'Money is in the List" what List? :)

List at most 5 month OLD, NO legit Opt-in list, did't bought anything, generated myself. Didn't send much to it just yet, maybe few campaigns over last period, since I wait till list was at least 400-500 before sending anything.

Jason, you can get started fast and easy with AWeber.com and LeadPages.net Using these tools, you don't even need a website right away, though I strongly recommend you get one as soon as possible.

THE primary thing you should be concerned with is building a list of target prospects. Always be building you list -- and never stop. Then learn to talk to them and make offers to them.

Hope that helps!

Michelle

Email marketing will never die. It is part of the whole marketing system.

It is where you can make your first impression and unfortunately you can only make one good one.

Even if a list is dead, if you just change your approach from shovinh products down peoples throat and actually create conversation that stirs up their inner core and desires then you may get a few live ones

I send out emails before I sleep and broadcast them to send morning 8 am and 8pm (best times for them ) and I hardly promote my producs and affiliate.

Instead I try stories the they can relate to or video tutorials that answers their problems

Remember they signed up to YOUR list! At one point or time they were interested with your idea.

You just have to give them VALUE and overdeliver with it.

First I'll address your comment about it being a "new approach". Relationship building with subscribers and an audience is as old as marketing itself. There are many brands who attempt to develop a relationship with their customers and want to become a part of that customer's everyday life. It isn't new, it appears you simply don't want put the work in to do it and/or you don't know how to.

Now to address a few things, judging on what you're saying, what you're wanting to do is mass email marketing which is a low-CTR game. Your numbers aren't great, but that is partly because (I suspect) you have no idea what you're doing in regards to writing email copy that converts or you simply don't want to put in the time/effort necessary to write good email copy. Additionally, since you're clearly wanting to do the mass email marketing game, well I hate to tell you this, but it is a game of scale. It is going to be rough until you start hitting big numbers of subscribers.

Judging from your original post and your subsequent responses in this thread, the only thing I can see is that you want to get an email address to optin and then send that person a link and have them buy something. No other work or effort involved. If that is what you want, get out of REAL email marketing and get into hardcore spamming.

Also, your list quality regarding profitability will depend on a few things:
- Country of the subscriber
- What your subscription page implies they will be getting
- Niche
- Traffic source
- Targetting of the subscriber (how closely they are targetted in demographic/interests/income/education in relation to the offers you are sending)

You're clearly missing something here. Also, you've got the wrong attitude regarding the whole thing.

In short... you're doing it wrong.

Ironically, even the ones selling the next thing
that's replacing email, are doing it by... email

Yes sir.... *hangs head in shame and walks away....WITH shoulders down* :p

So as long as it makes you money its ok to keep doing it I guess.

You know people were ranking spam sites in Google for years until their livings dried up with the algorithm changes.

There are people who beg for money on the trains here in nyc with fake con stories and make full time incomes, does that mean its the most effective way to build a business? No.

Guess what, now they are arresting these folks and handing out tickets to those who give them money. So much for doing something that 'works'.

Bernie Madoff made millions in a ponzi, and it 'worked' for him, and now look at where he is.

You can also rob stores and banks, that works to.

If you want to make money and do something that works, and not care about other people than by all means go ahead and do it.

Just don't complain when things don't work out, or when you paypal isn't being flooded with commissions.

Couldn't have said it better

Stuart, a lot depends on what you promised when they opted in, what you're emailing them and how useful they find it.

You've developed one type of relationship with your subscribers, and from the sound of it, mailing five times a day would kill that list.

On the other hand, I'm on lists that do email several times a day, and I'm fine with it. They send me exactly what I signed up to get, I can scan their subject lines and tell which messages are relevant for me, and I can delete the others unopened without remorse. It's part of the expectation set when I signed up.

This is different from the churn and burn approach many, including you, it seems, attribute to frequent emails. CnB types are fine with having to replenish their lists and, if they have efficient methods for doing so, can make a lot of money.

Different strokes for different folks.