quick question on seo

by skillfull Banned
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hi everyone

just have a question regarding seo in regards to ranking a page
my question is: if there is a keyword with e.g. 30,000 search volume and a 1000 competing sites, how long will it take for that keyword to rank in 1st page of search engine?

your answers will be of great help

thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
    Anyone's guess, OP. It always depends on Page One competition. But! Given the search volume, you'll almost surely have stiff PO competition. Short answer: a long time, I'm afraid.

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  • Profile picture of the author jazbo
    3 weeks, 22 hours, 18 minutes....
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    • Profile picture of the author skillfull
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      Originally Posted by jazbo View Post

      3 weeks, 22 hours, 18 minutes....
      thats quiet specific thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by jazbo View Post

      3 weeks, 22 hours, 18 minutes....
      I see you rounded up to the next whole minute.
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    • Profile picture of the author josoftech
      Originally Posted by jazbo View Post

      3 weeks, 22 hours, 18 minutes....
      Great!!
      How you can analysis it in minute.?
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    • Profile picture of the author abhishek786
      Originally Posted by jazbo View Post

      3 weeks, 22 hours, 18 minutes....
      Well this is the correct answer. And one minute = one day i guess?
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    • Profile picture of the author spazz896
      Originally Posted by jazbo View Post

      3 weeks, 22 hours, 18 minutes....
      Really? I think more like

      3 weeks, 22 hours, and 13 minutes... by using a title meta title, LOL
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      • Profile picture of the author MW Ghostwriting
        The reality is that most of those sites are far from perfect.

        If you take a look at the number of pages that contain your keyword in their title, you don't have to aim at such a low number as 1,000 pages.

        At the same time, you don't want too 'much' competition. A reasonable number to compete with is going to be less than 100,000, but you also want to look at the quality of those pages.

        Consider that the top 10 are the best of each. You can score your competition on many factors, and remember to check their SEO as well.

        The amount of time it takes is set to a minimum. Google will index your site over intervals of time that decrease as you remain consistent.

        Relevancy is very important as well. Google wants to find search results that relate as close as possible with what a person is searching for, and also deems 'quality'.

        You'll notice that many times your competition has a ton of information that doesn't relate directly to the search term, and isn't narrow enough.

        Given the proper search and social marketing techniques, as well as thorough market research (cutting corners could waste a year of your time), you could potentially be ranking for many keywords very quickly.

        The more keywords you rank for that are relevant to your niche, the greater authority it will have, and the greater your results will be.

        As is mentioned above, there is no specific time limit. Each keyword will take a certain duration of time, and if you rank each one strategically within an appropriate niche, your success is 'possible'.

        This term 'possible' is another way of looking at how easy it will be.
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  • Profile picture of the author jipolis7
    It all depends on the SEO techniques you are using, the type of people you manage to impress and bring on your site, the competition, how good you are and more. However, this is not the right way to think about SEO, you should consider learning more first and then thinking about ranking on the first page.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
    Did something happen to the SEO subforum?
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    • Profile picture of the author Tim3
      Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

      Did something happen to the SEO subforum?
      Yes John,

      it's a job nowadays wading through the spammers to find an OP that actually replies to the answers given in a thread, apart from that it is sinking nicely

      Have you checked the Wafo membership numbers lately?
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  • Profile picture of the author Veromon
    I think you must to understand it is a competition. Other sites will not remain fixed, they are like moving targets, and many of them has the advantage of age. So, when you will rank in 1st page? what do you think now?
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  • Profile picture of the author leadscrape
    Impossible to give to a true answer.
    How competitive is the keyword? How old is your site? Are you just starting?

    It's extremely hard to make any projection, who tell you I can make your site n.1 for that keyword in x weeks is either not serious or going to use black hat techniques that in the long term will only hurt your domain.
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  • Profile picture of the author BrownBeard
    Originally Posted by skillfull View Post

    hi everyone

    just have a question regarding seo in regards to ranking a page
    my question is: if there is a keyword with e.g. 30,000 search volume and a 1000 competing sites, how long will it take for that keyword to rank in 1st page of search engine?

    your answers will be of great help

    thanks
    Well, ye're sayin' 1,000 competin' sites. I have no idea whar ye came up wit' th' number, but th' reality be that every site on th' internet be competin' against it. I understand ye probably don't want to gift out th' keyword, but be 'tis a "buyer" keyword or entertainment? Nobody gunna be able to gift ye a real answer wit' ye just mentionin' th' keyword.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim3
    Originally Posted by skillfull View Post

    hi everyone

    just have a question regarding seo in regards to ranking a page
    my question is: if there is a keyword with e.g. 30,000 search volume and a 1000 competing sites, how long will it take for that keyword to rank in 1st page of search engine?

    your answers will be of great help

    thanks
    It doesn't matter if the search volume is 3 or 3 billion, you have 10 competing sites on the first page of the SERP's, if you want to be at number 1, you have just one competitior, all you have to do is beat the site at the number 1 position.

    Check their backlinks, how long will it take you to get more quality links than they have?
    1 week, 1 month? 1 year? 10 years? Never?
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    • Profile picture of the author BrownBeard
      Originally Posted by Tim3 View Post

      It doesn't matter if the search volume is 3 or 3 billion, you have 10 competing sites on the first page of the SERP's, if you want to be at number 1, you have just one competitior, all you have to do is beat the site at the number 1 position.

      Check their backlinks, how long will it take you to get more quality links than they have?
      1 week, 1 month? 1 year? 10 years? Never?
      Many people don't really think 'bout link velocity. If a site has shout 25k links 'n they all seem quality 'n ye're tryin' to compete against it. ye actually have a deadly serious problem because by th' the hour ye get, shout 1,000 quality links, ye competition may now have 30k quality links. So 'tis actually impossible to outrank them completely.
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      • Profile picture of the author Tim3
        Originally Posted by BrownBeard View Post

        Many people don't really think 'bout link velocity. If a site has shout 25k links 'n they all seem quality 'n ye're tryin' to compete against it. ye actually have a deadly serious problem because by th' the hour ye get, shout 1,000 quality links, ye competition may now have 30k quality links. So 'tis actually impossible to outrank them completely.
        Aaaarrrhh, 'tis true what ye speak of shipmate, 'tis why I put 'never'
        landlubbers would need a double ration of link quality, then the evil King G, may give 'em the Black Spot!

        'kin 'ell I've started talking like a seafaring man myself.


        P.S. Have you got a wooden leg
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        • Profile picture of the author BrownBeard
          Originally Posted by Tim3 View Post

          Aaaarrrhh, 'tis true what ye speak of shipmate, 'tis why I put 'never'
          landlubbers would need a double ration of link quality, then the evil King G, may give 'em the Black Spot!

          'kin 'ell I've started talking like a seafaring man myself.


          P.S. Have you got a wooden leg
          Both peglegs, rusted hook arm. I was fightin' a lion in South Africa.
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          • Profile picture of the author Tim3
            Originally Posted by BrownBeard View Post

            Both peglegs, rusted hook arm. I was fightin' a lion in South Africa.
            Cor, I bet that stung a bit.
            Was you looking for Captain Morgan's treasure with your band of cutthroats or just on a safari holiday with Mrs Brownbeard and the young shavers?

            I suppose you have to be careful when you scratch your arse?
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  • Profile picture of the author skillfull
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    thanks all for the reply this is really insightful
    much appreciated
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
    Originally Posted by Tim3 View Post

    Yes John,

    it's a job nowadays wading through the spammers to find an OP that actually replies to the answers given in a thread, apart from that it is sinking nicely

    Have you checked the Wafo membership numbers lately?
    I'll buy that.

    Truth is, the only time I end up in that section is when I've replied to a post on the main board, come to think of it.

    To answer your original question, though, it takes as long as it takes. Too many variables to be more precise. If you want to shorten the time, you might want to check out resources like the MOZ blog, Neil Patel's stuff and a few others.
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  • Profile picture of the author samuk
    Sorry, somehow I posted previous message with finishing it. There are so many different factors such as 1. Domain name 2. Domain age 3. Website Design 4. Website Speed 5. SSL Certificate for your website 6. Premium and unique Content 7. Social Media Signals 8. Backlinks from high authority websites and from relevant content...
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