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by mcfcok
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Just wondering why a couple of well named so called offline superstars are begging me not to buy a measly $12 wso without getting their bonuses first?

Now a couple of the people doing this are supposedly earn 6/7 figures per year in their offline business!

Why would someone who allegedly turns over $$$$ do this? Are they fakers?
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  • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
    Originally Posted by mcfcok View Post

    Just wondering why a couple of well named so called offline superstars are begging me not to buy a measly $12 wso without getting their bonuses first?

    Now a couple of the people doing this are supposedly earn 6/7 figures per year in their offline business!

    Why would someone who allegedly turns over $$$$ do this? Are they fakers?
    If you get their bonuses, then your buying the wso through their affiliate link.
    i.e, they are getting paid for your purchase, vrs someone else.

    Since we don't know who your referring to, you know better then us
    if they are fakers or not.
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    Every dollar counts, no matter how much money you are making, especially if your business is wso selling.
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  • Profile picture of the author ksetu
    You are seeing one time value of $12 - while they see one time commission and lifetime subscriber value. That makes the huge difference.
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  • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
    Would you rather buy something from someone who doesn't make much money? Is that what you're saying?
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    • Profile picture of the author mcfcok
      Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

      Would you rather buy something from someone who doesn't make much money? Is that what you're saying?
      Nah just trying to get mi head around the concept guy/s who owns a multi million $$ biz offline, would be asking me to sign up through his link for a cheap wso.

      I just find it hard to believe a multi millionaire would do that, that's all. Makes me think they are FOS tbh.
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      • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
        Originally Posted by mcfcok View Post

        Nah just trying to get mi head around the concept guy/s who owns a multi million $$ biz offline, would be asking me to sign up through his link for a cheap wso.

        I just find it hard to believe a multi millionaire would do that, that's all. Makes me think they are FOS tbh.
        They might be.

        Gut instinct is usually correct.
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      • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
        Originally Posted by mcfcok View Post

        Nah just trying to get mi head around the concept guy/s who owns a multi million $$ biz offline, would be asking me to sign up through his link for a cheap wso.

        I just find it hard to believe a multi millionaire would do that, that's all. Makes me think they are FOS tbh.
        Can't blame you for thinking that...

        If I were to ever release a WSO, it would be for diversifying income, building a list, etc.

        Think about it... lets say you make 100K/mo from one thing... who is better off? You making 100k/mo in one business, or another guy making 100k/mo with a variety of methods? The whole, don't put all your eggs in one basket is relevant here. Not that all these guys think like that, in my opinion, most are FOS.
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      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
        Originally Posted by mcfcok View Post

        Nah just trying to get mi head around the concept guy/s who owns a multi million $$ biz offline, would be asking me to sign up through his link for a cheap wso.

        I just find it hard to believe a multi millionaire would do that, that's all. Makes me think they are FOS tbh.
        One of the best ways to get a new customer (which may eventually be worth thousands of dollars) is through very inexpensive entry level reports, and bonuses.

        But....Ken is right (said through gritting teeth) :rolleyes:... they just want to make sure they get an affiliate commission.

        Personally, I'd be studying the model.
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        • Profile picture of the author mcfcok
          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

          One of the best ways to get a new customer (which may eventually be worth thousands of dollars) is through very inexpensive entry level reports, and bonuses.

          But....Ken is right (said through gritting teeth) :rolleyes:... they just want to make sure they get an affiliate commission.

          Personally, I'd be studying the model.
          That's it the affiliate commission i mean I'm already on his list, he keeps pushing these wso's to me. You know what? all of you will know this person who has his own wso's. He's very well thought of well that's if you believe his testimonials on his own wso's.
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          • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
            Originally Posted by mcfcok View Post

            That's it the affiliate commission i mean I'm already on his list, he keeps pushing these wso's to me. You know what? all of you will know this person who has his own wso's. He's very well thought of well that's if you believe his testimonials on his own wso's.
            I misunderstood your original post. You are now getting affiliate e-mails selling other people's WSOs. Unless he's selling his own. If you bought one thing he offers, now you'll get e-mails selling everything that flows through his fingers.That's the way everyone does it.

            One thing I should mention. I can't believe that any one WSO is a successful marketer's entire method of marketing. Most of us experienced marketers couldn't explain everything we do in a library of WSOs. So, never think you are getting an entire secret of someone's success. You are getting pieces.

            If you can put everything valuable you know into a 25 page report...you don't know much.

            Added later. OK, I just read the last post before mine. Yup, that's marketing. sending automated emails is effortless. And it builds customer value. It's the beginning of a funnel that eventually makes millionaires (at least one method)
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    That first $12 buy can turn into a lot of money in the long run...especially if you keep buying. You are VERY valuable.
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  • Profile picture of the author b4boy
    Just the method itself doesn't have any problem at all.

    They create their own product, build the list, then just utilize the list to make more money by selling other people's products, totally legit.

    That's how the game is play right?

    The key is whether the information they sold to you are valuable or not.
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    • Profile picture of the author mcfcok
      Originally Posted by b4boy View Post

      Just the method itself doesn't have any problem at all.

      They create their own product, build the list, then just utilize the list to make more money by selling other people's products, totally legit.

      That's how the game is play right?

      The key is whether the information they sold to you are valuable or not.
      Spot on but i do question if it's something an offline millionaire would do? I know if i was that millionaire i wouldn't be fooking about with bits of affiliate commission on here.... I would be too busy earning huge offline commission checks.
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      • Profile picture of the author shane_k
        Originally Posted by mcfcok View Post

        Spot on but i do question if it's something an offline millionaire would do? I know if i was that millionaire i wouldn't be fooking about with bits of affiliate commission on here.... I would be too busy earning huge offline commission checks.
        I think you are missing a point here.

        To you it's a measly $12 WSO.

        let's say that the person who created the WSO is offering 100% commission so the person who's list you are on is getting $12 per sale.

        Now from your perspective all you are seeing is $12.

        But from this Offline Millionaires perspective, he could be driving a 1,000 poeple to this offer.

        Let's say that 50% of these people buy. That would be 500 people times $12/sale which would be $6,000

        if he does this once a month, that would be $6,000/month or $72,000 a year.

        Even if you say only 10% of those 1,000 poeple buy. That would still be $2,200.

        if he done that once a month he would be making $26,400 year.

        As you can see that little $12 number adds up very quickly.

        And I haven't even mentioned things like, upsells, OTO's, Life time customer value, etc.

        One more point.

        McDonald's which is a Billion Dollar company by the way, sells $1.99 hamburgers. Do you think that they shouldn't waste their time with that $1.99? or what about the $0.79 extra they make per sale when you super-size your meal?

        I mean it's only $0.79 right?
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    I will have to agree with nameless. You need to understand that most people who make 6 figures make that amount because they dont do anything much for free. I make great money consulting business owners and training their sales people. Which is one of the reason I have not been on in a while. I stay pretty booked. However If I am going to take the time to make any sort of report outside of the free info on a thread, you better believe I will find everyway possible to make money off of it.

    People who make 6 figures dont need your approval on how they do it . You dont have what they need, they have what you need. Your key is to make sure they are legit. There is a business practice of giving before asking for money. Its called the law of obligation and reciprocity. However in those cases once the money is asked for it is a LARGER sum than most . I use the law often. As a matter of fact last month I closed a $30,000 contract to do 16 days of work for a business (after giving free stuff) before I asked for money. Still I did write one whole wso that doesnt cost much, but as nameless said you make money every angle you can, especially if your free to because you dont have to worry about bills.
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    they possibly are making $$$$$ however part of their business is selling you something for $12 plus upgrades, all the dollars add up and selling upgrades offeres a steady income stream, for example most experts become experts in their field, develop a system and sell that to add to their income, thats the process, dont buy something you dont need if in doubt ask professional advice
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Have you guys ever seen an infomercial selling a "How to make money" product for say $39.95?

      How much do you think it costs to sell that $39.95 course? $5? $10? No. It may cost $250 to sell that $39.95 package. Some of you are missing the next step.

      The money is made after you get the customer.

      See a WSO for $12? An infomercial product for $29?

      After someone buys, what does that seller have?

      The name of someone that has proven that they are deeply interested in the subject, and are willing to give the seller money. These customers now become veins of gold that can be mined.

      If you are relying on making money with $12 reports, you are missing the huge money that is available after the report is bought. Seminars, consulting, advanced courses, coaching....all start with a small inexpensive (or free) report, CD, video, WSO, etc.

      The $12 report is bait.
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      • Profile picture of the author ownergolan
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        Have you guys ever seen an infomercial selling a "How to make money" product for say $39.95?

        How much do you think it costs to sell that $39.95 course? $5? $10? No. It may cost $250 to sell that $39.95 package. Some of you are missing the next step.

        The money is made after you get the customer.

        See a WSO for $12? An infomercial product for $29?

        After someone buys, what does that seller have?

        The name of someone that has proven that they are deeply interested in the subject, and are willing to give the seller money. These customers now become veins of gold that can be mined.

        If you are relying on making money with $12 reports, you are missing the huge money that is available after the report is bought. Seminars, consulting, advanced courses, coaching....all start with a small inexpensive (or free) report, CD, video, WSO, etc.

        The $12 report is bait.
        exactly.. the bait could be tasty for some though..
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by ownergolan View Post

          exactly.. the bait could be tasty for some though..
          And the only difference between a minnow swimming and bait, is that bait has a hook in it...and a fisherman pulling on the line.

          And just for the Analogy-challenged....
          The bait is the valued report
          The hook is a well written sales letter (sometimes the whole report, video, CD)
          The fisherman is the marketer.
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