Leadership: Define it in 3 words or less

Gh0zt

12 years ago

One word: Leadership!

Just playing...

Leadership in 3 words:

Responsibility.
Director.
Example.

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walterwombat

12 years ago

My word is BS. I don't mean that aggressively.

In my opinion, no-one deserves to be a leader. We are all equal.

My main reason for trying to live from the internet was exactly because I did not want a leader/boss/guru or whatever you choose to call them. My second reason was for freedom. It wasn't for more money. Just earning a living without leaders and with freedom is what I feel is success.

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BigFrank Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by walterwombat

In my opinion, no-one deserves to be a leader. We are all equal.

That's one of the absolute silliest things I have ever read on this forum, bar none. In business as in most things in life, that opinion is worth diddly-squat.

We may all be equal as human beings, but it is our skills, drive, intelligence, diversity, life experiences, courage, wisdom, understanding and 100 other traits that I can mention that separate us all and makes some people leaders and others followers.

If you choose to be a follower, that's fine. That's a legitimate choice and nothing to be ashamed of. Besides, if there weren't followers, who the hell would I have to lead toward, wealth, happiness and the power to make the world a better place for all. lol

Cheers. - Frank

P.S. And obviously you have never served in combat. Without strong leaders, your chance of getting back home alive are greatly diminished. It's because I have had strong leaders that I trusted with my life that I am able to sit here and write this post and gained the self-confidence from following their example to lead others. Men that I have taught to make $100K a year and more are very happy that they had me for a trainer and a leader and that I cared enough about them to teach them all I know about my area of expertise to go out and lead their own sales teams, successfully.

Please reevaluate your concept or you are doomed to failure at minimum wage, at best.
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MartyLabrado

12 years ago

Originally Posted by walterwombat

My word is BS. I don't mean that aggressively.

In my opinion, no-one deserves to be a leader. We are all equal.

My main reason for trying to live from the internet was exactly because I did not want a leader/boss/guru or whatever you choose to call them. My second reason was for freedom. It wasn't for more money. Just earning a living without leaders and with freedom is what I feel is success.

Leadership is not limited to the masses, Walter. It takes leadership to improve one's self.

In regards to your equality quip, I like to paraphrase Jefferson: All men are created equally and endowed by their Creator with inalienable rights that no government can take away without negative consequence, these rights including life, liberty, property, and the pursuit of happiness.

Whether you like it or not, everyone, at some point in their life, is called to lead. It's your decision to step up or not.

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cyberdenizen 12 years ago

Originally Posted by walterwombat

In my opinion, no-one deserves to be a leader. We are all equal.

A leader is not a boss who orders everybody else around, but someone who inspires others and guides them in the right direction. A leader does not use force; he or she uses influence. I've read somewhere that true leaders create more leaders, not followers.

Let me define leadership in two words: "Inspiring others."

Here's a great poster on leadership:
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devinesoul186

12 years ago

As per me leadership in three words is the ability of:

1. Initiative
2. Perseverance
3. Decision Making

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RWBiggs

12 years ago

Who said this "Either lead, follow, or get out of the way!" ?

Calculated Risks
Persistence
Direction

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Odahh

12 years ago

hmm,

the term the writer of the declaration of independence used was created equal.. not equal ..they where smart men being slave owners who where declaring their own freedom as they help others in servitude .

As for leadership .. because different situations need different kinds of leaders or leaders with different characteristics ..three words doesn't cut it .. as then you have to define those words .

a leader is the person who can get what needs to be done ,done with the people he or she has on hand or knows who to get in to do the job ...

the special opp team leader needs a different skill set than the guy running the small company .. or the person putting on a theater show .. the people in charge of making sure stuff gets done

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Odahh

12 years ago

my brief attempt at being in the military when i was 18 .. proved that i am one person never meant to fire a weapon at anything ..

but at 24 i was running shift and training people 20 plus years older than me and figuring out who needed to do what to get the job we where doing done .. knowing who could do what ..so people where on the correct task ..so thing got done when they needed ..

put me in charge of getting things up and running when i have experience in doing it .. i can lead people to that goal ..

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RogozRazvan

12 years ago

Control over self.

Most people forget that being a leader doesn't start at the management level. It starts at the personal one. If one can control his life, his actions, his behavior, he'll serve as an example for others and he'll be able to better lead those around him to the desired goal.

@WalterWombat - Communism is not cool anymore, nobody told you that?

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walterwombat

12 years ago

I'm not a communist - I wouldn't be on this forum if I was. I do believe in freedom of one's mind.

Most leaders are manipulators and most followers are suckers. Throughout history, there have been very few leaders with good intentions. Even the ones who appeared to have good intentions got rich and famous from it. There might be the odd exception.

Most wars are about money and power. The leaders decide to go to war and the young people (often the poorest young people who have nothing to do with the world of money and power) go and fight the war on behalf of the "leaders". That is one example of leaders getting followers to jump off a cliff for their own selfish reasons.

In business, you are told to set yourself up as an authority. So, you can sell. It's a sales technique. I'm not saying it is wrong. However, I am saying it is phoney and it is manipulative. You are not a real authority after reading a few books or posts, when there are others who have spent a lifetime interested in a subject. You present yourself as a leader to make sales.

If you are not a leader or a follower, you keep your independence and keep a free mind. Once you become a follower, you become someone who believes something just because the leader said so. If you are in a group, you might also become subject to the pressures from other followers to conform in your beliefs.

I've seen videos by internet marketing "leaders" where they are lecturing to a group and some have similar classroom techniques as some infamous religious leaders. Examples are treating the adult students like children and trying to create low-level hysteria among the students.

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RogozRazvan

12 years ago

Originally Posted by walterwombat

I'm not a communist - I wouldn't be on this forum if I was. I do believe in freedom of one's mind.

Most leaders are manipulators and most followers are suckers. Throughout history, there have been very few leaders with good intentions. Even the ones who appeared to have good intentions got rich and famous from it. There might be the odd exception.

Most wars are about money and power. The leaders decide to go to war and the young people (often the poorest young people who have nothing to do with the world of money and power) go and fight the war on behalf of the "leaders". That is one example of leaders getting followers to jump off a cliff for their own selfish reasons.

In business, you are told to set yourself up as an authority. So, you can sell. It's a sales technique. I'm not saying it is wrong. However, I am saying it is phoney and it is manipulative. You are not a real authority after reading a few books or posts, when there are others who have spent a lifetime interested in a subject. You present yourself as a leader to make sales.

If you are not a leader or a follower, you keep your independence and keep a free mind. Once you become a follower, you become someone who believes something just because the leader said so. If you are in a group, you might also become subject to the pressures from other followers to conform in your beliefs.

I've seen videos by internet marketing "leaders" where they are lecturing to a group and some have similar classroom techniques as some infamous religious leaders. Examples are treating the adult students like children and trying to create low-level hysteria among the students.

Victim mentality - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Take my word on it. Outgrow it or suffer the consequences. Nobody said that this world is fair. It is what it is. You either learn to play the game or you lose it.

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BigFrank

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by walterwombat

I'm not a communist - I wouldn't be on this forum if I was. I do believe in freedom of one's mind.

Most leaders are manipulators and most followers are suckers. Throughout history, there have been very few leaders with good intentions. Even the ones who appeared to have good intentions got rich and famous from it. There might be the odd exception.

Most wars are about money and power. The leaders decide to go to war and the young people (often the poorest young people who have nothing to do with the world of money and power) go and fight the war on behalf of the "leaders". That is one example of leaders getting followers to jump off a cliff for their own selfish reasons.

In business, you are told to set yourself up as an authority. So, you can sell. It's a sales technique. I'm not saying it is wrong. However, I am saying it is phoney and it is manipulative. You are not a real authority after reading a few books or posts, when there are others who have spent a lifetime interested in a subject. You present yourself as a leader to make sales.

If you are not a leader or a follower, you keep your independence and keep a free mind. Once you become a follower, you become someone who believes something just because the leader said so. If you are in a group, you might also become subject to the pressures from other followers to conform in your beliefs.

I've seen videos by internet marketing "leaders" where they are lecturing to a group and some have similar classroom techniques as some infamous religious leaders. Examples are treating the adult students like children and trying to create low-level hysteria among the students.

You have an extremely simplistic view of the world around you that is steeped in idealism, and while laudable at some humanistic level, will do nothing to help you be successful in life. I'd also be willing to guess that you have never accomplished anything of significance in your life so you choose to downplay the accomplishments of others to deflect from your own insecurity and sense of failure. I've seen such displays all through my life.

I have a mind of my own and I am well past the stage of being able to be manipulated by anyone with any goal. Nor do I have any desire to manipulate others. I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that you are fairly young, with little if any life experience.

The concept that you espouse is unrealistic for the planet as a whole and if adopted by everyone we'd all still be living in caves hiding from sabre-toothed tigers and mastodons.

I have no desire to change your way of thinking but I do think it best that you not demean nor denigrate a way of life that most members of the human race subscribe to that has taken us from being the aforementioned cave dwellers to a species that has sent men to the moon and returned them safely to Earth. It took strong leaders with incredible vision and self-confidence to accomplish that feat and the myriad other accomplishments of the human race throughout history.

If you're not a leader then you are a follower. There is nothing else unless you are a Tibetan monk.

That's just the way the world is, whether you like the system that civilization has put in place, or not. To deny reality is a foolhardy path.

Cheers. - Frank

P.S. Please don't breed. It will have deleterious effects on the human gene pool. :-)

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peterj

12 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

If you're not a leader then you are a follower. There is nothing else unless you are a Tibetan monk.

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Cheers. - Frank

P.S. Please don't breed. It will have deleterious effects on the human gene pool. :-)

Really!.......

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perryny 12 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

That's just the way the world is, whether you like the system that civilization has put in place, or not. To deny reality is a foolhardy path.

Civilization didn't put the system in place. Nature did. Just ask the lions or the gorillas or the ants or the bees.
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Chris30K

12 years ago

Originally Posted by walterwombat

I'm not a communist - I wouldn't be on this forum if I was. I do believe in freedom of one's mind.

Most leaders are manipulators and most followers are suckers. Throughout history, there have been very few leaders with good intentions. Even the ones who appeared to have good intentions got rich and famous from it. There might be the odd exception.

Most wars are about money and power. The leaders decide to go to war and the young people (often the poorest young people who have nothing to do with the world of money and power) go and fight the war on behalf of the "leaders". That is one example of leaders getting followers to jump off a cliff for their own selfish reasons.

In business, you are told to set yourself up as an authority. So, you can sell. It's a sales technique. I'm not saying it is wrong. However, I am saying it is phoney and it is manipulative. You are not a real authority after reading a few books or posts, when there are others who have spent a lifetime interested in a subject. You present yourself as a leader to make sales.

If you are not a leader or a follower, you keep your independence and keep a free mind. Once you become a follower, you become someone who believes something just because the leader said so. If you are in a group, you might also become subject to the pressures from other followers to conform in your beliefs.

I've seen videos by internet marketing "leaders" where they are lecturing to a group and some have similar classroom techniques as some infamous religious leaders. Examples are treating the adult students like children and trying to create low-level hysteria among the students.

Let me guess, you typed this on a Microsoft or Apple platform. I guess Bill Gates and Steve Jobs are phonies delivering this fake product you believe in.

Did you curse the name of Allen Says, the Warrior Forum founder, when you submitted that post?

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12 years ago

learning to count or follow simple instructions

at least two have had to resort to four words

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12 years ago

Good self-leadership first.

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Rick Rodd

12 years ago

Leadership for me is this:

Let Us Go

Let- means permission, an act of command from a leader.
Us-involving yourself in the community
Go-to move forward; to achieve something by turning from a rest point to somewhere else.

Let Us Go! as a whole is a call to action, from a leader who knows how to take part in the community to take them away from the problems they are facing. That is a mark of a true leader.

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Odahh

12 years ago

"Cheers. - Frank

P.S. Please don't breed. It will have deleterious effects on the human gene pool. :-)"

the guy might have a little to much college debt to pay off right now to try breeding.. his kind of thinking is what they teach for 60k a year now ..because college is not about giving people marketable skill.. but forming their minds to think beyond the profit motive ..

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walterwombat

12 years ago

I believe in freedom of speech. When people start making personal remarks, rather than sticking to the discussion points, the discussion has degenerated. I do not discuss anything with anyone on this level. As a result, I will not respond any longer on this thread.

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BigFrank

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by walterwombat

I believe in freedom of speech.

Sure, you do. As long as it's speech you agree with and approve of. lol

I think what you meant to say, is: "Since I am unable to intelligently defend my position and don't have the intestinal fortitude to handle the slightest amount of criticism directed at my concepts and statements, I will blame others as I do most everything else in life and hide my head in the sand."

Cheers. - Frank

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Rick Rodd

12 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

Sure, you do. As long as it's speech you agree with and approve of. lol

I think what you meant to say, is: "Since I am unable to intelligently defend my position and don't have the intestinal fortitude to handle the slightest amount of criticism directed at my concepts and statements, I will blame others as I do most everything else in life and hide my head in the sand."

Cheers. - Frank

Now that's what you call "leadership by example"

Also, some people forget that "freedom to be silent" is as equally important as freedom of speech.

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BigFrank Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Rick Rodd

Now that's what you call "leadership by example"

Also, some people forget that "freedom to be silent" is as equally important as freedom of speech.

Freedom to be silent if one chooses is a valid concept. That said, if you post on a forum you should be prepared for people to post their honest responses, whether the OP or anyone else agrees with their comments or not.

That's just the way the world works. There's a long-standing historical and scientific term for that concept. 'Tough noogies!'

Cheers. - Frank
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Odahh

12 years ago

Originally Posted by walterwombat

I believe in freedom of speech. When people start making personal remarks, rather than sticking to the discussion points, the discussion has degenerated. I do not discuss anything with anyone on this level. As a result, I will not respond any longer on this thread.

freedom of speech ..I grew up in a country .. that believed in freedom of speech and that people had a right to get wealthy if they worked really hard.. and maybe if they got real lucky ..

that country was the United states .

but now because there are so many people who have no idea to back up and argue and defend the positions they hold.. the country has turned anti freedom of speech ..

omg that person said something racist 15 years ago when what he or she said wasn't so bad.. but now they are a public figure and it came out lets slaughter them in the media .

freedoms do need to be fought for and understood ... you have the freedom to say what you want.. and actually on this forum that is not the case .. but by putting what you say out there .. othere people who believe differently have the freedom to express their different views .

that is what made america america .. but now to many people want to put themselve in bubbles where no one disagrees with what they believe .

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Joe Mobley 12 years ago

Originally Posted by walterwombat

As a result, I will not respond any longer on this thread.

One can only hope.

Those who can not lead and will not follow, invariably obstruct.

(I forget who.)

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Jonathan 2.0

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by MartyLabrado

In three words or less, what does leadership mean to you?

1. Compassion
2. Vision
3. Results

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12 years ago

Influence
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peterj

12 years ago

Follow. Then lead!

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Odahh

12 years ago

all men(and women) may be created equal..but the only time everyone is equal is when everyone is dirt poor ..except for those who are in government who maintain the equality of those not in government

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12 years ago

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Responsible

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