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Frog or Lizard and Why ?

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I grew up as a kid who either loved lizards and hated frogs. And vice versa.


Me, Iam a lizard guy. How about you?
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    I like tree frogs and the little lizards..... don't see why it has to be 'either/or'...


    edit: - but I don't like the 'clear' lizard in the deep south...twice my cat caught one of those and it affects the nervous system for a couple days. Cat walked like he was drunk until the toxin was out of his system.


    On the coast I had a high window (6 ft above the floor of the room). The glass was only about 18 in high but the window was about 6 feet in width. Had a lamp that was near that window and at night I'd watch the lizards and the tree frogs moving around on the outside of the glass where the light drew insects. Obviously didn't take much to entertain me....
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    Couple years ago I saw a group of 6 inch to 8 inch lizards in slow motion surround a small frog. The intentions of the lizards was obvious. They formed a tight circle around that frog - perfectly still. The frog sat perfectly still and I am sure ready to jump if one lizard made a move. It was a standoff!


    On the outskirts of the lizards/frog I noticed a group of red ants stealthily sneaking up on the lizards and frog. Boom, a lizard dashed in at the frog and Boom the frog jumped over the group of lizards and landed right in the middle of the fire ants. Game over for the frog.


    As soon as the lizards saw it they all turned and ran away in the opposite direction. They instinctively wanted nothing to do with the fire ants.


    Poor lizards ran straight into a snake.


    The animal kingdom is not only the survival of the fittest.. maybe survival of the smartest.
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    Originally Posted by discrat View Post

    I grew up as a kid who either loved lizards and hated frogs. And vice versa.


    Me, Iam a lizard guy. How about you?
    A group of dinosaurs turned up for a reptile shoot at David Attenborough's house. After 10 minutes he fired the lot of them. Dinosaurs are Terrible Lizards
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      Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

      A group of dinosaurs turned up for a reptile shoot at David Attenborough's house. After 10 minutes he fired the lot of them. Dinosaurs are Terrible Lizards
      How about the other Attenborough and real lizards and snakes? This is one of the most dramatic nature scenes ever...


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        Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

        How about the other Attenborough and real lizards and snakes? This is one of the most dramatic nature scenes ever...


        Iguana vs Snakes | Planet Earth II - YouTube
        Serious question...did anyone watch this? It looks like a scene from an action movie. It's amazing what animals in nature have to do to eat and not be eaten.
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          Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

          Serious question...did anyone watch this? It looks like a scene from an action movie.
          Yes, I well remember that clip. Probably the most amazing piece of footage in any Attenborough documentary, IMO.
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            Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

            Yes, I well remember that clip. Probably the most amazing piece of footage in any Attenborough documentary, IMO.
            Nature is tough. That was a hatchling's welcome to the World. I've seen the full segment and watched this clip probably a dozen times over the years and each time I'm shouting "Run! Run like the wind!".
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            • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
              Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

              I've seen the full segment and watched this clip probably a dozen times over the years and each time I'm shouting "Run! Run like the wind!".
              Me too, although snakes have to eat. It's probably the fact the iguana was so outnumbered and inexperienced that made me root for him. I'll happily cheer on a lion chasing down a zebra.
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                Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

                Me too, although snakes have to eat. It's probably the fact the iguana was so outnumbered and inexperienced that made me root for him. I'll happily cheer on a lion chasing down a zebra.
                I've thought about the snakes too, but it's so hard to root for snakes especially in this case. I think I'm the only person on the planet that roots for hyenas against lions.


                I really enjoy all nature documentaries and especially Attenborough.
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          Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

          Serious question...did anyone watch this? It looks like a scene from an action movie. It's amazing what animals in nature have to do to eat and not be eaten.

          Yes, a few times over the years and it always creeps me out as I hate snakes.


          Another one that I saw on YouTube that I don't have the link to is about lions. A family of male lions controlled a large wild park and was eaten by an invading family of male lions.
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          • Profile picture of the author Kurt
            Originally Posted by Jeffery View Post

            Yes, a few times over the years and it always creeps me out as I hate snakes.


            Another one that I saw on YouTube that I don't have the link to is about lions. A family of male lions controlled a large wild park and was eaten by an invading family of male lions.
            Another great one is this one in Kruger where lions, buffalo and crocs are going at it.


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              Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

              Another great one is this one in Kruger where lions, buffalo and crocs are going at it.


              Battle at Kruger - YouTube
              Spoiler...there was a TV documentary about this video and the guide went back the next day to see if he could find the calf. He didn't find a carcass and said he didn't see any buzzards in the sky in the area so he thinks the calf survived. Amazing.
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                Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

                Spoiler...there was a TV documentary about this video and the guide went back the next day to see if he could find the calf. He didn't find a carcass and said he didn't see any buzzards in the sky in the area so he thinks the calf survived. Amazing.
                There was recently another documentary series by David Attenborough. I think it was Dynasties.

                It was magnificently shot. But I could only watch the first few episodes. I'm a full grown man, but watching animals being attacked...dying....it's too sad to watch.

                I always cheer for the one being chased....or the one being attacked. It's high drama, to be sure.
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

          Serious question...did anyone watch this? It looks like a scene from an action movie. It's amazing what animals in nature have to do to eat and not be eaten.
          I watched the documentary. It's impressive how these people will stay out in the wild for a year...just to get the shots they want. High drama.
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            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            I watched the documentary. It's impressive how these people will stay out in the wild for a year...just to get the shots they want. High drama.
            I saw a documentary about wildlife cameramen and it was pretty much a guy/gal sitting in a tree being eaten by bugs for 3 days hoping a leopard would walk by. We see the highlights of their sacrifices not all the stuff they have to go through to get those shots.

            I was watching an archeology doc with a friend and he asked why I didn't become an archeologist since I was interested in it. I replied that I didn't want to dig holes with a paint brush.
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            • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
              Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

              I saw a documentary about wildlife cameramen and it was pretty much a guy/gal sitting in a tree being eaten by bugs for 3 days hoping a leopard would walk by. We see the highlights of their sacrifices not all the stuff they have to go through to get those shots.

              I was watching an archaeology doc with a friend and he asked why I didn't become an archaeologist since I was interested in it. I replied that I didn't want to dig holes with a paint brush.
              That comment is sexist, racists, and Marxist.

              By the way, I corrected your spelling of Archaeologist and Archaeology.

              Cyber bullying.
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                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                That comment is sexist, racists, and Marxist.

                By the way, I corrected your spelling of Archaeologist and Archaeology.

                Cyber bullying.
                No I'm Marksist, and I have a 5 year plan to plot your demise.
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                  Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

                  No I'm Marksist, and I have a 5 year plan to plot your demise.
                  Why not drive to Wooster today run him down, saves 5 years of plotting his demise.
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                    Originally Posted by DWolfe View Post

                    Why not drive to Wooster today run him down, saves 5 years of plotting his demise.

                    Only trouble with that idea, is his two cats, (2 x 9 = 18 lives).


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                True not a frog or lizard fan, or l don't have a landscape of tall prickles with blue hills and red flowers in my backyard.

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    None of them as both are poisonous
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by Reddevil007 View Post

      None of them as both are poisonous

      Frogs and lizards are poisonous? You need to call every zoo in the world and tell them of the danger you have discovered.
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        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        Frogs and lizards are poisonous? You need to call every zoo in the world and tell them of the danger you have discovered.
        And warn the public not to eat them. Lucky they're not venomous too.
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        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        Frogs and lizards are poisonous? You need to call every zoo in the world and tell them of the danger you have discovered.
        Yep...BTW can you hold some bright, colorful South American frogs for me? And how about a pet gila monster?
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

          Yep...BTW can you hold some bright, colorful South American frogs for me? And how about a pet gila monster?
          Yes. The gila monster is mildly poisonous. One lizard out of 10,000 species.


          Yes, boys and girls, if you are in the Amazon jungle, and you find brightly colored frogs...don't eat them.

          Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

          And warn the public not to eat them. Lucky they're not venomous too.
          There is only one venomous human I can think of.

          Kurt Melvin.

          And Dan Riffle isn't venomous. But he's not venomous in the same way skunks aren't venomous.
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            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            Yes. The gila monster is mildly poisonous. One lizard out of 10,000 species.


            Yes, boys and girls, if you are in the Amazon jungle, and you find brightly colored frogs...don't eat them.



            There is only one venomous human I can think of.

            Kurt Melvin.

            And Dan Riffle isn't venomous. But he's not venomous in the same way skunks aren't venomous.
            Yep...the OP's post included all frogs and lizards...and your post implied exclusion of all frogs and lizards. You're were both wrong.

            BTW, there are some that now consider Komodo dragons as venomous and don't only rely on bacteria to infect their prey.
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              Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

              Yep...the OP's post included all frogs and lizards...and your post implied exclusion of all frogs and lizards. You're were both wrong.

              BTW, there are some that now consider Komodo dragons as venomous and don't only rely on bacteria to infect their prey.
              The Komodo in the SS's restroom is full of deadly bacteria.
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            • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
              Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

              Yep...the OP's post included all frogs and lizards...and your post implied exclusion of all frogs and lizards. You're were both wrong.
              You assume that I implied "all frogs and lizards". Your assumption is not based on facts, but is based on an assumption. In fact, it's just an implied assumption. And that's a fact.


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            • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
              Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

              BTW, there are some that now consider Komodo dragons as venomous and don't only rely on bacteria to infect their prey.
              Yup. Never...ever...tell a Komodo Dragon that she is not venomous. ...or that she is fat.
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                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                Yup. Never...ever...tell a Komodo Dragon that she is not venomous. ...or that she is fat.
                Hmmmm...after a little research (30 seconds) there's actually a few more venomous lizards. In addition to gila monsters and Komodo dragons there's also beaded lizards and some species of iguanas. I just wish the iguanas you had growing up were the venomous ones...

                So the count has risen from Claude's zero venomous lizards, not even counting frogs, to at least 5 depending on how many species of iguanas are venomous and since the article uses plural we know it's two or more species of iguanas.

                https://www.thewildlifemuseum.org/ex...omous-lizards/
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        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        Frogs and lizards are poisonous? You need to call every zoo in the world and tell them of the danger you have discovered.
        Should have mentioned some


        It's just that the topic does not interest me and that I have turned into a veggie maybe thats the reason why!
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  • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
    Originally Posted by discrat View Post

    I grew up as a kid who either loved lizards and hated frogs. And vice versa.


    Me, Iam a lizard guy. How about you?
    For whatever reason, when I was a kid, I enjoyed having a couple of iguanas as pets.

    Snakes are a turn off for most people, and I don't really like them either. No idea why. Maybe because they can't blink.. But lizards have limbs, can blink, and look less alien than snakes.

    Frogs? Never interested me. I also had a few Bearded Dragons several years ago. Very tame, easy to feed. But the crickets they ate had mites that I found out was severely allergic to. So I eventually had to give the little Dragons away.

    The good news about the Bearded Dragons was that they didn't get me up at 5AM every morning to feed them, and sharpen their claws on the furniture. But a cat that sits in your lap, sleeping away the evening? A real treat.
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    They both taste like chicken.
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    tbh I would much prefer this to be a pooch or pussy? question, but I guess we gotta cut sum slack for reptilian & amphibian horrors.


    Question is, whicha these cold-blooded monstahs do I want leapin' onto my stomach from outta noplace as I bask out on the beach?


    Sum way hostile lizard gonna dig its claws into my navel?


    Or a cold, squishy frog gonna schlap down like a third boobie an' quiver grotesquely?


    Hmmm ... gotta say my enthoosiasm (muted though it may be, like it figured stringin' up a noose an' kickin' away the chair offered HOPE) looks to be runnin' with lizards rn.


    That help?
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    Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

    Yep...the OP's post included all frogs and lizards...and your post implied exclusion of all frogs and lizards. You're were both wrong.

    BTW, there are some that now consider Komodo dragons as venomous and don't only rely on bacteria to infect their prey.
    Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

    You assume that I implied "all frogs and lizards". Your assumption is not based on facts, but is based on an assumption. In fact, it's just an implied assumption. And that's a fact.


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    Factually incorrect. I assumed you implied NO frogs and lizards. Not you assumed I assumed you assumed "all frogs and lizards".
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      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      Factually incorrect. I assumed you implied NO frogs and lizards. Not you assumed I assumed you assumed "all frogs and lizards".

      Maybe you guys need to get up at dawn, with Cane Toads at 20 paces?

      Claude has promised not to catch any orally.

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      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      Factually incorrect. I assumed you implied NO frogs and lizards. Not you assumed I assumed you assumed "all frogs and lizards".
      Factually double incorrect. Had you actually assumed that I was implying that "all frogs and lizards" were NOT poisonous....you would not have used a double negative.

      Correctly, I was stating that not all lizards and frogs were poisonous. Your lack of understanding..your completely baseless assumptions....your lack of rational discourse...has led me to the certainty that you have indeed killed Kurt Melvin (probably justified), and taken his place. So far, nobody has noticed, because Kurt Melvin has no friends.

      To prove you are truly Kurt, just cut off your finger and mail it to me for verification.

      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      Let's just cane Claude.

      Something a lizard person would say. Obviously.
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        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        Factually double incorrect. Had you actually assumed that I was implying that "all frogs and lizards" were NOT poisonous....you would not have used a double negative.

        Correctly, I was stating that not all lizards and frogs were poisonous. Your lack of understanding..your completely baseless assumptions....your lack of rational discourse...has led me to the certainty that you have indeed killed Kurt Melvin (probably justified), and taken his place. So far, nobody has noticed, because Kurt Melvin has no friends.

        To prove you are truly Kurt, just cut off your finger and mail it to me for verification.
        No need. I give you the finger every time I see your pic on the Net.
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    Male lizards and aliens do not have fingers, so cut off..?


    BTW, I didn't create lizards and male aliens until Sunday when everyone was told I was taking a day off.
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      Originally Posted by Jeffery View Post

      Male lizards and aliens do not have fingers, so cut off..?


      BTW, I didn't create lizards and male aliens until Sunday when everyone was told I was taking a day off.
      Any way you slice it, you'll need to talk to a mohel about that...
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      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
        Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

        Any way you slice it, you'll need to talk to a mohel about that...
        Lizards have a cloaca, you pea brained sycophant.

        Although, full disclosure, I have tried circumcising lizards before. No matter how hard I try to explain to them "It's just research, not personal", they don't believe me.


        Originally Posted by innateseo View Post

        I say frogs because they're so unpredictable, they might jump at any moment and they're so quick it's crazy.
        As a scientist, I can tell you that frogs see things that we do not. They have over 500 senses, see in multiple dimensions, speak several languages at birth, and perceive time as one event.

        Anyway, I interviewed a frog once, and that's what he told me. He was an old wise frog. I was sorry to hear that a week after we talked, he croaked.

        And never...NEVER call a frog crazy. Just a word to the wise.
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    I say frogs because they're so unpredictable, they might jump at any moment and they're so quick it's crazy.
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    Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

    Lizards have a cloaca, you pea brained sycophant.

    Although, full disclosure, I have tried circumcising lizards before. No matter how hard I try to explain to them "It's just research, not personal", they don't believe me.

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    Certainly better than moonlighting as a Gynecologist!

    You are welcome Kurt.


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    I guess Frogs

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2gzM0xdHNo

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    Why a frog or lizard?

    Haven't you heard? Bird is the word.

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    I don't like both and I just hate both.
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    Originally Posted by discrat View Post

    I grew up as a kid who either loved lizards and hated frogs. And vice versa.


    Me, Iam a lizard guy. How about you?
    I'm not a fan of either.

    They seem similar,no?
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