is my PR5 site worth $23K?

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I'm still trying to understand how to properly derive value out of the site and feel like I'm overlooking something due to inexperience. Many were interested in buying the site "for the authority" at > $23K.

Can you help shed light on what is meant by this? Is the value of it in selling links? I know what I have is of great value, but I don't know how to recoup the $23K investment. Monetization efforts have all been a flop, other than some nominal ad-sense revenue.

If I sell backlinks, do I devalue the site? Will Google lower the PR?
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  • Profile picture of the author Path Theory
    When you say, "how to recoup the $23,000 investment, you mean that you actually paid 23k for the site?

    How much traffic does it get per day/month?
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    • Profile picture of the author lbeachmike
      Originally Posted by Path Theory View Post

      When you say, "how to recoup the $23,000 investment, you mean that you actually paid 23k for the site?

      How much traffic does it get per day/month?
      I did, any many others were willing to pay the same or more. It gets 30K sessions/month but only about the same in page-views.

      But it seems that the value of the site is "its authority" and I'm trying to better understand what that means, and what it means to me.
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  • Profile picture of the author msabihj
    OK so the issue is - you have purchased a site, you now own it and have no clue how to make money from it?
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  • Profile picture of the author miklanderson2
    That's a lot of money to spend on a site without knowing what it's worth or having a plan as to how you're going to use it. What were your plans when you bought the site? Is it currently bringing in any money from Adsense/Affilliate Sales?
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    • Profile picture of the author lbeachmike
      Originally Posted by miklanderson2 View Post

      That's a lot of money to spend on a site without knowing what it's worth or having a plan as to how you're going to use it. What were your plans when you bought the site? Is it currently bringing in any money from Adsense/Affilliate Sales?
      I did not buy it without a plan. Plan was very simple -

      1. add relevant affiliates to the site, which we've been doing; however, with all of the click-throughs for the affiliates, there's not been a single conversion in at least a full week. so why would i have expected zero conversions? i've got other sites with affiliate links. i have no idea why this one doesn't covert, though we can continue to add alternate affiliates

      2. improve the SEO of the site to drive further traffic

      3. add a subscriber mailing list at some point and find a way to monetize that

      4. add new articles that are informational articles so that they rank. all of the posts getting high traffic are the ones that are informational/reference-type posts and those handful of posts drive most of the site's traffic

      5. explore alternative monetization methods (i've tried skimlinks and content.ad, but with little success)

      6. explore offering sponsored posts - but i don't know if google penalizes for that or not

      The value to me was the a 3500 pages of quality content, which provide stability for the existing traffic levels. The PR5 adds value because the referring sites are some highly regarded sites which seems to offer the site some good credibility, so to be taken more seriously when approaching others for future opportunities.

      My major disappointment has been the lack of conversions of the affiliate click-throughs - so, even if I increase the traffic by tenfold, and the visitors of this site are just not going to buy things when they click through to affiliates, then 10 x 0 = 0
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by lbeachmike View Post

    Many were interested in buying the site "for the authority" at > $23K.

    Can you help shed light on what is meant by this?
    It's typically a fairly substantial misconception. People believe all kinds of strange things (especially when it comes to SEO) with little underlying basis in reality.

    First point: there's no such thing as "a PR5 site". Websites don't "have page ranks". Only pages have page ranks. What people are actually referring to when they mistakenly (or - when selling backlinks or websites - often "misleadingly") use the expression "a PR5 site" is actually a website whose own home page has a PR of 5 at the moment. That's all.

    Backlinks on that page (the site's own home page) are therefore backlinks from a PR5 page. Their value, as backlinks, still depends on the relevance of the site linked from to the page linked to, of course (as well as being in inverse proportion to the number of links on the page).

    Some people (and especially backlink-sellers and SEO service providers!) believe or claim to believe that backlinks from other pages of the site are somehow "worth extra" just because the site's own home page happens at the moment to be PR5. And they like to refer to that (among other things) as "domain authority" or "site authority". Good luck to them.

    I have several niche sites with PR5 homepages, myself, and one or two that are now PR6, and have done for a long time. It's of absolutely no consequence or value to me whatsoever. I don't even check my page ranks very often - that's how little they're worth to me.

    Nobody knows when/whether Google will next do a major PR update, anyway.

    Google has publicly and repeatedly announced that they regard "no longer publishing any PR information at all" as a long-term objective. (Admittedly they were saying that as long ago as early 2013 and it may not mean too much, but nothing about "PR" actually means too much, realistically: http://www.warriorforum.com/off-topi...ar-2013-a.html ).

    With the exception of sites with obviously hugely valuable domain-names, about 90% of the value of a website depends on the stability and duration of its proven income. And it's about as simple as that. Various other factors, including the PR of its own home page, really make very, very little difference indeed.

    Originally Posted by lbeachmike View Post

    Is the value of it in selling links?
    Realistically, there may be some value in that, because the world is full of people who will pay money for (what they see as) "PR5 backlinks" without even being concerned about the relevance of the site linked from to the page linked to. As I said, people have all kinds of strange beliefs, especially when it comes to SEO!

    Originally Posted by lbeachmike View Post

    I know what I have is of great value
    Perhaps so. (But you certainly haven't said anything in your post that demonstrates that.)

    Originally Posted by lbeachmike View Post

    If I sell backlinks, do I devalue the site?
    Undoubtedly.

    Google is committed to identifying and penalizing backlink sellers. They say so repeatedly, consistently, loud and clear. They say so on their websites and blogs; they say so in videos; they say so in staff interviews on other websites and in computer/internet magazines. This policy has been information "in the public domain" for years. As are some of its results (for example "blog networks" being de-indexed and their users'/customers' sites being penalized, etc. etc.)

    Originally Posted by lbeachmike View Post

    Will Google lower the PR?
    It may do that anyway. One can't tell. Which is why "having a PR5 home page" doesn't in itself necessarily make a site more valuable, as explained above. But if they think it looks like you're selling backlinks, then definitely.

    "Authority" (which is a term used by different people with different meanings, just like "link diversity" and all the other nonsense these backlink-sellers talk about) is a very vague concept. Not something monetizable in itself.

    I'm not clear why you've bought this (or why so many others apparently wanted to), but I wish you very good luck with it!

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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
    You need to develop it.

    The site, as it is now, cannot be effectively monetized.

    In the 2 minutes I spent browsing, here is the initial idea I had (and keep in mind that when I develop a site, and I do this with regularity, weeks and months - not 2 minutes - can go into it):

    Turn it into an information rich platform for people to come and learn to be "better caretakers of the earth." Open it up to writers. I did this with some of my own entities. You can use a similar system to EZA (a proven model): offer free author accounts with bio boxes and then incentives to upgrade to premium author accounts. This way, you're monetizing (recurring memberships) and getting rich content. You must also think of the social and viral aspects and endeavour to create a campaign to take either the entire site or simple articles viral. You have a long road ahead. But the site has plenty of potential. If it were mine, I'd have it earning big in around 6 to 12 months.

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    • Profile picture of the author lbeachmike
      Originally Posted by Get Rich Methods View Post

      You need to develop it.

      Turn it into an information rich platform for people to come and learn to be "better caretakers of the earth."GRM
      Very valuable feedback - absolutely with regard to this comment - that was part of the plan.
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  • Profile picture of the author mkgg
    wow backlinks from nasa....the site is indeed very authoritative

    As for what to do with it, revive the site the way it was before you purchased (so the strong backlinks don't get lost) and add whatever new content you want, it will rank so easy.


    PS: I still think you spent way too much even for a site like this because you can rank for hell of a lot of stuff for $23K and build an amazing PBN.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Originally Posted by lbeachmike View Post

    I'm still trying to understand how to properly derive value out of the site and feel like I'm overlooking something due to inexperience. Many were interested in buying the site "for the authority" at > $23K.

    Can you help shed light on what is meant by this? Is the value of it in selling links? I know what I have is of great value, but I don't know how to recoup the $23K investment. Monetization efforts have all been a flop, other than about $200/month via ad-sense.

    If I sell backlinks, do I devalue the site? Will Google lower the PR?
    I don't have time to look at the site/links but either way even If it did have SEO value it's not a smart move to post a domain/URL on a public SEO forum asking what Google will do to the site via SERPs. The domain is even in the thread title, lol. Then you mention Adsense revenue, which is against Adsense policies..

    You really need to get a grip on keeping private details off public forums.
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    • Profile picture of the author lbeachmike
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      I don't have time to look at the site/links but either way even If it did have SEO value it's not a smart move to post a domain/URL on a public SEO forum asking what Google will do to the site via SERPs. The domain is even in the thread title, lol. Then you mention Adsense revenue, which is against Adsense policies..

      You really need to get a grip on keeping private details off public forums.
      Wasn't thinking re: ad-sense revenue - is it prohibited to provide ball-park numbers? I removed the number I had posted, which was totally ballpark.
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by lbeachmike View Post

        Wasn't thinking re: ad-sense revenue - is it prohibited to provide ball-park numbers? I removed the number I had posted, which was totally ballpark.
        Just have to be careful what info. you post, you never know who's lurking around IM/SEO forums. A while back Matt C. did a Twitter quote of a link sellers BH forum comment.
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  • Profile picture of the author online only
    I think based on the content, links and traffic (100k per month) it's worth more than 23k. I would say at least $50k. The last thing I would check is PR5 - that's completely irrelevant for your site. SEO's who want to buy such domains don't want to waste more than couple of thousands. BUT your site definitely has his own value.

    I bought similar site few months ago for $40k, but I had a laser-targeted idea so I just had to buy it. Try listing it on flippa.

    P.S: If you are interested in quick cash (<$20k), I can have a look at your site (but I need GA access to confirm the 100k traffic etc).
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by online only View Post

      I think based on the content, links and traffic (100k per month) it's worth more than 23k. I would say at least $50k. The last thing I would check is PR5 - that's completely irrelevant for your site. SEO's who want to buy such domains don't want to waste more than couple of thousands. BUT your site definitely has his own value.

      I bought similar site few months ago for $40k, but I had a laser-targeted idea so I just had to buy it. Try listing it on flippa.

      P.S: If you are interested in quick cash (<$20k), I can have a look at your site (but I need GA access to confirm the 100k traffic etc).
      I would take on this offer if I were you OP, it sounds like you have no clue what to do with it and maybe just bought it cause you felt like burning money lol.

      If the site is so valuable and it has 100k traffic/month, why all posts only have 0 or 1 comments, is that normal for that type of authority sites?

      Site looks nothing like an authority site btw, I would start with a make over, at least to add some decent navigation instead of people having to scroll all the way to the bottom left to find something that they might be interested in, what a visual piece of crap it is now.
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      • Profile picture of the author online only
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        I would take on this offer if I were you OP, it sounds like you have no clue what to do with it and maybe just bought it cause you felt like burning money lol.

        If the site is so valuable and it has 100k traffic/month, why all posts only have 0 or 1 comments, is that normal for that type of authority sites?

        Site looks nothing like an authority site btw, I would start with a make over, at least to add some decent navigation instead of people having to scroll all the way to the bottom left to find something that they might be interested in, what a visual piece of crap it is now.
        If it really gets 100k traffic and the links are legit (didn't check all of them, 1000 referring domains, some of them were from huff.post etc) then it's not hard to monetize it properly and make it earn at least $1k-$2k per month. Obviously I'd re-design the site etc..

        When I bought the $40k site, it was making $30-$40 per month from amazon links. I quickly re-designed the site, get rid of those links, cut down some irrelevant content and set up a proper monetization method. It's now making me around $5k a month. Just need to wait 6-7 months more and I already have my money back.

        You'd have probably told me back then that I'm silly that I bought this site for $40k - With your calculations the site worth was either $300 for PR4 (Yes, it was PR4) or 12x40 = $480. But I bought if for X 1000. If you really KNOW how to monetize sites and evaluate the traffic value then it's a no-brainer. That's a whole different ball game we are talking about. It's not a about selling HIGH PR links, adding amazon links or Adsense code. That's just pennies for such traffic.
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Originally Posted by online only View Post

          You'd have probably told me back then that I'm silly that I bought this site for $40k - With your calculations the site worth was either $300 for PR4 (Yes, it was PR4) or 12x40 = $480. But I bought if for X 1000. If you really KNOW how to monetize sites and evaluate the traffic value then it's a no-brainer. That's a whole different ball game we are talking about. It's not a about selling HIGH PR links, adding amazon links or Adsense code. That's just pennies for such traffic.
          My calculations when I look to buy a domain for my network yes.

          WF is also a PR5, how much did they pay for that again, few million?
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        • Profile picture of the author lbeachmike
          Originally Posted by online only View Post

          If it really gets 100k traffic and the links are legit (didn't check all of them, 1000 referring domains, some of them were from huff.post etc) then it's not hard to monetize it properly and make it earn at least $1k-$2k per month. Obviously I'd re-design the site etc..

          When I bought the $40k site, it was making $30-$40 per month from amazon links. I quickly re-designed the site, get rid of those links, cut down some irrelevant content and set up a proper monetization method. It's now making me around $5k a month. Just need to wait 6-7 months more and I already have my money back.

          You'd have probably told me back then that I'm silly that I bought this site for $40k - With your calculations the site worth was either $300 for PR4 (Yes, it was PR4) or 12x40 = $480. But I bought if for X 1000. If you really KNOW how to monetize sites and evaluate the traffic value then it's a no-brainer. That's a whole different ball game we are talking about. It's not a about selling HIGH PR links, adding amazon links or Adsense code. That's just pennies for such traffic.
          Actually, per my post it only gets 30K sessions/month (almost 33K now to be exact) - however, there are very few alt images, no SEO on most of the pages - so a lot of opportunity there.

          Not sure where 100K came from ,but given it's one third that, does that change your assessment substantially?
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
          Originally Posted by online only View Post


          You'd have probably told me back then that I'm silly that I bought this site for $40k - With your calculations the site worth was either $300 for PR4 (Yes, it was PR4) or 12x40 = $480. But I bought if for X 1000.
          I wouldn't because the right traffic is a goldmine and what IM is really about. Still when I get to that budget I look to throw it into developers for new ideas not buying sites
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  • Profile picture of the author SEO-Dave
    WOW that's a lot of cash for a site that makes only $200 a month.

    PR per se is irrelevant, it's all about earnings when buying a site.

    Looks like we might loose PR next year, according to Google's John Mueller PageRank might not be updated again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Glx...tu.be&t=20m30s implication being if they don't update it, why show it publicly long term?

    Generally speaking most site buyers pay a multiple of monthly income (usually under 12X) and maybe extra for something special. Without looking at the site sounds like it's worth under $2,000.

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  • Profile picture of the author jezter6
    Looking at the flippa auction page for this, I have no idea why you bought this without a solid plan to monetize.

    Even their own Adsense data provided showed they were only making a few hundred a month - which will be tough to recoup a $23k investment with.

    What about the articles with Amazon? Are they properly changed to YOUR code? I looked at one of the DIY soap articles with a few links to amazon, so make sure everything is updated (if acceptable) to your affiliate ID.

    Quite honestly, $23k for this site just doesn't seem like a good deal. Not sure why anyone was bidding more than about $5000 for this.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    Well I can't see anything as you were wisely told to take it out of your OP but if selling links on the basis of the PR is your only idea for the site you way overpaid
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    • Profile picture of the author lbeachmike
      Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

      Well I can't see anything as you were wisely told to take it out of your OP but if selling links on the basis of the PR is your only idea for the site you way overpaid
      I never said my intention is to sell backlinks. I asked a hypothetical question because I am trying to understand why others see so much value in the PR5 page and I wanted to understand what THEIR plan would have been. I see no need to remove my hypothetical question. If I had stated that it's what I plan to do, then that's a different thing. I appreciate all of the concern and input.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by lbeachmike View Post

        I see no need to remove my hypothetical question. If I had stated that it's what I plan to do, then that's a different thing. I appreciate all of the concern and input.
        I never said anything about removing your question. I assumed from other posts that were referring to details i don't see there now that something had been removed.

        Anyway strictly speaking no site is worth $23,000 based on it being a PR5. I would think at that price you would be looking more at traffic. You could get a ton load of great content without paying that as well.
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        • Profile picture of the author lbeachmike
          Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

          I never said anything about removing your question. I assumed from other posts that were referring to details i don't see there now that something had been removed.

          Anyway strictly speaking no site is worth $23,000 based on it being a PR5. I would think at that price you would be looking more at traffic.
          Agreed - the traffic numbers were actually mis-stated in the Flippa listing due to two instances of analytics code which double-counted the page-views, so it looked like it was getting 60K PVs but it's only 30K. That's a game-changer and I am still inside the inspection period, so I'm trying to assess whether or not to keep or reject being that I can reject based on the PVs being mis-stated.

          We wanted to own the site for more reasons than one, but I need the cash-flow numbers to be workable so I'm trying to figure out what's reasonably attainable here.
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          • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
            Originally Posted by lbeachmike View Post

            Agreed - the traffic numbers were actually mis-stated in the Flippa listing due to two instances of analytics code which double-counted the page-views, so it looked like it was getting 60K PVs but it's only 30K. That's a game-changer and I am still inside the inspection period, so I'm trying to assess whether or not to keep or reject being that I can reject based on the PVs being mis-stated.
            well me...If I could get out...yeah I'd reject. I am not impressed by that traffic and the Pr 5 doesn't factor because even a very strong PR 5 wouldn't be more than a couple thousand (hard to bolt these things down now without any update in PR for a year)
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  • Profile picture of the author SEO-Dave
    Checked a few articles and doesn't even look like all unique content.

    Go to some of your articles, find a unique bit of text at least a couple of paragraphs down and search Google for the text in speech marks.

    "Environmentalists argue that we already have the technology and the legal tools to"

    Your site isn't even listed.

    If a lot of the content is like this I wouldn't have bought the site, sort of site Google tends to downgrade long term.

    I only looked at a couple of posts, if you find this sort of picture for a lot of the content I'd be seriously concerned long term. You need to check the percentage of unique to copied content, you can get away with some duplicate content, so it's about how much in unique relative to dupe.

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  • Profile picture of the author shipwrecked
    PR is no longer an issue, Google is scrapping the PageRank system:
    Google Won't Renew PR Anymore

    You will no longer have to worry about the PR.

    I don't think you should sell links... perhaps a few, but Google's new Penguin 3.0 could get your site penalized if you overdo it.

    I think you should measure all the other metrics: social metrics, DA, PA... and perhaps you can sell your site at Sedo.com (or elsewhere).
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
      Originally Posted by shipwrecked View Post

      PR is no longer an issue, Google is scrapping the PageRank system:
      Google Won't Renew PR Anymore

      You will no longer have to worry about the PR.

      I don't think you should sell links... perhaps a few, but Google's new Penguin 3.0 could get your site penalized if you overdo it.

      I think you should measure all the other metrics: social metrics, DA, PA... and perhaps you can sell your site at Sedo.com (or elsewhere).
      When the man shows you the apple, you can see it.

      When he puts it behind his back, out of your view.

      You can no longer see it, but you know it still exists.

      If anything this move will create even higher volumes of webspam. When spammers can no longer target based on a given metric. They'll fish with boat's and nets instead of rods and reels.
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      • Profile picture of the author shipwrecked
        Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

        When the man shows you the apple, you can see it.

        When he puts it behind his back, out of your view.

        You can no longer see it, but you know it still exists.

        If anything this move will create even higher volumes of webspam. When spammers can no longer target based on a given metric. They'll fish with boat's and nets instead of rods and reels.
        Besides spammers, there are ethical marketers as well. They will simply use other metrics, like the ones provided by MOZ and Majestic SEO.

        But the invisible ranking system that Google uses is substantially different from that obscure green PR bar, which is part of an old, obsolete ranking system. Google is scrapping that 10 years+ old wreck. They have a more sophisticated system in the background, of course.

        I think the green PR bar was anyway kept there as a diversionary measure. Perhaps that way they were better able to see who's trying to manipulate it.
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  • Profile picture of the author lbeachmike
    Thanks for all the helpful feedback. So, what approach to monetization would you guys take on a site like this? Why do you think that nothing converts via the affiliate programs currently in place? They are relevant and getting a good number of click-throughs.
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    • Profile picture of the author shipwrecked
      Originally Posted by lbeachmike View Post

      Thanks for all the helpful feedback. So, what approach to monetization would you guys take on a site like this? Why do you think that nothing converts via the affiliate programs currently in place? They are relevant and getting a good number of click-throughs.
      I recommend you to try Media.net, which is similar to AdSense and may even pay better - according to some. But it depends on the niche and your traffic quality.

      Is your 23,000 $ site the signature site?

      You should put more effort into improving the DA, PA, MOZRank, Trust Flow, Citation Flow and a few other metrics and then try to sell it through some intermediary.
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by lbeachmike View Post

      Why do you think that nothing converts via the affiliate programs currently in place?
      I was thinking about this yesterday while reading this thread.

      IMO, your traffic is far too random, it's basically like Facebook traffic, a bunch of window shoppers. Traffic is most likely clicking links/banners out of curiosity with no intention of buying anything.

      You would basically have to to have unique products for each individual webpage which IMO would be too time consuming to deal with. I would rather target a single niche where traffic is dedicated to the niche, example niches (hobby, business, health, etc...).
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      • Profile picture of the author lbeachmike
        Originally Posted by yukon View Post

        I was thinking about this yesterday while reading this thread.

        IMO, your traffic is far too random, it's basically like Facebook traffic, a bunch of window shoppers. Traffic is most likely clicking links/banners out of curiosity with no intention of buying anything.

        You would basically have to to have unique products for each individual webpage which IMO would be too time consuming to deal with. I would rather target a single niche where traffic is dedicated to the niche, example niches (hobby, business, health, etc...).
        Interesting assessment. We had expected that the essence of the site itself was in fact a viable niche. In this case, it wasn't entirely about money - we wanted to own the site because I'd enjoy writing for it, and we thought it could produce enough cash flow to be acceptable as a longer-term investment. It also seems to me that with 3500 pages of quality content, you've got much greater durability for the longer haul.

        I appreciate the thoughtfulness of your response which will be helpful when assessing future sites for possible purchase since I don't want to get into the same set of circumstances.
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  • Profile picture of the author CRIMSON ASH
    Conversions is all about targeted traffic. Check where your traffic is coming from (referral traffic) and what keywords people are using to find your site organically (Webmaster Tools) and plan your sales strategy from there.

    This site should already have garnered a fairly large email list... this in itself is an asset but I'm an SEOer and email marketing isn't my cup of tea so I'll refrain from trying to advise in this regard.
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    • Profile picture of the author lbeachmike
      Originally Posted by CRIMSON ASH View Post

      Conversions is all about targeted traffic. Check where your traffic is coming from (referral traffic) and what keywords people are using to find your site organically (Webmaster Tools) and plan your sales strategy from there.

      This site should already have garnered a fairly large email list... this in itself is an asset but I'm an SEOer and email marketing isn't my cup of tea so I'll refrain from trying to advise in this regard.
      We actually did this. We identified the topic/post that was bringing in the most traffic by a large margin. We pointed users to where they could buy the types of products they were seeking. Lots of clicks but no purchases.
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  • Profile picture of the author lbeachmike
    Hey guys - I appreciate everybody's input which helped me to validate my decision that the site should indeed go back to the original owner.

    Question - how can I get the site name removed from all of the subject lines of the replies? Apparently google took exception with the original question I asked about whether or not selling links was any bit of any option. I'm not sure why I'm no longer allowed the free speech of asking questions about things I don't know, but apparently Google doesn't want me to educate myself via public inquiry even though it was extremely effective.
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    • Profile picture of the author tech84
      Originally Posted by lbeachmike View Post

      Hey guys - I appreciate everybody's input which helped me to validate my decision that the site should indeed go back to the original owner.

      Question - how can I get the site name removed from all of the subject lines of the replies? Apparently google took exception with the original question I asked about whether or not selling links was any bit of any option. I'm not sure why I'm no longer allowed the free speech of asking questions about things I don't know, but apparently Google doesn't want me to educate myself via public inquiry even though it was extremely effective.
      Copy paste everything in this thread so you can later re-read the replies then delete the thread, if that's what your asking.
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    @ibeachmike

    Submit a ticket via the help desk (link on nav bar above).
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  • Profile picture of the author anwar001
    What was the reason many people were interested in buying that website for $23k? There must have been some reason why people were interested in shelling large amount for the site. It is not just because of its PageRank as you know there are many places where you can get PR 4 or 5 sites for much less (maybe less than $500).

    So, it means the site must be having something like lots of traffic, email or RSS subscribers etc. The point is to use these to your benefit. You already have a pre-built audience which you should think of growing further and also monetizing. You have to experiment different things while monetizing but don't be too aggressive as you might lose the people.

    By the way, what were you thinking when you purchased the site? Just because other people were interested in buying it for that price is not adequate justification why you jumped in. You must have had a plan for buying that site. And you must have been little familiar with the niche before spending so much cash.
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    • Profile picture of the author lbeachmike
      Originally Posted by anwar001 View Post

      What was the reason many people were interested in buying that website for $23k? There must have been some reason why people were interested in shelling large amount for the site. It is not just because of its PageRank as you know there are many places where you can get PR 4 or 5 sites for much less (maybe less than $500).

      So, it means the site must be having something like lots of traffic, email or RSS subscribers etc. The point is to use these to your benefit. You already have a pre-built audience which you should think of growing further and also monetizing. You have to experiment different things while monetizing but don't be too aggressive as you might lose the people.

      By the way, what were you thinking when you purchased the site? Just because other people were interested in buying it for that price is not adequate justification why you jumped in. You must have had a plan for buying that site. And you must have been little familiar with the niche before spending so much cash.
      We own another green business and this was a good compliment to that business.
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  • Profile picture of the author EvcRo
    seriously , lol
    i want to meet more people like you

    all those bids at 20k where fake bids, you were tricked.

    30k hits with 30k pageviews ? = bot traffic to inflate stats.

    If you can get your money back do it.
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    • Profile picture of the author lbeachmike
      Originally Posted by EvcRo View Post

      seriously , lol
      i want to meet more people like you

      all those bids at 20k where fake bids, you were tricked.

      30k hits with 30k pageviews ? = bot traffic to inflate stats.

      If you can get your money back do it.
      Everything is not always a conspiracy. The seller is a good honest guy. These were not fake bids.
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  • Profile picture of the author richardjam
    pr is so outdated!!! i always check other tools even alexa to monitor website power!
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by richardjam View Post

      pr is so outdated!!! i always check other tools even alexa to monitor website power!
      PR isn't outdated just because Google stopped the public PR updates. It's not uncommon for established sites/pages to retain the backlinks that created the last PR shown to the public.
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  • Profile picture of the author charlie9
    I wouldn't sell backlinks if I were you. Any kind of human review would devalue the site essentially anybody willing to buy your website in the future would be kind of a turn off from buying it.
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