I am having increasingly weird dreams :(

11 years ago

Dreams are your subconscious talking to you. Everything in your dream is an aspect of self. It sounds to me like an inner conflict - you want to move on and something is keeping you from doing so. When this happens in a dream, you must fight and conquer what is holding you. Make an effort to escape or vanquish your rival next time it happens.

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WalkingCarpet

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

Dreams are your subconscious talking to you. Everything in your dream is an aspect of self. It sounds to me like an inner conflict - you want to move on and something is keeping you from doing so. When this happens in a dream, you must fight and conquer what is holding you. Make an effort to escape or vanquish your rival next time it happens.

Yeah its the lack of money holding me back.

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thunderbird

11 years ago

Originally Posted by WalkingCarpet

Yeah its the lack of money holding me back.

Here's a solution: Make lots of money.

Dreams are the byproduct of electrical currents pulsating through the brain to clear away crud. Sure, you can learn stuff from dreams, much like a private investigator getting information about someone by shifting through their garbage.

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Claude Whitacre

11 years ago

Originally Posted by thunderbird

Here's a solution: Make lots of money.

Dreams are the byproduct of electrical currents pulsating through the brain to clear away crud. Sure, you can learn stuff from dreams, much like a private investigator getting information about someone by shifting through their garbage.

That's a pretty good explanation. You may be right.

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BigFrank

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Originally Posted by HeySal

Everything in your dream is an aspect of self.

Come on now. Isn't that statement along the lines of, "Everyone that has tried to talk about the Fed has been killed?"

Much of what we dream is the mind regurgitating thoughts and experiences over decades. It's subconscious projectile diarrhea which contains an occasional semi-solid lump of recognizable content. (No charge for the poetic imagery).

Yes, I did dream that my dog chewed through the Comcast cable last night, which she has done twice already and I worry about constantly. Two nights ago I had a dream that when I removed my socks my feet were hideously discolored, an obvious result of my continuous worry about my diabetes.

That said, the remaining 99% of what I experienced in my dreams those nights was insanely weird and great entertainment, but had absolutely no basis in reality or my 'self.'

Some things actually do mean nothing.

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HeySal

11 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

Come on now. Isn't that statement along the lines of, "Everyone that has tried to talk about the Fed has been killed?"

Much of what we dream is the mind regurgitating thoughts and experiences over decades. It's subconscious projectile diarrhea which contains an occasional semi-solid lump of recognizable content. (No charge for the poetic imagery).

Yes, I did dream that my dog chewed through the Comcast cable last night, which she has done twice already and I worry about constantly. Two nights ago I had a dream that when I removed my socks my feet were hideously discolored, an obvious result of my continuous worry about my diabetes.

That said, the remaining 99% of what I experienced in my dreams those nights was insanely weird and great entertainment, but had absolutely no basis in reality or my 'self.'

Some things actually do mean nothing.

Cheers. - Frank

No it's not the same as saying that.

There's two types of dreaming. REM and non-REM. Non-REM is more of the minds rehash of the day's events, sorting, etc. If you remember a non-REM dream, you'll recognize instantly how it follows normal and most likely, recent, events in the real world. REM sleep takes us deep into our subconscious and can be very whacked. One thing that is true of both is that they are centered on the self. The mind has shut out physical and social stimulus and is focused inward instead of outward.

When I say everything in the dream is self, what I mean is characters in the dream are being projected from your own mind - they aren't the same as dealing with someone who walks into a room - they are manufactured in your head and your mind has them playing a role. This role can be as simple as saying hi to a brother as you walk in the door of a house that you would expect to see him in during waking life to very deep psychological issues that the character is acting out.

Whatever the character does, is of your own making. Some societies are very dream based. They talk about their dreams around the breakfast table, they teach children how to analyze their dream experiences, and how to deal with them. I use the Somoian culture's method of getting rid of nightmares and it works well, especially for recurring nightmares. That method is to face any adversary in a dream and vanquish it. One of my "adversaries" was the almighty elevator, which would plummet when I got in. Sure was glad to get rid of that one!

So, when you dream a character, and put them in a specific role and dialogue -- that's you, not them. It's up to you to figure out why you made the characters act as they did.

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Claude Whitacre

11 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

When I say everything in the dream is self, what I mean is characters in the dream are being projected from your own mind - they aren't the same as dealing with someone who walks into a room - they are manufactured in your head and your mind has them playing a role. This role can be as simple as saying hi to a brother as you walk in the door of a house that you would expect to see him in during waking life to very deep psychological issues that the character is acting out.

Yup.

I remember all my dreams. At least when I first wake up. It fascinates me that I can surprise myself in a dream. For example, another person, in the dream can say something that catches me by surprise.....but I created that person, and everything they say.

By the way, if your new Avatar is your photo.....I'm pleasantly surprised.

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HeySal

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

Yup.

I remember all my dreams. At least when I first wake up. It fascinates me that I can surprise myself in a dream. For example, another person, in the dream can say something that catches me by surprise.....but I created that person, and everything they say.

By the way, if your new Avatar is your photo.....I'm pleasantly surprised.

That's incredible. I used to be able to remember them all, but lately haven't been, and it bothers me. I hope now the move will bring them back for me. I've headed a few dream groups that you would have been awesome in........other than you don't believe in thought transference.

Yes - that's me (my hair is short but I'm letting it grow again, oops). I'm surprised you never saw it before. I took it down a year or two back, but now that I keep getting called "dude" and getting pm's that make it plain that people think of "Sal" as a guy's name, I thought my pic might be a big hint that people are speaking to a female.

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

That's incredible. I used to be able to remember them all, but lately haven't been, and it bothers me. I hope now the move will bring them back for me. I've headed a few dream groups that you would have been awesome in........other than you don't believe in thought transference.

Yes - that's me (my hair is short but I'm letting it grow again, oops). I'm surprised you never saw it before. I took it down a year or two back, but now that I keep getting called "dude" and getting pm's that make it plain that people think of "Sal" as a guy's name, I thought my pic might be a big hint that people are speaking to a female.

Even your wording, and when you talk about self defense, you are obviously female. MAN, probably over 90% of the sals I have known were female. Apparently, for males, It is short for Salvador or salman, most of the time.

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BigFrank

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

No it's not the same as saying that.

There's two types of dreaming. REM and non-REM. Non-REM is more of the minds rehash of the day's events, sorting, etc. If you remember a non-REM dream, you'll recognize instantly how it follows normal and most likely, recent, events in the real world. REM sleep takes us deep into our subconscious and can be very whacked. One thing that is true of both is that they are centered on the self. The mind has shut out physical and social stimulus and is focused inward instead of outward.

When I say everything in the dream is self, what I mean is characters in the dream are being projected from your own mind - they aren't the same as dealing with someone who walks into a room - they are manufactured in your head and your mind has them playing a role. This role can be as simple as saying hi to a brother as you walk in the door of a house that you would expect to see him in during waking life to very deep psychological issues that the character is acting out.

Whatever the character does, is of your own making. Some societies are very dream based. They talk about their dreams around the breakfast table, they teach children how to analyze their dream experiences, and how to deal with them. I use the Somoian culture's method of getting rid of nightmares and it works well, especially for recurring nightmares. That method is to face any adversary in a dream and vanquish it. One of my "adversaries" was the almighty elevator, which would plummet when I got in. Sure was glad to get rid of that one!

I can agree with almost all of that.

So, when you dream a character, and put them in a specific role and dialogue -- that's you, not them. It's up to you to figure out why you made the characters act as they did.

Not that, though. Again, it's just stated in a too declarative fashion. That's just not something that you can know - but only, surmise.

Cheers. - Frank

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WD Mino 11 years ago

Hi Frank,

Sorry that bothers you.
Have a great day
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- BigFrank Banned 11 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by WD Mino
  
  Hi Frank,
  
  Sorry that bothers you.
  Have a great day
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  lol. What you believe does not bother me bother me, per se. What bothers me is what some people are able to post and get away with while I have to make almost all of my post that could be construed as inflammatory, saddled with trepidation. That stinks!
  
  Well, I guess my reputation may precede me. It appears that I'm always guilty until proven innocent. :-)
  
  Cheers. - Frank
  
  P.S. I know - boo-hoo. Woe is me. lol
  
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sbucciarel

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

Some things actually do mean nothing.

Cheers. - Frank

Whhhaaaaat! You mean when I dreamt that Johnny Depp dumped his fiance and had a choice between me and one of my gorgeous daughters, and he chose me ... it meant nothing? Say it isn't so.

PS @WC: I think your dreams, along with your ear picking and throat itching and I'm depressed threads are nothing more than extreme attention seeking.

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BigFrank

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

Whhhaaaaat! You mean when I dreamt that Johnny Depp dumped his fiance and had a choice between me and one of my gorgeous daughters, and he chose me ... it meant nothing? Say it isn't so.

Well, I asked my friend Johnny about that and he said to inform you that what you were experiencing was not dreaming. He said that is more commonly referred to as hallucinating.

Cheers. - Frank

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sbucciarel

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

Well, I asked my friend Johnny about that and he said to inform you that what you were experiencing was not dreaming. He said that is more commonly referred to as hallucinating.

Cheers. - Frank

That's cruel. Really cruel.

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BigFrank Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

That's cruel. Really cruel.

It's a known fact that the babes don't like 'nice guys.' I'm simply trying to improve my odds.

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HeySal

11 years ago

I'm afraid this one is going to go deeper than money. The subconscious communicates with symbolism. The symbolism is usually quite literal, too. Remember the subconscious conveys data that is stored before it has linguistic coding. If you get a run of these dreams it helps to figure out what they are telling you....but it's not a pleasant trip to have a bunch of nightmares.

From the night terrors your dream caused you - I would think that your lack of money is more related to what is wrong in the dream. Your cause and effect, I think is backward on this one. Money would cause some anxiety, but not terror.

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tagiscom 11 years ago

Originally Posted by WalkingCarpet

Yeah its the lack of money holding me back.

Well, as they say, positive feedback spreads as fast as negative!

But putting that aside, this obviously runs deeper than money.

After a B*** screwed me over and almost maxed out my CC, a few months ago, l drove back from the airport, after waiting for hours and clocking up another $60 in parking, l was ready to hit the nearest tree, but didn't!

But eventhough l did a seriously dumb thing, l didn't have any nightmares!

So, one thing l can suggest is to say this,....

LifeSpirit Center, Clearing Prayer, Spiritual Protection, Spiritual Clearing, Three Clap Technique, Defense Agasint Dark Forces

Well the three clap one sounds interesting, but generally say something alone the lines of removing anything negative from the room and imaging white light pushing out anything nasty.

Now, if you believe in this sort of stuff or not, it will help; and will give your subconscious a breather!

I use this trick when l want to make sure the room is clear, and it tends to work well, regardless of your belief system.
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11 years ago

It COULD also be an illness or something taken earlier.

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Tom B

Banned 11 years ago

I think your dreams are telling you to shave your head. I bet they go away once you do that.

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11 years ago

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BigFrank

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by WD Mino

Well,
demons are real. there is only one way to overcome them. No spirituality is going to do it only the blood of Jesus Christ is what they understand. So. I would be before Him Sir. I figured because people are saying this other stuff I would speak the truth. Nothing can overcome a demon than the one who defeated them. ask me how I know this. I am living proof of it.

I also suggest inviting Him into your life and heart because the only way your constant depression is going to end is if you have the one who paid for your life.

No one can tell me He doesn't exist. I in 2013 march almost died of something called ketoacidosis. Which means my blood was battery acid and my body potassium level was 2.2. I no longer have it.

You know what I said when they told me I was dying. I plead the blood of Jesus Christ aginst that. I will live and not die. This is demonic.
They thought I was crazy, I left the hospital. My doctor called me the next morning and explained for 20 minutes why I had to go back to hospital. I am no fool mayube I was not being wise, so I went back, nothing they did worked. I left the hospital monday morning, had to take insulin by injection, potassium pills, ramipril metphormin all sorts of stuff. But, my faith made me well.I live today db free.
I could give many other examples. I no longer take drugs, I was set free not in a church but in my home. He lives and He is the only answer.

I highly suggest you open your heart. it doesn't matter what is believed it only matters what is.

Best,
-WD

Oh, my. Where to begin. lol

I have no problem with anything that anyone believes. My problems lies with the fact that they also believe that they know something that I don't and that if I don't share their belief, I am some poor, misguided soul.

You are free to believe whatever you choose. Just please don't evangelize your beliefs as if they are facts, because you believe them. They are NOT facts.

I don't agree with a single word you said but I would fight to the death for your right to say them - - - just not down here where such posts are supposedly not allowed.

I don't have the right or freedom to refute anything that you have stated, without being banned. Why do I have to listen to your spiel without you being banned?

Cheers. - Frank

P.S. Your not living proof of anything other than you survived your ideal. Neither you, nor anyone else knows the genesis of your recovery, but you would never accept that. We both know that - if nothing else.

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peterj

11 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

Oh, my. Where to begin. lol

I have no problem with anything that anyone believes. My problems lies with the fact that they also believe that they know something that I don't and that if I don't share their belief, I am some poor, misguided soul.

You are free to believe whatever you choose. Just please don't evangelize your beliefs as if they are facts, because you believe them. They are NOT facts.

I don't agree with a single word you said but I would fight to the death for your right to say them - - - just not down here where such posts are supposedly not allowed.

I don't have the right or freedom to refute anything that you have stated, without being banned. Why do I have to listen to your spiel without you being banned?

Cheers. - Frank

P.S. Your not living proof of anything other than you survived your ideal. Neither you, nor anyone else knows the genesis of your recovery, but you would never accept that. We both know that - if nothing else.

Well you started it!

Originally Posted by BigFrank

Come on now. Isn't that statement along the lines of, "Everyone that has tried to talk about the Fed has been killed?"

Much of what we dream is the mind regurgitating thoughts and experiences over decades. It's subconscious projectile diarrhea which contains an occasional semi-solid lump of recognizable content. (No charge for the poetic imagery).

Yes, I did dream that my dog chewed through the Comcast cable last night, which she has done twice already and I worry about constantly. Two nights ago I had a dream that when I removed my socks my feet were hideously discolored, an obvious result of my continuous worry about my diabetes.

That said, the remaining 99% of what I experienced in my dreams those nights was insanely weird and great entertainment, but had absolutely no basis in reality or my 'self.'

Some things actually do mean nothing.

Cheers. - Frank

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BigFrank

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by peterj

Well you started it!

I participated in a discussion. I didn't 'start' anything.

Get your facts straight - and yes, what I just posted in the two sentences above are facts!

Cheers. - Frank

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peterj

11 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

I participated in a discussion. I didn't 'start' anything.

Get your facts straight - and yes, what I just posted in the two sentences above are facts!

Cheers. - Frank

And the difference?

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BigFrank

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by peterj

And the difference?

The difference, since it escapes your intellect is that what I posted is based on common scientific knowledge on the chemical processes of the brain during REM sleep, which is where most dreaming takes place.

The other is based on superstition that cannot be proven in any way shape or form, regardless of the intensity of the believer.

Science can prove you dream. No one can prove there is a God!

You'll forgive me if I believe in science, just like I'll forgive you if you choose to believe in God. You can handle that, correct?

Now - let's leave it here as I'm in rare form today and I'm not looking to get banned over a conversation with someone that I don't know. I have no problem being banned by engaging with some of the people I argue with here, but your comments, so far, have not proven that you are worthy of that outcome, should it befall me.

You'll pardon me if I ignore you going forward, and you have my blessing to do the exact same as it pertains to me. That is of course unless your another one of those that just has to get the last word in.

(This is where you reply, answering that question for everyone. Personally, I already know the answer and I'd bet that everyone else does, also).

Have at it. Observe and learn the power of self-control.

Cheers. - Frank

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MissTerraK

11 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

You'll forgive me if I believe in science, just like I'll forgive you if you choose to believe in God. You can handle that, correct?
Cheers. - Frank

No need to be forgiven for believing in science, Frank. I believe in science and I believe in God and I'm not even a conflicted person.

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BigFrank

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by MissTerraK

No need to be forgiven for believing in science, Frank. I believe in science and I believe in God and I'm not even a conflicted person.

Terra

Well, honestly - I'm extremely conflicted. Oftentimes, after peering into a mirror, I am forced to question the existence of a God.

I'll leave you alone now to contemplate precisely what I meant by that. lol

Cheers. - Frank

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

Well, honestly - I'm extremely conflicted. Oftentimes, after peering into a mirror, I am forced to question the existence of a God.

I'll leave you alone now to contemplate precisely what I meant by that. lol

Cheers. - Frank

As in, "Why, O'Lord, have You forsaken me and cast this visage upon me?"

(Yes, my vision of God is Irish.)

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BigFrank

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Originally Posted by Dan Riffle

As in, "Why, O'Lord, have You forsaken me and cast this visage upon me?"

(Yes, my vision of God is Irish.)

Actually, more like, "Father I know that you said that I would be able to carry the burden of the world's ills on my shoulders, but you never mentioned Riffle."

Cheers. - Frank

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Dan Riffle

11 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

Actually, more like, "Father I know that you said that I would be able to carry the burden of the world's ills on my shoulders, but you never mentioned Riffle."

Cheers. - Frank

You know, He never mentions me. And He never sends me thank you notes for birthday presents.

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BigFrank Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan Riffle

You know, He never mentions me. And He never sends me thank you notes for birthday presents.

Well, He told me that's my job also, but I have been slacking-off.

No need to pass that confession, upstairs!

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peterj

11 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

The difference, since it escapes your intellect is that what I posted is based on common scientific knowledge on the chemical processes of the brain during REM sleep, which is where most dreaming takes place.

The other is based on superstition that cannot be proven in any way shape or form, regardless of the intensity of the believer.

Science can prove you dream. No one can prove there is a God!

You'll forgive me if I believe in science, just like I'll forgive you if you choose to believe in God. You can handle that, correct?

Now - let's leave it here as I'm in rare form today and I'm not looking to get banned over a conversation with someone that I don't know. I have no problem being banned by engaging with some of the people I argue with here, but your comments, so far, have not proven that you are worthy of that outcome, should it befall me.

You'll pardon me if I ignore you going forward, and you have my blessing to do the exact same as it pertains to me. That is of course unless your another one of those that just has to get the last word in.

(This is where you reply, answering that question for everyone. Personally, I already know the answer and I'd bet that everyone else does, also).

Have at it. Observe and learn the power of self-control.

Cheers. - Frank

Gordon Bennett Frank, it seems for that post that you are nothing more than a room full of assumptions.

You assume That I disagreed with you. I didn't disagree or agree. Perhaps my comments were a bit to brief for you to comprehend or as per usual you didn;t take the time to think about it.. Let me expand slightly.

WDMino made a post, as many did offering advice based on his opinion, beliefs and experience.

Your retort was to attack those opinions, beliefs and experience. Why the insecurity?

No one can prove there is a God!

Can science prove there isn't?

Now - let's leave it here as I'm in rare form today and I'm not looking to get banned over a conversation with someone that I don't know. I have no problem being banned by engaging with some of the people I argue with here, but your comments, so far, have not proven that you are worthy of that outcome, should it befall me.

You are assuming that you can intimidate me with your assumed intellectual superiority.

(This is where you reply, answering that question for everyone. Personally, I already know the answer and I'd bet that everyone else does, also)

You assume to know what I will do and also to know what others are thinking. My, my. Sigh.

I could go on and on but I prefer brevity.

Go on BIG frank make my day, don't ignore me, get yourself banned.

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Daniel Evans 11 years ago

Originally Posted by peterj

Can science prove there isn't?

A chair cannot speak of the house in which it sits.
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Lucian Lada

11 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

P.S. Your not living proof of anything other than you survived your ideal. Neither you, nor anyone else knows the genesis of your recovery, but you would never accept that. We both know that - if nothing else.

As Chandler from Friends would say: "I think, I think it might have something to do with all those injections and pills the doctor gave him."

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BigFrank

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Originally Posted by Lucian Lada

As Chandler from Friends would say: "I think, I think it might have something to do with all those injections and pills the doctor gave him."

You might want to read that post again. I seriously doubt that medical science would ever be recognized, let alone accepted as a possible contributing fact in relation to his recovery. That simply would not compute.

Cheers. - Frank

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Lucian Lada

11 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

You might want to read that post again. I seriously doubt that medical science would ever be recognized, let alone accepted as a possible contributing fact in relation to his recovery. That simply would not compute.

There are religious people who believe God was the one who played a role in their healing, and there are others, who don't want to discard discard doctors' efforts in their recoveries, who say God worked through doctors to heal them.

In the case of the first group of people, I never understood why, if they're so convinced of God's healing power, even went to a doctor in the first place and didn't stay at home, praying.

In the case of the second group of people, I never understood why God, if He's so powerful, could not have healed them directly.

Anyway, I'm not going to further comment on this because I don't want to get banned. (I wouldn't mind a religious debate, though, but religious discussions are prohibited.)

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MissTerraK 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap

I think your dreams are telling you to shave your head. I bet they go away once you do that.

Hahaha!

That was too funny! I'm glad I had just swallowed my coffee before I read it.

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  Project outwards the positive change you want to see in yourself and it will be mirrowed back. The next person is you.
  
  Do enough of that and you can unveil the Christ consciousness and in a single instance you can uncover everything that is and the foolish mistakes you've made in bondage to your own ego.
  
  Demons thrive mostly in the half dream / half wake realm - a margin on "reality". Black as jet and some have incisors a dentist would be proud of, but easily diminished with right mindedness.
  
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MissTerraK

11 years ago

Originally Posted by WalkingCarpet

Something demonic always appears and holds down my hands.
And I actually wake up screaming.
Never had these before.
Never woken up screaming as long as I can remember.
No joke

Perhaps your subconscious is trying to reach the deepest depths of your mind and bring you to the realization that you really aren't a god. I mean no god could ever be taken down by a demonic force, as they're too powerful for that.

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by WalkingCarpet

Something demonic always appears and holds down my hands.
And I actually wake up screaming.
Never had these before.
Never woken up screaming as long as I can remember.
No joke

I hope I don't insult anyone here, by bringing in actual science.

Most of your brain is inactive while you sleep. It's why ridiculous events in a dream seem perfectly normal.

You dream about demons because you believe in demons, or you remembered stories of demons. The brain can only use what's in it.

Possibly, these dreams are caused by anxiety.

These may be Night Terrors. If you just wake up screaming, it's an evolutionary throwback to when lions would eat us. It's a survival mechanism. Maybe aggravated by anxiety.

This is 2015. There is no need to hang on to medieval superstitions.

Night terror - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I used to dream about demons every night, as a kid. It took decades to get rid of the vestiges of a superstitious upbringing.

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Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

This is 2015. There is no need to hang on to medieval superstitions.

Listen! I'm starting to get very sick of you coming down here and polluting this place with your 'common sense.'

Please - STOP THE INSANITY!!!

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Karen Blundell

11 years ago

stress can bring on nightmares and night terrors, at least for me it has.

There are many ways to de-stress before bed - drink herbal tea, warm milk, eat a banana, have a warm bath - try doing something relaxing before bed - something to take your mind of all your worries

I wish you a peaceful dreamless sleep tonight, WC

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Originally Posted by Karen Blundell

stress can bring on nightmares and night terrors, at least for me it has.

There are many ways to de-stress before bed - drink herbal tea, warm milk, eat a banana, have a warm bath - try doing something relaxing before bed - something to take your mind of all your worries

I wish you a peaceful dreamless sleep tonight, WC

Yeah I have tons of stress and anxiety issues

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11 years ago

Stop trying to decipher what you read in the OT and your night terrors will end.

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap

I think your dreams are telling you to shave your head. I bet they go away once you do that.

Or to get into a pink dress and dance in music video's?

Originally Posted by Daniel Evans

Project outwards the positive change you want to see in yourself and it will be mirrowed back. The next person is you.

Do enough of that and you can unveil the Christ consciousness and in a single instance you can uncover everything that is and the foolish mistakes you've made in bondage to your own ego.

Demons thrive mostly in the half dream / half wake realm - a margin on "reality". Black as jet and some have incisors a dentist would be proud of, but easily diminished with right mindedness.

Hmmm, sounds better than killing of the first person you meet who is called Christ; who will clean up the mess?

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

I hope I don't insult anyone here, by bringing in actual science.

Most of your brain is inactive while you sleep. It's why ridiculous events in a dream seem perfectly normal.

You dream about demons because you believe in demons, or you remembered stories of demons. The brain can only use what's in it.

Possibly, these dreams are caused by anxiety.

These may be Night Terrors. If you just wake up screaming, it's an evolutionary throwback to when lions would eat us. It's a survival mechanism. Maybe aggravated by anxiety.

This is 2015. There is no need to hang on to medieval superstitions.

I used to dream about demons every night, as a kid. It took decades to get rid of the vestiges of a superstitious upbringing.

I agree the demons are the last thing on your list, but do possessions of human body's take place, or course!

I tried channeling, a while ago, and there are obvious physical and mental changes that take place, which cannot be attributed to self delusion.

And an interesting experience, which should only be done in a safe room, (best to research that one, l don't want to go into it too much).

Or a group of individuals!

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The demon is as real as the ego in the sense that the ego is the demon.

Both a falsehood and product of wrong-mindedness.

Originally Posted by tagiscom

Hmmm, sounds better than killing of the first person you meet who is called Christ; who will clean up the mess?

Not sure Shane.

There are many "Christs" that predated Jesus if that's who you were referring to....

It's an assigned title for a messiah.
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11 years ago

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11 years ago

Was the demon bald and fat and eating doughnuts while peddling vacuums? Mine always is.

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Was the demon bald and fat and eating doughnuts while peddling vacuums? Mine always is.

You cannot bring yourself to speak his name. He who shall remain nameless for fear of unleashing his demonic sarcasm. You will know when he is upon you, a tremendous unseen weight bearing down on your shoulders and the smell of pizza, garlic and cheap dollar-store aftershave permeating the air in disgusting combination.

To protect yourself, seek the person known as Ricardo Van Helsing who will furnish you with His Wibble Bark Magic potion.

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by lanfear63

To protect yourself, seek the person known as Ricardo Van who will furnish you with His Wibble Bark Magic potion.

Until then, the best way Kurt can protect himself is to line all the entry ways to his home with crushed Lipitor and wear a necklace made entirely of fresh vegetables.

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan Riffle

Until then, the best way Kurt can protect himself is to line all the entry ways to his home with crushed Lipitor and wear a necklace made entirely of fresh vegetables.

A bit long winded. He should just hang a sign over his door saying Health Foods.

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan Riffle

Until then, the best way Kurt can protect himself is to line all the entry ways to his home with crushed Lipitor and wear a necklace made entirely of fresh vegetables.

Good for a full one minute belly laugh. Thanks.

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

Good for a full one minute belly laugh. Thanks.

Considering the belly, no wonder it registered an 8.1 on the richter scale....and speaking of scale, have you thought about hopping on one once in a while?

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Originally Posted by Kurt

Considering the belly, no wonder it registered an 8.1 on the richter scale....and speaking of scale, have you thought about hopping on one once in a while?

The last time he did that it was one of those newfangled talking scales and it cried out, "YO! One at a time, PLEASE!!!"

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Considering the belly, no wonder it registered an 8.1 on the richter scale....and speaking of scale, have you thought about hopping on one once in a while?

I thought of the "Breaking news, earthquake detected in Ohio" one but rejected it as being too easy.

Hopping on scales, he tried that once but kept falling off.

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by Daniel Evans

The demon is as real as the ego in the sense that the ego is the demon.

Both a falsehood and product of wrong-mindedness.

Not sure Shane.

There are many "Christs" that predated Jesus if that's who you were referring to....

It's an assigned title for a messiah.

NO, when he started talking about Jesus and blood spilling, l thought, this could get messy!
I know risky joke, but worth a shot?

Originally Posted by BigFrank

The difference, since it escapes your intellect is that what I posted is based on common scientific knowledge on the chemical processes of the brain during REM sleep, which is where most dreaming takes place.

The other is based on superstition that cannot be proven in any way shape or form, regardless of the intensity of the believer.

Science can prove you dream. No one can prove there is a God!

Cheers. - Frank

Groan here we go,...that is the trouble with all of this new age stuff, (or old age, something age) is personally if l were a scientist, l can and have conclusively proven that most new age stuff is genuine.

But can l prove it to a determined skeptic, in time, in person l believe so, but it would take a while; on this forum, probably not!

But l also agree that ramming the point home, probably isn't the best way to resolve this, believers have their beliefs, and skeptics have their dil.....ahem, theirs!

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by lanfear63

You cannot bring yourself to speak his name. He who shall remain nameless for fear of unleashing his demonic sarcasm. You will know when he is upon you, a tremendous unseen weight bearing down on your shoulders and the smell of pizza, garlic and cheap dollar-store aftershave permeating the air in disgusting combination.

To protect yourself, seek the person known as Ricardo Van Helsing who will furnish you with His Wibble Bark Magic potion.

Sadly, he can't stop speaking his own name, using it in the third person.

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Was the demon bald and fat and eating doughnuts while peddling vacuums? Mine always is.

It doesn't bother me that you said this. But way..way too many people thought it was funny. And I'm a sensitive soul.

And the flaw in your post, is the word peddling. I never exercise.

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

It doesn't bother me that you said this. But way..way too many people thought it was funny. And I'm a sensitive soul.

And the flaw in your post, is the word peddling. I never exercise.

Three weeks for a response? The next time you order a comeback response on Fiverr you may want to splurge and get the express gig.

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11 years ago

Sal,

I'd have thought "the nature lady" would have offered sufficient clue...

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Dan Riffle 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Sal,

I'd have thought "the nature lady" would have offered sufficient clue...

Paul

Paul, that's very gender-centric of you and highly offensive to Claudette.
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  Riffle wants to call me Claudette. It sounds better to him than, "I carry a photo of a beautiful sensuous nude man in bubble wrap, which I bought him.... named Claude".
  
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Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Sal,

I'd have thought "the nature lady" would have offered sufficient clue...

Paul

Ya think? Now that you said that, I just realized that I don't really read those lines usually myself. Bet I pay more attention to them now.
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toysoldier80 11 years ago

My sister, who is a psychologist advised me that every night we have dreams. Lots of dreams. Many of those dreams hit our subconscious but are never remembered. The dreams we do remember is our body, mind, or whatever you would like to call it, sending us a message no matter how outrageous they may be. Sometimes these dreams should be interpreted in a manor that is serious and should not be taken likely.
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11 years ago

Originally Posted by thunderbird

Here's a solution: Make lots of money.

Dreams are the byproduct of electrical currents pulsating through the brain to clear away crud. Sure, you can learn stuff from dreams, much like a private investigator getting information about someone by shifting through their garbage.

That's a pretty good explanation. You may be right.

Of course there's neural functioning during dreams but that's not all they are. The cognitive processes that run during dreaming aren't that much different from cognition during daydreaming. They are purely subconscious cognition, and you don't actually "learn" anything from them other than possibly discovering some of your own "issues". They are thought minus any conscious or sensory input.

They do however, sort actual daytime experience out some.

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

Of course there's neural functioning during dreams but that's not all they are. The cognitive processes that run during dreaming aren't that much different from cognition during daydreaming. They are purely subconscious cognition, and you don't actually "learn" anything from them other than possibly discovering some of your own "issues". They are thought minus any conscious or sensory input.

They do however, sort actual daytime experience out some.

This thread is a bit like deja vu all over again. Didn't we already once have this conversation?

The mind does seem to be quite active during dreams, considering that we can be proactive when they're taking place. In one dream, I got into a cage fight with a half-man-half-bird creature and I was definitely mentally engaged in winning that fight (then woke up like, "WTF?")

A number of great novels such as Frankenstein and Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde were inspired by dreams. Even scientific discoveries such as Double Helix structure of DNA were initially inspired by dreams

I once had a dream that worms were crawling out of my skin and, freaked out, got myself tested, and it turned out I literally had parasitical worms in my system. Medication (bloody expensive) got rid of them in quick order.

Still, research does indicate increased electrical activity during dream state, consistent with getting rid of superfluous sensory input and whatnot (sort of mini-electroshock therapy?).

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by thunderbird

This thread is a bit like deja vu all over again. Didn't we already once have this conversation?

The mind does seem to be quite active during dreams, considering that we can be proactive when they're taking place. In one dream, I got into a cage fight with a half-man-half-bird creature and I was definitely mentally engaged in winning that fight (then woke up like, "WTF?")

A number of great novels such as Frankenstein and Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde were inspired by dreams. Even scientific discoveries such as Double Helix structure of DNA were initially inspired by dreams

I once had a dream that worms were crawling out of my skin and, freaked out, got myself tested, and it turned out I literally had parasitical worms in my system. Medication (bloody expensive) got rid of them in quick order.

Still, research does indicate increased electrical activity during dream state, consistent with getting rid of superfluous sensory input and whatnot (sort of mini-electroshock therapy?).

Yeah, we've talked dreams a few times. I've headed a few dream groups from here a few times, too.

I've always found it interesting that the conscious mind can be engaged and invade the sleeping mind. They have scientific evidence now that proves lucid dreaming is a real ability and not just superstitious hocus pocus. I didn't need to read that to know it. Lucid dreaming is how I got rid of my falling elevator dreams.

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

The last time he did that it was one of those newfangled talking scales and it cried out, "YO! One at a time, PLEASE!!!"

Cheers. - Frank

Originally Posted by lanfear63

I thought of the "Breaking news, earthquake detected in Ohio" one but rejected it as being too easy.

Hopping on scales, he tried that once but kept falling off.

Claude was thrilled the last time he hopped on a scale and it read 180 lbs...until he realized the dial had made 2 complete spins first.

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Originally Posted by Kurt

Claude was thrilled the last time he hopped on a scale and it read 180 lbs...until he realized the dial had made 2 complete spins first.

Kurt, you really need to learn how to become a kinder, gentler soul. You would do well to emulate my techniques in dealing with others and the best way to treat them. An additional benefit would be the increased number of friends you would make along the way. I'm here to help you, in any way that I can.

PM me for my rates.

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Originally Posted by BigFrank

Kurt, you really need to learn how to become a kinder, gentler soul. You would do well to emulate my techniques in dealing with others and the best way to treat them. An additional benefit would be the increased number of friends you would make along the way. I'm here to help you, in any way that I can.

PM me for my rates.

Cheers. - Frank

But I don't want to be friends with Claude. Please don't make me!!!

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Last night I had a dream I was a hamster baking a cake.
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But I don't want to be friends with Claude. Please don't make me!!!

No problemo. How to get rid of him, forever is included in my up-sell.

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I'm glad, WC - I was thinking that you might have dreamed of bobble-heads that looked like one of us last night after reading this whole thread -
that would have made me wake up screaming for sure.
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Originally Posted by WalkingCarpet

Well no dreams last night

Have you ever had a dream in which you put on a shirt? That'd certainly have you waking up in a screaming frenzy.
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MissTerraK

11 years ago

Originally Posted by WalkingCarpet

Well no dreams last night

That's awesome, WC!

Did you do anything to help overcome them, or was it pure happenstance?

Oh, and why are you showing us your armpit?

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Originally Posted by MissTerraK

That's awesome, WC!

Did you do anything to help overcome them, or was it pure happenstance?

Oh, and why are you showing us your armpit?

Terra

Just drank a lot of milk.
Armpit? Ain't that better than a bald head???

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by WalkingCarpet

Just drank a lot of milk.
Armpit? Ain't that better than a bald head???

Um, actually no. I'm pretty sure a bald head and an armpit differ greatly in the aroma department, lol!

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by MissTerraK

Um, actually no. I'm pretty sure a bald head and an armpit differ greatly in the aroma department, lol!

Terra

But, how do you know for sure? Have you sniffed Claude's head and WalkingCarpet's armpit to make a comparison?

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MissTerraK

11 years ago

Originally Posted by thunderbird

But, how do you know for sure? Have you sniffed Claude's head and WalkingCarpet's armpit to make a comparison?

Ewwww, TB!

They wish!

I've neither been around Claude's head nor WC's armpit, however having worked in the medical field for all of those years, I've been around a lot of men's bald heads and armpits and the armpits pits won in the stinky arena every time. Hands down.

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Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by MissTerraK

Ewwww, TB!

They wish!

I've neither been around Claude's head nor WC's armpit, however having worked in the medical field for all of those years, I've been around a lot of men's bald heads and armpits and the armpits pits won in the stinky arena every time. Hands down.

Terra

But but....

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thunderbird 11 years ago

Originally Posted by MissTerraK

Ewwww, TB!

They wish!

I've neither been around Claude's head nor WC's armpit...<snip>

If you didn't have a sense of humor, I wouldn't have dared write that, LOL.
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thunderbird 11 years ago

Originally Posted by MissTerraK

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Oh, and why are you showing us your armpit?

Terra

Defiance? You see, Claude advised him to wear a shirt.
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Claude Whitacre 11 years ago

Originally Posted by WalkingCarpet

Well no dreams last night

You did have a dream. You're still in it.

You think people like us are real?
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daysofdigital

11 years ago

Is it still going on or has it stopped now?

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Leriqs

11 years ago

My question would be "have you been sleeping with my girlfriend" LOL. Seriously though this is the hag syndrome and is well known throughout history. I had it once, I felt like something was sitting on my chest when I woke up one night.

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DougBarger

11 years ago

I had a dream whoever deleted the cipher I posted was in a tragic automobile accident. I tried everything to save him, but apparently he persisted in continuing to drive in the direction that only leads to his destruction.

Thank goodness it's all just a dream.

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by DougBarger

I had a dream whoever deleted the cipher I posted was in a tragic automobile accident. I tried everything to save him, but apparently he persisted in continuing to drive in the direction that only leads to his destruction.

Thank goodness it's all just a dream.

Hey Doug, long time, no see. UM...............

Careful dreamboat - this form of allegory here in the OT can often result in Shipwreck.

This might be "downstairs" -- but it's still a few steps up.

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tagiscom 11 years ago

Originally Posted by WalkingCarpet

Well no dreams last night

Well check for a pulse first, then if you are zombie free, then we will believe you!

Originally Posted by WalkingCarpet

I burnt all my shirts.

Explains why you can't get a job? Apart from the music video dancing gig!

Originally Posted by WalkingCarpet

Just drank a lot of milk.
Armpit? Ain't that better than a bald head???

Good, milk and cocaine don't mix!
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WD Mino

11 years ago

That was an awesome post Bro.
All good I deciphered it

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Raydal

11 years ago

Sometimes it's as simple as what you eat before bedtime.

I find that if I DON'T eat at least 6 hours before bedtime, then
my dreams are happier and I have less dreams. Maybe you
are going to sleep with a full stomach.

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WalkingCarpet

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Raydal

Sometimes it's as simple as what you eat before bedtime.

I find that if I DON'T eat at least 6 hours before bedtime, then
my dreams are happier and I have less dreams. Maybe you
are going to sleep with a full stomach.

-Ray Edwards

I am always eating, so its impossible for me to not go to bed on a full stomach.

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Kay King

11 years ago

In that case, I suggest you do some nutritional research so that before bedtime you try to eat foods that are not stimulative.

My guess is foods that are easiest to digest would be least likely to inhibit sleep but I'm not a nutritionist.

You like to talk about workout and muscles - and clearly like to be on display (no shirt) - so research and learn something about how nutrition can affect sleep patterns. It's part of being physically fit and healthy.

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Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

In that case, I suggest you do some nutritional research so that before bedtime you try to eat foods that are not stimulative.

My guess is foods that are easiest to digest would be least likely to inhibit sleep but I'm not a nutritionist.

You like to talk about workout and muscles - and clearly like to be on display (no shirt) - so research and learn something about how nutrition can affect sleep patterns. It's part of being physically fit and healthy.

My staples are chicken breast, egg whites, milk. Don't drink coffee or tea.

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by WalkingCarpet

My staples are chicken breast, egg whites, milk. Don't drink coffee or tea.

You're probably getting too little minerals and other nutrients. Protein isn't everything. Eat a piece of fruit, a carrot once in a while.

I have no idea if it will help with the bad dreams, but it will make you feel better.

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Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

You're probably getting too little minerals and other nutrients. Protein isn't everything. Eat a piece of fruit, a carrot once in a while.

I have no idea if it will help with the bad dreams, but it will make you feel better.

Yeah I eat fruit, ice cream, oatmeal etc as well. Rice, pasta, bread.
But those 3 are my bread and butter.

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Kay King 11 years ago

My staples are chicken breast, egg whites, milk.

Skip the protein and high sugar fruit for 3 hrs or more before sleep - if hungry, eat carbs like bread/bagel/toast or a big bowl of green salad.

If sleep is a real problem - make changes and do something about it.
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Claude Whitacre 11 years ago

Originally Posted by WalkingCarpet

Yeah I eat fruit, ice cream, oatmeal etc as well. Rice, pasta, bread.
But those 3 are my bread and butter.

Chicken breast, egg whites, milk...are your bread and butter?
I found your problem. You don't know what what the names of different foods are.
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HeySal 11 years ago

Originally Posted by WalkingCarpet

My staples are chicken breast, egg whites, milk. Don't drink coffee or tea.

I always eat before bed. I actually lose weight if I don't - and I can't afford to lose weight. I frequently have strange dreams, but rarely a nightmare, and I haven't been able to connect any particular foods to bad dreams. Some people swear that food can cause bad dreams, but I've never heard anyone say so who can pin down exactly which foods they eat that they consistently have bad dreams after eating.

I was on the phone with Terra for several hours after my last bad dream - and it was bizarre but it had her in it so I called her. After some conversation it was revealed that the setting of the dream was her pole barn, which I'd not any real idea of the layout of until the conversation. My dream was quite accurate. She also found out later that there is actually a swamp where I described it to be. Her husband and she were discussing a particular subject about that place right while I was dreaming the same subject about it, albeit, my dream was a bit more drastic (to say the least).

In other words - sometimes bizarre in your sleep can be bizarre after you wake up, too. When it comes to dreams - we can only suggest. There are no conclusive answers - not from scientific research nor from superstition or metaphysics. Dreams are whacked. Period.
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  A bit more drastic? LMAO! Indubitably!
  
  That is an apt description of dreams, whack! And yet sometimes they are prophetic, prolific, and productive too. The most important thing though is that you need the wisdom to know which is which.
  
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BigFrank Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by WalkingCarpet

I am always eating, so its impossible for me to not go to bed on a full stomach.

As long as you maintain the word 'impossible' as part of your psychological vocabulary, you will never achieve your goals in life. Nothing is impossible if you put your mind to it. Especially something as easily remedied as not eating before bed. Don't be a loser. Get with the program and take charge of your life. :-)

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DougBarger

11 years ago

So checking in with a recent crazy dream.

I was on a motorcycle driving fast through one of those baseball parks that are made for league play.

There were about three fields altogether and I was driving on the road in between them headed somewhere fast.

People didn't really seem to mind, but I noticed a few looked at me curiously.

Suddenly I had this drive to get out of there as fast as I could, so I accelerated as fast as it would go.

I parked and jumped off the bike and entered a building.

I walked quickly (so as not to call any attention to myself).

For some reason, I didn't want the people in there to notice me,
so I walked as fast as I could past them all.

Once I got to the door, I flung it open and started to run down the stairs.

Now here's where it gets dark.

Literally.

It's one of those winding staircases from centuries past.

Everything is dark brown, rusted and darkness winding down and down.

I sense I'm being chased by the people still on the other side of the door. They have evil intentions.

So I have to start running down the stairs.

But what if I fall? There was nothing but a bottomless darkness in the middle of the stairs that winded around and down and down.

I couldn't see the bottom of the stairs either. I could see a few hundred feet down, but then it was all just darkness.

I didn't want to start running down the stairs for a couple of reasons.

First, if I slipped or fell, I could fall into the black hole of never-ending darkness.

The other reason was, I didn't know if I somehow eventually got to the bottom, if there was even a door or other way out, or if I'd be stuck down there after hours spent reaching it.

But I had to make some kind of choice.

I could feel the anxiety pulsing through my veins as my heart rate accelerated even faster
than the bike could go earlier.

So I start running down the stairs and after a couple of minutes I stop and then run back up to the top,
near the door again where I started, still in the same dilemma.

But this time, whoever was chasing me was right at the door and about to open it.

I had to do whatever I was going to do right now.

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HeySal

11 years ago

Doug - I take it that the dream ends there?

Not sure if you consider that a nightmare or not. In mine, someone usually dies - often brutally.

So - what is it that you are making decisions about that you feel might be real bad news if you make the wrong one? What about the decision scares you so bad?

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DougBarger 11 years ago

Brilliant interpretation Sal. Thanks for that.

I had indeed come to the proverbial fork in the road.

Yes, the dream ended right there.

And you know, the dark wasn't just dark, it was dark and menacing if that makes any sense.

I think if I could have seen to the bottom it wouldn't have been so bad or at least known what would have come next?

You're right on with the interpretation.

Thanks for that.

Yeah, I hate it when I have dreams that loved ones die, but I guess it makes me appreciate the ones who are still living all the more.
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11 years ago

Originally Posted by WalkingCarpet

Something demonic always appears and holds down my hands.
And I actually wake up screaming.
Never had these before.
Never woken up screaming as long as I can remember.
No joke

You think your Demon is bad, try summoning Chronozon from the Goetia via ceremonial evocation/invocation, or some of the Enochian Angels.

93 93/93

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positivenegative 11 years ago

Originally Posted by alex93

You think your Demon is bad, try summoning Chronozon from the Goetia via ceremonial evocation/invocation, or some of the Enochian Angels.

93 93/93
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Originally Posted by alex93

You think your Demon is bad, try summoning Chronozon from the Goetia via ceremonial evocation/invocation, or some of the Enochian Angels.

93 93/93

Alex? Is that AlexR that we lost in the basement years back? Judging from your response here, I'm thinking you survived the beer vat swimming down there.
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  Alex? Is that AlexR that we lost in the basement years back? Judging from your response here, I'm thinking you survived the beer vat swimming down there.
  
  Na... must be a different Alex, I used to hang on the Myspace Occult forums when it used to be hip, back in the day, the Enochian Magick forums, I.O.T forums (not public), Thelema, Golden Dawn (not public), used to get about quite a bit.
  
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Originally Posted by alex93

You think your Demon is bad, try summoning Chronozon from the Goetia via ceremonial evocation/invocation, or some of the Enochian Angels.

93 93/93

I used to do that a lot until I realized it was a lot quicker just to call Claude on the phone.
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  I used to do that a lot until I realized it was a lot quicker just to call Claude on the phone.
  
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MaelPadil

11 years ago

Originally Posted by WalkingCarpet

Something demonic always appears and holds down my hands.
And I actually wake up screaming.
Never had these before.
Never woken up screaming as long as I can remember.
No joke

its just a dream dude,nothing to take seriuos. Maybe you should take a litlle massage on your foot..thats can make your sleep more relaxed

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11 years ago

Your dreams are all about processing. Only you will be able to interpret them. Pay attention to how it makes you feel , what emotions do you feel when you think of the dream. Perhaps you are feeling your hands are tied in life at the moment or there is something you cannot touch or feel as if you have no control over what you are touching in life on a regular basis.Like I said only you will know what it means.....dreams are processing our emotions and thoughts that we may not be processing in our day. If there is not an affect from it , don't worry too much...sometimes you need to process it in your dreams and that is enough . Be beautiful.....Jennifer

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by JenniferGiacoppo

Your dreams are all about processing. Only you will be able to interpret them. Pay attention to how it makes you feel , what emotions do you feel when you think of the dream. Perhaps you are feeling your hands are tied in life at the moment or there is something you cannot touch or feel as if you have no control over what you are touching in life on a regular basis.Like I said only you will know what it means.....dreams are processing our emotions and thoughts that we may not be processing in our day. If there is not an affect from it , don't worry too much...sometimes you need to process it in your dreams and that is enough . Be beautiful.....Jennifer

Hi Jennifer,

I had a dream last night that I had a pet elephant, only thing is, it was made of jelly. At one point it became my Aunt Delia before becoming my dog. During all this there was a strange lady with me whose hair was made out of that spaghetti you get in a can, the stuff that's covered in tomato sauce, it was literally dripping off her head. When I woke up I was really hungry.

Does that mean I was unconsciously concerned I should have eaten that last pea before I finished dinner?

I seem to remember feeling a sense of loneliness for it as my plate was taken away and the pea was left on it's own. It seemed to be looking back at me with a sad face.

Where did the elephant come from though?

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Kay King

11 years ago

Does that mean I was unconsciously concerned I should have eaten that last pea before I finished dinner?

No dear - it means you shouldn't have eaten the four brownies just before going to sleep.

Think back at the more boring conversations you've had in your life - I'll bet many of them involved you trying to look interested as someone else described (in agonizing detail) their dream....

If your dreams are increasingly weird - you might want to look closely at your 'awake' life to see if it's headed the same direction.

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Originally Posted by Kay King

If your dreams are increasingly weird - you might want to look closely at your 'awake' life to see if it's headed the same direction.

Or skip the leftover anchovy and garlic pizza at 10 PM. Just a thought.

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Richard Van

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

No dear - it means you shouldn't have eaten the four brownies just before going to sleep.

Think back at the more boring conversations you've had in your life - I'll bet many of them involved you trying to look interested as someone else described (in agonizing detail) their dream....

If your dreams are increasingly weird - you might want to look closely at your 'awake' life to see if it's headed the same direction.

Yes, those brownies do bring on the funny dreams.

In fairness I don't actually remember my dreams that often though I do have those funny bits where people become other people and I did once dream that an ex girlfriend had spaghetti head. I remember that well because in the dream it was totally normal, I didn't bat an eye lid. When I woke up at about 3 in the morning I spent the next 10 minutes laughing.

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by WalkingCarpet

Something demonic always appears and holds down my hands.
And I actually wake up screaming.
Never had these before.
Never woken up screaming as long as I can remember.
No joke

Sounds like you want to go watch 50 shades of grey, just saying

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pcalvert

11 years ago

Originally Posted by WalkingCarpet

Something demonic always appears and holds down my hands.
And I actually wake up screaming.
Never had these before.
Never woken up screaming as long as I can remember.
No joke

In dreams such as these, I've found that reciting the Lord's Prayer is an effective response. Typically, I will wake up before I can finish saying the prayer. Reciting a short, Buddhist prayer (mantra) over and over has also worked.

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by pcalvert

In dreams such as these, I've found that reciting the Lord's Prayer is an effective response. Typically, I will wake up before I can finish saying the prayer. Reciting a short, Buddhist prayer (mantra) over and over has also worked.

Just one question.

How do you manage to take a sticky with you into your dream/nightmare to remind you to do that?

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