PayPal Has Opened The Doors To Nigeria? Increase or Decrease In Scams?

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PayPal signs ten of thousands customers in Nigerian launch | Reuters

So is this an area of opportunity? Or do you see this causing major problems?

Your thoughts.
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  • Profile picture of the author stevenjacobs
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    I think it wont be possible to know untill we wait could be good and bad
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  • Profile picture of the author Imfactsandsecrets
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    There are already enough problems there and they were there before Nigeria was on the paypal list. So, its' definitely an opportunity for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author salegurus
    Won't affect me, there are certain regions in the world i don't do business in and Nigeria is one of them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Anne Laidlaw
    I don't do business with Nigeria either. So no change for me. But for some who want to take the chance it is an opportunity.
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  • Profile picture of the author ClementChee
    Not all Nigerians are scams, I know there are prisoners in the first world countries too.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeffery Moss
    What you need to remember is that this is Paypal you are dealing with and they are very fast to reverse charges if the seller doesn't fulfill their end of the deal. So if someone is out there, whether Nigeria or any country scamming and saying they will give services or products and then not delivering, then Paypal will be the one dealing with them. So I'm not too worried.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Hess
    Too bad PayPal doesn't allow Nigerians to receive or withdraw funds, just send them.

    Yesterday, I had a Nigerian prince email me saying I can collect $1.2 million if I just send him $2,000 as a disbursement fee.

    It would be much easier if I could just PayPal him the money.

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  • Profile picture of the author cTory
    Everything is fine with me, long as they don't open doors for Iran. That is the main country that attempt to hack my Paypal. And I have to verify all over again.
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  • Profile picture of the author unreal
    Yes Iran have a lot of scammers and hackers!
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  • Profile picture of the author JensSteyaert
    Not sure if this will be a good thing, but only time will tell...

    There are good and bad people everywhere, so also in Nigeria...So if that's true, the more countries that are allowed, the scams there will be...
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  • Profile picture of the author David Hooper
    It's a great opportunity. Paypal wouldn't do it if it wasn't. It's not a Mom and Pop operation, you know...

    They know what they're doing.
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  • Profile picture of the author ddev
    Agree with David. If they're opening their doors to them is because they know how to take control of the situation.

    Just in case: you can use "smart geo profits" (plugin, look for it on WF) if you don't want to take paypal orders from some countries etc (or if you want to do it through another payment processor - like clickbank etc - to minimize risks with your paypal account).
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
    Now I won't have to use Western Union to send the $2,000 to release the 5.5 million dollars a long lost relative has left me, I can just pay them trough Paypal.
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    • Profile picture of the author ZephyrIon
      Originally Posted by Alex Blades View Post

      Now I won't have to use Western Union to send the $2,000 to release the 5.5 million dollars a long lost relative have left me, I can just pay them trough Paypal.
      lol said it before I could scroll to the bottom
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    • Profile picture of the author ddev
      Originally Posted by Alex Blades View Post

      Now I won't have to use Western Union to send the $2,000 to release the 5.5 million dollars a long lost relative has left me, I can just pay them trough Paypal.
      Maybe they've got too much money through western and now PayPal looks them with nice eyes (a profitable market)...

      // Just joking. My congratulations to all the Nigerian Marketers / Developers etc who may benefit from this //
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      • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
        Originally Posted by ddev View Post

        Maybe they've got too much money through western and now PayPal looks them with nice eyes (a profitable market)...
        Guess they want a piece of the Nigerian pie
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  • Profile picture of the author chrisuchi
    let us not be judgmental to a race or country, and i ask warriors, where is that saint or angel found in this world?

    Just one advice to Nigerians: never abuse this golden opportunity , else go back to usual darkness

    congrates
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  • Profile picture of the author puedall
    I have just one Nigerian customer ( he bought my course through Google 2Checkout ) and only two Nigerian friends. So I can't be the judge as I never have been to Nigeria. But so far, I only have had good experience with them..

    So... I certainly think its a good thing.

    Scammers come in all shape, background, countries and sizes. We have to use common sense just like with offline world.

    If anyone would be kind enough to enlighten me: what is the difference between these two:

    1. Make $5000K in two days without any work or knowledge

    2. Long lost relative/ prince etc...sent you $million

    (The same, different countries ). My point exactly.

    Here is what I think is procent ratio of good-bad people in general ( anywhere in the world ).

    Generally most people are good. I would say about 80% are really nice, genuine, decent people. Then there is the 10% that can't decide are they good or bad. There is around 5% that are nasty and mean ( just because they are really stupid and think that being nasty makes them look smart ) . Around 4% that are knowingly, plainly bad. Finally I think only 1% are pure evil by their own decision.

    I think this kind of ratio work anywhere you go. Give or take few percents at any given time...
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    • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
      One of my business partners lives in Nigeria and she's probably the most honest person I know,

      Several Drs I work with who originate from Nigeria would probably die of shock if it was thought they were some type of Internet scammer. One of them was a banker before he decided to go into the medical profession, though not sure if that's a good or bad thing :-)

      There are good and bad in all countries not just Nigeria, be nice if we could all remember that

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      Originally Posted by puedall View Post

      I have just one Nigerian customer ( he bought my course through Google 2Checkout ) and only two Nigerian friends. So I can't be the judge as I never have been to Nigeria. But so far I only have had good experience with them..

      So I certainly think its a good think. Scammers come in all shape, background, countries and sizes. We have to use common sense just like with offline world.

      Here is what I think is procent ratio of good-bad people in general ( anywhere in the world ).

      Generally most people are good. I would say about 80% are really nice, genuine, decent people. Then there is the 10% that can't decide are they good or bad. There is around 5% that are nasty and mean ( just because they are really stupid and think that being nasty makes them look smart ) . Around 4% that are knowingly, plainly bad. Finally I think only 1% are pure evil by their own decision.

      I think this kind of ratio work anywhere you go. Give or take few percents at any given time...
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      • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
        When Huxely opened the The Doors of Perception he was opened minded....

        So we'll see.
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  • Profile picture of the author Van Dam
    That's western union finished lol

    But really I know some Nigerian people who came to live in my country who went to college, earned degrees and now work hard.

    Of course there is a chance that some bad apples will use PayPal for their scams but at least PayPal has great buyer protection so there would not be much to worry about unless you send the money as a gift.
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  • Profile picture of the author JagSEO
    Well good for business people there, there will always be a scammer no matter what the system is they will always find ways.
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  • Profile picture of the author thisisraz65
    Lol, You will get scammers in around the world. Hope that make sense
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  • Profile picture of the author Fun to Write
    I think this is a good thing. The majority of Nigerians are honest and should not have to be stigmatized and held back because of a small segment of scammers. Every country has its crooks and scam artists, including the U.S. But, we're not barred from Paypal or other businesses based on their actions. It's the same with Nigeria. I've personally been friends with some good Nigerian people.

    As with all online business, take appropriate precautions when necessary.
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  • Profile picture of the author Raydal
    It's obvious the reputation that the country has but what about
    those Nigerians who want to buy from Nigerians, shouldn't
    they have a platform to do so? Why just think about Nigerians
    buying from other countries?

    And merchants have a choice about places they accept payment from
    so except you have shares in PayPal, you have nothing to worry about.

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  • Profile picture of the author seobro
    I don't know, but I got an email from a prince. He says he is sending me a check for 30 millions, so I'm gonna be rich now.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
      Not sure how race got brought in, but when people talk about scam, they mean the country. There are good people in every country, but laws in that country determines the amount of scams that comes out of there.

      China has good people, but that doesn't mean I will be trying to copyright anything over there, since their copyright law is pretty much non-existent. Scams are rampant in Nigeria, because they don't have the laws and infrastructure in place to enforce those laws, so naturally people try not to do business there. Has nothing to do with race, and everything to do with the laws there.

      There are scams here in the U.S, but not as bad as in Nigeria, because they will throw your ass in jail. Try and pick up some money at Western Union here in the U.S, and they'll be agents waiting there to slap the cuffs on you. In Nigeria, they don't have the man power or resources to do that, so people scam with impunity.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jeff Schuman
        I have no problem with it. In regards to scams I use common sense. If I get an email offering me millions of dollars of I click on the link the only click I am doing is delete. I think most of us are that way.

        I have been very happy with PayPal for over 10 years and what they do to grow their business is fine with me, especially when it does not affect me directly.
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        • Profile picture of the author gentlesjerry
          So PayPal is making mistake for opening shop in Nigeria? really? pal pay is wiser than you guys. I know how much they were leaving on the table for not doing business in Nigeria. Ask aliexpress.com and alibaba.com they making a killing from Nigerians. Yet the sites and more were not scammed.
          You should be arrested if you send some $2000 to get $1,600,000. Are you born fool? You are a scammer, granted there some bad egg among good ones. That shouldn't be licence to brand anything Nigeria as scam. The Nigeria anti-scam agency, EFCC is working tirelessly to flush out the bad eggs that have earned us this tagged 'scammers'. When would know about the arrest and prosecution of scammers by EFCC. CNN and your media won't report it, IT BECAUSE IS NOT A BAD NEWS.
          I'm Nigerian and I'm proud to be one, I'm not scammer and I never be one. Ask Frank Kern, i bought his book 'convert'., it was shipped to my home address in Lagos, Nigeria. That is why he a is millionaires.
          Come to over and see hospitality and warm of Nigerians. We are not scammers.
          Ask China why they so much love Nigeria, because the money is here. Ask Amazon, ask US government, ask the wiser one among you. Nigeria is 11th country in world with highest internet users.
          A little education for you doubters, palpay is working Nigeria banks, so it safe to do business with us.

          Please, let help end this scam theory. Stand up and be counted as agent of change.

          I love you all.Long live warriorforum.

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  • Profile picture of the author awledd
    One of the heavy hitter super affiliate in here is Nigerian.
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  • Profile picture of the author GlobalTrader
    Here is an interesting article that was published about 9 months ago listing the Top 25 countries with the highest ecommerce fraud rates - it was interesting to see Nigeria is 17 and the USA is 3 -

    Which countries have high e-commerce fraud rates? | ecommerce.milo
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    • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
      Originally Posted by GlobalTrader View Post

      Here is an interesting article that was published about 9 months ago listing the Top 25 countries with the highest ecommerce fraud rates - it was interesting to see Nigeria is 17 and the USA is 3 -

      Which countries have high e-commerce fraud rates? | ecommerce.milo
      That article is just that, an article. Those stats are inaccurate, and are based on IP's. The first thing a scammer does, is change his ip, and the most popular one is one from the U.S.

      Some of you guys are missing the point, nobody is saying Nigerians are bad people. It's just hard to prosecute scammers in that country, because they just don't have the resources and man power to do so.

      I'm willing to bet that most Nigerians are great people, but those that are scammers, scam with impunity pretty much. When Paypal looks to do business with a country, they don't look at race or color of the skin. They look for laws, and a governments willingness to enforce those laws.

      It takes alot of balls to use Western Union as a payment processor for scams, unless you can do it without worrying about going to jail. Here in the U.S, it only takes an idiot, because he is going to jail, and so is everybody else that is involved.

      The United States has more of it's people imprisoned than any other country in the world, and that is a big deterrent. If Americans could walk into a Western Union 4-5 times a day to pick up $2,000 they've scammed, then we wouldn't be talking about Nigeria, United States would be the scam capital.
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  • Profile picture of the author adetutu
    I am not happy I got in late into this discussion. For those who doesn't want to do business with Nigerians, or have any connection with us. It's a choice. What I believe is that there's nowhere in the world that we don't have scammers. These law breakers are everywhere.

    The most annoying part is that it is preventing some of us that has genuine intention to do real business online to use Paypal completely. As it is now, paypal only allows we Nigerians to purchase from sites that sell stuffs. We can't even paypal individuals money or receive money.

    And for those that doesn't want us as Nigerians, I have a suggestion for you. Maybe you should place a banner on your site that anybody from this part of the world should not make a purchase from your website. It will go a long way.

    And for those who still believe in us. Thanks. We are still hopeful that Paypal opens all it's services to we Nigerians. Seriously, running an online business from this part of the world does not come easy.
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  • Profile picture of the author PhilMax
    Since you guys don't know the terrain and the way things are run over here (Nigeria), my candid advice is direct your e-commerce attention else where . Leave us to handle our people and make all the money here alone honestly.
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    • Profile picture of the author The Niche Man
      I think they both see it as a challenge. Like the Super Bowl. The Best Online payment processor vs. some of Worlds top scammers going head -to-head.

      Paypal wants some of their oil dollars and they want some of Americas consumer dollars. It's a case of game recognizing game.
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      • Profile picture of the author mkgg
        Originally Posted by The Niche Man View Post

        I think they both see it as a challenge. Like the Super Bowl. The Best Online payment processor vs. some of Worlds top scammers going head -to-head.

        Paypal wants some of their oil dollars and they want some of Americas consumer dollars. It's a case of game recognizing game.
        That is a funny way of looking at it.

        And i haven't dealt with any nigerians so can't say anything but i am not at all worried about being scammed because its Paypal we are dealing with here and they are automatically going to favor anybody else over Nigerians.

        The nigerians are the one who actually have to worry because now they will get scammed . Payback time
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      • Profile picture of the author masterpeez4py
        Originally Posted by The Niche Man View Post

        I think they both see it as a challenge. Like the Super Bowl. The Best Online payment processor vs. some of Worlds top scammers going head -to-head.

        Paypal wants some of their oil dollars and they want some of Americas consumer dollars. It's a case of game recognizing game.
        I see you are clueless, What is the meaning of "some of Worlds top scammers going head -to-head."? Like only africa is the place where scamming is taking place. My point is that, as much as there are scammers in africa, there are psychos abroad that goes to the store and shoot people for no good reason.

        You should talk based on what you know. I am a Nigerian and all my life i have faced IM realities. Now i can boldly stand that i make $x,xxx as an amazon affiliates because i fought years to learn and get where i am. What part of the world are there no scammers? Whites dont scam? If you are going to analyze anything be factual about your points and not saying some other things. For your information, it all depend on personalities

        Most scammers here are not even aware of how to use paypal and you should know you cant scam someone and go easily with paypal. Their verification and strong buyers protection is a real good stand that paypal can work anywhere in the world.

        Its an advantage to IMers like myself and other true ones here. Please lets stick to the thread post and not talking out of point like the poster i quote. Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author nicheblogger75
    I have people on my list who are from Nigeria and they are always contacting me looking for alternate ways to pay me for a product I promoted. Now they will be able to use PayPal. IMO this is just going to result in more sales for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author JeanneLynn
    I know a lot of scams originate in Nigeria, but I've done business with several Nigerians and things worked out perfectly. The payments were good and the only problem was that Nigerian customs can take a while to release the packages to the buyer. I was shipping them merchandise to supply their stores.
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