hit you upside the head and then insult you as well.

                  Kay
                  this makes sense but lol - never seen anybody abbreviate to OPS though
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          • Profile picture of the author Internet Cowgirl
            First there was Squidoo banning accounts and deleting lenses, then Google terminating Adwords accounts, then the Panda Update, and now it's YouTube.

            Affiliate marketing is getting so tough anymore - if you're not already a Big Box store then you're out of luck as far as the SERPs and many other channels now.

            I'm really, truly sorry to hear about your videos, Tiff.
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    • Profile picture of the author business4moms
      Wow Tiff, that is amazingly sad - I wish I didn't learn so much from you and the bad things that big internet people do to you! (Just saved all my youtube videos to a safe place!) I remember something else like this happened to you a while back (maybe a year or so ago) and I learned from you then too (I think you lost a bunch of hosted pages or something - sorry if I'm bringing up bad memories!) But you blew through that one and came back better than ever - I know you'll rebound from this one too - but yikes - I feel for you and I'll be praying for you on this for an amazingly wildly positive outcome for you! Thanks for always helping and always sharing and I hope you had fun swimming!
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      • Profile picture of the author TiffanyLambert
        Originally Posted by business4moms View Post

        Wow Tiff, that is amazingly sad - I wish I didn't learn so much from you and the bad things that big internet people do to you! (Just saved all my youtube videos to a safe place!) I remember something else like this happened to you a while back (maybe a year or so ago) and I learned from you then too (I think you lost a bunch of hosted pages or something - sorry if I'm bringing up bad memories!) But you blew through that one and came back better than ever - I know you'll rebound from this one too - but yikes - I feel for you and I'll be praying for you on this for an amazingly wildly positive outcome for you! Thanks for always helping and always sharing and I hope you had fun swimming!
        Thanks Ahh yes that was a blogger blog I had created during a review and all that content was gone in a flash. Who owns blogger.com by the way? Is it google? LOL!

        But that was a bearded dragon blog so I was annoyed but not as pissed as this.
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        • Profile picture of the author Caleb Spilchen
          Originally Posted by TiffanyDow View Post

          Thanks Ahh yes that was a blogger blog I had created during a review and all that content was gone in a flash. Who owns blogger.com by the way? Is it google? LOL!

          But that was a bearded dragon blog so I was annoyed but not as pissed as this.
          Well Google owns blogger too...

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        • Profile picture of the author strategic
          In the past when I have created accounts for my seo/sem clients and loaded some very informative audio articles in visually appealing video formats, the account would suddenly get closed - eg Russian dating, and that totally baffled me as the audio articles were helpful information about dating, not Russian etc specific.

          Same sometimes happened with some really top quality and helpful free reports published on Scribd or Docstoc (for seo/sem linkbacks) - I think that niche business competitors just cruise the net looking for ways to close down the profiles/accounts of their strongest online competitors.

          re: "make money" topic videos, first Squidoo banned any Make Money/credit cards/loans/MLM type subject content on lenses, then after Panda, Hubs also banned anything even remotely MLM on pages (and anything linking to an ebook sales page - WTH??) and now YouTube joins them in banning anything to do with making money. Yes there is some total rubbish posted on the subject --- so just don't approve it to go online in the first place, but leave the good quality relevant content online.

          So now I don't dare to go see if my own personal YouTube account is still online *sigh* I must have created and loaded a ton of video articles on it over the years.

          I'm lucky that I save all my videos before they get uploaded to YouTube, just like I do with my free report publishing etc. It would be crazy not to for all that work.

          I wonder Tiff if you already forgot what happened last time you had a bad encounter with YouTube?

          You had a super successful video which was getting tons of traffic (about Squidoo I think), so YouTube contacted you to invite you to participate in the Google ad revenue share ---- which you did ---- and then they immediately banned & deleted the very same video they were singing the praises of a day earlier!?!?!

          WTH is going on with these evil people at Google?

          C'mon warriors! I think a privately owned video directory that has CLEAR guidelines and rules, that don't change & delete content retrospectively, and has human editors to approve/deny the videos BEFORE they go online and get optimised (to prevent the sp@mmyy cr@p), would be able to make a killing, like the privately owned article directories and blogs are doing at the moment, post eza.

          People are paying these article directories $67 a month membership to post their approved content online - so why not a couple of top quality privately owned video directories offering similar memberships?

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          • Profile picture of the author TiffanyLambert
            Originally Posted by strategic View Post

            I wonder Tiff if you already forgot what happened last time you had a bad encounter with YouTube?

            You had a super successful video which was getting tons of traffic (about Squidoo I think), so YouTube contacted you to invite you to participate in the Google ad revenue share ---- which you did ---- and then they immediately banned & deleted the very same video they were singing the praises of a day earlier!?!?!
            Helene Malmsio
            Yes that was a make money on Squidoo video too. LOL! They invited me for revenue sharing and I accepted and it was deleted. LOL! Maybe they're schizophrenic?

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  • Profile picture of the author Alessandro Zamboni
    Hi Tiffany, the strange thing is today at least 5 internet marketers sent me e-mail about deletion of their Youtube account.
    All their videos were about internet marketing or social media, and someone said it was because of the word "Youtube" included in video title, bit at this point I don't know if Youtube is kicking out from its network all internet marketers.

    I go to check if my videos are online or not... Brrrr...
    Bye,
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  • Profile picture of the author thejennypincher
    That really really sux Tiff, sorry to hear about that! I also enjoyed your videos
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Bush
    Too Bad Tiffany. In Illinois amazon.com refuses to have affiliates because of our anti business governor and taxing the internet sales. Possibly you will be able to convince them of their ways. Facebook deleted Sitesell and they were able to argue their side of it and get back on. Time to put the camo on be a warrior. Thank you for letting us know.
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  • Profile picture of the author blueclcl
    So,any videos on making money will now be banned?

    Is that right?
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  • Profile picture of the author Alastair McDermott
    Here's the message it shows for me:

    Originally Posted by http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=961mHqF-P5A

    This video has been removed as a violation of YouTube's policy against spam, scams and commercially deceptive content.
    Sorry about that.
    Not very nice at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author PPV Guru
    I've had 3 of my Youtube accounts banned a while back. Apparently the FTC is even effecting that as well when they changed the regulations a little bit a year or two ago. I guess they feel that most people posting videos in the make money online niche are scammers (and I agree that most are) so they started attacking everyone, even the good people.

    But same time I find is absurd seeing that there are tons of inappropriate videos around youtube that never get banned. I've seen videos with excessive cursing and uses of the N word and so on that NEVER get banned (and i'm not making it a race thing just making a point). In my opinion, those types of videos are a little more detrimental than talking about the financial future of someone struggling in an economy that the government and mega monopoly companies help to sabotage.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
    Well,

    Let me do a quick check up on Youtube:

    Fight videos? Check
    Gore Videos: Check
    Sexual videos: Check
    Racial videos: Check
    Strong language videos: Check
    Stolen Copyright videos: Check

    Make money online: Not check.
    Make money at home: Not check.

    ...

    Google creating blackhatters again.
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  • Profile picture of the author PPV Guru
    Google is going crazy but its not the only game in town (thank God). There are plenty of other sites you can put your videos on or you can just bite the bullet and get Easy Video Player and use Amazon S3 or get your own video site with a script like Clipshare or a free one like PHP Motion and host the videos yourself.

    I have all of the above at the moment because it's better to pay extra money to control your accounts. I'd never again use Youtube or a third party video script to run my videos anymore.
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  • Profile picture of the author Caleb Spilchen
    Tiff,

    The worst part is most of us would rather listen to your Squidoo tips then Rebecca Black's Friday Video.. But whose the one getting banned?

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  • Profile picture of the author GameVoid
    No anger at the the thousands of IM'ers whose shady practices and wild claims brought the FTC into our little pool in the first place? For every Tiffany Dow on youtube there were 10 more idiots promoting make money scams. It is unfortunate that youtube did not take the time to review every video, but from a business standpoint they did the right thing. Google doesn't want the FTC looking too closely at them so they are cleaning their house up and it doesn't matter how many babies get tossed out with the bathwater.

    But it still surprises me that when one of these big social media companies delete a bunch of IM accounts no one ever casts an eye on the guy on your right and left advertising 10,000 facebook likes for $5.00 or encouraging you to hire some poor schlub in a far off land to "Like", +1, or retweet your site 200 times.
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    • Profile picture of the author Lisa RRB
      Originally Posted by GameVoid View Post

      No anger at the the thousands of IM'ers whose shady practices and wild claims brought the FTC into our little pool in the first place? For every Tiffany Dow on youtube there were 10 more idiots promoting make money scams. It is unfortunate that youtube did not take the time to review every video, but from a business standpoint they did the right thing. Google doesn't want the FTC looking too closely at them so they are cleaning their house up and it doesn't matter how many babies get tossed out with the bathwater.

      But it still surprises me that when one of these big social media companies delete a bunch of IM accounts no one ever casts an eye on the guy on your right and left advertising 10,000 facebook likes for $5.00 or encouraging you to hire some poor schlub in a far off land to "Like", +1, or retweet your site 200 times.
      In every group there will always be bad apples. Just because most 'make money online' are scams does not mean that we should remove all 'make money online' websites. To a certain extent Google has no control over your personal sites though. Most of the anger is at Google and YT because in essence they are preying on those who don't have a lot of money. If you want to make videos for your site now it now has a higher financial cost then it used to.
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  • Profile picture of the author Caleb Spilchen
    >> People are paying these article directories $67 a month membership to post their approved content online - so why not a couple of top quality privately owned video directories offering similar memberships?


    The problem is TRAFFIC, youtube has search traffic, from youtube search, which is one of the biggest search engines (not just video) online.

    You lose that advantage elsewhere.
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  • Profile picture of the author evergreengirl
    Wow. I am just reeling in shock. I don't have the number of You Tube videos invested as some other marketers here, and luckily none in the IM niche. But I really feel for my fellow marketers who have lost so much...
    We must find a way to pull together and share ideas for a solution. The Amazon S3 one is the only I've thought of so far, and yes it's too bad it isn't free.
    What else is there?
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  • Profile picture of the author jms.mrtn
    So sorry to hear about what happened to you. It's unfortunate because your a champion of how to ethically make money online. After reading your post and seeing others wrongly lose accounts. I've decided that I must absolutely control all of my content. I'll no longer seek free services it appears the real cost could your business livelihood!
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    • Profile picture of the author cyberdenizen
      From YouTube: "TiffanyDow has been terminated due to multiple or severe violations of our Community Guidelines." WTH???

      I ran a search on YouTube for videos with the phrase "make money online." Some of them are still there and a lot of them are crappy! That's so unfair! I loved Tiffany's videos.
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      • Profile picture of the author PPV Guru
        Originally Posted by cyberdenizen View Post

        From YouTube: "TiffanyDow has been terminated due to multiple or severe violations of our Community Guidelines." WTH???

        I ran a search on YouTube for videos with the phrase "make money online." Some of them are still there and a lot of them are crappy! That's so unfair! I loved Tiffany's videos.
        Thats what social networks do to you when they want to demonize you for something that they can't profit from. In the end, it's all about how much more money Youtube/Google can make.

        You have to realize that 3 years ago, YT was making 20 million a month but paying 12 million a month in overhead...that means they were losing a TON of money and were facing extinction.

        So their answer was to create more ad opportunities and introduce the video ad slots. The next thing they did was get rid of people getting "free" advertising by posting viral videos promoting their products. This is why you can advertise a make money online type of video, but you can't post it to your profile anymore.

        Plus they changed their TOS and made it a violation if you had videos on their promoting a product in the past and didn't take them down by a certain time after the TOS change or if you posted NEW videos promoting a product.

        In the end, this is just another Google slap that is designed to make them more money at the expense of the user.
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      • Profile picture of the author lkpub
        Sorry to hear that Tiff... you've been such an inspiration and help to so many... totally sucks...

        Unfortunately, Google has become such a giant they seem to have lost their perspective and concern for the people who got them there... Now they come across more as a ruthless monster that no one can stop... It's unfortunate so many people put their trust in them... they end up being punished for it eventually...

        Google is notorious for constantly changing their TOS on a whim and deleting accounts whenever they feel like it without warning or explanation... after all, they're the internet "gods" and answer to no one... sad... really sad to see so many innocent people suffer as a result... especially good people like yourself Tiff... ={

        On a side note tho, I see some great opportunities here that can really benefit a savvy marketer and marketers in general from all this Google BS...

        Just some food for thought...
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        • Profile picture of the author Kay King
          Tiffany -

          I hope you used the appropriate finger when you told YT "bye bye"
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          • Profile picture of the author Kay King
            Unfortunately, Google has become such a giant they seem to have lost their perspective and concern for the people who got them there... Now they come across more as a ruthless monster that no one can stop... It's unfortunate so many people put their trust in them... they end up being punished for it eventually...
            Because it affects our business directly, we tend to cry "foul" and I don't think that's fair.

            The people who "made" YouTube so popular are not make money marketers - they are normal folks who share interesting and funny videos. YT has some immensely entertaining and educational videos and the other side of the coin is protecting the average YT visitor from being sold to every time they click "play".

            We don't like the policy - but we don't own the site.
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            • Profile picture of the author lkpub
              Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

              Because it affects our business directly, we tend to cry "foul" and I don't think that's fair.

              The people who "made" YouTube so popular are not make money marketers - they are normal folks who share interesting and funny videos. YT has some immensely entertaining and educational videos and the other side of the coin is protecting the average YT visitor from being sold to every time they click "play".

              We don't like the policy - but we don't own the site.
              By people, I meant the general public, not just marketers or business people... I've seen many good and serious bloggers lose their accounts on Google and they don't do any marketing at all... I was referring to people in general and Google in general... sorry for any confusion...

              And let's not forget, marketers have gone a long way to making Google as profitable as it is too...
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  • Profile picture of the author James Brown
    Sorry to hear about this Tiffany

    Your videos will be sorely missed!

    Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author Serendipitous
    I'd like to suggest people use Blip.TV. Way better service, period.



    Edit: Fixed site.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
      Originally Posted by Serendipitous View Post

      I'd like to suggest people use Blip.com. Way better service, period.
      Apparently the site is down at the moment.
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      • Profile picture of the author Serendipitous
        Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

        Apparently the site is down at the moment.
        oops.. That's Blip.TV..


        My bad.
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  • Profile picture of the author matt5409
    Originally Posted by TiffanyDow View Post

    Guess I better go back and read through Harlan's post a little more thoroughly. My "4 ways to make money on Squidoo" video got me banned. All my videos gone.

    How'd I find out?

    A subscriber left me a note on my blog. Nice way to wake up.
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    what the hell? I was sticking up for Google/youtube on here a couple of days ago because somebody was complaining that their "SEO" videos got their account banned. I put this down to them being crap/spam.

    But I've seen your videos - they're not spammy. In fact, I remember the one about your Amazon/Clickbank stuff to be quite informational.

    If I were you, I'd be hitting Google with a good few emails demanding an explanation.
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  • Profile picture of the author DigitalMax
    The bigger they are the harder they will fall (YouTube) They may realize this when everyone moves to another video site. That is awefull Tiff what they did to you and others. Purely asinine. (Hope I can say asinine on the WF)
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  • Profile picture of the author Carol_A
    I am so sorry to hear this - hope somehow it turns around and you are able to open up dialogue to at least get your content back.

    The warning is noted; checking my YouTube account and making sure mine are backed up.

    Thanks for sharing this sad and frustrating experience so the rest of us can have a heads up.
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  • Profile picture of the author Carol Owens
    So sorry Tiff. I have always found your videos very helpful, not scammy.
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  • Profile picture of the author MsKeshaOnline
    Originally Posted by TiffanyDow View Post

    Guess I better go back and read through Harlan's post a little more thoroughly. My "4 ways to make money on Squidoo" video got me banned. All my videos gone.

    How'd I find out?

    A subscriber left me a note on my blog. Nice way to wake up.
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    Hi Tiffany,

    Sorry to hear about that! The crazy thing is, I just opened up a Youtube account for one of my projects on yesterday. I have been looking at Amazon S3 and also Mark Fail has a Wordpress Theme called "Movie Theme" at Premiumpress.com. I have to do more research to see what will work best and try to plan out bandwidth usage. I really enjoyed watching your Youtube videos. Many times, I had an issue and was able to get the answers or information from your videos.
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  • Profile picture of the author BloggingPro
    All of this YouTube stuff the last few days has been perplexing to say the least. I frequent several indie film making forums and it looks like marketers aren't the only ones getting banned. A forum lit up yesterday morning with people saying their videos were yanked and their accounts were banned. The videos were short films!

    It would also seem that they are cracking down on those lyric videos for really popular songs.

    As for me I don't have anything "making money" related, however I do have a many videos that promote certain products with picture slideshows. I'll be eagerly watching them to see if they get pulled within the next few weeks.

    Sorry to hear about your tough luck Tiffany.
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    No reason to start a second thread about the same subject -- let's use the other thread.
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