Feelings Or Logic?

I'd agree that logic will give the logical person better results...

LOL ...

No, like being pedantic enough to point out that those are HLOC-bars, not "candlesticks"!

I see Sal on the Feely side too. The Feely...chokey...fist fighty....kicky...strangley side.

(Not in the face! Not in the face!)

I knew it. Dennis is secretly "Two-Face", enemy of Batman!

Mr X has a wife and 2 young children, he has a reasonable paid 8-5, 40 hour week job with evenings and weekends free, that allows them to own a modest house, car and have vacations. Not poor or rich, just average. His wife's a stay at home mother.

Mr X does not want to pay for college or university to further his prospects for a better job, he can not really afford it but it's not his passion in life although he does not hate it. He doubts his drive and ambition in these areas. His intelligence is a little above average.

He has a little time to go on the computer after work and began to look at IM. He tried out some things and made a little money. He learned about how you could possibly automate things, speed things up and scale up. This would take considerable time to do, set up, develop, learn etc and it would also take quite a while to equal and surpass his day job salary. He finds it fun, a challenge and enjoys doing it and felt sure he could make it work. It was all very logical and straightforward. Just needed time and effort.

But there he is working 40 hours which is tiring, has a wife and 2 young kids who crave his attention which makes him feel guilty and does not want to feel he is neglecting them.

So he sees a logical path to increased prosperity but is held back by his situation and emotions like guilt. Feelings getting in the way of logic.

So, what does he do to get past this impasse?

My view would be too go half way, make it clear to his family that he wants to try this out but not spend all of his time away from his day job on the computer but do half the time. And, make some extra money to improve their situation which they would obviously benefit from. If it really took off it would just be showing his wife what he could achieve and then making an extra effort to reach the goal with her blessing because she knew it would not be forever

So his path was ultimately logic, he balanced the emotions, feelings and guilt and adjusted the path so that the impact was lessened. I see that as adaptive logic but still a logical progression taking a modified path based on the existence of emotions, feelings, social conditions etc and allowing for them and incorporating and balancing them into the scheme of his ultimate goal.

Dennis; People who buy art for investment are using logic. But people who buy art for the way it looks are using emotion. Frankly, I forgot about the investment angle.

I was actually thinking about buying furniture today (as it relates to this).

My furniture salesman asked me (on my last buying trip 7 years ago);

"How long do you want this piece to last?"

First of all, it's a smart selling question. The purpose to ask it isn't emotional. But think of the possible answers;

"Forever"
"As long as I'm alive"
"Long enough to pass it on to my kids"
"As long as the home lasts"
"Until we decide to move"
"As long as it can last, for a low price"

All these answers may sound logical. But what drives the answer is nearly all emotional.

An answer based on logic?

"Four years"

Decisions may sound logical, but what drives a decision is almost totally emotion and instinct.

Patients who have had severe damage to their temporal lobes (the seat of emotion), in adult life, find decision making very hard. They keep weighing the variables. They are not motivated..

Anyway, I obviously have a compulsion to add thoughts. Whether asked for or not.

And I tend to agree with you. nearly every thought is a mix. I personally think they are just two parts of the same process.

Yep. Board games. I suck at them, with the exception of Monopoly. I had a lady friend a few years ago that loved to play Scrabble. She also loved to rub it in on how horrible I was at it considering, "you're a bigshot writer with all your fancy vocabulary..."

I tried to tell her that Scrabble is a strategy game and not a vocabulary exercise. There are some things I just don't qualify or quantify in terms of planning and foreseeing the immediate or even long term consequences. I look at all those tiles sitting there on the table and get a woozy feeling in my stomach like I felt on my first day of kindergarten.

But then there's stuff like Monopoly and Poker where I have the opportunity to interact competitively (don't ask me why I don't get this "feeling" with other games) and I just know which moves to make.

I think you hit the kernal. We process information we've encountered over and over subconsciously. It's familiar on one level but we don't often think about it. To me that's a feeling. To someone more analytically inclined maybe it's advanced logic working. I'm not really inclined to want to know how everything works.