Is it hard to make 30K a year from writing?

by ckbank
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What's the best possible route for doing this? Sites such as Elance? Self-publishing? What do you think?
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  • Profile picture of the author TroyCo
    Shouldn't be to hard with some effort and skill of course. The best way in my opinion would be to brand yourself, offer some cheap introductory work to build a name for yourself, get some testimonials and keep working at it!

    ps really great copywriters can make 30k for a single job
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  • Profile picture of the author John Rogers
    I suspect there are quite a few on here who make $30k+ solely from writing, so I'll step aside and let the real experts chime in, but I will say that $2500 per month is definitely do-able.
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  • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
    I'm the author of three books. All on Createspace on Amazon.

    I have other sources of income, but those books will net me about $30,000 this year. Just from the book sales. This involves a deep understanding of how to promote your book on Createspace. It isn't just writing.

    I have a friend who has written 11 cookbooks on Createspace. These are compiled recipes, not her own. She'll do about $50,000 this year just from book sales. But she also knows how to promote her books on Amazon.

    You can knock out about one good book a month, if you work at it. Everything you do after the first book is easy.
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    • Profile picture of the author ckbank
      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

      I'm the author of three books. All on Createspace on Amazon.

      I have other sources of income, but those books will net me about $30,000 this year. Just from the book sales. This involves a deep understanding of how to promote your book on Createspace. It isn't just writing.

      I have a friend who has written 11 cookbooks on Createspace. These are compiled recipes, not her own. She'll do about $50,000 this year just from book sales. But she also knows how to promote her books on Amazon.

      You can knock out about one good book a month, if you work at it. Everything you do after the first book is easy.
      Claud. I think you might be a man of many talents. LOL. I applaud you trying your hand at various things. Sales, writing, IM and etc. You might be a modern day Da Vinci.
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      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
        Originally Posted by ckbank View Post

        Claude. I think you might be a man of many talents. LOL. I applaud you trying your hand at various things. Sales, writing, IM and etc. You might be a modern day Da Vinci.
        Thank you. But really it's all marketing. And learning how to use Createspace to publish a book and Amazon.com to market it really only took a week of solid effort.

        Writing and publishing books and CDs is becoming almost effortless.

        Oh yeah, after you write your book, read it into a microphone and now you have a book on CD. Amazon is very generous with their royalties.

        Good luck, Claude
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  • Profile picture of the author forganics
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    It's not hard at all. Run a couple websites and build them up. You should be on track to earn at least $30k/year after your first month if you have good content and promote them well.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rose Anderson
    If you're writing for other people on sites such as elance I think it will be hard. I would suggest doing some writing for yourself so you have other forms of income such as Kindle.

    Another option is to move into higher paying types of writing such as copywriting.

    Writing for offline clients who are willing to pay better rates is another way to go.

    So the answer is -- it is possible -- but I wouldn't say it is easy. At least, not when you first start.

    Rose
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Ten
    I don't think that it is easy to earn $30,000 a year from writing, but I also don't think that it has to be hard, either.
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  • Profile picture of the author Greedy
    The best way to make money writing is to start a really good blog, helping people to learn something. Not so much for entertainment.

    You can definitely hit your goal, if you build it right.
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  • Profile picture of the author theaccountant
    30K a year is not a fulltime income.

    You should be asking 300k a year.

    I am sure that there are quite a few making that in these forums , if not then I would be quite stunned and disappointed
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  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    $30k is not too hard to reach IF you work consistently and build your business. My income comes from writing, proofreading and a couple of other sources and I know that goal is certainly achievable.
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  • Profile picture of the author ymest
    Hi there,

    First of all, it depends on your ability to write-- and by this I mean not just the basic skills-- but which formats? E-books, articles, reports, press releases, sales pages etc!

    Second, how good are you at marketing your services? If you have a site up , then marketing it BIG TIME and display good samples of your work! Drive traffic to this site, which you should consider as a money site...not as a blog! My own opinion of course!

    You could specialize in a few areas! I think sales pages bring in most money but you have to be a seasoned copywriter to ask for big $$$$!

    You should stay away from Elance and all other freelance platforms; the competition is ridiculously high; marketers play a game called "low-balling" between them, whereas they get in touch to drive prices down! You end up with little to nothing and freelance sites take a cut too! It's best to spend a portion of your day advertising your services and why not start here! There is a hire section, that's where I started!

    If you are looking for a very good course, PM me, I'll give you the name!

    Good luck with it all

    Yoan
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  • Profile picture of the author theaccountant
    is the hard luck story still the most effective copy
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    • Profile picture of the author AprilCT
      Originally Posted by theaccountant View Post

      is the hard luck story still the most effective copy
      I've seen that used recently in various ways. But to honestly assess it? People are tired of these stories, me included. While I don't think anyone minds a brief - a truly brief - mention of why the marketer got started doing something and has done well for him or herself, the story is old, tired and overused. It's past time to move on to something else.

      The story of the marketer usually goes on to include pictures of grand homes, cars, beautiful people, million dollar fortunes, etc. and some screen shots showing giant incomes. It lacks integrity and just make me laugh. Enough already!
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      • Profile picture of the author MyNewMama
        The key is having a variety of sources....and of course the ability to write. Content is something that every business needs, so it's something you can do full time.

        Learning how to write in different forms will also help with your income, such as article writing, press release writing, sales letter writing, technical writing, grant writing, proposal writing, etc.

        You can charge different rates for each service.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tyler S
    It is difficult in general to make a career out of writing.
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  • Profile picture of the author voiceofreason
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    Not difficult at all - I helped a friend do that and more when she suddenly found herself unemployed.

    1. Made sure she brushed up on her copywriting skills

    2. Had he write 10 sample articles

    3. Had her join Elance and 1 other freelance network

    4. She did her first few jobs super cheap - Just to build her portfolio

    5. As she gained raving fan testimonials, she toggled up her fee's

    6. Had her RSS Craigslist for copywriting jobs

    --- That's it... It wasn't that complicated. Between the freelance networks and Craigslist she gained enough popularity to start getting referrals. Once the referrals started, the income took care of itself.

    Not only that but you really have to open your eyes to how much business is out there just waiting for you. I mean, every business you buy from is a potential client. We'd be at a restaurant chatting up the owners: "Hey, you're the best cafe in town!" "Thanks! So happy you like us! So what do you do?" "Oh I help restaurants make more money..." "Oh reeeaaallllyyy... How do you do that?"

    So that is a tad bit over-simplified, but not by much. 30K yearly for a good writer is the low end of the scale if you keep your eyes open and start viewing every business you are a customer of - As a warm lead in desperate need of your services...
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  • Profile picture of the author MartinPlatt
    Offering a valuable service - definitely.

    To start with, until you develop yourself as a brand, use freelancing sites - definitely.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tiptopcat
    It seems like one of the best ways to earn your 30k a year is to work hard on perfecting your writing skills first. Once you are confident and you have worked on several assignments from the freelancing websites like Odesk and Elance, you should look to set up your own website.

    If you have a specialist subject area, start researching the type of companies that could use this sort of content.

    Definitely look at creating your own ebooks and kindles so that you are setting up passive income streams.

    You could also try setting up a PLR store, which is also a great semi passive income stream.

    Good luck with it. I hope to be able to see my earnings head towards the 30k area. I still have a long ways to go but I am taking my baby steps now.
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonBennet
    I would say it is definitely achievable but it will not be easy either especially if the person is new and does not have much skill of offer to the marketplace. Some warriors has already mention several methods on getting clients and it will be a good starting ground.

    Offer a service that the market need and focus on marketing the services.
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  • Profile picture of the author tomerep
    i think you cant get that enough money if you just work as a writer. or maybe if you can publish a book, then you can get that amount of money. but its too hard, since your just here online. you should try out being an entrepreneur if you want to reach 30k.
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  • Profile picture of the author Theduke2011
    To be honest, it would be a chore unless you really like to write. I could see someone making $100+ a day if they are really motivated. But again, you would be writing 6-8 hours per day everyday. But yeah, 30k is very do-able.
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  • Profile picture of the author akif
    If you really wish to achieve this much of earnings in just one year from writing then you must make up your mind strictly and specifically to this line. Start your own work and master your art. If you already have done that then target big guns and showcase your work to them, best way is brand yourself and market to the best niche! and best audience! Good luck as i can see alot of positive replies in this thread
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  • Profile picture of the author Theduke2011
    Once you make a name for yourself, outsource, outsource, outsource! That is when your workload gets to be too much, then you can make unbelievable profits.
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  • Profile picture of the author KimboJim
    I often make much more than 30K, so it is possible. Get some experience from places like TextBroker, iWriter, Elance and Freelancer. Once you know the craft, then offer your services here, make your own website, then outsource so that you can gain more clients.

    By that time you should be making much more than 30K if you are persistent.
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  • Profile picture of the author Silas Hart
    My guy makes more than that. I asked him about it one time, he says that it's easy its just that people who write spend 99% of their time trying to find clients.
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    Most the posts in here are lacking the thinking outside the box here, and limiting yourself to the 30k per year.

    It comes down to 3 main things.

    1) The way you write is different and high quality.

    2) They way you market yourself to high quality clients with lots of money.

    3) What proof to you have to sign up these bigger clients.

    of these all 3 are important.

    If you can do all three of these things well, and work hard, you would probably only have to work with one or two big clients, and not be that article writer on the WSO section, hunting for 40 clients a week to make your wage.

    Think smarter, and work smarter. Hunt for bigger clients, who do not mind writing you bigger checks, and you could make 60k or even more per year.

    Think big, chase the big fish in other words. If you are worth your cheese, it will not be too hard at all.
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