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Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 11th December 2015, 01:41 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 2,452
Posted By David Beroff
Re: Nothing seems to work.. :-(

Step One: Get a job.
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 14th July 2015, 05:04 AM
Replies: 58
Views: 2,324
Posted By elmo033057
Re: Praying for IM success

If you think any type of marketing is easy, then you need to watch this video by Seth Godin.

Seth Godin on Failing Until You Succeed - YouTube

Remember, he's failed many more times than he's...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 14th July 2015, 02:54 AM
Replies: 58
Views: 2,324
Posted By ZanyZebra
Re: Praying for IM success

Hope is not a strategy.

Good luck with your future.
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 8th June 2015, 06:10 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 500
Posted By Tyler Pratt
Re: How Do I Market A Webinar?

Huh? free, no, not even close.
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 6th May 2015, 09:28 PM
Replies: 74
Views: 3,084
Posted By Tsnyder
Re: A Plea For Help.

Dude... seriously... you answered your own question.

You have no skills. Solution... learn some... doesn't that seem obvious?
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 5th April 2015, 11:48 PM
Replies: 60
Views: 2,488
Posted By Jennifer Hutson
Re: Is anybody else tired of upsells?

If you've been on this forum since 2004, are still buying informational WSOs and can't tell the different between a scammy product and the real deal – in 10 years – then you have bigger problems.
...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 5th April 2015, 05:49 AM
Replies: 60
Views: 2,488
Re: Is anybody else tired of upsells?

Whatever happened to this forum?!?! :(

This used to be a MARKETING forum, not a newbie-driven WSO-buying forum. How can anyone possibly bitch about upsells/downsells in a MARKETING forum?!?! It's...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 3rd April 2015, 09:22 PM
Replies: 60
Views: 2,488
Posted By brutecky
Re: Is anybody else tired of upsells?

Most upsells add additional functionality, or additional use, or additional service.. here is the thing .. more costs more. There is nothing wrong with upsells. If you want more, you should by rights...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 3rd April 2015, 08:43 PM
Replies: 60
Views: 2,488
Posted By curiozities
Re: Is anybody else tired of upsells?

I have to add a personal example just from last night.

My car was overdue for an oil change (as well as a tire rotation, to save wear and tear on the treads) and with both time and money at a...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 3rd April 2015, 07:54 PM
Replies: 60
Views: 2,488
Posted By themichaelcook
Re: Is anybody else tired of upsells?

There has been some great advice given here...

I am a product creator, but haven't launched any WSO'S(yet).. But as many stated upsells are good business if done right...

When I create a...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 2nd April 2015, 09:55 PM
Replies: 60
Views: 2,488
Posted By discrat
Re: Is anybody else tired of upsells?

Are you here at WF because you are a Buyer or a Seller ?

Just curious ?

Seems like you are a Buyer so you may want to be going to other Forums that can better accommodate you.

Last time I...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 2nd April 2015, 09:44 PM
Replies: 60
Views: 2,488
Posted By wasa1
Re: Is anybody else tired of upsells?

It is easy to say no to up-sells, just say no thanks and proceed to the product you purchased.
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 2nd April 2015, 08:55 PM
Replies: 60
Views: 2,488
Posted By Jennifer Hutson
Re: Is anybody else tired of upsells?

Your mentality is so far off the mark, here.

Might as well boycott McDonald's, your ISP, eat-in restaurants, car washes, gas stations, the mom-and-pop shop that asks you if you'd like to buy a...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 2nd April 2015, 07:13 PM
Replies: 60
Views: 2,488
Posted By Raydal
Re: Is anybody else tired of upsells?

^^This is NOT an example of an upsell at all. (And I understand why you'll be pissed because the "no zipper in the pants" makes it so much easier).

But a real upsell enhances or compliments the...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 2nd April 2015, 05:59 PM
Replies: 60
Views: 2,488
Posted By eaw44f
Re: Is anybody else tired of upsells?

I think you need to look at from a different perspective.

I think upsells are great if the upsell products help the customer even more.

For example say I purchase a list building ebook or video...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 2nd April 2015, 05:36 PM
Replies: 60
Views: 2,488
Posted By NetMan
Re: Is anybody else tired of upsells?

It's not going to happen tomorrow... "Would you like a hot pie with your burger and fries?" :) Have you never called a hot line on an infomercial to buy the "announced" product? It's always been...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 31st March 2015, 07:31 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 588
Posted By ChrisBa
Re: IM just isn't for me?

It sounds like you might be jumping around too much. If you are serious about making money and want to give it another try, I'd recommend starting with 1 way to make money and just focus on that,...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 15th March 2015, 06:24 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 998
Posted By kk075
Re: help me pleaaaaase

Maybe you've "used all the ways to make money on the Internet" but it sounds like you haven't slowed down enough to learn the specifics for any of them. So of course you failed.

If you want to...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 15th March 2015, 02:58 PM
Replies: 146
Views: 4,837
Posted By bluebay
Re: We are not all 'Bros' & 'Dudes'

Oh my gosh, I remember Kern's old marketing approach vividly. I never felt like he was talking to me during his pre-launch videos.

Remember when he would invite the viewer into his sports car or...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 15th March 2015, 01:19 PM
Replies: 146
Views: 4,837
Posted By Karen Blundell
Re: We are not all 'Bros' & 'Dudes'

Robert, I knew there was a very good reason why I like you :)

I have opted out of a couple of lists because of the "hey dude" salutations - and one of the lists belonged to a software vendor -...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 15th March 2015, 12:00 PM
Replies: 146
Views: 4,837
Posted By Melody
Re: We are not all 'Bros' & 'Dudes'

OMG - don't even know how to address that remark. Honestly thought that most people were pretty much past the point of referring to women as a minority. Obviously not.

But again, let me clarify...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 15th March 2015, 10:49 AM
Replies: 146
Views: 4,837
Posted By Scott Burton
Re: We are not all 'Bros' & 'Dudes'

Personally, there are 4 people in the world who are allowed to call me "bro" without me taking it as they are presuming a relationship we don't have. "Dude"? To me it's not a proper way to talk to...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 15th March 2015, 07:59 AM
Replies: 146
Views: 4,837
Posted By Kay King
Re: We are not all 'Bros' & 'Dudes'

I don't think it's "sexist" or "discriminatory". I don't have a problem with getting an email with "dude" but I will assume I'm not the person's target market and I will unsubscribe. No biggie.
...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 13th March 2015, 05:05 PM
Replies: 146
Views: 4,837
Posted By Melody
Re: We are not all 'Bros' & 'Dudes'

And this is my point exactly. I KNOW that some newsletters/products will be and SHOULD be marketed to a certain vertical/gender/religion/ethnicity/whatever, and I am fine with that.

Believe me - I...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 13th March 2015, 04:51 PM
Replies: 146
Views: 4,837
Posted By kindsvater
Re: We are not all 'Bros' & 'Dudes'

When the CEO has a meeting of company managers, 16 men and 4 women, and starts off by slanting his message towards men: "Hey bros, let me tell you about the hooker I banged last night, she was an...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 13th March 2015, 03:52 PM
Replies: 146
Views: 4,837
Posted By Mark Singletary
Re: We are not all 'Bros' & 'Dudes'

I agree with Steve and Brian and one of the very few times I disagree with David.

I think when people say that Melody isn't the target market they forget that she was target enough to sign up for...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 13th March 2015, 01:49 PM
Replies: 146
Views: 4,837
Posted By Steve B
Re: We are not all 'Bros' & 'Dudes'

Melody,

Thank you so much for this post. I agree completely.

In fact, I am one of the men in this world that don't want to be called "dude" or "bro" either.

To me, neither term is endearing...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 13th March 2015, 12:55 PM
Replies: 146
Views: 4,837
Posted By Melody
We are not all 'Bros' & 'Dudes'

Having been in the marketing world for a few years now (okay, a few decades now), I have always tried to be very 'neutral' in most of my general marketing efforts. Not just gender, but age, race etc...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 23rd February 2015, 07:33 PM
Replies: 18
Views: 574
Posted By Michael Shook
Re: Help me decide what to do! Please

I only learned from personal experience that sometimes my time and effort is better invested in moving on to a project where I have more clarity.
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 3rd February 2015, 05:52 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 1,341
Posted By Alexa Smith
Re: Email Marketing and SMS Marketing Illegal?

There are thousands of members of this forum who promote CPA stuff by email, perfectly legally. Most networks allow it. Many encourage it. One or two don't allow it. If it's not allowed on that...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 3rd February 2015, 02:48 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 1,341
Posted By Michael Shook
Re: Email Marketing and SMS Marketing Illegal?

SMS is illegal in some jurisdictions, email too, if the sender does not follow the law.

Your network is painting a broad brush here to eliminate potential problems. And when you advertise through...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 3rd February 2015, 10:46 AM
Replies: 59
Views: 1,952
Posted By BrianMcLeod
Re: WHY is it that marketers always HATE what works?

A large majority of self-identified "internet marketers" are not actually marketers at all... they're hyper-engaged enthusiasts.

They compulsively consume a never ending procession of marketing...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 3rd February 2015, 09:52 AM
Replies: 59
Views: 1,952
Posted By discrat
Re: WHY is it that marketers always HATE what works?

Because most of the time the actual Marketers are NOT 'their Market'. We become way too analytical.

A lot of Marketers talk about Squeeze Pages looking sleazy or to spammy etc..etc...

Do you...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 31st January 2015, 11:48 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 567
Posted By wfletch24
Re: Using Paypal / Aweber to put product buyers on separate list

You want to use the automation rules in your autoresponder. Basically, you set the automation rule to unsubscribe them from your freebie list once they optin to your buyers list.

So set up one...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 31st January 2015, 03:15 PM
Replies: 51
Views: 1,746
Posted By Brent Stangel
Re: Traffic but no opt-ins!

That blind squeeze page is at least part of the problem...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 31st January 2015, 11:45 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 859
Posted By Alexa Smith
Re: How would you generate online income for under $100?

I set up my entire business (http://www.warriorforum.com/main-internet-marketing-discussion-forum/951365-how-do-you-make-money-online-participate-please.html#post9267905) with about $60.

I don't...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 31st January 2015, 05:39 AM
Replies: 51
Views: 1,746
Posted By Alexa Smith
Re: Traffic but no opt-ins!

Nobody can tell you confidently or accurately what's going wrong without seeing everything you're doing, but your comment above strongly suggests that your traffic-sources are no good.



It's...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 27th January 2015, 06:49 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 740
Posted By David Keith
Re: Anybody familiar with writing and selling a eBook? Design, price point, ect.

wf wso section is not the place to price a $97 book.

virtually all the sales will come from affiliates and the guys with buyers lists built on WF wso section dont have those sorts of buyers for...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 27th January 2015, 12:14 AM
Replies: 11
Views: 740
Posted By James McAllister
Re: Anybody familiar with writing and selling a eBook? Design, price point, ect.

I won't say you couldn't price it at $200 but you'll be hard-pressed to find buyers at that price point, especially if you don't already have a loyal following that knows and trusts you. Your...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 21st January 2015, 12:32 AM
Replies: 11
Views: 518
Posted By Michael Shook
Re: To be one's self, or to be a brand...

People connect with people. Unless there is some reason you don't want to be associated with this product or market, I think it is in your best interest to be yourself in all your writing.
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 19th January 2015, 11:05 AM
Replies: 129
Views: 3,477
Posted By JohnMcCabe
Re: Make Over $70K With a Foul Mouth, a Stamp, Envelope and Glitter

I guess my old college boss was right - package it right and you could sell dog crap for a profit.

Actually, he did. As part of a bet, he assembled paper bags of dog poo with a cheapo lighter and...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 19th January 2015, 10:47 AM
Replies: 129
Views: 3,477
Posted By Mike Anthony
Re: Make Over $70K With a Foul Mouth, a Stamp, Envelope and Glitter

Simple - because dumb and juvenile doesn't make for a long term business model.

Unfortunately due to a bored public it often makes for things going viral though. Then it becomes yesterdays news as...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 19th January 2015, 07:52 AM
Replies: 64
Views: 2,010
Posted By Alexa Smith
Re: Is List Building Actually Important?

You're not?! Here's what you actually said, in the original post with which you started the thread: "Forget list building - it's a fallacy and a lie."

If that's not saying "Don't build a list",...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 17th January 2015, 05:22 AM
Replies: 64
Views: 2,010
Re: Is List Building Actually Important?

Colinph970,

No, list building has NO VALUE WHATSOEVER -- So please do us a favor -- Go ahead and don't build lists in any of your niches... :D
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 17th January 2015, 02:03 AM
Replies: 64
Views: 2,010
Posted By E. Brian Rose
Re: Is List Building Actually Important?

Building a list of targeted prospects has been the cornerstone of sales for thousands of years. Sorry, OP, but your assessment is just wrong. There's some good advice in this thread, so read up.
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 17th January 2015, 12:26 AM
Replies: 64
Views: 2,010
Posted By heavysm
Re: Is List Building Actually Important?

For long term success it's pretty darn important.

For years I ran my SEO business without considering building a list off of my prospects. In hindsight i can't believe I didn't think more about...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 16th January 2015, 10:20 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 2,010
Posted By Matthew Trujillo
Re: Is List Building Actually Important?

" Forget list building - it's a fallacy and a lie " Hmm...

Let me think about what you said for one second..

Wait nevermind.....That thought is just too painful for me to process.

I...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 16th January 2015, 05:16 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 2,010
Posted By Chris Busa
Re: Is List Building Actually Important?

If you do not have a list or collect data then you really never have full control over your business. For instance I built a 10,000+ niche targeted list not in the IM niche with facebook ppc.

When...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 16th January 2015, 05:13 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 2,010
Posted By Alexa Smith
Re: Is List Building Actually Important?

I think that's bullshit, too, and I say so repeatedly and loudly (it's in the trust-based relationships you build, and in your email marketing skills, of course). But that's a hundred, thousand,...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 16th January 2015, 05:01 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 2,010
Posted By Alexa Smith
Re: Is List Building Actually Important?

Curious statistic. Source, please? ;)



1%? :eek:

With assumptions like this, who needs the pickled herrings in the first place?! http://clicksmilies.com/s1106/grinser/grinning-smiley-023.gif...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 16th January 2015, 04:57 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 2,010
Posted By Jeff Lenney
Re: Is List Building Actually Important?

Seriously?

So what's stopping YOU from building up a list of Thousands?

I've got a list of 5,000 in the Mens PUA (geared towards guys) list that does VERY well for me. Hardly a huge list, but...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 5th January 2015, 04:25 PM
Replies: 73
Views: 2,800
Posted By Alexa Smith
Re: Why Do People Still Use Squeeze Pages?

It's another of those "It must be true: I read it in the Warrior Forum" moments. http://clicksmilies.com/s1106/sauer/angry-smiley-023.gif



And yet another ... ...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 19th December 2014, 12:43 AM
Replies: 12
Views: 951
Posted By Geeked Labs
Re: THIS REALLY TICS ME OFF

They might "piss you off" but those people are right. You do need money to make money. Plenty of money. Several hundred dollars over the course of time to be more specific. I suggest you get a job to...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 18th December 2014, 10:51 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 951
Posted By Roth
Re: THIS REALLY TICS ME OFF

Apart from the above comments, I'll also add that it DOES take money to make money.
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 18th December 2014, 06:37 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 951
Posted By Cali16
Re: THIS REALLY TICS ME OFF

You can't afford $47 a month, but you have no problem selling a WSO with this claim:



If anyone has a right to be ticked off, I'd say it's the buyers of your WSO. Obviously you're not making...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 18th December 2014, 05:39 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 951
Posted By Mark Singletary
Re: THIS REALLY TICS ME OFF

So you are offering to give your WSO away for free so that all the people with no money can build a business?

If not, you are being hypocritical.

Just saying.

Mark
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