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WHY control the PM and REPLY function here at WF?

by ebizmarkpro
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I have been on this Forum for YEARS spending most of the time + MONEY I might have to come here at the WSO;s

What I find FRUSTRATING is that I keep on bumping against the "silly" hurdle of 'not allowed to pm' someone of importance and in context of a purchase or 'not allowed to a reply" at certain Threads because I have not reach "20" [or other control numbers]!!

Man it frustrates me - because now I must spend my time to find the Threads where
1. I am allowed to comment
2. Where my reply COUNTS - reply's at the WSO does not count -
3. Must go and "just-comment" at threads just to get my count above that "magic" number.
4. Stugged at the Threads where I want to post because of interest or to add value - but CAN'T,
because my count is still to low.....

Why such controls?

Sellers PM me and I CAN'T PM them back because my COUNT is still to LOW!!!!

I think it is a 'mistake' - What do YOU THINK?

Gert
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    You've been a member since November, 2006. Is 20 posts in 63 months really too much to ask?

    Whatever you do, do not spam a thread just to get your post count up.

    Contribute to the forum and your post count will go up quickly.

    In all fairness, sellers should provide a form of contact outside of the forum.

    All the best,
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    • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
      There are very few sections that have a minimum post count before you can post. Surely you can find something useful to respond to in the remaining 9 or so sections?
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      • Profile picture of the author ebizmarkpro
        Originally Posted by Tina Golden View Post

        There are very few sections that have a minimum post count before you can post. Surely you can find something useful to respond to in the remaining 9 or so sections?
        Yes - I should have made more time doing just that Tina - like what I do today - spending and taking more time at WF.......
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Originally Posted by Michael Oksa View Post

      sellers are required to provide a form of contact outside of the forum.
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
        Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

        Calibanned.
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        I personally find that practice to be quite rude, in most cases. I choose my words carefully. HOWEVER, this case is different because it serves as a good reminder of the rules. You could also say that sellers should because they are required.

        Anyway, in this context, no problem. In other contexts? Well, let's just wait and see.

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  • Profile picture of the author MarketingChad
    It really is just to protect the integrity of the forum. If they didn't have this the amount of Spam would be ridiculous and people would leave the forum making it not as valuable. A vicious cycle for sure.
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  • Profile picture of the author wizzard74
    Bottom line, the majority of low count posters, not trying to tar everyone with the same brush here, could be potential spammers.

    You could turn up to a forum, spam everyone's PM box with crap then disappear.

    Many forums have these rules in place.

    It's not that hard to get to the requisite number of posts.
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    On the other hand, when anyone could PM anyone else, with no limitations, I'd get PM spammed so much I'd turn off my PMs so no one could PM me no matter how many posts they had.

    I like this way better.
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      If I may start out by saying that "our perception is our reality", meaning whatever a person perceives to be true, is true to them whether it is the actual truth or not.

      So, if a person comes along and reads this post for instance, they could perceive that the only reason you came to the WF is to sell things to the members seeing as how you've been a member for a while but have a low post count and admit that you post a lot in the WSO section. They could perceive that you don't really want to be a contributing member, you don't really want to help other members or ask for their advise gleaned from experience.

      The WF really is a community made up of "neighbors" that have relationships with other members, who encourage and help one another and the relationships and loyalty run deep. Every neighborhood wants to be composed of like minded folks and free from residents that come to prey upon other members or have less than sterling intentions. And since the "neighborhood" of the WF has been inundated with spammers and scammers trying to move in quite frequently, their detectors so to speak, are quite often on high alert.

      Now, I'm not saying that you are like this at all, I really don't know, but that you could be perceived as such.

      I would recommend that you take a stroll down some other streets than just WSO Boulevard and meet and greet some of your other neighbors. Offer some advice in your area of expertise when you see a question, ask some questions if you have them and before you know it, your post count will go up, people will come to know you better and who knows, your success may just go up in proportion.

      I wish you much success!

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  • Profile picture of the author MikeRogers
    Hey Gert,

    Looks like you just raised your post count by 1 at least

    I think the WF just wants to make sure that the members are actually contributing something to the forum before allowing them to PM other members which avoids "Drive-By spamming".

    Just join in on some of the discussions and you will get that number in no time at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author marketinguk
    Michael has summed this up perfectly. although posts in wso's don't count they do in other parts of the forum like the main marketing forum area, jv section etc. I think this is so the people show they are contributing to other memebrs on the forum and other people can see that. I also have posted a lot but they have mainly been in wso's which don't count. So in short contribute to the forum and like Michael said don't spam the forum to get your post count up, this willl make life better for you and for others on the forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Then
    Originally Posted by ebizmarkpro View Post

    I have been on this Forum for YEARS spending most of the time + MONEY I might have to come here at the WSO;s

    What I find FRUSTRATING is that I keep on bumping against the "silly" hurdle of NOT ALLOWED TO PM someone of importance and in context of a PURCHASE or NOT ALLOWED TO GIVE A REPLY at certain Threads BECAUSE I HAVE NOT YET REACH "20" [or other control numbers]!!

    Man it frustrates me - because now I must WASTE my time to find the Threads where
    1. I am allowed to comment
    2. Where my reply COUNTS - reply's at the WSO does NOT COUNT - STUGGED
    3. Must go and "spam" threads just to get my COUNT above that "magic" number.
    4. Stugged at the Threads where I want to post because of interest or to add value - but CAN'T,
    because my count is still to low.....

    WHY SUCH CONTROL?

    Sellers PM me and I CAN'T PM them back because my COUNT is still to LOW!!!!

    I think it is A MISTAKE - What do YOU THINK?

    Gert
    It just shows that you are here to not to contribute, but to suck things up.
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    • Profile picture of the author ebizmarkpro
      Originally Posted by Joseph Then View Post

      It just shows that you are here to not to contribute, but to suck things up.
      I think you are making an ASSUMPTION there - I don;t have all the time like others to just "contribute" easily....
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      • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
        Originally Posted by ebizmarkpro View Post

        I think you are making an ASSUMPTION there - I don;t have all the time like others to just "contribute" easily....
        Well that's two in one day, well done.

        If we get in an arguement, you could be there in ten minutes.

        So, purely to help you out, I'm going to disagree with what you're saying.

        What are you going to do about that then?

        Come on, we'll fix this in no time.
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        • Profile picture of the author ebizmarkpro
          Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

          Well that's two in one day, well done.

          If we get in an arguement, you could be there in ten minutes.

          So, purely to help you out, I'm going to disagree with what you're saying.

          What are you going to do about that then?

          Come on, we fix this in no time.
          Haha - you are right Richard - I see your "strategy" THANKS
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          • Profile picture of the author JimDucharme
            I don't think you want to see what things might be like if the mods didn't have the tools they have with VB to frustrate or stop spammers and trolls. The old wild west days were not pretty.

            The fact is, 90 percent of us are subjected to annoying rules/laws because 10 percent just don't get it or care to. It sucks, but that is our reality.

            An online forum is a community just like your neighborhood is. If you lived in your basement for years and never said a word to others on your street, never interacted or showed up community events or meetings and then suddenly started complaining about things, well, the reactions would likely be similar to what you've gotten from some people here. Fair or not, they may not give your tenure in the community the weight you might feel it deserves because from their perspective, you have not participated.

            So, IMHO the short answer to your question is that it's not a mistake...it's a necessity.

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            • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
              Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

              So, if a person comes along and reads this post for instance, they could perceive that the only reason you came to the WF is to sell things to the members seeing as how you've been a member for a while but have a low post count and admit that you post a lot in the WSO section. are quite often on high alert.

              Now, I'm not saying that you are like this at all, I really don't know, but that you could be perceived as such.

              I would recommend that you take a stroll down some other streets than just WSO Boulevard and meet and greet some of your other neighbors.
              Terra
              Terra, this would be logical IF the gentleman was actually posting WSOs. Since he's not a War Room member, he's buying WSOs.

              While I see the point of the rules, I can also see his frustration if he's used to spending money here on a regular basis. It's not a big problem and it won't take any time at all to get to the required post minimums, but I think the OP was simply frustrated when he started this thread.

              I think a few people need to rein it in just a bit as some replies have really been overly harsh in response to a moment of frustration from one of those customers we all want.
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              • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
                Tina,

                That's the thing about perceptions.

                I agree he was frustrated and I understand it as well and I'm glad that he posted actually, because he is now interacting with other members and thankful for some of the advice he's been given as you can see by the thanks he's given.

                He's also experiencing the camaraderie of other members which I think he is enjoying and this is just the icebreaker he needed.

                As for the negative responses given here, I'm sure he's just eating the meat and spitting out the bone.

                Terra
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                • Profile picture of the author ebizmarkpro
                  Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

                  Tina,

                  That's the thing about perceptions.

                  I agree he was frustrated and I understand it as well and I'm glad that he posted actually, because he is now interacting with other members and thankful for some of the advice he's been given as you can see by the thanks he's given.

                  He's also experiencing the camaraderie of other members which I think he is enjoying and this is just the icebreaker he needed.

                  As for the negative responses given here, I'm sure he's just eating the meat and spitting out the bone.

                  Terra
                  THANKS Terra for your "perception" advice - you are right - I should have TAKEN ACTION in this regard earlier on already.....

                  Yes I know 'how to eat FISH'
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              • Profile picture of the author ebizmarkpro
                Originally Posted by Tina Golden View Post

                Terra, this would be logical IF the gentleman was actually posting WSOs. Since he's not a War Room member, he's buying WSOs.

                While I see the point of the rules, I can also see his frustration if he's used to spending money here on a regular basis. It's not a big problem and it won't take any time at all to get to the required post minimums, but I think the OP was simply frustrated when he started this thread.

                I think a few people need to rein it in just a bit as some replies have really been overly harsh in response to a moment of frustration from one of those customers we all want.
                THANKS Tina - you are reading my "mind" quite good
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              • Profile picture of the author ebizmarkpro
                Originally Posted by Tina Golden View Post

                Terra, this would be logical IF the gentleman was actually posting WSOs. Since he's not a War Room member, he's buying WSOs.

                While I see the point of the rules, I can also see his frustration if he's used to spending money here on a regular basis. It's not a big problem and it won't take any time at all to get to the required post minimums, but I think the OP was simply frustrated when he started this thread.

                I think a few people need to rein it in just a bit as some replies have really been overly harsh in response to a moment of frustration from one of those customers we all want.
                THANKS Terra - you seems to be reading my "mind" quite well - sometimes you are 'dammed if you do and dammed if you don't' when posting something
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                • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
                  Originally Posted by ebizmarkpro View Post

                  Michael - REALLY!

                  Why would a Thread like this - be deleted?


                  Gert
                  It may not be, but if it is it would probably have something to do with the fact that this particular issue has been discussed here dozens, if not hundreds, of times. Usually the ones that get deleted are the ones that degenerate into a battle rather than remaining on an informative level.

                  I'm not a mod, but this one could be safe based on what I've seen in the past. If it disappears you'll at least know why now. If it does, don't start a thread asking why it was deleted. lol - Those usually get deleted, too.
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                  • Profile picture of the author ebizmarkpro
                    Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

                    It may not be, but if it is it would probably have something to do with the fact that this particular issue has been discussed here dozens, if not hundreds, of times. Usually the ones that get deleted are the ones that degenerate into a battle rather than remaining on an informative level.

                    I'm not a mod, but this one could be safe based on what I've seen in the past. If it disappears you'll at least know why now. If it does, don't start a thread asking why it was deleted. lol - Those usually get deleted, too.
                    Thanks Dennis - that make sense. Even though I have joined WF long time ago - I was not very active because of Offline work, so in many ways I am still a 'newbie' learning the ropes. I appreciate you patience and kind explanation - compare with some 'people's' rude postings...
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                    • Profile picture of the author Joseph Then
                      Originally Posted by ebizmarkpro View Post

                      I appreciate you patience and kind explanation - compare with some 'people's' rude postings...
                      That's because you don't understand what you need to do at this forum. And you are not the first to ask 'why control this', 'why control that', 'why not this', 'why not that', etc. Most of these threads are deleted within a day.

                      Many moderators are tired of reading these threads because all you need to do is just read the forum rules to understand what you need to do.

                      If your purpose here is just to read WSO forums and participate there, please don't come to the main forum and whine.

                      Just remember that we are at Allen's "house", and we are to follow the "house owner's rule".
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            • Profile picture of the author ebizmarkpro
              Originally Posted by JimDucharme View Post

              So, IMHO the short answer to your question is that it's not a mistake...it's a necessity.

              Regards,
              jim
              I want to agree with you - perhaps a wrong choice of word "mistake"....

              THKS
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              • Profile picture of the author JimDucharme
                Originally Posted by ebizmarkpro View Post

                I want to agree with you - perhaps a wrong choice of word "mistake"....

                THKS
                Meh...it happens. Who hasn't ranted about something or another? These kind of posts always have a similar pattern and depending on how the originating poster reacts, can be very positive and educational or a flame war. Good on you for taking the higher road and listening.

                After this thread you may see more value in interacting directly here.

                Regards,
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                • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
                  Originally Posted by ebizmarkpro View Post


                  I think it is A MISTAKE - What do YOU THINK?

                  Gert
                  Originally Posted by Mick Meaney View Post

                  You could upgrade to the war room, then you can reply to your PM's without worrying about your post count.
                  Originally Posted by Tina Golden View Post

                  While I see the point of the rules, I can also see his frustration if he's used to spending money here on a regular basis. It's not a big problem and it won't take any time at all to get to the required post minimums, but I think the OP was simply frustrated when he started this thread.
                  Perhaps the OP does not realize - there is a good chance that some of those things he has been spending all this money on might be found free in the War Room.

                  That membership could solve 2 issues for him.
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      • Profile picture of the author Caleb Spilchen
        Originally Posted by ebizmarkpro View Post

        I think you are making an ASSUMPTION there - I don;t have all the time like others to just "contribute" easily....
        You don't have time to contribute... but you sure have a lot of free time to whine and complain.. right?

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      • Profile picture of the author Scott Burton
        Originally Posted by ebizmarkpro View Post

        I think you are making an ASSUMPTION there - I don;t have all the time like others to just "contribute" easily....
        I used to feel kind of odd being here since 2006 as a registered member (going on 6 years) and having only about 600 posts, when I would see people who had been here less than 3 years with several thousand posts.

        But I don't come here all the time. I may be away for months sometimes. But I still "average" about 100 posts a year, which comes out to what, about 1/4 post per day, almost 2 posts a week?

        It's not an unreasonable requirement to protect members from spammers. Though there are those who will manage to overcome the limitation, the limitation does discourage many would be spammers.

        If you have a couple of questions, or a couple of ideas, share them. You'll get feedback from others, your post count will go up, and the restriction will no longer limit you.
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        • Profile picture of the author ebizmarkpro
          Originally Posted by Scott Burton View Post

          I used to feel kind of odd being here since 2006 as a registered member (going on 6 years) and having only about 600 posts, when I would see people who had been here less than 3 years with several thousand posts.

          But I don't come here all the time. I may be away for months sometimes. But I still "average" about 100 posts a year, which comes out to what, about 1/4 post per day, almost 2 posts a week?

          It's not an unreasonable requirement to protect members from spammers. Though there are those who will manage to overcome the limitation, the limitation does discourage many would be spammers.

          If you have a couple of questions, or a couple of ideas, share them. You'll get feedback from others, your post count will go up, and the restriction will no longer limit you.
          Thanks Scott - APPRECIATE your understanding regarding the topic + your input of those who are working Offline

          Have a GREAT day
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      Originally Posted by Joseph Then View Post

      It just shows that you are here to not to contribute, but to suck things up.
      Yep, that is what is sounds like to me also.

      Also, he could just become a War Room member and pay a one time life time fee and have those limitations removed.

      It is a good thing to require so many posts and many other forums do it too. It helps to keep the spammers away.
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  • Profile picture of the author Caleb Spilchen
    To answer just what you said in your threadline:

    Everyone's PM Box would be spammed... automated bots would join the forum, and spam everyone... constantly.

    If you give a low barrier of entry to use a PM feature, then ANYONE, including spammers (yeah people who will PM you viruses) and others.. can use it.

    Only makes sense to have to "earn it".

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    You could upgrade to the war room, then you can reply to your PM's without worrying about your post count.
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    Plus...At the rate you're going, 7 posts in 6 years, you only have another 13-14 years or so to go...Patience.
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  • Profile picture of the author ebizmarkpro
    The reason that the "control" will keep out "spammers" don't hold - because if you are a spammer - you will just quickly get your quota to get to the point to be allowed to post almost everywhere and start your "spamming" where ever 'you' want [spammers] - no 1 will stop your mission] !

    But THANKS for those who have post POSITIVELY above [below] And one of the reasons for opening this Thread [because I have some free time now] is to have this discussion on this topic [real frustration at this point] and to see what others will say [or judge] regarding the topic + hope it will HELP others who are new here.

    THKS

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    • Profile picture of the author Caleb Spilchen
      Originally Posted by ebizmarkpro View Post

      The reason that the "control" will keep out "spammers" don't hold - because if you ARE A SPAMMER you will just quickly get your quota to get to the point to be ALLOWED to post almost everywhere and START your "spamming" where ever 'you' want [IF YOU ARE A SPAMMER - no 1 will stop your mission] !

      But THANKS for those who have post POSITIVELY above [below] And YES one of the reasons for opening this Thread [because I have some free time now] is to have this discussion to get my count UP but to also see what others will say [or judge] regarding the topic + hope it will HELP others who are new here.

      THKS

      Gert
      Yeah, but then you have to remember you have a min of (I think 30?) seconds between posts -- plus, mods are always watching... They can catch a forum spammer faster then a PM spammer.

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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
      Originally Posted by ebizmarkpro View Post

      The reason that the "control" will keep out "spammers" don't hold - because if you ARE A SPAMMER you will just quickly get your quota to get to the point to be ALLOWED to post almost everywhere and START your "spamming" where ever 'you' want [IF YOU ARE A SPAMMER - no 1 will stop your mission] !

      But THANKS for those who have post POSITIVELY above [below] And YES one of the reasons for opening this Thread [because I have some free time now] is to have this discussion to get my count UP but to also see what others will say [or judge] regarding the topic + hope it will HELP others who are new here.

      THKS

      Gert
      Hi Gert,

      I'm not saying the following will happen, but it's something you may want to prepare for just in case.

      If this thread gets deleted, then your post count will go back down.

      So, if you have a few free moments, why not check out a few other threads in the main forum and contribute to them. That way if the worst happens here, you will still have other posts that count toward your total.

      Again, I'm not saying this thread will get deleted, but...

      All the best,
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      • Profile picture of the author ebizmarkpro
        Originally Posted by Michael Oksa View Post

        Hi Gert,

        I'm not saying the following will happen, but it's something you may want to prepare for just in case.

        If this thread gets deleted, then your post count will go back down.

        So, if you have a few free moments, why not check out a few other threads in the main forum and contribute to them. That way if the worst happens here, you will still have other posts that count toward your total.

        Again, I'm not saying this thread will get deleted, but...

        All the best,
        Michael
        Michael - REALLY!

        Why would a Thread like this - be deleted?
        I have learned something, by opening this Thread and come to realize "my mistake"
        for not doing it EARLIER and MADE time to visit my "neighbors" and add value - but I
        think my "question" in this Thread still have "value too" - perhaps in a general sense - when someone new or those that come here [WF WSO - mainly] with a limited time/purpose...But I understand the reasons some have mentioned at this Thread - why the "controls" are in place - and AGREE with some....

        But any how - thanks for your GREAT advice Michael

        Gert
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        • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
          Originally Posted by ebizmarkpro View Post

          Michael - REALLY!

          Why would a Thread like this - be deleted?
          I have learned something, by opening this Thread and come to realize "my mistake"
          for not doing it EARLIER and MADE time to visit my "neighbors" and add value - but I
          think my "question" in this Thread still have "value too" - perhaps in a general sense - when someone new or those that come here [WF WSO - mainly] with a limited time/purpose...But I understand the reasons some have mentioned at this Thread - why the "controls" are in place - and AGREE with some....

          But any how - thanks for your GREAT advice Michael

          Gert
          I'm not saying that the thread should be closed, and I'm not saying it will be closed. What I am saying is that just about any thread can disappear at any given time. There are a lot of reasons why a thread can be closed.

          I just didn't want to risk having your post count go back down, and wanted to let you know that any thread can be closed at any time.

          All the best,
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        • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
          Originally Posted by ebizmarkpro View Post

          Why would a Thread like this - be deleted?
          For the same reason most threads griping about policy are deleted. They encourage people to waste everyone's time griping about policy.


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  • Profile picture of the author wizzard74
    Gert,

    You forget one thing, those spammers who spam up their post count, do get banned, so their efforts to get their post counts up, count for nothing.
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    • Profile picture of the author ebizmarkpro
      Originally Posted by wizzard74 View Post

      Gert,

      You forget one thing, those spammers who spam up their post count, do get banned, so their efforts to get their post counts up, count for nothing.
      OBVIOUSLY the WF MOD'S are experienced and have the best systems in place to filter "them" out as soon as possible - but I mean "they" could still try or do [spam] so initially - but that is just a sub-point.

      And thanks for "helping" me with the discussion
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    Most forums have this kinda setup , its to kick out the spammers or inactive members , would you want a spammer to sign up on the forum make one post and then hit your PM box with junk?
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  • Profile picture of the author davejug1
    I'm thinking this restriction is not there is you are a War room member?

    If not then it should be, but if it is, then that's your answer, if you're going to sell to the forum, then contributing would be the best start.

    I know I'm not, but then I'm not selling here.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Originally Posted by davejug1 View Post


      I know I'm not, but then I'm not selling here.
      Well one of those links goes to a page with a link to a squeeze page, so if you're selling to people on that list, you are technically here to sell to people and people here are people you want as customers.

      The second link goes to a 404 error page, just so you know.
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        Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

        Well one of those links goes to a page with a link to a squeeze page, so if you're selling to people on that list, you are technically here to sell to people and people here are people you want as customers.

        The second link goes to a 404 error page, just so you know.
        Well it's a free service so while I'm selling "Me" I'm not selling per se.

        Thanks for the tip though, fixed now.
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        • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
          Originally Posted by davejug1 View Post

          Well it's a free service so while I'm selling "Me" I'm not selling per se.

          Thanks for the tip though, fixed now.
          I was just being silly, the main reason I posted was to tell you about the 404.

          If it's a totally free service, then I stand corrected. Apologies.
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    • Profile picture of the author Cataclysm1987
      Originally Posted by davejug1 View Post

      I'm thinking this restriction is not there is you are a War room member?
      Exactly.

      Or you just get off your lazy ass and make a few posts. LOL
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    I think you need to add to your todo list and post 9 more things!! It isn't hard, just make sure they are good yeah
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    • Profile picture of the author ebizmarkpro
      Originally Posted by butters View Post

      I think you need to add to your todo list and post 9 more things!! It isn't hard, just make sure they are good yeah
      Good idea THKS
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  • Profile picture of the author Colin Palfrey
    I always have internal methods of communication in my products as it seemed a good idea, but hadn't known it was actually a rule. I'm glad it is though, as it makes sense.

    With that in mind, it looks like the problem in this case is not the OP's fault at all, it is the fault of the people he is buying the WSOs from, that do not have any method of asking questions.

    At least that is the way I've taken what he has said.

    He doesn't appear to be trying to sell anything, as Tina has stated above and may simply want to ask a question regarding a WSO that he has paid for.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bill_Z
    OP I just WANTEd to [drop by] to mention YOUR use of CAPS and [brackets] is weird. Carry ON. Also your "use" of QUOTATIONS is eRRatic tOO! See YOU can [just drop in to TROLL] like THIS and you "will" have YOUR post COUNT to 20 "soon"!
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    • Profile picture of the author EllesBelles
      Originally Posted by Bill_Z View Post

      OP I just WANTEd to [drop by] to mention YOUR use of CAPS and [brackets] is weird. Carry ON. Also your "use" of QUOTATIONS is eRRatic tOO! See YOU can [just drop in to TROLL] like THIS and you "will" have YOUR post COUNT to 20 "soon"!
      I was just thinking this! It bothers me too much to read the rest of the thread.

      Anyway, telling a forum that you don't have time to help them but will gladly take their advice and complaining that the forum which allows you to do that has too many rules is a bit rich.
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      • Profile picture of the author ebizmarkpro
        Originally Posted by EllesBelles View Post

        I was just thinking this! It bothers me too much to read the rest of the thread.

        Anyway, telling a forum that you don't have time to help them but will gladly take their advice and complaining that the forum which allows you to do that has too many rules is a bit rich.
        Thanks anyway for clicking the link to come to this thread + reading so far-down + commenting - lol
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  • Profile picture of the author Marhelper
    Here is what I do not understand: You spent a considerable amount of time writing the OP and the replies when you could just contribute little by little every once in a while, your post count would then be high enough and your problem is solved. For someone that does not have a lot of time, you seem to find enough to complain ... just sayin
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
      Originally Posted by Marhelper View Post

      Here is what I do not understand: You spent a considerable amount of time writing the OP and the replies when you could just contribute little by little every once in a while, your post count would then be high enough and your problem is solved. For someone that does not have a lot of time, you seem to find enough to complain ... just sayin
      I have to admit that I had the same reaction after reading the first post. But then I noticed how Gert was responding to posts. Perhaps he was a bit frustrated when he started the thread, but his other posts show that he has since calmed down.

      A lot of us will post things off the cuff and in the heat of the moment, and that's okay if it doesn't go too far. It shows that we are dealing with real people, and that's fine by me.

      So, I get your main point (which is largely the point I was making in post #2), but Gert seems like he's alright. Oh, and he's also much closer to his 20th post.

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  • Profile picture of the author Stockypotty
    Being new to the forum I have found this to be quite frustrating too. I just tried to PM a guy to ask him about a particular thread from a few months ago.

    * you don't have enough posts *

    Ok that's fine, because it is probably to stop spammers exploiting the PM system etc... ah I can put a visitor message on their profile, that will work

    * You don't have enough posts *

    ... Grrrrrrr. Completely understandable system and it's just something that has to happen I suppose. So I endure... with rage in my eyes and soul
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    • Profile picture of the author Ken Leatherman
      Even though the PM rules are in place there are still folks who try their best to spam our forum. Consequently these folks waste everybody's time regardless if its in a PM or a thread they start.

      Thankfully many of our members have become quite good at spotting these spammers and report them to the mods. With practice almost all members can become efficient in spotting spammers and benefit the whole forum by doing so.

      Now I don't time for any more thoughts on this subject and must retire to my villa in the Caribbean

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    • Profile picture of the author ebizmarkpro
      Originally Posted by Stockypotty View Post

      Being new to the forum I have found this to be quite frustrating too. I just tried to PM a guy to ask him about a particular thread from a few months ago.

      * you don't have enough posts *

      Ok that's fine, because it is probably to stop spammers exploiting the PM system etc... ah I can put a visitor message on their profile, that will work

      * You don't have enough posts *

      ... Grrrrrrr. Completely understandable system and it's just something that has to happen I suppose. So I endure... with rage in my eyes and soul
      Stockypotty - that were some of my 'points' I was referring to - and yes I understand there has to be rules to make this forum as successful as it is - but that's where 'frustration' come in play - those point you have mentioned.

      All the best....
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    Congrats ebizmarkpro, looks like you made it ...
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  • Profile picture of the author Jwil1025
    Well i have been here a while also and need to get my post count up to 50. Most of my comments have been in the WSO section...

    Cheers
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    • Profile picture of the author ebizmarkpro
      Originally Posted by Jwil1025 View Post

      Well i have been here a while also and need to get my post count up to 50. Most of my comments have been in the WSO section...

      Cheers
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      Yes J - that is the place [WSO's] where I made MANY comments and postings + bought several needed IM Products -but all those post end up with ZERO counts, like you have mentioned. All the best - see you at the TOP - top of that magic number
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  • Profile picture of the author cedricloi
    I think getting to 50 posts doesn't really take that long, several evenings or a couple of weekends. These policies are just there to lower the amount of spam.
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    • Profile picture of the author ebizmarkpro
      Originally Posted by cedricloi View Post

      I think getting to 50 posts doesn't really take that long, several evenings or a couple of weekends. These policies are just there to lower the amount of spam.
      I agree with that statement now that I force myself to communicate outside my normal purpose for visiting WF.
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  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    Originally Posted by ebizmarkpro View Post

    I think it is a 'mistake' - What do YOU THINK?
    I agree, it is a mistake to spend five years on a forum and only make a couple dozen posts.

    I mean, crap, I've been here less than three years and I've got 7,000. I understand you've probably got, like, work to do or something... but seriously? You can't make one post a month?
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Originally Posted by ebizmarkpro View Post

    What I find FRUSTRATING is that I keep on bumping against the "silly" hurdle of 'not allowed to pm' someone of importance and in context of a purchase or 'not allowed to a reply" at certain Threads because I have not reach "20" [or other control numbers]!!
    Easy to fix. You certainly should have been able to rustle up the amount of posts needed since 2006. Them's the rules. Everyone plays by them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adrian Int
    I had this same problem when I first joined.. and I solved it by becoming a war room member.

    ... and I haven't looked back.

    If you're "used to spending money" on the WF, then the war room is a no-brainer. It's got a ton of awesome stuff in it and it keeps coming - for "free" after the initial purchase.

    Cheers,
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    • Profile picture of the author ebizmarkpro
      Originally Posted by Adrian Int View Post

      I had this same problem when I first joined.. and I solved it by becoming a war room member.

      ... and I haven't looked back.

      If you're "used to spending money" on the WF, then the war room is a no-brainer. It's got a ton of awesome stuff in it and it keeps coming - for "free" after the initial purchase.

      Cheers,
      -Adrian
      Thanks Adrian for the advice - I have not taken that step of signing up at the 'war-room' yet - will take a look....
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  • Profile picture of the author Anita Clark
    I'm ok with it and consider it earning my stripes. A quick post letting someone know you can't PM back will usually get a fast response from what I have seen in my short time here.
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    • Profile picture of the author ebizmarkpro
      Originally Posted by Anita Clark View Post

      I'm ok with it and consider it earning my stripes. A quick post letting someone know you can't PM back will usually get a fast response from what I have seen in my short time here.
      Thanks Anita - yes that is what I have done when I needed to communicate with a Seller urgently. I must say that I am learning lots since I have started this thread and am glad I did it with the limited time I have.
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