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11 years ago

I guess you're talking about ranking?

My best method to fast indexing is to have a site. Google is fast enough.

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seorooz

11 years ago

tnq
I'm like a story published
I want this to be the first link Google
What is the best and most effective way that I do?

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nettiapina

11 years ago

Everyone wants that same thing. There's hundreds of factors, and competition is a major one. Have content that fits the seach query and brings value, and get some decent backlinks. Then you've got a shot.

If your question is hypothetical and vague you're not going to get specific answers.

BTW, you're not selling SEO, are you? Your expectations for rankings are unreasonable. The only push-button solution is Adwords.

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fpforum

11 years ago

There are tons of fast methods... I would say:
1) Pinging the URLs (there are tons of free pinging websites. Just search google for "url pinger")
2) Adding links to your signature on the forum
3) Do some quick sharing on social media

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SEO-Dave

11 years ago

Originally Posted by fpforum

There are tons of fast methods... I would say:
1) Pinging the URLs (there are tons of free pinging websites. Just search google for "url pinger")
2) Adding links to your signature on the forum
3) Do some quick sharing on social media

Erm, no, no and no.

Those three activities will not improve Google rankings. Unless some how webmasters follow sig links and decide to add a dofollow link from their website or again someone follows a link from Facebook etc... and decides to link to a site from their website.

The above advice is like advising using radio ads to improve SEO, directly it won't have an SEO imapct, but if someone listening to the radio goes to your site AND adds a link from their site, that's SEO value.

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PBMax

11 years ago

Originally Posted by SEO-Dave

The above advice is like advising using radio ads to improve SEO, directly it won't have an SEO imapct, but if someone listening to the radio goes to your site AND adds a link from their site, that's SEO value.

David

Which is better in my opinion. Radio catches WAY more flies than hopeful Google search wins. I'd rather have interested direct traffic than window shoppers browsing all the competition alongside me.

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SEO-Dave

11 years ago

Originally Posted by PBMax

Which is better in my opinion. Radio catches WAY more flies than hopeful Google search wins. I'd rather have interested direct traffic than window shoppers browsing all the competition alongside me.

We are talking organic SEO value not sales per se.

If buying radio ads makes more sales than paying for SEO services or other ways to generate sales, of course radio is the way to go, but radio ads ain't an SEO technique that generates links.

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PBMax

11 years ago

Originally Posted by SEO-Dave

adio ads ain't an SEO technique that generates links.

David

Not directly, but certainly has the ability to so do indirectly.

I'll take direct traffic/potential sales first. I'll take possible leads via indirect backlinks second.

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SEO-Dave

11 years ago

Originally Posted by PBMax

Not directly, but certainly has the ability to so do indirectly.

I'll take direct traffic/potential sales first. I'll take possible leads via indirect backlinks second.

That's what I said.

The difference between radio ads and SEO, radio will definitely cost you money, building backlinks won't necessarily cost money (minimum cost is time).

Since we are discussing SEO and not marketing generally, when building backlinks that count (dofollow links) you wouldn't use an SEO budget on radio ads. Unless it somehow tied into a linkbait campaign.

Anyway, I was using radio ads as a comparison to links that are nofollow from forums and social network sites. Yes they have the potential of also generating dofollow links indirectly, but they hold no DIRECT SEO value.

You can not seriously argue a marketing technique which has no direct SEO value, but could have indirect SEO value is an SEO technique. Hence the radio ads example, you wouldn't put radio ads in a list of ways of improving SEO even though indirectly it could. Running down the street naked yelling vist my site at www dot example dot com could indirectly generate backlinks, but it ain't SEO.

So when people say share stuff on Facebook, add links to forums (where the links are nofollow), that's not good SEO advice because there's no direct SEO value in those activities.

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PBMax

11 years ago

Originally Posted by SEO-Dave

That's what I said.

The difference between radio ads and SEO, radio will definitely cost you money, building backlinks won't necessarily cost money (minimum cost is time).

Since we are discussing SEO and not marketing generally, when building backlinks that count (dofollow links) you wouldn't use an SEO budget on radio ads. Unless it somehow tied into a linkbait campaign.

Anyway, I was using radio ads as a comparison to links that are nofollow from forums and social network sites. Yes they have the potential of also generating dofollow links indirectly, but they hold no DIRECT SEO value.

You can not seriously argue a marketing technique which has no direct SEO value, but could have indirect SEO value is an SEO technique. Hence the radio ads example, you wouldn't put radio ads in a list of ways of improving SEO even though indirectly it could. Running down the street naked yelling vist my site at www dot example dot com could indirectly generate backlinks, but it ain't SEO.

So when people say share stuff on Facebook, add links to forums (where the links are nofollow), that's not good SEO advice because there's no direct SEO value in those activities.

David

Are you saying that traffic doesn't account for a major SERP push? Google has spiders that do two things: crawl links into the furthest reaches AND count traffic through various sources beyond just Chrome's browser. Direct traffic definitely increases rankings WITHOUT THE NEED for backlinks. To be honest, backlinks are a lazy way of marketing the client when a more direct approach can get the job done in a cleaner, more sustainable way.

I don't fancy myself an SEO (not really anyway) as much as I am just a guy who wants people to remember his client's brand, logo and tagline first when they need something within the realm of what we offer. I've never liked backlinking/trying to be smarter than Google. I don't care about Google other than they can count traffic and award accordingly.

This aside, I think the guy running down the street naked should have a sash on with the domain name as well. And perhaps a megaphone, or even better, a portable mic.

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nettiapina

11 years ago

Originally Posted by PBMax

Are you saying that traffic doesn't account for a major SERP push? Google has spiders that do two things: crawl links into the furthest reaches AND count traffic through various sources beyond just Chrome's browser. Direct traffic definitely increases rankings WITHOUT THE NEED for backlinks. To be honest, backlinks are a lazy way of marketing the client when a more direct approach can get the job done in a cleaner, more sustainable way.

I would say that. You're describing a mechanism that can't work in any way or form. Spiders have no way to crawl traffic patterns, that's just completely bonkers. I've seen no good data that direct traffic would be behind direct increase of rankings, nor that Google uses Analytics or Chrome to calculate SERP placements. Cutts has at least said that webspam doesn't use Analytics, and that they don't use the data because they "want you to be comfortable using it".

There's a common misconception about direct traffic, but it's not one that many SEO experts seem to share.

If the user comes from a Google search, then there's a change that the search engine would pick that as a signal. Do they? Well, there seems to be no consensus about that either.

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PBMax

11 years ago

Originally Posted by nettiapina

I would say that. You're describing a mechanism that can't work in any way or form. Spiders got no way to crawl traffic patterns. I've seen no good data that direct traffic would be behind direct increase of rankings. There's a common misconception about direct traffic, but it's not one that many SEO experts seem to share.

If the user comes from a Google search, then there's a change that the search engine would pick that as a signal. Do they? Well, there seems to be no consensus about that.

I'd say Google having their own browser on top of a search engine, it's not a stretch to think they KNOW where we're going and where we've been. Traffic patterns. No doubt they store this and USE it. After all, click on the "why these ads?" - yes, ADS - in your gmail and they'll tell you straight up that they showed you these because of your mail (they've read) and sites you've recently been to.

Surely they don't spend countless time and money on data mining all of us for nothing.

And even if Hell has ice cubes, pigs start flying and direct traffic doesn't help rankings, this is still secondary to the fact that people are bypassing Google anyway because a search has become unnecessary.

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nettiapina

11 years ago

Originally Posted by PBMax

I'd say Google having their own browser on top of a search engine, it's not a stretch to think they KNOW where we're going and where we've been.

Is that a figure of speech? What the heck is a "browser on top of a search engine"? It makes no sense if taken literally or from technical point of view.

Originally Posted by PBMax

Traffic patterns. No doubt they store this and USE it.

They get that info reliably only from their own web properties. And no, I'm not saying that they don't use the data. Their game is to sell targeted advertising, and control the web.

However, "collects something" is not even close to "uses it for particular purpose".

Originally Posted by PBMax

Surely they don't spend countless time and money on data mining all of us for nothing.

I'm not sure how you can say that right after listing some ways in which they use the data.

Originally Posted by PBMax

And even if Hell has ice cubes, pigs start flying and direct traffic doesn't help rankings, this is still secondary to the fact that people are bypassing Google anyway because a search has become unnecessary.

Unnecessary to whom? What kind of scenario are you talking about? Bypassing how? What are they using instead of search engines to find information that they need?

And please don't say direct links, because that's just not true. People trust Google to remember even website addresses.

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PBMax

11 years ago

Originally Posted by nettiapina

Is that a figure of speech? What the heck is a "browser on top of a search engine"? It makes no sense if taken literally or from technical point of view.

They get that info reliably only from their own web properties. And no, I'm not saying that they don't use the data. Their game is to sell targeted advertising, and control the web.

However, "collects something" is not even close to "uses it for particular purpose".

I'm not sure how you can say that right after listing some ways in which they use the data.

Unnecessary to whom? What kind of scenario are you talking about? Bypassing how? What are they using instead of search engines to find information that they need?

And please don't say direct links, because that's just not true. People trust Google to remember even website addresses.

Obviously direct links. Do you honestly need Google search to help you remember a website name? Google search is for people WHO DON"T KNOW where to go. If a person knows where to go, then they don't need a shepherd.

So this is bypassing Google. Did you need it to get here?

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nettiapina

11 years ago

Originally Posted by PBMax

Obviously direct links. Do you honestly need Google search to help you remember a website name? Google search is for people WHO DON"T KNOW where to go. If a person knows where to go, then they don't need a shepherd.

So this is bypassing Google. Did you need it to get here?

Yes, people do google website addresses. What I do or don't do is irrelevant, and if you stopped to think for a moment you'd probably realize what brought me here. That's right, my trusty browser that happens to remember the address or ping Google for it. So not only irrelevant, but completely pointless for the discussion.

However, website addresses are just a tangentially relevant to your claim. You've not given any reason to even consider your idea that search engines are becoming somehow obsolete. Actually it's the opposite.

Nowadays it's quite common to not know exact procedures, but have a general idea of what can be done. There's so much stuff in any given field that remembering it is impossible. Search engine (local, global, niche...) is the extended memory that finds the recipe you don't have at hand.

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PBMax

11 years ago

Originally Posted by nettiapina

Yes, people do google website addresses. No, that's got nothing to do with me, and it's pointless to ask such a silly question. What I do or don't do is irrelevant.

So you're not a person?

Originally Posted by nettiapina

However, website addresses are just a tangentially relevant to your claim. You've not given any reason to even consider your idea that search engines are becoming somehow obsolete. Actually it's the opposite.

You're missing the point. They CAN BE made obsolete if you break your addiction to Google and do business like it used to be done: in person. I'm speaking locally, of course.

Originally Posted by nettiapina

Nowadays it's quite common to not know exact procedures, but have an idea of what can be done. There's so much stuff in any given field that remembering it is impossible. Search engine (local, global, niche...) is the extended memory that finds the recipe you don't have at hand.

Not gonna lie, not putting the puzzle together on this last part. So...huh?

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nettiapina

11 years ago

Originally Posted by PBMax

So you're not a person?

That line of argumentation is just utterly pointless. I try to not use myself as an example of anything, because I know the web a bit too well to be a representative example. If you disregard the bots that's probably true for most of us on this forum.

It's not even too great as a rhetorical device. Would it kill you to drop it?

Originally Posted by PBMax

You're missing the point. They CAN BE made obsolete if you break your addiction to Google and do business like it used to be done: in person. I'm speaking locally, of course.

Ok, so you meant to say that you'd really like for Google search to lose its clout. That's not the same as current reality or how things work.

I think you've got a fairly convoluted image of this "in person" stuff, or how it could work in the internet and in 2015. We're talking about web search, and having an underdog in the position #7 is as "in person" as you can get.

Having said that, I don't fully disagree with you on either point (as I see them - which is another discussion I guess).

Originally Posted by PBMax

Not gonna lie, not putting the puzzle together on this last part. So...huh?

People use computer devices as their extended memory, and search is an important tool in that process.

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PBMax

11 years ago

Originally Posted by nettiapina

Ok, so you meant to say that you'd really like for Google search to lose its clout. That's not the same as current reality or how things work.

I think you've got a fairly convoluted image of this "in person" stuff, or how it could work in the internet and in 2015.

People use computer devices as their extended memory, and search is an important tool in that process.

So you don't value your own opinion, yet give it freely here, got it. I'll drop using you as a human reference.

I know too well how "in person" stuff works because I'm a person and I know small business owners are already leery of Big Brother (ie Google) and their clear bias towards both advertisers (who pay WAY TOO MUCH for friends) and big business. I know for a fact that if there was an end-around Google allowing people to get to the small biz without journeying with Frodo through Mordor they would LOVE it. Enter direct traffic, stage right.

Reintroducing brand awareness (which has long taken a backseat to backlinking please don't deny it) is the small biz owner's best and last shot.

Brand Awareness =/= backlinking or SERPs, FYI.

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nettiapina

11 years ago

Originally Posted by PBMax

So you don't value your own opinion, yet give it freely here, got it. I'll drop using you as a human reference.

Are you trying to collect all the fallacies and bad discussion tropes here? I've not been pointing out the constant false analogies and silly generalizations, but I can start doing that if you really, really wish.

Originally Posted by PBMax

I know for a fact that if there was an end-around Google allowing people to get to the small biz without journeying with Frodo through Mordor they would LOVE it. Enter direct traffic, stage right.

I'm not sure why you haven't yet explained this glorious method that allows us to bypass Google. Go ahead, then.

Originally Posted by PBMax

Reintroducing brand awareness (which has long taken a backseat to backlinking please don't deny it) is the small biz owner's best and last shot.

Brand Awareness =/= backlinking or SERPs, FYI.

Errr... Quite a few SEOs and AFAIK Google have talked about brands and branding when it comes to SEO. Are you familiar with these discussions?

Also, backlinking is a part of an optimizing process that's a just a small subset of web marketing. I'd put branding and awareness in the overall marketing task list. So in my book it's on a higher level than SEO. I have to deny your conclusion because it's completely backwards.

If you don't want to see all this discussion about backlinking, you should really try one of the other forums on WF. Because we're talking about the itty bitty sector of SEO.

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PBMax

11 years ago

Originally Posted by nettiapina

Are you trying to collect all the fallacies and bad discussion tropes here? I've not been pointing out the constant false analogies and silly generalizations, but I can start doing that if you really, really wish.

I'm not sure why you haven't yet explained this glorious method that allows us to bypass Google. Go ahead, then.

Errr... Quite a few SEOs and Google have talked about brands and branding when it comes to SEO. Are you familiar with these discussions?

Also, backlinking is a part of an optimizing process that's a just a small subset of web marketing. I'd put branding in the overall marketing task list. So in my book it's on a higher level than SEO.

Yes, I have to deny your conclusion. That's just completely backwards. If you don't want a lot of discussion about backlinking, you should really try one of the other forums on WF. Because we're talking about that itty bitty sector.

Ha, I actually do enjoy your wit, but I was referring to someone else who's probably in the bleachers that mentioned that rankings were brand awareness, which, in a sense, they are, but not really.

We'll probably just have to agree to disagree here. No worries. Take care.

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nettiapina 11 years ago

Originally Posted by SEO-Dave

Those three activities will not improve Google rankings.

To be fair OP might've been talking about fast indexing, and this user might've been talking about that too. As usual it's a bit muddy.
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seorooz 11 years ago

thanks for everyone
1) Pinging the URLs (there are tons of free pinging websites. Just search google for "url pinger") !?
the URLs fast fetch...
2) Adding links to your signature on the forum؟
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3) Do some quick sharing on social media؟!
The typical social network..
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https://twitter.com/siteiranfilm
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Tim3

11 years ago

Originally Posted by seorooz

Hello to all
The best method for fast indexing of content on Google..
And above all the content on the first page of Google is?

fast indexing of content ...

...Adsense code, YT, Google Page Speed tool

above all the content on the first page...

Contextual links from NYT, Whitehouse.gov, BBC.co.uk, MSN, NASA.gov

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astraler

11 years ago

These methods may be a solution for fast index. Need to try.

http://www.warriorforum.com/search-e...ml#post7807651

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prraha270288 Banned 11 years ago

I personally find social bookmarking is a great way to index a page almost within a few hours...no i am talking about using some spam sites, you can social bookmark your page on reddit, stumbleupon, scoopt it and pinterest and see the result!! Trust me it works great..for me at least!
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seorooz

11 years ago

Yes, of course
But most of these things are...

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mrhmamun

11 years ago

Submit URL in various Free Pinging sites such as pingler dot com smallseotools dot com and Search Engines for quick indexing.

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habibkhan01 Banned 11 years ago

If your question is which search engines you need to index your links. I suggest you just focus on google and thats enough.
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seorooz 11 years ago

Originally Posted by mrhmamun

Submit URL in various Free Pinging sites such as pingler dot com smallseotools dot com and Search Engines for quick indexing.

Ping the normal link to the Google algorithm is not correct in my view it
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Hemanth Malli

11 years ago

Hello,
I would suggest to use PPC [Pay Per Click] services to get indexed very quickly. You can also opt for SEO services but this will not give faster results. You can start a Social Media Campaign to reach out more people and this will also fetch you instant results.

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st0nec0ld

11 years ago

Originally Posted by seorooz

Hello to all
The best method for fast indexing of content on Google..
And above all the content on the first page of Google is?

Well, the best would probably be content marketing.
If you want to rank your site on SERP then the best thing would be to talk a lot about your product or any topic relevant to your niche. Start by blogging. And then, extend your resource to different platforms. In that way you are able to build an online presence all over the web.

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11 years ago

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