LCD or Plasma?

17 years ago

plasma is old school from what I know.
I have one and it kicks out huge amounts of heat!
Not supposed to last as long I read also.
New age schtupf is OLED. I think a partnership with Kodak and Panasonic.
Organic LED. No backlight needed so, efficient, thinner and more flexible, lighter weight.

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Michael Motley

17 years ago

I also have a plasma. ridiculous heat, good picture though

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Liquification

17 years ago

LCD is the way to go now man. Plasma had its run but, LCD has the same picture now and more plus side. LCD wasn't big for a long time because the picture looked terrible when scaled above 30 inches. They have now worked that out and you can't really tell the difference between them and plasma anymore. Plus they have no chance of Burn In and they will last three times as long as a plasma.

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danieljohansson

17 years ago

LCD is the right one! Modern LCD:s has the same quality as PLASMA and are using less energy. Longer lifetime.

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kobe24

17 years ago

Plasma does have much better color reception, but the only reason I would suggest to stay away from it is because the plasma tends to go out after 4 or more years and that affects the color reception therefore making the life span not so long.

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metafever

17 years ago

Well . . I have a 58in Plasma in our media room . . and I can say that it does produce a ton of heat!

I think when this one gives up the ghost, I am going to go buy a LED (LCD) . . . I think thats the latest crazy.

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Star69

17 years ago

Has anyone noticed the taillights of certain cars with LCD lamps back there? Have you noticed the ones that have some of the LCDs burned out or not functioning?

Will LCD tvs do the same thing after a few years? Have a bunch of individual LCD bulbs burned out?

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borischileno 17 years ago

i got my plasma in our great room but only to serve the guest, watch hockey or soccer or watch a movie.
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hfm

17 years ago

Personally, I would recommend LCD. Better picture and crisp, excellent for gaming as well. Consoles looks superb on LCD compared to plasma.

Another thing, I haven't checked this in a while. But I used to remember that plasma TVs gets stained after have a fixed image there for a while. Is it still the same?

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CocoChanelle

17 years ago

plasma out, lcd in of course that depends on price.

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borischileno

17 years ago

the main difference with plasma I find the picture quality, and lcd tend to block certain colours. The Lcd is more environmental friendly, the power consumption is far less than the plasma.

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andr102

17 years ago

LCD. Plasma has bright picture only 2 years and then it starts pale

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CTABUK

17 years ago

LSD man, see two pictures. Then fly with the birds.

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seasoned

17 years ago

LCD and LED are NOWHERE NEAR the same thing! LED generate light, and may be used to BACKLIGHT LCD. LCDs BEND light! OLED is a type of LED, but apparently better, but LCDs use FAR less power.

PLASMA, in theory, is more likely to fail, uses MORE power, and generates heat. LEDs generate a relatively small amount of heat, and LCDs generate close to NO heat. BTW I have not known LEDs to break outside of damage or excess power.

Steve

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Mike Wright

17 years ago

As someone who was actually working with Led and Lcd technologies
in the late 1960's ....plus some involvement with plasma physics, I
thought you folks might benefit from a read of this article ......

LCD vs. Plasma Screen Displays: Technology Comparison — Reviews and News from Audioholics

Takes a while to load ...so be patient.

Some of the latest lcd screens with led backlights are very efficient
and in use in some of the currently available laptops as well. Other
technologies such as OLED and comparable alternatives are at last
coming or about to emerge into the marketplace. My Motorola F3
cellphone has a virtually indestructable OLED screen ...and benefits
from significantly longer talk/standby times.

Plasma screens essentially use old type CRT technology ... use
considerable amounts of energy .... and tend to become "gassy"
after a few years which severely degrades the image quality just
like with CRT TVs/monitors. There are some companies around which
can reprocess such duff plasma screens at some cost.

Finally, the actual quality of the image seen significantly depends
on the optical characteristics of the front glass and optical filter
coating. This is where some at least of the extra cost of high-end
screens brings much better image quality for the viewer.

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Paul Myers 17 years ago

But I used to remember that plasma TVs gets stained after have a fixed image there for a while. Is it still the same?

It takes a lot longer, and it's reversible, at least with the newer models (last 2 years, I think.) I'm told that a fast way to get rid of burn-in is to play a Pixar movie. The pure, bright colors supposedly have more of an effect in reducing it.

As far as TV life, you need to consider your usage patterns. Any TV will last me a lot longer than the "average," because I watch a lot less TV than most households. The extra heat is an issue when it's warm enough to become uncomfortable, which is a small chunk of the year where I live.

Power consumption is another matter. LCDs are said to be more efficient in that aspect. And some of them (not all, by any stretch) are better for gaming.

Consider how you're going to use the thing, not what someone else says based on their preferences.

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seasoned

17 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Wright

As someone who was actually working with Led and Lcd technologies
in the late 1960's ....plus some involvement with plasma physics, I
thought you folks might benefit from a read of this article ......

LCD vs. Plasma Screen Displays: Technology Comparison — Reviews and News from Audioholics

Takes a while to load ...so be patient.

Some of the latest lcd screens with led backlights are very efficient
and in use in some of the currently available laptops as well. Other
technologies such as OLED and comparable alternatives are at last
coming or about to emerge into the marketplace. My Motorola F3
cellphone has a virtually indestructable OLED screen ...and benefits
from significantly longer talk/standby times.

Plasma screens essentially use old type CRT technology ... use
considerable amounts of energy .... and tend to become "gassy"
after a few years which severely degrades the image quality just
like with CRT TVs/monitors. There are some companies around which
can reprocess such duff plasma screens at some cost.

Finally, the actual quality of the image seen significantly depends
on the optical characteristics of the front glass and optical filter
coating. This is where some at least of the extra cost of high-end
screens brings much better image quality for the viewer.

I just realized. HOW were you working with LCDs in the late 60s? According to wikipedia, the patent for real use was filed in 1970 and, in the US, wasn't practical until 1972. I didn't get my first LCD device until like the mid 70s. In the early 70s, LED watches were popular. Had an LCD watch would have come out in the US, it would have been a HIT and CORNERED THE MARKET!

Steve

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Mike Wright

17 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

I just realized. HOW were you working with LCDs in the late 60s? According to wikipedia, the patent for real use was filed in 1970 and, in the US, wasn't practical until 1972. I didn't get my first LCD device until like the mid 70s. In the early 70s, LED watches were popular. Had an LCD watch would have come out in the US, it would have been a HIT and CORNERED THE MARKET!

Steve

Defence R&D is years ahead ... I was also working on solid state lasers
in the same decade and much more besides. The US does not have a monopoly on tech R&D .... although it is very good at translating technology into volume production in relevant marketplaces.

For security and commercial confidence reasons, it can be decades before
such technologies come into public knowlege and consumer markets.
Intensive searching of Scientific papers and the back numbers of
emminent Scientific/Engineering journals may provvide some confirmation
of the facts ...whereas Wikipedia is less than reliable on many counts.
One of the best ways to keep stuff secret is NOT to patent it!

It still amazes me that this laptop I am using is largely dependent on
technology being developed some 40/45 years ago by my colleagues
and myself. Been there, done that, can't talk about much of it even
nowadays Steve

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seasoned

17 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Wright

Defence R&D is years ahead ... I was also working on solid state lasers
in the same decade and much more besides. The US does not have a monopoly on tech R&D .... although it is very good at translating technology into volume production in relevant marketplaces.

For security and commercial confidence reasons, it can be decades before
such technologies come into public knowlege and consumer markets.
Intensive searching of Scientific papers and the back numbers of
emminent Scientific/Engineering journals may provvide some confirmation
of the facts ...whereas Wikipedia is less than reliable on many counts.
One of the best ways to keep stuff secret is NOT to patent it!

It still amazes me that this laptop I am using is largely dependent on
technology being developed some 40/45 years ago by my colleagues
and myself. Been there, done that, can't talk about much of it even
nowadays Steve

Well, 45 years ago was like 1964, and ICs WERE around then. Of course, they were relatively new, so they were TINY(small scale integration. The traces were FAR larger than today.) by today's standards. A simple amplifier took almost as much space as the 8080 did. HECK, many amplifiers came in packages no smaller than 128kb ICs, and THEY were larger than the 4Gb chips today. Solid state lasers, likewise, were around early, but not quite as good.

Still, LCDs don't have any direct military applications, and LEDs were POPULAR and probably had MORE direct military applications. HECK, the solid state laser is apparently based on the LED.

And YEAH, I know, patenting stuff makes things public. That fact helped win WWII!! STILL, patents ARE supposed to be based on things that have no prior art, and many military things ARE patented, etc. HECK, the stealth bomber was based on published russian studies, and I bet a lot of technology there is patented, even if not in a real usable way.

Still, anyone assembling computers realizes that the guts of the PC have changed relatively little. the traces are smaller, so they could fit more on the chip, etc... They added multiple caches and pipelines to make them appear faster, etc.... but I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the most inner core even LOOKED similar to the 4004. Even the USB, etc... are probably not THAT different from the RS232C(A standard that started in perhaps the 60s, and continued until perhaps the 1990s).

Steve

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seasoned 17 years ago

Originally Posted by nouman zafar

Plasma is a old fashion. LCD is the best because it consumes ultra rays which effects the human eyes.

ACTUALLY, your reasoning is faulty. LCD does NOT absorb rays. It REFLECTS them! Plasma and LED generate. SO, by your reasoning, shouldn't LCD be WORSE? STILL it is far from perfect, and light rays are going to hit your eyes anyway.

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shahd

17 years ago

Has to be LCD in my opinion...

The picture quality is up there with plasma, plus they are less energy hungry and generally thinner due to the difference in technology.

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Emma Ngin

17 years ago

it's a definite LCD for me. Yes plasma gives better resolution... but it can definitely make a room hotter as opposed to owning LCD. C",)

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nitinjain

17 years ago

The main advantage of using LCD is for security purpose. I think all could knew that we can't see the LCD monitor from the side view; these feature really make a sense. And also using LCD would save some when compare to plasma.

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markbrown0316

17 years ago

LCD for me. I just like it

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TeddyP

17 years ago

Depends on where you are going to have the TV and what you are going to use it for.

If you want to watch a lot of fast action sports Plasma is a better choice probably. I think LCDs are better in sunny rooms, but Plasma has better viewing angles.

Each have their place, but like someone mentioned there are some interesting LED Tv's out there.

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haikuangel

17 years ago

In my experience, I would reccomend LCD over plasma for two basic reasons: 1) Plasma is by far more expensive than LCD, I dont know why but there seems to be a major price difference between plasma and lcd when it has almost the same picture and color quality. 2) Plasma has relatively high radiation and heat dispersion- really bad for the eyes.

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tUNU52

17 years ago

I like LCD for it's picture quality and price.

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sdboyle

17 years ago

Most of the comments regarding Plasma TVs are referring to the older verisions. Newer models have significantly reduced energy consumption and heat emissions.

TeddyP hit the nail on the head. It really depends on where you will be viewing the TV and what you will be watching.

LCD is easier to see in bright conditions (which is why they tend to look better than Plasmas under shop/store lights) but this can be a problem when viewing in dimmer light. Plasma TVs have better resolution and a 'truer' picture and cope better with fast moving pictures - especially if watching High Def (HD) pictures. LCD pictures tend to be artificially enhanced both in terms of vividness of colour and sharpness of picture edges and when watching fast moving images, especially in HD, LCDs can tend to 'ghost' slightly.

The 'burn-in' issue can affect both types but older plasmas especially. This, again, has been significantly addressed in newer models of both types (although you do need to be careful especially in the first days of viewing).

The list of comparisons goes on (and on!) and, apart from the people who will naturally favour one type over the other, they both have their pros & cons.

If you are considering spending a fortune on a new TV, its worth reading up on some of the specialized forums where the real experts will tell you more than you could possibly wish to know!

I'm just about to buy a new TV and have gone cross-eyed from hours of reading multiple reviews of both types - which is why I now know quite a bit about the subject!

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