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Article Submission and Duplicate Content

by Patchworks
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I'm trying to get some clarification on the issue of submitting article to the article directories, but if you do, can you still use the same article on your own website?

How about it the link in the article points to the domain of the original content?
#article #content #duplicate #submission
  • Profile picture of the author LordXenu
    Bukisa allows duplicate content for their submissions, so long as you own the content you're good to go...
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  • Profile picture of the author artwebster
    You can use the article on your own sites but some article sites insist that you post to them before you post to your own sites.
    The question of duplicate content has been done to death in these boards - duplicate content is content duplicated within a site. Think about it carefully - if there are 1,000,000 sites about dog training and each site has 10 articles, what are the chances that in the resulting 10,000,000 articles there will be loads of duplicates?
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    • Profile picture of the author JonStein
      Originally Posted by artwebster View Post

      You can use the article on your own sites but some article sites insist that you post to them before you post to your own sites.
      The question of duplicate content has been done to death in these boards - duplicate content is content duplicated within a site. Think about it carefully - if there are 1,000,000 sites about dog training and each site has 10 articles, what are the chances that in the resulting 10,000,000 articles there will be loads of duplicates?

      Good point, however Google defines duplicate content as

      "Duplicate content generally refers to substantive blocks of content within or across domains that either completely match other content or are appreciably similar...As a result, the ranking of the site may suffer, or the site might be removed entirely from the Google index, in which case it will no longer appear in search results."


      This means that content even on other domains are subject to a duplicate content penalty not just on the same domain.
      Substantive blocks of content refers to a large percentage of the same content (65% or more according to my research)
      Basically, Google will give less weight to sites which have a substantially large amount of content similar to other sites, and therefore your ranking will suffer as well as the value of your adsense $$ clicks.

      All of this info is clearly spelled out in Googles Webmaster Tools and Support Q&A.

      Personally, I spin each individual article I submit to each directory, this practice has ranked my pages higher on Google, and in one case my keyword phrase dominates the entire first page with 7 out of 10 results pointing to my articles.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
        Originally Posted by JonStein View Post

        Good point, however Google defines duplicate content as

        "Duplicate content generally refers to substantive blocks of content within or across domains that either completely match other content or are appreciably similar...As a result, the ranking of the site may suffer, or the site might be removed entirely from the Google index, in which case it will no longer appear in search results."


        This means that content even on other domains are subject to a duplicate content penalty not just on the same domain.
        What happens with duplicate content is Google divides the page rank among the duplicate pages, they don't actually penalize a site unless they believe the dupe content is a spam attempt. Having the page rank divided may seem like a penalty, but it's not.
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  • Profile picture of the author locke
    I think you make a good point Artwebster but I have done some serious research regarding this topic and I think that in regard to links, Google prefers to credit you if they come in what appears to be original content... This is where spinning articles comes into play, something that people may call a grey area in regard to SEO, it is perfectly acceptable.. I recommend spinning articles even for the article directories... If anyone wants to know more about this practice I would recommend checking out a site called jetsubmitter.com, they offer a free article spinning service that is fantastic...
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      My experience is from submitting articles for several years - I put the article on my site and then I submit it (usually after site page is indexed). No problems as I can't violate my own copyright.

      If you want to spin for different directories, you can - but you don't have to do that for syndicating articles.

      Use the search button here and enter the keywords "duplicate content" (without quotes) in the advanced search.

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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Alexander
    I'd suggest you spin before use everytime. That way, I've managed to 'dominate' the first page of google for terms that would normally just get me one entry - the most important. It's the best way to get maximum effect from your article.
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    • Profile picture of the author sachibhat
      After your article get accepted in the article directory you can use it on your website
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  • Profile picture of the author markvurnum
    Hi

    It depends on if you are using articles to get traffic (ie using ezine articles) which ranks highly on its own and can get you traffic from people who read the article and click through on your link. Otherwise it's article marketing for linking purposes.

    I like to think of the two seperate. I create quailty content for my website, then submit it to ezine articles and 4 or 5 other top article directories, this will get me traffic through the readers.

    Then I spin or rewrite articles and submit them out for linking purposes. I don't worry too much about the quality as these are link bait only...

    Some I am sure will disagree but this works well for me!

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author danemorgan
    Originally Posted by JonStein

    This means that content even on other domains are subject to a duplicate content penalty not just on the same domain.
    Substantive blocks of content refers to a large percentage of the same content (65% or more according to my research)
    Basically, Google will give less weight to sites which have a substantially large amount of content similar to other sites, and therefore your ranking will suffer as well as the value of your adsense $$ clicks.
    You are applying a very narrow interpretation to a very broad statement, and some simple testing and research would quickly demonstrate that the conclusion you have drawn is false.

    A "Penalty" isn't even mentioned in the quote you pulled. There is no mathematical "penalty" applied to a site that has content duplicated across domains. However, most of those pages are not going to fare well in the SERPS simply because it is not in Google's best interest to show a searcher the same article 20 times on the first page of the results. So ONE of the sites will rank as normal and the rest will filter down to the bottom of the SERPS. That ONE will be selected through the normal process of ranking and will rank as though there were no duplicate content out there.

    Where "Penalties" and removal come in to play are when you do things like writing one article and swapping out a set of keywords in it so that you have hundreds or even thousands of identical articles on your site execpt for the three or four keyword phrases that differ from page to page. There are other examples of things that can actually bring penalties, but it's not likely many people here are actually trying to do them.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
    Originally Posted by Patchworks View Post

    I'm trying to get some clarification on the issue of submitting article to the article directories, but if you do, can you still use the same article on your own website?

    How about it the link in the article points to the domain of the original content?
    You certainly can use the same article, the dup penalty is a myth started by some just to rake in cash for their spinners.

    I dominate 7 out 10 listings on google out of 23 million results for just one of my keywords and all the articles are exactly the same, just on different domains.

    With that being said though....

    You are first and foremost best to post your article on your own site, for example your blog.. Don't have a blog then install one for free and post on it. Then after you post your original to your blog take your article and use a proper spinner (yes, some do exist) and spin your article and then post it on article directories.

    Some articles I spin while others I do not, depends greatly on the time I have at that moment. It is good practice though to spin your article after posting the original to your site.

    James
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  • Profile picture of the author Patchworks
    Well thanks guys for all the debate back and forth. I'm getting the general concenses that spinning the article is a good concept!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author bigmoney4me
    Hi,

    If I am using the same article on my site as one submitted to a directory, I generally try to rewrite it so that it is at least 25-30% unique. When submitting to the various directories, I also vary the anchor text so it looks more natural.
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