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Should I noindex tag/category/author/date pages to avoid "duplicate" content, or Google understands what these are for and does not consider this as duplicate?

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  • Profile picture of the author AskAnAffiliate
    Hi,

    I researched and read this article and the experiment had this results...

    "That NoIndexing taxonomies and optimizing pagination will give a massive boost in organic traffic within a few weeks of implementation. Google and Bing recently placed duplicate content in their crosshairs with recent algorithm updates. It is important for webmasters to avoid duplicate content, and to ensure taxonomies are not causing a lack of growth."

    You can view the complete experiment here:

    No Indexing WordPress Taxonomies: Do or Don

    I've noindexed tag/category/author/date through my Wordpress All-In-One SEO plugin and its very simple. Had no problems!
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    • Profile picture of the author IMPromocoder
      Originally Posted by AskAnAffiliate View Post

      Hi,

      I researched and read this article and the experiment had this results...

      "That NoIndexing taxonomies and optimizing pagination will give a massive boost in organic traffic within a few weeks of implementation. Google and Bing recently placed duplicate content in their crosshairs with recent algorithm updates. It is important for webmasters to avoid duplicate content, and to ensure taxonomies are not causing a lack of growth."

      You can view the complete experiment here:

      No Indexing WordPress Taxonomies: Do or Don

      I've noindexed tag/category/author/date through my Wordpress All-In-One SEO plugin and its very simple. Had no problems!
      Good post, thanks for referring me to it.
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by AskAnAffiliate View Post

      I've noindexed tag/category/author/date through my Wordpress All-In-One SEO plugin and its very simple. Had no problems!
      Lumping category pages in with redundant pages is wasting traffic in the SERPs.

      The category page is the mother of all pages nested under that specific webpage. Google has mentioned this before on their blog (Google it) & also mentioned looking upstream & downstream on internal URLs for relevant pages in one of their patents.

      Example downstream category page below (.../ford/...) strengthens the mustang page/URL, otherwise the keyword mustang could just as easily be referencing horses. I know about on-page LSI, talking site structure here.
      • domain.com/ford/fast-mustang

      A category page has lots of internal links pointing at the one page/URL so your again wasting internal link opportunities. Your literally trying to rank a category page (100% relevant internal links) while you've noindexed the same category page.

      I could go on all day about this subject but the bottom line is always keep a parent page nested above your money pages. Index that same parent page. Using the Home page as a parent page is a bad idea because dedicated parent pages (category page) can be created as often as needed & laser focused on the subject instead of spreading the Home page thin for hundreds of keywords/subjects.

      Look at the BIG picture (group relevant pages). That's what Google is doing.
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      • Profile picture of the author PBMax
        Originally Posted by yukon View Post

        Lumping category pages in with redundant pages is wasting traffic in the SERPs...that's what Google is doing.
        So in the All-In-One plugin, what are we supposed to check as far as no-index?

        Categories?
        Archives?
        Author archives?
        Tag archives?
        Paginated pages/posts?
        NOFOLLOW paginated pages/posts?

        Not technical, so not sure what your post meant, but I gathered you weren't agreeing with the guy above you who checks all the no-index boxes.
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        • Profile picture of the author yukon
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          Originally Posted by PBMax View Post

          So in the All-In-One plugin, what are we supposed to check as far as no-index?

          Categories?
          Archives?
          Author archives?
          Tag archives?
          Paginated pages/posts?
          NOFOLLOW paginated pages/posts?

          Not technical, so not sure what your post meant, but I gathered you weren't agreeing with the guy above you who checks all the no-index boxes.
          No, not categories, I explained why category pages need to be indexed.

          Wordpress creates redundant pages because they have a hierarchy structure for Wordpress themes, they're basically fallback pages. Each theme is different. One theme might have an archive template page while another theme won't have an archive template page, that 2nd theme would fallback to the next template page in the hierarchy.
          • If you use Post on your WP site use/index categories.
          • If you use Pages on your WP site, use a Parent page as the category page If needed.

          It doesn't matter what the webpage is called just keep a main webpage (ex: category webpage , parent webpage) per root keyword (subject) to keep same subject webpages grouped. Otherwise the entire site is an unorganized mess for SEO. Index those category/parent webpages.

          You guys are confusing redundancy (ex: Tag webpages, Archive webpages) over the entire site with things that are still needed for the SERPs/SEO (category webpages/parent webpages).

          Take some time to learn how silos work & hierarchy will make more sense.

          I don't use SEO plugins. Too much room for error, example easily noindexing webpages that need to be indexed (perfect example of an SEO plugin fail).
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          • Profile picture of the author PBMax
            Originally Posted by yukon View Post

            I don't use SEO plugins.
            Wow, bold. I like this idea, one less footprint over the course of a PBN. Do you at least use a meta data plugin?
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            • Profile picture of the author yukon
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              Originally Posted by PBMax View Post

              Wow, bold. I like this idea, one less footprint over the course of a PBN. Do you at least use a meta data plugin?
              SEO plugins don't have anything to do with a PBN. I don't use those SEO plugins because I know how to code/edit html. When you code/edit your own pages there's no guessing what a plugin is or isn't doing (ex: no accidental noindexing pages).



              Originally Posted by PBMax View Post

              Do you at least use a meta data plugin?
              No, I don't use meta plugins.

              I guess you mean meta-descriptions? I don't use those either.

              Not having a meta-description tag in the HTML allows Google to pull relevant text from the ranked webpage based on the exact search query traffic used which is then used in the SERP description. In other words, not having a meta-description tag allows unlimited SERP descriptions per webpage.

              Having a meta-description in the HTML forces a static SERP description which isn't going to increase SERP CTR considering traffic will find the webpage with a bunch of keywords/variations.

              Traffic searches for a keyword & then scans the finished SERPs for that same keyword which influences SERP CTR.
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              • Profile picture of the author TallCoolOne
                Originally Posted by yukon View Post

                SEO plugins don't have anything to do with a PBN. I don't use those SEO plugins because I know how to code/edit html. When you code/edit your own pages there's no guessing what a plugin is or isn't doing (ex: no accidental noindexing pages).
                Thanks yukon for sharing the knowledge. I thought I knew a bit about SEO until I read some of your posts.
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          • Profile picture of the author IMPromocoder
            Originally Posted by yukon View Post

            No, not categories, I explained why category pages need to be indexed.

            Wordpress creates redundant pages because they have a hierarchy structure for Wordpress themes, they're basically fallback pages. Each theme is different. One theme might have an archive template page while another theme won't have an archive template page, that 2nd theme would fallback to the next template page in the hierarchy.
            • If you use Post on your WP site use/index categories.
            • If you use Pages on your WP site, use a Parent page as the category page If needed.

            It doesn't matter what the webpage is called just keep a main webpage (ex: category webpage , parent webpage) per root keyword (subject) to keep same subject webpages grouped. Otherwise the entire site is an unorganized mess for SEO. Index those category/parent webpages.

            You guys are confusing redundancy (ex: Tag webpages, Archive webpages) over the entire site with things that are still needed for the SERPs/SEO (category webpages/parent webpages).

            Take some time to learn how silos work & hierarchy will make more sense.

            I don't use SEO plugins. Too much room for error, example easily noindexing webpages that need to be indexed (perfect example of an SEO plugin fail).
            Yukon, I appreciate your thorough replies on this post.
            I use categories for both posts and pages.
            So the structure is mysite.com/category/category_name , and that page has a list of posts/pages under that category.
            However the posts/pages themselves have their own unique url, i.e. mysite.com/post_or_page_url
            In that sense, I suppose there isn't much difference between tags and categories in terms of functionality for me ( but of course they do have entirely different names). So that probably means that that tags should be kept indexed as well..?

            As for what you mentioned regarding static meta description. That makes sense when you have an opportunity to be ranked for more than one keyword on a certain post, but what if I am going only after a very specific KW, plus I want a very specific data to appear ( for example - month name), then there is an advantage for the static info that G wouldn't have shown otherwise.
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  • Profile picture of the author AskAnAffiliate
    So in the All-In-One plugin, what are we supposed to check as far as no-index?

    Categories?
    Archives?
    Author archives?
    Tag archives?
    Paginated pages/posts?
    NOFOLLOW paginated pages/posts?
    Hi,

    Go into All-In-One SEO...Scroll Down to..."NoIndex Settings"

    Here is what I have checked...

    Use noindex for Categories
    Use noindex for Date Archives
    Use noindex for Author Archives
    Use noindex for Tag Archives

    You can customize to what you need however those are my settings.

    Hope that helps!
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    • Profile picture of the author TrafficJuicers
      Originally Posted by AskAnAffiliate View Post

      Hi,

      Go into All-In-One SEO...Scroll Down to..."NoIndex Settings"

      Here is what I have checked...

      Use noindex for Categories
      Use noindex for Date Archives
      Use noindex for Author Archives
      Use noindex for Tag Archives

      You can customize to what you need however those are my settings.

      Hope that helps!
      I noindex these pages too.
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  • Profile picture of the author prcheck
    Using noindex and nofollow for your Categories,Archives,Author archives,Tag archives,Paginated pages/posts and paginated pages/posts will certainly boost your search ranking.
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  • Profile picture of the author DPM70
    I like to keep tags live and follow on my redundant websites. They get plenty of traffic that way. Top tip for all you penguinized people.

    Qualifier: Those who know a bad site and have moved on and can't be arsed to deal with the old dross that got penguinized.
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  • Profile picture of the author CutPasteProfits
    yukon, so to make it clear - does that mean that having a meta description lowers your chances of being found for other possible related searches? (since Google will take a snippet from the page with the keyword the user searched for, which isn't necessarily the one we are targeting in our own meta description)
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by CutPasteProfits View Post

      yukon, so to make it clear - does that mean that having a meta description lowers your chances of being found for other possible related searches? (since Google will take a snippet from the page with the keyword the user searched for, which isn't necessarily the one we are targeting in our own meta description)
      The SERP description is all about increasing SERP CTRs, it's not ranking a page. After traffic does a Google search they're scanning the search results page for the keywords they used.

      The cool part about allowing Google to fill in the SERP description is Google is literally showing which text they are focused on (per each keyword variation). So... you can do a Google Incognito search & see where Google is focused while their bot is looking at your webpage. That allows you to make informed on-page tweaks If necessary.

      Again, that SERP description can change based on each individual search query that returns the same webpage. You can't do that with a static meta description tag on your ranked webpage. Google will sometimes ignore a static meta description but it's rare.
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