PayPal Has Opened The Doors To Nigeria? Increase or Decrease In Scams?

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ClementChee

11 years ago

Not all Nigerians are scams, I know there are prisoners in the first world countries too.

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Jeffery Moss

11 years ago

What you need to remember is that this is Paypal you are dealing with and they are very fast to reverse charges if the seller doesn't fulfill their end of the deal. So if someone is out there, whether Nigeria or any country scamming and saying they will give services or products and then not delivering, then Paypal will be the one dealing with them. So I'm not too worried.

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Mark Hess

11 years ago

Too bad PayPal doesn't allow Nigerians to receive or withdraw funds, just send them.

Yesterday, I had a Nigerian prince email me saying I can collect $1.2 million if I just send him $2,000 as a disbursement fee.

It would be much easier if I could just PayPal him the money.

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cTory

11 years ago

Everything is fine with me, long as they don't open doors for Iran. That is the main country that attempt to hack my Paypal. And I have to verify all over again.

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unreal

11 years ago

Yes Iran have a lot of scammers and hackers!

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JensSteyaert

11 years ago

Not sure if this will be a good thing, but only time will tell...

There are good and bad people everywhere, so also in Nigeria...So if that's true, the more countries that are allowed, the scams there will be...

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David Hooper

11 years ago

It's a great opportunity. Paypal wouldn't do it if it wasn't. It's not a Mom and Pop operation, you know...

They know what they're doing.

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ddev

11 years ago

Agree with David. If they're opening their doors to them is because they know how to take control of the situation.

Just in case: you can use "smart geo profits" (plugin, look for it on WF) if you don't want to take paypal orders from some countries etc (or if you want to do it through another payment processor - like clickbank etc - to minimize risks with your paypal account).

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Alex Blades

11 years ago

Now I won't have to use Western Union to send the $2,000 to release the 5.5 million dollars a long lost relative has left me, I can just pay them trough Paypal.

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ZephyrIon

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Alex Blades

Now I won't have to use Western Union to send the $2,000 to release the 5.5 million dollars a long lost relative have left me, I can just pay them trough Paypal.

lol said it before I could scroll to the bottom

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ddev

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Alex Blades

Now I won't have to use Western Union to send the $2,000 to release the 5.5 million dollars a long lost relative has left me, I can just pay them trough Paypal.

Maybe they've got too much money through western and now PayPal looks them with nice eyes (a profitable market)...

// Just joking. My congratulations to all the Nigerian Marketers / Developers etc who may benefit from this //

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Alex Blades 11 years ago

Originally Posted by ddev

Maybe they've got too much money through western and now PayPal looks them with nice eyes (a profitable market)...

Guess they want a piece of the Nigerian pie
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chrisuchi

11 years ago

let us not be judgmental to a race or country, and i ask warriors, where is that saint or angel found in this world?

Just one advice to Nigerians: never abuse this golden opportunity , else go back to usual darkness

congrates

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puedall

11 years ago

I have just one Nigerian customer ( he bought my course through Google 2Checkout ) and only two Nigerian friends. So I can't be the judge as I never have been to Nigeria. But so far, I only have had good experience with them..

So... I certainly think its a good thing.

Scammers come in all shape, background, countries and sizes. We have to use common sense just like with offline world.

If anyone would be kind enough to enlighten me: what is the difference between these two:

1. Make $5000K in two days without any work or knowledge

2. Long lost relative/ prince etc...sent you $million

(The same, different countries ). My point exactly.

Here is what I think is procent ratio of good-bad people in general ( anywhere in the world ).

Generally most people are good. I would say about 80% are really nice, genuine, decent people. Then there is the 10% that can't decide are they good or bad. There is around 5% that are nasty and mean ( just because they are really stupid and think that being nasty makes them look smart ) . Around 4% that are knowingly, plainly bad. Finally I think only 1% are pure evil by their own decision.

I think this kind of ratio work anywhere you go. Give or take few percents at any given time...

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Kim Standerline

11 years ago

One of my business partners lives in Nigeria and she's probably the most honest person I know,

Several Drs I work with who originate from Nigeria would probably die of shock if it was thought they were some type of Internet scammer. One of them was a banker before he decided to go into the medical profession, though not sure if that's a good or bad thing :-)

There are good and bad in all countries not just Nigeria, be nice if we could all remember that

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Originally Posted by puedall

I have just one Nigerian customer ( he bought my course through Google 2Checkout ) and only two Nigerian friends. So I can't be the judge as I never have been to Nigeria. But so far I only have had good experience with them..

So I certainly think its a good think. Scammers come in all shape, background, countries and sizes. We have to use common sense just like with offline world.

Here is what I think is procent ratio of good-bad people in general ( anywhere in the world ).

Generally most people are good. I would say about 80% are really nice, genuine, decent people. Then there is the 10% that can't decide are they good or bad. There is around 5% that are nasty and mean ( just because they are really stupid and think that being nasty makes them look smart ) . Around 4% that are knowingly, plainly bad. Finally I think only 1% are pure evil by their own decision.

I think this kind of ratio work anywhere you go. Give or take few percents at any given time...

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Daniel Evans 11 years ago

When Huxely opened the The Doors of Perception he was opened minded....

So we'll see.
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Van Dam

11 years ago

That's western union finished lol

But really I know some Nigerian people who came to live in my country who went to college, earned degrees and now work hard.

Of course there is a chance that some bad apples will use PayPal for their scams but at least PayPal has great buyer protection so there would not be much to worry about unless you send the money as a gift.

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JagSEO

11 years ago

Well good for business people there, there will always be a scammer no matter what the system is they will always find ways.

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thisisraz65

11 years ago

Lol, You will get scammers in around the world. Hope that make sense

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11 years ago

I think this is a good thing. The majority of Nigerians are honest and should not have to be stigmatized and held back because of a small segment of scammers. Every country has its crooks and scam artists, including the U.S. But, we're not barred from Paypal or other businesses based on their actions. It's the same with Nigeria. I've personally been friends with some good Nigerian people.

As with all online business, take appropriate precautions when necessary.

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Raydal

11 years ago

It's obvious the reputation that the country has but what about
those Nigerians who want to buy from Nigerians, shouldn't
they have a platform to do so? Why just think about Nigerians
buying from other countries?

And merchants have a choice about places they accept payment from
so except you have shares in PayPal, you have nothing to worry about.

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seobro

11 years ago

I don't know, but I got an email from a prince. He says he is sending me a check for 30 millions, so I'm gonna be rich now.

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Alex Blades 11 years ago

Not sure how race got brought in, but when people talk about scam, they mean the country. There are good people in every country, but laws in that country determines the amount of scams that comes out of there.

China has good people, but that doesn't mean I will be trying to copyright anything over there, since their copyright law is pretty much non-existent. Scams are rampant in Nigeria, because they don't have the laws and infrastructure in place to enforce those laws, so naturally people try not to do business there. Has nothing to do with race, and everything to do with the laws there.

There are scams here in the U.S, but not as bad as in Nigeria, because they will throw your ass in jail. Try and pick up some money at Western Union here in the U.S, and they'll be agents waiting there to slap the cuffs on you. In Nigeria, they don't have the man power or resources to do that, so people scam with impunity.
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- Jeff Schuman 11 years ago
  
  I have no problem with it. In regards to scams I use common sense. If I get an email offering me millions of dollars of I click on the link the only click I am doing is delete. I think most of us are that way.
  
  I have been very happy with PayPal for over 10 years and what they do to grow their business is fine with me, especially when it does not affect me directly.
  
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  gentlesjerry 11 years ago
  
  So PayPal is making mistake for opening shop in Nigeria? really? pal pay is wiser than you guys. I know how much they were leaving on the table for not doing business in Nigeria. Ask aliexpress.com and alibaba.com they making a killing from Nigerians. Yet the sites and more were not scammed.
  You should be arrested if you send some $2000 to get $1,600,000. Are you born fool? You are a scammer, granted there some bad egg among good ones. That shouldn't be licence to brand anything Nigeria as scam. The Nigeria anti-scam agency, EFCC is working tirelessly to flush out the bad eggs that have earned us this tagged 'scammers'. When would know about the arrest and prosecution of scammers by EFCC. CNN and your media won't report it, IT BECAUSE IS NOT A BAD NEWS.
  I'm Nigerian and I'm proud to be one, I'm not scammer and I never be one. Ask Frank Kern, i bought his book 'convert'., it was shipped to my home address in Lagos, Nigeria. That is why he a is millionaires.
  Come to over and see hospitality and warm of Nigerians. We are not scammers.
  Ask China why they so much love Nigeria, because the money is here. Ask Amazon, ask US government, ask the wiser one among you. Nigeria is 11th country in world with highest internet users.
  A little education for you doubters, palpay is working Nigeria banks, so it safe to do business with us.
  
  Please, let help end this scam theory. Stand up and be counted as agent of change.
  
  I love you all.Long live warriorforum.
  
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awledd

11 years ago

One of the heavy hitter super affiliate in here is Nigerian.

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GlobalTrader

11 years ago

Here is an interesting article that was published about 9 months ago listing the Top 25 countries with the highest ecommerce fraud rates - it was interesting to see Nigeria is 17 and the USA is 3 -

Which countries have high e-commerce fraud rates? | ecommerce.milo

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Alex Blades

11 years ago

Originally Posted by GlobalTrader

Here is an interesting article that was published about 9 months ago listing the Top 25 countries with the highest ecommerce fraud rates - it was interesting to see Nigeria is 17 and the USA is 3 -

Which countries have high e-commerce fraud rates? | ecommerce.milo

That article is just that, an article. Those stats are inaccurate, and are based on IP's. The first thing a scammer does, is change his ip, and the most popular one is one from the U.S.

Some of you guys are missing the point, nobody is saying Nigerians are bad people. It's just hard to prosecute scammers in that country, because they just don't have the resources and man power to do so.

I'm willing to bet that most Nigerians are great people, but those that are scammers, scam with impunity pretty much. When Paypal looks to do business with a country, they don't look at race or color of the skin. They look for laws, and a governments willingness to enforce those laws.

It takes alot of balls to use Western Union as a payment processor for scams, unless you can do it without worrying about going to jail. Here in the U.S, it only takes an idiot, because he is going to jail, and so is everybody else that is involved.

The United States has more of it's people imprisoned than any other country in the world, and that is a big deterrent. If Americans could walk into a Western Union 4-5 times a day to pick up $2,000 they've scammed, then we wouldn't be talking about Nigeria, United States would be the scam capital.

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adetutu

11 years ago

I am not happy I got in late into this discussion. For those who doesn't want to do business with Nigerians, or have any connection with us. It's a choice. What I believe is that there's nowhere in the world that we don't have scammers. These law breakers are everywhere.

The most annoying part is that it is preventing some of us that has genuine intention to do real business online to use Paypal completely. As it is now, paypal only allows we Nigerians to purchase from sites that sell stuffs. We can't even paypal individuals money or receive money.

And for those that doesn't want us as Nigerians, I have a suggestion for you. Maybe you should place a banner on your site that anybody from this part of the world should not make a purchase from your website. It will go a long way.

And for those who still believe in us. Thanks. We are still hopeful that Paypal opens all it's services to we Nigerians. Seriously, running an online business from this part of the world does not come easy.

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PhilMax

11 years ago

Since you guys don't know the terrain and the way things are run over here (Nigeria), my candid advice is direct your e-commerce attention else where . Leave us to handle our people and make all the money here alone honestly.

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The Niche Man

11 years ago

I think they both see it as a challenge. Like the Super Bowl. The Best Online payment processor vs. some of Worlds top scammers going head -to-head.

Paypal wants some of their oil dollars and they want some of Americas consumer dollars. It's a case of game recognizing game.

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by The Niche Man

I think they both see it as a challenge. Like the Super Bowl. The Best Online payment processor vs. some of Worlds top scammers going head -to-head.

Paypal wants some of their oil dollars and they want some of Americas consumer dollars. It's a case of game recognizing game.

That is a funny way of looking at it.

And i haven't dealt with any nigerians so can't say anything but i am not at all worried about being scammed because its Paypal we are dealing with here and they are automatically going to favor anybody else over Nigerians.

The nigerians are the one who actually have to worry because now they will get scammed

. Payback time

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masterpeez4py

11 years ago

Originally Posted by The Niche Man

I think they both see it as a challenge. Like the Super Bowl. The Best Online payment processor vs. some of Worlds top scammers going head -to-head.

Paypal wants some of their oil dollars and they want some of Americas consumer dollars. It's a case of game recognizing game.

I see you are clueless, What is the meaning of "some of Worlds top scammers going head -to-head."? Like only africa is the place where scamming is taking place. My point is that, as much as there are scammers in africa, there are psychos abroad that goes to the store and shoot people for no good reason.

You should talk based on what you know. I am a Nigerian and all my life i have faced IM realities. Now i can boldly stand that i make $x,xxx as an amazon affiliates because i fought years to learn and get where i am. What part of the world are there no scammers? Whites dont scam? If you are going to analyze anything be factual about your points and not saying some other things. For your information, it all depend on personalities

Most scammers here are not even aware of how to use paypal and you should know you cant scam someone and go easily with paypal. Their verification and strong buyers protection is a real good stand that paypal can work anywhere in the world.

Its an advantage to IMers like myself and other true ones here. Please lets stick to the thread post and not talking out of point like the poster i quote. Thanks

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nicheblogger75

11 years ago

I have people on my list who are from Nigeria and they are always contacting me looking for alternate ways to pay me for a product I promoted. Now they will be able to use PayPal. IMO this is just going to result in more sales for me.

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JeanneLynn

11 years ago

I know a lot of scams originate in Nigeria, but I've done business with several Nigerians and things worked out perfectly. The payments were good and the only problem was that Nigerian customs can take a while to release the packages to the buyer. I was shipping them merchandise to supply their stores.

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