Affiliate Market in Squidoo?

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I am basically a complete newbie but i have heard of people starting affiliate marketing through Squidoo. Can anybody give me some tips?
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by uglynoober View Post

    I am basically a complete newbie but i have heard of people starting affiliate marketing through Squidoo. Can anybody give me some tips?
    Yes.

    Don't do it.

    Own and control your own website, right from the day you start.

    Don't use one which you can never own or control yourself, where someone else is in charge and makes up the rules and policies and procedures and can change them whenever they feel like it, and interpret them as idiosyncratically and inconsistently as they like.

    You don't need any money to have your own website for affiliate marketing. There's free hosting available, for people for whom price is an issue. (It's not always wonderful hosting, but it's better than using Squidoo as "your website").

    Who knows whether Squidoo even allows affiliate links on "your" pages? (I think they allow Amazon ones but not ClickBank ones? But that's from memory and I might be wrong, and/or it might have changed, of course). And even if they do, who knows whether they still will in 6 months' time? Who needs to worry about this sort of stuff?!

    These posts/threads might also interest you ...
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    • Profile picture of the author RogueOne
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      Who knows whether Squidoo even allows affiliate links on "your" pages? (I think they allow Amazon ones but not ClickBank ones? But that's from memory and I might be wrong, and/or it might have changed, of course). And even if they do, who knows whether they still will in 6 months' time? Who needs to worry about this sort of stuff?!
      They do still allow CB links but they have a limit on the number per page.

      But of course you are right about constant changes. Ask the thousands of people who lost pages in their last arbitrary spam crack down.

      Put your time and effort, and money into something you control.
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    • Profile picture of the author marklim81
      Hi Alexa,

      Does your advice still hold true for someone who's not tech savvy?

      I checked out some of the free hosting websites you mentioned. And I don't have a clue what's going on. =-/ Seems like I have to build a website from scratch. I don't even know how to put pictures in my blog posts...

      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      Yes.

      Don't do it.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by marklim81 View Post

        Does your advice still hold true for someone who's not tech savvy?
        Few people here (very few) are less tech savvy than I am! :p

        Originally Posted by marklim81 View Post

        I checked out some of the free hosting websites you mentioned. And I don't have a clue what's going on.
        Yes, I take your point, of course. Neither would I.

        The difficulty with Byethost (and at the moment with 000WebHost too) is that you can't install Wordpress there in a one-click operation as you can on paid hosts. And that means that you need some techie skills.

        So, the way round that is to go to Weebly, or Yola, or Blinkweb instead, and put up a site using their built-in site-builder (even I can do that!) for non-techies, and not use Wordpress until you can afford to host it somewhere on paid hosting.

        Or go to hostica.com and get proper, paid hosting for $1 per month (that's for one site only).

        Or "acquire the skills needed" to install Wordpress at Byethost (there are people here who have done that, and there is free information available, though I admit I wouldn't fancy it, myself).

        But in my opinion using Squidoo or HubPages or Blogger as "your site" is not the answer to that. For all the reasons explained at such length and in such detail in those threads linked to at the start of the thread.

        Originally Posted by marklim81 View Post

        Seems like I have to build a website from scratch.
        Maybe have a look at "Yola"? :confused:

        That's about as easy as it gets. It might get you started? And it's way better than resorting to Squidoo! :p
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        • Profile picture of the author marklim81
          Byethost doesn't allow accounts from my country (Malaysia). 000WebHost looked like it had a simple 'click a few times' thing to install Wordpress, but I couldn't figure it out.

          Is installing Wordpress a good thing? I had a previous blog on Wordpress.com, but couldn't figure out how to move that anywhere either.

          I will check out Yola.

          What's so bad about Squidoo? It seems very noob friendly.

          Thanks for the advice Alexa.

          I don't suppose you could recommend a good free newbie friendly site to host a forum as well?

          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          Few people here (very few) are less tech savvy than I am! :p



          Yes, I take your point, of course. Neither would I.

          The difficulty with Byethost (and at the moment with 000WebHost too) is that you can't install Wordpress there in a one-click operation as you can on paid hosts. And that means that you need some techie skills.

          So, the way round that is to go to Weebly, or Yola, or Blinkweb instead, and put up a site using their built-in site-builder (even I can do that!) for non-techies, and not use Wordpress until you can afford to host it somewhere on paid hosting.

          Or go to hostica.com and get proper, paid hosting for $1 per month (that's for one site only).

          Or "acquire the skills needed" to install Wordpress at Byethost (there are people here who have done that, and there is free information available, though I admit I wouldn't fancy it, myself).

          But in my opinion using Squidoo or HubPages or Blogger as "your site" is not the answer to that. For all the reasons explained at such length and in such detail in those threads linked to at the start of the thread.



          Maybe have a look at "Yola"? :confused:

          That's about as easy as it gets. It might get you started? And it's way better than resorting to Squidoo! :p
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          • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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            Originally Posted by marklim81 View Post

            000WebHost looked like it had a simple 'click a few times' thing to install Wordpress, but I couldn't figure it out.
            The last I heard was that the one-click Wordpress installation on their free accounts wasn't working, and they weren't offering a date when it would be working. (That was a few months ago).

            Originally Posted by marklim81 View Post

            Is installing Wordpress a good thing?
            It has many advantages (including great flexibility, and the availability of support, help, information, free tutorials, and so on). I don't use it myself, but most people here do.

            Originally Posted by marklim81 View Post

            I had a previous blog on Wordpress.com, but couldn't figure out how to move that anywhere either.
            No, you can't, really. Wordpress.com is a different thing. That's just a range of simple Wordpress blogs with free hosting, but no monetization or marketing is allowed there. It's for "hobby/social bloggers", really, not for internet marketing. The terms of service are very restrictive indeed.

            Originally Posted by marklim81 View Post

            What's so bad about Squidoo?
            This questions's answered in huge detail in all the posts/threads linked to in my original reply at the top of the thread.

            Originally Posted by marklim81 View Post

            It seems very noob friendly.
            And that's exactly why so many Warriors have tried it, regretted it, and now so regularly explain why they're urging others not to make the same mistake.

            Originally Posted by marklim81 View Post

            I don't suppose you could recommend a good free newbie friendly site to host a forum as well?
            Sorry, not exactly my line of country. I do actually have a forum, but it's on paid hosting (and far from cheap). My understanding is that "free forum hosts" will typically cover your site in advertising, and that's how they monetize their business model. You might be able to do it at Byethost (but that one's no good to you). Possibly at 000WebHost? They have a users' forum you could read through, and/or you might be able to ask there. Others will know more than I do about this.
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            • Profile picture of the author think more
              owning your own website is the safest way to make money online. Use squidoo as a secondary site.Then drive traffic to your primary website with the squidoo lens. squidoo is good for creating backlinks and driving traffic.

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            • Profile picture of the author marklim81
              Ok, thanks for all the enlightening info Alexa. Think my next step will be to check out Yola.

              All the best to you!

              Regards
              Mark

              Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

              The last I heard was that the one-click Wordpress installation on their free accounts wasn't working, and they weren't offering a date when it would be working. (That was a few months ago).



              It has many advantages (including great flexibility, and the availability of support, help, information, free tutorials, and so on). I don't use it myself, but most people here do.



              No, you can't, really. Wordpress.com is a different thing. That's just a range of simple Wordpress blogs with free hosting, but no monetization or marketing is allowed there. It's for "hobby/social bloggers", really, not for internet marketing. The terms of service are very restrictive indeed.



              This questions's answered in huge detail in all the posts/threads linked to in my original reply at the top of the thread.



              And that's exactly why so many Warriors have tried it, regretted it, and now so regularly explain why they're urging others not to make the same mistake.



              Sorry, not exactly my line of country. I do actually have a forum, but it's on paid hosting (and far from cheap). My understanding is that "free forum hosts" will typically cover your site in advertising, and that's how they monetize their business model. You might be able to do it at Byethost (but that one's no good to you). Possibly at 000WebHost? They have a users' forum you could read through, and/or you might be able to ask there. Others will know more than I do about this.
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    • Profile picture of the author lsargent
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      Yes.

      Don't do it.

      Own and control your own website, right from the day you start.
      There's plenty of Squidoo nay sayers out there, and an equal amount of supporters. One of my recent customers came to me wanting to rebuild his business because his $15K/mo. website got slapped by Google and now he's down to $400/mo. Yet all my Squidoo lenses went through these updates unscathed.

      Owning your own site and going it alone with Google can in some regards be an even riskier approach versus having an authority & trust presence at your back.
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  • Profile picture of the author SandraLarkin
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    I agree with Alexa.

    Buy a domain, install wordpress, go from there. You have complete ownership, you can build off of it, you can sell it, you can do whatever you want with it, and it IS cheap.
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  • Profile picture of the author mmallor
    All I have to say is Alexa is very smart and as I've read her posts, she seems to get smarter. Hence, I'd say follow her advice!
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  • Profile picture of the author Oliver Orbitz
    Hey, uglynoober.

    As others have said, ultimately, owning your own domain and online assets is the best way to go. However, you are asking about getting into squidoo with affiliate marketing because your starting out. I think this is an excellent idea, and it is how many, if not most in this business got their start. Personally, I would recommend to get started with squidoo as opposed to other websites like hubpages.

    I would definitely have you ask yourself what your goals are. Squidoo is excellent for a high-risk income stream. You can make a lot of money with squidoo, as well as other similar websites, in a fairly short period of time if you know what your doing. In the near future I will be releasing a free video course on this exact subject, so you can lookout for that.

    So, in my opinion, starting out with squidoo to get a feel for affiliate marketing is an excellent choice, nothing wrong with it at all. Just understand that creating income streams with websites that you do not own is a high-risk opportunity. As others have said, any number of negative things can happen. A personal tip I would give to you, if you do get into affiliate marketing with squidoo, I would promote physical products through the amazon associates program before you try to promote an info products, such as those from clickbank.
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  • Profile picture of the author JustinDupre
    It's difficult to do affiliate marketing over at Squidoo since they can easily disable your page. Better get your own domain and paid hosting, this gives you full control of your site.
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    • Profile picture of the author uglynoober
      Are there any products that I should get as a newbie? And would Squidoo be a good source for backlinks?
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by uglynoober View Post

        would Squidoo be a good source for backlinks?
        No better than any other page you own and control yourself.

        And worse in many ways, for the reasons explained in the threads linked to above. One of the threads linked to in my original reply, above, addresses that exact question (and gives the answer "no"). :p

        Specifically, don't imagine that because Squidoo's own home page has a high page rank that backlinks to your main site from your Squidoo page are going to be good. That's like imagining that backlinks from Ezine Articles will be good because Ezine Articles' own home page is PR-6. It's true but it isn't relevant, because your articles aren't published on Ezine Articles' own home page. They're on their own PR-0 pages. And similarly, with Squidoo, your lens won't be on their own home page. Yes, you can build a Squidoo lens and increase its page rank by building up someone else's site rather than your own, but it's a bit silly, and completely unnecessary, because you can just as easily do that elsewhere for pages you own rather than for pages they own. Added to which, linkjuice is primarily determined by context-relevance now, anyway, as Google has been explaining - and that's context-relevance of the site overall, not just the page on which the backlink appears. You don't need Squidoo, and the two groups of people here who will tell you that you do are (a) people selling Squidoo services/lenses/information/WSO's, and (b) graduates of the Urban Myth School of Internet Marketing.
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        • Profile picture of the author RogueOne
          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          graduates of the Urban Myth School of Internet Marketing.
          They're stubborn little alumni.:rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Get your own website, get an autoresponder, build a list, and market to your list over and over again with your affiliate product.
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  • Profile picture of the author aawedev
    I have been using Squidoo for over 3 and 1/2 years now.I have over a dozen Squidoo lenses that come up in the #1 position on Google for dozens of different keywords. I sell my own products and I sell affiliate products as well. Squidoo is the best resource for getting top positioning for affiliate advertising that I know of. It’s free to use, so you don’t have to spend money on Facebook or Google Pay-Per-Click.
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  • Profile picture of the author kislany
    Squidoo allows CB links, as long as they're not the main focus on a lens and as long as the lens is not about one of the Squidont topics (the usual suspects, diet, weight loss, reverse lookup, watching movies online, etc). Otherwise it's a perfectly good way to earn money online, despite whatever some people say, especially when you're just starting out.

    Sure it has its dangers - they could delete or lock a lens, Squidoo could disappear any day, bla bla, but so does any other form of marketing. Google can wipe our your rankings in an instant with a new animal they're coming up with, or competition is too fierce, or you don't have money when starting out...nothing is without its perks.

    The important thing is to start with something and stick with it at least for a good while until you've really learned it well. Then you can experience success with anything - including Squidoo. Just make sure you avoid running after the next shiny thing, because then you'll fail.

    I've started last September a Squidoo experiment, started with $25 payment from Squidoo...now I'm close to reaching a 4 digit number per month only from Squidoo (this not including my own Amazon sales from the Squidoo lenses). Yes, it's slow going, yes it can be cumbersome, yes many people earn way more than that - but many people after a full year can only say they've hardly earned a cent. *shrugs*
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  • Profile picture of the author blogworker
    I agree with Alexa too. In a long run, your own site is highly needed.
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  • Profile picture of the author vCr8
    For starters squidoo could be a good area, but then again as the comments above have stated sooner or later you should start building your own website since you gain full control on your pages. However squidoo still allows CB links but the Amazon and e-bay links have their own modules which makes it easier to integrate such affiliate products. This can also be a good way to build your backlinks since squidoo lenses are also doing good in google rankings.
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    • Profile picture of the author matt78
      Squidoo is a good place for a newbie to start and learn about affiliate marketing. It's free, easy to build and can rank pretty well with proper backlinking. I have lots of lenses that rank on Google 1st page for several buying keywords.

      Once you've learn how affiliate marketing works, what products sells well and start making money from Squidoo ..you can then use the money to start buying domain name and hosting and build your own affiliate websites which will then be the source of your long term income.
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      • Profile picture of the author adamj2
        Yes, I would not use Squidoo as the main source of your affiliate promotions.

        But I would say, sure go ahead and create Squidoo lenses in addition to your main website.

        I have noticed that Squidoo lenses are starting to rise back up again in the rankings.

        The pages also tend to increase in PR quite well, especially if you interact and comment on other high PR lenses to pass the link juice to your profile, and you can get a good high PR backlink or two pointing from them to your main website.

        So whilst I don't recommend doing Squidoo instead of your main website, I don't see the harm in ranking both your website and a squidoo lens right up there on Google.
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        • Profile picture of the author MP80
          Seek out, and listen to people who are already successful at it, and not just those who have never used it (or 'tried it and it didn't work for me' :rolleyes You could look for threads here, WSO's, and even lenses explaining how it is done.

          Read the 'Terms of Use' very carefully, as these can change over time (as a few people have already mentioned.)

          Backup your content, just as you would with your own site.

          Plenty of people leverage not only squidoo, but also facebook, youtube, warriorforum, amazon, hubpages, etc, for a good income. The site used is a personal choice based on what is the best fit for your individual tastes, needs, and circumstances.
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  • Profile picture of the author sriram rajan
    Squidoo is still an high authority site and people make good money, dont take that off the radar , have it as one of the plans in your big picture...
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  • Profile picture of the author marketwarrior06
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    I use Squidoo for List building only. no direct link to my offer. just in the landing page where I have a subscription for them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nathan2525
    Originally Posted by uglynoober View Post

    I am basically a complete newbie but i have heard of people starting affiliate marketing through Squidoo. Can anybody give me some tips?
    Hey,

    I have done quite a lot with Squidoo so here is my 2 bits.

    1. Don't put your premium content on Squidoo.
    (build your business not theirs)

    2. Build links to your lenses to get multiple page 1 rankings

    3. Use Squidoo to rank your other properties as they are good
    links.

    Hope this helps
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  • Profile picture of the author ProScribe
    Squidoo has never been a major part of my online strategy, but I have had some success with squidoo lens and they can be a good way to make money if you don't want to build out a full site to promote a product.

    When writing your lens, just try to come across as authentic as possible, Discuss a problem that you have had, and then describe how the product solved that problem. Do some basic backlinking to move your lens up in the SERPs.

    Check out the products that squidoo doesn't like you to promote before you start and you shouldn't have any problems. I have promoted clickbank products and never had a lens taken down.
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    • Profile picture of the author marklim81
      Thanks for the advice. I do hope my writing feels authentic, as I mostly like to write about my interests, as opposed to trying to make a living doing online marketing. Just thought it would be nice to make some side income from it while I'm at it, and also wouldn't really be happy if the site I was using just got taken down or deleted all my writing.

      Forgive the ignorance, but I don't even know what a clickbank is...

      Originally Posted by ProScribe View Post

      Squidoo has never been a major part of my online strategy, but I have had some success with squidoo lens and they can be a good way to make money if you don't want to build out a full site to promote a product.

      When writing your lens, just try to come across as authentic as possible, Discuss a problem that you have had, and then describe how the product solved that problem. Do some basic backlinking to move your lens up in the SERPs.

      Check out the products that squidoo doesn't like you to promote before you start and you shouldn't have any problems. I have promoted clickbank products and never had a lens taken down.
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  • Profile picture of the author gabrielradu
    Don't do it on squidoo. They have scripts who search for affiliate related words.. and close your lens.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jacob Lot
    Lately I've heard that Squidoo has been cracking down on some affiliates (the ones that are throwing up garbage content). So if you plan to do any AM, make sure you are putting out good content.

    By the way, there is no real benefit of doing AM on Squidoo as I have found that lenses don't rank well anymore.
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    • Profile picture of the author cashp0wer
      I agree with what everyone else is saying. It is much smarter to start up your own website. It does not cost very much money and you won it and can do with it what you want.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bruce NewMedia
      Originally Posted by Jacob Lot View Post

      Lately I've heard that Squidoo has been cracking down on some affiliates (the ones that are throwing up garbage content). So if you plan to do any AM, make sure you are putting out good content.

      By the way, there is no real benefit of doing AM on Squidoo as I have found that lenses don't rank well anymore.
      If true, then there would be no reason at all to use Squidoo.

      As far as having to pay for hosting to set up your own website, are folks aware you can get unlimited shared hosting from places like T35 for $3.99 a month?

      I wouldn't even mess around with 'free hosts' when such low cost alternatives (with actual support) are widely available.
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  • Profile picture of the author DramaConvention
    Select a niche you are interested in or something you can talk about. Writing some promotional articles to promote products from Amazon or Clickbank.
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  • Profile picture of the author samjaynz
    I wouldn't recommend it. Squidoo (and other Web 2.0 sites) are better used for targeting "long-tail" keywords and then driving traffic to your "money" site.

    Any Adsense or Ad Program revenue share that you make along the way is an added bonus; but don't go relying on it.

    You can get a .com domain name and hosting for 1 year for under $20. If you're not willing to invest that, don't even bother starting!
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  • Profile picture of the author Affiliate Ninja
    Start a blog on Blogger before Squidoo. It will cost you no $ and you can drive traffic useing Pintrest. I get 1200 to 1600 visitors a day from Pinterest to my recipe blog. Cost me nothing and makes me a good Adsense/Amazon check every month.

    But starting your own website is the best way to go but will have little cost like hosting, domain ect...
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  • Profile picture of the author AmandaT
    Honestly I have no problem ranking lenses. It is all about picking the right topic. While having your own site is great, Squidoo is really nice for people who want to be able to write about a variety of things without needing to buy more domains or set up more sites. If you really want to dig into a niche, I do suggest starting your own site though.
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  • Profile picture of the author TiffanyLambert
    Well I'll chime in here

    Yes, use Squidoo! Not as an "only" option but in conjunction with your own sites. I love to use Squidoo as an affiliate, ESPECIALLY for testing niches or product lines to see how they fare before I go off building a whole site for it.

    Here are my tips:

    1. Make sure you abide by the rules as far as topics and link numbers (9 I think?) so your lens doesn't get shut down.

    2. Use a mix of text modules and Amazon if applicable. MOST of my affiliate income stemming from lenses is from text links in the content.

    3. Write good content for your lens.

    I like to use Squidoo because if the lens ranks well, then I can have a top spot, along with my own WordPress blog to get double the exposure.

    I often tell people who say they can't invest in anything (hosting, domain, etc) to start off on Squidoo and then move on to a domain.

    Also, books sell better than anything else on Squidoo. So do toys. And Halloween costumes, etc.

    Tiff
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  • Profile picture of the author AmandaT
    Great tips Tiff! My seasonal lenses all seem to do great there. And you are right about the double exposure! I love being able to search for one of my keywords and see my site and my lens in the top 5!

    While I know some people that do well selling high end items on Squidoo, I do really well selling small items for $10-50 or even really cheap items that people buy in bulk.
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  • Profile picture of the author Manoj V
    Originally Posted by uglynoober View Post

    I am basically a complete newbie but i have heard of people starting affiliate marketing through Squidoo. Can anybody give me some tips?
    The advantage of building your own site is that you own it and can do whatever you want with it. It takes time and effort to rank your own site. It may take you several months to reach the first ten pages of Google for a competitive keyword and maybe less for page one for a keyword with low competition. But in the end you may feel that it was worth it especially if you are ranking on spot number one on Google's page one. Google handles about 90% of web traffic with the rest being handled by Bing and Yahoo. Even if you decide to sell your site you will get a good value for a high ranking website with revenue if you list you website on Flippa.

    Trouble is that a vast majority of affiliates do not reach that far and give up midway when they realize that it does indeed take too much time and effort to rank their site. You will see several posts lamenting about getting no conversions from clicks on their affiliate sites. The reason is that people who stray to pages beyond page one on Google are mere browsers of information and not buyers who may click but not buy. You need to be amongst the first five page one results to see any serious amount of sales take place through your site.

    Prospective buyers do not look beyond the first page of Google when they look for reviews of products and if your site appears on one of the inner pages of Google you may find that even a $10 investment for a new domain was not worth it. If you decide to sell your site you will find that there are no buyers for low ranking sites especially those without any revenue to show.

    Articles on Squidoo have been known to rank easily especially for low competition keywords. For such keywords writing a unique article with good on-page SEO optiization may be enough to see it rank on page one. For keywords with medium to high competition some amount of backlinking may be necessary. It takes much less effort to earn from a Squidoo lens than from your own site.

    What you need to be careful about on Squidoo is not to violate any of their terms and conditions. If you do you could lose your lens and account. They have a long list of niches, articles on which are not allowed on their site. If your article appears to be falling in one of the prohibited niches you may not see your lens published. If your lens seems to have a very high sales pitch or have too many affiliate links then again it could be a problem for you.

    Owning a site/ having your lens on Squidoo have their pros and cons. Ultimately it is up to you to decide your course of action based on your strengths and goals pertaining to internet marketing. If your aim is to rank fast go with a Squidoo lens but if you would prefer having your own site that you are confident of ranking well build your own site.

    If you visit Squidoo you will find many authors maintaining hundreds of lenses with all or most of them promoting Amazon products. Quite a few of them have been around for a long period of time which indicates that there could be something good about having a lens on Squdoo:-).

    Some own websites and use Squidoo to complement their site while building backlinks to their lens. Too many backlinks to your own site can harm your site's ranking while many backlinks to a Squidoo lens may actually make it stronger in the serps.
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