Did any Warriors ever hire a writer to create a eBook product?

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I am researching launching my first product next month and came across a few warriors for hire that write eBook products.

Has anyone ever used this service? I consider myself a pretty good writer but don´t have much experience with copywriting. I am wondering if hiring a warrior to write an eBook would make a difference to the product success.

I appreciate any opinions and feedback
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  • Profile picture of the author Chri5123
    I have outsourced creation of product but normally only do this when it is not something that I know a lot about. If it is a product that you KNOW about i.e a technique, process then it is best you write it as you have the knowledge.

    If it is something like "How to be a maser at quantum physics" it is best to get someone that knows the subject if you know what I mean?

    As long as you research though, it is always a gamble but you can outsource creation of products, yes.

    Chris
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    • Profile picture of the author BabyMama
      Originally Posted by Chri5123 View Post

      I have outsourced creation of product but normally only do this when it is not something that I know a lot about. If it is a product that you KNOW about i.e a technique, process then it is best you write it as you have the knowledge.

      If it is something like "How to be a maser at quantum physics" it is best to get someone that knows the subject if you know what I mean?

      As long as you research though, it is always a gamble but you can outsource creation of products, yes.

      Chris
      Thanks for your reply Chris. Yes thats makes sense if you don´t know much about the topic it can save you time and effort by outsourcing to an expert.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
    In the past I have hired someone to ghost write an ebook for me in a non-internet marketing niche and here are my experiences:

    1. Create a layout of what you want included in the book.
    Do some research and create a table of contents from what people in your niche want to know.

    2. Keep it simple.
    Don't let your ghost writer guess at what you want. Keep the table of contents simple, you can always change the chapter titles later.

    3. Send an overview video with a complete description of what you are thinking about for this project.

    4. Invite any and all questions the ghost writer may have about the project and be able to be contacted easily.

    When I received my ebook I went through it, added additional content to it, made it flow how I wanted and spent time on a quality layout of the content.

    It's always a good idea to edit the ebook once you get it and polish it to your own specifications.

    That's what I've done in the past and everything worked out great. I didn't have the time to write the product nor did I know much about the niche. Well at least not enough to write a quality product myself. But when I got the ghost written book I did some more research to add more information and my own personal flare.

    Be weary of a ghost writer using PLR material purchased from somewhere else. This can be a problem but if you conduct your due diligence this will not be an issue.

    Mike Hill
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  • Profile picture of the author Alfredo Carrion
    I like to outsource my content (including articles and ebooks) because my english is terrible; there are great writers in the Warriors for Hire section (I really enjoyed working with warrior Monika Mundell).


    Mike give you some really good advice in his post, follow it and you'll be ok.

    And, please, when choosing a writer, don't go for the cheaper one, because you could end waiting months for your ebook or with a crappy ebook nobody will want. I'm talking from experience, lol.
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    • Profile picture of the author BabyMama
      Originally Posted by Alfredo Carrion View Post

      I like to outsource my content (including articles and ebooks) because my english is terrible; there are great writers in the Warriors for Hire section (I really enjoyed working with warrior Monika Mundell).


      Mike give you some really good advice in his post, follow it and you'll be ok.

      And, please, when choosing a writer, don't go for the cheaper one, because you could end waiting months for your ebook or with a crappy ebook nobody will want. I'm talking from experience, lol.
      Thanks for the tips. I will have a look at Monika Mudell. Thanks for the recommendations
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  • Profile picture of the author BabyMama
    Great advice Mike Hill. Thanks these are definatly points I will keep in consideration if I do decide to hire a writer.

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author GregSilva
    I'm also interested in having some of my product creation outsourced in the future. Thanks for the tips here everyone!
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  • Profile picture of the author WebsiteDeck
    I actually prefer to write things myself, its the only way I can remain sure that everything that goes in the book is perfect according to my specifications - although I would have no problem hiring someone to spice up the look of the ebook. I would just want to do the content of it myself.
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    • Profile picture of the author BabyMama
      Originally Posted by WebsiteDeck View Post

      I actually prefer to write things myself, its the only way I can remain sure that everything that goes in the book is perfect according to my specifications - although I would have no problem hiring someone to spice up the look of the ebook. I would just want to do the content of it myself.
      This seems like an honest way to do business. If you are an expert in a subject then I think its a good idea to write it yourself. I have however read some interesting threads on this forum about outsourcing and really wanted some warriors opionions on how much they would outsource. Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Rose Anderson
    I have written a lot of ebooks for other people and I would 2nd what Mike said.

    Make sure they know exactly what you want. Keep in contact with them if you want to see on-going drafts. Tell them which web-sites you're wanting to promote.

    Give them a reasonable time-frame to work with. Especially if they're doing all the research for you.
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    • Profile picture of the author BabyMama
      Originally Posted by Rose Anderson View Post

      I have written a lot of ebooks for other people and I would 2nd what Mike said.

      Make sure they know exactly what you want. Keep in contact with them if you want to see on-going drafts. Tell them which web-sites you're wanting to promote.

      Give them a reasonable time-frame to work with. Especially if they're doing all the research for you.
      Thanks Rose, I had a look in your signature and you seem to be offering a good deal. You haven´t however linked it to a service thread?
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      • Profile picture of the author geraldsoh
        Maybe you can hire some ghostwriter at elance.com or odesk.com. there are 1000s of writers and ghostwriters there to choose from. u can view their stats, reviews etc to justify how good they are before you hire them.

        cheers!
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        • Profile picture of the author BabyMama
          Originally Posted by geraldsoh View Post

          Maybe you can hire some ghostwriter at elance.com or odesk.com. there are 1000s of writers and ghostwriters there to choose from. u can view their stats, reviews etc to justify how good they are before you hire them.

          cheers!
          I have hired from oDesk before but I find it really hard to find good writers there. You get sooooo many bad ones. Even when you ask for native english writers you still get a load of people who arnt native english applying.
          I will look on the forum here for someone not oDesk.
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          • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
            Has anyone ever used this service? I consider myself a pretty good writer but don´t have much experience with copywriting
            Be careful not to confuse a copywriter with a content writer.

            While there are some cross breeds out there, they can be two different animals.
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            • Profile picture of the author NicoleBeckett
              Originally Posted by Jill Carpenter View Post

              Be careful not to confuse a copywriter with a content writer.

              While there are some cross breeds out there, they can be two different animals.
              Exactly... an ebook full of copywriting isn't going to provide a whole lot of value (really, can you imagine reading 20 or 50 pages of sales copy?? I sure can't!)

              What you need is someone that can write an ebook based on solidly-researched facts (that truly gives your readers answers and solutions that they didn't have before they started reading). You can always get a copywriter to help promote the book, but leave that style of writing for promotion, instead of the meat of your book
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          • Profile picture of the author jbsmith
            I have often outsourced portions of our info products to others, but never the entire project....I like to make sure there is still a personal aspect to my products that makes them different than those of generic info products on the market.

            There are a few techniques I've used.

            1. Outsource a chapter or two - I've done this as outsourced articles with very precise questions to be answered. If you outsource sections of your ebook as "article" projects you can reduce the cost significantly. The key is to make sure your outsource freelancer knows you want specific content (send them a question by question outline) as they are often used to doing SEO (keyword focused) general articles which don't make for good content.
            I typically look for people that have experience AND writing ability with the topic so they can add their personal touch to the ebook as well

            2. Interviews - I have also created entire ebooks as well as enhanced with chapters that were the transcription of a telephone interview with an expert. That way they don't have to write, they talk and you get dozens of pages of great content

            3. Public domain. On occasion I have found historical works in the public domain that enhance my ebooks., For example, one ebook I wrote was on a specific benefit of Yoga (applied to a common societal problem) and I wanted a short chapter on the history of Yoga...I found that quickly in the public domain, cleaned it up and used it for that chapter.

            Hope that helps,

            Jeff
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            • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
              A lot of people who write decent articles tend to get the heebie-jeebies at the idea of writing an entire ebook - and it's not that hard!

              The key is to start with a really good and detailed outline. Once you have that, each point is like writing one article. You can even skip around while you're writing it.

              When you're finished, go back and read it. Add in some introductory or transitional writing if necessary to make it flow. Make sure there is an introduction to the concepts discussed in the book at the beginning and a conclusion at the end.

              Once that's all set, you can dress it up with graphics/photos/screenshots, tip boxes, etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ansar Pasha
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    IMO, if you're just starting out, it might be a little much to drop a few grand getting your products sorted.

    You might even try finding some quality PLR and rewriting it the way you speak so it's not dry and boring like most PLR's are... however, if you can afford a good writer, go for outsourcing.

    Ansar
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    • Profile picture of the author BabyMama
      Originally Posted by Ansar Pasha View Post

      IMO, if you're just starting out, it might be a little much to drop a few grand getting your products sorted.

      You might even try finding some quality PLR and rewriting it the way you speak so it's not dry and boring like most PLR's are... however, if you can afford a good writer, go for outsourcing.

      Ansar
      I will definatly try it myself first time around. I think I am a pretty good writer I just wondered if people actually did outsource product creation. It may be something to consider for the future.

      Thanks for all your advice.
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  • Profile picture of the author travin69
    I just did this. I hired someone from fiverr.com to do the research for 5 dollars. Made a rough design and then hired 99cent to make it original. It is worth it. You can focus your time on website, sales copy, ect.
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  • Profile picture of the author TracyNeedham
    On the flip side of having written ebooks for people, I can tell you one of the advantages of having someone else do it (as long as they know what they're doing LOL) can be...

    --Making sure the ebook helps build your relationship with the customer and helps you build your business in other ways

    --Making sure you've covered exactly what it takes to do something (if you've done it a lot yourself, you'll often assume people know how to do things) and/or explain things a total newbie might not know

    --Pointing out other ideas and content that would make it even better--especially faster and easier for your customers

    --Giving you ideas for bonuses and add-ons that increase the value of your ebook (so you can charge more)

    --Etc.

    Can you tell I love info product creation? LOL I actually created a WSO with Mark Hess on this very topic because it's one of my favorites!

    Anyway, if you do write it yourself, keep those things above in mind--maybe you can have friends or family who don't know the topic go through it and give you some ideas for what needs to be added and whatnot.
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    • Profile picture of the author BabyMama
      Great to hear it from a writers POV. Thanks for that Tracy.
      Its a great point about making sure to include every point to doing something. I have found when I was a newbie that a lot of products tended to miss steps that were vital. As a newbie there is so much that needs to be outlined.

      Originally Posted by TracyNeedham View Post

      On the flip side of having written ebooks for people, I can tell you one of the advantages of having someone else do it (as long as they know what they're doing LOL) can be...

      --Making sure the ebook helps build your relationship with the customer and helps you build your business in other ways

      --Making sure you've covered exactly what it takes to do something (if you've done it a lot yourself, you'll often assume people know how to do things) and/or explain things a total newbie might not know

      --Pointing out other ideas and content that would make it even better--especially faster and easier for your customers

      --Giving you ideas for bonuses and add-ons that increase the value of your ebook (so you can charge more)

      --Etc.

      Can you tell I love info product creation? LOL I actually created a WSO with Mark Hess on this very topic because it's one of my favorites!

      Anyway, if you do write it yourself, keep those things above in mind--maybe you can have friends or family who don't know the topic go through it and give you some ideas for what needs to be added and whatnot.
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  • Profile picture of the author BabyMama
    I think actually the 99cent they were refering to is a service offered in the warrior for hire section that offers articles for 99cent.
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    • Profile picture of the author taniharjo
      Originally Posted by BabyMama View Post

      I think actually the 99cent they were refering to is a service offered in the warrior for hire section that offers articles for 99cent.
      99cent for articles? how bad can it be?
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