Why are people still allowed to discuss article spinning on this forum?

Because spinning can be used legitimately and in a way will not litter the Internet with illegible trash. Unfortunately, most don't seem to use it that way but that doesn't make the original concept any less valuable.

as much as it may not be as useful as it once was ( I don't do it at all) since when does WF start censoring topics?

Whether you like it or not spinning just plain works.

If you find an article you like and want to spin it and add to it and add it to your site, it works. If you want to spin total garbage for the sole purpose of backlink spam, it works.

Every point you made was wrong.

Just because your spinning results in garbage doesn't mean my spinning does. As far as whether Google like it or not, who cares. If I want to have crap on my website that is my business.

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I didn't read all the these posts, just the original one, but I don't like the idea of banning discussion on certain topics just because one, or a few, or even many marketers think it doesn't add value. I don't even like the of banning topics if there is unanimous decision that it doesn't add value. People should be able to bring up any ol' internet marketing, the good and the bad.

You're well on your way to a full page thread about article spinning.

Ironic, yes?

Because I'm not tired of this .gif yet?

{Spinning articles correctly is legitimate.|Spinning articles is evil and all people who do it should be made to write out "Spinning is Evil!" 1000 times.}

Article spinning, as I use it, is really precious. But I lose time doing it on my own, I don't use automatic software. I use the famous software everyone using here on WF and I need at least 40 minutes for article.

This is just my point of view.

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Alessandro Zamboni

Should we talk about article rewording then? spinning is not bad as long as you do it wisely. I you have 100 versions of your article, you have 100 chances to someone take a look at your content.

Is far more better than submit duplicate contet.

You are not spamming, you are "spreading your word to multiple sources" to reach a larger number of audience (let everyone knows that I wrote that awesome content!).

Now if you are talking about "software spun articles" the kind that only non native english speaking can understand (yes like me... but I'm really trying! I'm really do... *sight*). Yes this crappy articles have no value and should be penalized by big G.

But if you dilligently change your articles rewording phrases instead of single words then you will have a completly different article with the same topic, and serving the same purpose: add value to the end user and of course adding a contextual backlink to your main site.

Censoring topics would be dangerous. If you censor article spinning, you would have to censor link creation. Then, ghost wrting might follow.

Each of us has a filter--our brain. We need to decide for ourselves what we are going to do. If we choose to go Black Hat or Gray Hat...so be it, there are risks involved. If we choose to go White Hat, we will have to work a bit harder to achieve the same results.

HAHAHA, very ironic.

I personally don't like using spun articles. You can usually tell they are spun because they will replace certain words with other words that mean basically the same thing, but you wouldn't actually use that word if you were actually writing the article. If I really really need to, I might use a spun article, but most of the time I just like writing my own quality content that is real and from my own brain.

Sadly because I a lot of marketers still encourage it or so believe.

Tina already mentioned this, but from some of the comments being made I guess it needs to be said again. Choosing to spin your own articles is your choice to make. Taking other people's articles and spinning them is stealing.

Because spinning happens in the real world.


Spinning can be useful if it reads properly.


It is a useful technique to help promote a website.


Fighting Talk Place ok, speech of freedom so allows.

( Ooops - My auto spinner turned on . Manual spin text should read:
"Warrior Forum allows freedom of speech, so yes". )

thaqts funny because im just going to post a thread on what the best article spinning software is. For immoral people its a numbers game. But i use (obviously) to create the same article so that i can post it somewhere else without having to use the same article. The same point is getting across, im just saving myself time and money from writing the same thing manually over and over again in different ways.

Seen as though there are so many crappy threads in here recently...and WF has gone down the girgler a bit..... this is the best thread I have seen in 2012.

Nice job! Yes, stop talking and spinning articles. It will get you no where. Unless you want to be penalized by google!

Honest any one that thinks they are going to generate genuine leads though poorly spun articles is very optimistic. Now spun articles could easily be used to get your back links indexed, if any one thinks using spun articles on spammy web sites that link back to your money site is a good idea, you will have a nasty wake up call soon. Better off have quality content on money site, being linked from 2.0 web sites (not the same article but something related) ie link bait and then using spun versions of the 2.0 article to pass on link juice to the 2.0 site.

Article spinning is very useful if used correctly.
When done the right way article spinning can be very helpful.
If you spin an article properly it becomes useful content.
A spun article is just as good as an original article if some editorial expertise is used.
Imagine having 50 original articles by using article spinning.
A spun article that makes perfect sense is valuable content.

Wow! An education, Freddy Mercury and a Hitler's Reaction all in one thread? I'm loving that. Have to confess I probably was of the same knee-jerk opinion as the OP till I read the thread. Now I see how done well, and ethically, it can be useful.

Article spinning definitely does still work. There is no doubt about that!

People here confuses spinning with stealing ("scraping") articles and then auto-spin them. I wouldn't do that, but i would use a AI autospinner such as WordAi, in order to produce pretty much unique and readable product descriptions.

Actually writing quality articles is the same as spinning just on another level. Spining is everything.

Every wonderful something in the world could be used in ways that are not for the benefit of others.

Just because wonderful things can be used in a bad way does not mean those good things should be treated as bad things.

For example: Ryder trucks are a very useful tool. But, when you fill them with fertilizer and diesel fuel, then wacko white guys can use them for insanely diabolical things.


p.s. Not only are we allowed to discuss spinning... Some of us are even allowed to do it. :p

Holy snap crackle n pop, did we just come to a general consensus on spinning???

You people are KILLING my productivity, but I had to get involved

IMHO spinning can be valid if:

1. The base content is very well written.
2. The unique articles that are spun are legitimate, are easy to read on the eye, and will end up benefiting the reader in whichever site it is put into.

The internet is all about content at the end of the day. And if an article provides valid, perfectly readable and accurately written content on whatever topic then what's the problem? And what does it matter how it got there?

Incredible how IM has evolved though - many years ago, you used to get rewarded for putting the SAME article on as many different article directories as possible. Now, you could get penalized for taking the trouble to create several unique articles and adding a unique one into various different sites.

In all this google slap, panda bans, penguin reach arounds lol.... I am still in shock people think spinning articles are ok. They either have no brain cells or cannot read a few lines in google news. Simple really.

Do not spin, if you are lazy like most, go get on the unemployment line and drink yourself stupid.

If you want to be well known, or do well in this game, create high quality info that people want to read, that can help or enrich their lives.

Google is now done with children who come up with jibberish writter by 4 year olds. And to be honest, I am sick of it laying around in the trenches taking up valuable internet real estate.

RANT OVER *bows*

Hahaha. I earn more from the amazon program than 90% on this forum. Earnings isn't a problem for me. I will say that only a portion of that is from my small spun sites but I will repeat: I've already demonstrated right here in the forum that humans cannot tell the difference when spinning is done properly.

However, no real need to debate with you. Its no skin off my back. I'm still earning and that's really all that matters to me.

I am not for spinning articles the way it is normally done, but the concept is not a bad idea.

it is just that IMers as usual tried to exploit a normally ok thing for quick profits.

anyone watch the new lately and see how FOX and CNBC "spin" virtually every news story.

The idea of using base content and spinning it into a few different contexts or uses is fine. The problem comes when you try to exploit that and do it hundreds of times in 30 seconds using some software and then submit those crap articles to hundreds of places.

I have seen a lot of junk out there. Heck, I get spun comments on a few of the blogs I run all the time. I got one the other day criticizing my spelling saying the blog posts were "rife with erring form spell". Yeah, that was a helpful comment!

Anyway, my point is those who think spinning as an easy way to generate an article without any effort are seriously mistaken. Spinning helps me rewrite an article more quickly, but it is not without effort. Spun articles need to be edited for readability. I simply will not put anything out there that does not pass the "smell" test. If it stinks, I don't post it.

When you think about it, spinning done correctly is not really that much different then an article that has been syndicated and duplicated 1000 times. Professional new media does this all the time. At least with a properly spun article there is some uniqueness even if the general ideas are still the same.

My two bits worth...

You guys are spinning this conversation out of control.

Yeah, unfortunately article spinning appears to be here to stay for at least a little while longer. I've done it, and frankly hated that I even tried it. Offered no value for anyone at all.

Did you say "unfortunately"? Hehe )))

Article spinning is discussed here because it happens to be a big part of the IM world. Regardless of your opinion on it, plenty of people still use spun articles and therefore it is worth discussing.

Article spinning is on here because plainly simple IT STILL WORKS.

For now.... that is haha.

I'm sure that sooner or later SE's are going to start penalizing much heavier for it.

But right now its what works so most aren't going to try to fight and go against what already works and still works.