Is copying the entire original post really necessary?

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It happens all the time and I'm wondering why responding posters do it.

Sure, I can understand starting your response by quoting a phrase or comment from another's post - you want to emphasize that you're addressing some particular portion of the longer post.

But I can't, for the life of me, figure out why people feel that's it's important to quote the whole OP all over again? Does anyone re-read the entire re-post a second time? Or third or fourth time? I highly doubt it. So why put it there and clutter up your response?

I'm not losing any sleep over this useless re-posting, but it does make threads longer than need be and more scrolling has to happen. It just seems like a time waste for everyone.

Does this puzzle anybody else or am I just weird (wait . . . don't answer that)?

Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Lenney
    Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

    It happens all the time and I'm wondering why responding posters do it.

    Sure, I can understand starting your response by quoting a phrase or comment from another's post - you want to emphasize that you're addressing some particular portion of the longer post.

    But I can't, for the life of me, figure out why people feel that's it's important to quote the whole OP all over again? Does anyone re-read the entire re-post a second time? Or third or fourth time? I highly doubt it. So why put it there and clutter up your response?

    I'm not losing any sleep over this useless re-posting, but it does make threads longer than need be and more scrolling has to happen. It just seems like a time waste for everyone.

    Does this puzzle anybody else or am I just weird (wait . . . don't answer that)?

    Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author Brendon Zahrndt
    Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

    It happens all the time and I'm wondering why responding posters do it.

    Sure, I can understand starting your response by quoting a phrase or comment from another's post - you want to emphasize that you're addressing some particular portion of the longer post.

    But I can't, for the life of me, figure out why people feel that's it's important to quote the whole OP all over again? Does anyone re-read the entire re-post a second time? Or third or fourth time? I highly doubt it. So why put it there and clutter up your response?

    I'm not losing any sleep over this useless re-posting, but it does make threads longer than need be and more scrolling has to happen. It just seems like a time waste for everyone.

    Does this puzzle anybody else or am I just weird (wait . . . don't answer that)?

    Steve
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  • Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

    It happens all the time and I'm wondering why responding posters do it.

    Sure, I can understand starting your response by quoting a phrase or comment from another's post - you want to emphasize that you're addressing some particular portion of the longer post.

    But I can't, for the life of me, figure out why people feel that's it's important to quote the whole OP all over again? Does anyone re-read the entire re-post a second time? Or third or fourth time? I highly doubt it. So why put it there and clutter up your response?

    I'm not losing any sleep over this useless re-posting, but it does make threads longer than need be and more scrolling has to happen. It just seems like a time waste for everyone.

    Does this puzzle anybody else or am I just weird (wait . . . don't answer that)?

    Steve

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  • Profile picture of the author George Wright
    Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

    It happens all the time and I'm wondering why responding posters do it.

    Sure, I can understand starting your response by quoting a phrase or comment from another's post - you want to emphasize that you're addressing some particular portion of the longer post.

    But I can't, for the life of me, figure out why people feel that's it's important to quote the whole OP all over again? Does anyone re-read the entire re-post a second time? Or third or fourth time? I highly doubt it. So why put it there and clutter up your response?

    I'm not losing any sleep over this useless re-posting, but it does make threads longer than need be and more scrolling has to happen. It just seems like a time waste for everyone.

    Does this puzzle anybody else or am I just weird (wait . . . don't answer that)?

    Steve
    Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

    It happens all the time and I'm wondering why responding posters do it.

    Sure, I can understand starting your response by quoting a phrase or comment from another's post - you want to emphasize that you're addressing some particular portion of the longer post.

    But I can't, for the life of me, figure out why people feel that's it's important to quote the whole OP all over again? Does anyone re-read the entire re-post a second time? Or third or fourth time? I highly doubt it. So why put it there and clutter up your response?

    I'm not losing any sleep over this useless re-posting, but it does make threads longer than need be and more scrolling has to happen. It just seems like a time waste for everyone.

    Does this puzzle anybody else or am I just weird (wait . . . don't answer that)?

    Steve
    I win. Please don't anyone be silly and quote 3 times.
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    • Profile picture of the author DWolfe
      Their is a new poster here that responds to every post by quoting the Orgininal poster 1-2-3 or more pages in. . I'm sure everyone here knows what the op wrote or they would not respond. So no need to quote the OP full length posts or any others.. but I doubt you will change them. Could be a newbie thing to get either there name known who knows but don't let it drive you nuts.
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      • Profile picture of the author Steve B
        You guys crack me up ---> I should have seen this coming.

        You win. I'll just crawl back in my hole and keep quiet.

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        • Profile picture of the author clever7
          Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

          You guys crack me up ---> I should have seen this coming.

          You win. I'll just crawl back in my hole and keep quiet.

          Steve
          I just reposted a long post, thinking that I should make a summary... but it was easier to let it be long the way it was.

          However, I theoretically agree that we should delete a few things in a long post before reposting it.





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  • Profile picture of the author Viper64
    Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

    It happens all the time and I'm wondering why responding posters do it.
    A. You wouldn't know who a person is responding to unless they replied to the post.
    B. You don't know why they just hit reply, write their response and hit submit? Really? People are inherently lazy man. Simple as that.
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    • Profile picture of the author GarrieWilson
      I agree. Wish people would quote only the needed parts or if it's a "here here" reply, not quote at all.

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    • Profile picture of the author Ian Jackson
      Originally Posted by Viper64 View Post

      A. You wouldn't know who a person is responding to unless they replied to the post.
      B. You don't know why they just hit reply, write their response and hit submit? Really? People are inherently lazy man. Simple as that.
      Unless they refer to the "OP" in their reply post
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    I do it sometimes to "protect" myself from the original poster changing their post and me looking like a fool. That's happened more than you might think over the years. It happened just today as a matter of fact.

    Normally, though, I try to post the specific part I'm responding too.

    I can see people quoting entire WSO offers (those that aren't all graphics) or other similar posts as a record and protection against changing.

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    • Profile picture of the author GarrieWilson
      Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

      I can see people quoting entire WSO offers (those that aren't all graphics) or other similar posts as a record and protection against changing.
      The person being quoted could easily say you modified the quote.

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      • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
        Originally Posted by GarrieWilson View Post

        The person being quoted could easily say you modified the quote which I know you wouldn't do because you are such awesome dude that I look up to a lot and you set such a good example for all the rest of us.

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        Well thanks a lot Garrie. You are okay sometimes too.

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  • Profile picture of the author Tsnyder
    Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

    It happens all the time and I'm wondering why responding posters do it.

    Sure, I can understand starting your response by quoting a phrase or comment from another's post - you want to emphasize that you're addressing some particular portion of the longer post.

    But I can't, for the life of me, figure out why people feel that's it's important to quote the whole OP all over again? Does anyone re-read the entire re-post a second time? Or third or fourth time? I highly doubt it. So why put it there and clutter up your response?

    I'm not losing any sleep over this useless re-posting, but it does make threads longer than need be and more scrolling has to happen. It just seems like a time waste for everyone.

    Does this puzzle anybody else or am I just weird (wait . . . don't answer that)?

    Steve

    Honestly. yes... often it is important because context matters.

    I don't want anyone saying I quoted them out of context and
    twisted the meaning of their words.
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    • Profile picture of the author George Wright
      Originally Posted by Tsnyder View Post

      Honestly. yes... often it is important because context matters.

      I don't want anyone saying I quoted them out of context and
      twisted the meaning of their words.
      Being serious now. That has happened a lot here. Someone takes a position, someone else calls them on it without quoting and then the OP changes.

      It got so serious years ago that Admin said he would ban ones doing it.

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  • Profile picture of the author Joan Altz
    When I've seen that I've just always thought the person doing it didn't know how to set a limit to the quote. Pretty simple to do, but I'm sure it escapes some, and others are probably just lazy about it.
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  • Profile picture of the author salegurus
    I actually agree with you on this one Steve....
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  • Profile picture of the author IMMer1975
    Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

    I'm wondering why responding posters ...want to emphasize that you're ... a time waste for everyone....don't answer that
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    Or worse, truly taking your post out of context through selective quoting
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      It's laziness. You want to respond to something that somebody said so you hit "quote" so they know it's their post. To then go in and specifically find the item or items you're specifically responding to takes additional time.

      I myself am guilty of this, especially if the post I am responding to is really long winded. Do I really need to go cherry pick through the whole thing to highlight what I'm responding to when I can just as easily say...

      In response to "type quote or paraphrase idea" I think...and so on.

      I mean having to read through a life's history (and I am especially guilty of this) is bad enough, but to then have to weed through it?

      Now, if I'm responding to the OP, that's different. There is no need to quote the post as your response should be clear as to who you're responding to. But if 100 people have responded to a thread and you want to respond to person # 67, well then yeah, it helps to quote them otherwise nobody is going to know who you are responding to.

      Yeah, I guess I could just type @JohnDoe but that's 8 keystrokes whereas hitting the quote button is just one.

      Like I said, laziness and many of us are guilty of it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
    Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

    It happens all the time and I'm wondering why responding posters do it.

    Sure, I can understand starting your response by quoting a phrase or comment from another's post - you want to emphasize that you're addressing some particular portion of the longer post.

    But I can't, for the life of me, figure out why people feel that's it's important to quote the whole OP all over again? Does anyone re-read the entire re-post a second time? Or third or fourth time? I highly doubt it. So why put it there and clutter up your response?

    I'm not losing any sleep over this useless re-posting, but it does make threads longer than need be and more scrolling has to happen. It just seems like a time waste for everyone.

    Does this puzzle anybody else or am I just weird (wait . . . don't answer that)?

    Steve
    I do it because some people will go back and edit their OP. At other times I do it because the post will go onto a new page and it helps to have the OP quoted to have the correct context. I don't always do it, I only do it when I think it's important to have the context.

    I seriously doubt it's "laziness" has anything to do with it.

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  • Profile picture of the author Samuel Adams
    And, while I can understand your frustration with this, like the others were saying, maybe it's more about self protection. I try to only quote what I need and leave the rest out, unless it's short post of a paragraph or so. That's not a strict rule, and sometimes, I might forget and quote the entire post.

    Maybe one of the best reasons to quote someone's entire post is not when you are quoting the original post but when you are quoting someone within the thread. For instance, if someoen responds to OP and you respond back to that person. If you don't quote them and later the person's post gets deleted, then your own comment looks out of place and people wonder why you are making those comments. That's especially true if what you said was slightly off topic from OP. I've seen that situation here a few times.
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  • Profile picture of the author JensSteyaert
    If you are repsonding to every point the OP makes then it's no problem, but for the really long threads it's unnecessary i agree.

    But Rod makes an interesting point about this, since each post can be edited by the OP which makes it possible for your reply to look ridiculous...
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  • Profile picture of the author ronrule
    Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

    It happens all the time and I'm wondering why responding posters do it.

    Sure, I can understand starting your response by quoting a phrase or comment from another's post - you want to emphasize that you're addressing some particular portion of the longer post.

    But I can't, for the life of me, figure out why people feel that's it's important to quote the whole OP all over again? Does anyone re-read the entire re-post a second time? Or third or fourth time? I highly doubt it. So why put it there and clutter up your response?

    I'm not losing any sleep over this useless re-posting, but it does make threads longer than need be and more scrolling has to happen. It just seems like a time waste for everyone.

    Does this puzzle anybody else or am I just weird (wait . . . don't answer that)?

    Steve
    A search engine will drop a visitor on the page in a thread that's most relevant based on their keyword search, which isn't always page one. So once a thread has moved beyond page one I usually quote the original post if that's what I'm replying to.

    If this were page two and I wrote this answer WITHOUT quoting your post, nobody would know what the heck I was responding to.
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  • Profile picture of the author evakent256
    have you thought that copying the post might help responders to see the text in front of them, after they have scrolled the page for a good minute?
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    I AGREE WITH YOU
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  • Profile picture of the author youvana
    Yes Steve, I also agree with you I think it's best to just take a snippet rather than the whole damn post. I guess the psychology behind it is to copy the whole thing and then you can get away with posting a one liner, maybe a good way of getting the post count up?
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  • Profile picture of the author NK
    As mentioned by a few already sometimes it's necessary to quote a full post, especially when the discussion is moving fast and you're referring to a post other than the OP.

    If a discussion has moved to more than a few pages and if the original discussion has sidetracked, it's also ecessary to re-quote the entire OP just to remind others what the original discussion was about. Then if the poster wants to refer something specifically in there, they would usually bold it out.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeffery Moss
      Originally Posted by NK View Post

      If a discussion has moved to more than a few pages and if the original discussion has sidetracked, it's also ecessary to re-quote the entire OP just to remind others what the original discussion was about.
      Sometimes on these side tracked discussions, the people responding often haven't even taken time to read the original post and are merely responding to the last few people in the discussion. And, the discussion takes on a new direction of it's own and when you try to respond with an answer to the original post (without quoting the OP), then others who never bothered reading the opening post will actually say you are the one sidetracking the discussion.
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  • Profile picture of the author kyansitha
    Put it down to laziness and lack of imagination!!!!!!!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author MaxGalitsyn
    Most times I give it a blind eye. However sometimes it appears to be useful when you end up on the following pages of the discussion. But I don't treat it as recklessness or laziness. Very often folks just show their courtesy.
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