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Last month I got a wholesale novelty catalog in the mail from a company called Rhode Island Novelty. You can order their catalog by calling them at: 1-800-528-5599 or you can request one online at rinovelty.com. In their catalog they sell 10" x 19" LED open signs for $10.80 each or you can order a case of 20 for $216.

I did a search online for the exact same 10" x 19" LED open sign selling at the retail price of between $49 to $99 per sign.

So, I ordered a case of 20 and figured I would sell the LED open signs to local businesses, such as corner stores door to door for $40 each.

All I did to sell my LED open signs was I walked into a store I noticed didn't have an LED open sign or I thought could use another one and ask if the owner or manager wasm in and then I simply showed them the LED open sign and asked if they would like to buy one for just $40.

I did this for 5 days, Monday - Friday working only 2 hours a day and I made 1-3 sales each day and ended up selling all 20 of my LED open signs at $40 each, for a profit of $584 for just 10 hours of work.

Now, that is great, but what I figured out while I was selling the LED open signs was that almost every corner store I went into had an ATM machine, but they didn't have a lighted ATM sign, only a sticker or paper sign on thier door or in their window, but that doesn't catch a customers attention as much a lighted ATM sign, so I did some searching online for a wholesale supplier of LED lighted ATM signs and I found a company called Alibaba, their website address is at alibabe.com and they sell LED lighted ATM signs for $10 each when you buy them in cases of 10 or 20.

So, I ordered a case of 20 for $200 and I did the same thing I did with the LED open signs and sold them door to door to corner stores for $40 each. Now, unlike to LED open signs that took me 5 days to sell working only 2 hours a day, the LED lighted ATM signs sold like hot cakes in 2 days, so I worked just 4 hours and sold all 20 lighted ATM signs at $40 each for a profit of $600.

Now, sense the first 20 lighted ATM signs sold so fast and easy, I decided to order another 40 and I sold all 40 of them in 7 days for a profit of $1,600.

This is a very simple money making idea that anyone can do to make some great extra money, so give it a try and let me know how things turn out?

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by LegitIncomes

..."Martin" you are really making the rounds on the forums, what self promotion.

Couple questions:

1. What's wrong with self promotion?
2. As a Internet Marketer, who is to say we should only focus, post, visit, etc.,etc., just one IM related forum?
3. What was the need to show his other forum posts?
4. At the minimum, couldn't you have made the screen shots a little smaller?

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LegitIncomes

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Ray Erdmann

Couple questions:

1. What's wrong with self promotion?
2. As a Internet Marketer, who is to say we should only focus, post, visit, etc.,etc., just one IM related forum?
3. What was the need to show his other forum posts?
4. At the minimum, couldn't you have made the screen shots a little smaller?

The guy is making posts " I made $250/day", etc... spamming multiple forums. All he's trying to do is sell his own program (am I the only one that can see this??). If he wants to sell his own program, he can pay like everyone else does, and go start a WSO.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by Ray Erdmann

Couple questions:

1. What's wrong with self promotion?
2. As a Internet Marketer, who is to say we should only focus, post, visit, etc.,etc., just one IM related forum?
3. What was the need to show his other forum posts?
4. At the minimum, couldn't you have made the screen shots a little smaller?

I have to agree with you here, I don't think Martin was being out of line. Just throwing out some ideas for inspiration, perhaps? It made me want to check out his program and I think I'll do that now

On the other hand, Martin, you may have a potential WSO up your sleeve?

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by ladylioness

I have to agree with you here, I don't think Martin was being out of line. Just throwing out some ideas for inspiration, perhaps? It made me want to check out his program and I think I'll do that now

On the other hand, Martin, you may have a potential WSO up your sleeve?

Come on now....really? You don't see it?

He makes a post about all the money he's made by handing out pizza discount cards....and what's in his signature link? Wouldn't you know it, a link to his program about pizza discount cards. Obvious self promotion.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by LegitIncomes

Come on now....really? You don't see it?

He makes a post about all the money he's made by handing out pizza discount cards....and what's in his signature link? Wouldn't you know it, a link to his program about pizza discount cards. Obvious self promotion.

Please let us know how much an average person is making with your WSO,
I dont pretend to know the FTC regulations, but believe they are cracking down on false or exagerated income claims, Your WSO seems to be infering that newbies can make up to $15,000 PCM. surely with such a successful system, you would be building a business, and scaling this right up.

so how much is the average person making, because if you cannot substantiate these claims, my understanding is that you could be doing a lot worse than not complying with the warrior forum's regulations.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by philboy uk

Please let us know how much an average person is making with your WSO,
I dont pretend to know the FTC regulations, but believe they are cracking down on false or exagerated income claims, Your WSO seems to be infering that newbies can make up to $15,000 PCM. surely with such a successful system, you would be building a business, and scaling this right up.

so how much is the average person making, because if you cannot substantiate these claims, my understanding is that you could be doing a lot worse than not complying with the warrior forum's regulations.

If you have a question regarding a product of mine, just send me a PM, I'll be happy to answer.
And just so there's no confusion, the amount earned deals with both by own personal earnings, AND others who are earning that much and more. But again, any other questions PM me.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by LegitIncomes

If you have a question regarding a product of mine, just send me a PM, I'll be happy to answer.
And just so there's no confusion, the amount earned deals with both by own personal earnings, AND others who are earning that much and more. But again, any other questions PM me.

No confusion, you have inferred that newbies can earn up to $15,000 per month, that is quite a bold statement, that you have made publicly. Why not substantiate this publicly.

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RRG

15 years ago

Originally Posted by philboy uk

No confusion, you have inferred that newbies can earn up to $15,000 per month, that is quite a bold statement, that you have made publicly. Why not substantiate this publicly.

He's not inferring it; implying it, maybe.

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Adrian John

15 years ago

Originally Posted by philboy uk

No confusion, you have inferred that newbies can earn up to $15,000 per month, that is quite a bold statement, that you have made publicly. Why not substantiate this publicly.

Why would I be here selling an $14 product when i earn $15k/month???? Oh but maybe because i make $15k/month just for selling the product here !
I would be looking to build an system to scale it up to $100k/month ... why not 1 million?
I won't sell my hard money maker of 15k/month for the cheaply price of 2 cups of coffee

But i think 90% of the books just sell the "I don't make this but, You could if you read my book", come on, buy it buy it. If you won't make the $xxxx/day as i stated in my book than you're doing something wrong ...

At least leave the others to do something, you're not the only one here who's trying to profit on the thousand noobs around, don't post in their threads, "you are braking a rule", "stop promoting your products" ! oh, but i got a book in my sig too, imagine the people seeing this thread, hope most of them will buy on my title instead of Martin's program ....
I would buy Martin's cause he is very creative on how to use Pizza Cards to make money.

We got MODS to check who's braking the rules or not so why won't you let them decide ?!

Plenty of misleading titles and bold statements lately and never a proof of income or something similar ... people are selling theories and rehashed methods ... not liking the road that wf is heading ...

Anyway, thanks for your share Martin and good luck with your WSO

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by banditu

Why would I be here selling an $14 product when i earn $15k/month???? Oh but maybe because i make $15k/month just for selling the product here !
I would be looking to build an system to scale it up to $100k/month ... why not 1 million?
I won't sell my hard money maker of 15k/month for the cheaply price of 2 cups of coffee

But i think 90% of the books just sell the "I don't make this but, You could if you read my book", come on, buy it buy it. If you won't make the /day as i stated in my book than you're doing something wrong ...

At least leave the others to do something, you're not the only one here who's trying to profit on the thousand noobs around, don't post in their threads, "you are braking a rule", "stop promoting your products" ! oh, but i got a book in my sig too, imagine the people seeing this thread, hope most of them will buy on my title instead of Martin's program ....
I would buy Martin's cause he is very creative on how to use Pizza Cards to make money.

We got MODS to check who's braking the rules or not so why won't you let them decide ?!

Plenty of misleading titles and bold statements lately and never a proof of income or something similar ... people are selling theories and rehashed methods ... not liking the road that wf is heading ...

Anyway, thanks for your share Martin and good luck with your WSO

You really shouldn't make assumptions.
I've been self employed, working for myself, for over 10-years.
And I would estimate that 95% of my income comes OUTSIDE of the WarriorForum.

Why would I sell a product? You are seriously asking that question? Come on now. Donald Trump is a BILLIONAIRE, and even he has products that teach ways to earn a living.

Why would he do this? Why even both when it's just peanuts compared to what he's worth?
Think about it....

If you'd like to discuss it further, PM me and I'd be glad to, as we are getting way off topic here.

Oh, and that $7 per cup coffee....hope it's good :-)

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dunkinbbb

15 years ago

Just came across this thread:

Let me share my experiences with Martin.

He shared an interesting idea - selling ATM and Open LED signs for multiples of the initial cost.

Not only sharing an idea - but his actual experience doing it, something I would guess a lot of WSO sellers can only dream of.

I PM'ed Martin some questions about suppliers, he was kind enough to point me in the direction he took,shared his suppliers with me and and did mention that he had this pizza deal, since I inquired about making money immediately offline as he did. So what.

There was nothing to be gained by him offering up his suppliers, He just did.

The guy is out here sharing real ideas that have worked for him. If the cost of useful, actionable is a btw mention of a Related offer, so be it.

If someone is going to police these threads, how about all those phony rave reviews for all the fiverr outsource WSOs and the like that are hailed as the "most original, best way to make money ever"

Martin's contributions are welcomed by many, I daresay.

Thank you Martin.

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MartinBuckley 15 years ago

dunkinbbb,

Thanks for your kind words and for speaking up and having my back here

All the best,

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RRG

14 years ago

Originally Posted by dunkinbbb

Just came across this thread:

Let me share my experiences with Martin.

He shared an interesting idea - selling ATM and Open LED signs for multiples of the initial cost.

Not only sharing an idea - but his actual experience doing it, something I would guess a lot of WSO sellers can only dream of.

I PM'ed Martin some questions about suppliers, he was kind enough to point me in the direction he took,shared his suppliers with me and and did mention that he had this pizza deal, since I inquired about making money immediately offline as he did. So what.

There was nothing to be gained by him offering up his suppliers, He just did.

The guy is out here sharing real ideas that have worked for him. If the cost of useful, actionable is a btw mention of a Related offer, so be it.

If someone is going to police these threads, how about all those phony rave reviews for all the fiverr outsource WSOs and the like that are hailed as the "most original, best way to make money ever"

Martin's contributions are welcomed by many, I daresay.

Thank you Martin.

dunkinbbb

I agree. I've asked Martin a few clarification questions here and via email. He's always been helpful.

Bottom line: the guy's a class act.

I bought one of his products and I am going to be putting a couple of his systems into action. Beautiful thing is . . . once you get it set up you can outsource most or all of it and you've set up a nice little residual income for yourself.

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MartinBuckley

14 years ago

RRG,

Thanks for the kind words!

I enjoy helping others and I always find the time to answer questions anyone has on ideas I have posted.

Thanks again,

Martin

Originally Posted by RRG

I agree. I've asked Martin a few clarification questions here and via email. He's always been helpful.

Bottom line: the guy's a class act.

I bought one of his products and I am going to be putting a couple of his systems into action. Beautiful thing is . . . once you get it set up you can outsource most or all of it and you've set up a nice little residual income for yourself.

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ladylioness,

Thank you and yes i am truly just trying to help others find a way to make some extra money. I'm not trying to directly sell any of my own products advertisied in my signature, if someone want to buy them that's great, if not that's fine.

I'm going to be working on a WSO here soon, so thanks for your confidence in me.

All the best,

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MartinBuckley

15 years ago

Ray Erdmann,

Thanks for having my back here. I don't know what LegitIncomes issue is, he has been like a stalker and making negative posts on many of my posts and there is no reason for it as it's just childish and not professional.

Thanks again,

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LegitIncomes

15 years ago

Originally Posted by MartinBuckley

Ray Erdmann,

Thanks for having my back here. I don't know what LegitIncomes issue is, he has been like a stalker and making negative posts on many of my posts and there is no reason for it as it's just childish and not professional.

Thanks again,

Martin

Martin, I haven't posted "negative posts" on "many" of your posts. The tally is 2 posts out of 84.

The fact is I've seen a lot of threads just like yours, many not even as blatant, get deleted.

Now, I'm not going to pretend that I can read your mind. Maybe you didn't mean to self promote, maybe that wasn't in your thought process. Perhaps your genuine intention was to help people, that could be the case. But again, whether you meant to or not, I think this thread is extremely self promotional. And you've made it even more so by saying you are working on a WSO.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by LegitIncomes

Martin, I haven't posted "negative posts" on "many" of your posts. The tally is 2 posts out of 84.

The fact is I've seen a lot of threads just like yours, many not even as blatant, get deleted.

Now, I'm not going to pretend that I can read your mind. Maybe you didn't mean to self promote, maybe that wasn't in your thought process. Perhaps your genuine intention was to help people, that could be the case. But again, whether you meant to or not, I think this thread is extremely self promotional. And you've made it even more so by saying you are working on a WSO.

I just want to know where you get the time to go through 84 posts just to try and rain on this guys thread? So you think it's self promotion - okay fine. Others may not. I don't understand why you would spend so much time on this thread when you have 95% of your income to make outside of WF?:confused:

And being someone who'd purchased one of your WSO's I can honestly say that after reading through this thread I wouldn't give you any more of my money. Live and let live bro. Obviously the mods don't care as much as you do about this "blatent" self promotion.

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TyBrown

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Ray Erdmann

Couple questions:

1. What's wrong with self promotion?
2. As a Internet Marketer, who is to say we should only focus, post, visit, etc.,etc., just one IM related forum?
3. What was the need to show his other forum posts?
4. At the minimum, couldn't you have made the screen shots a little smaller?

I was thinking the exact same thing. He wasn't hurting anyone, spamming anything, or being over the top with self promotion.

Somebody else could have just as easily talked about how they sold SEO services to their insurance agent while they were in their office. He was simply pointing out a way to make sure to always be talking about your business.

A lot of us have signatures on here that promote what we do, we don't need a WSO every time we want to talk about our business.

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RRG

15 years ago

Originally Posted by TyBrown

I was thinking the exact same thing. He wasn't hurting anyone, spamming anything, or being over the top with self promotion.

Somebody else could have just as easily talked about how they sold SEO services to their insurance agent while they were in their office. He was simply pointing out a way to make sure to always be talking about your business.

A lot of us have signatures on here that promote what we do, we don't need a WSO every time we want to talk about our business.

I'm new here, so maybe I'm missing something. Doesn't Legit have a link in his sig to a product he's selling?

Maybe what Martin's doing is contrary to forum rules, I don't know.

But there doesn't seem to me to be anything wrong with telling a story, providing a money-making idea. If you don't want to buy his Pizza Card report, maybe you can do it on your own or use the idea as a spark for another idea.

And, if I'm not mistaken, Martin has posted about selling business card flyer advertising and selling LED signs without any product associated with those ideas.

Maybe I'm old school, but there is something to be said about, "If you don't have something good to say about someone, don't say anything at all."

What's the benefit in this sort of unprovoked negativity?

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by RRG

I'm new here, so maybe I'm missing something. Doesn't Legit have a link in his sig to a product he's selling?

Maybe what Martin's doing is contrary to forum rules, I don't know.

But there doesn't seem to me to be anything wrong with telling a story, providing a money-making idea. If you don't want to buy his Pizza Card report, maybe you can do it on your own or use the idea as a spark for another idea.

And, if I'm not mistaken, Martin has posted about selling business card flyer advertising and selling LED signs without any product associated with those ideas.

Maybe I'm old school, but there is something to be said about, "If you don't have something good to say about someone, don't say anything at all."

What's the benefit in this sort of unprovoked negativity?

Sig files are allowed. Self promotion is not. If I started a thread talking about how to make money, or how I made money, using the product in my sig file, I would fully expect it to be deleted.

If Martin had made the exact same post without a sig file, I wouldn't have a problem with it.

There's no "unprovoked negativity" here. It's about keeping the forum clean. Can you imagine what would happen if everyone with a product to sell in their sig file started a thread about how they made money with it? Think about it.... If that happened you might as well rename every forum the WSO Forum, because that's what they would turn into.

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RRG

15 years ago

Originally Posted by LegitIncomes

Sig files are allowed. Self promotion is not. If I started a thread talking about how to make money, or how I made money, using the product in my sig file, I would fully expect it to be deleted.

If Martin had made the exact same post without a sig file, I wouldn't have a problem with it.

There's no "unprovoked negativity" here. It's about keeping the forum clean. Can you imagine what would happen if everyone with a product to sell in their sig file started a thread about how they made money with it? Think about it.... If that happened you might as well rename every forum the WSO Forum, because that's what they would turn into.

OK, like I said, I don't have every forum rule memorized. So you're saying it's OK to have an product link in your sig as long as you don't mention the product in your post?

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by RRG

OK, like I said, I don't have every forum rule memorized. So you're saying it's OK to have an product link in your sig as long as you don't mention the product in your post?

Yes, that's how I see it.
There are no rules against sig files, they are allowed.

However, when you go starting a thread about how much money you made, and the topic just so happens to also be in your sig thread....well that just looks like someone trying to promote their product for free instead of paying for the WSO.

Again, as I told Martin, I'm not saying this was done intentionally by him, but that's what it looks like.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by LegitIncomes

"Martin" you are really making the rounds on the forums, what self promotion.

So what? His site is excellent and he definitely gives you some outside the box methods to generate income,I would call him an entrepreneur with a capital E!!! Don't hate,appreciate!

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14 years ago

tsneds,

Thanks for the positive comment on my website and my money making ideas.

All the best,

Martin

Originally Posted by tsneds

So what? His site is excellent and he definitely gives you some outside the box methods to generate income,I would call him an entrepreneur with a capital E!!! Don't hate,appreciate!

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tuscan

15 years ago

Really appreciate this post, Martin. Would love to know more about this business model. Very motivating....
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Smokin Joe

15 years ago

Hey Martin,

Personally I enjoy the posts that you have made. You have some very good ideas and do a good job of sharing.

This thread migh be a little self serving....but it is good information. I believe all of your methods work,,,,you just have to take action.

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Smokin Joe,

Thanks for your kind words.

I'm happy to hear that you enjoy reading my ideas.

You make a very good point that my ideas do work, but a peson must take action inorder to make money with them.

I really enjoy sharing my ideas with others and hearing feedback and success stories and that's what it's all about for me and why i do what i do.

All the best,

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15 years ago

I personally look forward to reading about Martin's ideas.

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15 years ago

thanks for posting, your idea looks good.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by RRG

Get thee directly to hell, SPAMMER.

I was thinking the same thing.

And you only need title insurance if there is a lender involved in the purchase of real property.

I cannot imagine anyone buying title insurance from someone on an IM forum.

I do not know if this is self promotion, and if it is, it's wrong and should not be tolerated.

I will take from this thread that you never know where your business will come from. When I was talking to my hair stylist the other day, I mentioned my IM businesses. Then she mentioned her husband has a product but does not know how to take it to market. We had a nice chat and I hope to be helping her husband get his product to market. For a fee.

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HeyAdMan

14 years ago

Martin ... you trouble maker.

Good to see you here buddy. It's been a while. I hope all is well with you.

You've been talking about doing these cards since I've known you almost so it's good to see they are working for you. You deserve some success.

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14 years ago

Randy, Thanks Man!

I owe alot of my success to you, as I would have never stuck with discount cards if it wasn't for you help and support.

Martin

Originally Posted by HeyAdMan

Martin ... you trouble maker.

Good to see you here buddy. It's been a while. I hope all is well with you.

You've been talking about doing these cards since I've known you almost so it's good to see they are working for you. You deserve some success.

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14 years ago

Very inspiring! Thanks Martin

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Rocket Media

14 years ago

Nice creative idea.

I don't understand what the deal is with people bringing up self promotion nowadays.

THAT'S WHAT MARKETING IS....?!?!?!?!?!?!!??!

Obviously if I am planning on selling something I am going to self-promote and try to appear as a professional and go-to guy.

WTF. It really annoys me that every time someone trys to share a method whether it be awful, great, unique, WHATEVER... the person gets flamed!

I understand that there are cliques everywhere you go but a public online forum should not be a clique. Just because there are 5-10 guys that have amazing WSOs and every time they make a thread with a method or bull&**$ advice... FLOCKS of people come in to praise and tell them how amazing they are.

Why do we help these 5-10 people promote themselves while we bash the newer guys for trying to promote themselves?

I hate to get myself involved in a pissing contest here and I was planning on posting about 5 methods of my own over the course of the next week or two as I build my business but seems like I might want to just continue lurking...

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14 years ago

Hello Martin,

I really enjoy your posts. I purchased your Pizza Card WSO and I have a few questions. I emailed you, but haven't heard back yet.

1. I want to make the discount card business a full-time income, but only producing up to 1000 pizza cards per pizza shop would really make this difficult. I need more cards to sell, and I don't know how many pizza shops I can get signed up in my local area. Have you had any success with locally-franchised pizza chains that may allow you to produce larger numbers of cards to sell? I'm thinking BIG here, haha!

2. Do you consider your commission-only sales people "independent contractors" for tax purposes?

I have a twist that I want to apply to make this venture really take off for me.

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Chris

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MartinBuckley

14 years ago

Chris,

You can make an agreements with as many pizza shops as you can and get them to agree to let you print as many cards as you think you can sell, it's not limited to just 1,000 cards.

All my sales reps are independent and are responsible for their own tax filling issues.

Now, I would love to hear about your twist to sell more cards, so please PM or email me at: ThePizzaCard@aol.com

To your success,

Martin

Originally Posted by westhope84

Hello Martin,

I really enjoy your posts. I purchased your Pizza Card WSO and I have a few questions...

1. I want to make the discount card business a full-time income, but only producing up to 1000 pizza cards per pizza shop would really make this difficult. I need more cards to sell, and I don't know how many pizza shops I can get signed up in my local area. Have you had any success with locally-franchised pizza chains that may allow you to produce larger numbers of cards to sell? I'm thinking BIG here, haha!

2. Do you consider your commission-only sales people "independent contractors" for tax purposes?

I have a twist that I want to apply to make this venture really take off for me.

Thanks,

Chris

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ryanmckinney

14 years ago

I think the moral of the thread is to think outside of the box, and just strike up conversations in your every day life, you never know what could come of it.

I feel value was added here, even if the signature matches to his thread. So if I have a signature line about "how to rank on the #1st page of Google in 2 weeks!" (or something) am I not to start a single thread talking about SEO and techniques to rank?

I haven't followed this particular gentleman's posts, but I wasn't offended by it.

I have seen way worse self promotion, 0 value added, that just basically tried to get people to click on the signature line.

I thought the basics of "forum marketing" is to add value to the forum and thus people click on your signatures..

If he is building up to a WSO, It is working, can we blame Martin? I don't, make your money brotha.

The guy at this thread did a self promotion (in a way) that has 4 star rating and pages of responses. He solicited e-mails, then almost immediately sent a product offer to those e-mails. I know because I e-mailed him to ask about his SMS provider as I was about to pull the trigger for 800-1K whit-label reseller (screw twilio/openvbx it is to much techie stuff!), and building an SMS component to my offline business. The thread is still there, I suppose, because he did add a lot of value.

Anyways, just my view on things, I could be wrong, I have been wrong before.

Ryan

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swilliams09

14 years ago

I thought it was a great story about keeping your eyes and ears open and taking advantage of opportunity. Then again I have a 'don't buy any WSOs" policy so I could careless about his sig.

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SGTech

14 years ago

Keep your posts coming Martin. I see nothing wrong with what you do. As a comparison, John Durham has a thread in which he outlines his plans to make 500k this year. In the sig line he has a link to his WSO on the same topic. Is this offensive? No way. We have the choice to click or not to click on the link to his WSO. Same goes for Martin. Keep em coming!

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MartinBuckley

14 years ago

SBTech,

Thanks for your support and good points.

All the best,

Martin

Originally Posted by SGTech

Keep your posts coming Martin. I see nothing wrong with what you do. As a comparison, John Durham has a thread in which he outlines his plans to make 500k this year. In the sig line he has a link to his WSO on the same topic. Is this offensive? No way. We have the choice to click or not to click on the link to his WSO. Same goes for Martin. Keep em coming!

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HypeText

14 years ago

Originally Posted by MartinBuckley

I just wanted to share this story here to show other how sometimes money just falls into my lap

Last month I went to go pay my auto insurance and while I was talking with my insurance agent, he mentioned he was going to order lunch soon for him and his co-workers.

I reached into my wallet and handed him a buy one get one free pizza discount card and told him here use this and save yourself some money.

He looked at the pizza card and then said to me thanks this is a great deal Im going to use this today to order lunch.

I told him if he needed any more pizza discount cards to just let me know as my company produces and sells them as fundraisers and incentive gifts.

My agent then asked me how much I sell the pizza cards for and if they could be customized with his business name and contact info on them.

I told him I normally sell each pizza card for $1 each to business owners to use as incentive gifts with a min. purchase of 100 cards. I then told him that I could place his business card on one side and the pizza discount card on the other side and I would give him a 50% off today if he ordered 500 cards at $250 and paid up front.

He then handed me his business card and asked if i could place it on the other side of the pizza card and I said not a problem.

He then asked how long it would take to get the cards printed and back to him. I told him I would have the pizza cards in his hands within 2 weeks or less.

He then went into his briefcase and pulled out his check book and wrote me out a check for $250.

I thanked him and told him I would get started on his pizza discount cards today and left.

Like I said I just wanted to share my story, as i thought it was a good one.

To your success!

Marty

I think you just "one upped" Flo's Bundler! lol

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TerryL

14 years ago

You never know where you might find business. That's the key here. And it's a very inspiring and informational post, which I appreciate. It's stories like this that show business can come from anywhere, and keep people motivated to continue working toward their goals.

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MartinBuckley

14 years ago

Terry,

Thanks for your support and positive comments.

All the best,

Martin

Originally Posted by TerryL

You never know where you might find business. That's the key here. And it's a very inspiring and informational post, which I appreciate. It's stories like this that show business can come from anywhere, and keep people motivated to continue working toward their goals.

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want2knowhow

14 years ago

Are you kidding me!?! Martin Buckley, John Dunham and Bob (Jake) Ross are 3 of thee classiest, coolest Warrior Forum dudes on here! They don't need to *self promote* because most of us who have spent any small time around these forums will gladly speak up and vouch for their awesome character's! Trust and believe, we all can separate the sheep from the wolves...and these guys are nobody's wolves, for sure! Just straight up, honest men who will go above and beyond to help if asked. They contribute immensely to this forum, making us think outside the box..and we and W.F are better thinker's because of it! Thanks, Martin, Bob and John! You all ROCK--solid!

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want2knowhow

14 years ago

Hey Martin, how are your pizza cards different than Gina Gray's pizza flyers?

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MartinBuckley 14 years ago

want2knowhow,

My Pizza Card Profits business opportunity deals with producing and selling a buy one, get one free pizza card that is good for 20 uses.

In my Pizza Card Profits ebook I share with you step-by-step how to produce and sell pizza cards in 8 different unique ways and how to earn $150 a day or more in sales.

Gina Gray's Pizza Box Top business opportunity deals with selling ads on a 8x10 full color ad flyer that promotes local businesses in the area of the pizza shop that is participating and willing to tape the ad flyer to the top of their pizza boxes.

So, as you can see my Pizza Card Profits opportunity is completly different from what Gina Gray's opportunity is and to be honest you can make good money with it, but having done a pizza box top ad flyer before a few times in the past, i can honestly say that the money that can be made from my Pizza Card Profits opportunity is way more profitable and eaiser to set-up and start making money with.

I hope this answers you question and helps,

Martin

Originally Posted by want2knowhow

Hey Martin, how are your pizza cards different than Gina Gray's pizza flyers?
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MartinBuckley 14 years ago

want2knowhow,

My Pizza Card Profits business opportunity deals with producing and selling a buy one, get one free pizza card that is good for 20 uses.

In my Pizza Card Profits ebook I share with you step-by-step how to produce and sell pizza cards in 8 different unique ways and how to earn $150 a day or more in sales.

Gina Gray's Pizza Box Top business opportunity deals with selling ads on a 8x10 full color ad flyer that promotes local businesses in the area of the pizza shop that is participating and willing to tape the ad flyer to the top of their pizza boxes.

So, as you can see my Pizza Card Profits opportunity is completly different from what Gina Gray's opportunity is and to be honest you can make good money with it, but having done a pizza box top ad flyer before a few times in the past, i can honestly say that the money that can be made from my Pizza Card Profits opportunity is way more profitable and eaiser to set-up and start making money with.

I hope this answers you question and helps,

Martin

Originally Posted by want2knowhow

Hey Martin, how are your pizza cards different than Gina Gray's pizza flyers?
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MattWell

14 years ago

This is a great post, Martin. Stories like these give me inspiration and ideas. I don't know what LegitIncomes' problem is. I do have a problem with spamming, but self promotion? Isn't that the whole idea of the forum and the internet, in fact; to get yourself out there. If you were clearly spamming (i.e. look at my program, I got rich with little effort, ...), then I would agree, but this, in no way, harms the average Joe. Continue posting, Martin, and if you get more comments from him, give him an intraction or something. Look forward to your next post, buddy.

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MartinBuckley 14 years ago

Matt,

Thank you for your positive comments and I happy you enjoy reading my money making ideas and stories.

All the best,

Martin
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