What Does It Mean To Be A Man?

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Thought I would post this for the younger guys with us:

For me it would be: "To do the right thing no matter what."

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    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
      Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

      Damn, and l thought that this thread was going to be about Claude,.............l am shattered!
      Lol. Awe. My condolences
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    Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

    Thought I would post this for the younger guys with us:

    For me it would be: "To do the right thing no matter what."

    2C
    what does doing the right thing have to do with being a man ? surley that would apply to one and all regardless of sex and would be basic knowledge for most ?

    some bored people here
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    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
      Originally Posted by tryinhere View Post

      what does doing the right thing have to do with being a man ? surley that would apply to one and all regardless of sex and would be basic knowledge for most ?
      Good point. What would be your advice for being a Man be?? Please share.

      some bored people here:
      (Lol.) I'm about ready to snooze off.
      : )
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    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
      To put it into context (kind of) ... Many Men cheat on their Partners/Wives/etc. with other women ... And that's not the right thing to do. There are more examples however we'll leave it there for now.
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      • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
        Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

        To put it into context (kind of) ... Many Men cheat on their Partners/Wives/etc. with other women ... And that's not the right thing to do. There are more examples however we'll leave it there for now.
        yes mate you need to go to bed because your talking crap now ? Many Men ? farked up comment that is, what will we do next.
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        • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
          Originally Posted by tryinhere View Post

          yes mate you need to go to bed because your talking crap now ? Many Men ? farked up comment that is, what will we do next.
          Well I appreciate the advice. Thanks. : )
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    The right thing is highly subjective and realative to the society and time .

    You can read too much into what it means to be a man .that is just stating gender .that is why other descriptive words like honest our hard working reliable .
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    It's mean you born with it. Man or Woman, there are is only 2 genders.
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    • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
      Originally Posted by waitingforday View Post

      Man or Woman, there are is only 2 genders.
      Where does Claude fit in?
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    Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

    I find I fit in women better. Unless the man is turned around.
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  • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
    Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

    Thought I would post this for the younger guys with us:

    For me it would be: "To do the right thing no matter what."

    2C
    What does it mean to be a man?

    I've never asked myself that question. It's just not how I think.

    But...what's it mean to be a good person? Still not how I think.

    But...what's the best way to get through life? To be kind to everyone. To treat people fairly, even when you aren't getting what you want. Once you accept that as an unbreakable rule, decisions become easier and life becomes easier.

    What's a guaranteed prescription for misery? Blame others for your setbacks and problems. This guarantees that your life will never improve, and you'll never be happy (whatever that is).
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    • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

      What does it mean to be a man?

      I've never asked myself that question. It's just not how I think.

      But...what's it mean to be a good person? Still not how I think.

      But...what's the best way to get through life? To be kind to everyone. To treat people fairly, even when you aren't getting what you want. Once you accept that as an unbreakable rule, decisions become easier and life becomes easier.

      What's a guaranteed prescription for misery? Blame others for your setbacks and problems. This guarantees that your life will never improve, and you'll never be happy (whatever that is).
      "What's a guaranteed prescription for misery? Blame others for your setbacks and problems. This guarantees that your life will never improve, and you'll never be happy (whatever that is)."

      Yep, it's all your fault.
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      • Profile picture of the author Odahh
        Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

        "What's a guaranteed prescription for misery? Blame others for your setbacks and problems. This guarantees that your life will never improve, and you'll never be happy (whatever that is)."

        Yep, it's all your fault.
        The question i have . Is why can anyone who has the least bit understand of marketing . Write either of these statements.

        Yeah ignore the amount of money put in to marketing processed food and the science in nvolvoled in makeing it addictive

        Then tell people they are fat totally and completely because they have no we self control or w I'll llpower
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

          The question i have . Is why can anyone who has the least bit understand of marketing . Write either of these statements.

          Yeah ignore the amount of money put in to marketing processed food and the science in nvolvoled in making it addictive

          Then tell people they are fat totally and completely because they have no we self control or w I'll llpower
          Completely different subjects.

          I'm talking about myself here. I always take complete responsibility for everything that happens to me, or what I do. Why? Because it's the only way to control what happens to me.

          For example, I weigh about 270 pounds. Some is muscle, but a lot is fat.

          And recently, a relative told me "Well, your mother was heavy. It's your genes".

          I said "No. I'm overweight because I eat four times what a normal person eats. That's why I'm fat. If I wanted to weigh less, I'd eat less".

          The truth is, I do put on weight easily...and yes, most all my relatives (on my Mom's side) are fat. But if I ever say "Well you know...everyone in my family is fat. It's our genes"...that takes away any control I have....it makes me a victim.

          Frankly, about 95% of the people in the world...think of themselves as the victim. They want other people (politicians mostly) to fix the entire world, so it makes them happier with their life. Every other thought begins with "They should..." But...what if "They" don't?

          They see themselves as a victim, their small social group as a victim, their religion as a victim, their nationality as a victim, and so on. They want the world to adapt to them, rather than adapting to the world.

          Maybe a few of these things are true to varying degrees. But if you allow yourself to see yourself as a victim, you are powerless. You have given away control of your life. You have lost. In fact, the only way to improve your lot in life is to assume that you are always the one to blame, the one that is responsible, the one that must take your own action.


          Sure food is addictive. Sure drugs are addictive. Sure marketing makes us spend our money foolishly.

          But not everyone is a drug addict, not everyone plays the lottery every day. Not everyone eats until they are sick. But we all see the same ads, the same marketing. How are these people different? They aren't, they just haven't given up control.

          My earlier posts were just my personal observations and my own experience.

          As far as what others do with their lives? I have no control over that.

          I don't blame them for whatever happens in their lives. If they weight 350 pounds, I don't have to blame them. And I don't look down on them (any more than the way I fell about everyone).

          But I don't have to be like them.
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          • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            I'm talking about myself here.
            Quelle surprise.
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              Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

              Quelle surprise.
              Quelle honte.
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              • Profile picture of the author socialentry
                Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                For example I spent a long time drealing with "Mental Ilness" and for me doing the best thing has been really helpful
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                I think you should really pay more heed to those who have called you out on mental illness, especially if they have titles like "Dr." or "MD"



                You joke about it but from the little I've seen of you I honestly think you're putting a bandaid on what are likely to be much more serious issues.Ones that you can't solve by reading self help books or joking about Claude.
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                • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
                  Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

                  I think you should really pay more heed to those who have called you out on mental illness, especially if they have titles like "Dr." or "MD"

                  You joke about it but from the little I've seen of you I honestly think you're putting a bandaid on what are likely to be much more serious issues.Ones that you can't solve by reading self help books or joking about Claude.
                  I'm proud of everything I have experieced/overcome. Thanks for the advice however it's useless.
                  : )

                  P.S. I think anyone can learn a great deal from Self-Help/Personal Development books. They just have to have an "open mind"/be open to learning ... The problem with many People is that they think they have it all figured out when really there is much to learn.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
                    Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                    I'm proud of everything I have experieced/overcome. Thanks for the advice however it's useless.
                    : )

                    P.S. I think anyone can learn a great deal from Self-Help/Personal Development books. They just have to have an "open mind"/be open to learning ... The problem with many People is that they think they have it all figured out when really there is much to learn.
                    The more I learn the more I learn I don't know .

                    Self help and personal development are great .when you can point to where it has helped ..where you have impro Ed . And how it helps develop a better life.

                    If a person uses it as a crutch just to feel better .but does nothing that actually leads to their life getting better .

                    Is it not just like a drug or playing video games .or a number of other coping with a shitty life but never doing anything to make it better activities.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
                      Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

                      TSelf help and personal development are great .when you can point to where it has helped ..where you have impro Ed . And how it helps develop a better life.
                      Definitely. I won't go into all the things I've learned from Personal Development books -- that have significantly improved my Life -- because I have posted it several times before.

                      Sometimes People use them as a "crutch" (etc.)

                      However the smart People understand that they can learn a great deal from them. (And -- yes many times that means taking action on the advice rather than just reading it.)

                      Everyone is different though. And many (most?) People wouldn't understand/agree with that. And that's a good thing: Because we all need different People/Personalities to give The Form flavour.

                      Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

                      Which in the world we live in is definite confirmation of some mental illness.

                      I hope you get the joke
                      (Hah.) Could be some truth to that.
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                      • Profile picture of the author Odahh
                        Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                        Definitely. I won't go into all the things I've learned from Personal Development books -- that have significantly improved my Life -- because I have posted it several times before.

                        Sometimes People use them as a "crutch" (etc.)

                        However the smart People understand that they can learn a great deal from them. (And -- yes many times that means taking action on the advice rather than just reading it.)

                        Everyone is different though. And many (most?) People wouldn't understand/agree with that. And that's a good thing: Because we all need different People/Personalities to give The Form flavour.
                        WTH you stepped out of forum character and posted your thoughts and no quotes from motivational gurus .

                        Must be an off day on your part.

                        One thing I have learned in the last few years . Is that is that a hell of a lot more people . Understand and know about this stuff . But gave no idea how to safely talk about it with others
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                        • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
                          You Guys can do all that forever (if you like) however I'm never going to give up ― no matter what.

                          Sometimes being a Man means believing in yourself no matter what People think, say, or do.
                          And then taking action on what's most important.
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                          • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
                            Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                            You Guys can do all that forever (if you like) however I'm never going to give up ― no matter what.

                            Sometimes being a Man means believing in yourself no matter what People think, say, or do.
                            And then taking action on what's most important.

                            ^ Thin^
                            That is exactly the mindset of people akin to Adolf Hitler, Jim Jones, Timothy McVeigh, etc.


                            Those people believed they were right and took action. Look were it got them!
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                            • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
                              Originally Posted by Jeffery View Post

                              ^ Thin^
                              That is exactly the mindset of people akin to Adolf Hitler, Jim Jones, Timothy McVeigh, etc.


                              Those people believed they were right and took action. Look were it got them!
                              Just because they may of had that "mindset" doesn't make it a bad thing ... It's like saying self-confidence is a bad thing because they had that as well.
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                          • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
                            Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                            You Guys can do all that forever (if you like) however I'm never going to give up ― no matter what.

                            Sometimes being a Man means believing in yourself no matter what People think, say, or do.
                            And then taking action on what's most important.
                            Claude is a man, a man's man and men like that and are attracted to him. Even though he never had to shave he wears Old Spice, the mark of a man.

                            But he is also sensitive and never wants to discriminate or be macho arrogant around women. That is why he is proud to say he has never held the door open for one, offered to carry a heavy item, cook a meal, sew on a button or put out the trash. He knows they are his equals and can easily do that themselves.

                            He knows his place and that his dinner will be on the table for him when he gets home.

                            Real men do what is right, real men things, they have no time for the above.
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                            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                              Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

                              Claude is a man, a man's man and men like that and are attracted to him. Even though he never had to shave he wears Old Spice, the mark of a man.

                              But he is also sensitive and never wants to discriminate or be macho arrogant around women. That is why he is proud to say he has never held the door open for one, offered to carry a heavy item, cook a meal, sew on a button or put out the trash. He knows they are his equals and can easily do that themselves.

                              He knows his place and that his dinner will be on the table for him when he gets home.

                              Real men do what is right, real men things, they have no time for the above.
                              Lol, yes, clearly real men reside in Australia.

                              Or real men wear underarm deodorant, that makes lesser men cry, or have trouble breathing from up to 10 metres away, because of the mainly toxic fumes emanating from person, that is supposed to attract women, but only attracts small rodents, (that is all we have on the shelves in AU).

                              Or real men in AU, don't talk to others at a reasonable tone but bellow out every word, so everyone in the coffee shop can hear about their religious beliefs and how depressed they where, (this happened to my recently).

                              And real men, when answering their smart phone in a dead quiet que in a bank or whatever, bellow out their conversations, which in turn causes several fatalities, (heart attacks, strokes, etc) so the que thins and they can pay off the last installment on their ute sooner.

                              Why do l feel that this thread is turning into a Chuck Norris bender, ho, well, yes AU, l know that all Aussie men are supposed to wrestle a crock, or punch a kangaroo or have a game of golf with cane toads to prove their manliness, but l believe that watching Die Hard will cover it.

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                            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                              Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

                              Claude is a man, a man's man and men like that and are attracted to him. Even though he never had to shave he wears Old Spice, the mark of a man.

                              But he is also sensitive and never wants to discriminate or be macho arrogant around women. That is why he is proud to say he has never held the door open for one, offered to carry a heavy item, cook a meal, sew on a button or put out the trash. He knows they are his equals and can easily do that themselves.

                              He knows his place and that his dinner will be on the table for him when he gets home.

                              Real men do what is right, real men things, they have no time for the above.
                              I was sure you mentioned Circumference of Doom, but anyway l did a search for some more details...





                              And l magnified it.




                              He also wanted to do a second motion picture called, "The Blob that Ate the Thing" but due to a court action, and continual ligation from the Circumference one, and a pastry shortage, decided not to.

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                              • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
                                Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

                                I was sure you mentioned Circumference of Doom, but anyway l did a search for some more details...





                                And l magnified it.




                                He also wanted to do a second motion picture called, "The Blob that Ate the Thing" but due to a court action, and continual ligation from the Circumference one, and a pastry shortage, decided not to.

                                Shane, look at the box cover, it clearly says: "Indiana Jones And The Circumference Of Doom" and yet, I remember it as just "Circumference Of Doom"...Mandela
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                          • Profile picture of the author Odahh
                            Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                            You Guys can do all that forever (if you like) however I'm never going to give up ― no matter what.

                            Sometimes being a Man means believing in yourself no matter what People think, say, or do.
                            And then taking action on what's most important.
                            There is a reason I am trying to adjust what you are saying or trying to say. From being a man to being an adult .

                            It is perfectly fine to persue what you feel we l us important . If you are the one who will bare the negative consequences if things do not go well.

                            True self belief true self confidence is gained from messing thing up then cleaning up the mess and in the end having thing be better than if things went according to plan.

                            Giving up is not really an option .though there is always stuff you may need to stop doing . To focus on better opportunities to improve or sometimes just to rest and heal.

                            It is highly respectable that you are doing what you can to get control of your mental condition. And working to forge a better life for yourself and find a way to help others.

                            The right thing for you to do . Many times will not be the right thing for many other people .

                            So form your own measure of what being a man means to you or being an adult . Then measure up to your own measure . And avoid using your measure to measure others .

                            People who do that usually don't measure up well .so they run around trying to find people who don't measure up and preach at them .
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                  • Profile picture of the author socialentry
                    Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                    I'm proud of everything I have experieced/overcome. Thanks for the advice however it's useless.
                    : )

                    P.S. I think anyone can learn a great deal from Self-Help/Personal Development books. They just have to have an "open mind"/be open to learning ... The problem with many People is that they think they have it all figured out when really there is much to learn.

                    Hm That is weird for you to say this abbout open mindedness as

                    you seem only to parrot Western self-help authors.


                    There is a lot of self-help literature around the world that is far far superior to whatever western self-help authors can come up with (either because they are lazy or too money grubbing) and until you have read them you cannot claim to

                    know much about self help literature.



                    E.g.

                    Do you even know of the idea of Juche?
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                    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
                      Hi socialentry.

                      Although there can be some amazing books that aren't "Western" ... I still think there is a tremendous amount of value in Western Personal Development Books. The problem I see with many People is they don't "trust" the books and/or the Authors: Meaning they think the Authors don't care or that they're only out to make money etc. When many if not most of them really want to provide something great to People.

                      A book you may like ― if you haven't read it ― is "The Power Of now." It was marketed to a Western audience however contains elements of "Eastern" (etc.) philosophies..

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                      • Profile picture of the author socialentry
                        Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                        Hi socialentry.

                        Although there can be some amazing books that aren't "Western" ... I still think there is a tremendous amount of value in Western Personal Development Books. The problem I see with many People is they don't "trust" the books and/or the Authors: Meaning they think the Authors don't care or that they're only out to make money etc. When many if not most of them really want to provide something great to People.

                        A book you may like ― if you haven't read ― is "The Power Of now." It was marketed to a Western audience however contains elements of "Eastern" (etc.) philosophies..

                        :

                        Thank your for the recommendation but I already know the content.

                        The problem I see with many people is that they read only the Western self-help canon.

                        Western self-help canon is highly derivative of Korean self-help cannon (to the point of plagiarism) so why not go back to the primary sources?

                        I highly recommend that you start with "With the Century" by Kim Il Sung.

                        While reading "With the Century", you can concretely see that Western self-help authors stole from Kim Il Sung's ideas. Even the phrase "self-help" is a direct translation of Juche which is a bit dishonest on the part of Western self-help authors.

                        When you are done you will slap your forehead like in Western cartoons and go:

                        "How could I not see this from the getgo?"
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                        • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
                          Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

                          The problem I see with many people is that they read only the Western self-help canon.

                          Western self-help canon is highly derivative of Korean self-help cannon (to the point of plagiarism) so why not go back to the primary sources?"
                          Again, I think People can learn the best from both Worlds. I could be wrong I don't know anything about religion..
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                          • Profile picture of the author socialentry
                            Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                            Again, I think People can learn the best from both Worlds. I could be wrong I don't know anything about religion..

                            I wasn't using it to refer to Korean religion , but rather as a literary body of work that everyone refers to in a given dicipline.

                            E.g. In Star Wars, you have the canon (the movies) and the expanded universe (everything not done by George Lucas)


                            In any case, why study something that is a watered down version. It's like seeing a kindergarden play of Lords of the Rings instead of reading the novels.
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                            • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
                              Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

                              In any case, why study something that is a watered down version. It's like seeing a kindergarden play of Lords of the Rings instead of reading the novels.
                              In general terms a Person can learn something without reading all the guide/eBooks/etc. In fact sometimes I have learned a little "nugget" of wisdom from a book that has been really helpful.. 2C
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                              • Profile picture of the author socialentry
                                Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                                In general terms a Person can learn something without reading all the guide/eBooks/etc. In fact sometimes I have learned a little "nugget" of wisdom from a book that has been really helpful.. 2C

                                yes but have you read "With the Century" by Kim Il Sung?



                                You know, you can come out and say:

                                "Sorry I only like Western self help books and no other books"


                                But you can't claim open mindedness if you only read a very narrow category of books. Just like you cannot claim to enjoy English literature if you only read Twilight novels.
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                                • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
                                  Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

                                  "Sorry I only like Western self help books and no other books"
                                  Yeah I could say that, however it wouldn't be true. I don't know anything about books from other cultures etc. (If I read them I'd probably like them.)
                                  : )
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                                  • Profile picture of the author socialentry
                                    Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                                    Yeah I could say that, however it wouldn't be true. I don't know anything about books from other cultures etc. (If I read them I'd probably like them.)
                                    : )

                                    You just restated what I said: you only like to read western self help books and no other books. (lol)
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                                    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
                                      Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

                                      You just restated what I said: you only like to read western self help books and no other books. (lol)
                                      What book would you recommend ... Just out of curiosity.
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                • Profile picture of the author Odahh
                  Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

                  I think you should really pay more heed to those who have called you out on mental illness, especially if they have titles like "Dr." or "MD"



                  You joke about it but from the little I've seen of you I honestly think you're putting a bandaid on what are likely to be much more serious issues.Ones that you can't solve by reading self help books or joking about Claude.
                  Oddly I do not think I have seen Johnathan partake in Claude jokes ..and I have not seen anyone on this forum who was willing to prove they had the credentials .address how John talk about his mental condition .

                  I've John actually does consult with professionals on his condition and sub conditions .

                  As one of the main people to take issuewith or get on John's case .it is mainly because he refused to show his personality or develop it.. and hides behinds the quotes of self help gurus .

                  Now I am the one who jokes about the combination of bi polar disorder and high functioning autism and dozen sub conditions .. as the last thing the shrink I went too for almost two years .was really. There is nothing more I can do for you .

                  So you might have gotten us mixed up a little
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                  • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
                    Thanks Odahh: I've been a fan of you for years.
                    : )
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                    • Profile picture of the author Odahh
                      Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                      Thanks Odahh: I've been a fan of you for years.
                      : )
                      Did you miss the jabs I took at you .. see I don't think you can take part in the Claude joke thing .

                      I do t think you are able to be mean you are just naturally an exceptionally nice person . . Which in the world we live in is definite confirmation of some mental illness.

                      I hope you get the joke
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                    Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

                    Oddly I do not think I have seen Johnathan partake in Claude jokes ..and I have not seen anyone on this forum who was willing to prove they had the credentials .address how John talk about his mental condition .
                    Two True Statements.
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                    • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
                      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                      Two True Statements.
                      Jonathan would never lower himself to do Claude jokes. It takes rigorous training to lower yourself to do that and not feel a tinge of guilt. And you need to become "Certified". I am proud to say I'm Certified.

                      Wait..
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                      • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
                        Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

                        Jonathan would never lower himself to do Claude jokes. It takes rigorous training to lower yourself to do that and not feel a tinge of guilt. And you need to become "Certified". I am proud to say I'm Certifiable.

                        Wait..
                        Fixed......
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                        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                          Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

                          Shane, look at the box cover, it clearly says: "Indiana Jones And The Circumference Of Doom" and yet, I remember it as just "Circumference Of Doom"...Mandela
                          No, Mark this was the original poster created in 1988, before it was released.

                          Then after Harrison Ford, stole Claudes hat, and Stephen Spielberg, threw rocks at his window, and told him he would be barred from watching ET, he or the producer, (when he was sober) had it removed.

                          It is a mystery what became of the remaining copies on VHS, but rumors that the remaining copies where put into small safes, with a priest spraying holy donut batter over it, and then thrown into the ocean over the Manarias Trench is more than likely.

                          It was reported that Claude said, after the first screening and the mass suicides that followed, "I am the Destroyer of Cinema's".

                          Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

                          "Lol I'm sure you Guys loathe Claude anyway. Thanks for the post by the way.: )"

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                        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                          By the way, I've heard this from lots of guys thinking it made them sound like more of a "Man"...

                          "I never start a fight, but I never walk away from one".

                          I guess it's intended to make others believe that they are brave...or macho...or whatever.

                          I always thought it was a stupid statement.

                          It's always made by some guy that has no idea how to fight. Someone with real skills would do almost anything to avoid conflict, because they know how to do real damage...damage that will end with you in jail, and the other guy in the hospital.

                          The statement is made by guys that can hit you ten times, or get hit ten times, and only have a black eye, or a cut on their cheek. Men who fight like children.
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                          • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
                            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                            By the way, I've heard this from lots of guys thinking it made them sound like more of a "Man"...

                            "I never start a fight, but I never walk away from one".

                            I guess it's intended to make others believe that they are brave...or macho...or whatever.

                            I always thought it was a stupid statement.

                            It's always made by some guy that has no idea how to fight. Someone with real skills would do almost anything to avoid conflict, because they know how to do real damage...damage that will end with you in jail, and the other guy in the hospital.

                            The statement is made by guys that can hit you ten times, or get hit ten times, and only have a black eye, or a cut on their cheek. Men who fight like children.
                            "I never start a fight, but I never walk away from one".

                            Dan Riffle said those words. Somehow a vision of Motorised Wheelchairs For Children flashed across my mind. Can't think where I got that from?
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                        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                          Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

                          Claude .

                          Guys who use that line usually have no idea how to shut their miths until someone feels the need to punch them out.

                          They will tend to talk crap to people they feel are weeker than them and push the other person to throwing punches

                          They also tend to be with others and pick individual targets .

                          Then there are people from chicago. .usually nice enough people .until you do or say something that gets them to point out they are from Chicago.
                          Agreed, anyone who uses the "Claude" word usually ends up in a fight.

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                        • Profile picture of the author DWolfe
                          Originally Posted by socialentry View Post


                          I highly recommend that you start with "With the Century" by Kim Il Sung.

                          While reading "With the Century", you can concretely see that Western self-help authors stole from Kim Il Sung's ideas. Even the phrase "self-help" is a direct translation of Juche which is a bit dishonest on the part of Western self-help authors.

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                          Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                          What book would you recommend ... Just out of curiosity.
                          He actually did recommend a place to start Jonathan.
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                          • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
                            Originally Posted by DWolfe View Post

                            He actually did recommend a place to start Jonathan.
                            Yeah thanks. : ) I'll have a look at it.
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                            • Profile picture of the author Kay King
                              And how the hell do you jump from the context of what me and Jon where talking about

                              This is a public forum - not a private conversation. You can ignore comments you disagree with but you can't dictate who is allowed to comment or what they are allowed say.



                              This thread is a bit silly. I've never met a real man who spent time wondering what it was to 'be a man'.



                              I've seen the same members in several threads - being rude to those they disagree with - and a mod editing posts - deleting comments and closing threads he doesn't like. Not good - a little tolerance and less 'me me' would go a long way.
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                              • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                                Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

                                I've seen the same members in several threads - being rude to those they disagree with - and a mod editing posts - deleting comments and closing threads he doesn't like. .
                                "He"? I cannot imagine who you mean.

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                              • Profile picture of the author Odahh
                                Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

                                This is a public forum - not a private conversation. You can ignore comments you disagree with but you can't dictate who is allowed to comment or what they are allowed say.
                                I
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                                Hey I felt like he was trolling . But after that part you quoted I treated it like it was an actual statement . And responded .

                                Sorry if I came if that came off as he shount post or .I am far more interested in the motives .or why or the pattern.

                                And so far his logic jumps are to people in situations that may have got them dead.

                                I really did want to know how he made that jump in logic.
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                                • Profile picture of the author socialentry
                                  Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

                                  Hey I felt like he was trolling . But after that part you quoted I treated it like it was an actual statement . And responded .

                                  Sorry if I came if that came off as he shount post or .I am far more interested in the motives .or why or the pattern.

                                  And so far his logic jumps are to people in situations that may have got them dead.

                                  I really did want to know how he made that jump in logic.

                                  Hmmmm.... I will use an analogy: :



                                  John 2.0:"All felines are always purple"
                                  Socialentry:"But what if there is a black cat."
                                  Oddah:"What the hell! Black cat????!! That is one perverse jump of logic to go from felines to black cats"
                                  John:"Thank you Mr.Literal. hihihihihihi. "
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                                  • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
                                    I have. My military background, commanding soldiers from all walks of life. Many of them, male and female grew up on the wrong side of the tracks just like me. It is a very different world. After some man-training we had one thing in common.. How to be a better person and serve humanity.


                                    Admittedly, we had our faults, which brought out the best in us.
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                                    I don't know about other men, but I have found it pretty dang awesome being able to pee standing up.
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                                      Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                                      I don't know about other men, but I have found it pretty dang awesome being able to pee standing up.
                                      Yes....I remember being able to pee standing up.

                                      The glory days.
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                                      • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
                                        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                                        Yes....I remember being able to pee standing up.

                                        The glory days.
                                        Even though it put an end to your public speaking career?
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                                          Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

                                          Even though it put an end to your public speaking career?
                                          His public speaking put an end to his public speaking career.
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                                        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                                          Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

                                          Even though it put an end to your public speaking career?
                                          It actually did. I made the mistake of speaking to a large group of women. My talk Empower Your Flabby Lady Muscles. How To Pee Standing Up Like A Real Man...went over like a lead balloon. In fact, after I did the peeing demonstration (By popular demand)....my porn name changed to Lead Balloon.

                                          True story.


                                          Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                                          His public speaking put an end to his public speaking career.
                                          The last time I spoke publicly, was in front of a judge, holding a small doll....the judge asked me "OK, now point to where the short gnome like man touched you inappropriately".
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                                          • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
                                            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                                            It actually did. I made the mistake of speaking to a large group of women. My talk Empower Your Flabby Lady Muscles. How To Pee Standing Up Like A Real Man...went over like a lead balloon. In fact, after I did the peeing demonstration (By popular demand)....my porn name changed to Lead Balloon.

                                            True story.
                                            Lol Reminds me of my favourite joke: "How do you get a fat woman into bed?"
                                            ... Piece of cake!
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                                            • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
                                              Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                                              Lol Reminds me of my favourite joke: "How do you get a fat woman into bed?"
                                              ... Piece of cake!
                                              How do you get a fat, balding sweaty Vacuum Cleaner salesman out of bed.

                                              Piece of KFC
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                                              • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
                                                Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

                                                How do you get a fat, balding sweaty Vacuum Cleaner salesman out of bed.

                                                Piece of KFC
                                                Finger clicking good. : P
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                                            • Profile picture of the author Odahh
                                              Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                                              Lol Reminds me of my favourite joke: "How do you get a fat woman into bed?"
                                              ... Piece of cake!
                                              There is a bit chubby and then there is fat.

                                              Chubby a piece of cake will do . Fat you takes the whole freaking cake .

                                              You think I'm making a joke.
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                                          • Profile picture of the author DWolfe
                                            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                                            peeing demonstration (By popular demand)....my porn name changed to Lead Baffoon.
                                            True story.
                                            Fixed it for you
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                                          • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
                                            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                                            It actually did. I made the mistake of speaking to a large group of women. My talk Empower Your Flabby Lady Muscles. How To Pee Standing Up Like A Real Man...went over like a lead balloon. In fact, after I did the peeing demonstration (By popular demand)....my porn name changed to Lead Balloon.

                                            True story.



                                            The last time I spoke publicly, was in front of a judge, holding a small doll....the judge asked me "OK, now point to where the short gnome like man touched you inappropriately".
                                            No, thats women going down "On" a Lead Balloon.
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                              • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                                Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

                                This thread is a bit silly. I've never met a real man who spent time wondering what it was to 'be a man'.
                                .
                                i was thinking the same thing myself.

                                I've never heard anyone ask themselves (or ask me) what it was like to be a real man...or even ask me to define a "Real man".
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                                • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
                                  Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                                  i was thinking the same thing myself. I've never heard anyone ask themselves (or ask me) what it was like to be a real man...or even ask me to define a "Real man".
                                  I think I got stuck at being 15 becuse of a traumatic expeice. It wasn't until my mid 20's that I began to "mature."
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                                  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
                                    Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                                    I think I got stuck at being 15 becuse of a traumatic expeice. It wasn't until my mid 20's that I began to "mature."
                                    Woman mature men just get older and fater. Which for most men changes their behavior . So they calm down .

                                    But their are still plenty of men who never mentally get out of their teenage years .

                                    Or they will be in their 40s 50s or even 60s if their liver holds up that long a complete mess . Still pointing to their crappy child hood .

                                    By the time 95 percent of males are 25 . Unless they take great effort to change . They will have the same personality the rest of their lives with some slow changes over time .

                                    Needing either massive trauma or Devine intervention to change
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                                    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
                                      Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

                                      Woman mature men just get older and fater. Which for most men changes their behavior . So they calm down .
                                      Well I think grey hair and wrinkles add Character. : ) (Lol)

                                      But their are still plenty of men who never mentally get out of their teenage years.
                                      Sure. I guess a Person can look down on them ... Or do something to help them. (For what it's worth there's a great program from David DeAngelo titled "On Being A Man ..." that some People may find helpful. Just search YouTube for free videos.)

                                      Or they will be in their 40s 50s or even 60s if their liver holds up that long a complete mess . Still pointing to their crappy child hood.
                                      I suppose I didn't have a great Childhood however it wasn't so bad

                                      By the time 95 percent of males are 25 . Unless they take great effort to change . They will have the same personality the rest of their lives with some slow changes over time .
                                      Completely disagree with that. A Man (or a Woman) can keep growing and improving and evolving no matter where they started from.
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                                      • Profile picture of the author Odahh
                                        Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                                        Well I think grey hair and wrinkles add Character



                                        I suppose I didn't have a great Childhood however it wasn't so bad



                                        Completely disagree with that. A Man (or a Woman) can keep growing and improving and evolving no matter where they started from.
                                        You missed the point of me adding the caveate of either devine intervention or traumatic experience . After 25 . To get 95 percent of males to change dramatically .

                                        But that also may be changing where it is harder and harder to work I the same instry or job for 10 to 30 years

                                        Also many times in marriage spouses try to prevent the other from changing to much . And will sabotage the others efforts.

                                        I'm not looking down on people when the reality is so easy to see
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                                        • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
                                          Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

                                          You missed the point of me adding the caveate of either devine intervention or traumatic experience . After 25 . To get 95 percent of males to change dramatically .
                                          I have no idea what that means.
                                          All I know that that my experience in Life has moulded me into a "successful Person" As it's been said: "Life keepss throwing me stones and I keep finding diamonds". ― Ana Claudia Antunes

                                          Personally I don't think a person has to have a "traumatic" experience or "divine intervention" in order to grow. In fact many times it's the simple things in Life that builds strong Character.
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                                          • Profile picture of the author Odahh
                                            Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                                            I have no idea what that means.

                                            Personally I don't think a person has to have a "traumatic" experience or "divine intervention" in order to grow. In fact many times it's the simple things in Life that builds strong Character.
                                            Facts and reality don't care about nor tend to agree with your personal thoughts .

                                            I'm the one saying you can decide to grow without needing big problems .for the most part though to start changing and go on the path of growth .people to tend to either have to get plunged into hell or have a sudden high level spiritual experience .

                                            You are the one proclaiming that value and the growth from the big nasty problems you went through .

                                            So how can you not understand .unless you truely have no clue what you are actually saying
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                                            • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
                                              Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

                                              Facts and reality don't care about nor tend to agree with your personal thoughts .

                                              I'm the one saying you can decide to grow without needing big problems .for the most part though to start changing and go on the path of growth .people to tend to either have to get plunged into hell or have a sudden high level spiritual experience .

                                              You are the one proclaiming that value and the growth from the big nasty problems you went through .

                                              So how can you not understand .unless you truely have no clue what you are actually saying
                                              Like I said: Many times good/strong Character is developed from the simple things in Life. But thanks for playing. : P
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                                            • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
                                              Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

                                              You are the one proclaiming that value and the growth from the big nasty problems you went through
                                              I've been through some terrible times. However in retrospect it's all been good. I've learned many things and one of them is: Being more appreciative and grateful for everything I have.

                                              Even things like my Flat and shopping I'm grateful for. There are several more things I've learned however we'll leave it there for now. When a Person is faced with adversity (etc.) they have a choice ... Learn something from it or let it get the better of you ....

                                              I decided to do the former.
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                                  Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                                  i was thinking the same thing myself.

                                  I've never heard anyone ask themselves (or ask me) what it was like to be a real man...or even ask me to define a "Real man".
                                  Why would anyone ask you what it's like to be a real man?
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                            • Profile picture of the author Kay King
                              It's not just you - it's been a new - and concerning pattern on the forum.


                              There is a new tendency to argue with anyone who desn't say eactly what you think they should say or in the way you think they should say it (not meaning 'you' personally but the collective, imaginary 'you').


                              Someone who disagrees is not a 'personal insult' or 'personal attack' - they have a right to express their own opinion. Others don't have to agree but recently I've seen members attacking each other over the stupidest of details.


                              This is the OT section - let's sit back, grab a beer, speculate/articulate/debate.....and respect each other's viewpoints....please?
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                        Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

                        Jonathan would never lower himself to do Claude jokes. It takes rigorous training to lower yourself to do that and not feel a tinge of guilt. And you need to become "Certified". I am proud to say I'm Certified.

                        Wait..
                        Lol I'm sure you Guys love Claude anyway. Thanks for the post by the way.
                        : )
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                        • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
                          Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                          Lol I'm sure you Guys love Claude anyway. Thanks for the post by the way.
                          : )
                          "Lol I'm sure you Guys loathe Claude anyway. Thanks for the post by the way.
                          : )"

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                          • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
                            Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

                            "Lol I'm sure you Guys loathe Claude anyway. Thanks for the post by the way.
                            : )"

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                            (Haha.) You guys are mean. However it says a lot about his Character to roll with all that. : )
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                            • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
                              Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                              (Haha.) You guys are mean. However it says a lot about his Character to roll with all that. : )
                              You are just out to tempt me today now aren't you.

                              Yes, he has a lot of Rolls
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                              • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
                                Another part of being a Man for me would be taking 100% responsibility for everything that happens to me. That doesn't necessarily mean taking responsibility for everything ... But of it.

                                This is something I learned from Jack Canfield who in turn learned it from W. Clement Stone. When you do this it can be very liberating.

                                (HTH)
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                      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                        Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

                        Jonathan would never lower himself to do Claude jokes. It takes rigorous training to lower yourself to do that and not feel a tinge of guilt. And you need to become "Certified". I am proud to say I'm Certified.

                        Wait..
                        I believe that you are certified. I've always believed that you were certifiable.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kurt
      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

      What does it mean to be a man?

      I've never asked myself that question. It's just not how I think.
      Don't lie. You've asked a variety of Swedish doctors this very question when researching your upcoming Addadicktome operation.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
    I prefer to be a good man instead of..
    What Does It Mean To Be A Man?

    PS.. Its not a gender question. More of an old saying. Alas, many of the younger generation do not know there is a difference. Life experiences and all.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by Jeffery View Post

      I prefer to be a good man instead of..
      What Does It Mean To Be A Man?

      PS.. Its not a gender question. More of an old saying. Alas, many of the younger generation do not know there is a difference. Life experiences and all.
      Years ago, when I was married to my first wife, a guy in a bar said to me (in front of my wife) "If you get tired of her, let me know. I'll take her".

      I smiled and said "I'll be sure to let you know", and we walked away.

      My wife got mad and said "Why didn't you fight this guy?"

      I said "Because he's not a threat".

      She said something like "A real man would fight for me".

      And I said "I don't need to fight for you. If you want to stay with me, you will. If you want to be with a guy that gets into bar fights, there he is".

      Her mistake was thinking that by saying "A real man" it would make me want to prove myself. Get into a fight, probably cripple someone. Go to jail. It was one of those moments when I realized that we were a different species.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jamell
    Being a man is taking ownership and responsibility of my actions.Being a man is in having respect for myself and my fellow human-beings.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
      Thanks Everyone.
      : )

      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

      But...what's the best way to get through life? To be kind to everyone. To treat people fairly, even when you aren't getting what you want. Once you accept that as an unbreakable rule, decisions become easier and life becomes easier.
      Nice. : ) Thanks Claude. I appreciate the contribution.


      Originally Posted by Jamell View Post

      Being a man is taking ownership and responsibility of my actions.
      Absolutely. Thanks Jamell.
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  • Profile picture of the author palmtreelife
    I gained some interesting perspectives on this topic after my Tony Robbins life coach suggested I read "The Way of the Superior Man". Don't judge a book by it's title. It was interesting and got a lot deeper than "do the right thing".

    It really opened my eyes about relationships as well...a man's role, expectations from the female etc. Women should read the book as well as they will gain a better understanding of men and how they operate...yes, insert the jokes here now....but I got a lot out of the book and it has helped improve my relationship with my wife.
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  • Profile picture of the author Erik Rose
    My wife and I discuss this question once and a while haha. I don't think 'doing the right thing' is exclusive to this idea of being a man or woman, because children can 'do the right thing'. In my opinion 'being a man' can be defined as when you have the ability to and start taking care of yourself no longer being dependent on your parents. Keyword dependence. Just my take
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    >RE: What Does It Mean To Be A Man?

    I'll let you know as soon as I figure it out. Seriously.
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  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
    Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

    "What's a guaranteed prescription for misery? Blame others for your setbacks and problems. This guarantees that your life will never improve, and you'll never be happy (whatever that is)."

    Yep, it's all your fault.
    I second that,...oh, wait, things are going pretty well for me at present,.....no, still Claudes fault!

    Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

    Years ago, when I was married to my first wife, a guy in a bar said to me (in front of my wife) "If you get tired of her, let me know. I'll take her".

    I smiled and said "I'll be sure to let you know", and we walked away.

    My wife got mad and said "Why didn't you fight this guy?"

    I said "Because he's not a threat".

    She said something like "A real man would fight for me".

    And I said "I don't need to fight for you. If you want to stay with me, you will. If you want to be with a guy that gets into bar fights, there he is".

    Her mistake was thinking that by saying "A real man" it would make me want to prove myself. Get into a fight, probably cripple someone. Go to jail. It was one of those moments when I realized that we were a different species.
    True, a real man in a war zone, will take bullets and do heroic things to protect his fellow man, and usually ends up dead, but not always.

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  • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
    Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

    Thought I would post this for the younger guys with us:

    For me it would be: "To do the right thing no matter what."

    2C
    By the way doing the right thing doesn't necessarily mean choosing "right" from "wrong." It means that no matter what happens you will choose the right path that will make you more successful.

    I hope that makes sense.
    : )

    Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

    Quelle honte.
    For example I spent a long time drealing with "Mental Ilness" and for me doing the best thing has been really helpful
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    That only is really helpfully when you know the difference between reacting to everything and responding .

    Taking responsibility is more about developing your ability to respond . Rather than the assignment of blame .

    I'll partly quote Jordon Peterson or mash his concepts together . Clean up your room suffering and chaos are part of life. Your role if you want a happy life is to carve out patches of order from the chaos.

    I will bring up your mental condition as I really refer noot to call it an illness . How responsible are you or who us to blame for it . And how much good will it do . On the other hand you have this condition and it is your responsibility to make choices every day that don't make it a problem and actually find the benefit in it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
      Nice post: Thanks Odahh.
      : )

      Yeah it's not about assigning "blame" etc ... (That's why I said sometimes it's about taking responsibility of something -- not for it.) For instance (as far as I know) it wasn't my fault that I developed Social Anxiety and a Mental Illness ... However I made the decision to take responsibility of it and turn it into something positive.

      Hope that makes sense. :
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  • Profile picture of the author salegurus
    All i'm going to say is this... Being a man or accepted definition thereof in 2019 is totally different from days gone by...
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    • Profile picture of the author Odahh
      Originally Posted by salegurus View Post

      All i'm going to say is this... Being a man or accepted definition thereof in 2019 is totally different from days gone by...
      In days gone by . Conditioning to be a man for a majority of men was geared to get men to basically be beasts of burden doing some form of hard lahbor from dawn to dusk with the occasional opportunity to get inducted in the military and sent off to war.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
      Originally Posted by salegurus View Post

      All i'm going to say is this... Being a man or accepted definition thereof in 2019 is totally different from days gone by...
      Interesting. : ) I would tend to agree. In the past (maybe) Men were more "masculine." The movie "A Streetcar Named Desire" for instance.

      Thoughts?
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    John my preference is not to call it mental illness . If there is one thing social md I a has shown it is everyone is wired differently . A large number of people where just able to actually like everyone else and hide their differences .

    A large number of successful entrapeeneurs are dislexic . The tech industry is full of men with high functioning autism . Most great artists and musicians have real bad cases of depression bi polar disorder


    Every successfully person probabably has some condition that can be considered mental illness.

    I am crazy so I do not believe positive thinking is as close to important . As postivly defineing the words you use first than practicing def thinking in those positive word definitions

    I think I will have to become a guru of the concept but I'm hiding rightnow
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    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
      Thanks Odahh: All the best People are a little bit mad ... (Which means I'm really good) Haha
      : )
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      • Profile picture of the author Odahh
        Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

        Thanks Odahh: All the best People are a little bit mad ... (Which means I'm really good) Haha
        : )
        Flawwed not mad . It is very easy to throw the functioning of the brain off .through impact injury . Malnutrition. Lack of sleep
        Drug use . Heavy metal build up. And so on.

        But unlike any other part of the body at this point we don't have a battery of low cost medical tests that we use to diagnose problems .

        You sit down and talk to phychatrists who generally are drawn to the field by their own mental conditions who then after a time talking to you. Figure out or decide what mental problems you may have
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        • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
          Sorry you didn't get the joke Odahh.
          : )
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          • Profile picture of the author Odahh
            Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

            Sorry you didn't get the joke Odahh.
            : )
            I'm a bit crazy and also I will have to learn when you are joking haha
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            • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
              Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

              I'm a bit crazy and also I will have to learn when you are joking haha
              Lol.
              Sometimes there's some "truth" to Peoples' jokes.
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  • Profile picture of the author twinpa
    Being a man may have different meaning to many people depending on once upbringing.
    The truth is, the belief and value of most people were passed down to them as a virtue of what they were taught and what they saw and hear since these are the notable ways we learn in addition to our own experience which unfortunately dominate us most than our experience which we get in later years.

    As someone from Africa, we have our extended family depending on the most successful ones in the family as well as those in the process of becoming. Being a man in Africa means making loads of money. In some family they don;t care how you make that money and to this end most of the younger generation have taken to internet fraud and what have you because the leaders have failed the nation and the pressure from their family is just too much to bear for most of them and this I feel deeply pity for.

    To some people being a man is being macho. Being the first to appear at any fight scene and being the "Blow man" and getting all the attention of everyone around as a strong man.

    Yet to others being a man is being able to womanize. Date countless women and have pleasurable sex with many of them without marrying any.

    The truth is, while all these opinion and divers views may mean something to everyone we must understand that there is but one truth in life and that is living a meaningful life which can be achieved by doing good.
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  • Profile picture of the author Princess Balestra
    Gotta figure stoopin' low for Claude is the pinnacle of innuendo.

    Actschwly, I ate that once in a real swanky Paris hotel.

    "Would you care to see the dessert menu, mademoiselle?"

    "Sure. You got Ben & Jerry's?"

    "May I recommend the pinnacle d'innuendo?"

    "What in hell is thaaat?"

    "Essentially an exotically sauteed banana drizzled with a honey and tangerine jus, accompanied by a sliver of spicy sausage speared tip to tip."

    "So ... kinda like corn on the cob?"

    "Oui. Only way more expensive."
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    • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
      Originally Posted by Princess Balestra View Post

      pinnacle d'innuendo?"
      "Pinnacle d'Innuendo" is the sequel to Circumference Of Doom made specifically for the French market.
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      • Profile picture of the author Princess Balestra
        Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

        "Pinnacle d'Innuendo" is the sequel to Circumference Of Doom made specifically for the French market.

        It is also a great self defence move for gals who nevah start a fight ... but would really like to.

        Most variations involve a balletic pirouette prior to a sharp blow to the ... ahem ... end destination.

        The beauty of this manoover is that it counters the damage done by people flyin' into a rage because they drunk.

        An' I know this cos I been practisin' pinnacle d'innuendeax on a showroom dummy in my kitchen while under the inflooence of plenty vodka.

        So far, I trashed my refrigerator, cooker, microwave, toaster, cupboards, phone an' vacuum -- plus the gal from across the hall who came lookin' for scissors but left with two broken ribs an' a negative view of hoomanity.
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        • Profile picture of the author Odahh
          Originally Posted by Princess Balestra View Post

          It is also a great self defence move for gals who nevah start a fight ..

          -- plus the gal from across the hall who came lookin' for scissors but left with two broken ribs an' a negative view of hoomanity.
          Well princess . From what you have written on this forum you do respond violently to unwanted sexual attention .

          So I am not surprised another woman . Waiting untill you are drunk to express sexual interest . Might end up with broken ribs

          I hope you understand the joke princess .
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          • Profile picture of the author Princess Balestra
            Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

            Well princess . From what you have written on this forum you do respond violently to unwanted sexual attention .

            So I am not surprised another woman . Waiting untill you are drunk to express sexual interest . Might end up with broken ribs

            I hope you understand the joke princess .
            Beautifulest evah deal with crossed purposes is how they self-manifest possibilities could mebbe shimmy out sumplace.

            Such is forum magic!

            Impossible commune & conflux as may spawnulate noofound magnitoods!

            Touchpoints gonna trigger.

            Flint gonna sparky.

            Blendyjuicy gonna loobricate sweeto interpersonal smoochie so you mebbe gotta duct tape your eyebrows to your face so's they ain't flyin' off noplace stoopid 'pon passion's irresistible command..

            tbh Odesy, we prolly got plenty stuff in common ... like mebbe a coupla giraffes meanderin' round their local zoo enclosure not actschwlly aware they giraffes yet still evidencin' the neccessary SPOTTY an' WAY TOO TALL FOR MOST PEOPLE OTHER THAN MEBBE MOUNTAINEERS OR GYMNASTS TO ASCEND.

            Best thing 'bout Moi is I trooly the sweetest non-monstah evah, seekin' only to cavort where catalytic MWAH MWAH MWAH maxes out on plenty smiles for evrywan in the loop.

            Anywan ain't livin' the dream gotta be smited from the planet with venom, ire & force.

            Thing is ... this is all WOIDS.

            Taken outta context (such as it is) that bold stuff prolly incendiary in the hands of the right wrong people.

            Amongst friends, for sure that is a great tattoo idea for jus' above anywan's dangly whatevahs.

            As a clearly evident bitch queen, mebbe I can go find a bar to vent my venom & ire.

            Alternatively, I write out my generously proffered smart stuff with the immodest diligence of a ditzbrain ain't tryin' forevah to corrupt the Cosmos.

            If'n that ain't procreative hyperbole -- what is?
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    Claude .

    Guys who use that line usually have no idea how to shut their miths until someone feels the need to punch them out.

    They will tend to talk crap to people they feel are weeker than them and push the other person to throwing punches

    They also tend to be with others and pick individual targets .

    Then there are people from chicago. .usually nice enough people .until you do or say something that gets them to point out they are from Chicago.
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    • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
      Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

      Claude .

      Guys who use that line usually have no idea how to shut their miths until someone feels the need to punch them out.

      They will tend to talk crap to people they feel are weeker than them and push the other person to throwing punches

      They also tend to be with others and pick individual targets .

      Then there are people from chicago. .usually nice enough people .until you do or say something that gets them to point out they are from Chicago.
      Dan Riffle definitely said that line then. Case Closed
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    To put up with something or take responsibility for it; to deal with something, such as pain or misfortune, without complaining.
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    Social entry

    The problem I have with most of western self help . Is it guided by a western ideal of what success is . So for the most part the self improvement is about making more money to buy more stuff

    There is a small percent of the population mainly male who will do nothing but work all the time .

    And in my view most self improvement attempts to transform people into that .

    And shits on people who have the nerve to enjoy things things besides work
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    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
      Hi Odahh.

      Many Personal Development/Self-Help Authors teach People how to make money. (Which I personally don't think is a bad thing.)

      However many of them are all about being "successful" in general. For instance Jack Canfield's book "The Success Principles" is more about being successful in Life generally -- rather than just making money.
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    Jeffry .
    I lived as a street preformer in Vegas for a year and half until two years ago.

    So I am seeing that he makes enough to have a drummer and a keyboard player and it does not look like they those two are on the public sidewalk. Maybe he has a deal to set.up there.
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      Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

      Jeffry .
      I lived as a street preformer in Vegas for a year and half until two years ago.

      So I am seeing that he makes enough to have a drummer and a keyboard player and it does not look like they those two are on the public sidewalk. Maybe he has a deal to set.up there.

      Re: What Does It Mean To Be A Man?


      At the very end of the video the singer proclaimed the little girl "is now family" and on the streets that statement means a lot as I am sure you know.


      To me, a sign of a good man is when a man shows humanity and compassion for all people. Especially people with special needs.
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    what type of deal you have done and why younger following you.
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    Love people. Be nice. Be friendly. Do not deeply fear emotions so you repress them and act angry, as many men mean well in so doing but are cowards around little energy waves in their minds LOL. Be loving. Accept people. Open your mind. Spend more time in silence. Ever quality applies to women, and children, too. I am inclusive like that. Good question Jonathan.
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      Wow: Amazing advice: Thanks Ryan.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tyler Hawk
    Humanity.

    A man is no bigger than a woman. If I can get a little detail about why you asked this question, I might be able to answer this.

    I feel something happened with you, which made you feel like you are not a man anymore. Did you scare of something?

    Trust me, you are already a great human being. Ups and downs won't disturb you until you make your focused.

    Good Luck with you my friend.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by Tyler Hawk View Post


      A man is no bigger than a woman. .
      I think it's important that we know that.
      There are no physical differences between men and women.

      Men and women weigh the same, have the same interests, and are equally as strong.

      The evidence for this is shown in every TV show where an unarmed woman takes on three trained armed assassins, and beats them with her bare hands.

      In fact, I swear to almighty God, I have never met a man who was any bigger than a woman. They don't exist.

      And the world's strongest woman is exactly as strong as the world's strongest man.

      To say anything different is sexist, and I won't listen to it.

      In fact, all women and men are equally attractive. And I am here to say that anyone who finds one gender more attractive than the other.....is a sexist misanthrope.

      And I want to apologize for suggesting that there are only two genders. Of course, there are more genders than colors in the rainbow. And they are all equally attractive..to everyone. And they should all play Football....or do Aquacise....whatever you young people do.
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      • Profile picture of the author Odahh
        Claude .
        Even if you delete that which you do . I am glad I got the opportunity to read it .

        And don't forget starwars luck skywalk to learn to use the force trained under one of the greatest Jedi master ain history and took many years .

        Ray on the other before she has any training she is more powerfull than kilo Ren

        And a few breathing excersises from Luke Skywalker and she is the most powerfull.

        Because girl power
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      • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        I think it's important that we know that.
        There are no physical differences between men and women.

        Men and women weigh the same, have the same interests, and are equally as strong.

        The evidence for this is shown in every TV show where an unarmed woman takes on three trained armed assassins, and beats them with her bare hands.

        In fact, I swear to almighty God, I have never met a man who was any bigger than a woman. They don't exist.

        And the world's strongest woman is exactly as strong as the world's strongest man.

        To say anything different is sexist, and I won't listen to it.

        In fact, all women and men are equally attractive. And I am here to say that anyone who finds one gender more attractive than the other.....is a sexist misanthrope.

        And I want to apologize for suggesting that there are only two genders. Of course, there are more genders than colors in the rainbow. And they are all equally attractive..to everyone. And they should all play Football....or do Aquacise....whatever you young people do.

        I see your PC rant and raise you this:

        My son is 3 and a half. While I'm not exactly PC, I see where the world is going and am trying to raise the boy so he can relate to and understand the world he will live in.

        Last night, the Cleveland Browns played the Washington Redskins.

        After a brief discussion of who was playing and which teams were which, my son was trying to figure out who was on "our team."

        He made the assumption that, based on the team names, the Browns were so named because all the players had brown skin. While I can appreciate his assessment as there appears to be some internal logic to his thought process, I was immediately horrified. Could you imagine if he voiced this assessment in public? We'd both be arrested for thought crime.

        Luckily I was able to address his thought process before he tweeted anything...
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post


          Luckily I was able to address his thought process before he tweeted anything...
          Your son has a thought process? He must have inherited that from his mother....or his real father.
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          Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

          I see your PC rant and raise you this:

          My son is 3 and a half. While I'm not exactly PC, I see where the world is going and am trying to raise the boy so he can relate to and understand the world he will live in.

          Last night, the Cleveland Browns played the Washington Redskins.

          After a brief discussion of who was playing and which teams were which, my son was trying to figure out who was on "our team."

          He made the assumption that, based on the team names, the Browns were so named because all the players had brown skin. While I can appreciate his assessment as there appears to be some internal logic to his thought process, I was immediately horrified. Could you imagine if he voiced this assessment in public? We'd both be arrested for thought crime.

          Luckily I was able to address his thought process before he tweeted anything...
          I'll take a guess that the other team being called the "Redskins" contributed to his thought process. Good thing he wasn't watching the Seahawks/Broncos game.
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          • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
            Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

            I'll take a guess that the other team being called the "Redskins" contributed to his thought process. Good thing he wasn't watching the Seahawks/Broncos game.
            Yep, that's exactly it. I'm terrified of what he might've come up with if the Browns were playing the Packers...
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            Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

            I'll take a guess that the other team being called the "Redskins" contributed to his thought process. Good thing he wasn't watching the Seahawks/Broncos game.
            It is great you wrote this and I am not attacking you

            But the child is 3 years old . That fact should stop any. Adult reasonable human being from trying to use any kind of logic to explain the answer.

            And give up on western society as we have given up on any idea of reason.

            An unreasonable but logical person will to try to figure out why a 3 year old said what to three year olds say .

            The right now in the western world reason has been thrown out the window . H ell maybe it has been executed .
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    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
      Originally Posted by Tyler Hawk View Post

      Humanity.

      A man is no bigger than a woman. If I can get a little detail about why you asked this question, I might be able to answer this.

      I feel something happened with you, which made you feel like you are not a man anymore. Did you scare of something?

      Trust me, you are already a great human being. Ups and downs won't disturb you until you make your focused.

      Good Luck with you my friend.
      Thanks for the kind words.

      I suppose the question was meant to be something like: "What makes a mature Man with good Character and Values." (Part of that would be to do the right thing.) I know that in my early 20's I wasn't all that much compared to now. For me going through certain struggles, adversity, and challenges have been very beneficial.
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      • Profile picture of the author Odahh
        Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

        Thanks for the kind words.

        I suppose the question was meant to be something like: "What makes a mature Man with good Character and Values." (Part of that would be to do the right thing.) I know that in my early 20's I wasn't all that much compared to now. For me going through certain struggles, adversity, and challenges have been very beneficial.
        I'm not being critical . And this will sound Wu Wu .. the world we are in and going into allows people to eliminate most of the struggle and challenge . But a person needs to give up on using the story of struggle and challenge .. to justify the good things in their life. Or why they have more good things than others.

        Was the struggle adversity and challenges bad enough . To get the message through that that's not the best way to build a better life .

        If you really take 100 percent responsibility for your life . Then accept that you create these thing or aim at them. Because you believe they will bring you growth.

        But there are better ways to grow.
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        • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
          Thanks Odahh.

          It's just what worked for me. Different People find different ways of growing and evolving. There's no "right" or "wrong" way. Sometimes People think their way is the only way or the best way. A quotation that I like is:

          We don't develop courage by being happy every day. We develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. Fire is the test of gold; adversity, of strong men. Show me someone who has done something worthwhile, and I'll show you someone who has overcome adversity.
          Again different People find other ways of progressing in Life. I have learned a lot in the past 10 years or so however I still have a long way to go.

          My personal values ― some of which I'm good at and others that need work -- are: Love, joy, peace, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control.
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            Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

            Thanks Odahh.

            It's just what worked for me. Different People find different ways of growing and evolving. There's no "right" or "wrong" way. Sometimes People think their way is the only way or the best way.

            But what if the guy hangs out around Islamic extremists and decides to join the Taliban.
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              Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

              But what if the guy hangs out around Islamic extremists and decides to join the Taliban.
              That is the wrong way.

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              Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

              But what if the guy hangs out around Islamic extremists and decides to join the Taliban.
              What if he hangs around white supremacists and decides to join the Klan or any other neo-nazi group?
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            • Profile picture of the author Odahh
              Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

              But what if the guy hangs out around Islamic extremists and decides to join the Taliban.
              Apparently you ignored the entire conversation over several posts and clipped that out .

              And how the hell do you jump from the context of what me and Jon where talking about

              To oh so what if people join the Taliban . Which people on the path of self improment and growth. Tend not to join extremists. But I am sure there are examples of it happening .

              So when people give up on making their lives better some band together with others and look for ways to feel better by making other's lives worse

              You can cut down a tree with a few chainsaws and a log splitter and have firewood to burn all winter in a day or two.

              Or you can do it with a few axes and spend all your extra time for a few months

              You can walk a hundred miles in a few days or more . Or you can jump in a car and do it in a few hours .

              You can do self improvement the way it was done a hundred years ago which is the same way we educate people .or or you can employ tools we have today
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    Dan by horrified you mean the second he said it you found it cute and laughed . Then realized if he said it again in public other people may laugh . Then everyone who laughed would be guilty of some type of crime

    After all laughing at a joke like that .has nothing to do with it just being something cute a 3 year old said . And some sign of hidden racism or some kind of hate .

    Gotta read books on how the communists or the Soviets policed thought to understand the progression of political correctness and where things are going.
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      Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

      Dan by horrified you mean the second he said it you found it cute and laughed . Then realized if he said it again in public other people may laugh . Then everyone who laughed would be guilty of some type of crime

      After all laughing at a joke like that .has nothing to do with it just being something cute a 3 year old said . And some sign of hidden racism or some kind of hate .

      Gotta read books on how the communists or the Soviets policed thought to understand the progression of political correctness and where things are going.
      Yes, I mean horrified in that we're a society of knee-jerk reaction. Obviously, there was no malice in his thinking. He thought teams were named based on skin color due to the combinations of the teams playing. He surely would've derived some other angle had the Browns been playing the Packers or 49'ers. However, lack of malice or intention is no longer part of the accusation process today. Hell, lack of evidence is no longer part of the process. And that's the world in which my son will live. And that's the world for which I have to prepare him.

      And I've gotta keep him off Twitter.
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        Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

        Yes, I mean horrified in that we're a society of knee-jerk reaction. Obviously, there was no malice in his thinking. He thought teams were named based on skin color due to the combinations of the teams playing. He surely would've derived some other angle had the Browns been playing the Packers or 49'ers. However, lack of malice or intention is no longer part of the accusation process today. Hell, lack of evidence is no longer part of the process. And that's the world in which my son will live. And that's the world for which I have to prepare him.

        And I've gotta keep him off Twitter.
        My parents told me: When I was 4, I was on an underground (tube train) with them and saw a man of color and pointed to him and said "What's That". Totally innocent of course, I had just never seen anyone with that skin color before.

        I'm sure that if it had been Claude, my reaction would have been similar. If it had been you, the same again, except I would have pointed downwards.
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    That's fine John .

    If you want to create suffering and challenge and hard times in your future because that worked for you in the past .

    Go ahead eventually you will learn there are better ways being discovered every day .

    In any case I have chosen to create the present based on the future I want . Not based off of the past. We create our past to justify our present .

    There is what happened in the past and how we remember what happened . Or worse yet what we chose to remember to explain the present. Is what we call our past.

    So John do you want the same amount of pain suffering agony and challenge in the next 10 years you went through the last ten years .

    And if you want to learn more in the next ten years. Can you handle it more

    If that worked for you in the past to learn more you have to go through more.

    Or can you learn to learn and grow without pain suffering challenge. Blah blah blah

    Tldr . If you think that the pain and suffering you went through to learn the last 10 years.was needed.
    if you want to learn a lot more in the future. Then be ready for a lot more pain and suffering.
    If pain and suffering is the only way you are willing to learn and grow
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    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
      Thanks Odahh. I appreciate the reply.

      (By the way the appreviation of my name is "Jon".) Personally I think learning from the past is an important thing. That doesn't necessarily mean to go through the same "changeless" In the future ... Just that's it's been something important in a Person's Life.
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      • Profile picture of the author Odahh
        Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

        Thanks Odahh. I appreciate the reply.

        (By the way the appreviation of my name is "Jon".) Personally I think learning from the past is an important thing. That doesn't necessarily mean to go through the same "changeless" In the future ... Just that's it's been something important in a Person's Life.
        Ok Jon

        Learning from the past is great .

        The way you are explain to your view and the quotes you use . You are telling me that there is no other way for you to learn and grow . Accept for suffering misery and otherwise bad stuff .

        And what happened in the last week or so with you Jon . This feels like the first real discussion I have had with you
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        • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
          Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

          You are telling me that there is no other way for you to learn and grow . Accept for suffering misery and otherwise bad stuff .
          No ― like I mentioned (twice) in my other post ... There are many ways a Person can learn and grow.

          And what happened in the last week or so with you Jon . This feels like the first real discussion I have had with you
          Lol. Well I appreciate most of our discussions: You're a cool Guy.
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          • Profile picture of the author Odahh
            Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

            No ― like I mentioned (twice) in my other post ... There are many ways a Person can learn and grow.
            So there is a person. But how about you Jon

            Are you restricting yourself to what worked in the past.the struggle suffering and adversity
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            • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
              Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

              Are you restricting yourself to what worked in the past.
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              No. All of my past experiences have been important and helpful. It's not about being "restricted" (etc.) from the past .. It's about learning something from it. That said, sometimes it means forgetting about it. Many times the past is in the past and that's where it should stay.
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  • Profile picture of the author Princess Balestra
    All I know is, I got mostly zero control ovah who else been born rn, less so 'bout their opinions, even less so 'bout any powah they might have ovah Moi for whatevah reason existed before I showed.

    This presents me with options 'bout my stance toward the reality in which I find myself ... may even prompt me to question said reality with a view to figurin' better ansahs.

    I would wish this always to be troo, for anywan happens along here.

    As an optimist, likely I figure this thought to sumplace maximally impactful -- sum wiser tamara from offa which more bountiful hooman conflux shimmies.

    Thing is, if what I jus said is troo, it gotta always have been troo -- or truth ain't worth nuthin.

    So how this statement play back when Romans figured the pathway to a perfect life meant killin' Christians alongside their favorite pets in concrete architectural splendor....

    All I know is, I got mostly zero control ovah who else been born rn, less so 'bout their opinions, even less so 'bout any powah they might have ovah Moi for whatevah reason existed before I showed.

    This presents me with options 'bout my stance toward the reality in which I find myself ... may even prompt me to question said reality with a view to figurin' better ansahs.

    Before we got boats -- or any decent tools whatsoevah -- we all moseyin' around in our own backwater, united as a species by our total ignorance of anywan hangin' out more than 100 miles away from our stoopid cave.

    All I know is, I got mostly zero control ovah who else been born rn, less so 'bout their opinions, even less so 'bout any powah they might have ovah Moi for whatevah reason existed before I showed.

    This presents me with options 'bout my stance toward the reality in which I find myself ... may even prompt me to question said reality with a view to figurin' better ansahs.

    It occurs to Moi how we been around for way so long bcs we capable of progressivly smarter self-sparky.

    Strike flint ... prodooce fire.

    Parachute noo people into the history of hoomankind ... generate potential for salvation as problems present 'emselves rn.

    But strike of flint gotta be troo in this regard.

    Let innocence loose on the evidence, mebbe 2030 gonna be sumthin'.

    Stifle outlook an' sully the visible, likely evrywan gonna end up stoopid.
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    Your thoughts about it is good, as for me alos he need be gental and know and show good manners!
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  • Profile picture of the author Nolimihero
    For me it's a strong belief in what you do, and be able to take a responsibility for what you do
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    • Profile picture of the author DWolfe
      Originally Posted by Nolimihero View Post

      For me it's a strong belief in what you do, and be able to take a responsibility for what you do
      Gee that's interesting I know a quite a few woman with strong beliefs and take responsibility for what they do. Does that make them a Man too ?
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      • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
        Originally Posted by DWolfe View Post

        Gee that's interesting I know a quite a few woman with strong beliefs and take responsibility for what they do. Does that make them a Man too ?
        It makes them Women, not girls, as it makes a Man no longer a boy. But we're splitting hairs.

        Due to today's PC culture, the only acceptable answer to the question, "What Does It Mean to Be a Man?" is you were born with a penis or you identify as someone born with a penis.
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          Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

          It makes them Women, not girls, as it makes a Man no longer a boy. But we're splitting hairs.

          Due to today's PC culture, the only acceptable answer to the question, "What Does It Mean to Be a Man?" is you were born with a penis or you identify as someone born with a penis.

          That's so Binary. There is a full spectrum of genders available. And in this way, we can all be special.

          Except you.
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            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            That's so Binary. There is a full spectrum of genders available. And in this way, we can all be special.

            Except you.
            All I know is you can s tell the end of days are near . If you start having real Irish people . Get upset that the Irish sterotype is of a group who likes to drink and fight .

            But then is not people with the condition or situation . She and overly politically correctness focused people see it as their duty to be offended on behalf of others .
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    By the way, men, what's the most effective way to meet women? How do you start new dating? Do you like dating in real or maybe online? I've tried a few times https://www.wantmatures.com/ dating site, but I haven't found a good woman yet.
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    Key that post almost needs to be a post by itself with a sticky .
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    And that is no where close to what the regular examples look like .

    So far it been one of those statements Jon makes with his rose colored glasses on .

    And you responding with an example of someone who probably died or was killed for doing what you point out in the example
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    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
      Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

      So far it been one of those statements Jon makes with his rose colored glasses on
      Lol. Well I think I just like to look on the positive side of things.
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      • Profile picture of the author Odahh
        Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

        Lol. Well I think I just like to look on the positive side of things.
        It comes across more as you only wanting to see positive things .which is why I used the thick rose colored glasses. Metaphor.

        You are a nice person .and most of my arguing with you has been because you stated idea for your dream website . Always sounded to me like you had to heavily plagerize motivational works in order to pull it off.

        In any case I'm moving from Vegas to Florida tonight .with nothing figured out yet. No family .no connections. No jobs lined up yet .don't even know where I will stay after Monday .

        Adventure
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        • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
          Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

          It comes across more as you only wanting to see positive things . . which is why I used the thick rose colored glasses. Metaphor.
          No. I have seen many bad things dealing with my illness. I just decided to focus on the positives.

          You are a nice person .and most of my arguing with you has been because you stated idea for your dream website . Always sounded to me like you had to heavily plagiarize motivational works in order to pull it off.
          Thanks ― well I try to be a "nice" Person. I'm definitely not plagiarizing anything.

          In any case I'm moving from Vegas to Florida tonight .with nothing figured out yet. No family .no connections. No jobs lined up yet .don't even know where I will stay after Monday .

          Adventure
          Cool. Good luck
          : )
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        • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
          P.S.
          My most terrifying experience was "The Giant Scorpion." Basically I had a delusion of having a giant scorpion on the back of my head. Until then I didn't realize that when a Man is literally terrified his screams are more high-pitched than that of a Child or Woman's. According to my Dad I was rolling around on the floor.
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          • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
            Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

            P.S.
            My most terrifying experience was "The Giant Scorpion." Basically I had a delusion of having a giant scorpion on the back of my head. Until then I didn't realize that when a Man is literally terrified his screams are more high-pitched than that of a Child or Woman's. According to my Dad I was rolling around on the floor.
            When Claude & Dan are rolling around on the floor with me threatening them, your right, they let out out really high "Girly" screams. My star sign is the Scorpion and I was born on Halloween.
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  • Profile picture of the author gloriousbach
    Wow - pretty amazing all the different answers that people gave and how the topic has evolved. Being a man has sure become a lot more complicated than in the past - the very fact that so many young men feel they need to ask themselves the question is sad.
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    • Profile picture of the author Odahh
      Originally Posted by gloriousbach View Post

      Wow - pretty amazing all the different answers that people gave and how the topic has evolved. Being a man has sure become a lot more complicated than in the past - the very fact that so many young men feel they need to ask themselves the question is sad.
      It not more complicated .there is just no longer a prescription or trial of proof that was part of society .or probably humanity going back tens of thousands of years .

      The answer is actually pretty easy .have a reliable source of income . Move out of your parents house .and meet the responsibilities you take on.

      If you are living in your parents house you could be 40 and still not be looked at as a grown man.

      But then you could try to redefine what it means to be a man to make yourself feel better
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      • Profile picture of the author gloriousbach
        The reliable source of income isn´t a bad measure in the 1st world but there are plenty of countries where it can be tough to do.

        I think so too. Also the advent of the internet means that men can get guidance on this without having a father figure. Speakers like Jordan Peterson have some interesting things to say on the topic for example.
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      Originally Posted by gloriousbach View Post

      Wow - pretty amazing all the different answers that people gave and how the topic has evolved. Being a man has sure become a lot more complicated than in the past - the very fact that so many young men feel they need to ask themselves the question is sad.

      Life Experiences. We all have different life experiences that influence what we all determine and that is why there are so many different answers and why it can get complicated.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
      Originally Posted by gloriousbach View Post

      Wow - pretty amazing all the different answers that people gave and how the topic has evolved. Being a man has sure become a lot more complicated than in the past - the very fact that so many young men feel they need to ask themselves the question is sad.
      Yeah I think part of it is the World/society we live in today. Don't quote me on that though. Personally I don't see anything wrong with People asking -- it shows that they want to grow/mature/etc.

      2C
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  • Gotta figure the Zaaahmbie Apocalypse gonna even out any kinda gender divide.


    With zero kids to birth, no aspiration demands any kinda recognition, an' no diffrence when it comes to EATIN' BRAINS BRAINS BRAINS between flesh swings offa your breastbone or down between your legs, we all similarly suited to equality's Ground Zero.


    As placebo control experiments go, Zaaahmbie hoomankind is a dream paradise.


    Feel free to factor in your variables at will.
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    I ask my mamma when I was a knee high to a grasshopper, How will I know when I am a man? My mamma said to me, Son, I says Son, When your balls drop, then your on your ways to bein a real man.
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    Be kind, Gentle, sexiness, Lovely and genuine.

    Be patience !!!
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    but i am a gentle man
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    I think being a man means being support and protection for your woman. I try to be just that. Moreover, I started a new relationship with a woman, we met through https://www.tendermeets.com/ site. And we have been dating for 2 months. I think everything will be fine and we will get married
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    It's sad the way things change. Gillete, for example, tailored one campaign to men LONG ago, and as much said it in the related jingle BUT, in the end, all they were saying were that they were the best shaver for men. Whether true or not, it should have offended NOBODY!

    And then they came out with a few campaigns that made a lot of people upset. Basically, they said men are anything BUT what many men are.

    And who ever actually said they were perfect? But there is a LARGE chasm between not being up to the task, and being the antithesis of whatever. I wish everyone were perfect. And I certainly wish I were. But nobody is.

    Anyway, it is sad the way some things have changed.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
      Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

      It's sad the way things change. Gillete, for example, tailored one campaign to men LONG ago, and as much said it in the related jingle BUT, in the end, all they were saying were that they were the best shaver for men. Whether true or not, it should have offended NOBODY!

      And then they came out with a few campaigns that made a lot of people upset. Basically, they said men are anything BUT what many men are.

      And who ever actually said they were perfect? But there is a LARGE chasm between not being up to the task, and being the antithesis of whatever. I wish everyone were perfect. And I certainly wish I were. But nobody is.

      Anyway, it is sad the way some things have changed.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

      It's sad the way things change. Gillete, for example, tailored one campaign to men LONG ago, and as much said it in the related jingle BUT, in the end, all they were saying were that they were the best shaver for men. Whether true or not, it should have offended NOBODY!

      And then they came out with a few campaigns that made a lot of people upset. Basically, they said men are anything BUT what many men are.

      And who ever actually said they were perfect? But there is a LARGE chasm between not being up to the task, and being the antithesis of whatever. I wish everyone were perfect. And I certainly wish I were. But nobody is.

      Anyway, it is sad the way some things have changed.
      Glad to see you back, Steve.
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    For me, I will say that being a man is ability for someone to take full responsibilty, also be able to work out something and be self dependent.
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