Who is the best articles sales person in this forum and outside?

tpw

14 years ago

I am not "old" yet, so I will await an answer from my elders.

The older folks will be waking up in a few hours.

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sanssecret 14 years ago

Define 'old':confused:
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  I'd like to know the same as well....
  
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  Define 'old':confused:
  
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Chris Worner

14 years ago

I'm 23 years old

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sbucciarel

Banned 14 years ago

You don't get to accept or deny answers when you open a thread.

Just saying ... anyone who wants to answer can, but most likely you're just going to get responses about being old now.

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Nicola Lane

14 years ago

Congratulations 7eclair!

You have managed to:

a) Ask a completely non-sensical question!
b) Piss off all the people who might have been able to figure out what you were actually asking and then give you a sensible answer.
c) Make sure that this is going to be one of those silly threads that people just point and laugh at.
d) Make me really want to eat a chocolate and cream pastry.

Well done! Brilliant move!

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Istvan Horvath

14 years ago

Originally Posted by 7eclair

Accept only answers from old Warriors.

On your own forum/blog/site. Not here! You are NOT in position to set conditions who can reply to your thread.

I am old enough but will not answer nonsense questions.

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Rose Anderson

14 years ago

Well...I am fairly old...but I'm not going to answer 'cause I don't like being called old.

I am going to eat chocolate and cream pastry, though.

Plus, I don't understand your question.

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Ralph Moore

14 years ago

Hi 7eclair,

As to the old Warrior aspect, I probably qualify.

Now, what is the question?

Are you asking who sells the most articles than anyone else?
(and how would we get that information?)

Or are you asking for references to the best high-quality PLR or "ghost writer" type article author?

Inquiring minds generally want to know what your specific question might be.

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Chri5123

14 years ago

I am considered an elder!

The ripe old age of 31! Does this count?

Why not check out Make Money Online by writing articles for other people's websites. it seems quite an awesome concept.

Really though if people have found writers that are GOLD - which in my experience are hard to find you will not normally get people giving their gold nuggets away.

Most writers will give you samples so it is just a case of filtering through the rubbish until you find a winner.

Chris

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Alan Ashwood

14 years ago

I don't have a problem with being called old. I'm considered a dinosaur in our house.

They say the first thing that goes when you're old, is your memory ....

I can't remember what the second thing is :confused:

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Alex Kage

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Alan Ashwood

I don't have a problem with being called old. I'm considered a dinosaur in our house.

They say the first thing that goes when you're old, is your memory ....

I can't remember what the second thing is :confused:

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Those lines made my day.

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Melanie Crouse

14 years ago

Well, I FEEL pretty old today, with all my aches and pains...and I'm a writer...

Does that qualify me to answer?

Now if only I understood the question...

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Rsberg

14 years ago

I love some of the threads (and more so the replies) we see on this forum...

Too funny!

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affilcrazy

14 years ago

Originally Posted by 7eclair

Who is the best on selling high quality articles? Accept only answers from old Warriors.

Unfortunately, I only answer questions from middle-aged Warriors...

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Dan C. Rinnert

14 years ago

Originally Posted by 7eclair

Who is the best on selling high quality articles? Accept only answers from old Warriors.

I think I may qualify, but I'm so old I can't remember. Sorry.

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sbucciarel

Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by tpw

I am not "old" yet, so I will await an answer from my elders.

The older folks will be waking up in a few hours.

Originally Posted by Chris Worner

I'm 23 years old

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Originally Posted by Rose Anderson

Well...I am fairly old...but I'm not going to answer 'cause I don't like being called old.

I am going to eat chocolate and cream pastry, though.

Plus, I don't understand your question.

Originally Posted by eagle

Hi 7eclair,

As to the old Warrior aspect, I probably qualify.

Originally Posted by Chri5123

I am considered an elder!

The ripe old age of 31! Does this count?
Chris

Originally Posted by Melanie Crouse

Well, I FEEL pretty old today, with all my aches and pains...and I'm a writer...

Does that qualify me to answer?

Now if only I understood the question...

Originally Posted by affilcrazy

Unfortunately, I only answer questions from middle-aged Warriors...

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Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert

I think I may qualify, but I'm so old I can't remember. Sorry.

@7eclair .... now see what you've done.

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7eclair

14 years ago

I really sorry for the confusion I might have caused out. I must say that when I write old I mean the best selling person with the most sales.

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tpw 14 years ago

Originally Posted by 7eclair

I must say that when I write old I mean the best selling person with the most sales.

There is no way any of us can know the answer to that question.

No one publishes those numbers.

So, how would I know if Alexa or any of the other distinguished writers on this thread have written more articles than I have? Or supervised the creation of more articles than I have?

LOL
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rosetrees 14 years ago

Originally Posted by 7eclair

I really sorry for the confusion I might have caused out. I must say that when I write old I mean the best selling person with the most sales.

How would anyone be able to tell you how many articles someone else has sold?

I can answer for myself. I don't write articles for other people.
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Adie

14 years ago

Originally Posted by 7eclair

Who is the best on selling high quality articles? Accept only answers from old Warriors.

Old in age or old in membership?

Originally Posted by 7eclair

I really sorry for the confusion I might have caused out. I must say that when I write old I mean the best selling person with the most sales.

I think it's hard to know unless we show our financial statement...

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7eclair 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Adie

Old in age or old in membership?

Both is fine.
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dkbiz92

14 years ago

anywhere i can purchase this old age membership?

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tpw 14 years ago

Originally Posted by dkbiz92

anywhere i can purchase this old age membership?

Just wait a few years, and you will be able to get it for free.
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7eclair

14 years ago

Originally Posted by dkbiz92

anywhere i can purchase this old age membership?

Well I can see only people thanked in threads I don't know what kind.

If I want to check someone to sell for me I must play lotto I suppose.
There should must be members that are more trusted than others in this forum and people who respect them more and know them for their job in sales.

I want to start writing and I want people who can sale for me.

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Paul Myers 14 years ago

Old in age or old in membership?

Well, if you go with both, Kenneth Tang and I probably qualify. We always answer these kinds of questions, but the good answers have all been taken.

I don't eat a lot of sweets, personally. I'm sure Kenneth's up for the snack part, though. Can you eat a chocolate pastry with chopsticks?

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mywebwork

14 years ago

I certainly qualify as "old", but I doubt I meet the other criteria required to respond to this elite thread. Nonetheless I'll make an attempt.

Originally Posted by 7eclair

If I want to check someone to sell for me I must play lotto I suppose.
There should must be members that are more trusted than others in this forum and people who respect them more and know them for their job in sales.

Here's a radical thought - why not spend some time on here and determine for yourself who are the most respected authors on the forum. You've been here almost a year now, you should have some idea by now.

Originally Posted by 7eclair

I want to start writing and I want people who can sale for me.

Perhaps you might want to find a proofreader first before you look for a literary agent who can "sale" for you.

:rolleyes:

OK, I've had my say, time for my nap.

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rosetrees

14 years ago

Originally Posted by 7eclair

There should must be members that are more trusted than others in this forum and people who respect them more and know them for their job in sales.

I want to start writing and I want people who can sale for me.

Aside from all the joke answers, this is getting more and more bizarre.

So - you want to know who are the most respected article writers on this forum, who have high volumes of sales and a good customer base
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you want them to sell YOUR articles instead of their own?

Or did I miss something?

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mywebwork

14 years ago

Just woke up from my nap, thought I'd see how the "Bizarre Thread of the Day" is progressing.

Originally Posted by rosetrees

Aside from all the joke answers, this is getting more and more bizarre.

So - you want to know who are the most respected article writers on this forum, who have high volumes of sales and a good customer base
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you want them to sell YOUR articles instead of their own?

Or did I miss something?

My thoughts exactly. And it gets even more bizarre when you see the "quality" of the writing, as is evident in this sample:

Originally Posted by 7eclair

Well I can see only people thanked in threads I don't know what kind.

If I want to check someone to sell for me I must play lotto I suppose.
There should must be members that are more trusted than others in this forum and people who respect them more and know them for their job in sales.

I want to start writing and I want people who can sale for me.

It reads a lot like a spun article. Perhaps there is a market for a Warrior Forum Post Spinner. Just insert one post and presto - 100 fresh posts. A great tool for those wanting to build post count without going through the messy process of coming up with fresh content.

I'll check back in after the nurse comes and give me my medication, no doubt there will be more classic replies. I'd like to thank the OP for posting this, it's more fun than listening to the oldies radio station. Of course us elderly folk are easily amused.

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Chri5123

14 years ago

If we use the basis that you have to be old and a Warrior to know/write awesome articles I think this man can help you:

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Danielle Lynn 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Chri5123

If we use the basis that you have to be old and a Warrior to know/write awesome articles I think this man can help you:

I thought Gandalf outsourced all his work...
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  I thought Gandalf outsourced all his work...
  
  Only to hobbits...and the occasional elf. Even a few trolls.
  
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  Originally Posted by Rose Anderson
  
  I thought Gandalf outsourced all his work...
  
  Only to hobbits...and the occasional elf. Even a few trolls.
  
  I did not realize that Gandalf hired a few folks out of the WF... :p
  
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  I did not realize that Gandalf hired a few folks out of the WF... :p
  
  He refuses to acknowledge his declining eyesight and to get fitted for glasses. Thus, he mistook the Warrior Forum for the Hobbit Forum. You would have thought all the trolls would have clued him in, but he was in a rush to outsource as he heard it was all the rage.
  
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  I did not realize that Gandalf hired a few folks out of the WF... :p
  
  and "Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift..."
  
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R Hagel

14 years ago

You'll have to be patient while waiting for an answer from the old Warriors.

The old Warriors in the U.S. are currently taking their mid-morning naps.

The old Warriors in European time zones (and elsewhere) are currently enjoying their early-bird dinner specials, then it's straight to bed after that.

You might have better luck inviting younger Warriors to participate.

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Tsnyder

14 years ago

<yawn><stretch><scratch> just woke up... what's all the fuss about?

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Paul Myers

14 years ago

He refuses to acknowledge his declining eyesight and to get fitted for glasses.

He blamed it on a foggy Palantir...

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Dan C. Rinnert

14 years ago

Originally Posted by 7eclair

Who is the best on selling high quality articles? Accept only answers from old Warriors.

Did I reply to this thread yet? Can't recall. I think I may qualify, but I'm so old I can't remember. Sorry.

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rsmllc

14 years ago

I'm just 17 years old. Will you accept me?

Membership account doesn't matter if you read and view their previous works.

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tpw

14 years ago

@7eclair: I just have to thank you for this gift that just keeps on giving...

Originally Posted by rosetrees

you want them to sell YOUR articles instead of their own?

Or did I miss something?

Good question.

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Onora Oz

14 years ago

Now can't stop singing ... too old to rock n roll ...
Thank you all!

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7eclair

14 years ago

Well I respect all of your answers, but I had just a thought that might can work for me.

If I have to write for hours and don't have time for researching a market while I have to do many other jobs then a good idea for me is to outsource and I thought that people with experience could help me better. Am I right?

If there is people who are interesting for 50% of the sales and think they are good and fast can contact with me for samples. I can't do this offer now to another forum cause I started here asking for experienced people.

P.S. sorry if I am annoying to some people, I must look for good people somewhere.
P.S.S. I am from Europe, South and I have to go for sleep. I'll keep checking and posting for new updates in about 12H.

With all my respect to Warriors and Warriors Forum,

Alexander BK.

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myob 14 years ago

Originally Posted by 7eclair

If there is people who are interesting for 50% of the sales and think they are good and fast can contact with me for samples.

Some stupid young buck is much more likely to fall for that old trick. :rolleyes:
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NicoleBeckett

14 years ago

This thread is awesome!!

Personally, I'm just waiting for one of those "old Warriors" to start their response with "Back in my day..." Maybe then we'll know how article marketing was back when you had to walk uphill - both ways - in the snow to mass submit your articles to 1,000 different directories

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Rose Anderson

14 years ago

Good one, Nicole. Reminds me of when I had to run my IM business by candlelight

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by NicoleBeckett

Maybe then we'll know how article marketing was back when you had to walk uphill - both ways - in the snow to mass submit your articles to 1,000 different directories

Originally Posted by Rose Anderson

Good one, Nicole. Reminds me of when I had to run my IM business by candlelight

Ah yes, the good old days. Brings back a lot of fond memories, writing articles on my steam-powered computer and then using a telegraph to submit them.

It was a simpler time, a happier time....

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danr62

14 years ago

I can write for you real good articles, top quality. You give me $5 I give you article. You get lots of sales from top copywriter for $5.

This good for you?

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Nicola Lane

14 years ago

I'm sorry 7eclair, but I have no idea what you are trying to say. I understand every individual word - but the order you have put them in confuses the hell out of me! Perhaps it is my age (Or the sugar coma from the seven eclairs I felt compelled to eat!)

I remember the good old days, make money schemes were found in the back of the exchange and mart - and building a computer meant risking your fingers with a soldering iron. Young whippersnappers of today just have no idea!

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tpw

14 years ago

I suspect 7eclair is saying that he wants to team up with the person who sells the most articles online, so that he can contact them to request a 50/50 deal to sell his writing to others.

But as someone who has sold thousands of articles online to ghost writing clients, that is not how this business works.

7eclair can either sell his own work for 100% of the returns, or he can work for others, and they will tell him what they pay to have articles created by writers.

As a general rule, in my systems, there are several people who must be paid:

The writer;
The front-line editor;
The supervising editor / manager;
and me.

In my systems, I have to allot a certain amount of money to each person in the food chain:

The writer gets 15-25% of the selling price, based on experience and writing skill;
The front-line editors get paid in the range of 20% of the selling price as well;
The supervising editors / managers are paid also in the range of 20% of the gross as well;
10% is set aside for office overhead;
15% is allotted for advertising the service;
3% is taken by the payment processor;
And roughly 7-10% is collected by me for providing the system to others.

When the writer is getting 15% instead of the 25%, the additional money is usually spent on the front-line editor to cover the additional time spent to get an article cleaned up, so that it can be delivered to our client's at the level of competence our customers expect from us.

From what I have seen in 7eclair's writing skills so far, he would be lucky to get the 15%.

Since we are selling articles to an American audience, his writing skills honestly are not at the level they should be to serve our clients.

The brutal truth is that we prefer to pay the writer in the 25% range, and if someone applied for a job with the writing skills so far demonstrated by 7eclair, we would reject his application.

We would rather employ writers who have the basic understanding of how to create content that effectively communicates a message to its audience and employs good grammar. Otherwise, we would be making the job of our front-line editors more difficult than it needs to be.

P.S. If you are reading this post now thinking that you should contact me for a job as a writer -- don't. We don't hire through the Warrior Forum, and I do not make the hiring decisions.

P.P.S. My partner who manages the writing services only employs American writers, who can come into his office every day.

From my understanding of what 7eclair is seeking, the best I can tell him is, "Good luck with that."

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7eclair

14 years ago

Originally Posted by tpw

''7eclair can either sell his own work for 100% of the returns''

Thank you for your ''feedback'' and I would like to stay in the above words.

I am not an American and I can copywrite my own unique articles. What's the most easiest way to get sales.

Also what's the most common price for a spanned article of 500-600 words?

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affilcrazy

14 years ago

Originally Posted by 7eclair

Thank you for your ''feedback'' and I would like to stay in the above words.

I am not an American and I can copywrite

my own unique articles. What's the most easiest way to get sales.

Also what's the most common price (????) for a spanned article of 500-600 words?

7eclair,

With all due respect - I believe you are completely missing the point. Admittedly, this thread has turned into a bit of a fun-fest, but many of us are having difficulty in comprehending the message you are trying to get across.

That said, it appears you are looking for a way to sell articles that you write. Firstly, looking for people to "sell your articles" is not the initial approach most "writers" take. It may be a case of finding freelance writing jobs here (Warriors Looking to Hire You section), at another forum, or at a freelance writing/outsourcing site.

Secondly, the way in which you word your forum posts is an indication to your potential clients of your writing skills ... and without wishing to sound too harsh your writing skills aren't the greatest.

Additionally, the context in which you have use the word "copywrite" (which isn't actually a word, when spelt this way) in your last post worries me (when married together with the message your signature is sending out).

If you don't mind me asking - What do you understand copywriting to be?

The reason I ask is because I have come across too many "non-writers" who take the literal meaning of the words (as in "to copy" what they see/rewrite).

As for the most common price for a 500-600 word article - that's a bit like asking the most common price to buy a striker in football (proper football) - at this moment in time, Fernando Torres, about a fiver and Wayne Rooney, about $100million. A more natural conclusion based on your question in an IM forum, someone such as Bill (tpw) about $250+, and for me about 250 cents...

Would you be willing to share a sample of your writing with Warriors to receive some constructive feedback?

Because, in all honesty, at this moment in time, I'm pretty sure not a single person who has replied to this thread would purchase an article from you, based on your posts. I'm sorry if that sounds harsh again, but unfortunately it's the truth.

Finally, whenever I see posts with words such as "easy", "the best", "the most", this always leads me to one conclusion - someone, once again, in search of the magic button ... I'll save you time - there isn't one!

Cheers
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7eclair

14 years ago

I can only send some blog posts, I am working on a new website lately, but I don't think this is the right place to do it, (and it's not in the sellings section).

Also I understand and have knowledge for other sections in this forums and outside, but I can respect the opinion of Warriors.

Anyone that post to this thread is welcome to do it and leave his advice.

P.S. I also will check many peoples profiles to see what I can get.
P.S.S. signatures helping a lot.

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affilcrazy

14 years ago

I'm starting to understand how Simon Cowell feels when a tone-deaf singer wishes to argue with him about their not so obvious "talent"...

I think it's time to start the "old" jokes again, and simply wait for this thread to disappear...

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Originally Posted by 7eclair

I can only send some blog posts, I am working on a new website lately, but I don't think this is the right place to do it, (and it's not in the sellings section).

Also I understand and have knowledge for other sections in this forums and outside, but I can respect the opinion of Warriors.

Anyone that post to this thread is welcome to do it and leave his advice.

P.S. I also will check many peoples profiles to see what I can get.
P.S.S. signatures helping a lot.

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7eclair

14 years ago

Originally Posted by tpw

As a general rule, in my systems, there are several people who must be paid:

The writer;
The front-line editor;
The supervising editor / manager;
and me.

In my systems, I have to allot a certain amount of money to each person in the food chain:

The writer gets 15-25% of the selling price, based on experience and writing skill;
The front-line editors get paid in the range of 20% of the selling price as well;
The supervising editors / managers are paid also in the range of 20% of the gross as well;
10% is set aside for office overhead;
15% is allotted for advertising the service;
3% is taken by the payment processor;
And roughly 7-10% is collected by me for providing the system to others.

When the writer is getting 15% instead of the 25%, the additional money is usually spent on the front-line editor to cover the additional time spent to get an article cleaned up, so that it can be delivered to our client's at the level of competence our customers expect from us.

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I looked again for this post today and I thinked: ''This job you are doing is completely a stilling case! You can do this job alone better and make more money. Or how do I must say this.. you can make 100% percent profit for your own''

It was nice I had a conversation with you,

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tpw

14 years ago

Originally Posted by 7eclair

I looked again for this post today and I thinked: ''This job you are doing is completely a stilling case! You can do this job alone better and make more money. Or how do I must say this.. you can make 100% percent profit for your own''

It was nice I had a conversation with you,

Thanks.

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This is not a business proposition.

Yeah, I get to keep 100% of the profit, but the profit is the portion of the revenue that is mine:

And roughly 7-10% is collected by me for providing the system to others.

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7eclair 14 years ago

Originally Posted by tpw

Yeah, I get to keep 100% of the profit, but the profit is the portion of the revenue that is mine:

I find it hard to achieve.
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blalock61

14 years ago

How about this old Warrior?

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zachary0611

14 years ago

I only accept money from everybody.

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rosetrees

14 years ago

Guys - it must be obvious to us all by now that whatever we say, 7eclair is just going to ignore.

he or she isn't interested in receiving advise. S/he just wants to receive the "right" answer to his question. By that, I mean the answer that s/he wants to hear.

But I will add one extra piece of advice, based on your last post. Contacting people via their sig files and asking them if they will sell your articles for you is spamming and is likely to get you banned from this forum.

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Apollo-Articles

14 years ago

There are many decent writers here, it's a question you can only really answer yourself.

Trial a few out, then you can decide yourself.

Sam

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NicSennen

14 years ago

"Also what's the most common price for a spanned article of 500-600 words?"

If this means spun article then the most common price is very little. If you can take a good quality plr article and spin it into 50 high percentage unique and legible versions then that's a service you could sell on Fiverr.

Thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread for giving this relatively "old" person a good laugh.

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Istvan Horvath

14 years ago

at this moment in time, I'm pretty sure not a single person who has replied to this thread would purchase an article from you, based on your posts.

This should be the end of the discussion

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7eclair

14 years ago

Well alright I can't answer to everybody and I don't look for writers or silly advices.
I hope that helps my topic.

Have a nice day.

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Maverick Kevin

14 years ago

This is the first thread for me where i had seen so much discussion...by warriors ...I usually land on WSO's wen I open WF.

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SamirRastogi

14 years ago

Gotta admit, one thing 7eclair has managed to do successfully here is get the attention of all the bigwigs!

Maybe there is something to learn from this after all...

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MikeTucker

14 years ago

Yesterday was my birthday and I reached the age I always thought of as Old... I'm cranky now so stop making me laugh, it hurts my ribs.

Also, please use larger type. Your letters are hard to read.

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HeySal

14 years ago

I don't FEEL old. My grandson, Methuselah, says that I am getting to be a duffer though.

I don't sell writing.....um.....other people's writing that is. Why doncha just make em PLR and stick em on a WSO or advertise them in the WF classifieds. Easier than bothering with a lot of nasty, boring sales crap. If you are any good, people will buy your stuff -- depending if you let people who aren't old at least buy your stuff.

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