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WSO Listing and Bumping

by ankur420420
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Hi

I have a problem understanding how is the listing of WSO's is done

I know that if the OP posts himself on the thread,then the thread will not be bumped.Moreover,I am also aware that one is allowed pay for a bump after the thread reaches the 3rd page

But what I am seeing recently is that even if clients posted a question/review about my service on my thread,it didn't got bumped

Therefore,my thread reached the 3rd page

As an example,I would request you to please have a look at the following threads

http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...eviews-10.html

http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...y-pricing.html

Both the threads have the last post by their respective OPs which wouldn't count for a bump.So I moved to the post above that.In the first thread,the last post made by someone was at 02-21-2012, 01:15 AM (GMT +5:30) and in the second thread the last post made by someone was at 02-21-2012, 03:32 PM(GMT +5:30).

And I can see that the first thread is above the second...

Could somebody please tell the reason for this and throw some light on the bumping and the order of listing of WSOs

Moreover,since both of these threads have had recent posts just a few hours before so none of them would have paid for bumping as none of them reached the 3rd page

I have attached a screenshot too as the listing would change till the time everybody would see this

thanks
Ankur
#bumping #listing #wso
  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    Threads in the WSO forum and the other pay to post a thread forums do not get bumped when new posts are added, whether by the person paying or anyone else.

    It used to be this way, but it turned into a "who can bump the most" competition.

    Now the only way to get your post back to the top is to pay to do so, once your thread has fallen off the first two pages.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
      If you had a WSO with some kind of controversy going on, you would never fall off the 2nd page. lol - that is why this method works.

      It is a paid advertising area and should be "you get what you pay for"
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  • Profile picture of the author John Thornhill
    I wouldn't worry too much about bumping your thread, try to concentrate on getting affiliates to promote your product because if you get that right this is where most of your traffic will come from.
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    • Profile picture of the author ankur420420
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      Threads in the WSO forum and the other pay to post a thread forums do not get bumped when new posts are added, whether by the person paying or anyone else.

      It used to be this way, but it turned into a "who can bump the most" competition.

      Now the only way to get your post back to the top is to pay to do so, once your thread has fallen off the first two pages.
      So it will not get bumped even if few of my clients post good reviews about me?

      Is that what you meant?

      This would mean paying 40$ every 3 days whether your product is good or bad..whether your product is being sold a lot or not because even if people are buying and posting "actual" reviews,the thread will not come up

      Originally Posted by Jill Carpenter View Post

      If you had a WSO with some kind of controversy going on, you would never fall off the 2nd page. lol - that is why this method works.

      It is a paid advertising area and should be "you get what you pay for"
      Why would a "controversy" WSO never fall off the second page?...Even if there is a debate going on the thread and everybody is posting about it,then too the thread will reach the 3rd page because according to the post by Kurt above,the only way to bump is to pay as it cannot get bumped by itself by reviews by people

      Originally Posted by John Thornhill View Post

      I wouldn't worry too much about bumping your thread, try to concentrate on getting affiliates to promote your product because if you get that right this is where most of your traffic will come from.
      Thanks for the suggestion buddy....how do you get affiliates for your WSO..mind sharing a few tips
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      • Profile picture of the author Kurt
        Originally Posted by ankur420420 View Post

        So it will not get bumped even if few of my clients post good reviews about me?

        Is that what you meant?
        Yep, that's correct. And my WSO isn't being bumped above your's, even if I get a bunch of good reviews. It works both ways.
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        • Profile picture of the author ankur420420
          I truly understand what you say but if you see my attached thumbnail of the screenshot,there are threads which have just a half an hour posting difference among them,why is the one which had a recent post below the second one?

          Both of them had posts just a few hours back so none of them had reached the 3rd page....so the option of paying doesn't comes in here

          thanks
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          • Profile picture of the author WillR
            Originally Posted by ankur420420 View Post

            I truly understand what you say but if you see my attached thumbnail of the screenshot,there are threads which have just a half an hour posting difference among them,why is the one which had a recent post below the second one?

            Both of them had posts just a few hours back so none of them had reached the 3rd page....so the option of paying doesn't comes in here

            thanks
            It's simple.

            You pay $40 and post your WSO. Your WSO will gradually start to fall down as new WSO's are posted/bumped above yours. Eventually your WSO will drop off page 2 and at that time (and not before) you are then eligibile to bump your thread by paying another $40.

            That's it.

            It doesn't matter how good or bad your WSO is, how many good or bad reviews you get, or even what you had for breakfast. It is a paid advertising forum and no matter who posts on your thread it will never get bumped unless you pay the $40 to do so each and every time. This means crappy offers don't stay up the top very long because those people can't afford to keep bumping their thread. The products that fill the first few pages are generally those WSO offers that are doing well and can afford to bump their offer.
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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by ankur420420 View Post

        So it will not get bumped even if few of my clients post good reviews about me?

        Is that what you meant?

        This would mean paying 40$ every 3 days whether your product is good or bad..whether your product is being sold a lot or not because even if people are buying and posting "actual" reviews,the thread will not come up
        Posting in sales threads does NOT bump them.
        $40 bumps them when they reach page three.
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        • Profile picture of the author ankur420420
          Got it

          Thanks everyone for the help

          But this is still very expensive as it turns out to be paying 40$ every 2-3 days

          Ankur
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          • Profile picture of the author WillR
            Originally Posted by ankur420420 View Post

            Got it

            Thanks everyone for the help

            But this is still very expensive as it turns out to be paying 40$ every 2-3 days

            Ankur
            Yes, but...

            1. Would you not be happy to pay $40 every 2 or 3 days if that $40 was making you $100 - $200?

            2. You don't HAVE to bump your thread every 2 or 3 days and I certainly don't bump my thread that often. There are other ways to drive traffic to your WSO such as linking to it in your signature. You will also find you still get some traffic to your WSO even when it's buried down on Page 5 and below.

            You can also get some good traffic from the search engines if you play your cards right.

            Getting affiliates to promote for you is also another great way to keep the traffic coming in.
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          • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
            Originally Posted by ankur420420 View Post

            Got it

            Thanks everyone for the help

            But this is still very expensive as it turns out to be paying 40$ every 2-3 days

            Ankur
            It is a business expense. If you are not monetizing in someway (in the front or on the back) then what would be the point?

            And there is no rule that says you will only make sales by being on the front page.

            I bought a few things last week that were buried in the pile.
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      • Profile picture of the author John Thornhill
        Originally Posted by ankur420420 View Post


        Thanks for the suggestion buddy....how do you get affiliates for your WSO..mind sharing a few tips
        OK, here goes. First of all, if your affiliates make money, you make money.

        So always try to offer your affiliates the best deal you can. Consider offering 100% commissions on the frontend and at least 50% on the upsell. You do have an upsell don't you? If not add one, add something that compliments your main product, maybe a monthly program where you deliver similar content on a monthly basis. Affiliates love recurring commissions.

        If you are using Warrior Plus it's all about Visitor Value, that's what affiliates looking for good products to promote are looking for, get your Visitor Value over $1.00 and affiliates will be knocking your door down to promote your product. To do this offer a higher commission percentage and have an offer/copy that converts.

        In a nutshell put together a irresistible offer with good copy and give most of the profits away to affiliates and you will make more sales.

        And just in case anyone asks why give most of the profits away? This is because you will be building a list of buyers on the backend. Something everyone who sells a WSO must do.

        It's all about the backend, something most people wont tell you...

        Hope this helps.

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  • Profile picture of the author planetlubs
    At the moment, your thread is eligible to be bumped up if it has fallen to any page below page 2.
    You can read more on how to pump up your thread here:
    http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...mp-thread.html
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