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Superstitious?

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I might be a little superstitious though I have always put very little weight on it.

Example: When I look at a clock and the time is 10:10, 11:11 etc. I consider it good luck - sorta -kinda in a light way if you know what I mean.

Are you superstitious in any way?
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  • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
    Originally Posted by Jeffery View Post

    I might be a little superstitious though I have always put very little weight on it.

    Example: When I look at a clock and the time is 10:10, 11:11 etc. I consider it good luck - sorta -kinda in a light way if you know what I mean.

    Are you superstitious in any way?
    I don't have any, touch wood
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  • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
    Originally Posted by Jeffery View Post

    I might be a little superstitious though I have always put very little weight on it.

    Example: When I look at a clock and the time is 10:10, 11:11 etc. I consider it good luck - sorta -kinda in a light way if you know what I mean.

    Are you superstitious in any way?
    I don't think most people would consider their irrational beliefs superstitions.

    To me, a date like 12/12/2012 is just a way to remember the date.

    Although, for years I woke up at 7:11 AM. and I thought it was a tad funny. It also amazed me that my internal clock could be that accurate.

    But I was raised with old wives tales and superstition being the science of our family.

    I think I got rid of it all, but who knows.

    I do however have habits that are so ingrained that I do them unconsciously as a reflex.

    I check my wallet hundreds of times a day ((to make sure it's there). When I used to fly, I would check my ticket and schedule every 10 minutes for no real reason.

    Not really superstitions, because there was no thought as I did it.

    But it's hard to read the label on the bottle when you are inside the bottle.
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      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

      I don't think most people would consider their irrational beliefs superstitions.

      To me, a date like 12/12/2012 is just a way to remember the date.

      Although, for years I woke up at 7:11 AM. and I thought it was a tad funny. It also amazed me that my internal clock could be that accurate.

      But I was raised with old wives tales and superstition being the science of our family.

      I think I got rid of it all, but who knows.

      I do however have habits that are so ingrained that I do them unconsciously as a reflex.

      I check my wallet hundreds of times a day ((to make sure it's there). When I used to fly, I would check my ticket and schedule every 10 minutes for no real reason.

      Not really superstitions, because there was no thought as I did it.

      But it's hard to read the label on the bottle when you are inside the bottle.
      C,mon Claude stop faking it, you have always woken up at 5.59 am,...that is onr of the biggest fib;s that has been uttered from your lips,...(chapped lips).

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    • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

      I don't think most people would consider their irrational beliefs superstitions.

      To me, a date like 12/12/2012 is just a way to remember the date.

      Although, for years I woke up at 7:11 AM. and I thought it was a tad funny. It also amazed me that my internal clock could be that accurate.

      But I was raised with old wives tales and superstition being the science of our family.

      I think I got rid of it all, but who knows.

      I do however have habits that are so ingrained that I do them unconsciously as a reflex.

      I check my wallet hundreds of times a day ((to make sure it's there). When I used to fly, I would check my ticket and schedule every 10 minutes for no real reason.

      Not really superstitions, because there was no thought as I did it.

      But it's hard to read the label on the bottle when you are inside the bottle.
      "Although, for years I woke up at 7:11 AM. and I thought it was a tad funny"

      Nothing strange about that, it was a sugar dependency wake up call to go to your local 7/11 store to get your morning fix of coffee and donuts.
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      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post


      I do however have habits that are so ingrained that I do them unconsciously as a reflex.

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      Like taking a stab at that last Hoagie in the fridge
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    When I approach any door, I always stand a whole foot furthah back than prolly I should, which means I gotta reach forward a long way to work the handle.


    Why so?


    I told a real bad lie at school one day an' figured my nose would grow, jus' like Pinocchio's.


    An' I don't wanna bash it noplace.


    Stoopid thing is, this don't apply to drinkin' wine or smoochyin' out.


    Jus' doors.


    Gotta figure tho if'n I invite a vampire across my threshold I got a head start.
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    Originally Posted by Jeffery View Post

    I might be a little superstitious though I have always put very little weight on it.

    Example: When I look at a clock and the time is 10:10, 11:11 etc. I consider it good luck - sorta -kinda in a light way if you know what I mean.

    Are you superstitious in any way?
    only reason i care i look at the clock at 11:11..hey if my clock was set for military time maybe i would care is i looked and it said 22:22 ..numerologically those are power numbers and i guess there is significance they show up in pairs ..you only notice if you are taught to notice..when many people don't give a ...

    we create out personal realities ..so if these thing matter or we play to superstition.. its because maybe we feel we get more control over .. or things not in our control .. so maybe if i do a dance before and put the luck pendent in the right spot .. and turn around three time .. and say the same prayer 4 times .. before going anywhere things will go great ..
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  • Profile picture of the author Matthew Stanley
    Definitely in the Michael Scott camp of "not super-stitious, but a little bit stitious."

    At times it can appear boderline compulsive, but on the other hand I'm a firm believer in the power of random/recurring things that (rationally or irrationally) cue expectations of good things on the horizon
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    I think everyone has some mild form of OCD. When I was a kid, I really needed both light switches to "align" on the same spot for some reason.

    I probably still have some quirks, but whatever works right?
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  • Profile picture of the author Profit Traveler
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    Probably the term "jinx"....talking or thinking negative then it materializes....talking too positive and over confident then get the opposite outcome. Expecting something to happen a certain way because it always did and soon as you expect it on autopilot boom...does not happen as expected.


    Walking with your sweetheart and not splitting poles or people...stay on same side haha.
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  • Profile picture of the author spartan14
    I dont think in superstitions but i think in law of atraction , magic etc
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      I dont think in superstitions but i think in law of atraction , magic etc

      What model Wand do you use?
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    many folks are becoming the prey for the superstition across the globe.
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    • Profile picture of the author Profit Traveler
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      Originally Posted by Manju S View Post

      many folks are becoming the prey for the superstition across the globe.

      Ohhhh you made me think of the guy that came to my friends house when I was in California to clean the house of SPIRITS. I was shocked. Not because my friend is crazy....but because the guy was driving a Ferrari.
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      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
        Originally Posted by Profit Traveler View Post

        Ohhhh you made me think of the guy that came to my friends house when I was in California to clean the house of SPIRITS. I was shocked. Not because my friend is crazy....but because the guy was driving a Ferrari.
        Nearly everyone I know is bright, kind, and generous.

        But if you ask enough questions, you'll find at least one nonsensical belief.

        My brother-in-law is absolutely sure that he has seen ghosts. He even has photos of them. And saying "It's a reflection in a window" just makes him angry.

        It's interesting to study how the mind works, and how we defend our beliefs...and how they are immune from questioning.
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      • Profile picture of the author Odahh
        Originally Posted by Profit Traveler View Post

        Ohhhh you made me think of the guy that came to my friends house when I was in California to clean the house of SPIRITS. I was shocked. Not because my friend is crazy....but because the guy was driving a Ferrari.
        there is quite a bit of money in the spiritual ..if i ever really get into the market gardening stuff.. i will add all kinds of spiritual extras that increase what people will pay for produce ..but you have to be willing to play the game ..

        priest and shamans where the first masters of marketing .. and at this point you have more people who have a range of spiritual beliefs that are sort of thrown together .. than have traditional religious practices .. are are not uneducated or poor ..

        why is Vegas putting money into reconstructing according to Feng shui ..it to Appeal to the millions of very Rich asian who drop a lot of money when they Gamble .. vegas is competing for high end Asian gamblers with Macau..
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

          priest and shamans where the first masters of marketing .. and at this point you have more people who have a range of spiritual beliefs that are sort of thrown together .. than have traditional religious practices .. are are not uneducated or poor ..
          In an interview, Derren Brown was talking about training he gave to people wanting to learn Cold Reading for telling fortunes. He said that he taught how to ask the right questions to get the right responses, to give the illusion that he had insights that were supernatural. He said (amazingly) that about a third of the people taking his training really believed in what they were doing, even though his training was on techniques to fool people. They just thought the training would make them better at what they were doing.

          People interested in Tarot cards and palmistry often consider it a serious study. And believe what they say.

          Because of that and beliefs in the supernatural..which many perfectly intelligent rational people believe in...I can only assume that these thoughts are produced in a different part of the brain than actual rational thinking.

          The reason I think that is that I've found that reasoning doesn't connect at all with these kind of beliefs...and yet works perfectly well with just about any other subject.

          Just as there are very specific areas of the brain that deal with math, there may be areas of the brain that are specific to many belief patterns.

          An interesting aside. It's possible to induce a strong magnetic field in part of a person's brain to render part of their brain inert. By doing this, you can induce a state of mind identical to the way a psychopath thinks. It's been done in the lab. In fact, they can shut off areas of the brain to see how that affects memory, behavior, personality, instinctual drives. It's also possible (because it's been done) to activate (with an electromagnetic charge) an area of the brain that induces an illusion that you are not alone, and that there is a presence with you, even if you are perfectly alone. An interesting study.

          To me, anyway.

          Added later; I just got done watching a video on Youtube with AwakenwithJP. it was on Youtube deleting videos. JP is a comedian and a satirist. The video was a joke. But the comments were nearly all from conspiracy theorists, saying that what he was saying was true.

          It dawned on me that Youtube takes the language of the video, creates a transcript and uses the words as search terms. So even though it's a joke. It's being seen by people who take it seriously.

          Humans.
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          • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            In an interview, Derren Brown was talking about training he gave to people wanting to learn Cold Reading for telling fortunes. He said that he taught how to ask the right questions to get the right responses, to give the illusion that he had insights that were supernatural. He said (amazingly) that about a third of the people taking his training really believed in what they were doing, even though his training was on techniques to fool people. They just thought the training would make them better at what they were doing.

            People interested in Tarot cards and palmistry often consider it a serious study. And believe what they say.

            Because of that and beliefs in the supernatural..which many perfectly intelligent rational people believe in...I can only assume that these thoughts are produced in a different part of the brain than actual rational thinking.

            The reason I think that is that I've found that reasoning doesn't connect at all with these kind of beliefs...and yet works perfectly well with just about any other subject.

            Just as there are very specific areas of the brain that deal with math, there may be areas of the brain that are specific to many belief patterns.

            An interesting aside. It's possible to induce a strong magnetic field in part of a person's brain to render part of their brain inert. By doing this, you can induce a state of mind identical to the way a psychopath thinks. It's been done in the lab. In fact, they can shut off areas of the brain to see how that affects memory, behavior, personality, instinctual drives. It's also possible (because it's been done) to activate (with an electromagnetic charge) an area of the brain that induces an illusion that you are not alone, and that there is a presence with you, even if you are perfectly alone. An interesting study.

            To me, anyway.

            Added later; I just got done watching a video on Youtube with AwakenwithJP. it was on Youtube deleting videos. JP is a comedian and a satirist. The video was a joke. But the comments were nearly all from conspiracy theorists, saying that what he was saying was true.

            It dawned on me that Youtube takes the language of the video, creates a transcript and uses the words as search terms. So even though it's a joke. It's being seen by people who take it seriously.

            Humans.
            So, are you suggesting that the magnetic field of the Earth is responsible for all of it's inhabitants over a thousand years plus of written history (disregarding mistaken identity, natural phenomenon, madness etc) "experiences" alleged hallucinations and being responsible for feelings of not being alone. That would suggest that it's distribution is uneven then and more concentrated in certain area's, because we do not have these experiences and feelings all the time. It's a good idea/theory for you to expand on in your debunking quest though.

            Except that with Pre Electronic photography and CGI, there are quite a lot of photographs and analog film and video that have captured what people are allegedly seeing and sometimes what they are not seeing. Analog film and negatives are far more difficult to fake than Charge Coupling device taken pictures.

            It is all very well being the armchair scientist that you are, but you cite people like Derren Brown and lab experiments that turn up the area's of the brain to launch hallucinations etc, how does it equate with everyday life and indiscriminate experiences within it? it does not.
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            • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
              Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

              So, are you suggesting that the magnetic field of the Earth is responsible for all of it's inhabitants over a thousand years plus of written history (disregarding mistaken identity, natural phenomenon, madness etc) "experiences" alleged hallucinations and being responsible for feelings of not being alone.
              No. The Earth's magnetic field isn't that strong. The magnetic field generated in the brain experiments was far stronger than a CAT scanner. Hundreds of thousands of times stronger than Earth's magnetic field. And even then, the magnetic field inducer (hand held) had to be held against the skull to get the effect. That's why even a CAT scanner won't affect your brain synapses .



              Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

              It is all very well being the armchair scientist that you are, but you cite people like Derren Brown and lab experiments that turn up the area's of the brain to launch hallucinations etc, how does it equate with everyday life and indiscriminate experiences within it? it does not.
              No it doesn't equate at all. One is a tested science experiment that consistently delivers the same result...the other is not.

              The point was that the brain can create different experiences depending on the health of the brain, injuries, disease, or an outside influence (Like drugs or the magnetic field generator).
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              • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                No. The Earth's magnetic field isn't that strong. The magnetic field generated in the brain experiments was far stronger than a CAT scanner. Hundreds of thousands of times stronger than Earth's magnetic field. And even then, the magnetic field inducer (hand held) had to be held against the skull to get the effect. That's why even a CAT scanner won't affect your brain synapses .





                No it doesn't equate at all. One is a tested science experiment that consistently delivers the same result...the other is not.

                The point was that the brain can create different experiences depending on the health of the brain, injuries, disease, or an outside influence (Like drugs or the magnetic field generator).
                According to this Fox report from 2018, 60 percent of Americans claim to have seen a ghost. https://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/60...ve-seen-ghosts

                So 192,000,000 Americans claim to have seen a ghost. So, discounting the usual suspects of misinterpretation of natural phenomenon, lying to themselves or others, madness, religious fervor, brain malfunction or drugs etc, out of all these people, do you not agree that a sizable amount are sensible, honest and intelligent, normal and not prone to any of the conditions mentioned above. What percentage would you think that amounts too if so?
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                • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                  Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

                  According to this Fox report from 2018, 60 percent of Americans claim to have seen a ghost. https://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/60...ve-seen-ghosts
                  I would have guessed it as higher than that. For example 80% of Americans believe angels are real. In America, maybe 95% believe in a deity. Maybe 95% believe that we don't really die, but somehow survive after death.

                  Remember when I said (years ago) that I saw my father after he died? Plain as day. There he was right in front of me. Of course, that wasn't really him, it was a coat rack and shadows. But my brain created the image because he was important to me. But to 99% of the population, this experience would have constituted proof that ghosts exist. So I understand why the belief is popular. It may even serve an unconscious need we have.


                  Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

                  do you not agree that a sizable amount are sensible, honest and intelligent, normal and not prone to any of the conditions mentioned above. What percentage would you think that amounts too if so?
                  I think that believing in ghosts has nothing to do with your sanity, intelligence, honesty, or gullibility.


                  It has an enormous amount to do with what you were taught to believe as a child, and what you family believes, what your culture teaches, and what your religion teaches. In other words, where you were born.

                  All of which has nothing to do with whether ghosts are real or not.

                  Again, I think that all of these beliefs are stored in a different part of the brain that the rational thinking process. To me, that's the only way to explain how a sane person can hold a fanciful belief when all evidence and reason points to the contrary. (or at least to a different conclusion) I may be wrong about that, but I don't now how else to explain this phenomenon.

                  Stating the percentage (or number) of people that believe something isn't a rational argument. In fact, it's a trap. It even has a Latin name (as all logical fallacies do) Argumentum ad populum

                  For example "95% of the people cannot be wrong". Of course they can. It happens all the time. Every culture is rich with superstitions that were widely believed by nearly everyone, and yet were shown to be way off.

                  People who believed in Leprechauns had stories of leprechaun sightings, conversations with leprechauns, and they were almost universally believed. In fact, if someone said "But there is no rational way that they could exist', that person would be shunned from their society. Cultural beliefs (religious and otherwise) are the pillars that hold society together.

                  And not sharing these beliefs makes you a threat. I speak from experience.

                  Remember when it was universally believed that you had to wait 30 minutes after you ate to go into the water?

                  When I was a kid...everyone believed that. Utter nonsense. But I wonder how many still believe that old wives tale.
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                    Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                    I would have guessed it as higher than that. For example 80% of Americans believe angels are real. In America, maybe 95% believe in a deity. Maybe 95% believe that we don't really die, but somehow survive after death.

                    Remember when I said (years ago) that I saw my father after he died? Plain as day. There he was right in front of me. Of course, that wasn't really him, it was a coat rack and shadows. But my brain created the image because he was important to me. But to 99% of the population, this experience would have constituted proof that ghosts exist. So I understand why the belief is popular. It may even serve an unconscious need we have.




                    I think that believing in ghosts has nothing to do with your sanity, intelligence, honesty, or gullibility.


                    It has an enormous amount to do with what you were taught to believe as a child, and what you family believes, what your culture teaches, and what your religion teaches. In other words, where you were born.

                    All of which has nothing to do with whether ghosts are real or not.

                    Again, I think that all of these beliefs are stored in a different part of the brain that the rational thinking process. To me, that's the only way to explain how a sane person can hold a fanciful belief when all evidence and reason points to the contrary. (or at least to a different conclusion) I may be wrong about that, but I don't now how else to explain this phenomenon.

                    Stating the percentage (or number) of people that believe something isn't a rational argument. In fact, it's a trap. It even has a Latin name (as all logical fallacies do) Argumentum ad populum

                    For example "95% of the people cannot be wrong". Of course they can. It happens all the time. Every culture is rich with superstitions that were widely believed by nearly everyone, and yet were shown to be way off.

                    People who believed in Leprechauns had stories of leprechaun sightings, conversations with leprechauns, and they were almost universally believed. In fact, if someone said "But there is no rational way that they could exist', that person would be shunned from their society. Cultural beliefs (religious and otherwise) are the pillars that hold society together.

                    And not sharing these beliefs makes you a threat. I speak from experience.
                    I still cannot conceive that all of 196,000,000 people are getting it wrong all of the time, despite there gullibility and upbringing etc. and course we can increase that number exponentially taking into account the rest of the world's figures and taking it back around 1,000 years of recorded history.

                    Although, no problem using the US population as a representative sample. Let's assume that some of them are actually seeing "something" and if they are recording it on a film camera as well, all the better, if multiple people in a group are seeing it too, all the better again. So what would they be seeing?

                    Just watched a video of ghostly clip compilation, will not bother to post as I'm sure you will not watch it. It is a collection of ghosts and UFO's etc, captured on tape.

                    Two very interesting ones. The first is an EVP captured (voice only), very clear where a female says "Help me, I'm drowning, can't breathe" Then you hear a grunt in a males voice and the sound of splashing water. This was recorded in a abandoned sanatorium of the past where I suspect, unsavory practices went on, no electricity. The second was filmed at Gettysburg where a big battle went on in the civil war. A ghostly figure is seen crouching behind a tree so the tree partially obscuring it, then it leaps out from behind the tree and disappears. In a second recording of that spot taken at a later date. The same ghostly image does "exactly" the same thing.

                    Given that in the EVP we had the water sound, not just the voices. And the ghostly figure did exactly the same thing in two separate, recordings and many other instances of this behavior have been recorded in ghostly sightings. One might conclude that many of these captured ones are just observed as a playback. Perhaps imprinted by trauma.

                    How this occurs, can be created and tripped, currently is unknown to science if it is so. However, it does "suggest" that possibly a high amount of the ghosts seen are probably not the spirits of the dead at all and the explanation is not paranormal, but one that is down to Earth and eventually be explained.

                    It would be better to perhaps consider it a natural mechanism unknown to science as yet, rather that to condemn 60 percent appx of the human race going back 1000 years as all being mistaken, all of the time.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                      Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

                      I still cannot conceive that all of 196,000,000 people are getting it wrong all of the time, despite there gullibility and upbringing etc.
                      I know you can't. But it happens all the time. And again, you are using the logical fallacy Argumentum ad populum.
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                      • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
                        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                        I know you can't. But it happens all the time. And again, you are using the logical fallacy Argumentum ad populum.
                        "argumentum ad populum (Latin for "appeal to the people") is a fallacious argument that concludes that a proposition must be true because many or most people believe it, often concisely encapsulated as: "If many believe so, it is so"."

                        You are assuming universal prior "belief" when you counter with this. Has it not occurred to you that a percentage of these people had no prior belief or expectations. To witness and experience something like this, to film it or just report may or may not change their mind afterwards. They may choose to become more open minded or completely deny what they have seen as impossible based on prior conditioning etc.
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                        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                          Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

                          "argumentum ad populum (Latin for "appeal to the people") is a fallacious argument that concludes that a proposition must be true because many or most people believe it, often concisely encapsulated as: "If many believe so, it is so"."

                          You are assuming universal prior "belief" when you counter with this. Has it not occurred to you that a percentage of these people had no prior belief or expectations. .
                          The term "argumentum ad populum" didn't apply to them. It applied to you. It was your argument, not theirs, that I referred to.

                          I even said "you are using the logical fallacy Argumentum ad populum."
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                            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                            The term "argumentum ad populum" didn't apply to them. It applied to you. It was your argument, not theirs, that I replied to.
                            You are pretty good at skirting around the issue. You should move into politics. Become a Political Scientist.

                            I do not really entertain the words, belief or faith where this is concerned. I have seen an apparition of my grandmother appear in a lighted doorway when I was seven, shortly after her death. I have seen on several occasions a bright light apparition appearing to a group of us on an eight mile stretch of road, photographed it, and it followed us up and down the road. A strong flashlight was shone on it which would preclude it from being a car or motorcycle headlight.

                            So, based on subjective and photographic evidence first hand, I have seen some things that should not exist, in the second case, it was a group experience. As to it's interpretation as to whatever they are. I can choose to to adopt beliefs or theories if I so wish but am open to alternative explanations. One of which I put forward in the text above.

                            I am not really clear cut on anything of this nature, just open to the concept that it may exist and needs to be explained.
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                            • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                              Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

                              You are pretty good at skirting around the issue. You should move into politics. Become a Political Scientist..
                              I'm not skirting the issue at all. In every case, I'm directly answering something you said. The answers are just irritating to you, so you say I'm "skirting the issue".

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                              I have seen an apparition of my grandmother appear in a lighted doorway when I was seven, shortly after her death. .
                              And I saw my dead father shortly after he died, as I posted earlier. So? It was a trick my mind played on me....as I stated earlier. Are you open to the idea that your brain was just creating an illusion, because you missed your grandmother?




                              Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

                              I am not really clear cut on anything of this nature, just open to the concept that it may exist and needs to be explained.
                              Are you open the the idea that you may be wrong? That these are either optical illusions, tricks the brain is playing on you, or naturally occurring events that perfectly fit with the laws of physics?

                              Every time I hear the term "open minded" it's because I don't agree with something you say. But the truth is, I'm open minded.

                              In fact, I don't even ask for evidence or proof. Just one cohesive argument would do. A couple of paragraphs that aren't riddled with mistakes in reasoning.

                              This is why I recommend you read one book on how to reason. It would allow you to make your arguments stronger.
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                                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                                I'm not skirting the issue at all. I'm providing a rational post that is irritating to you.



                                And I saw my dead father shortly after he died, as I posted earlier. So? It was a trick my mind played on me....as I stated earlier. Are you open to the idea that your brain was just creating an illusion, because you missed your grandmother?






                                Are you open the the idea that you may be wrong? That these are either optical illusions, tricks the brain is playing on you, or naturally occurring events that perfectly fit with the laws of physics?

                                Every time I hear the term "open minded" it's because I don't agree with something you say. But the truth is, I'm open minded.

                                In fact, I don't even ask for evidence or proof. Just one cohesive argument would do. A couple of paragraphs that aren't riddled with mistakes in reasoning.
                                I see you concentrated on my Grandmother one, predictable. As to the second one, seen on 4 occasion's by multiple people, photographed, flashlight trained on it to show if it was a car, motorcycle or person standing there with a light, which was not the case. And then it re-appears behind you, in front of you, keeping pace with your car travelling over 40 mph. Intelligent Swamp gas with an engine perhaps.

                                I did not find it scary or threatening, just interesting, and stood there snapping away with my camera. Results, some of which I put on this blogspot site for you lot years ago to look at, still up.

                                Bragg Road Ghostlight Pictures.
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                                  Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

                                  Interesting photos. There's nothing in them that screams (geddit?) out ghost to me, although I'll admit I'm buggered if I know what it is.
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                                    Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

                                    Interesting photos. There's nothing in them that screams (geddit?) out ghost to me, although I'll admit I'm buggered if I know what it is.
                                    To the naked eye, this appeared as a single bright point of light. The shutter speed made it look like it was elongated and forming different shapes. It must have been moving fast though. The best description to the naked eye would be that it was a lantern light, but an old one not powered by batteries. You can see it moves to the left and right side of the road.

                                    On this road, this light has been seen for over 100 years. A railway track is not too far away and a story goes that a man carrying a lantern was decapitated by a train, so he walks around looking for his head. Romantic huh. :-)

                                    My ex wife's boss used to live in the area (Saratoga, TX) Surprisingly he only saw it once. It approached their parked car and then shot straight up in the air. This is how we got to hear about it.
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      Originally Posted by Manju S View Post

      many folks are becoming the prey for the superstition across the globe.
      You realize yours was the 13th post in this thread?
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        Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

        You realize yours was the 13th post in this thread?
        I applaud you, sir.
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    There was a movie where some people got stuck in the old haunted asylum where The Doctor had tortured and "ended" all the mental patients.



    Would you stay over night there?
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      Originally Posted by Profit Traveler View Post

      There was a movie where some people got stuck in the old haunted asylum where The Doctor had tortured and "ended" all the mental patients.



      Would you stay over night there?
      Not if the doctor was still in residence.
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      Originally Posted by Profit Traveler View Post

      There was a movie where some people got stuck in the old haunted asylum where The Doctor had tortured and "ended" all the mental patients.



      Would you stay over night there?
      Let's go a step further. There are movies like The Haunting. The House On Haunted Hill (and its remake), and the worst haunted house movies that scare us terribly.

      I want to stay there.

      i want to spend the night in the room in the movie 1408.



      It would be a dream come true.
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        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        Let's go a step further. There are movies like The Haunting. The House On Haunted Hill (and its remake), and the worst haunted house movies that scare us terribly.

        I want to stay there.

        i want to spend the night in the room in the movie 1408.



        It would be a dream come true.
        I remember an episode of one of these ghost hunting documentaries (Ghost Adventures). Three or four cocky young guys went to a different place each week and were actually locked in for the night.

        Most of the time not much happened or not enough to really freak them out. Except in one episode where they were filming and in a wired enclosed area in the basement a brick lifted up and moved across the enclosure by itself.

        In that episode they exited through a window.

        We will have to come up with some likely places to lock you away for the night. "Lock you away" has a good ring to it. :-)
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          Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

          I remember an episode of one of these ghost hunting documentaries (Ghost Adventures). Three or four cocky young guys went to a different place each week and were actually locked in for the night.

          Most of the time not much happened or not enough to really freak them out. Except in one episode where they were filming and in a wired enclosed area in the basement a brick lifted up and moved across the enclosure by itself.
          I used to have a friend that watched the "ghost hunter" type shows. He kept telling me that he saw, live on air, a knife flying through the kitchen...or a chair levitate. He was convinced that the camera was actually there, capturing the event as it happened.

          I told him they were re-enactments based on stories told. (as it said at the beginning of every episode) He was still convinced that it was real. "Based on real events" in ghost stories means that it is based on a story that was really told, not real events.The event was reading the story.




          Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

          You want a real shiver up yer spine?

          Try spending a night in Claude's basement.
          You were drugged. It was four years.
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          • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            I used to have a friend that watched the "ghost hunter" type shows. He kept telling me that he saw, live on air, a knife flying through the kitchen...or a chair levitate. He was convinced that the camera was actually there, capturing the event as it happened.

            I told him they were re-enactments based on stories told. (as it said at the beginning of every episode) He was still convinced that it was real. "Based on real events" in ghost stories means that it is based on a story that was really told, not real events.The event was reading the story.






            You were drugged. It was four years.
            Some are I agree, but they are obvious, but some like Ghost Hunters and Ghost Adventures etc pro port to be recorded live (at the time) by the investigators.

            But, sadly, thanks to CGI or pressure from the TV companies wanting something to happen for the entertainment value. The investigators are at least mostly a legit group who start out with the best of intentions but get pressured to fake something. In Ghosthunters one of the principal ones left over it.
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      • Profile picture of the author Profit Traveler
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        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        Let's go a step further. There are movies like The Haunting. The House On Haunted Hill (and its remake), and the worst haunted house movies that scare us terribly.

        I want to stay there.

        i want to spend the night in the room in the movie 1408.



        It would be a dream come true.
        Thing is alot of people may not see a ghost over night but a fat rat falling thru a hole in the ceiling to the floor next to you in the dark could induce heart attack.
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      Originally Posted by Profit Traveler View Post

      There was a movie where some people got stuck in the old haunted asylum where The Doctor had tortured and "ended" all the mental patients.



      Would you stay over night there?
      You want a real shiver up yer spine?

      Try spending a night in Claude's basement.
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        Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

        You want a real shiver up yer spine?

        Try spending a night in Claude's basement.
        Ah I see you have experienced his Ice Torture.
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        Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

        Try spending a night in Claude's basement.
        Try spending 5 minutes in his bathroom after he's just used it.
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          Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

          Try spending 5 minutes in his bathroom after he's just used it.
          Impossible. Nobody could live that long with that much methane in the air.
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            Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

            Impossible. Nobody could live that long with that much methane in the air.
            Claude charges people to go in. He calls it the "Titan Experience"
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    In Chinese, the sound of the character for the number 4 shares the same sound (but different tone) as the character for to die. So, a lot of buildings just skip the 4th floor to avoid being unlucky.

    I've been in hospitals where they do that and it's like the 5th floor is the 4th floor so it's not like the bad luck isn't there (if there is bad luck). But I guess people aren't reminded about it so that takes away the problem.

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    Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

    You want a real shiver up yer spine?
    That would be Claude infamous Custard from the fridge torture?

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  • Profile picture of the author Princess Balestra
    Gotta figure Claude's penthouse is where all the serious actschwaahn be happenin'.


    Prolly the basement too packed with hoovah extensions, donuts an' cat treats.
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  • Profile picture of the author Profit Traveler
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    Vegas has had major construction renovations to accommodate Feng shui.

    Then there are the regular players/gamblers just a few...

    Things believed to bring misfortune:
    • playing at a new table
    • the number 13
    • rotating your chair while playing
    • lending money to another player
    • whistling while playing
    Things believed to bring good luck:
    • always betting on your lucky number
    • carrying a rabbit's foot or some other lucky charm
    • swearing against the roulette ball
    • wearing a lucky outfit or a lucky piece of clothing
    • leaving the table makes you lucky at the slots
    Also on New Years Eve people eat certain foods.

    Some believe what ever you experience on New Years will set the tone for the year....having sex, stuck in traffic, partying, playing it safe etc.
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      Originally Posted by Profit Traveler View Post

      Also on New Years Eve people eat certain foods.
      I don't eat anything special on New Year's Eve but every New Year's Day my family eats black-eyed peas. It brings good luck.

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        Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

        I don't eat anything special on New Year's Eve but every New Year's Day my family eats black-eyed peas. It brings good luck.

        Mark
        Same here.. family tradition..
        ..and at least once a month because I love em with fresh cornbread or dinner rolls if I'm in a hurry.
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    This appears to be a police or police themed website and they have a Ghost Section.

    https://www.police1.com/evergreen/ar...FigJX4tTcMkCq/
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    Imagination?
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    This is really a great topic because it has so many sub-topics that fall into it.
    And once you start thinking about how other's superstitions can be manipulated there is like an entire market full of niches.

    If you mix slight of hand master David Blaine, Fears, Superstitions,Trillions of Dollars, into a bowl you end up with today's Date.
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  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
    Yeah, superstitious, l use intuition and horoscopes for stock trading, and have been doing so, (on a serious level) for the last 3 months, with an 80% success rate!

    The proof is in the pudding, and if l am delusional and grasping at straws and make more and more money that is fine by me.

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      Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

      Yeah, superstitious, l use intuition and horoscopes for stock trading, and have been doing so, (on a serious level) for the last 3 months, with an 80% success rate!

      The proof is in the pudding, and if l am delusional and grasping at straws and make more and more money that is fine by me.
      Did you see The Big Short? The guys that saw the housing bubble collapse coming that never happened before instead of becoming whistle blowers..made a Billion Dollars outplaying the Banks at their own game. Intentional luck?

      Speaking of luck once someone stated there is no such thing an I directed them to a YT video of near misses compilations.

      Gamblers always use skills and tactical strategies in their decisions...but when they get a "bad beat" it was just bad luck.
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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        Originally Posted by Profit Traveler View Post

        Did you see The Big Short? The guys that saw the housing bubble collapse coming that never happened before instead of becoming whistle blowers..made a Billion Dollars outplaying the Banks at their own game. Intentional luck?

        Speaking of luck once someone stated there is no such thing an I directed them to a YT video of near misses compilations.

        Gamblers always use skills and tactical strategies in their decisions...but when they get a "bad beat" it was just bad luck.
        Sorry PT, but statistical analysis, and researching a company to death, cannot predict consolidation before a rally.

        Many people try to do that and lose.

        But others online, (including one online with the same strike rate as me, but he only uses statistical analysis only) has been successful also.

        Also tried online Casino's, but all the ones l have tried have been scam artists, (but l did achieve encouraging results).

        I know some won't buy it, which is fine by me, or l have invested 12 times out of 15 over the last few months, with three losses, that l recovered quickly. That isn't luck, luck is making money 5 times in a row, and blowing it.

        But l know that l am only kidding myself and have had a run of good luck, it will probably end in 50 years time?

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          Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

          Sorry PT,

          I know some won't buy it, which is fine by me, or l have invested 12 times out of 15 over the last few months, with three losses, that l recovered quickly. That isn't luck, luck is making money 5 times in a row, and blowing it.

          But l know that l am only kidding myself and have had a run of good luck, it will probably end in 50 years time?
          you can kid yourself and continue to report to the un support group here on the forum
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          • Profile picture of the author Profit Traveler
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            I really hate slideshows as articles but this one was like trying to eat only one potato chip!

            Superstitions of Super Successful People

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          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            At that rate you'll be wealthy in a year. I can't wait to hear all about it.
            Wealthy, unlikely, but l am hoping to be substantially better off, or well on my way.

            Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

            I used to do computer printouts of character readings or forward trends for individuals in my little New Age Store. This was to make money.

            It's based on computing the planets, the Sun and moon etc positions in the sky at the time and place on the Earth above there heads at birth. So you need the Longitude and Latitude of the place and the date of birth to do this. There the science and math ends, the interpretation is the man made thing.

            So, how would you do that for stocks and share's?
            The horoscope gives a rough outline of the week ahead, so when it says be cautious, l may hold out before trading, and when it says things will go well, l would expect a good day. And sometimes it is wrong, but overall it steers the ship into less rough seas, or it helps.

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              Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

              Wealthy, unlikely, but l am hoping to be substantially better off, or well on my way.



              The horoscope gives a rough outline of the week ahead, so when it says be cautious, l may hold out before trading, and when it says things will go well, l would expect a good day. And sometimes it is wrong, but overall it steers the ship into less rough seas, or it helps.

              Someone may ask.....

              Is there an App for that? Think about it.

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            • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
              Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

              Wealthy, unlikely, but l am hoping to be substantially better off, or well on my way.



              The horoscope gives a rough outline of the week ahead, so when it says be cautious, l may hold out before trading, and when it says things will go well, l would expect a good day. And sometimes it is wrong, but overall it steers the ship into less rough seas, or it helps.
              Ahh, so you are working off your personal horoscope predicting "your" fortunes. You use software to generate this or get someone to do this for you?
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                Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

                Ahh, so you are working off your personal horoscope predicting "your" fortunes. You use software to generate this or get someone to do this for you?
                Nah, too much of an Uncle Scrooge to pay for a personal reading, (although possibly a good idea) or l stay with online or newspaper ones.
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                • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
                  Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

                  Nah, too much of an Uncle Scrooge to pay for a personal reading, (although possibly a good idea) or l stay with online or newspaper ones.
                  Newspaper or online one's, given that it is just a sun sign natal cast and given an even distribution of of birth dates and location's of Earths population (which may not be the case) means that the daily forecast would be the same for a 12th of the population. Astrology is not exactly a credible subject in the first place but this would make it even less so.

                  I must conclude that you are being influenced by the online predictions and patterns of stock behavior on the sites you were working from. IE, you are learning the ropes. Nothing paranormal about that. Your 80 percent success rate would have to run for years to conclude that your intuition is a thing. Even then, it could be argued that you are just getting good information.
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            Originally Posted by Profit Traveler View Post

            Someone may ask.....

            Is there an App for that? Think about it.

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            Not that l am aware of, "or if it says, "things are not what they seem" that can be translated to the most relevant thing in your life.

            Or l have lost count as to how many times that was said, and l decided to short a trade instead of holding, and the next day it plunged.

            Or there is something to it, but yeah, l know deluding myself all the way to the bank, lol.

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              Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

              Not that l am aware of, "or if it says, "things are not what they seem" that can be translated to the most relevant thing in your life.

              Or l have lost count as to how many times that was said, and l decided to short a trade instead of holding, and the next day it plunged.

              Or there is something to it, but yeah, l know deluding myself all the way to the bank, lol.

              Oh I was definitely suggesting YOU create one yourself. It could blow up who knows. The Oval office had Seances under Nancy Reagan.
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                Originally Posted by Profit Traveler View Post

                Oh I was definitely suggesting YOU create one yourself. It could blow up who knows. The Oval office had Seances under Reagan.
                And Kennedy used Remote Viewing, (once to successfully find a downed military aircraft) but this forum is more about internet marketing, so probably not the place to open that can of worms again, (discussed it before and couldn't be bothered).

                Sure l could develop that, but without a smart phone, and a lot of my time taken up with other projects, not really practical at the moment.

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          • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
            The horoscope corresponds to your date of birth and I know a few people that play the lottery using their date of birth as the numbers they select on the lottery card.


            Three of those people were talking about it at a luncheon while I listened in on the conversation.


            One of them asked me what I thought about it and I replied with a question.. how is that working for you? She said something like after 10 years she hasn't seen a real difference. I said something like.. why not calculate back to the date of conception and see if that makes any difference.


            At our next luncheon I asked her about it, She said she actually did a little better compared to the past 10 years.
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            • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
              Originally Posted by Jeffery View Post

              The horoscope corresponds to your date of birth and I know a few people that play the lottery using their date of birth as the numbers they select on the lottery card.


              Three of those people were talking about it at a luncheon while I listened in on the conversation.


              One of them asked me what I thought about it and I replied with a question.. how is that working for you? She said something like after 10 years she hasn't seen a real difference. I said something like.. why not calculate back to the date of conception and see if that makes any difference.


              At our next luncheon I asked her about it, She said she actually did a little better compared to the past 10 years.
              The actual date of conception would be impossible to predict given the time after the last "Conceivable" nuptials took place and the date that pregnancy being the case was established.
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          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
            Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

            Newspaper or online one's, given that it is just a sun sign natal cast and given an even distribution of of birth dates and location's of Earths population (which may not be the case) means that the daily forecast would be the same for a 12th of the population. Astrology is not exactly a credible subject in the first place but this would make it even less so.

            I must conclude that you are being influenced by the online predictions and patterns of stock behavior on the sites you were working from. IE, you are learning the ropes. Nothing paranormal about that. Your 80 percent success rate would have to run for years to conclude that your intuition is a thing. Even then, it could be argued that you are just getting good information.
            Yes, agreed, one guy l know has the same success rate, and he doesn't use what l use, but he has been doing it for years, and he has a feel for what he does. But he doesn't try to predict bottoming out, or relys on a upward trend, stabilizing before investing

            Trying to predict a stocks low point is very difficult, but l am quite good at it.

            And l know that some will never buy it, since they don't want to, (to put it mildly) but three months and 15 investments, no, it is not a lucky streak or dumb luck.

            Can't really discuss horoscopes in AU and abroad, but they work so!

            No Mark in a few years, l could update this, but it is unlikely doubters would listen, and no l don't research a company to death, just rely on previous techniques, tech stocks seem to go up forever, but as it was shown recently they can also have big falls.

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            • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
              Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

              Yes, agreed, one guy l know has the same success rate, and he doesn't use what l use, but he has been doing it for years, and he has a feel for what he does. But he doesn't try to predict bottoming out, or relys on a upward trend, stabilizing before investing

              Trying to predict a stocks low point is very difficult, but l am quite good at it.

              And l know that some will never buy it, since they don't want to, (to put it mildly) but three months and 15 investments, no, it is not a lucky streak or dumb luck.
              So obviously you have now established a proven winning system for investing in stocks. Again, this means that you will be wealthy within a year, even if your correct picks go down to 60%.

              Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post


              No Mark in a few years, l could update this, but it is unlikely doubters would listen,

              You are wrong. I'll listen, and I'll say I was wrong to doubt you. So, in a year from today's date, you will prove to me that either;
              1) You are a proven investor using intuition and a horoscope. And I was completely wrong about you.

              or

              2) You are delusional.

              One year then.
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              • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                You are wrong. I'll listen, and I'll say I was wrong to doubt you. So, in a year from today's date, you will prove to me that either <snip>;
                He will need to provide proof of every trade he's made, ie screenshots showing time and date of both buy and sell, the amount "invested", as well as profit or loss of every trade for a full year.

                If he was actually trading in shares (the ones listed on any recognised stock exchange, ie ASX, NYSE, Nasdaq, LSE, etc.) this would be easy as with each buy or sell he would be issued by a contract note from his broker. I've got no idea what happens with the binary options (CFDs) he trades in, that's why screen shots of each trade will have to suffice.

                Oh yeah and also a screenshot of the horoscope that inspired each trade. That bit is just as important as the trade details.

                The challenge is on.
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                • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                  Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

                  He will need to provide proof of every trade he's made, ie screenshots showing time and date of both buy and sell, the amount "invested", as well as profit or loss of every trade for a full year.

                  If he was actually trading in shares (the ones listed on any recognised stock exchange, ie ASX, NYSE, Nasdaq, LSE, etc.) this would be easy as with each buy or sell he would be issued by a contract note from his broker. I've got no idea what happens with the binary options (CFDs) he trades in, that's why screen shots of each trade will have to suffice.

                  Oh yeah and also a screenshot of the horoscope that inspired each trade. That bit is just as important as the trade details.

                  The challenge is on.
                  I know you're joking.

                  Actually, I believe Shane. In other words, I don't think he would lie about this. At the end of a year, if he says that he has a million dollars (or the Australian equivalent), I'll believe him.

                  But what we will get...I know you know this...is a series of posts telling up how he predicted that he would lose money over the long haul.......or that he stopped trading...but if he had continued trading, he would have made a million dollars.

                  But in the end, he will say that he accomplished everything he said he would do. Even though he will still be living in his Mom's basement. I know we will hear a story, about how he did what he said he would...without actually making any money. I don't know the precise story he will tell, but I know we'll get one.

                  How many years have we been here...hearing about his mythical powers? How many stories have we heard?
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                  • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
                    Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                    I know you're joking.

                    Actually, I believe Shane. In other words, I don't think he would lie about this. At the end of a year, if he says that he has a million dollars (or the Australian equivalent), I'll believe him.

                    But what we will get...I know you know this...is a series of posts telling up how he predicted that he would lose money over the long haul.......or that he stopped trading...but if he had continued trading, he would have made a million dollars.

                    But in the end, he will say that he accomplished everything he said he would do. Even though he will still be living in his Mom's basement. I know we will hear a story, about how he did what he said he would...without actually making any money. I don't know the precise story he will tell, but I know we'll get one.

                    How many years have we been here...hearing about his mythical powers? How many stories have we heard?
                    A story

                    Mrs Murphy walked down the stairs to the basement with Shane's breakfast tray at 5 pm in the afternoon. She stopped in her tracks at the foot of the staircase. Looking at the adornment of new nick-nack's and decor around the room. An expensive shag-pile carpet covered the floor. Ton's of blob lamps made the room glow in many colors. Paintings from local artists adorned the walls

                    A new vibrating 4 poster bed was the centerpiece of the room together with expensive new furniture. A new computer with a 46 inch screen sat on a custom made desk, it's led lights glowed and the water cooling bubbled away. An 85" Oled TV was mounted on the wall.

                    How could you afford all this stuff said his mother. I've had a bit of luck with the Binaries said Shane. You mean you wrote an App said his mother (an astute programmer herself) No said Shane, binary trading..you know. Oh said his mother, So you have a ton of money in the bank then? Well not exactly said Shane, looking up from his Horoscope Magazine...I have been running a simulation using Astrology and intuition for the last nine months and if I had put the money in I would have made a fortune.

                    So how did you pay for all this said his mother? I borrowed your credit card and Maxed it out said Shane... No worries mum, I know I can easily make a fortune. You will get your money back..Mum...Mum!

                    Too late, the breakfast tray went crashing to the floor, it was required as his mother needed to do A Double Face Palm.
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                    • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
                      Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

                      A story

                      Mrs Murphy walked down the stairs to the basement with Shane's breakfast tray at 5 pm in the afternoon. She stopped in her tracks at the foot of the staircase. Looking at the adornment of new nick-nack's and decor around the room. An expensive shag-pile carpet covered the floor. Ton's of blob lamps made the room glow in many colors. Paintings from local artists adorned the walls

                      A new vibrating 4 poster bed was the centerpiece of the room together with expensive new furniture. A new computer with a 46 inch screen sat on a custom made desk, it's led lights glowed and the water cooling bubbled away. An 85" Oled TV was mounted on the wall.

                      How could you afford all this stuff said his mother. I've had a bit of luck with the Binaries said Shane. You mean you wrote an App said his mother (an astute programmer herself) No said Shane, binary trading..you know. Oh said his mother, So you have a ton of money in the bank then? Well not exactly said Shane, looking up from his Horoscope Magazine...I have been running a simulation using Astrology and intuition for the last nine months and if I had put the money in I would have made a fortune.

                      So how did you pay for all this said his mother? I borrowed your credit card and Maxed it out said Shane... No worries mum, I know I can easily make a fortune. You will get your money back..Mum...Mum!

                      Too late, the breakfast tray went crashing to the floor, it was required as his mother needed to do A Double Face Palm.
                      I find the above story hard to believe. It's obvious he made all the money to pay for those goodies from his lottery winnings.
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                    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                      Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

                      A story

                      Mrs Murphy walked down the stairs to the basement with Shane's breakfast tray at 5 pm in the afternoon. She stopped in her tracks at the foot of the staircase. Looking at the adornment of new nick-nack's and decor around the room. An expensive shag-pile carpet covered the floor. Ton's of blob lamps made the room glow in many colors. Paintings from local artists adorned the walls

                      A new vibrating 4 poster bed was the centerpiece of the room together with expensive new furniture. A new computer with a 46 inch screen sat on a custom made desk, it's led lights glowed and the water cooling bubbled away. An 85" Oled TV was mounted on the wall.

                      How could you afford all this stuff said his mother. I've had a bit of luck with the Binaries said Shane. You mean you wrote an App said his mother (an astute programmer herself) No said Shane, binary trading..you know. Oh said his mother, So you have a ton of money in the bank then? Well not exactly said Shane, looking up from his Horoscope Magazine...I have been running a simulation using Astrology and intuition for the last nine months and if I had put the money in I would have made a fortune.

                      So how did you pay for all this said his mother? I borrowed your credit card and Maxed it out said Shane... No worries mum, I know I can easily make a fortune. You will get your money back..Mum...Mum!

                      Too late, the breakfast tray went crashing to the floor, it was required as his mother needed to do A Double Face Palm.
                      That is how a professional critizies someone, Claude and Whatti pay attention.

                      But that story is completely off, we don't have basements in Australia.

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          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
            Originally Posted by Jeffery View Post

            OMG, Claude and Shane are dating.
            Geesh, and l read that before retiring, now l will have nightmares.

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        • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
          Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

          Sorry PT, but statistical analysis, and researching a company to death, cannot predict consolidation before a rally.

          Many people try to do that and lose.

          But others online, (including one online with the same strike rate as me, but he only uses statistical analysis only) has been successful also.

          Also tried online Casino's, but all the ones l have tried have been scam artists, (but l did achieve encouraging results).

          I know some won't buy it, which is fine by me, or l have invested 12 times out of 15 over the last few months, with three losses, that l recovered quickly. That isn't luck, luck is making money 5 times in a row, and blowing it.

          But l know that l am only kidding myself and have had a run of good luck, it will probably end in 50 years time?
          I used to do computer printouts of character readings or forward trends for individuals in my little New Age Store. This was to make money.

          It's based on computing the planets, the Sun and moon etc positions in the sky at the time and place on the Earth above there heads at birth. So you need the Longitude and Latitude of the place and the date of birth to do this. There the science and math ends, the interpretation is the man made thing.

          So, how would you do that for stocks and share's?
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      Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

      Yeah, superstitious, l use intuition and horoscopes for stock trading, and have been doing so, (on a serious level) for the last 3 months, with an 80% success rate!
      At that rate you'll be wealthy in a year. I can't wait to hear all about it.
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      • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        I can't wait to hear all about it.
        Another one you'll want to clear your appointments book for.
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

          Another one you'll want to clear your appointments book for.
          Remember the old "8 ball" black globes that were filled with colored water, and if you shook it, it gave you a "fortune"?

          When I was a kid, I thought they were real. My mom told me they were dangerous (demons, you know)..and of course I bought one and asked lots of questions...trying to interpret the answers. I was maybe 8 years old.

          I remember finding an old one, with some of the liquid drained out..and saw that it was just a plastic ball inside with 8 sides (I think), each with a different answer.

          I got so mad at myself for believing in such things, even though I was still a kid.
          And I felt even worse when I considered that my Mom still believed, as an adult, that these things had real power.

          I'm surprised I survived.
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          • Profile picture of the author Odahh
            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            Remember the old "8 ball" black globes that were filled with colored water, and if you shook it, it gave you a "fortune"?

            When I was a kid, I thought they were real. My mom told me they were dangerous (demons, you know)..and of course I bought one and asked lots of questions...trying to interpret the answers. I was maybe 8 years old.

            I'm surprised I survived.
            no society is free of it ..and the more science turn to computer models to make prediction of doom and scare people ..the more science just become another religion to be questioned .. or believed and adhered to ..

            so when science turns to hocus pocus .. many others turn to system of hocus pocus that have been around a few thousand years or longer .. there is science that happens in a lab .. and results in some improvment in the world .. then there are people who claim to be scientists .. who type real data and made up data into computer models.. and then use the out put to tell scary stories to children and adults ..

            we are all going to die in ten year.. or the earth is going to cook.. or thwir will be no more winter ..

            navada and arizon will be coastal states in 2050 ..

            unless bad humans stop doing bad things
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              Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

              Arizona will be coastal states in 2050 ..
              Tell that to George Strait he has Ocean Front property

              "I got some ocean front property in Arizona
              From my front porch you can see the sea
              I got some ocean front property in Arizona
              If you'll buy that I'll throw the golden gate in free "

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              • Profile picture of the author Odahh
                Originally Posted by DWolfe View Post

                Tell that to George Strait he has Ocean Front property

                "I got some ocean front property in Arizona
                From my front porch you can see the sea
                I got some ocean front property in Arizona
                If you'll buy that I'll throw the golden gate in free "

                George Strait - Ocean Front Property - YouTube
                nice haha.a song based in sarcasm love it ..you know how to tell a traditional country singer from othere type of artists..

                IF you play their music backward ..you get you house back your wfe back your dog back and your truck back ..
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      I always think good thoughts when I see the time 11:11 because of my girlfriends superstition. It has rubbed off on me, lol. Other then that one I am intrigued with number patterns like when it was 02/02/2020 or 02/20/20. Times like 1:11, 2:22, 3:33, 4:44, 5:55 seem to intrigue me for no reason at all.

      Interesting...

      The world's most popular lottery number is 11 - pushing 'lucky number seven' down to second place, according to a study.

      https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...pular-12930040

      But I am sticking with number 23. It has paid my rent so many times....especially when you would find someone born in the City that would play against the Bulls in the Playoffs.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
    This has nothing to do with being superstitious, but maybe it is more about bad luck?

    Two days ago my wife and me were leaving our apartment in the city to take her to work.

    The apartment door has the standard two lock system. The top lock was stuck in the closed position and the bottom lock was fine. As a result we could not open the door. Literally, we were locked in the apartment!

    Told my wife to stay inside at the front door while I went out the backdoor to go around and attempt to unlock the front door. No joy!

    Told her to go to the backdoor and with the door open - test and make sure she could lock and unlock the door. If she could unlock the door go ahead lock the door behind her and come out to the truck. She did.

    On the way to work I told her I would call the realtor when they opened or a locksmith to fix the door. Fine and well.

    Not!

    When I got back to the apartment my key would not open the backdoor! And my phone was locked in he apartment because in my haste to get her to work, blah, blah. I was now locked out the apartment and no phone. My wife said she tested her key and it worked, so I assumed my key would work. Slightly pissed off at that time.

    Went back to her work. Explained it and she accompanied me back to the apartment, so we could get in using her key. No Joy! Her key would not unlock the bottom lock.

    I said we would go back to her work (restaurant) and I would chill at the coffee bar until the realtor opened or I would have a locksmith deal with it.

    On the way to her work (10 to 13 minute drive) all of a sudden we heard something under the truck - flapping around sound - the steering went out on my truck. Luckily, I was able to steer the truck into an O'Reilleys Auto Parts store.

    Looked under the hood and the power steering belt was trashed.

    It was 4:30 a.m. and O'Reilleys did not open till 7 a.m. When they did open the manager had the parts, but they do not do the mechanic work. Next door was a custom mechanic shop the manager recommended. Talked to them and they would do the work, but only if we bought the parts from them (company policy) and could park the truck in their parking area. $170.00 and Joy!

    Now, in the meantime my wife called her employer, he picked us both up and we went to the restaurant. Hung out there for an hour drinking coffee till the truck was ready. His vehicle, we went to the apartment first where his 'lock guy' met us and fixed everything.

    Next stop, we went back to the custom auto shop and picked up the truck. Next stop, alone, back to the apartment.

    Folks, I made a really long story short as I could.

    The take away:
    Got to get my wife her own car.
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  • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
    The horoscope gives a rough outline of the week ahead, so when it says be cautious, l may hold out before trading, and when it says things will go well, l would expect a good day. And sometimes it is wrong, but overall it steers the ship into less rough seas, or it helps.
    MUST...

    RESIST...

    TEMPTATION...

    AARRGGHH!!
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  • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
    It's worthwhile pointing out that the person using horoscopes to (in his words) trade stocks, has never bought a share of stock in his life.

    He trades binary options or CFDs (Contracts For Difference as they're called in Australia) instead. The fact that he doesn't know there's a difference should tell you everything you need to know - as if using using horoscopes published in tabloids didn't already do that.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

      It's worthwhile pointing out that the person using horoscopes to (in his words) trade stocks, has never bought a share of stock in his life.

      He trades binary options or CFDs (Contracts For Difference as they're called in Australia) instead. The fact that he doesn't know there's a difference should tell you everything you need to know - as if using using horoscopes published in tabloids didn't already do that.
      Absolutely right.

      https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c...ifferences.asp

      Also absolutely right, that Stake defines it as a stock trade.



      So l guess you had better send them a message to get their definitions correct?

      Here is a link....https://www.afr.com/companies/financ...0200622-p5550i

      The Financial Review, classify's it as a stock also, and a derivative, so l guess you had better wise them up also?

      And yeah, it does say a lot.

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    OMG, Claude and Shane are dating.
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