Any raw vegan here?

14 years ago

I've done it on and off. The people I share my home with aren't ready
to do it though. Most people cannot make radical dietary changes
and backslide into older habits - comfort foods and things like that.

It's amazing that your kid is willing to do it. Once kids decide
they like some food (hot dogs for example) changing their
preferences are not easy. My girlfriend's young daughter is
a meat eater and intractably resistant to eating the vegetarian
diet her mom and I follow.

When I lived in a warmer climate (So. California) I was mostly
vegan and 50-95% raw at different times - eating more
cooked foods in the winter and mostly fruit blended foods
in the summer.

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Greg Jacobs

14 years ago

I go through sprints of it...

depends what is practical for the situation. and more importantly what your body requires.

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James_Harkin

14 years ago

I have looked into Raw Food Diet and watched some videos and read some books by: Victoria Boutenko and David Wolfe.

See The Raw Family here: Raw Family | Victoria, Sergei and Valya Boutenko - Raw Food Information, books and DVDs
See David Wolfe here: David Wolfe

I have not converted to Raw Food as yet but want to. The problem I face is sourcing organic produce, the supply of which is limited in my local area. So I need to travel many miles. I have considered buying some land, around 2 acres to start a small organic vegetable & fruit farm and food forest.

YouTube - Geoff Lawton's Permaculture Food Forest

Also see: Permaculture Research Institute of Australia

I also understand that it is necessary to rotate food, you cannot eat the same produce all the time since different toxins can build up, for example those starting on the raw food road may start on the Raw Green Smoothie diet:

YouTube - Green Smoothie (Original)

However, once begun and enjoying such a diet it would be prudent to mix up the different food you consume to save getting ill. Just like crop rotation on farms, change from one form to another and so on.

Adding to raw food with super foods and distilled water, that for me would be the ideal diet, something I am looking at. However, its expensive if you are buying from organic stores.

Do you believe this is a good way of going about this, or do you have other suggestions that are better and healthier?

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James

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TheDebtEliminator

14 years ago

I like to eat vegan, but find not pratical for 100%

So I am about 40% vegan, but 90% healthly

Sometimes I cheat while out with friends

At the Holiday time it is harder for me

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Chris Faraday 14 years ago

It is a lifestyle decision, and time commitment. Most folk (and families) are really really hurting themselves - and it's sad - They have to be in a certain place or mindset to get into it.

I am mostly vegan, mostly raw, although low heat, low sweet and low meat like salmon, egg yolks & fresh wild turkey occasionally - brings a huge grounding & balancing effect. It is a technology & philosophy some can't get or groove on. Many ways to do it wrong - too much fat, too much fruit / nuts poor combining EATING POUNDS OF RAW MEAT - forget that one.

When you get more advanced it becomes about superfoods herbs & cleansing. You may even start to realize that the produce (even organic) is not right.

Lots of estrogens in plants, flax is overrated, hemp is good.

CHIA SEEDS ARE AMAZING & TRANSFORMATIVE!!
Soak & blend even better. 'Gotta try em.

I live for fresh aloe, goji's, blueberries, high speed blending of greens.

Really love what montel is doing - getting people to shell out $300 for a blender?? Yes!!! just do it

Learn about & share info on alkalinity, hydration & minerals (HAM)
Low heat is crucial, low sweet if you can.

It is a great community of remarkable & colorful people - kinda hippie freaky. But, the family of support is strong & vibrant.

Still learning - didn't mean to drag on - but it's more important than money and we should cater our offers towards responsible conscious products. : )
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Agnes Lyle

14 years ago

I'm vegan almost all the time, raw vegan when my body indicates it would like it.

By the way, the green smoothie man on the video recommends VitaMix blenders - I have one, and it is first-rate, but then so is the price. A major investment for the average earner. What do other people recommend?

Best regards,
Agnes

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jpwilliams

14 years ago

I switched from a Midwestern meat eaters diet to a raw food diet and lost 40 pounds in my first month, and now I am at a 50 pound loss after three months.

Another good thing to keep the cravings away, especially the caffeine cravings, is Green Water. They have several types at most healthy stores (Whole Foods, etc.)

The VitaMix is freaking awesome. Worth the money.

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be strong

14 years ago

Originally Posted by jpwilliams

I switched from a Midwestern meat eaters diet to a raw food diet and lost 40 pounds in my first month, and now I am at a 50 pound loss after three months.

Another good thing to keep the cravings away, especially the caffeine cravings, is Green Water. They have several types at most healthy stores (Whole Foods, etc.)

The VitaMix is freaking awesome. Worth the money.

heard it was awesome too..throw the veggies in the grinder and boom you have an awesome green drink without all that sugar and refined stuff

I still believe one should eat a little protein to support the muscles and other factors

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maksym

14 years ago

Wow... it's very great to see that many people here use raw food diet.
And again I am wondering that WHY only few people can take responsibility
and just try this diet. I am always trying to give such message - "Hey.. you
had regular food diet ALL your LIFE! Just try for at least 8 weeks Raw Food
Diet and that's it. After that you will feel by yourself to go back or not". :-)
-Personally, I don't want even to go back.
Most terrible thing that in "normal" families, parents ... i will not afraid to
tell.. poison their children. Every single day parents give them such many
bad food for children.
That's why we switched to raw food diet so quickly, cause we want that
our baby will be healthy.
Funny stuff... couple days ago, we left our child at grandma's place.
Grandma tried to give her fried fish. And guest what? Our daughter denied
to eat that stuff!!! First big victory for us. :-)

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Vibrant Warrior

14 years ago

I have gone from obese to totally fit with a six pack as a result of replacing most of my food with raw foods. I had been a vegetarian for 16 years+. I have been living the vegan lifestyle (with the exception of breakfast for which I have porridge oats) for about a year. I had a waste size of about 48 inches and now it's down to a fit 30 inches. Highly recommend it to anyone.

I also hear that the health benefits are enormous including the possible prevention of cancer and other diseases. Great topic Maksym! Good on you to start this thread!

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mtreid 14 years ago

I'm vegetarian and I've tried "raw" diets but can't last for longer than a month or so. I'm trying to build up to make it a lifestyle.

I've been following David Wolfe suggestions and found great value. Incredible energy and the need for less sleep are just 2 of my results.

One of his sites is: www.thebestdayever.com.
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Lambert Klein

14 years ago

I don't eat meat but I do eat some eggs and a little cheese.

Probably eat about 40% raw food. I have a salad every night with spinach and broccoli in it.

I do take B12 supplements since it may be harder for vegetarians to get all they need.

Lambert

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Wayne Cochrane

14 years ago

Originally Posted by lklein

I don't eat meat but I do eat some eggs and a little cheese.

Probably eat about 40% raw food. I have a salad every night with spinach and broccoli in it.

I do take B12 supplements since it may be harder for vegetarians to get all they need.

Lambert

B12? Where do the elephants and the giraffes and the rhinoceroses and the hippotamuses and the buffalo and the camels and the horses and the cattle and all the other biggest (land) animals in the world get their B12?

I don't believe the misinformation put out by the animal food industry.
B12 is found in small amounts in fruit, vegetables and mushrooms and fermented foods.

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Og Mandino

14 years ago

I'm lacto-ovo vegetarian myself.

I've heard about vegan, totally only consume vegetable. No meat. No eggs. No milk.
But raw food vegan... I've never heard of it before. ^^

Do you really mean you only consume raw food, without cook it? Without boil, fry, grill or steam it? Without any spice?

Just eat it like the way cow/sheep/rabbit eat?

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broker12

14 years ago

I have heard of this but I not sure on the definition. What are the most common foods allowed and prohibited on this diet?

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Loren Woirhaye

14 years ago

If you eat a raw diet and just use your teeth to cut the
food, you'll wear them down (the teeth) - so it's necessary
to have some equipment to do a whole raw fruits and vegetables
diet.

I have a VitaMix (Ebay for $100 or less) which is a very
heavy-duty and long-lasting blender. I've also had a few
different juicers - many raw foodies have up to 3 juicers,
plus the blender and various grinders and things.

You can also use a dehydrator to "boil down" foods,
which start out as glop, to make flatbread type things,
fruit leather and so forth. By keeping the temperature
of the dehydrator under 117 degrees you preserve
nutrients that are ruined by conventional cooking.

Few people sustain a 100% raw vegan diet. Gabriel
Cousens is the guy I've read the most material from,
and the one I respect the most too, and he personally
claims about a 95% raw diet, but completely vegan.

If you get very ill you might have difficulty with raw
foods, so it's important to always listen to your body
because cooked foods, while less nutritious, are easier
to digest and can help you heal when you are sick.

Raw foods too can help heal sickness, but there's a
balance to be achieved, so don't try to make the
transition to a raw food diet all on your own. Seek
out people in your area who are doing it and are in
touch with their bodies and not zealots who say the
only way to eat is raw.

People have seriously damaged their health going into
a raw vegan diet without discernment. So educate
yourself and test different things on YOUR body -
see how you feel and track your results over many months
and years. This way you will know what raw foods work
for you and in what seasons... and it's always good
not to be militant and say "I only eat raw food" because
that can be very stupid and wreck your health -
so be gentle and kind with yourself and make transitions
slowly and with grace.

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Dr Dan

14 years ago

Originally Posted by maksym

Hi
I am wondering is here any raw vegan?

I and my family nearly 2 years uses raw food diet.
And we really see dramatic changes.
Actually, we can't even go back to "normal" food.
We are so glad that we made such decision 2 years ago.
I remember how we started and we spent more then
6 months to change smoothly our lifestyle.
Actually, my wife started firstly and then I nearly her decided
to do that as well.
After nearly 10 months, I also decided to try 100% raw
food diet for at least 4 weeks. That was my biggest breakthrough...
( I was inspired by some books).
And now... we are nearly 90-95% of raw food use in our
nowadays. At summer time - it was way easier for us.
And our favorite food was simple tomatoes with garlic. Mmmmmm....
that is so tasty.
And now when winter is close we change food again to different
salads and different nuts with seeds.
We also have a daughter (may be you saw my videos).
She is 2,7 years old and almost never ate meat.
She is doing very great. And many time we have conflicts
with our old parents, which can't understand how it is possible
to use ONLY raw food diet. :-)

And how long are you with this style of living?

Congrats brother!

I was first introduced to this from Tony Robbins and decided to give it a try. After the first 2 weeks I never looked back because I felt so amazing!

We have now been 99% Vegan for over 6 years. I say 99% because we will eat fish about 6 times a year or so. My family consists of myself, my wife Siri Shakti, Kayleen 8yrs, Mayleena 5yrs, and Bodhi 8 months.

We mainly followed the guide of Dr. Robert Young who wrote the PH Miracle. We were pretty strict with it for the first 3 years (70-80% water rich foods) and now we are about 50% water rich foods. We still drink his Green Drink by innerlight.

Benefits include: We never get sick, no doctor visits, our kids dont get sick, no allergies, no food comas.

People always ask me if I miss meat. I always tell them hell no because I used to be a bodybuilder and ate over 5lbs of meat a day and over 40 egg whites a day! But I always felt hungry and tired. Now I feel great and only feel hungry if I forget to eat for 8 hours.

More people need to Hug a Cow and Eat a Salad!

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maksym

14 years ago

Originally Posted by rockstarinlife

Congrats brother!

I was first introduced to this from Tony Robbins and decided to give it a try. After the first 2 weeks I never looked back because I felt so amazing!

We have now been 99% Vegan for over 6 years. I say 99% because we will eat fish about 6 times a year or so. My family consists of myself, my wife Siri Shakti, Kayleen 8yrs, Mayleena 5yrs, and Bodhi 8 months.

...

GREAT STORY!!! Sorry for my late response to it, brother. I liked so much your end when you mentioned that you was a bodybuilder. :-)

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Lambert Klein

14 years ago

I use a Vit-B12 spray under my tonge. This way it should be absorbed easier.
I used to use a sublingal tablet and let it dissolve under my tonge.

The spray is easier and supposedly works better. They both bypass the digestive system. B-12 may not be absorbed well though the digestive system in all cases.

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Dr Dan

14 years ago

Dr. Young is amazing! You gotta check out his stuff: pH Miracle Living

Tony Robbins based his whole health seminars around Roberts teachings. Its pretty cool to see your own healthy blood under a microscope compared to others blood who think they eat a healthy lifestyle. Their blood looks no different than those with cancer. Pretty amazing stuff.

I used to have my own training business when I was 250lbs and then got busy with life, new career, new family, so I stopped training. I am about to get back into it. But it is not hard to gain muscle eating this way. I did a little experiment a few years ago. I was around 165lbs and trained without adding any extra protein or no more than maybe 100 extra calories to my diet. So I wa probably eating around 1,000-1,400 calories a day. Now understand that I have been certified by the National Academy of Sports Medicine and Apex certified also. So we were taught that I would need at least 2,500-3,000 calories if I wanted to gain any muscle mass. Well, I gained about 25lbs of muscle in 45 days at this low caloric intake of water rich foods!

Bottom line: a calorie is not created equal. People always ask things like where do you get your protein. But you have to remember that this is what they have been trained to ask. Who do you think did that? Food pyramids, teachers, doctors, TV, etc. But ask yourself where does a cow get its protein? from eating other cows right? from drinking its milk? from protein shakes right? lol..... it gets it from the grass. So we are eating cows to get the nutrients that it got from the grass? Just cut out the middle man and get it from the source.

I probably opened a door to a huge debate ;-)

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Dr Dan

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Franco Mocke

In any case many seeds and plants have more protein per weight than meat. The only reason why people eat meat is because it "tastes" good according to them. I hate the smell or taste of meat so don't know where they all learned it! It's a shame humanity has to kill millions of animals each year to compliment their luxurious lifes

lol... if they only knew why it tastes good to them. They need to try some kosher meat. Meat that has not been tenderized, bleached, and other things ,I dont know if I can use that language in here? I will just say Uric acid. That is the flavor they like.

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Loren Woirhaye 14 years ago

If there is any question of the muscle building potential of a
vegetarian diet, I refer you to Bill Pearl, 4 time Mr. Universe in
the 1960s and still going strong and still an advocate for
a vegetal diet.

And, no, Alexa, I'm not currently Vegan. I've been vegetarian
for about 15 years with stints of veganism and raw food.

B12 I get from light supplementation. When you don't eat meat
you need a lot less of it actually, and the phenomenon of
b12 deficiency in vegetarians has been blown out of proportion.

I don't take a lot of supplements. A lot of the supplement
stuff is hype. If you eat a whole foods diet you mostly don't
need 'em. People who eat crappy food and carry around
a lot of toxins lodged in fat cells often find supplements help
them feel better. Start flushing out the toxins and the need
for supplements, and stimulants, disappears.
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Dr Dan

14 years ago

You can make anything taste like meat if you really want to. We use crushed almonds in our brown rice pasta dishes and it tastes like a combo of ground beef and Parmesan cheese.

We also do whole wheat and sometimes corn pizza's using either almond cheese or soy cheese. We sometimes even add a topping of tofurki which is like a spicy tofu type meat. We had a few parties where we used tofu taco meat and tofurki. We didnt tell anyone it was tofu and they all thought it was real meat. they said it was the best dishes they have ever tasted.

If you live in LA go to: real food daily or native foods

or north cali, go to cafe gratitude or herbivore

you will be amazed at the dishes you eat.

But be warned that if you order a raw dish called pizza or something, that its not gonna taste like pizza. I suggest you start with cooked vegan food first. Then try raw.

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14 years ago

Here is a list of famous vegetarians and vegan I found from Famous Vegetarians - Vegan Celebrities - by HappyCow

Abdul Kalam Dr., President of India and Space Scientist - info
Abdullah �-calan, Kurdish militant leader - info
Abraham Lincoln, former President of the United States - info
AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, founder of ISKCON/Hare Krishna - info
Adam Ant, musician - info
Adam Carson, drummer of AFI - info
Adam Russell, bassist of Story of the Year, vegan - info
Adriana Karembeu, model - info
Adriano Celentano, singer - info
Ahmet Zappa, musician and actor - info
Alan Donohue, singer of British rock band The Rakes, vegan - info
Alan Ford, actor, British - info
Alan Park, comedian, Canadian TV Personality, vegan - info
Alanis Morissette, singer, vegan - info
Albert Einstein, renowned scientist - info
Albert Schweitzer, theologian, philosopher, and physician - info
Alexandra Paul, actress and environmental activist - info
Alex Greenwald, actor, musician, vegan - info
Alice Walker, poet and writer - info
Alicia Silverstone, actress, vegan - info
Alison Lohman, actress - info
Allen Ginsberg, poet - info
Ally Sheedy, actress - info
Alyssa Milano, actress, vegan - info
Amber Benson, actress - info
Amber Valetta, model and actress - info
Amitabh Bachchan, Indian celebrity superstar - info
Amy Ray, musician from Indigo Girls - info
Andre Tonelli, musician and instrumental guitarist, vegan - info
Andre 3000 Benjamin, musician from OutKast, vegan - info
Andrew G, actor, vegan - info
Andrew (Whitey) White, musician and guitarist of Kaiser Chiefs - info
Andy Dick, comedian and actor - info
Andy Hurley, musician and drummer of Fall Out Boy, vegan - info
Andy Serkis, actor - info
Angela Bassett, actress - info
Angie Everhart, model and actress - info
Anna Paquin, actress and Oscar winner of The Piano - info
Annalise Braakensiek, model - info
Anne Hathaway, actress - info
Anoushka Shankar, musician and sitar virtuoso, vegan - info
Antoni Gaudí, architect - info
Anthony Grayling, writer and columnist - info
Anthony Kiedis, singer of the Red Hot Chili Peppers, vegan - info
Anthony Perkins, actor - info
Anthony Rapp, actor, vegan - info
Apu Nahasapeemapetilon, actor (fictional) of Simpsons, vegan - info
Ariana Huffington, writer and polictical activist - info
Aristotle, Greek philosopher - info
Ashley Judd, actress - info
Avril Lavigne, singer and musician - info
Axella Johannesson, folk musician - info
Barbara Bouchet, actress - info
Barry White, musician, vegan - info
Beatrice Wood, artist - info
Belinda Carlisle, singer of the Go-Go's - info
Benjamin Spock, M.D., pediatrician, vegan - info
Benjamin Zephaniah, performance poet and author, vegan - info
Benji Madden, musician and guitarist of Good Charlotte - info
Berkeley Breathed, cartoonist - info
Bernadette Peters, actress - info
Bif Naked, punk rocker, vegan - info
Bill Pearl, bodybuilder - info
Bill Walton, NBA All-Star basketball player - info
Billie Jean King, tennis player - info
Billie Joe Armstrong, musician and singer of Greenday - info
Billy Idol, musician - info
Billy Martin, rock musician of Good Charlotte - info
Billy West, voice actor, vegan - info
Bob Barker, US TV show host - info
Bobby Rock, musician and drummer - info
Bobcat Goldthwait, comedian actor - info
Bonnie Raitt, musician and singer - info
Boy George, singer - info
Brad Pitt, actor - info
Brandon Barnes, musician of Rise Against - info
Brandon Boyd, musician of rock band Incubus - info
Brandy, R&B artist and singer - info
Brendon Urie, lead singer of Panic! at the Disco - info
Brian Bell, musician of Weezer, vegan - info
Brian Fair, singer of Shadows Fall - info
Brian Greene, theoretical physicist, vegan - info
Brian May, musician ex-Queen - info
Brigitte Bardot, French actress - info
Brooke Shields, actress - info
Bryan Adams, singer and songwriter, vegan - info
Bryce Dallas Howard, actress - info
Buddha, Indian Saint and Spiritual Master - info
Candice Bergen, actress - info
Captain Sensible, musician of The Damned - info
Carmen Miranda, Brazilian bombshell - info
Carole Bouquet, French actress - info
Carrie Underwood, country singer - info
Carrie Anne Moss, actress in Matrix trilogy, vegan - info
Casey Affleck, actor, vegan - info
Casey Kasem, US radio host, vegan - info
Catherine Spaak, actress - info
Cathy Guisewaite, writer of the comic CATHY - info
Cedric Bixler-Zavala, singer of The Mars Volta, vegan - info
Cesar Chavez, United Farm Workers union organizer - info
Chantal Coutier, makeup artist - info
Charles Darwin, renowned scientist - info
Charlie Heather, musician and drummer of Levellers - info
Charlie Watts, musician and drummer of Rolling Stones - info
Charlotte Bronte, novelist - info
Charlotte Laws, author, actress - info
Charlotte Ross, actress - info
Chelsea Clinton, daughter of Bill Clinton and Hilary Clinton - info
Chia Collins, founder and COO of Lightlife Foods vegetarian products - info
Chris Evans, actor from Cellular and Fantastic Four - info
Chris Evert, American tennis legend - info
Chris Head, musician and guitarist of Anti-Flag - info
Chris Martin, lead singer and musician of Coldplay - info
Chris No2, musician and bassist of Anti-Flag - info
Chris Pontius, actor on MTV - info
Chris Walla, guitarist of Death Cab for Cutie - info
Chrissie Hynde, rock singer, vegan - info
Christian Bale, actor - info
Christie Brinkley, model - info
Christina Applegate, actress - info
Christopher Amott, musician of Arch Enemy - info
Christopher Hills Dr., doctor who popularized microalgaes - info
Christy Turlington, supermodel - info
Cicely Tyson, actress - info
Cillian Murphy, Irish actor - info
Cindy Jackson, cosmetic surgery pioneer and author - info
Claudia Cardinale, Italian film star - info
Claudia Schiffer, supermodel - info
Clint Walker, actor - info
Coretta Scott King, activist and wife of Martin Luther King Jr., vegan - info
Corey Feldman, actor - info
Crispian Mills, rock musician - info
Dalip Singh Rana, aka "Great Khali", professional Indian wrestler - info
Daman Albarn, singer for Blur - info
Dan Piraro, cartoonist, vegan - info
Dana Daurey, actress - info
Daniel Johns, musician of Silverchair, vegan - info
Daniel Kessler, musician and guitarist of Interpol - info
Daniel Negreanu, professional poker player, vegan - info
Daniela Sea, musician and actor, vegan - info
Danny Garcia, professional skateboarder - info
Danny Nova, singer and songwriter, vegan - info
Darren Boyd, actor, vegan - info
Dario Argento, writer, vegan - info
Daryl Hannah, actress and environmental activist, vegan - info
Dave Gorman, Comedian - info
Davey Havok, singer of AFI, vegan - info
David Johansenn, singer - info
Dean Ornish MD, doctor and author of The Life Choice Diet - info
Deepak Chopra, author and doctor - info
Dennis Kucinich, politician, vegan - info
Dennis Weaver, TV actor - info
Diane Keaton, actress - info
Diane Warren, songwriter - info
Dick Gregory, comedian and civil rights activist - info
Dick Lucas, musician of Subhumans - info
Diogenes, Greek philosopher - info
Dirk Bach, German actor and comedian - info
Dizzie Gillespie, famed jazz musician - info
Doctah B Sirius, music producer and natural health researcher - info
Doris Day, actress - info
Dustin Hoffman, actor - info
Dyan Canyon, actress - info
Ed Asner, actor and rights activist - info
Ed Templeton, professional skateboarder, vegan - info
Eddie Jackson, musician of Queensryche - info
Eddie Lama, film maker - info
Eddie Vedder, singer and songwriter of Pearl Jam - info
Edward Furlong, actor - info
Edwin Moses, athlete - info
Elijah Wood, actor, vegan - info
Elizabeth Berkley, actress - info
Ellen Degeneres, TV personality, vegan - info
Elvira Mistress of the Dark, actress - info
Emily Deschanel, actress, vegan - info
Emilie Autumn, musician, vegan - info
Emily Dickinson, writer and poet - info
Emmylou Harris, singer - info
Epicurus, Greek philosopher - info
Eric Johnson, guitarist - info
Eric Roberts, actor, vegan - info
Eric Stoltz, actor - info
Erykah Badu, R&B singer, vegan - info
Fat Mike, musician from NOFX - info
Fiona Apple, singer and songwriter, vegan - info
Fiona Oakes, athlete, ex-Olympian, vegan - info
Forest Whitaker, actor - info
Forrest Kline, vocalist and guitarist for Hellogoodbye, vegan - info
Francis Lalanne, French singer - info
Frank Iero, musician of My Chemical Romance - info
Frank Marino, entertainer and drag queen - info
Franz Kafka, Jewish writer - info
Fred Mascherino, musician of Taking Back Sunday, vegan - info
Fred Schneider, musician of B-52's - info
Gabe Saporta, singer and lyricist of Cobra Starship, vegan - info
Gabrielle Miller, actress, vegan - info
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Dr Dan

14 years ago

Great resources and videos:

Earthlings Movie: Narrated by Joaquin Phoenix from Gladiator. goes into graphic detail on food industry, circuses, fur, etc.
Earthlings

Very graphic and shows you how your meat is really prepared. Narrated by Alex Baldwin: GoVeg.com // Cruelty to Animals: Mechanized Madness

My kids love this cartoon: The Meatrix Films

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JodyRossDeane

14 years ago

Hey Rawarriors!

Great to hear people are conscious and lovin' it.

I have been mostly veggie for 20 years, and sometimes vegan, and more recently quite raw. I love gourmet raw food. It's the best!

I am a smoothie and superfood lover too!

Goji, cacao, carob, pollen and avocado are my staples.

Keep up the raw spirit.

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JodyRossDeane

14 years ago

BTW i have a blog. Would love your feedback.

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davidjames42973

14 years ago

Interesting topic. I am a carnivore myself, but enjoy reading things like this.

Somebody posted that they go on junk food kicks and was asking how to avoid them? Try getting some protein in your blood stream. You can easily do this with protein shakes. The cravings for junk food will most likely go away.

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Loren Woirhaye

14 years ago

Originally Posted by davidjames42973

Interesting topic. I am a carnivore myself, but enjoy reading things like this.

Somebody posted that they go on junk food kicks and was asking how to avoid them? Try getting some protein in your blood stream. You can easily do this with protein shakes. The cravings for junk food will most likely go away.

It's good to know you're open-minded. Most people aren't - which is
why they cling to their habits and end up broke and sick.

I don't know about consuming protein as a cure for junk food
cravings. Are nuts junk food? Depends on whether they are
salted I reckon - and if you really get into it nuts should be
got in the shell and cracked up when you are going to eat them...
plus stored in the freezer because they go rancid.

Anyway, from my pot-smoking days I learned that "the munchies"
is really an oxygen issue. Breathe more air and the munchies,
which are typically associated with junk food, which tends to
be carb and sugar-loaded, go away.

I've discovered an esoteric pattern-interrupt in my own
nervous system that helps me supress salivation and
munchies brought on by smelling food I don't want to eat.

If you're diabetic or something that's another issue.

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Daniel Deegan

14 years ago

Awesome thread. I went 14 days completely raw and felt amazing. I have an auto immune disease and it helped quite abit. I switched back to 70%+ raw diet...the rest being vegan and my health is not as good as when I was fully raw, but I am finding it hard to go fully raw again. I can do mostly raw + vegan no problem, but I find my self being disappointed in my self that I am not fully raw.

In general I know I should be proud of my self as I was meat eater just about 2 months ago...after 14 days raw, going vegan was super easy...Hopefully I'll try to go raw again for another 14 days or a month this time.

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Chris Faraday

14 years ago

Vegan staples like wheat, soy, corn & yeast are highly controversial & inflammatory
On the other hand - strict raw foodist often suffer from a failure to thrive unless they balance things just right (very rare) and have a strong gut. (blood type O's)
To much fat, too much sugar, too much fat & sugar.

I am now back on oat groats, soaked & sprouted or low heat cooked and feeling strong.

I'm mostly vegan (occasional salmon), mostly raw, blend all the time, use low heat, seaweeds, aloe & superfoods. But, I don't juice, fast or cleanse at all. This is my next evolution. Allays open / allways learning.

Robert Young is a legend. His "phour salts" should be in every home.
Just buy it, but only use 1/4 of what they recommend.

David Wolfe however, takes it to another level.
mushrooms are the most profound immune builders on the planet. Reishi, maitake, ****ake, lions mane. His big thing.

Get into superfoods, but don't break the bank. Some are miraculous, some are overhyped, overpriced & overated, some are useless and every manufacturer is different check out www ultimate superfoods com www sun star organics com

I suggest learning about (HAM) Hydration, alkalinity & minerals to start.
We are the minority, but you saw the list of stars - they have the best information.
We all want to look good, stay young and be strong.

Mothers are open to this information as it effects their children.
and -
Friends don't let friends microwave baby food : )

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Andy Money 14 years ago

Not vegan, vegetarian since I was 3 though.
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maksym

14 years ago

Great to see that my thread is alive and many warrios are joining in this discussion.
Very soon will be 2 years how my family is on raw food diet. And you know... we don't want to coping back to regular food. Really, we like our style. A lot!!!

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nturgeon

14 years ago

I recently purchased a book called The Thrive Diet by Brendan Brazier. He is a Ironman Triathlete and eats a 100% plant-based diet. He talks about how some foods create nutritional stress and other foods can eliminate it. It's very interesting so far and I will try eating this way once I'm done reading the book. I am a very active girl and was concerned about lack of protein, etc but his book has cleared things up for me. I look forward to trying this out. It's an expensive way to eat but I'd rather spend my money on healthy foods vs pharmacies, hospitals and doctor's offices!

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maksym

14 years ago

Originally Posted by nturgeon

I recently purchased a book called The Thrive Diet by Brendan Brazier. He is a Ironman Triathlete and eats a 100% plant-based diet. He talks about how some foods create nutritional stress and other foods can eliminate it. It's very interesting so far and I will try eating this way once I'm done reading the book. I am a very active girl and was concerned about lack of protein, etc but his book has cleared things up for me. I look forward to trying this out. It's an expensive way to eat but I'd rather spend my money on healthy foods vs pharmacies, hospitals and doctor's offices!

I will disagree here about that raw food is expensive one. Yes... it will be a little bit at the beginning. But then... trust me... I am eating right now nearly 3-4 times less then it was before.
Also... look how much is meat. Expensive right? For example, here it is nearly 7-10usd per kg. For that amount of money, I can buy 5-8 kg of bananas, or 20-30kg of apples, or even in winter time - 4-6kg of tomatoes.

And in summer time... oh... it is so cheap!!!

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Loren Woirhaye 14 years ago

Unless you're eating subsidized food (McDonald's meat prices
are subsidized to keep poor families buying there because
it's cheaper than buying vegetables - film: "Food, Inc.") then
the truth is that eating meat 1 or more times per day, which
is a common S.A.D. (standard American diet) habit, is
more costly than eating vegetables.

In a non-subsidized meat-industry flesh foods will always
cost more than vegetal foods.

I've been a vegetarian for 15 years. I am trim, energetic,
sharp-witted, physically strong for my weight, and I can
hold my liquor.

I also don't eat a lot of food most of the time. Occasionally,
when my body wants it, I'll go on binges and eat a lot of
calories... so while I function often on less food than some
people, I can put it away when I need to.

In my experience, the more you stick to whole foods in their
purest form the more easily you'll know when to stop eating.
At my inlaw's over the holidays this year I had a lot of food
available... even though they eat flesh there was plenty of
vegetables.... even so, I was crazy for nuts most of the time
I was there. My body wanted nuts, so I was eating them.
Normally eating a lot of nuts is asking for difficulties, because
they are a little challenging to digest, but in this case I went
whole-hog with no problems. After a couple of days the nut-
cravings abated.

Ben Franklin famously went vegetarian to save money - he
figured-out how much eating meat was costing him as a youth
and since he was familiar with the idea and literary evidence
of high-functioning vegetarians, he adopted the practice
himself.
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nturgeon

14 years ago

Originally Posted by maksym

I will disagree here about that raw food is expensive one. Yes... it will be a little bit at the beginning. But then... trust me... I am eating right now nearly 3-4 times less then it was before.
Also... look how much is meat. Expensive right? For example, here it is nearly 7-10usd per kg. For that amount of money, I can buy 5-8 kg of bananas, or 20-30kg of apples, or even in winter time - 4-6kg of tomatoes.

And in summer time... oh... it is so cheap!!!

Yes, I meant in the beginning the cost will be higher than normal as he uses natural ingredients in his recipes. These ingredients are harder to find and more expensive where I am. Once I purchase the "base" ingredients, my grocery bill will normalize

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.X.

14 years ago

I've been on and off raw for about 5
years now.

My longest 100% stretch was 9 months -
(well, probably 99.5% raw with the
occasional bad decision).

My wife and I have experimented with
probably a dozen diets, mainly for
mental clarity and energy benefits
and it's raw hands-down.

More recently I tried Dr. Graham's
80-10-10 and that was even a
quantum leap in the raw realm - he
doesn't believe in fatty raw foods
like avacado and nuts, or anything
dehydrated and I have to say after
a week I could really feel how those
foods bogged me down.

Should be noted on that diet I was
also working out with a fitness
trainer and lost 12lbs of fat and
gained 6 lbs of muscle in 6 weeks,
(would love to keep that up for
about 30 weeks) so the notion that
the diet lacks enough protein to
prevent withering away should be
dispelled.

The past year we've been more off
than on and I've gained 35 pounds -
weight *gain* has usually been an
issue for me as I was usually always
trying to gain weight when I was
younger.

So, looking forward to getting back
on track in the New Year. Have been
working out hard, but without good
diet not seeing / feeling the results
I want and know are possible.

Oh, our kids have been on raw too -
our oldest, who's more inclined to it,
was once served fries (out with
Grandma and Grandpa) with kale on
it for decoration - she ate the kale
and passed on the fries.

Our middle one won't eat much of
anything that isn't certifiably bad
little kid food (mac and cheese, hot
dogs, etc) and our youngest goes
for juices.

We've found, generally, the kids
go for green smoothies - so long as
they're not green (just add some
variety of berries).

I get a kick out of how offended
people are by this diet, because
as hard as it is to stick with, there
is no denying the benefits for
anyone with the willingness to
try it without preconceived ideas.

X

PS - Generally I believe in trying
things because there's so much BAD
information floated around that then
mutates into something even worse.

Try something, see how you feel,
notice how the world reacts to it (if
they react badly you're probably on
the right track).

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runfast

14 years ago

Are there any accurate studies that prove that "vegans" live longer, look healthier, and never get any disease?
Most of the vegetarians that I know personally don't look healthier (kinda pale) plus they are weaker (they can't keep up with me when it comes to going out and cutting a pickup load of firewood or shingle a steep roof).
I'm not against this type of diet but I'm not ready to give up my milk and meat till I personally know a vegetarian that can outdo a country woodsman or a traditional roofer.

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Loren Woirhaye

14 years ago

Originally Posted by runfast

Are there any accurate studies that prove that "vegans" live longer, look healthier, and never get any disease?
Most of the vegetarians that I know personally don't look healthier (kinda pale) plus they are weaker (they can't keep up with me when it comes to going out and cutting a pickup load of firewood or shingle a steep roof).
I'm not against this type of diet but I'm not ready to give up my milk and meat till I personally know a vegetarian that can outdo a country woodsman or a traditional roofer.

You've already decided we're a bunch of weaklings. Studies
show vegetarian athletes have superior endurance and
recover from injuries faster. I concur from personal experience
both eating a meat diet (until 23) and a vegetal diet afterwards.
Aside from a little gray hair I feel and look better than ever.

"Dave Scott, of Davis, California is a scholar-athlete who is well acquainted with the scientific literature on diet and health. He is also universally recognized as the greatest triathlete in the world. He has won Hawaii's legendary Ironman Triathlon a record four times, including three years in a row, while no one else has ever won it more than once. In three consecutive years, Dave has broken his own world's record for the event, which consists, in succession, of a 2.4 mile ocean swim, a 112 mile cycle, and then a 26.2 mile run. Dave's college major was exercise physiology, and he says he keeps up on the latest developments in the field by reading "an incredible amount" of books and journals. He calls the idea that people, and especially athletes, need animal protein a "ridiculous fallacy." There are many people who consider Dave Scott the fittest man who ever lived. Dave Scott is a vegetarian."

source: http://www.jivdaya.org/vegetarian_athletes.htm

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runfast 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Loren Woirhaye

You've already decided we're a bunch of weaklings.

No, I didn't mean to sound negative towards vegans. Most of the ones I know tend to have the same mindset. Avoid vaccinations, drink only goat milk, homeschool, take lots of vitamins but never go to the doctor, and only eat vegetables.

I believe that your mind sets your destiny. You can go a long ways physically and mentally regardless of your diet.

Sorry about sterotyping...
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.X.

14 years ago

I think a distinction needs to be made between
vegetarian and raw foodist - they are not the
same thing.

The underlying premise of a raw diet is that
cooking A) destroys nutrients, B) ruins the
best source of filtered water you can get
and C) fundamentally changes the chemical
composition of food.

The point being you cannot compare the
health of a vegetarian eating cooked food to
a raw foodist - it's not the same thing.

Please be clear I'm not saying anything
against vegetarians or vegans. However I
have a good friend (not the only example
I can offer) who's vegetarian and she was
100lbs overweight. Point being I've known
many vegetarians who weren't the vision
of optimal health - and others who were.

Storm Talifero is a good example of someone who's
raw and ultra fit - I've met him personally and
although he's in his 60s, the dude looks closer
to 40.

RawVegan Body Building Muscle Mass

I'd also add that what most people consider
"normal size" is really "bloated size". A little
detox of the body changes how a human looks.

I can also personally testify that when I am
100% raw I don't get sick - ever.

BTW, it's not necessary to give up meat
or milk - both can be consumed raw (I don't
eat raw meat but have known people who
do). Since milk is sterile with proper human
handling it shouldn't be a problem - it's
poor human handling (and longer shelf life)
that necessitates pasteurization .

X

Originally Posted by runfast

Are there any accurate studies that prove that "vegans" live longer, look healthier, and never get any disease?
Most of the vegetarians that I know personally don't look healthier (kinda pale) plus they are weaker (they can't keep up with me when it comes to going out and cutting a pickup load of firewood or shingle a steep roof).
I'm not against this type of diet but I'm not ready to give up my milk and meat till I personally know a vegetarian that can outdo a country woodsman or a traditional roofer.

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maksym 14 years ago

Originally Posted by .X.

I think a distinction needs to be made between
vegetarian and raw foodist - they are not the
same thing.

X

Totally agree on that!!! There is a HUGE difference on that. That's why I like my path - raw food
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- kozmotm 14 years ago
  
  I saw a few movies about raw food and I decided to eat only raw food in max 6 months.
  
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  monicitravi 10 years ago
  
  I have to say, Vegan is not for me. I'm a meat-and-potatoes man, for sure. But I find my energy both in the exercise I do everyday, and moderation with which I approach everything. But I must also say, the vegans don't have any worry about the massive egg recall!
  
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- NavySeals91 14 years ago
  
  I was Raw Veggie for about 3 months from January to March with cooked eggs for protein. I did, kale shakes, green drinks, etc. I noticed a difference. I left my raw ways with veggie ways until June with green drinks, then I went vegan from July to December of this year. After my one year mark, and yesterday actually after long thought I reincorporated meat into my diet.
  
  Of course it's grass fed hormone/antibiotic free beef and antibiotic free chicken/pork and humanely treated.
  
  I will see how much I thrive, and while it is possible to live veggie or raw, it is consuming to get all the right macronutrients.
  
  BEWARE OF MARKETERS WHO SELL THESE CLAIMS THAT RAW FOODS IS THE END ALL OF EVERYTHING. BEWARE. LOOK INTO THE SCIENCE. TRY IT OUT, BUT BE YOUR OWN JUDGE. DO YOUR OWN THINKING.
  
  I highly advise against frutarian because of the constant insulin elevation...insulin resistance and type 2 will surely follow after prolonged eating habbits this way.
  
  Balance is key.
  
  Lower carb, about 150-200g a day from veggies, nuts, seeds, and some rice-whole grains if you must or feel it. (Gluten is meh) and higher in the fats and protein department. A Macronutrient ratio equalling 40 30 30 or 35 35 30 or 35 30 35 Protein Carbs Fats respectively will produce optimal health. (balance)
  
  No sugar/starch/refined sugars/processed foods and health will sure follow
  
  Cron-o-Meter is open source software you guys can get for PC or MAC which has access to the USDA database of food and measure macro, micro intake, minerals, vitamins, aminos, and lipids. Plus it can create charts for your nutrition over a certain period of time. It is a useful tool and invaluable if you want to monitor your health.
  
  My general macro intake is 170g protein 200g carbs and 100 g fats (even when vegan) I am an athlete, so these levels are adjusted accordingly and I am also 235
  
  Uneccesary insulin spikes lead to premature aging and chronic disease, control insulin and life span and quality will improve.
  
  For anyone who decides to jump into raw, research it well before hand. Know your macro/micro levels you need to attain and if you experience side effects which worsen your health adjust something..."detoxes" can happen, but most experience malnutrition. If it lasts a couple days then your fine its a detox, but detoxes don't happen over weeks.
  
  DON'T do the mastercleanse! DON'T bad health will follow! If you do it, do it for 1 or 2 days, not 7 or longer
  3 days most and don't do it again for another month and a half. Make sure when you break the fast you eat more, a lot more, think 2x your BMR, your body will be starving for nutrition.
  
  To each there own, you gotta be tough on this diet, you will catch a lot of crap from friends. Do it right, know what you are getting in to. Think about humanely treated hormone/antibiotic free natural diet meat for morals and health. It doesn't have to be much, some flesh once in a while, once or twice a week.
  
  Avocados are a must if you are vegan as so are Almonds.
  
  Seitan is pure gluten, try not to indulge on it. Fake meats r worse than anything. Loaded with sodium, far from natural.
  
  Lean Meat(protein), vegetables, nuts/seeds, some fruit, little starch, and no sugar. Health in a sentence. Balance.
  
  Beyond Vegetarianism--Raw Food, Vegan, Fruitarian, Paleo Diets for some info that can help you structure your diet and learn about how we were designed to eat (and chimps too who do eat flesh when available)
  
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- keyaziz 14 years ago
  
  Low fat raw vegan here. I follow Doug Graham's 80/10/10 diet. Been interested in it for 2 years, took me about a year to fully transition. I LOVE it and I get so much more done.
  
  My 2 year old also loves eating his fruits and greens
  
  My boyfriend is half way and has no desire for 100% at the moment. I occasionally may have some baked potatoes but I can't handle anything else anymore and have no desire too.
  
  EDIT: Thought I would add before this I tried the Wai diet and it was ok but I felt something missing. 80/10/10 cleared up my asthma and allergies and has sent my running performance through the roof
  
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Neil V

14 years ago

runfast

I don't know if a vegan can outdo and country woodsman or traditional roofer, but i am following the vegan diet though not hundred 100% there yet and i can tell you this

1. i have more mental energy now than i ever did. I can concentrate and achive more more working on my internet busiess rather than pyhsical for much longer spurts and have been more productive than ever

2. I can run longer than i ever did. I could never break the 5 mile barrier but now i can easily get up to 10 miles

3. My flexibility has improved and i can hit the punching bag harder and longer than i could previoulsy.

But that does not mean you should change to vegan.

I just think it is facinating that once i began to explore this route, a whole new world of mental and physical opportunities opened up that i never thought was possible

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Loren Woirhaye

14 years ago

There's a difference between zealotry, informed or not,
and trying things out for yourself - testing and learning
and assessing what your results are and how you feel.

I don't consider myself a raw food person because I
don't maintain that diet for more than a periodic few
months at a time. I live in a colder climate now and
research and personal testing has shown that for me,
in this climate, a 90% or more raw food diet would be
difficult to maintain. I Hawaii however I would probably
have no problem doing it.

All the things about childhood vaccinations and so forth
are representative of the kind of zealotry that some
people who are also vegan in diet engage in. Whether
or not you go to a western doctor, vaccinate your kids,
or grow your own food or avoid the sun are decisions
many vegan people think about, but the choices made
in these areas are not the same as the choice not to
eat animal flesh or animal products.

The most well-rounded book on the subject (which
addresses the zealotry problem) is "Healing with Whole
Foods" by Paul Pitchford. He advocates balance - and
while he is a vegan he is not raw and he doesn't tell
others to be vegan - he informs what the issues are
and acknowledges that for many health problems, animal
products are a useful component to the healing process.

Once you get most of the animal products out of your
diet, I'll bet you see significant improvements in the
way you feel on a day-to-day basis: clear breathing,
clear mind, less fatigue, quicker recovery from injuries,
and less general inflammation are all benefits of
a meat-free diet I have observed in myself.

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maksym

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Loren Woirhaye

There's a difference between zealotry, informed or not,
and trying things out for yourself - testing and learning
and assessing what your results are and how you feel.

Agree on that as well... just before making any decision - make some researches. Same situation with vaccines. If you will spend some hours on this topic, you will realize that they are not so innocent like you used to know. Many videos on Youtube about that.

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.X.

14 years ago

re: zealotry. I agree with Loren and
might add that *most* people accept
conventional wisdom without much
thought or personal trial. That's OK,
it's just a matter of what seems
important at any point in time.

Personally, it's heartbreaking to see
a family suffer with a child, go into
debt trying to help them medically,
experience side effect after side
effect as a result when the only thing
that needs to be done 99% of the
time is to love the child and clean
up their diet.

Many of us homeschooling, anti-
vaccination, raw foodist whatevers
come across as zealots because
we've had the experience of being
here and of being there and we
*know* the difference.

I identify with the Matrix in that
*knowing* the truth makes it hard
to plug in to the system again.

And when I say *knowing* I'm not
talking about an intellectual thing
where I've read a few books and
they make sense so I buy in - by
*knowing* I mean I have experienced
both sides and one side is so powerfully
life changing that even when I'm not
adhering to what I *know* is right,
I cannot deny what is true and right.

Believe me, I live in Sedona Arizona
which is the mecca for people looking
for "the truth", who are willing to put
their life at risk following cult gurus
spewing all manner of foolishness -
but on occasion I try something new,
something makes sense, and it really
does have some value.

I suppose I've wised up to the
point that I listen less to what people
have to say and pay more attention
to who actually looks happy and
healthy. There are almost always
common denominators shared by
those people - so don't take my word,
or anyone else's for it. Look for those
people and get to know what they're
about - then try it on to see how it
fits you.

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Loren Woirhaye

14 years ago

Yeah. I don't, for example, think doctors (M.D.s) are
evil or stupid or ignorant. I think many of them have a
different paradigm about health that basically views the
body as a biological machine. I don't agree because I
feel there is a component to the health equation that
is unquantifiable on a rational level - because it's the part
of us that is not measurable by scientific instruments,
only through direct personal experience and exploration -
you might call it "spiritual", you might call it the mind
part of "mind-body" like Deepak Chopra.

Whatever you call it or however you want to think about
the components to health that are outside of the
Western paradigm taught to M.D.s and biologist - there
is something going on, a cultural and perceptual shift
about how we perceive ourselves as whole persons. A
lot of doctors these days are acknowledging these factors,
sometimes while still saying "this doesn't align with what
we know about biochemistry, but..." so the scientific
dialog gets expanded.

Sometimes though, you've got people out there pretending
to be scientists when what they teach is not within the
Western scientific paradigm. No pseudo-scientist wants
to say "I'm a self-appointed expert scientist" (though I've
seen a few ego cases come close) so they portray themselves
as promoting something scientific when in fact they are not.

This is all fine when you understand how to be skeptical
and discerning, but some people are more vulnerable to
suggestion than others and will embark on radical lifestyle
changes based on sketchy recommendations from people
who may not be who they portray themselves to be: I'm
talking about health and spirituality gurus.

The only breatharian guru I've hung out with is David Jubb,
and I think he might be for real, though he's not saying
he doesn't eat these days. Most M.D.s would be pretty
skeptical of Jubb's claims - but I've had it corroborated from
many sources that for months at a time he really did not eat
and yet maintained his body weight and muscle mass (and
he's not a featherweight type either). Does this mean I
believe that breatharianism is possible for everyone? No.
But it does inspire a viewpoint considerably expanded on
the "biological machine" paradigm of Western medicine.

It makes sense, if you take your health seriously, to do your
own research. You've only got one body so treat it well,
and realize that lots of people mean well when they tell you
how to eat or what medicines to take - but meaning well
doesn't make them right - it just means they have an opinion
based around their own biases.

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naruq 14 years ago

I eat Fresh fruits and vegetables daily. I also take nutritional supplements and drink Freshly squeezed fruits and vegetables. I do eat certain meats on occassion.
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boknows 14 years ago

Yes!

I have been vegan for 50 years, since 1960
Healed myself of asthma and allergies

Went raw in 1970 after living in Ecuador

Now own about 15 companies dedicated to the mission
And many books

Including The Idiots Guide to Eating Raw

For real, it is the only way to world peace, harmony and self empowerment and I have coached over 1000 CEO's, business leaders and social activists on this path. This is one of my ways of giving back because of the abundance I have experienced.

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mine1718

14 years ago

Never tried eating raw food (meat) etc, seems gross , yuck =]

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wemakeiteasy

14 years ago

We've been vegan for over 6 months now. It's been the BEST thing for our health.

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maksym 14 years ago

Glad to see such great results here...

Again, It is really worthy to try.
Look around, it is normal to try alcohol. Right?
It is normal to try to smoke. Right?
So... what it is not normal to be healthy? To try just for couple
months Raw food lifestyle?
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maksym

14 years ago

Hi to all again...
Couple my friends just recommended me to watch a movie - "FOOD Inc."
Which documentary film about today food industry.
I reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaly advice everybody to have a look on it.
Some video about it here (NO aff. links inside):

YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.

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Mili_D

14 years ago

Been a raw Vegan for 4years can't deny the fact that I have lost weight but the made thing is at the end I am still feeling hungrier after meals! But doing yoga everyday helps me keep going.

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Wayne Cochrane

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Mili_D

Been a raw Vegan for 4years can’t deny the fact that I have lost weight but the made thing is at the end I am still feeling hungrier after meals! But doing yoga everyday helps me keep going.

Still feeling hungry? Then eat more! Your body is telling you you need more food. If you are eating good low-fat raw vegan food you will not put on excess weight from eating more. My companion and I eat masses of food and do not put on excesss weight even though she was overweight before she changed to raw vegan.

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maksym

14 years ago

2mili_d
regarding feeling hungrier, I will recommend you to do diagnostic on parasites with your doctor.

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Marketstriker

14 years ago

I tried to follow a vegan diet. This experience gave nothing good. Could you, please, explain me what positive changes in my life and health can I get from raw vegan diet?

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maksym

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Marketstriker

I tried to follow a vegan diet. This experience gave nothing good. Could you, please, explain me what positive changes in my life and health can I get from raw vegan diet?

Sorry, bro... do research here and in search engine about that.

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Loren Woirhaye

14 years ago

Marketstriker, I would suggest you get one or both
books: "Healing With Whole Foods" by Paul Pitchford,
or "Conscious Eating" by Gabriel Cousens.

You can find videos of Cousens talking about diet. He's
an M.D. - You can get on his list at Home Page | treeoflife.nu

People have told me they tried going veg and they didn't
feel any better - and on quizzing I always found they were
eating junk food. Even if you want to eat meat you can
improve the way you feel a lot by getting the processed
foods out of your diet and eating a lot more fresh fruits and
vegetables.

You may have wheat or other grain allergies - so if you tried
to give-up meat and shifted into eating a grain-based diet
(pasta, bread, rice) to replace the calories you were getting
from meat, then you might have replaced one unhealthful
habit for another.

The only real secret to feeling great is to educate yourself
and apply what you've learned.

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JaiJay

14 years ago

I honestly don't think that I would be able to keep up with it and I'm shocked that your children do this too happily. I guess though, when thinking about it, if it is all that they ever knew then they would grow up with this being "normal"?

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NavySeals91 14 years ago

If you are doing this, supplement B12 AND IRON.

Get B12 and IRON

You NEED B12 AND IRON!

Just thought I'd hammer it in.

I caution you to be wary of the people who sell raw food diets. One guy said he could do 1000 pushups, gabriel cousins in one sitting by being raw. Could be possible, but most likely BS. A lot of people claim these herbal supplements will cure anything, these snake oils. BEWARE!

I'm not dissing it in any way. I did raw for 3 months and vegan for 5 and veg for 4. Green shakes made me feel great, do try and incorporate green shakes into your diet. However, be cautioned to go completely raw. We evolved to eat cooked foods, and some foods are healthier cooked and provide more nutritional benefits. The tomato for instance-cooking it activates the lycopene even more.

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ECS-Links

14 years ago

Great thread.

I'm not a vegan, I eat meat and cooked food but I'm quite attracted to raw food and being in Australia is a huge plus. It is readily available all year round. However I'm very far from being as raw as I'd like, it is quite hard to get to juice or try to come up with a good variety of raw recipes and organic vegetables and fruit are too expensive as well. I've come across David Wolfe's site and some of his interviews I think his passion is quite engaging...

One big negative for me is being addicted to bread, cheese, vegemite and generally I succumb to my cravings for salty stuff. I'd like to get Yuri Elkaim's "Eating for Enery" book - has anyone read it?

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Wayne Cochrane

14 years ago

Originally Posted by ECS-Links

Great thread.

I'm not a vegan, I eat meat and cooked food but I'm quite attracted to raw food and being in Australia is a huge plus. It is readily available all year round. However I'm very far from being as raw as I'd like, it is quite hard to get to juice or try to come up with a good variety of raw recipes and organic vegetables and fruit are too expensive as well. I've come across David Wolfe's site and some of his interviews I think his passion is quite engaging...

One big negative for me is being addicted to bread, cheese, vegemite and generally I succumb to my cravings for salty stuff. I'd like to get Yuri Elkaim's "Eating for Enery" book - has anyone read it?

"One big negative for me is being addicted to bread, cheese, vegemite and generally I succumb to my cravings for salty stuff. "

Please don't make the mistake of lumping "salty stuff" in with bread, cheese and vegemite. Bread and cheese are poisonous. You are craving salty stuff for the simple reason that your body needs salt. Natural salt is required by evry system in the body from the nervous system to the blood, the kidneys etc. When I used to work in a natural health clinic in Sydney 90% of the people who came for help were suffering from severe salt deficiency due to believing the anti-salt proganda and misinformation put out by the medical industry. (To create their continuity market. Who are their customers? Sick People. They need us to be sick. I refuse to co-operate with them. I have not been to a doctor for illness for 36 years. And I haven't taken ANY kind of drug or medication for 36 years.)

The healthy way to satisfy your salt cravings and improve your health is to use natural salt in your diet. Himalayan Salt is the best and is readily available in Australia now. next best is good quality natural unprocessed Australian sea salt (not Celtic!)

Good luck!

Wayne.

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Chris Faraday

14 years ago

It's the More RAW DIET:
COOK foods barely when you do & use low heat.
Some RAW with Each Meal - work to Mostly RAW
High Water content Veg's & Fruits before meals.
Learn about good oils and going Allergen free (INFLAMMATION)
B12 Sprays under the Toung
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Chris Faraday

14 years ago

MEAT - eh
Fish - better (low heat - slow heat)
Olive oil + hot skillet = Trans-FAT
Real clean fish -
Egg yolks raw - or low heat

More greens folks

Disclosure: No one size fits all - but hope you will consider the above guidlines

Seeds - soaked if you can

Nuts - eh - many issues for people - not that clean & hard to digest

Quick Ideas Here - Hope you will consider

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The Dotcom Hippie

14 years ago

I'm about 75% raw vegan right now. I go up to 100% from time to time. I'll never eat mostly cooked foods again - I was walking around feeling like **** for years without even knowing it. How you feel eating like this is incredible.

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maddiet

14 years ago

I am not 100% a raw vegan but I became a vegetarian four years ago and it was one of my best decisions.

If you haven't been eating dairy for a year or so you should test your B12 levels because you can't get it from plants. I take B12 suplements every month because it's esential for your brain.

I am really curios if your decisions have religious motivations also?

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14 years ago

Very informative post, honestly I'm not a Vegan. But trying to strike a healthy balance in dietary habits.

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Wayne Cochrane

14 years ago

Originally Posted by maksym

Hi
I am wondering is here any raw vegan?

And how long are you with this style of living?

Yes I am raw vegan.

I stopped eating meat 34 years ago.
I stopped eating seafood about 25 years ago.
I stopped eating dairy foods (became vegan) about 20 years ago.
I have been eating almost 100% raw vegan now for about 3 years.

I only wish I had become raw vegan in the beginning 34 years ago!

Wayne.

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Zabrina

14 years ago

I'm interested in working my way towards a raw vegan diet. I tried a vegetarian diet for about a month in February-March and really liked it, since I'm concerned about the meat industry and feel guilty eating meat when I know about it what I do!

My only concerns are ease of preparation, nutrition, and money. I'm going to be starting to cook for myself starting either this September in a fairly isolated area of Canada or next September in Japan.

Either way, my food budget is limited (think $100-$200/month) and I need to ensure I get the right balance of nutrients within that budget, since I'm a rather small individual who doesn't tend to eat much at the best of times and I struggle with getting enough iron. Plus, I'll have limited food prep time between full-time school and full-time work.

But I'm doing advance research now in case my plan for September works out so I can start off on the right foot. Any more pearls of wisdom people have are much appreciated.

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nelsonbiglar

14 years ago

I wouldn't say that I'm vegan, yet! I have really changed my eating habits in the last year, green drink (naka - vital greens) in the morning, 4000 international units of vitamin e a day, calcium suppliments, and good all around vitamin supplements. 70%raw green foods/30% low fat split in my meals. I try 5-6 meals a day. I zig for 6 days and take a zag day to eat whatever I want.

Its up to us all to take care of ourselves and not hope for a magic bullet when we get older or get sick.

I have been following the acid/alkaline approach which I got the first bit of info through some of Tony Robbins info which led me to Dr Robert Young and his approach to eating and health. Bacteria and all the bad stuff in us can't live in an alkaline state. So the more acidic our bodies are the more we may get sick. Its really been a great experience to learn this and follow through on it.

I must say that there are times when this whole process becomes difficult but in the long run its make all the sense in the world.

Take care everyone... eat like you know you should and leave the pills with the doctors.

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xiaophil 14 years ago

Thanks everyone for their insights into their diets.

This thread has inspired me to do a 30 day trial.

Could someone please tell me the best way to get started?

I have access to a variety of raw foods but no idea of recipes and would prefer something as simple as possible - there's no time for gourmet preparations.

Perhaps you could share your favorite staple recipes?

Thanks again,

Phil.

EDIT: OK I get it now - raw food.

Here's my favorite recipe so far:

1) Chop it up (optional)

2) Mix it together (optional)

Works Great!
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Alvina Torres

14 years ago

I'm hugely into raw food...playing with the idea of going vegan. I actually maintain a blog and column about raw food and just started a book. I was 100% for a while but slowly items like coffee which I absolutely love came back into my diet.

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CrocGena

14 years ago

I'm all for raw vegan foods too, but my wife cooks too good and I don't want to disappoint her

Well when i'm at work, I only eat raw foods.

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Tatiana Aleshina

14 years ago

Thanks!
I am trying to stick to a vegetarian/vegan diet for myself and my son (3,5 years old) and I am fighting the same battles with my parents! -- "what!! the child must have meat!!"

It's great to know that someone is winning!

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rajhu

14 years ago

Hi Folks,

I just saw this discussion while searching for something else so I figured I'd chime in.

I've been 100% Raw Vegan since 2001 and have been partially raw since 1996.

The most incredible thing is that my 6.5 years of depression went away in just one day of eating about 50% of my diet as raw fruits and vegetables.

Of course, the more I ate raw the better I felt and feel. And it's fantastic in it's anti-aging effects.

These days I teach people easy ways to beat cooked food addiction.

If you're interested I provide a lot of free information in the form of audios on one of my websites:

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Savory Veggie Stews are so easy to prepare a baby can do it. For a cool treat check out the video of our son Andrew (at 2.5 years old) making dinner for us ala Savory Veggie Stews style. It's all the way at the bottom of the page of the Savory Veggie Stews site linked to above.

Andrew our son has been 100% raw his whole life and is doing amazingly well. Our whole family eats 100% raw we don't have any desire to go back to poisoning ourselves with cooked food because what we eat every day simply tastes amazing and yet it has all of these incredible health and personal growth advantages.

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Kaitlyn Aliano

14 years ago

Originally Posted by rajhu

Hi Folks,

I just saw this discussion while searching for something else so I figured I'd chime in.

I've been 100% Raw Vegan since 2001 and have been partially raw since 1996.

The most incredible thing is that my 6.5 years of depression went away in just one day of eating about 50% of my diet as raw fruits and vegetables.

Of course, the more I ate raw the better I felt and feel. And it's fantastic in it's anti-aging effects.

These days I teach people easy ways to beat cooked food addiction.

If you're interested I provide a lot of free information in the form of audios on one of my websites:

LINK

And you may want to check out my top secret for beating cooked food cravings:

LINK

Savory Veggie Stews are so easy to prepare a baby can do it. For a cool treat check out the video of our son Andrew (at 2.5 years old) making dinner for us ala Savory Veggie Stews style. It's all the way at the bottom of the page of the Savory Veggie Stews site linked to above.

Andrew our son has been 100% raw his whole life and is doing amazingly well. Our whole family eats 100% raw we don't have any desire to go back to poisoning ourselves with cooked food because what we eat every day simply tastes amazing and yet it has all of these incredible health and personal growth advantages.

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ROGER! You post on WF? Wow, who knew?

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14 years ago

Hi Kaitlyn,

Yes I've been a member here for many years. I think this is actually my second forum membership.

Love the Warrior Forum and Allen Says.

Be Raw, Be Healthy, Be Happy,

Roger Haeske

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RobynRed

14 years ago

Oh what a wise bunch in this thread

Been raw vegan for a few months now after reading the 80 10 10 book by Doug Graham (recommended reading if you haven't already) ... love him

I also frequent the 30 bananas a day forum (highly recommended) to help keep me on track!

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Wayne Cochrane

14 years ago

Originally Posted by RobynRed

Oh what a wise bunch in this thread

Been raw vegan for a few months now after reading the 80 10 10 book by Doug Graham (recommended reading if you haven't already) ... love him

I also frequent the 30 bananas a day forum (highly recommended) to help keep me on track!

Hello Robyn.

I am also a member of 30 Bananas A Day. (Although a very quiet member.)

Please be careful of the anti-salt misinformation put out by Doug Graham and his followers.
They, like almost everyone else in this society have been brainwashed by the medical industry (whose [recurring income/continuity] market is sick people

).

Most (like about 90%) people in Western societies (including many raw fooders and raw food "gurus") are suffering from SEVERE salt and mineral deficiencies.

Natural sea salt or Himalayan salt is vital for most peoples' health.

Anyway, good luck with it and take care!

Wayne.

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RobynRed

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Wayne Cochrane

Hello Robyn.

I am also a member of 30 Bananas A Day. (Although a very quiet member.)

Please be careful of the anti-salt misinformation put out by Doug Graham and his followers.
They, like almost everyone else in this society have been brainwashed by the medical industry (whose [recurring income/continuity] market is sick people

).

Most (like about 90%) people in Western societies (including many raw fooders and raw food "gurus") are suffering from SEVERE salt and mineral deficiencies.

Natural sea salt or Himalayan salt is vital for most peoples' health.

Anyway, good luck with it and take care!

Wayne.

Hey Wayne

Thanks for the reply. Doug doesn't state we don't need sodium, rather we don't need the artificial "table salt".

I get naturally occuring sodium from foods such as celery, passion fruit, tender young greens etc

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pube12

14 years ago

Very interesting. Steve Pavlina online is a great resource for blogging about being a vegan. Check it out..

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Kaitlyn Aliano

14 years ago

My eyes literally lit up when I spotted this post! I have been raw vegan on and off since 2007, but have been close to 100% for the past few months and am actually leaving to WWOOF (see WWOOF.ORG), volunteer on an organic farm, July 1st!

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14 years ago

Yes I've been raw vegan (95%) for the past 10 years. I offer courses and retreats from my home in Bali.

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Gary Pettit

14 years ago

I have to say, Vegan is not for me.
I'm a meat-and-potatoes man, for sure. But I find my energy both in the exercise I do everyday, and moderation with which I approach everything.
But I must also say, the vegans don't have any worry about the massive egg recall!

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daj

14 years ago

Use to be a raw foodist for 2 years. Now I mostly eat animal fat, bone marrow, and meats. I also find local berries in the wild to eat at times (during the summer/fall months). Most fruit these days in grocery stores (including Whole Foods) are all hybrids and are as far away from their natural origins as possible.

Watch video: http://www.youtube.com/v/I_fta0-93Ms
Daniel Vitalis is a well of informaton! One of the only down-to-earth raw "animal" foodists out there, IMO.

Many raw foodists are eating foods from tropical locations so far away from where they live. Talk about not being eco-friendly! I think people should adopt a local diet based on their current location. There's food you can forage everywhere, yes even in the desert!

Of course you'll recieve benefits at first when you change your diet from processed foods to raw fruits, greens, and veggies, but slowly your health will decline and you'll become a shell of yourself if you continue in that direction. Many fruitarians have so many cavities their teeth look wretched. Many of the popular raw foodists have dealt with cavities due to their high fruit consumption, and many have changed to a mix of a raw food and animal diet after they realized how veggies and fruits won't give them everything they need and that sugar buzz just leaves them to crash and burn. Our ancester's all shares the same bond of being hunter-gatherers, they didn't just eat fruits and veggies. I think everyone needs to learn to hunt and forage for their own food if you really want to bond with nature.

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Loren Woirhaye

14 years ago

I was sent this interesting book to review:

"Green For Life"

It's not that well-written but the thesis is powerful, that
we might do well to look at the chimpanzee diet and base
a vegan/raw diet around what the chimps eat.

The author was raw vegan for a long time, and her husband
and kids too, but they found the diet wasn't working as
well for them after awhile.

Many raw food people, vegans and vegetarians may be eating
too much starch (bananas, potatoes), starchy hybrids (corn,
wheat) and not enough plain, bitter greens. Chimps don't
eat a lot of tubers (taters) but they do mostly eat greens and,
when they find them, fruit. They don't eat a lot of nuts -
many raw food people eat too many nuts, which have protein
but are hard to digest.

The vitamin content in beet greens, for example, is off the charts -
but almost nobody eats them. Beet roots are sugary and starchy,
but the greens have neither of those drawbacks, plus more
protein than the roots.

Look into it - start blending up whole greens and see how you
feel. Trust, but verify.

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daj

14 years ago

From RawFamily.com (Book Author of "Green For Life"):

"The fresh ripe fruits dominate the flavor of the greens and the absence of any fats maximize the absorption of the nutrients." - about green fruit smoothies...

Considering Vitamin A, D, E, and K are FAT-soluble vitamins which many leafy greens have a lot of, how does the absence of fat maximize absorption of these nutrients when these vitamins are stored by the body and dissolve in fat? only Vitamin C and B vitamins are WATER-soluble and they quicly leave the body if you don't need them.

BTW, Humans lack the enzymes necessary to digest cellulose. Leafy greens work well as a fiber in humans. They act like a broom for your digestive system to clean you out. But... most of the nutritional value of these plants don't get digested due to the cellulose wall.

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rajhu 14 years ago

Actually there are fats in virtually all "whole" raw foods including fruits.

Leafy greens tend to be fairly high in fat compared to fruit.

For instance spinach is 14% of it's calories from fat. Romaine 15%, celery 10%, lambsquarter is 16% and Boston lettuce is 14% fat.

In any case, a raw food diet still has plenty of fat in it. And some raw foodistst unfortunately eat way more fat than the average person on a Standard American Diet.

Personally I like to keep it at 15% of calories or less from fat and that is more than enough.

Been 100% raw for over 9 years and doing fantastic.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by daj

From RawFamily.com (Book Author of "Green For Life"):
BTW, Humans lack the enzymes necessary to digest cellulose. Leafy greens work well as a fiber in humans. They act like a broom for your digestive system to clean you out. But... most of the nutritional value of these plants don't get digested due to the cellulose wall.

That's true. That's why we have to chew raw greens to a liquid to
break the cell walls and get the nutrients. That's a lot of chewing
and hard on the teeth. That's why most people in this mode of
diet have turned to high-powered blenders like the Vita-Mix to
masticate the cell walls and make the green nutrition available
without all the time and energy investment chewing requires, not
to mention the tooth wear.

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Jeff Noel 14 years ago

I've seen it mention time and time again. "It's to expensive."

It is more expensive being sick.

Food for thought no pun intended.
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nucleus 14 years ago

I did for six months years ago. Here is the thing, many people get excellent results in the short run because most people have too much internal heat, and vegan diets are very cooling, too cooling for long term use for most people.

You know what I call vegans and vegetarians? Sick people. All the long term vegans I know have crappy skin and brittle, dull hair. Short term, six months, a year, no problem; longer than that is getting on thin ice.

Keep in mind that there is not one single native culture that is vegetarian, much less vegan. So if you are doing this long term you are experimenting with your health, there is no long-term successful history of such an extreme diet.

That said everyone is different, and you do what is best for you. The chinese regard a vegetarian diet as very unhealthful.

Vegetarians have delayed cancer and heart disease but accelerated neurodegenerative and auto-immune diseases.

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TommyG

13 years ago

Wow!! I'm really surprised to see this thread here. I have been a vegetarian for 15 years and in the last year went to 75% raw food. I feel absolutely great!!

One thing I see some people chiming in about is that vegans or vegetarians are unhealthy, it's not true if they are removing processed foods and sugars from their diets. Many people become vegetarians for health reasons and cut out the meat but still eat processed foods, sugary foods and this is what is making people unhealthy.

Dr. Dan mentioned Dr. Robert Young and I agree. He is amazing. Medical doctors say you can't reverse type 1 diabetes but Dr. Young has. He also helped Kris Carr, author of Crazy, Sexy Cancer, to reverse her "rare, aggressive incurable cancer with a 100% fatality rate" and she did it with a raw diet.

Dr. Young and his wife are meeting with President Obama and Michelle this weekend to discuss his amazing results helping children reverse diabetes. The raw diet works and works great but if you are going to continue to eat acidic foods that cause cancer and diabetes (soda, meat, processed foods, artificial sweeteners, sugary foods, etc) then you will not feel better.

Love the idea of seeing some many vegans and raw fooders here on the WF!!

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13 years ago

Keep spreading the word about the benefits of a meatless diet for the survival of the planet. Our grandchildren depend on you.
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Wow!! I'm really surprised to see this thread here. I have been a vegetarian for 15 years and in the last year went to 75% raw food. I feel absolutely great!!

One thing I see some people chiming in about is that vegans or vegetarians are unhealthy, it's not true if they are removing processed foods and sugars from their diets. Many people become vegetarians for health reasons and cut out the meat but still eat processed foods, sugary foods and this is what is making people unhealthy.

Dr. Dan mentioned Dr. Robert Young and I agree. He is amazing. Medical doctors say you can't reverse type 1 diabetes but Dr. Young has. He also helped Kris Carr, author of Crazy, Sexy Cancer, to reverse her "rare, aggressive incurable cancer with a 100% fatality rate" and she did it with a raw diet.

Dr. Young and his wife are meeting with President Obama and Michelle this weekend to discuss his amazing results helping children reverse diabetes. The raw diet works and works great but if you are going to continue to eat acidic foods that cause cancer and diabetes (soda, meat, processed foods, artificial sweeteners, sugary foods, etc) then you will not feel better.

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Anj

13 years ago

You will live long, will not suffer diseases and have a healthy body through out your years. I know that food mainly is the reason why people get sick. Keep it up you are doing great!

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cebuana

13 years ago

Yea, since 1976. Went from junk food smoker to organic raw food non-smoker (except marijuana) overnight. All depends on where your head is at. For me it was love of life and a desire not to hasten leaving it.

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13 years ago

I was told by the doctor not too long ago that my cholesterol was high and he told me that the only way to reverse the damage done to my arteries is to be a vegan. I never thought I would hear that from a doctor. I have been making the transition slowly though. I did quit smoking a couple of years ago and have felt way better!!

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13 years ago

I think I have tried the 50% version I don't know about 100% vegan

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batchos 13 years ago

A vegan diet is 100% no meat. The health and environmental benefits are worth the price you pay.

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J23

13 years ago

I stopped eating meat about a year ago and for the most part I am vegan, but I will occasionally (2-3 times per month max) have something with cheese in it. I don't drink cows milk at all anymore or consume any other dairy except the occasional cheese and I'm trying to completely stop that too.

I do eat a lot of raw foods (mainly green/superfood smoothies and nuts/seeds), but there's several things stopping me from going 100% raw:

For one, I like warm food too much. I experimented with a lot of raw food recipes a few months ago, and I just couldn't get over the fact that everything was cold. I have a dehydrator and I suppose I could warm it up in there, but what takes 2 hours to get warm in a dehydrator takes 5 minutes on the stove or 30 seconds in the microwave.

The other reason is probably just not knowing exactly what to eat. Eating a bowl of lettuce or spinach or a few pieces of fruit just doesn't satisfy me at all. I have a really fast metabolism and even if I eat a giant tofu burger on a sprouted wheat bun with 2 baked potatoes, I'll be hungry again in 1.5-2 hours.

How do you guys get over those problems? Maybe I just need some better recipes. Anyone got some good ones?

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Originally Posted by J23

I stopped eating meat about a year ago and for the most part I am vegan, but I will occasionally (2-3 times per month max) have something with cheese in it. I don't drink cows milk at all anymore or consume any other dairy except the occasional cheese and I'm trying to completely stop that too.

I do eat a lot of raw foods (mainly green/superfood smoothies and nuts/seeds), but there's several things stopping me from going 100% raw:

For one, I like warm food too much. I experimented with a lot of raw food recipes a few months ago, and I just couldn't get over the fact that everything was cold. I have a dehydrator and I suppose I could warm it up in there, but what takes 2 hours to get warm in a dehydrator takes 5 minutes on the stove or 30 seconds in the microwave.

The other reason is probably just not knowing exactly what to eat. Eating a bowl of lettuce or spinach or a few pieces of fruit just doesn't satisfy me at all. I have a really fast metabolism and even if I eat a giant tofu burger on a sprouted wheat bun with 2 baked potatoes, I'll be hungry again in 1.5-2 hours.

How do you guys get over those problems? Maybe I just need some better recipes. Anyone got some good ones?

You could add some rice to your diet..Makes you full and slows down your metabolic rate by a little..

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batchos

13 years ago

Check out the first link in my signature. This is a good starting point for finding recipes.

Originally Posted by J23

I stopped eating meat about a year ago and for the most part I am vegan, but I will occasionally (2-3 times per month max) have something with cheese in it. I don't drink cows milk at all anymore or consume any other dairy except the occasional cheese and I'm trying to completely stop that too.

I do eat a lot of raw foods (mainly green/superfood smoothies and nuts/seeds), but there's several things stopping me from going 100% raw:

For one, I like warm food too much. I experimented with a lot of raw food recipes a few months ago, and I just couldn't get over the fact that everything was cold. I have a dehydrator and I suppose I could warm it up in there, but what takes 2 hours to get warm in a dehydrator takes 5 minutes on the stove or 30 seconds in the microwave.

The other reason is probably just not knowing exactly what to eat. Eating a bowl of lettuce or spinach or a few pieces of fruit just doesn't satisfy me at all. I have a really fast metabolism and even if I eat a giant tofu burger on a sprouted wheat bun with 2 baked potatoes, I'll be hungry again in 1.5-2 hours.

How do you guys get over those problems? Maybe I just need some better recipes. Anyone got some good ones?

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J23 13 years ago

Originally Posted by JamesEdwards1

You could add some rice to your diet..Makes you full and slows down your metabolic rate by a little..

Yep, I do that already. I eat a good amount of rice and quinoa, but I still get hungry all the time.

Plus, wouldn't those not be considered raw since they need to be cooked for your body to be able to digest them?

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Check out the first link in my signature. This is a good starting point for finding recipes.

I'll check it out, thanks.
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janicelou

13 years ago

Originally Posted by maksym

Hi
I am wondering is here any raw vegan?

I and my family nearly 2 years uses raw food diet.
And we really see dramatic changes.
Actually, we can't even go back to "normal" food.
We are so glad that we made such decision 2 years ago.
I remember how we started and we spent more then
6 months to change smoothly our lifestyle.
Actually, my wife started firstly and then I nearly her decided
to do that as well.
After nearly 10 months, I also decided to try 100% raw
food diet for at least 4 weeks. That was my biggest breakthrough...
( I was inspired by some books).
And now... we are nearly 90-95% of raw food use in our
nowadays. At summer time - it was way easier for us.
And our favorite food was simple tomatoes with garlic. Mmmmmm....
that is so tasty.
And now when winter is close we change food again to different
salads and different nuts with seeds.
We also have a daughter (may be you saw my videos).
She is 2,7 years old and almost never ate meat.
She is doing very great. And many time we have conflicts
with our old parents, which can't understand how it is possible
to use ONLY raw food diet. :-)

And how long are you with this style of living?

What are the books that inspired you??

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Lucas Adamski

13 years ago

I'm a raw vegan and I love it

Been on 2 month juice feast, all green juices only, awesome!

The only bad side effect of this diet is too much energy

Yes, sometimes it's hard to handle it. Plus you feel so good all the time. Peace and love

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Centurian 13 years ago

Hey Lucas. My father and mother are raw vegans. I was when younger.

Since I've been a marketing madman and sales machine for many years, I've only had time for whatever I could kill and eat. LOL.

I did a 30-day green diet with my father for his 50th wedding anniversary last year. Hope all is well in Poland!
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Vibrant Warrior

12 years ago

"Almost" a raw vegan. Ever since I feel so much lighter, energetic and full of zest. I work out everyday too and this also does wonders.

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Hellbabe

12 years ago

Oh, yes. I am raw vegan too... here is my blog; I post a lot: awesomeveganblog.com

I am looking to start IM business to make money, any advice for compassionate way of doing it?

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runningonjuice

12 years ago

I juice 'feast' a lot and have lost 70 pounds by doing this. I also started running and have completed three half marathons. I could not run for 5 minutes before I started it. Thesedays I fast a few times a year but mainly it is drinking one good green juice/smoothie each day that helps me. That is why I started my site which is to chronicle my own journey and others who try this.

I love the vegan diet but as someone who travels a lot it is very difficult for me to stick to. I have completed several 21 day vegan kickstarts and always felt so much better when on that regime.

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JoeUK

12 years ago

Trying to make the transition from veggy to vegan but just finding it hard to stop eating things that contain milk - which is almost bloomin' everything!

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velvetadvert

12 years ago

I was veggie, I was vegan, and now I'm eating fish. This ethical thing just don't work for me, but it's only my opinion, of course I respect veg movement.
Avoiding milk is really an issue... My advice: read "Vegan Freak", this book has a lot of answers and advices for newbie-vegans.

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ScottGordon

12 years ago

I've been vegan for almost 9 years and did raw vegan for 4 months last year but had to stop because I lost too much weight.

However, I felt the best I've ever felt. "Light" and full of energy. Vibrant. And, my blood chemistry was the most perfect it's ever been.

Green smoothies every single morning.

Now, I'm probably eating about 60% raw, virtually no processed foods at all.

After I became vegan all my allergies went away.

For those interested, there are lots of books now available to help you get started.

Unfortunately, some vegans eat terribly unhealthy diets. But if you do it right, it is (in my opinion) one of the very healthiest life choices you could implement.

I became vegan for health reasons (and was already vegetarian for many years before that so it wasn't a major transition for me.) The environmental and moral and ethical benefits are a great bonus.

Eventually, I phased out most all wheat products, most corn, and all soy. To those still eating a traditional Standard American Diet (SAD), this probably all sounds pretty restrictive and if you have a deprivation mentality, then probably it is.

But when I became vegan it opened up an entire new world of food. Lots of international dishes are vegan (because meat and dairy are so expensive in many cultures -- they're only cheap in this country because of enormous subsidies.)

So when I became vegan I discovered all kinds of grains and vegetables I had never heard of. My diet is now far more diversified than it was before which, I think, has to be a good thing. And I almost never have a salad (which is all that many people can think of when they think vegan.)

If you're interested, I'd recommend that you simply start adding more fresh greens and fruits to your diet. If that doesn't sound appetizing, then just drink a "green smoothie" each day (even kids like them -- about 60% fruit and 40% fresh greens like spinach, kale, Swiss chard, or lettuce.) Look at some of the videos on "Green Smoothies" on YouTube.

There are lots of great YouTube Videos on vegan and also raw "cooking." You can make surprisingly decadent desserts that are both raw and vegan. In fact, I have created delicious, raw vegan meals for guests who never realized that they were eating raw or vegan.

Hey, does this look vegan to you? Vegan Berry Pound Cake.
(It's vegan but not raw. And certainly not for diabetics.)

And get over the "not enough protein" thing. Americans, particularly, eat way too much protein which is hard on the kidneys.

Ounce for ounce, broccoli and many vegetables have more protein than steak. Check out the vegan body builders' websites. Oxen, elephants, and all the big mammals discovered long ago that you can build muscle without eating meat.

OK, enough of this. Sorry, I didn't mean to go into so much detail and certainly don't want to rant.

Regardless of how or what you eat now, be sure to drink lots of clean, pure water and exercise and get plenty of sleep. And don't forget to floss.

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Elamros

12 years ago

Planning to be one. Not really vegan though. It's hard to give up meat. I love fish and chicken. And I agree that vegan diet is healthy.

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Aira Bongco

12 years ago

Tried it but did not survive. I badly need huge doses of protein. But then I always wanted to try it again.

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iceapplez 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Aira Bongco

Tried it but did not survive. I badly need huge doses of protein. But then I always wanted to try it again.

Maybe I can help : some sources of protein : )

1. Vegetables - the proper foundation for all diets.
• 1 avocado - 10 grams
• 1 cup broccoli - 5 grams
• 1 cup spinach - 5 grams
• 2 cups cooked kale - 5 grams
• 1 cup boiled peas - 9 grams
• 1 cup cooked sweet potato - 5 grams

2. Legumes, also vegetables, get their own mention. Specifically lentils and beans, the foundation of many diets for centuries.
• 1 cup soybeans - 28 grams (1 cup tofu - 22 grams, 1 cup tempeh - 30 grams)
• 1 cup lentils - 18 grams
• 1 cup refried beans - 15.5 grams
• 1 cup garbanzo beans (and hummus) - 14.5 grams
• 1 cup pinto, kidney, black beans - 13-15 grams
• 1 oz peanuts - 6.5 grams

3. Nuts and seeds - a staple in most vegetarian and vegan diets.
• 1 oz. cashews - 4.4 grams
• 1 oz. sesame seeds 6.5 grams, 3 tablespoons of tahini - 8 grams
• 1/4 cup (2 oz.) walnuts - 5 grams
• 1 oz. pistachios - 5.8 grams
• 2 tbsp almonds - 4 grams
• Nut butters - peanut butter, almond butter, cashew butter - 2 tablespoons has about 8 grams of protein

4. Non-dairy milk - Soy, almond, ancient grain. 1 cup gets you 7-9 grams of protein.

5. Grains - Ancient grains, sprouted grains, multi-grains - a major part of the diet.
• Quinoa is versatile and delicious. 1 cup - 9 grams.
• Amaranth, bulgur, brown rice, wheat germ, oat bran are other grains with a high protein content.
• Seitan, or flavored wheat gluten, has about 52 grams per cup, but it may not be a good idea to eat a lot of it.
• Oatmeal - 1 cup = 6 grams.
• Sprouted grain bread products - buns, tortillas, bread. Pack a sandwich or a wrap and you'll get 7-10 grams from the bread alone.
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ScottGordon

12 years ago

Nice post, Iceapplez. Thanks for the protein reference.

Here's a short video on a Vegan Ultraman (triathlete) about a guy who became vegan at age 40, got into shape and became one of 35 competitors in the Ultraman contest.

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iceapplez

12 years ago

Originally Posted by ScottGordon

Nice post, Iceapplez. Thanks for the protein reference.

No problem! I just copied and pasted that

, some of that info is probably a bit of a ballpark amounts of protein but the point I wanted to make was to show how easy it really can be to get what protein we all need (one of the big recurring questions from non-vegans : But, where do you get your protein?? Or your B12?? etc..)

Watching video now, thank-you!

On a humorous note, here's a bingo card for all the vegans on WF. Enjoy!

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ScottGordon

12 years ago

Originally Posted by iceapplez

On a humorous note, here's a bingo card for all the vegans on WF. Enjoy!

"I didn't climb to the top of the food chain to eat plants."
ha ha Hadn't heard that one.

In addition to having a clearer mind, I wonder if being vegan improves your sense of humor?

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LuvAbundance

11 years ago

Wow, this is a cool thread. Raw vegan internet marketers...talk about a niche!

I just HAD to chime in. I went all raw vegan for a few months and my energy was incredible. Like Lucas said, you almost buzz with energy all of the time.

I've relaxed it a bit, because of traveling and prep time and energy (yes, even just eating salad, fruits and juices takes more time than "regular" food).

I firmly believe that the most important first step is to cut out your processed foods and eat more organic / grass fed, etc.

It's also REALLY IMPORTANT to keep in mind that each of our bodies is different. No one guru necessarily has the right answers for you. Be smart and pay attention to how YOUR body reacts to something. When people say this or that is or is not good...I just smile and nod...because they are spouting theories. A theory becomes a fact for YOU when you try it out and you notice benefits for you. This is one reason a lot of these movements annoy me. It's the "my way or yer gonna die!" mentality that is, well quite narrow minded especially for people like us, out here paving our OWN way in the world, NOT following others like sheep. Whew, had to rant a little on that. I have the same views on religious practices: If it works for you, AWESOME!! Good for you, keep doing it! But don't try to convince everybody that your way is the only way. It isn't. This is why I left the Buddhist chanting group I was with. I loved the chanting...hated the dogma. Ok, #end rant

Next thing that might be good to mention: Your MINDSET is probably more important than any thing that you put in your body, anyways. Yes, I really did experience amazing energy on the all raw diet (did I say vegan? Sorry, no, I consumed sushi and raw beef at times. Again, don't like to be pigeon-holed). But so much more important is the mindset that you are taking. Another reason I am not crazy about all of these gurus...they tend to instill fear of doing things "wrong" or "ruining" your health, etc. Ok, yes, I understand where they are coming from...But seriously, your mindset matters. If you are going to go ahead and eat that hamburger...do it with joy and gusto!

Off to register rawfoodimer.com, now....

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Wayne Cochrane

11 years ago

Watch that word "mindset".

Ain't no such thing as a "positive" set mind.

Originally Posted by LuvAbundance

Wow, this is a cool thread. Raw vegan internet marketers...talk about a niche!

I just HAD to chime in. I went all raw vegan for a few months and my energy was incredible. Like Lucas said, you almost buzz with energy all of the time.

I've relaxed it a bit, because of traveling and prep time and energy (yes, even just eating salad, fruits and juices takes more time than "regular" food).

I firmly believe that the most important first step is to cut out your processed foods and eat more organic / grass fed, etc.

It's also REALLY IMPORTANT to keep in mind that each of our bodies is different. No one guru necessarily has the right answers for you. Be smart and pay attention to how YOUR body reacts to something. When people say this or that is or is not good...I just smile and nod...because they are spouting theories. A theory becomes a fact for YOU when you try it out and you notice benefits for you. This is one reason a lot of these movements annoy me. It's the "my way or yer gonna die!" mentality that is, well quite narrow minded especially for people like us, out here paving our OWN way in the world, NOT following others like sheep. Whew, had to rant a little on that. I have the same views on religious practices: If it works for you, AWESOME!! Good for you, keep doing it! But don't try to convince everybody that your way is the only way. It isn't. This is why I left the Buddhist chanting group I was with. I loved the chanting...hated the dogma. Ok, #end rant

Next thing that might be good to mention: Your MINDSET is probably more important than any thing that you put in your body, anyways. Yes, I really did experience amazing energy on the all raw diet (did I say vegan? Sorry, no, I consumed sushi and raw beef at times. Again, don't like to be pigeon-holed). But so much more important is the mindset that you are taking. Another reason I am not crazy about all of these gurus...they tend to instill fear of doing things "wrong" or "ruining" your health, etc. Ok, yes, I understand where they are coming from...But seriously, your mindset matters. If you are going to go ahead and eat that hamburger...do it with joy and gusto!

Off to register rawfoodimer.com, now....

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tjaysen70

11 years ago

hey this belongs in off topic section. But I digress, yeah the problem with vegan is getting the necessary amounts of protein, riboflavin, vit A, from meats and other important vitamins like C and magnesium from dairy. Man lived off fruits and berries, and had enormous jaws and less muscle mass, they were cavemen. When they discovered fire and ate cooked meat they became stronger and their jaw sizes decreased.

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Michael Ten

11 years ago

That diet is waaay to extreme for me.

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Sarevok

11 years ago

I love fresh whole foods.

But my family are straight up carnivores lol.

It's not feasible for me to live the lifestlye.

BUT, I am proud to say at least 50% of the food I eat is 100% whole foods.

Problem with whole foods: No nachos, no spaghetti, etc etc.

I prefer simpler lifestyle, I don't like calorie counting or getting itno technicalities regarding what is or isn't a whole food.

But, I respect your decision, and realize the many health benefits.

But, no filet Mignon for you? Ever?

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Kezz

11 years ago

So cool to spot this thread today as this is actually day two of a switch to mostly raw vegan diet for me.

I'm making the switch off the back of a 7 day juice fast which was absolutely fantastic. I haven't felt this good since I was a little kid!

I used to be a vegetarian years ago, and then a vegan for a while. I fell off the wagon and since doing that I gradually packed on over 30kg. (About 60 pounds I think).

I saw the light and switched back to a vegan diet about 6 weeks ago and I've already dropped over 8kg (about 20lbs) which is way more than I expected by this point!

I was having heart problems, which are now gone. I have loads more energy, aches & pains have disappeared, and I need less sleep.

I'm also way more clear mentally, and it's funny that someone mentioned above does it give you a better sense of humor, because I find myself laughing way more.

Things that used to make me feel super stressed now just float right by me.

I fell off the wagon once, but the shift in how I feel in just six short weeks has me committed to staying vegan for the rest of my life.

And the results from the juice fast have me committed to eating as much raw food as I possibly can!

Absolutely fantastic.

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11 years ago

I am 100 percent vegan and right now 50 percent raw. One time I was on raw for 6 months and I was so strong although I lost so much weight that my friends were worry for me. However I could swim almost 100 laps -- not lying here -- the strength was incredible and my skin was translucent and my breath smelled fresh all the time. Vegan lifestyle is not only healthy for us but helps the planet and saves 15 billions animals to be killed each year.

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11 years ago

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DBracey

11 years ago

Great thread, thanks for starting it. Yes, I too am on a mostly raw plant based diet and purchase everything else based on cruelty free choice. Call that vegan if you want, but for me I don't really think of it as a label like 'vegan'. All it means to me is I eat and utilize things that don't involve any kind of animal, and what I eat I aim to be mostly raw.

I find since being on it I sleep better, work better, and I'm definitely far stronger when I work out. I also notice that I don't get sore no matter how hard I push with weights or cardio exercises. Before being on this diet I would work out and be sore as a **** the next day, without fail. Usually even sorer on day 2. Now, it just doesn't happen. I'd heard many vegan athletes say they are stronger and suffer less muscle soreness, but I wasn't sure I believed it until it became true for myself.

Aside from all the benefits of which there are more than I've written here, I've also discovered a ton of awesome food recipes that I would never have in a million years tried otherwise.

If any of you guys are in Australia and you want a healthy vegan chocolate treat, look up Naturally Goji Dark Chocolate Goji Berries. I would never have tried those if I wasn't on this diet, and by the great God's of taste they are the best chocolate treats I've ever eaten!

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flashlarue

11 years ago

I went vegetarian in 1980 and have been total vegan for the past five years. Love the live style and love not killing animals.

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Zach B

11 years ago

Just switched back to raw vegan a week ago. Already feeling substantially better. Lighter, clearer. Great to know other warriors are fighting the battle for their health as well!

It is not as expensive as you think. Here is a money saving tip.
In the morning soak some flax seeds. Then juice carrots, garlic and ginger. Take the leftovers from juicing and blend it with the flax, season and dehydrate for crackers. Then juice your greens and boil the leftovers from the green juicing in a pot of water, seasoning to taste (I just use salt and garlic). Then strain that and you can save it as a delicious mineral broth. Waste not want not : ).

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JTDonnelly

11 years ago

I started following an Alkaline diet and I've never felt better!

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dvduval

10 years ago

I'm Vegan for the last 18 months and loving it. I'm not raw vegan, but just your average vegan and loving. No problem eating out either here in Southern California.

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sophiadixon

10 years ago

I ate some raw vegan foods that my best friend did and I saw how tasteful and how easy they can be made.
At first I was a little skeptic about what this way of life promotes, but after I have red more I understood how benefic it can be to your body. I have been eating raw vegan foods for a couple of months and I see the improvements. I do not get tired easily and I feel my skin softer and it has a certain glow.
I reccomend it to all who want to try something new. You will definitely feel and look better!

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dvduval

10 years ago

Originally Posted by sophiadixon

I ate some raw vegan foods that my best friend did and I saw how tasteful and how easy they can be made.
At first I was a little skeptic about what this way of life promotes, but after I have red more I understood how benefic it can be to your body. I have been eating raw vegan foods for a couple of months and I see the improvements. I do not get tired easily and I feel my skin softer and it has a certain glow.
I reccomend it to all who want to try something new. You will definitely feel and look better!

This is a growing trend for sure. I see JayZ and Beyonce are trying it for 22 days now. With all the nasty mass produced meat facilities out there, I don't even miss it. It is just gross to me. Maybe I'm different in that I care about how we treat animals, but its great because I feel better too, not just for morale reasons, but I have more energy and my skin looks better.

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adamnassar

10 years ago

It is a lifestyle decision, and time commitment. Most families are really really hurting themselves, and it's sad. They have to be in a certain place or mindset to get into it.

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dvduval

10 years ago

Originally Posted by adamnassar

It is a lifestyle decision, and time commitment. Most families are really really hurting themselves, and it's sad. They have to be in a certain place or mindset to get into it.

If you do it right it can be just as cheap and fast too. Here are some ingredient examples:
rice
potatoes
beans (MANY kinds)
peas
lettuce
Leafy greens (spinach, kale, collards)
corn

If 90% of your diet was the above, you would be healthier than most Americans.

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NoEndInsight

10 years ago

Good for all of you and your efforts to getting healthy! Seriously that takes guts and discipline.

I have been a vegan for a year and just finished a good 2 month stint of just consuming smoothies/juices. It was a great cleanse and had tons of energy. My skin cleared up and my mind got focused. I just started eating some cooked foods mainly because I am broke and waiting for my first paycheck from a new job.

My goal is to be about 90-95% raw. It is just night and day when you really start to clean your body. If there is one thing I would recommend to any warrior on here, it is to clean up your diet. If you want endless energy and clarity, start slamming some fruits and veggies. It will seriously help you reach success and make you feel your best.

Thanks for listening and good luck on getting healthy!

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RuthStewart

10 years ago

I watched "Fat Sick and Nearly Dead" and started juicing. I hated juicing so much, particularly anything green. Loved it whole, hated it juiced. So then I went raw for a while, and I did come away from that sadly, but stayed vegetarian.

I feel better morally because of the meat industry, and I feel healthier in myself. I have reduced the meat my family eat too, but they are not vegetarian. Yet. *hehe!*

Best wishes,

Ruth

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cmcghie

9 years ago

Recently (about 4- 5 months now), I have been eating more raw food as a result of testimonies and documentaries I have seen and read. My diet is now 70% raw food and 30% cooked and I intend to be vegan before the year end. At the moment I eat carrot, spinach, broccoli and kale, all raw with chicken or fish. However, organic is best but more expensive. Nevertheless, I will go organic very soon and also grow my own vegetables. I'm feeling just great since I changed my diet and I believe I will feel even better being a raw vegan.

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jw22777

7 years ago

I have a few friends that actually do this and have lost an incredible amount of weight!
They've been trying to convince me to cross over to their side though!

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