Low Post Count = Newbie?

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I am new to the forum and I have taken notice that although I've been around the industry for quite a while people on this forum tend to assume I'm a "newbie" to Internet marketing just because of my sign-up date and low post count.

The truth of the matter is I've been busy doing running my business opposed to socializing in the community not to say that socializing is not important in fact that's why in here I believe that's where the industry is heading and that's where my focus should be.

What has your experience been with this type of situation?

Am I the only one that notices this?
#count #low #newbie #post
  • Profile picture of the author Mikedb
    Hi,

    you are correct.
    People tend to misinterpret post count for experience and that is NOT always the case!
    I have been doing business online for 13 years and I only joined almost a year ago.
    Also posting value instead of saying just Hi or I like your product should count.

    Regards,

    Mike
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  • Profile picture of the author Sandra Martinez
    Can I ask you something?

    why you care?

    everyone has a pay the price when getting to a new place...

    I'm in the same condition actually. Put my first site online in 2004... and leaving only out of the internet since 2006. Have been working with some big names (and others not so big).

    it is not a big deal, show what you've got and you will be welcome to the big kids table.

    Sandra
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    • Profile picture of the author IM Listing
      Originally Posted by Sandra Martinez View Post

      Can I ask you something?

      why you care?
      I guess you could say curiosity perhaps.
      Something to entice the friendly conversation maybe.
      Or maybe perhaps it's because I've always been very interested in psychology and why people do what they do.
      lol
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      • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
        Walter,

        You are absolutely correct. I've even found myself thinking like this at times before I slap myself out of that mindset...lol. We tend to think of the Warrior Forum as the end-all, be-all of internet marketing and it's far from it.

        As large and wonderful as this community is, there is a whole wide world outside of it that has never heard of the forum.

        The psychology behind it? I don't know about that so much.

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        • Profile picture of the author IM Listing
          Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises View Post

          As large and wonderful as this community is, there is a whole wide world outside of it that has never heard of the forum.


          Tina
          Well I hope I'll be able to introduce some out of the forum thinking to this community.

          know how well the information and expertise is taken I have no control over but I hope it's taken while.
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          • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
            As the post count poster boy, I can tell you as a fact that there are
            people here 20 times more successful than I am with one twentieth the
            number of posts.

            All post count means is that you like to post to forums a lot.

            It has absolutely no correlation to how successful or unsuccessful a person is.
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            • Profile picture of the author IM Listing
              Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

              As the post count poster boy, I can tell you as a fact that there are
              people here 20 times more successful than I am with one twentieth the
              number of posts.

              All post count means is that you like to post to forums a lot.

              It has absolutely no correlation to how successful or unsuccessful a person is.
              I absolutely agree with you poster boy lol
              If anything I hope this thread helps people to reevaluate the way they judge new members to the forum.
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              • Profile picture of the author Steve Holmes
                Originally Posted by IM Listing View Post

                I absolutely agree with you poster boy lol
                If anything I hope this thread helps people to reevaluate the way they judge new members to the forum.
                Knowledge is absolute - if the recipient of your post is able to take what you say as it is, post count shouldn't matter.

                Not everyone is like that though - but you can't change people's attitudes by making a few posts.

                Just take it as it is and you'll be fine.
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                • Profile picture of the author IM Listing
                  Originally Posted by Steve Holmes View Post


                  Not everyone is like that though - but you can't change people's attitudes by making a few posts.
                  I must respectfully disagree.

                  Can one post change people's attitudes yes why not
                  in fact one statement can change the world
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                  • Profile picture of the author Steve Holmes
                    Originally Posted by IM Listing View Post

                    I must respectfully disagree.

                    Can one post change people's attitudes yes why not
                    in fact one statement can change the world
                    I meant in context of the thread... that you will not change the attitude of the forum community in a few posts that a fewer post count in their mind will give you less credability... on this forum.

                    I agree with what you say when out of context, but i thought we were talking about the thread - lol
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                  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
                    Originally Posted by IM Listing View Post

                    Can one post change people's attitudes yes why not in fact one statement can change the world
                    Just because it can be done doesn't mean you can do it.
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                    • Profile picture of the author IM Listing
                      Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

                      Just because it can be done doesn't mean you can do it.
                      I must respectfully disagree with you.

                      I believe I can do anything. The only thing that could possibly hold me back is time.
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                      • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
                        Originally Posted by IM Listing View Post

                        I believe I can do anything.
                        Lick your elbow.
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                        • Profile picture of the author IM Listing
                          Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

                          Lick your elbow.
                          I could absolutely do that all I will need to do is break my arm.......
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              • Profile picture of the author shakingspear
                Originally Posted by IM Listing View Post

                If anything I hope this thread helps people to reevaluate the way they judge new members to the forum.
                Nice try, newbie.
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                • Profile picture of the author IM Listing
                  Originally Posted by shakingspear View Post

                  Nice try, newbie.
                  This is not trying this is doing my newly found friend lol
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            • Profile picture of the author Grace26
              I agree with you totally.
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              • Profile picture of the author IM Listing
                Originally Posted by Grace26 View Post

                I agree with you totally.
                I appreciate your positive response.

                If you don't mind I would like to make suggestion add your personal name or business name to your title so people can find out who you are outside of this forum.

                This is what I'm really getting in this entire topic. I'm trying to encourage people to go outside the boundaries of this forum....
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                    • Profile picture of the author IM Listing
                      Originally Posted by Hunter114 View Post

                      are doesnt now anyone that in here? i dont get it anyway! need some help!
                      What type of help do you need perhaps I can help or find someone that can....
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                      • Profile picture of the author Paul Clare
                        Originally Posted by IM Listing View Post

                        What type of help do you need perhaps I can help or find someone that can....
                        I think Hunter114 just got banned. Hahaha
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                        • Profile picture of the author IM Listing
                          Originally Posted by Paul Clare View Post

                          I think Hunter114 just got banned. Hahaha
                          I believe the monitors were simply helping him by letting him know he was in the wrong place. it is unfortunate that i was not able to help him but I do hope he gets to where he needs to be....
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                          • Profile picture of the author Paul Clare
                            Originally Posted by IM Listing View Post

                            I believe the monitors were simply helping him by letting him know he was in the wrong place. it is unfortunate that i was not able to help him but I do hope he gets to where he needs to be....
                            Ya, but with english that bad I'm not sure that anyone could have helped him.
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      • Profile picture of the author Sandra Martinez
        Originally Posted by IM Listing View Post

        I guess you could say curiosity perhaps.
        Something to entice the friendly conversation maybe.
        Or maybe perhaps it's because I've always been very interested in psychology and why people do what they do.
        lol
        Ahh... well, this is the biggest forum in IM, and there are some really brilliant folks here. I have been roaming for a long time picking up info.

        the psychology is similar to any other established community...

        Sandra
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        • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
          Originally Posted by Sandra Martinez View Post

          the psychology is similar to any other established community...
          See, you're smart. You've been here less than a week and made under a dozen posts, and I can still tell I need to be watching you.
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          • Profile picture of the author Sandra Martinez
            Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

            See, you're smart. You've been here less than a week and made under a dozen posts, and I can still tell I need to be watching you.
            yes, I am really smart. More that you are assuming.

            Sandra
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            • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
              Originally Posted by Sandra Martinez View Post

              yes, I am really smart. More that you are assuming.
              I make no assumptions about someone's intellect unless and until they say something really stupid. Like "I disagree with you." That one really damages my opinion of someone's intelligence.
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              • Profile picture of the author Sandra Martinez
                Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

                I make no assumptions about someone's intellect unless and until they say something really stupid. Like "I disagree with you." That one really damages my opinion of someone's intelligence.
                lol ok, will take note of that.

                Sandra
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              • Profile picture of the author Steve Holmes
                Yeh I agree
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              • Profile picture of the author santosm
                In my opinion...absolutely not.

                High Post Count = Someone who's been around for a long time and has contributed greatly to the forum. Ahh, but it could also mean that someone's been around for a shorter while, wants to learn, and shoots off a million and one questions. It could also mean that someone (probably many warriors) just likes the interaction with like minded people in this forum.

                Low Post Count = Possibly someone new to the forum, but not neccesarily new to the industry or someone who prefers to read than post or a more reserved type who only posts when they feel they have something of value to add.

                I've been a member of the warrior forum since 2005 (which was the old forum) my post count is 300 odd which from my stats say I post 0.17 per day. Only 300 posts in over 5 years. Does that make me a newbie??

                As for pyschology...I can see where you're coming from, that does seem to be the trend that low post count = newbie.

                But I think post count says a whole lot more than that. If you were to take this community offline, put everyone in a room and let loose to talk, then "conversation count" as opposed to post count would reveal more of the personality. Don't you think?

                So high post count (or high conversation count) could = experience, extrovert, confidence, socialable or a motormouth (lol).

                Therefore low post count (or low conversation count) could = introvert, shy, reserved, listener but not neccesarily an inexperienced newbie.

                So basically, in my opinion

                Post count = personality more than experience or inexperience.

                Valuable posts = low or high posts counts


                Cheers Marianne
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                • Profile picture of the author Kay King
                  Maybe the people with low post counts and early sign up dates are the real "gurus"..
                  In some cases, that's true. In others, it's that some can't be bothered to answer questions of others and post here only when THEY need an answer.

                  It's a big place - lots of people of all kinds. Drawing general opinions doesn't work.
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                • Profile picture of the author IM Listing
                  Originally Posted by santosm View Post

                  In my opinion...absolutely not.

                  High Post Count = Someone who's been around for a long time and has contributed greatly to the forum. Ahh, but it could also mean that someone's been around for a shorter while, wants to learn, and shoots off a million and one questions. It could also mean that someone (probably many warriors) just likes the interaction with like minded people in this forum.

                  Low Post Count = Possibly someone new to the forum, but not neccesarily new to the industry or someone who prefers to read than post or a more reserved type who only posts when they feel they have something of value to add.

                  I've been a member of the warrior forum since 2005 (which was the old forum) my post count is 300 odd which from my stats say I post 0.17 per day. Only 300 posts in over 5 years. Does that make me a newbie??

                  As for pyschology...I can see where you're coming from, that does seem to be the trend that low post count = newbie.

                  But I think post count says a whole lot more than that. If you were to take this community offline, put everyone in a room and let loose to talk, then "conversation count" as opposed to post count would reveal more of the personality. Don't you think?

                  So high post count (or high conversation count) could = experience, extrovert, confidence, socialable or a motormouth (lol).

                  Therefore low post count (or low conversation count) could = introvert, shy, reserved, listener but not neccesarily an inexperienced newbie.

                  So basically, in my opinion

                  Post count = personality more than experience or inexperience.

                  Valuable posts = low or high posts counts


                  Cheers Marianne
                  I really enjoyed the detailed response that you have been able to put together in this post.
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  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    Originally Posted by IM Listing View Post

    people on this forum tend to assume I'm a "newbie" to Internet marketing just because of my sign-up date and low post count.
    You also don't use your real name and real picture.

    Those things matter, too.

    At the very least, identify yourself and show people your smiling face, and a lot of that will go away. Some of us are quite good at identifying the real professionals, even when they have recent join dates and low post counts.

    If you'd rather not, rest assured that most of the people here are reading your posts and reserving judgment until we have a clear idea of who you are from that.

    And the tiny little minority who want to snort and scoff and call you a newbie? They don't matter, anyway. Most of them won't be here in six months, and those who are will probably still be whinging that they can't make any money.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Holmes
    It comes down to credability.

    Generally people who have higher post counts have added VALUE to the forum and some of that credability comes from appreciation of that VALUE by other members.

    That's the whole point of this forum. Add value and you will be appreciated for that, with thats comes a higher post count and with that comes the credability.

    They all go hand in hand, just not neccesarily proportionally...
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  • Profile picture of the author mywebwork
    The low post count does not automatically make you an IM newbie, as you mentioned you have been working in the business for a while now and simply haven't spent much time on this forum.

    But it does indicate that you are a newbie in here. And as such you'll need to make some valuable contributions before your newbie status is lifted.

    It's a lot like an intelligent student who has just entered a new school for the first time. He or she may indeed be the most brilliant student the class, but on their first day no one else is yet aware of this. So the intelligent student needs to spend some time proving their talents. Eventually they will get the recognition they deserve.

    You've been here a month and have had 2 dozen posts, just give it time! A few months from now and you could be a well-respected member, all it takes are some worthwhile posts.

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  • Profile picture of the author Stefan Vee
    I hardly make any new post or thread anymore.
    I wish I had more time since I really like this marketing community a lot.
    But I really don't care if people consider me to be a newbie or not. Who cares?
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    • Profile picture of the author IM Listing
      Originally Posted by Stefan Vee View Post

      Who cares?
      I've seen this question pop up a couple times so far and I must say It seems as if there may be a lot that care just look at the activity on this thread thus far.
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  • Profile picture of the author InternetM39482
    Naa, I don't think so. John Reese, Frank Kern, et al here and I don't think they have thousands of posts. They certainly are not newbies, are they?

    I, for one, don't pay a lot of attention to the Join Date. Your posts, and the overall behavior are far more important to me.
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    • Profile picture of the author IM Listing
      Originally Posted by Swastik View Post

      Naa, I don't think so. John Reese, Frank Kern, et al here and I don't think they have thousands of posts. They certainly are not newbies, are they?

      I, for one, don't pay a lot of attention to the Join Date. Your posts, and the overall behavior are far more important to me.
      I must absolutely agree with the statement about overall behavior.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alan Petersen
    Of course post count does not mean a person is a newbie to IM but for sure a newbie to the warrior forum or at least a posting warrior - which is probably why you posted this in the "main discussion forum" where we talk about making money vs. the "off-topic" forum which is where we talk about these type of posts.
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  • Profile picture of the author rapidworkers
    No its not like that ..there are other reasons too...
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  • Profile picture of the author ichew
    Your posts will determine your status in a forum, post quality input to a thread then your gain your popularity in a forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author JustinDupre
    Personally, I don't think it really matters how many posts you have or what your join date is in the forum. People see and know different things.. That's why there are many type of occupations out there.. I also have a strong interest in psychology.. However, It doesn't really matter here as long as we are building a strong IM community and learning from each other failure and success. Cheers!
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  • Profile picture of the author Alfred Shelver
    I have a confession to make "I am a post count groupie" ( I have a Steven Wagenheim poster in my room LOL) , I always look at the number of post ,thanks, join date etc..

    I always do a quick mathematical calculation at +- quotes per day number of thanks etc also I look at the photo where are they from if no location why? what are you hiding ?are you a Nigerian scamster etc.

    As I have not had the pleasure of meeting any of you personally or had any other dealing outside of this forum that is all i have to do a personality/character profile whatever you want to call it .... no matter how flawed, it is less flawed than pure assumption and treating all warriors equally.

    Especially as newbie I see some seriously ostentatious promises in WSO's and signature links and I need something to make a judgment with, how must i know if its lie or the truth. I trust too easily so I find IM very disappointing at times.

    I also use all the above information in conjunction with post quality and usefulness etc. an example there is a warrior on here who does not have 1000s of post only a few 100s but everyone of his post are extremely intelligent and well written.... he is a copywriter so i think him doing this is working or marketing or whatever but i also get benefit

    And to make the statement that 'maybe a low post count means a hard worker not a socialite ' sounds like a great comment, but If we think carefully our top professions are trained and taught by non doing people like professors etc... in IM although they might be on here allot most high post-counters are doing along with helping communicating etc.

    So in conclusion yes if you have a low post count I believe like all things you have some stripes/Respect to earn so to speak; and you can most definitely speed up the process by the quality of your posts and your attitude.

    I believe a Newbie will get further quicker by making use of all the statistics like post count, thanks, etc to make decisions than by treating all posts by all people equally without those stats
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    • Profile picture of the author IM Listing
      Originally Posted by nashelver View Post


      As I have not had the pleasure of meeting any of you personally or had any other dealing outside of this forum that is all i have to do a personality/character profile whatever you want to call it .... no matter how flawed, it is less flawed than pure assumption and treating all warriors equally.
      I think what needs to be recognized here and that was mentioned earlier is that there is a world outside of this forum that you can use to gather statistical evidence of somebodies credibility.

      Since the time I joined this forum I've been speaking with some of the successful members that I know outside of this forum and they also agree that is a big issue that people get stuck on this forum although it's a great place to learn ( that is what I have discovered thus far ) it's not a place you should build your business around.

      I guess what I'm saying is get out there and socialize this form can do a lot as far as learning and teaching but you must expand your business.
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  • Profile picture of the author sarahberra
    You will really enjoy this forum newbie. This is my favorite forum. I had a post a lot before I was allowed to include back links though.
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    • Profile picture of the author BigDaddys101
      Originally Posted by sarahberra View Post

      You will really enjoy this forum newbie. This is my favorite forum. I had a post a lot before I was allowed to include back links though.

      I actually had an account 3 years ago or so. The fact so many people tried posting links and selling outside of the WSO thread kept me away for a while and I forgot my original acct details.

      I'm glad to see someone stepped up and started cracking the whip on that crap because Warriorforum was headed down the drain.

      You can easily learn a lot here, but following the wrong person could also easily get you way off track to what actually should be done.
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      • Profile picture of the author IM Listing
        Originally Posted by BigDaddys101 View Post

        I actually had an account 3 years ago or so. The fact so many people tried posting links and selling outside of the WSO thread kept me away for a while and I forgot my original acct details.

        I'm glad to see someone stepped up and started cracking the whip on that crap because Warriorforum was headed down the drain.

        You can easily learn a lot here, but following the wrong person could also easily get you way off track to what actually should be done.
        I absolutely agree you must pay attention to what statistics you are actually using to determine who you follow.
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    • Profile picture of the author IM Listing
      Originally Posted by sarahberra View Post

      You will really enjoy this forum newbie. This is my favorite forum. I had a post a lot before I was allowed to include back links though.
      I am a little confused on who you were directing this response to.

      Could you please clarify?
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Clare
    Same here bro. Been looking through and buying things off this forum for 2 years and look at my post count lol. It doesn't matter though. I mainly just come to this website to buy WSO's and thats it.
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    • Profile picture of the author IM Listing
      Originally Posted by Paul Clare View Post

      Same here bro. Been looking through and buying things off this forum for 2 years and look at my post count lol. It doesn't matter though. I mainly just come to this website to buy WSO's and thats it.
      just my opinion that if you use the quote function that is provided on this forum it makes it much easier for other readers to understand who you were speaking directly to.
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      • Profile picture of the author Paul Clare
        Originally Posted by IM Listing View Post

        just my opinion that if you use the quote function that is provided on this forum it makes it much easier for other readers to understand who you were speaking directly to.
        Right thanks for taking the time to reply. I will certainly remember that for the 5 posts I might make this year.
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        • Profile picture of the author IM Listing
          Originally Posted by Paul Clare View Post

          Right thanks for taking the time to reply. I will certainly remember that for the 5 posts I might make this year.
          LOL right on...

          Well it's a great practice To address the speaker which you are referring to whether you're on this form or any other form to use simple features such as that.
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    • Profile picture of the author IM Listing
      Originally Posted by Hunter114 View Post

      why is this calling newbie?
      I apologize but I do not understand your question.

      I understand the English may not be your first language so could you please rephrase?
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  • Profile picture of the author mcampbell075
    I can relate to it... And I agree with what santosm explained above.

    IMO, this conversation can really relate to a famous English idiom

    "Don't judge a book by its cover"

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