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15 years ago

I wish I knew what to say. Situations like this can be very difficult, and it can seem impossible at times; however, you can do things to improve your situation.

What did you learn from your "failures"? See, they're not really failures if you learned something. At least now you know a few more things that don't work for you. They may have worked for the people that sold you the products, but everybody is different.

Also, I would highly recommend you check out this thread...

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...desperate.html

It will give you several excellent ideas for improving your situation...and you may also find some comfort there.

Also, see what you can do to give back to people, when you give it creates a different thought process--a helpful thought process. Check out the Warrior Forum and look for threads where you can contribute. Just make sure the threads aren't old, and really try to add value and be helpful.

Things can turn around for you, but it won't be easy.

Hang in there.

All the best,
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15 years ago

Originally Posted by Michael Oksa

What did you learn from your "failures"? See, they're not really failures if you learned something. At least now you know a few more things that don't work for you.

Excellent thought. Thanks Michael

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Jill Carpenter 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Michael Oksa

You're right.

I'm done.

~Michael

I was done a few months ago with this one.

Originally Posted by true900

no not yet

hehe i did guess what? You can read what it says after i put a link where i was trying to make money..

Try linking to a site you own or control - not affiliate links. You've been here more than long enough to know that.

Originally Posted by true900

He has like 5 links in his sig...

That has NOTHING to do with it. All that is needed is one good one to start.

Originally Posted by bauger

What are you exactly good at doing?

He/she is good at posting on this forum every few weeks/months and crying they can't make money.

Seriously. Really?
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  Dude... life is full of failure. Even the most successful have had their fair share of failure. All you really need to do is soldier on and learn from your experiences.
  
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true900

Banned 15 years ago

No i havent learned anything...and i have tried many methods you know... i would like to establish something that makes money and than scale it up.. nothing made me money what i tried. i cant start anywhere

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by true900

No i havent learned anything...and i have tried many methods you know... i would like to establish something that makes money and than scale it up.. nothing made me money what i tried. i cant start anywhere

You have to drop the defeatist attitude, otherwise you will stay defeated.

Follow the link I gave you.

Read the entire thread. Yes, there are a LOT of posts, but you will find something that you can do.

That being said, nobody can help you if you have chosen to give up. Open your mind to the possibilities, not the impossibilities. You are asking for help, so don't fight back against that help when you get it.

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JustFelix

15 years ago

Originally Posted by true900

No i havent learned anything...and i have tried many methods you know... i would like to establish something that makes money and than scale it up.. nothing made me money what i tried. i cant start anywhere

Alright, I can give you something that can make you money.

If you give me like a few days to write up a Free e-book on a way to make money I can send you it to help you out, I promise that you will at least make 3 dollars a day or so. There is no way you can't make any money off this method I will give you. I can't see it happening.

It's 100% free, anyway I need to start writing an e-book soon for my customer at hostpany but I'll be creating this next one dedicated to you.

All I ask is to keep the e-book private. I don't want it flying around freely. PM me if you'd want me to.

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true900

Banned 15 years ago

Originally Posted by ncmedia

More than half of this battle is unfortunately you're "i've failed" attitude.

The cup is half full.

You're going through 'applied learning'.

You're educating yourself with great skill sets.

You probably WILL FAIL A LOT MORE times before you hit success.

You will probably try 5-10 more methods before you find one that works and you can scale.

You will undoubtebly burn through more money, time, and research to truly understand this eco-system.

You will never be successful if you don't believe in yourself ^ And above is a rendition of someone absolutely giving up on themselves and looking to others for justification to their failure only to refute and rebuttle anything anyone says.

Translation = you've already quit, and are now kinda whining < not being an arsehole just being real.

$1 logos? Free websites? Are you serious? If you can't GIVE people free stuff or charge $1 for a logo, mate you might want to consider something else as 'marketing' isn't for everybody and it requires a heck of a lot more than a WSO or some technical steps to follow.

You need to go backwards, UNLEARN the bullsh!t you absorbed/keep repeating, and adjust your fundamentals (or learn them - really learn them don't just skim/skip/do stuff only when it interests you).

First thing is first though - stop looking to others to justify your failures, and if you do - take the advice given don't just discredit everyone beating to your own drum indefinitely on a course to failure because that's what you are doing if you re-read this thread.

Chin up, go back to step one, learn proper fundamentals (NOT through a wso - NOT through a guru - through your own research/trial/error/failures/moves/THROW MORE JAM AT THE WALL).

I've been at this stuff for 13 years, you don't want to know how many times I've failed vs the few big hits I've had. You're not trying hard enough and you're being pulled down the rabbit hole of guru's - step back and realize there is no magic to any of this except for the wizardry the gurus pull on YOU. You have to stop the consumerism and start actually learning the eco-system from the ground up not from a 'build it yourself' unstable tree top.

Yes i put offers up to see if people have brains and set logo price at 1$ and free website design service i got none!?!

How can i forget what i have been reading? Where do i go back and begin again... i really dont uderstand im now confused as ****.

Originally Posted by JustFelix

Alright, I can give you something that can make you money.

If you give me like a few days to write up a Free e-book on a way to make money I can send you it to help you out, I promise that you will at least make 3 dollars a day or so. There is no way you can't make any money off this method I will give you. I can't see it happening.

It's 100% free, anyway I need to start writing an e-book soon for my customer at hostpany but I'll be creating this next one dedicated to you.

All I ask is to keep the e-book private. I don't want it flying around freely. PM me if you'd want me to.

Hey, thanks for great message i sent you a pm.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by true900

No i havent learned anything...and i have tried many methods you know... i would like to establish something that makes money and than scale it up.. nothing made me money what i tried. i cant start anywhere

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true900 Banned 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Matt Maiden

Have you tried a joint and some Jimi Hendrix?

no not yet

Originally Posted by HigherPrThanGod

Maybe you should put a money-making link in your sig?

hehe i did guess what? You can read what it says after i put a link where i was trying to make money..
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  You know right now i could break keyboard on my head but im trying to write nice cuz SOME of you guys are beeing nice too.
  
  Well i already said i offered free website design and 1$ logo design and i got noone contacting me...that makes me think. I dont have 80$ to put a wso soz...
  
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  Ok dude I will bite show me some samples of your design work.
  
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15 years ago

Originally Posted by true900

No i havent learned anything...and i have tried many methods you know... i would like to establish something that makes money and than scale it up.. nothing made me money what i tried. i cant start anywhere

If you are good at designing websites or doing graphic design you can for sure make money on this forum. I have seen some pretty poor designers on this forum, who still are making money, so don't give up.

Build a small portfolio of things you have done. That will help tremendously.

When people see what you can do, its better than just telling them....

If your not great at designing, believe to improve. Look at other designers that are making money and learn what they are doing to make a living.

Never give up....!

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true900

Banned 15 years ago

Yes i have been checking that thread some time ago. I am looking for possibilities but i cant see anything else what i could try... i havent gave up its just sad that nothing works for me after following steps wich says gurantee...

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by true900

Yes i have been checking that thread some time ago. I am looking for possibilities but i cant see anything else what i could try... i havent gave up its just sad that nothing works for me after following steps wich says gurantee...

If some one has guaranteed you results and backed that up with some money back guarantee you can ask for a refund I guess.

But before you ask for a refund if it's possible you might consult the wso seller. You can explain what you have done and he/she might find what you might have done wrong.

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true900

Banned 15 years ago

I have contacted them but havent got any anwser from them....its not about getting a refund its about i cant make anything :S

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Michael Oksa

15 years ago

You're right.

I'm done.

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dudzs

15 years ago

Try working first, like getting something simple like article writing, just to get a fund and think clearly on what you want to do... I guess you need some luck!

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true900

Banned 15 years ago

I am working on things but if nothing earns me money what can i do? im really in desperate situation right now i need money i have dreams and things...

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15 years ago

Just keep trying and never give up

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true900

Banned 15 years ago

Huhh yes i am trying but nothing happens :S id really like to start making something and work on that.

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Paul Myers

15 years ago

I have a question for you: What was your purpose in starting this thread? What result were you hoping for?

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15 years ago

Ever heard of the Pygmalion Effect? Look it up and you will find your answer...

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by true900

I cant belive i failed 1 more time

I was reading a wso that seemed perfect and everything. So i put it in action and bang!! nothing happens... i followed the wso exactly the same, later made few changes, used different sources and things like that. And than bang...still nothing.. I tryed many different techniques and everything but i havent made any money so far...that last one...i was offering a free web desing who wouldnt take that offer? well actually no1 did... im in really bad position now no money, sad and everything :S

So you pick up the pieces and you start again. And if you fall down, you get back up and do it all over again--each time learning something new. If running a business was easy every body and there dog would be doing it.

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Lulu Chil

15 years ago

Hi,

From what I have gathered you have tried different things. Why not stick to one thing and become good at it. Another thing is that Michael has given you a link to a thread with great ideas. Read it a million times and see what you can learn from it.

Sometimes, as people when we are going through a situation we jump from one idea to the next. If I were you, first I would read that thread, second listen to the ideas people are offering, third find something that am good at and lastly get on with doing it.

You need to have a plan and stick with it. Let me ask you something, what do you enjoy doing?

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true900

Banned 15 years ago

Originally Posted by koyaai

Ever heard of the Pygmalion Effect? Look it up and you will find your answer...

I dont understand it :S

Originally Posted by Lulu Chil

Hi,

From what I have gathered you have tried different things. Why not stick to one thing and become good at it. Another thing is that Michael has given you a link to a thread with great ideas. Read it a million times and see what you can learn from it.

Sometimes, as people when we are going through a situation we jump from one idea to the next. If I were you, first I would read that thread, second listen to the ideas people are offering, third find something that am good at and lastly get on with doing it.

You need to have a plan and stick with it. Let me ask you something, what do you enjoy doing?

Well i enjoy doing many things...like doing websites, sometimes graphics but most i enjoy gaming. I also like computers and that stuff.

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buckeyedave

15 years ago

true900 I feel your pain but it sounds like you have things to offer that put you heads and shoulders above me that can make money. I may even need some of the "things' you said you like and are good at!!

it's a hoot that all these money making products "guarantee" you to make money but so many seem to fall short or they want you to upgrade for this and upgrade for that and the next thing you know that make money in 15 minutes product has now cost you $1000!!!!!

I have fallen for these products which I am sure most out here did when they first tried.

I have no site, no blog, no product, I am 60 and starting to learn from the bottom what steps to take. Crawl before walk, walk before run, etc. My point to this last statement is never stop trying and just start trying what should work even if it takes time. ( sigh )

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true900

Banned 15 years ago

Ok first guys thanks for anwsers

Originally Posted by ncmedia

You seem to want a magic hand to come down and just give you a magic pill to fix it all.

STOP BUYING stuff - throw more jam at the wall - stop undervaluing your worth and looking for shortcuts - you obviously do NOT understand the eco-system you're playing in yet and you want success so bad you're looking for guidance in all the right places but wrong ways and wrong approach. Learn from those mistakes you're making, take from them and move on, do not keep repeating the same sh!te (buy new wso, fail, repeat).

Nobody is going to just give you a blueprint and chances are it won't work for you the way it did for them - keep trucking. My bet? You're NOT actually working x hours a day. You're reading, clicking around your tabs, doing a lil' test on a first draft small scale and calling it a fail... amirite? If you do actual work x hours a day for a week straight writing good articles, making good videos, getting GREAT content out there and split testing your landing pages - you would have sales.

It's funny watching people spend a year looking for shortcuts running rampant ending up farther behind and more lost than when they first started vs. those that don't mind absorbing the right fundamentals and DOING the darn tasks themselves until they have something to automate/grow from before dumping it and moving on.

I think you should read the rabbit and turtle story.

NC.

EDIT: here you go - now pretend the racers are marketers, all the obstacles and rubbish along the race is your learning curve/speedbumps (including other racers/marketers), and the finish line is 'success'.

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I have kinda stopped buying wsos some time ago. Im really confused right now, im not working x hours a day for something, but i sent a lot emails and posts on forums as guided by wso and not even single contact back...should i send 10 times more emails? not really cuz ill get zero anwsers again.

Im not really trying to get some shortcuts or something, im just trying to make something to make money and than scale it up and work on that. But how can i think when i made no money so far?

Originally Posted by buckeyedave

true900 I feel your pain but it sounds like you have things to offer that put you heads and shoulders above me that can make money. I may even need some of the "things' you said you like and are good at!!

it's a hoot that all these money making products "guarantee" you to make money but so many seem to fall short or they want you to upgrade for this and upgrade for that and the next thing you know that make money in 15 minutes product has now cost you $1000!!!!!

I have fallen for these products which I am sure most out here did when they first tried.

I have no site, no blog, no product, I am 60 and starting to learn from the bottom what steps to take. Crawl before walk, walk before run, etc. My point to this last statement is never stop trying and just start trying what should work even if it takes time. ( sigh )

Dave

Well i can offer tons of stuff...i have learned over years i can do many things, i just cant get customer. people will not pay 1$ for logo worh 10mil $, or they wont take a free website. How should i think after trying to give people free website and they dont take it? Im not going to give people money to make money Oo. :S

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true900

Banned 15 years ago

Yes im getting a lot of days off im doing nothing...

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PatrickP

15 years ago

If you think you will fail you are correct.

If you think you will succeed you are correct.

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true900 Banned 15 years ago

Originally Posted by PatrickP

If you think you will fail you are correct.

If you think you will succeed you are correct.

That is not <insert my name here -900> at all...
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true900

Banned 15 years ago

He has like 5 links in his sig...

I tried to offer for 1$ after offering for 50$ made nothing...magically offering at 1$ made the same... i had protofilo website with logos and websites yes...

I know nothing will make magic ere i did the work and i tried few times and different sources.

That ha nothing to do what i think...

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by true900

I cant belive i failed 1 more time

I was reading a wso that seemed perfect and everything. So i put it in action and bang!! nothing happens... i followed the wso exactly the same, later made few changes, used different sources and things like that. And than bang...still nothing.. I tryed many different techniques and everything but i havent made any money so far...that last one...i was offering a free web desing who wouldnt take that offer? well actually no1 did... im in really bad position now no money, sad and everything :S

How much action have you put in? Time spent per WSO?

Where did you offer your free web design? I'll take it...
I've got all kinds of work for you if you want to work for free.

Have a website or two we can view? A portfolio?

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true900

Banned 15 years ago

I wasnt counting myself, but i did steps as guided by in wso.

i sent my free web design offer to people on craigslist, forums.

No more website i had to cancel my hosting beacuse money problems.

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Patrick

15 years ago

Originally Posted by true900

I wasnt counting myself, but i did steps as guided by in wso.

i sent my free web design offer to people on craigslist, forums.

No more website i had to cancel my hosting beacuse money problems.

If you can do website design then why dont you offer your services in odesk and freelancer ?

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Cool Hand Luke

15 years ago

You have been handed enough advice in this thread already.

After being told to keep trying, and even being given new methods to try, you still seem to just repeat "Waaahhh, a WSO didn't work for me, I cant do this"

Either take the advice given or don't. Continuing to cry about it isn't going to help at all.

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bauger

15 years ago

What are you exactly good at doing?

List the skill you are proficient and give samples. You can always use a blogger blog to put samples on. Like screen shots of website or whatever you are good at.

i would definitely look at it

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Isaiah Jackson

15 years ago

I got to say I agree with ncmedia here it would also be a good idea to stick to ONE thing and not 50, it seems that is a problem with a lot of people starting out they don't make anything when the make a purchase so they see everything as a failure.

Have you tried going to fiverr and making some gigs to sell to people, do you make graphics and sell them on the forum or scriptlance,are you good at writing you can sell your article writing service if your good at it. Tell what was the last thing you done or tried that didn't work go into details about it look over it, you may spot a flaw in something, that you may have overlooked or didn't even think about doing.

Point blank you just need to keep trying, I've failed online several times and I found a way to get it to work for me doing something that I am good at and enjoy doing.

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15 years ago

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true900

Banned 15 years ago

Originally Posted by bauger

What are you exactly good at doing?

List the skill you are proficient and give samples. You can always use a blogger blog to put samples on. Like screen shots of website or whatever you are good at.

i would definitely look at it

I dont have any samples anymore. Im not really good anywhere...creating website (i dont do whole myself i get already made template), graphics (not very good at it), playing games (best).

Originally Posted by Isaiah Jackson

I got to say I agree with ncmedia here it would also be a good idea to stick to ONE thing and not 50, it seems that is a problem with a lot of people starting out they don't make anything when the make a purchase so they see everything as a failure.

Have you tried going to fiverr and making some gigs to sell to people, do you make graphics and sell them on the forum or scriptlance,are you good at writing you can sell your article writing service if your good at it. Tell what was the last thing you done or tried that didn't work go into details about it look over it, you may spot a flaw in something, that you may have overlooked or didn't even think about doing.

Point blank you just need to keep trying, I've failed online several times and I found a way to get it to work for me doing something that I am good at and enjoy doing.

Im trying to stick with 1 but nothing worked for me. If i'd find something works for me id stick to that. I put gigs on fiverr no1 contacted me its too much people there. I do graphics but no1 buys that its too much people doing that...write cheap logo on google you will get trilion bilion fuick**** companies doing that (im losing my mind sry), no im not good at writing. last thing i tried is to get people to which i would build a free website and got noone.

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Michael D Forbes 15 years ago

This thread is pure madness. If the OP didn't have so many posts I would be sure this is a TROLOL - like the video above, without the last O.

I've never heard so many excuses in my life.

You say you're best at playing games... maybe you should just stick to that.
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15 years ago

Seems like your stuck in the mind frame that "there are too many people doing it" first of all you know how many people on the planet may need something done, there are never enough people for anything. If you do graphics and are good at writing use those both together to try and get something started instead of just using one.

Its starting to get to the point that all you seem to do is post on this forum about how you haven't made any money, instead of crying about it you could have did something else with your time maybe work on making your own product to get the ball rolling or making a youtube video about how to do something anything could work.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by true900

I cant belive i failed 1 more time

I was reading a wso that seemed perfect and everything. So i put it in action and bang!! nothing happens... i followed the wso exactly the same, later made few changes, used different sources and things like that. And than bang...still nothing.. I tryed many different techniques and everything but i havent made any money so far...that last one...i was offering a free web desing who wouldnt take that offer? well actually no1 did... im in really bad position now no money, sad and everything :S

Typical

I always read everything carefully first, then research then finally make my mind up. Mind sharing the WSO you bought?:rolleyes:

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annecrew

15 years ago

That was only trial,just keep on moving on,We learn to our mistakes,and nothing can take away the experienced we gain..

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dagaul101

15 years ago

It's unfortunate but you have to take into account, many niches have become tried and tested to the point of saturation

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true900

Banned 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Micheal D Forbes

This thread is pure madness. If the OP didn't have so many posts I would be sure this is a TROLOL - like the video above, without the last O.

I've never heard so many excuses in my life.

You say you're best at playing games... maybe you should just stick to that.

And how could i make money with that?

Originally Posted by Isaiah Jackson

Seems like your stuck in the mind frame that "there are too many people doing it" first of all you know how many people on the planet may need something done, there are never enough people for anything. If you do graphics and are good at writing use those both together to try and get something started instead of just using one.

Its starting to get to the point that all you seem to do is post on this forum about how you haven't made any money, instead of crying about it you could have did something else with your time maybe work on making your own product to get the ball rolling or making a youtube video about how to do something anything could work.

I have my own product and what now? i am trying to do something when i can i just dont know what should i do...

Originally Posted by ramohr

Ok dude I will bite show me some samples of your design work.

I need a wesite design for my mobile coupon site and a log
for text here 2 save.com

Show me your stuff and I will put you on the map

Where do I send the paypal payment for the $1 logo

I dont have any samples as i never got any customer to purchase something.

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kakaboo 15 years ago

I dont have any samples as i never got any customer to purchase something.

Ugh you are supposed to make samples and then show it to people so that they will buy from you and become your customers.. not the other way around.

And I am pretty sure if I was your customer I wouldn't want you to be showing off the work you did for me as your "samples" and outing my sites :confused:
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Kay King 15 years ago

As the OP just bought a new $1000 a day WSO, I'm sure things will be looking up soon.

It's frustrating to see complaints from those who say they can't afford domains and hosting but can find the money for "big dream" WSOs.
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Banned 15 years ago

Why you wouldnt want some free clicks? Most people build protofilo like that...

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Kay King 15 years ago

Why you wouldnt want some free clicks? Most people build protofilo like that...

You are dead wrong about that. You continue to argue with advice - but you are the one posting on and on about "no money". If you "know" how everything is done - why aren't you successful?

After almost a year of the same questions and complaints - I think you need to get a job to earn money.
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true900

Banned 15 years ago

I know your trolling

And dont tell me what should i do ok?

I wanna make money with im and i will.

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Kay King 15 years ago

And dont tell me what should i do ok?

And that's why you just started your fifth thread on how to find keywords. When someone asks you a question about your methodology, you ignore the question. When someone tells you what you are doing is wrong - you say that's not what you want to hear.

Yep - I'm a troll. Whatever.

You can stomp your foot and demand people answer as you want them to - but YOU are the one not making money so that might not be the best approach.
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Banned 15 years ago

Yes because i never get an anwser i want... im not ignoring any help tho.

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