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I seem to be getting varying answer in regards to this depending on where I look.

I have a quality 550 word article on my site, do I:

a) leave it there?

b) wait until its indexed and then add the article to the usual article directories?

c) wait until its indexed and then spin the article before adding to directories?

I seem to be getting different answer depending on where I look. What is the best way to go about it, Im not even hoping for traffic from it, just quality backlinks.
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  • Profile picture of the author HzCy
    Go with c. You cant just copy and paste it, or google will see that as duplicate content.

    Just spin it a bit, so google sees it as unique.
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    • Profile picture of the author jimp74
      I aggree with HzCy, but remember that depending on the authority (if much higher) of the sites you post on may out rank your post on your blog you intend to rank high for.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by HzCy View Post

      Go with c. You cant just copy and paste it, or google will see that as duplicate content.
      Wrong.

      Google won't "see it as" duplicate content because it won't be duplicate content.

      You've confused duplicate content with syndicated content.

      They're two different things. The differences between the two are briefly explained in this post and this little article.

      Originally Posted by HzCy View Post

      Just spin it a bit, so google sees it as unique.
      That's completely wrong.

      Explained here: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7651906 <----- Please read it, HzCy, and stop repeating this nonsense. It helps nobody!

      Originally Posted by Arran82 View Post

      b) wait until its indexed and then add the article to the usual article directories?
      This, but there's very little point in submitting to more than one article directory, Arran (two at the most). What determine your traffic and your income are the other things you do with it, apart from putting it on your own site and into a directory or two: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5035794

      This thread will help you: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5068872

      And this one, too: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...marketing.html

      With apologies for putting it so bluntly, all three of the replies above are just hopelessly wrong. Those posts represent the beliefs of all the people starting off all the threads with titles like "Is Article Marketing Dead?" (It is, for them, because they have the whole thing wrong and believe a whole bunch of urban-myth-based things which simply aren't true at all).

      Sorry to be outspoken, but it becomes tiresome correcting all this stuff. If you want to learn "how it works", Arran, the 6 links I've given you, above, will between them answer about 99% of your questions, I think.

      Originally Posted by Arran82 View Post

      Im not even hoping for traffic from it, just quality backlinks.
      Quality backlinks come from relevant sites. Not from article directories.

      Article directory backlinks are close to worthless. That was so even in 2009/10, before the Panda updates (when SEO textbook writers were pointing out that 50,000 - 100,000 of those backlinks gave the same linkjuice as one backlink on a quality, relevant site), and it's all the more so, now. But that, too, was never part of the purpose of using an article directory. An article directory is only a stepping-stone to getting traffic (and backlinks, if you insist) from the relevant sites who re-publish the articles, having looked them up there (not in Google!) in their "available content-sourcing". (That's even why they're called "directories"!). In short: clearly there's no point at all in trying to use article directories for the "benefit" of their own backlinks (that's actually been true ever since I've been online, back in 2008), but of course that's never been what article directories were there for, anyway.

      The value of a backlink from any given page of the web is not somehow, magically, altered by whether or not the content to which it's attached has previously been published somewhere else (and that's the point the people mistakenly telling you to spin/change/edit your content haven't understood).
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      • Profile picture of the author jimp74
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        Wrong.

        Google won't "see it as" duplicate content because it won't be duplicate content.

        You've confused duplicate content with syndicated content.

        They're two different things. The differences between the two are briefly explained in this post and this little article.



        That's completely wrong.

        Explained here: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7651906 <----- Please read it, HzCy, and stop repeating this nonsense. It helps nobody!



        This, but there's very little point in submitting to more than one article directory, Arran (two at the most). What determine your traffic and your income are the other things you do with it, apart from putting it on your own site and into a directory or two: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5035794

        This thread will help you: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5068872

        And this one, too: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...marketing.html

        With apologies for putting it so bluntly, all three of the replies above are just hopelessly wrong. Those posts represent the beliefs of all the people starting off all the threads with titles like "Is Article Marketing Dead?" (It is, for them, because they have the whole thing wrong and believe a whole bunch of urban-myth-based things which simply aren't true at all).

        Sorry to be outspoken, but it becomes tiresome correcting all this stuff. If you want to learn "how it works", Arran, the 6 links I've given you, above, will between them answer about 99% of your questions, I think.



        Quality backlinks come from relevant sites. Not from article directories.

        Article directory backlinks are close to worthless. That was so even in 2009/10, before the Panda updates (when SEO textbook writers were pointing out that 50,000 - 100,000 of those backlinks gave the same linkjuice as one backlink on a quality, relevant site), and it's all the more so, now. But that, too, was never part of the purpose of using an article directory. An article directory is only a stepping-stone to getting traffic (and backlinks, if you insist) from the relevant sites who re-publish the articles, having looked them up there (not in Google!) in their "available content-sourcing". (That's even why they're called "directories"!). In short: clearly there's no point at all in trying to use article directories for the "benefit" of their own backlinks (that's actually been true ever since I've been online, back in 2008), but of course that's never been what article directories were there for, anyway.

        The value of a backlink from any given page of the web is not somehow, magically, altered by whether or not the content to which it's attached has previously been published somewhere else (and that's the point the people mistakenly telling you to spin/change/edit your content haven't understood).
        Hi Alexa Smith; I like to chat with you sometime please pm me.

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  • Profile picture of the author higherluv
    Lots of article directories are being stickly about unique content. You would probably have to rewrite it several times (not "spin" it necessarily) in order to add it to many directories.

    I don't think GoArticles has that rule though... at least not the last time I saw.
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  • Profile picture of the author Arran82
    so would putting an exact same article on a 2.0 site be ok as well?
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Arran82 View Post

      so would putting an exact same article on a 2.0 site be ok as well?
      Ok for some Web 2.0 sites - not for others. Whenever you post on a site you don't yourself own, it's essential to read their terms of service.

      Again, if you're thinking of doing it "for backlinks" ("why?!?!?!"), bear in mind that linkjuice is determined primarily by the relevance of the site (not the page) on which they appear. Web 2.0 sites are not relevant sites.

      Article marketing isn't about backlinks and SEO, Arran. It's a traffic-generation method in its own right, which transcends SEO.

      Google-dependency is no way to build a business, is it? Personally, I'd advise you not to put too much of your time and effort into trying to attract SEO traffic, for two main reasons: first, it's very precarious, makes your business Google-dependent, and any business that's Google-dependent is no more than one algorithm-change away from a potential accident (or even a potential disaster), as so many Warriors have been finding out over the last year or two, some of them to their very great cost; secondly, for me, search engine traffic has been uniformly the worst-converting traffic out of everything I've ever tried - search engine visitors to all my websites typically stay the least time, view the fewest pages, opt in the least often and actually buy anything by far the least often. I admit I do get tons of search engine traffic to all my main sites (because high rankings happen to be a minor side-benefit of the major targeted traffic-generation method I use, which brings me relevant backlinks) but I'd hate to have to make a living just from that traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author Simiv68
    If you follow what Alexa says and read through the links she posted, you will see results. I am speaking from first hand experience. You will start getting targeted (related niche) traffic and isn't that what you really want from your work?
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  • Profile picture of the author mario23
    Don't spin the article, just rewrite it after it gets indexed.
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  • Profile picture of the author RachelLily
    go for C. or if its really good, why not sell it with the deserving price?
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  • Profile picture of the author art72
    A & B definitely.

    Don't see much point in C

    In layman's terms, what possible good can spinning a 550 word article serve?

    The core of the internet rests on providing information. There too, information is collected in hope to be of benefit to you or someone else. Of what benefit does a spun-up article provide anyone?

    IMHO None!
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonBennet
    Another thing that you can do is to re purpose your content by converting it into another medium like video, pdf document and others. This will give you maximum leverage of your content.
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    • Profile picture of the author passiveincomebiz
      And even if spinning made sense it is just easier time -wise and for better readability to just rewrite the article.
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