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I've come to believe that gratitude is the same as appreciation, and that a person can't be happy without feeling it. Someone lacking in appreciation, that is -- gratitude, will also be lacking in happiness. That would explain why so many people who seem to have everything can be so miserable while someone with only a little can be incredibly happy. They aren't able to appreciate what they have vs being grateful for what they are getting in life.

I suspect that a person with little who is unable to appreciate what he/she has, would still be miserable even with a lot.
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  • Profile picture of the author Don Schenk
    Twenty-two years ago I started writing a gratitude list. I still add to it today, and it is the size of a book - seventy something pages, single-space typed with a new item on each line -31067 words!

    I and everyone I have taught this technique to have found it life changing. What we think about expands, and by thinking about our "gratitudes" we get more good things come into our lives about which we can have more gratitude. It starts to build on itself.

    :-Don
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    Gratitude is living in an act of giving not for what can come back to you, but for what you have been given. Gratitude is freely giving, as we have been freely given, out of a heart of feeling blessed. Thats my two cents on this most important topic.
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    • Profile picture of the author waterotter
      Just one question here! How do we pass our values of appreciation on to the up and coming generation???
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      • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
        Originally Posted by waterotter View Post

        Just one question here! How do we pass our values of appreciation on to the up and coming generation???
        That's a good question. Can appreciation be taught? From what I've seen, telling someone they should be grateful doesn't work, lol.
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        • Profile picture of the author waterotter
          TB, somehow I can't imagine TL's daughter being grateful for not being able to be an "average" teenager, as dad has raised the bar too high.

          I guess if TL was to explain to his daughter 'how grateful' she should be, it will probably backfire - rightfully so!

          Question to all - how would you react growing up with these limitations?

          http://www.warriorforum.com/off-topi...east-18-a.html

          Just some food for thought.
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          • Profile picture of the author Nanaswhimsy
            While both can lead to happiness I don't think appreciation and gratitude are the same thing. I will be 50 next month and I will be finishing up my first college degree this month, the first one in my immediate family to do so. My Mom tells me every day how proud she is, of how hard I have worked to make President's List/Dean's list and to graduate with honors. I am grateful for her pride and my grades but she appreciates my hard work...and we are both happy. See the difference?

            As far as passing it on to the younger generation, if anyone figures it out, I would love some insight because leading by example IS NOT working...maybe I got started too late? LOL
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            • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
              Originally Posted by Nanaswhimsy View Post

              <sni> I am grateful for her pride and my grades but she appreciates my hard work...and we are both happy. See the difference?<snip>
              Interesting. It seems to me that the difference is more about how the words are applied grammatically and how we're accustomed to hearing them used than about their meaning. Your mother can be grateful that you're now so studious.
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              • Profile picture of the author Nanaswhimsy
                Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

                Interesting. It seems to me that the difference seems more about how the words are applied grammatically and how we're accustomed to hearing them used than about their meaning. Your mother can be grateful that you're now so studious.
                But isn't it how they are applied grammatically, ultimately how they are interpreted to mean?
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                • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
                  Originally Posted by Nanaswhimsy View Post

                  But isn't it how they are applied grammatically, ultimately how they are interpreted to mean?
                  It feels different yet, upon reflection, seems to mean the same thing.

                  (I guess that leads to the question, "What is meaning?" I believe meaning is existence, the effects states of energy and matter on each other. Something simply has to exist to have meaning, and entails the existence of non-existence, ie vacuums. What am I talking about? I don't know.)
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  • Profile picture of the author dangtrung
    We all do things in love - for people. Whether it's loving, cooking, shopping, repairing, teaching, listening, sharing, or whatever you give of yourself for another's good; it's a gift. Parents spend many years raising children, instructing them in life's ways. Besides teaching them the rules of life, parents also share their love by supporting, encouraging, and nurturing. Although they are not seeking pats on the back for things they do, it is always joyful to parents when a child appreciates their efforts and shows gratitude and thanks them.
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    • Profile picture of the author waterotter
      Have to admit, I would be very curious to hear TL's take on this!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author promhut729
    "Thanksgiving" is a kind of recognition. This recognition should be from our hearts in a kind of recognition. We live in the natural world, giving us the gift of nature too.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Gratitude and appreciation are two separate feelings. I get wrinkled every time I read something intended to be LOA that pushes gratitude.

    Gratitude is a thankfulness that is given from a perspective of subordination - it suggests that one has been given something that they are not completely entitled to - or through the work of charity, which, in turn, suggests to your subconscious that you are less than the giver.

    Appreciation, on the other hand, is merely pleasure in receiving with no self-depreciation. You do not see yourself as less than the giver, nor as even a bit unworthy. You may feel appreciation for a special birthday gift, but you would not feel gratitude for it.

    When I write or talk about LOA - the difference in these words is one I stress very sharply. It's important to understand that you receive because you are supposed to have what you are getting - there is no charity in that, only natural order. Feeling appreciation or delight at receiving forms an equal two way energy flow, thus strengthening both the giver and the receiver. Feeling gratitude depletes your energy and elevates the giver's and causes an inbalance in energy flow.

    Always appreciate -- never subordinate yourself. You are meant to receive what you get and the giver is equally elevated by the act of giving as you are by the act of receiving.
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    • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Gratitude and appreciation are two separate feelings. I get wrinkled every time I read something intended to be LOA that pushes gratitude.

      Gratitude is a thankfulness that is given from a perspective of subordination - it suggests that one has been given something that they are not completely entitled to - or through the work of charity, which, in turn, suggests to your subconscious that you are less than the giver. <snip>
      Isn't how one perceives the meaning of gratitude a subjective interpretation? Maybe the word has more baggage attached to it for some than for others, I don't know. I'm grateful to people without feeling that I am subservient or inferior to them. I'm grateful to my toddler for making me rediscover things.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    TB - subconsciously "grateful" indicates "obligation" whereas "appreciation" doesn't. For LOA to work correctly there can be no obligation rendered in an exchange. The energy is supposed to be of equal force so it can achieve an amplified vortex. If the amplification takes place only one one end, there is no benefit to the receiver in the long run. Giving and receiving lose their equality of action.

    I have heard others say they don't feel "grateful" as an obligating attitude, but if you look at times you've been "grateful" for receiving something you need and other times where you have "appreciated" it - you will detect at least a slight difference of emotion. I can tell it just from the linguistics that accompany discussions by people who receive and give. It's there, even when very subtle.
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  • Profile picture of the author John M Kane
    When ever I see LOA I think some one forgot to put the "M" right after the "L" and accidentally transposed the "O" and "A"


    Here, I'll fix it fer yah. LMAO


    I appreciate Shaquille O'Neal's talent in basketball.
    I am grateful that at 5'10", I don't have size 22 feet!
    Of course, it might get me more dates if I did.

    NOT Smilin' Bob
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  • Profile picture of the author Don Schenk
    Maybe I should change the name of my gratitude list to my appreciation list?
    Nah -that's not quite right either.

    Much of what is on my gratitude list are occasions in which I have been able to be of help or service to others. Many of the "items" in my list are people I have been lucky enough to get to know. Some of it is about material things which have come into my life, some of it is goal achievement, but no matter what it is, I am glad for it.

    It started out at the suggestion of a friend after a group of us were talking about what was going "right" in our lives. At first I used the list to bring myself "up" emotionally because I had gone through a particularly difficult time in my life. I would read the list and add to it every morning.

    When it began to take more than 20 minutes to read, I recorded it onto a cassette tape (remember those?) to play in the car. Little by little I was able to gain an entirely different attitude about myself and my life. And over the years since I have been writing this list, my life has gotten better and better and better.

    :-Don
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Nice, Don. I, however, like "appreciation" list better. Glad for and grateful aren't the same either. Maybe I just studied psycho-linguistics too long, eh?
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