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My 6000th post...

by John Durham
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I am John Durham.

I have more thanks to my name than actual posts. This is my 6000th post and I doubt that I will ever reach 7,000, because, since Allen left, this place has become a shithole... and I doubt that any newcomer will ever have the wonderful experience that I had here. I hope to give you a hint of that in this post.

Please cherish it.

When the internet was new, which many of you were born into. It was amazing. The WF was at the very forefront of it. Allen Says, was amazing.

At first he was the main poster, and we all hung on every word he said. Sure, he had times when he was a jerk (seemingly) , but Hey! We are ALL that. We all have that. We all have good, bad, and down right ugly.... but some of us give our heart and soul. Allen did that, and it was beyond words, AMAZING. He was the greatest catalyst of internet money making that will EVER be seen.


We all learned.


And he created in us a "family"... through deep insight.


I have been a Warrior since 1999 although my stats dont show it.

Some will hate me for saying this, but I think I was the Warrior that caused them to start the "offline forum", which in my opinion, is the greatest sub forum on the WF... I had threads in the main forum (about "offline") that generated 60, 70 80,000 views, and I think they saw the potential in it...and around 2007 or 8, they started a forum that was totally dedicated to "offline"

Not only have I been a leader, and lover of the people at WF, but I have also raised thousands upon thousands, upon tens, and upon hundreds of thousands of dollars for charities within the WF, without taking a penny... The WF and its people have been so good to me, in history that is soo far past that you may never remember it....that I wanted to give back to our family.

That is my nature.

The first time people recieved a report from me, I was so humble and thankful that I started a free forum for them, because I thought they needed more guidance than just a report. I was offended , originally, when people wanted to SELL within th for5um I created, because to me it was just a gift.


So anyway...

Thats where I come from. I certainly don't need WF popularity, in order to succeed anymore...so Im just gonna say what I think.

I promoted Claude Whitakeres... I promoted Jason Kannigans.... I had little regard for money, (though I made alot) , and I only thought of "helping" and giving back.


The guys I have promoted have become more successful than even myself... I don't care about that anymore... there was a time when it bugged me, but I have my own thing, and its all good. Don't need to be popular, or cry about the people I helped who diss me today.

Today....

I dont rely on the WF.... but I will always honor it, love it, and be thankful for it.
To me... When I see the ords "Warrior Forum" in my mind, I only see Bkay, and Paul Meyers, and George Wright... That's what it means to me. I love them and thank God for them.


Moving on...

The WF was the ABSOLUTE greatest forum on the internet for learning to make money...

Now it seems its just a bunch of snarky jerks, entertaining themselves by cutting down the newbies and laughing within their own clicks... and they are just as stupid as the newbies... they found a way to make success, and that makes them think they know it all...when , really, they only know their own way.

It seems that the true desire to help is gone. The desire to be popular among elites, seems to be the big thing.

My own desire to help came from thankfulness... not money motivation...or popularity that was nice, but it wasnt where I came from. It wasnt what I did this for.

I give you my most valuable advice today, as a 20 year Warrior who has made a million dollars or more on the journey... just from the WF alone....

I have taught things that are the opposite of this.... but, with 20 years of understanding here is my advice for young Warriors. Period. In one sentence. It is very simple.


"Follow Russel Brunson"

Im an affiliate of his, but there is no affiliate link here. That is the way. I may have sacrificed 100k by saying this, without promoting... but THAT is the way. DSimple, 123... do it. That is my 6000th post.

Selah.


Sincerely, John Durham
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  • Profile picture of the author AmericanMuscleTA
    Rock on, John!


    I haven't been around much here lately, and noticed it seems to have declined. Glad to be able to search all the old threads.
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  • Profile picture of the author ewenmack
    Lol, c'mon John, you private messaged me to STOP giving too much away.

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  • Profile picture of the author Mega Vaper
    What moving On? I just started. So this is a bad place?
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  • Profile picture of the author Volt
    Thanks for the advice.
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  • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
    Originally Posted by John Durham View Post

    The WF and its people have been so good to me, in history that is soo far past that you may never remember it....
    Some of go back into the Dark Shadows of the Shady Past and Remember.
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    • Profile picture of the author CreekChub
      Originally Posted by tryinhere View Post

      Some of go back into the Dark Shadows of the Shady Past and Remember.
      What, like the shady WSO's he has put out more than once and been banned for? Always to come back with a sob story... but no refunds.
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    • Profile picture of the author John Durham
      Originally Posted by tryinhere View Post

      Some of go back into the Dark Shadows of the Shady Past and Remember.
      Well you might also remember, along with what you perceive as shady.... life saving fundraisers for others warriors that helped with tens of thousands of dollars...and times when one gave to other Warrior charities for months at a time, working and creating products and not taking a dime of profit from them..., absolutely free classes, and free forums with tens of thousands of free responses, and hundreds of testimonials of lives changed for the better...or perhaps you dont... Doesnt matter.
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      • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
        Originally Posted by John Durham View Post

        Well you might also remember, along with what you perceive as shady.... life saving fundraisers for others warriors that helped with tens of thousands of dollars...and times when one gave to other Warrior charities for months at a time, working and creating products and not taking a dime of profit from them..., absolutely free classes, and free forums with tens of thousands of free responses, and hundreds of testimonials of lives changed for the better...or perhaps you dont... Doesnt matter.
        Yes I remember those days, I glady gave for free also, and so did many others, so your point is lost on me?, but I never ran a shady op, or stole from any one in a dishonest way. but yes it does not matter, seems to be how some roll isnt it.

        Mate, If we can move on please, as I really do not care what your doing, thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author JamesAnam
    Congratulations John! on reach a big milestone of 6000s post. Keep it up and keep sharing your thoughts and experience with others as such. Hope you will reach the 10,000 marks soon.
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  • Profile picture of the author Johnarcher
    I've wandered in from time to time with varying success. From the early days, the whole idea was to create content through answering questions, sharing victories and defeats, and then occasionally do a WSO or 20. As usual, when typing my answer, it occurs to me that most blogging tutorials mention the 3 content posts to every offer ratio. And for the snarky comments, I read them, ponder their validity and then decide what to do. Recently, I made a post and was called a librarian in the comments. The comment is absolutely true. I am in the process of changing that as I type, but I've always been a collector. One of my product launches was basically a firesale of my hard drive full of RR and PLR. So congratulations John, on your 6,000th post.
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  • Profile picture of the author akshay7
    Grateful to you for what you have done here. And for the incredibly useful posts you made that earned you all the thanks. However, contrary to what you are saying, your long paragraphs about self-praise say otherwise. Who cares though ?

    Anyways, hope to see you reach 7000th post as well. Would be great to see more activity around here.
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    Congrats John.
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  • Profile picture of the author chuckholmes
    You are spot on. There are two or three people on WF.com that are negative and critical on just about every post. You know who they are. I know who they are. They know who they are.

    It's really just sad. I still believe WF.com can rebound and become great again. That's the only reason I come back 1-2 times per week to see what is new.

    There are lots of talented people here, many who are just very quiet and watching in the background. There are also tons of newbies craving direction.

    What this place needs is a moderator who will kick out or block these negative folks. It would make a huge difference.

    Also, allowing people to comment on older threads would be huge. Every time I do that, my thread gets deleted. Just my two cents.
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  • Profile picture of the author monicatan1985
    I just joined today and this is the first post I read :/
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  • Profile picture of the author Alberto Marsh
    First of all, let me wish you congrats because reaching 6000 posts is seriously a bid deal. Thanks for your advice, I would make further effort reaching maximum possible posts over this platform.
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  • Profile picture of the author sgalla414
    Wow, 6000 posts that's amazing. Like anything i'm sure this place has under gone many changes over the years but you have stuck it out through six-thousand posts, that is quite an accomplishment.
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  • Profile picture of the author myob
    Originally Posted by John Durham View Post

    I have been a Warrior since 1999 although my stats dont show it.
    I remember you, back in the "old forum". I also joined in 1999, and played around mostly in the "Off Topic" forum, where posts don't count, and still don't. Those were some wild and heady days; rubbing shoulders with some of the marketing greats.

    Thanks for taking us down "memory lane". I think a lot of the great marketers had their start right here in the Warrior Forum. Back in the days of Allen, I remember the statement on the Warrior Forum logo - "Where multi-million dollar deals are made". That was absolutely true back then, but not anymore as far as I know.

    Although I strongly disagree that the Warrior Forum is now a "shithole", it certainly has been degraded by the new short-sighted management, rapidly accelerating erosion over the last decade or so by competition from Facebook, Twitter, and other social media, as well as increasingly stronger offline marketing segmentation.

    John, your insight into the offline potential really was a huge contribution for many here. Few online marketers even now realize that the internet really was (and still is) a relatively small fraction of real-world interaction, marketing and sales. Although the Warrior Forum may be increasingly irrelevant because of expanding market segmentation, it still provides value particularly - for newbies.
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  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    Well, John, I know it has been a while since you hit the 6000 but it's still a terrific goal to have achieved. I have been around for 9 years and for most of them, I found that I spent a lot of time here and made some great money.


    Then the decline came, starting with Allen and then the forum becoming extremely commercial. Pay for this and that and the other when it should retain its original character.


    I haven't been in here much for the last 12 months or so for various health reasons but I will say that John is always around when I do pop in.


    John, you're a good man and never allow anybody to disagree!
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  • Profile picture of the author chuckholmes
    Russell is the man! He has helped me a lot. I also learned a lot from Mike Dillard and Dan Kennedy as well.

    I have mixed feelings about the Warrior Forum. I do get value from it, but there are some really negative haters here. My real goal is to give back and share what I have learned over the past 10+ years about internet marketing. There are a few people here with a ton of experience and success we can learn from!
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  • Profile picture of the author Enfusia
    Here's the thing;


    The Warrior Forum can be great again (not a take off on a Trump slogan, just a fact).


    It needs leadership.



    The leadership comes from the people who have been here a while going back to that giving and sharing attitude that was so prevalent here.


    I've never lost that attitude at all.

    Go look at my last 10 posts, every one of them is helping answer a question or sharing.



    Well, ok, there is that one post where I was busting Claude's chops on his "when whales walked the earth" post, but other than that. I mean come on, with that title, you just can't let that one slide.



    We just need to lead by example, and then get on those few people who are the super negative ones (we all know who they are) and not accept their BS.


    And, we can start today!
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  • Profile picture of the author Medon
    John Durham, you sound like you have been around for some time.20 years cannot be disregarded. I also guess that you have made money here. And you have stated that your goal was to help- charity. It is a good idea. According to your post, Allen went so newbies have no one to inspire them. So my idea is you will hit the 7000 posts. Step into Allen's shoe. Teach newbies how they can make money here and you will actualize.
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