Power of Content in SEO

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by mminhajuddin

We all know that content is king and it plays most important factor for ranking sites on the top of SERPs. But we can not avoid social media which also plays great value for SEO ranking. So, it is a good idea to write quality content which readers love and also search engines!

I also think that links are queen! What do you think? Am i right!

You have no idea about ranking pages on Google SERPs.

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mminhajuddin

11 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

You have no idea about ranking pages on Google SERPs.

Are you sure! Ok let me know it please.

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KylieSweet

11 years ago

Originally Posted by mminhajuddin

We all know that content is king and it plays most important factor for ranking sites on the top of SERPs. But we can not avoid social media which also plays great value for SEO ranking. So, it is a good idea to write quality content which readers love and also search engines!

I also think that links are queen! What do you think? Am i right!

Originally Posted by yukon

You have no idea about ranking pages on Google SERPs.

Originally Posted by mminhajuddin

Are you sure! Ok let me know it please.

Yukon point it out and How come that social media plays great value for SEO ranking? Do you have any supporting statements to explain this?

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jamesfreddyc 11 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

You have no idea about ranking pages on Google SERPs.

I kinda liked the "links are queen" line

I think I will start using that line around the office.
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- mminhajuddin 11 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by jamesfreddyc
  
  I kinda liked the "links are queen" line
  
  I think I will start using that line around the office.
  
  Ha ha ha.. I will also do!
  
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SEO-Dave

11 years ago

Originally Posted by mminhajuddin

We all know that content is king and it plays most important factor for ranking sites on the top of SERPs. But we can not avoid social media which also plays great value for SEO ranking. So, it is a good idea to write quality content which readers love and also search engines!

I also think that links are queen! What do you think? Am i right!

No, not really.

Content alone won't generate traffic, so it's not king.

Lots of dofollow links can generate traffic with barely any content.

If anything links are king, though I wouldn't describe it that way.

Social network sites have no direct SEO value, links/likes from Facebook for example pass no direct SEO value (likes mean nothing SEO wise, links from social networks are nofollow so ignored).

So you are pretty much wrong on all counts I'm afraid.

SEO isn't that difficult to understand, webpages with content plus backlinks Google counts (likes are not links, links that are nofollow are ignored) equals Google SERPs.

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mminhajuddin

11 years ago

Originally Posted by SEO-Dave

No, not really.

Content alone won't generate traffic, so it's not king.

Lots of dofollow links can generate traffic with barely any content.

If anything links are king, though I wouldn't describe it that way.

Social network sites have no direct SEO value, links/likes from Facebook for example pass no direct SEO value (likes mean nothing SEO wise, links from social networks are nofollow so ignored).

So you are pretty much wrong on all counts I'm afraid.

SEO isn't that difficult to understand, webpages with content plus backlinks Google counts (likes are not links, links that are nofollow are ignored) equals Google SERPs.

David

Social network sites have no direct SEO value, links/likes from Facebook for example pass no direct SEO value (likes mean nothing SEO wise, links from social networks are nofollow so ignored).

Yes it is completely right

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kk075

11 years ago

Originally Posted by SEO-Dave

No, not really.

Content alone won't generate traffic, so it's not king.

Lots of dofollow links can generate traffic with barely any content.

If anything links are king, though I wouldn't describe it that way.

Social network sites have no direct SEO value, links/likes from Facebook for example pass no direct SEO value (likes mean nothing SEO wise, links from social networks are nofollow so ignored).

So you are pretty much wrong on all counts I'm afraid.

SEO isn't that difficult to understand, webpages with content plus backlinks Google counts (likes are not links, links that are nofollow are ignored) equals Google SERPs.

David

None of that is even remotely true. Not a single word of it.

Lots of do-follow links are called link spam and that ended in 2013. And since nobody is naturally going to link to you if you don't have great content, Google penalizes those sites right off the bat.

Content is king, queen, prince, royal family, jester, cook, and servants. Because without great content, you won't get those on-page statistics that Google values so highly. Those can't be faked....either people see things on your site that interest them or they don't.

Backlinks are still mildly important, but they've lost their value because of the spammers of the world. So low quality links are now basically useless while high quality ones are golden. The idea of building lots and lots of links is a serious mistake though; Google knows better.

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Hostnameclub

11 years ago

Originally Posted by kk075

None of that is even remotely true. Not a single word of it.

Lots of do-follow links are called link spam and that ended in 2013. And since nobody is naturally going to link to you if you don't have great content, Google penalizes those sites right off the bat.

Content is king, queen, prince, royal family, jester, cook, and servants. Because without great content, you won't get those on-page statistics that Google values so highly. Those can't be faked....either people see things on your site that interest them or they don't.

Backlinks are still mildly important, but they've lost their value because of the spammers of the world. So low quality links are now basically useless while high quality ones are golden. The idea of building lots and lots of links is a serious mistake though; Google knows better.

You told right. I believe content is king whatever how much backlinks you are.
We can track bot crawling on Google Webmaster Tool to see how many your content is value with visitors.

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SEO-Dave

11 years ago

Originally Posted by kk075

None of that is even remotely true. Not a single word of it.

Lots of do-follow links are called link spam and that ended in 2013. And since nobody is naturally going to link to you if you don't have great content, Google penalizes those sites right off the bat.

Content is king, queen, prince, royal family, jester, cook, and servants. Because without great content, you won't get those on-page statistics that Google values so highly. Those can't be faked....either people see things on your site that interest them or they don't.

Backlinks are still mildly important, but they've lost their value because of the spammers of the world. So low quality links are now basically useless while high quality ones are golden. The idea of building lots and lots of links is a serious mistake though; Google knows better.

Of course some of it is true, my name is David so at least one word is true, or are you saying my name isn't David :-)

Consider exactly what I'm saying.

I am NOT saying content is unimportant. I'm saying on it's own it will not generate Google SERPs.

How many of you have created awesome content that in your opinion is far better than the competition, yet your content isn't ranked on Google. Why?

Because alone content does not equal SERPs, if it did anyone could create better content and immediately rank number 1 for any SERP. Evenn having great content doesn't mean your site will generate the backlinks required for it to rank high, some webmasters are much better at promotion than others.

Google does not rank webpages based on the quality of their content, Google doesn't have a way to determine the true quality of content, it uses other signals which suggest it's quality and those signals can be easily manipulated.

Therefore content is not king.

Content is important, high quality content can generate backlinks which Google uses as a major ranking factor, but it's not the content per se generating the rankings it's the links.

Take the links away, no SERPs.

Feel free to prove me wrong with some examples of awesome content that lacks backlinks which is ranking high in Google.

I have rubbish content sites which generate more SERPs than much higher quality content sites because I've worked harder/longer on the backlinks for the rubbish content.

You know if content were king there would be no need for SEO, we'd be paying academics to generate the best content.

David

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TheAtHomeCouple

11 years ago

Originally Posted by SEO-Dave

No, not really.

Content alone won't generate traffic, so it's not king.

Lots of dofollow links can generate traffic with barely any content.

If anything links are king, though I wouldn't describe it that way.

Social network sites have no direct SEO value, links/likes from Facebook for example pass no direct SEO value (likes mean nothing SEO wise, links from social networks are nofollow so ignored).

So you are pretty much wrong on all counts I'm afraid.

SEO isn't that difficult to understand, webpages with content plus backlinks Google counts (likes are not links, links that are nofollow are ignored) equals Google SERPs.

David

My interpretation of content is king has always been THE INTERNET is CONTENT.

Without content, there is no web. Let alone SEO...

Without content, there is nothing to create a backlink with (which usually resides on a page with content)

So... in the grand scheme of things, yes, content in all it's forms is king when it comes to SEO because content is what people are searching for in the first place.

Know what I mean?

Semantics...

I couldn't agree more about SEO not being hard to understand. It's content and links at the end of the day.

I've never worried about Google updates or losing rank.. Great content, great links, great layout (to convert), and great experience (mobile, fast load time) to bring them back.

That's it.

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Jasonmills

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by SEO-Dave

No, not really.

Content alone won't generate traffic, so it's not king.

Lots of dofollow links can generate traffic with barely any content.

If anything links are king, though I wouldn't describe it that way.

Social network sites have no direct SEO value, links/likes from Facebook for example pass no direct SEO value (likes mean nothing SEO wise, links from social networks are nofollow so ignored).

So you are pretty much wrong on all counts I'm afraid.

SEO isn't that difficult to understand, webpages with content plus backlinks Google counts (likes are not links, links that are nofollow are ignored) equals Google SERPs.

David

I agree with you.

Quality Content + Quality Links (do-follow) + Targeted Traffic = Money

Content can't become a king alone.

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nettiapina

11 years ago

Originally Posted by mminhajuddin

But we can not avoid social media which also plays great value for SEO ranking.

Can you explain the mechanism you're proposing here? How exactly does social media "play great value"?

The basics of SEO are not that hard. Either you've got a backlink that passes "Google juice", or you don't. If you have no idea how your proposed model might work it's likely just wishful thinking. And that's what "social signals" are for the most part.

Sharing content may get you backlinks from other site owners, but that's not social media directly affecting rankings.

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mminhajuddin

11 years ago

Originally Posted by nettiapina

Can you explain the mechanism you're proposing here? How exactly does social media "play great value"?

The basics of SEO are not that hard. Either you've got a backlink that passes "Google juice", or you don't. If you have no idea how your proposed model might work it's likely just wishful thinking. And that's what "social signals" are for the most part.

Sharing content may get you backlinks from other site owners, but that's not social media directly affecting rankings.

Sharing content may get you backlinks from other site owners, but that's not social media directly affecting rankings.

Yes, you have provided great value. Agreed!

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spurge0n

11 years ago

I once wrote an article entitled "Here are the best anime on Hulu plus." I didn't do any back linking. It is still # 2 on Google.

If you produce enough content and your site is indexed, something will likely rank. Buzzfeed didn't anticipate that a post about dress colors would hit 18 million views, but it did.

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SEO-Dave

11 years ago

Originally Posted by spurge0n

I once wrote an article entitled "Here are the best anime on Hulu plus." I didn't do any back linking. It is still # 2 on Google.

If you produce enough content and your site is indexed, something will likely rank. Buzzfeed didn't anticipate that a post about dress colors would hit 18 million views, but it did.

Do you mean you didn't do link building directly to that article?

What about to the home page and other pages on the site, were any links pointing at the domain?

I'd assume yes, those are backlinks. All the links will help your article you never built a link to just like when searching Google for "Power of Content in SEO" (title of this forum post) you'll find this page in the top 10 even though no one is building links directly to this webpage.

David

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Hemanth Malli

11 years ago

Well. You are right but there are also several other factors that are very important for SEO ranking. Having good content will always be an asset to a Website. Using Social Media you can also achieve higher page rank and can generate higher traffic to your Website.

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william17

11 years ago

Only posting quality content does not help in SEO, promoting it is much more beneficial, otherwise you will not get the sufficient traffic.

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sheenagoyal13

11 years ago

content is the king. if your site having unique content then traffic will increase very quickly but content should be attractive and contain useful information so that user will read this content.

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Slade556

11 years ago

Originally Posted by mminhajuddin

But we can not avoid social media which also plays great value for SEO ranking.

Nope, that's not right.
Social media is no follow, therefore there is no value for SEO ranking. None. Nada. Zilch.
However, social media IS important, but only in terms of getting traffic and branding a business, getting fans to know you and what you do.

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SEWARRIOR

11 years ago

Link and content make it a perfect couple.( ex wikipedia which have massive content and backlinks). without content or link combination their is no king or queen. so any one of it alone make it half baked

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SDBradfo

11 years ago

Social media is good for brand management and reputation but it have no effect on SEO at all.

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jamesfreddyc

11 years ago

Aw man Bishal got banned? I'm really going to miss the incessant references to his Mother's day 2015 page/blog/thing!

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nmwf

11 years ago

I really don't know why people insist on saying social media plays no role in SEO when that's been a connection for quite a while now.

In Google's own http://static.googleusercontent.com/...rter-guide.pdf, the company writes, "Users know good content when they see it and will likely want to direct other users to it. This could be through blog posts, social media services, email, forums, or other means. Organic or word-of-mouth buzz is what helps build your site's reputation with both users and Google, and it rarely comes without quality content."

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yukon

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by nmwf

I really don't know why people insist on saying social media plays no role in SEO when that's been a connection for quite a while now.

In Google's own http://static.googleusercontent.com/...rter-guide.pdf, the company writes, "Users know good content when they see it and will likely want to direct other users to it. This could be through blog posts, social media services, email, forums, or other means. Organic or word-of-mouth buzz is what helps build your site's reputation with both users and Google, and it rarely comes without quality content."

You're confusing alternative traffic sources with ranking pages in Google SERPs.

Nobody is ranking pages with Tweets.

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nmwf

11 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

You're confusing alternative traffic sources with ranking pages in Google SERPs.

Nobody is ranking pages with Tweets.

I haven't confused anything.

"Organic or word-of-mouth buzz (ALTERNATIVE TRAFFIC SOURCES) is what helps build your site's reputation (RANKING) with both users and Google, and it rarely comes without quality content."

Where, exactly, is the confusion?

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yukon

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by nmwf

I haven't confused anything.

"Organic or word-of-mouth buzz (ALTERNATIVE TRAFFIC SOURCES) is what helps build your site's reputation (RANKING) with both users and Google, and it rarely comes without quality content."

Where, exactly, is the confusion?

Odds are social traffic is building nofollow links on social platforms If they're even sharing the content (BIG If). In other words, it's not ranking pages.

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Web Work Horse

11 years ago

Content is king and will be for the foreseeable future.

Hands down.

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mminhajuddin

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Roshnishrivastava

Content is the king of SEO and without quality content it won't be possible for anybody to get good rank in Google. So, write good content so that visitors can get good info about your online business easily.

Yes, i also think content is king always!

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christina21maria

11 years ago

Friends, I'm finding it not only helpful to search your name but make sure you are searching your business name. Recently i have found business listings that had incorrect information. SO check both. This is great information Thanks once again

Originally Posted by mminhajuddin

We all know that content is king and it plays most important factor for ranking sites on the top of SERPs. But we can not avoid social media which also plays great value for SEO ranking. So, it is a good idea to write quality content which readers love and also search engines!

I also think that links are queen! What do you think? Am i right!

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chrisjohn93

11 years ago

Content is everything for organic SEO Results

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jerrodrobker

11 years ago

Of course content is king. You must provide good contents to improve your website.It'll attract Traffic to your website.

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rahulmishra

11 years ago

You are absolutely right gentleman..............

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Jeff Willy

11 years ago

I am pretty sure that you have a goal in mind. I understand that you are giving greater value to your website by giving them high quality optimized content. However, content might not be enough without traffic. You should try engage your content through social media fan pages, groups or even share it your wall. Always give your audience some greater value for good. Make sure that you also do your homework first before optimizing your website to the next level. As long you use the law of attraction (ask, believe, receive) that you can reach your goal with positive attitude, one day it will become reality.

Cheers and good luck!

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Eagle07

11 years ago

High quality content and high quality back links have been and will always be the backbone of my SEO in my affiliate sites. In order to maintain the ranking, I always have to give what Google wants. There are three that I maintain, here are the first two:

1. For on page optimization - High Quality Content is King

2. for off page optimization - High Quality Backlinks are Kings still =)

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alexchen23

11 years ago

In my opinion, both of them are important.

Quality content, backlinks...

SEO are harder today. If you want to rank high in Google, you have give what Google want.

http://static.googleusercontent.com/...rter-guide.pdf

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habibkhan01

Banned 11 years ago

Unique and informative content helps you for getting traffic and ranking But mostly it will depend on your seo and marketing process.

When you will write content must remember that " Content just for your visitors not Search Engines"

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Jasonmills

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by habibkhan01

Unique and informative content helps you for getting traffic and ranking But mostly it will depend on your seo and marketing process.

When you will write content must remember that " Content just for your visitors not Search Engines"

Definitely, I agree with you.

We should write content to solve readers problem. Content of our site should have the answers to the readers.

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ShawnSwail

11 years ago

In current time content is the king in the SEO technique. Google mostly prefer high quality content based back links to boost rankings of the keywords in the search engine. By quality content we can get easily top ranking through content marketing and content promotion.

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eliteimagesoftware

11 years ago

I do agree with this content is really the king .It is good to get high traffic but a lot more plays vital role to get traffic to the website.

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DABK 11 years ago

King of what?

Of SEO?

I ranked pages with nothing but title with keyword in it, in h1, and keyword in url.

I've seen blank pages ranking during my research.

No, none of these were competitive keywords.

But, for competitive keywords, I end up on page 2 or 3 (with nothing but keyword in h1 and url, beating hundreds of pages with the king on.

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I do agree with this content is really the king .It is good to get high traffic but a lot more plays vital role to get traffic to the website.
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