Please help with spammers

by Joe Ox
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I've got 4 of this spamming emails today and 2 yesterday:

Hello and Good Day!

My name is Saheen, Marketing Manager for an international marketing company based in India While studying your website I couldn't help noticing it lacked any significant ranking in Google. As you already suspect, this means your site is virtually invisible to potential customers searching for a supplier in your field.

It's as though you'd made an expensive TV ad and then forgotten to buy any airtime for people to see it. My company can solve this problem for you. We are an ISO 9001 and Google Accredited Company, with over 9 years experience in the field of Search Engine Optimization. We have the expertise to send hundreds, or even thousands, of customers to your website. We can tell you quickly.

·Make your website visible on Search Engines!
· Improve your business website ranking!
·What this would cost!!

If you'd like to know this information, you're welcome to write back and ask. I look forward to hearing from you.

Best Regards,
Saheen


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I've sent an email to their host and domain name registrar but nothing happened and I keep receiving their crap.

How do I get rid of them?

and how do I avoid this to happen in the future?

Thx
  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    I just block them in my email program - that way I don't see another email from them.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe Ox
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      I just block them in my email program - that way I don't see another email from them.
      But they send spam from different email addresses? If I block one, then I still get them. Don't I?

      Also I use roundcube email, I'm not sure it has the option of blocking people...
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  • Profile picture of the author l23bc
    Originally Posted by Joe Ox View Post

    I've got 4 of this spamming emails today and 2 yesterday:

    Hello and Good Day!

    My name is Saheen, Marketing Manager for an international marketing company based in India While studying your website I couldn't help noticing it lacked any significant ranking in Google. As you already suspect, this means your site is virtually invisible to potential customers searching for a supplier in your field.

    It's as though you'd made an expensive TV ad and then forgotten to buy any airtime for people to see it. My company can solve this problem for you. We are an ISO 9001 and Google Accredited Company, with over 9 years experience in the field of Search Engine Optimization. We have the expertise to send hundreds, or even thousands, of customers to your website. We can tell you quickly.

    ·Make your website visible on Search Engines!
    · Improve your business website ranking!
    ·What this would cost!!

    If you'd like to know this information, you're welcome to write back and ask. I look forward to hearing from you.

    Best Regards,
    Saheen


    ************************************************** **********************************
    Disclaimer: people whom we find eligible of using our services. To unsubscribe from future mails (i.e., to ensure that we do not contact you again for this matter), please send a blank email with NO as Subject.


    I've sent an email to their host and domain name registrar but nothing happened and I keep receiving their crap.

    How do I get rid of them?

    and how do I avoid this to happen in the future?

    Thx
    Did you register for whoisprivicy on opening your website or business site i suspect the senders are looking you up by whois registar details to find out your email address & using some type of software from many accounts to spam, I know some Cpanel allows on the site if you use the email facilty you can ban and filter your email to other accounts or block but its a case of your own email provider and spotting the messages before they are opened (by headlines) that why you can just block And remove

    If there using autoresponders to send the message or buying lists you could track the provider and report them, apart from i suspect they got your email from your website or a forum or opt in page you may have signed up for making it very harder to block
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe Ox
      Originally Posted by l23bc View Post

      Did you register for whoisprivicy on opening your website or business site i suspect the senders are looking you up by whois registar details to find out your email address & using some type of software from many accounts to spam,
      Yes, I'm using the whois privacy thing.
      I have never posted this email on the internet, but it's the email I use to send my newsletter. Maybe someone subscribed and took the email?
      Or maybe they can get it from the contact form on my website?
      I don't know.

      Originally Posted by l23bc View Post

      I know some Cpanel allows on the site if you use the email facilty you can ban and filter your email to other accounts or block but its a case of your own email provider and spotting the messages before they are opened (by headlines) that why you can just block
      Ok thank you.
      I'm with hostgator, I'll check about this option. Thanks.


      Originally Posted by l23bc View Post

      If there using autoresponders to send the message or buying lists you could track the provider and report them, apart from i suspect they got your email from your website or a forum or opt in page you may have signed up for making it very harder to block
      Some email come from a domain name and I've reported it to their host and domain name registrar.
      Other emails come from gmail.

      Thank you for your help!
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  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    Reality check. You are always going to get SPAM emails. Live with it.
    There are steps you can take to minimize it,but there is nothing that I am aware of that can stop it.
    They use fake everything.
    Sender names ( I've sent myself email according to some of the SPAM I get).
    Fake return addresses. ( You can view the header source to find real information,but most dont know that or how to do that).
    As Kay said,you can block them some times,and use filters to weed them out.
    If your email client doesn't let you go these things,look into other clients.

    And of course the last thing is that if your email address is on the internet any where, some scraper is going to get it and the problem will start over again.

    Good Luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Joe - here's another issue that Kim forgot to mention.

    DON'T answer those emails even if it's just to tell them to FO. When you answer an email they know they have an active email and may sell it to other spammers. Just mark it spam and then toss it into spam. Most spam filters are intelligent now and will learn to tell those when they come in if you mark them as spam.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe Ox
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Joe - here's another issue that Kim forgot to mention.

      DON'T answer those emails even if it's just to tell them to FO. When you answer an email they know they have an active email and may sell it to other spammers. Just mark it spam and then toss it into spam. Most spam filters are intelligent now and will learn to tell those when they come in if you mark them as spam.
      Oohhhhhhhhhhhhh....
      too late now, I've already replied...

      well, I guess I learned my lesson...
      thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by Joe Ox View Post

        Oohhhhhhhhhhhhh....
        too late now, I've already replied...

        well, I guess I learned my lesson...
        thanks
        Yeah, that is the insidious thing. The law demands that they have an unsubscribe, and you can't even use it because heysale IS right. The sad part that she didn't mention is that, nine times out of ten, if they DON'T get a response, they know the email is good!

        YEP, you heard right! If they get a response *****FROM YOU*****, they KNOW the email is good, and YOU READ IT!!!!! That is their GOAL! If they DON'T get a response *****FROM ANOTHER EMAIL SERVER***** they KNOW the email is likely good. At least they don't know you read it.

        Email is like the worst system ever, but it is made to be redundant. When someone sends you mail, it goes elsewhere, is stored, and it tries to send it to another system in the same way. Eventually, it gets to the right address, unless there is a problem. If it encounters a problem too many times, an error is sent to the sender. So a lack of that error tells them the email address is good.

        Of course, that doesn't mean it is your MAIN email, or even that anyone reads it.

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        • Profile picture of the author Joe Ox
          Originally Posted by seasoned View Post


          YEP, you heard right! If they get a response *****FROM YOU*****, they KNOW the email is good, and YOU READ IT!!!!! That is their GOAL! If they DON'T get a response *****FROM ANOTHER EMAIL SERVER***** they KNOW the email is likely good. At least they don't know you read it.

          Steve
          Ok, so basically what should I do?

          Create some filters so they get flagged as spam? or What?

          Thanks!
          Joe
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          • Profile picture of the author seasoned
            Originally Posted by Joe Ox View Post

            Ok, so basically what should I do?

            Create some filters so they get flagged as spam? or what?

            Thanks!
            Joe
            Well, as I recall, spam assassin was pretty good. http://spamassassin.apache.org/ You could enable it, if it is an option, and tell it what s spam. It was surprisingly good, as I recall.

            Many spammers use known techniques, and send the same patterns, and communities report enough that algorithms find the best way to handle it. YOU obviously can't reply, or even ask to unsubscribe.

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  • Profile picture of the author Joe Ox
    You were right... I got more spam from them just today.
    I installed spamassassin, and set up some filters,
    lets hope it gets better,

    thanks
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