Road to Adsense Success

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Hey guys,

I have been on this forum for the past 4 months, was on DP before. I have learnt soo much and feed off the positive atmosphere here.

But like many others I get stuck in the victim state mind and decided to change that. I am creating this thread as a journal that will start my adsense revenue from $0 and hopefully lead to something great. If not, then great lessons are learnt.

The point of this thread is to get me to take ACTION, no more wanting state.

This was insipired by Xfactor's and Internetmarketer99's threads of adsense. I have ready through their threads and find that I got stuck with questions. Questions to which the only answer lies in TRYING. There is no security.

Game plan:
After much research, I have an informative niche that has at least 3000 search's a month. It's not product but rather informative. This is going to be my test site.

Goal: To make $1 in a month. I set too many high expectations. This time it I am taking baby steps.

After this I will increase it to $2 so on and so forth.

Ultimate goal: to make $100 - $300/day, but that is far away. Patience is key.

Next step: I am going to buy a domain with the keyword and get content out.

This is my journal you can call it. If you would like to join, then go ahead. The positive atmosphere would be nice.

Time to make mistakes.!!!


Mods: If this is in the wrong area, I apologize. I thought it would be good here cause its for adsense.
#adsense #road #success
  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    Just bought my domain and going to setup wordpress and get ideas to get content going.

    I forgot to apply for an adsense account. Of all the things! hehehe.
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    • Profile picture of the author XFactor
      Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

      Just bought my domain and going to setup wordpress and get ideas to get content going.

      I forgot to apply for an adsense account. Of all the things! hehehe.
      Good luck! Maybe this will also inspire other new publishers
      to take action.

      Just be sure to do something every day for your business.

      - John
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      • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
        Originally Posted by XFactor View Post

        Good luck! Maybe this will also inspire other new publishers
        to take action.

        Just be sure to do something every day for your business.

        - John
        Thanks John,

        Honestly, it was your whole thread that inspired me.

        No matter all the jewels you gave, one message that you kept repeating was: JUST GO AHEAD AND DO IT! MAKE MISTAKES!

        Thank you for the inspiration.
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      • Profile picture of the author JakeDaly
        I wish you the best of luck, Hamburglar. I, too, have just started to build my own AdSense empire with the help of Mark(internetmarketer99) and I'm entirely committed to start earning $50/day by October 1st. I acknowledge that your $1 first-month goal is conservative on purpose but I'm afraid it's so conservative it could be deemed defeatist. Based on the 'Get to $50,000 This Month' thread awhile back by Daniel Taylor, it's best to put yourself in the mind-frame of knowing that you're going to succeed and make tons of money, you just simply have to go after it.
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        • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
          Originally Posted by JakeDaly View Post

          I wish you the best of luck, Hamburglar. I, too, have just started to build my own AdSense empire with the help of Mark(internetmarketer99) and I'm entirely committed to start earning $50/day by October 1st. I acknowledge that your $1 first-month goal is conservative on purpose but I'm afraid it's so conservative it could be deemed defeatist. Based on the 'Get to $50,000 This Month' thread awhile back by Daniel Taylor, it's best to put yourself in the mind-frame of knowing that you're going to succeed and make tons of money, you just simply have to go after it.
          Well said,

          But in the event I set a goal that is high, my expectations will never be satisfied. I know I will reach $1. It is just a mental discipline for myself to be patient and take things slowly.

          I definitely do BELIEVE I will make it. I have had great success with my regular sites that have over 100 000 competition for the same keywords (after spending around $10k in seo).

          I believe I can and vision that one day I will get a check for $5000 from adsense. The point is that this all starts from something. I rather be realistic/optimistic then set a high goal and be dejected down the road.
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        • Profile picture of the author wordgeist
          Originally Posted by JakeDaly View Post

          I wish you the best of luck, Hamburglar. I, too, have just started to build my own AdSense empire with the help of Mark(internetmarketer99) and I'm entirely committed to start earning $50/day by October 1st. I acknowledge that your $1 first-month goal is conservative on purpose but I'm afraid it's so conservative it could be deemed defeatist. Based on the 'Get to $50,000 This Month' thread awhile back by Daniel Taylor, it's best to put yourself in the mind-frame of knowing that you're going to succeed and make tons of money, you just simply have to go after it.
          I just wondering if you reach your goal.
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    • Profile picture of the author marketseeker
      Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

      Just bought my domain and going to setup wordpress and get ideas to get content going.

      I forgot to apply for an adsense account. Of all the things! hehehe.
      I've been experamenting with wp virsus static html. I have 6 sites in the test. followed the exact path as xfactor. 3 html sites were indexed and made money the first day. I'm still waiting for the wp press sites to break 100 in Google. two site did a two day dance and then cam back and site at pos. 6, 2, 5 for their keywords, not many searches, only 1600 approx. each but that's what I'm going for. Total about $10-12 per day began on the 21st of last month. I'm going to transfer the blog content to static, no more word press for me.
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    • Profile picture of the author madmike133
      Just on the point of a new word press site, if you apply for a Google Adsense account, chances are you will be declined unless you have some original content on your blog that is.

      Google is far more choosy about who gets adsense accounts these days. I kid ye not
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    • Profile picture of the author blesslane7
      Thanks for making me feel like I am already a success. I love the $1.00 goal - it is kind of like weight loss, people who have a goal of loosing 5 pounds have much more success than those who set the initial goal of 80 pounds. Don't misunderstand, those who set the 5 pound goal will loose the 80 pounds but in 5 pound increments. The old saying "By the inch, it's a cinch. By the yard, it's hard." fits for practically everything.
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    So far

    1) Set up wordpress, took me soo long
    2) Put up an intro article with keywords
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    I had another website that is ranked high for a good keyword. Get about 400 uniques/month.

    I just placed my adsense on there. I hope my rank is not effected.

    Site #1
    Write one article by the end of today.
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    • Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

      I had another website that is ranked high for a good keyword. Get about 400 uniques/month.

      I just placed my adsense on there. I hope my rank is not effected.

      Site #1
      Write one article by the end of today.
      Hey Hamburglar,

      Placing Adsense on your site won't affect your ranking.

      Great work, especially in setting goals and envisioning success!

      Keep at it; regardless of your initial earnings, this is how you go from theory to success - action.

      Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author jplanigan
    I understand your position on the small achievable goal. I would say though that it may be a little too low, but you need to do what works for you and what you are comfortable with.

    I am following XFactor's method. I've done a bunch of keyword research, bought a couple domains, installed WP on them, and then hit a snag with the template (which I finally got sorted out last night). I haven't been able to put much time in lately due to some personal commitments, but I have worked on one of the blogs that happens to be in a niche that I really like. I took that site from purchasing the domain, to being indexed on page one for the main keyword with 4400 monthly searches and making $1/day in under 2 weeks. If Ezine would stop being so slow to approve articles, I could get the darn thing from position 8-10 up to the top 5 and be doing much better.

    This is why I think your goal is a little low. Yes it is very achievable, but maybe setting it a little higher would give you more of a drive to get things going. Not that I don't think you will. You sound motivated and I wish you the best of luck. I will be following your progress.

    Patrick
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    • Profile picture of the author kimmer551
      Originally Posted by jplanigan View Post

      I understand your position on the small achievable goal. I would say though that it may be a little too low, but you need to do what works for you and what you are comfortable with.

      I am following XFactor's method. I've done a bunch of keyword research, bought a couple domains, installed WP on them, and then hit a snag with the template (which I finally got sorted out last night). I haven't been able to put much time in lately due to some personal commitments, but I have worked on one of the blogs that happens to be in a niche that I really like. I took that site from purchasing the domain, to being indexed on page one for the main keyword with 4400 monthly searches and making $1/day in under 2 weeks. If Ezine would stop being so slow to approve articles, I could get the darn thing from position 8-10 up to the top 5 and be doing much better.

      This is why I think your goal is a little low. Yes it is very achievable, but maybe setting it a little higher would give you more of a drive to get things going. Not that I don't think you will. You sound motivated and I wish you the best of luck. I will be following your progress.

      Patrick
      So which adsense template do you have working for you? I have BlueSense. I have a template working for a couple of days, I did not doing any tracking, found I was getting clicks, and BAM! Lost all of my data, so I am looking for a decent adsense template!
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      • Profile picture of the author sluggo
        This is a very interesting thread. Hopefully it will help and motivate me.

        I am somewhat computer illiterate, but have figured out how to place Wordpress on my domains and have found a site with 12 specific Adsense themes. The template has Adsense placed on the top and right side of the page...apparently two of the best places for Adsense.

        I am not here to advertise for someone else, but these have been very effective for me. The designer is Mark Mason. I am not going to provide the link, but if you "google" nicheadsensethemes, I am sure you will find the link.

        Good luck!

        Sluggo
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    Thank you very much for the feedback guys. I have been working on it off and on.

    I am going to add one article from an article directory to fill it with some good content.

    Bluesense is now implemented.

    Now the important part:
    Unique content creation.
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  • Profile picture of the author homebse
    Hamburglar,
    You are certainly on the right track and I want to place my bet that you will succeed.
    It is taking EzineArticles about 2 weeks to get my articles approved, but I just keep putting them in the queue.
    I have also submitted some to ArticleBase, GoArticles and ArticleAlley. Have had 2 day turn around from ArticleBase.
    I have 4 sites up now based on John's ebook. My keywords are bouncing around on page 1 and 2 of Google. Mine are not blogs they are basic HTML built with Dreamweaver. I do have a blog that is doing pretty good with adsense but I find that I'm more of a static site person than a blog person, so I probably won't do another one that way. It is just a personal preference. Nothing wrong with making your money with a blog.
    If you keep at it you WILL do better than your $1 a month goal.
    I look forward to enjoying your success with you. Please keep posting your success to this thread.
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  • Profile picture of the author Shellaine
    I will follow your thread and hope fully you will get there which I know you can easily achieve. Actaully you putin your expectations to low. You could have aim for at least 3.00 dollars a month and then go on. this way you will be more active in fullfuling the Dream.
    I am helping a friend build her adsense empire and I put my clickbank links on her site and she is making at least 60.00 per month on one site. She started last year though.

    so good luck and all the best..

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    Wow,

    I greatly appreciate the support from you guys. I am truly moved. On one site I was selling leads from. So far today I have had 40 impressions on my sites.

    Static site: I fought about that a lot and wanted to start a static site but the flexibility to make it expand is a feature I want. My next site, will be for a super niche product static page.

    I am just trying to face my insecurity about writing. I always have trouble writing anything. Writing 300 words of valuable content seems like a huge burden. So far this is turning into an amazing adventure where I am facing my fears.

    So thanks guys.

    Back to work for me.
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    • Profile picture of the author ajparker
      Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

      Wow,

      I greatly appreciate the support from you guys. I am truly moved. On one site I was selling leads from. So far today I have had 40 impressions on my sites.

      Static site: I fought about that a lot and wanted to start a static site but the flexibility to make it expand is a feature I want. My next site, will be for a super niche product static page.

      I am just trying to face my insecurity about writing. I always have trouble writing anything. Writing 300 words of valuable content seems like a huge burden. So far this is turning into an amazing adventure where I am facing my fears.

      So thanks guys.

      Back to work for me.
      Insecurity about writing - that sounds like me. I'm a perfectionist and want everything to be just right. TOO often that keeps me from making forward progress. One thing that helps me is to look at some of the really incomprehensible articles I see sometimes at some of the article sites and realize that I (hopefully) can come across better than that even if it's the middle of the night and I'm on benedryl. The other fix is to "timebox" yourself and just force yourself to produce content and produce it in a short time.

      Avery
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      • Profile picture of the author peter gibson
        Originally Posted by ajparker View Post

        Insecurity about writing - that sounds like me. I'm a perfectionist and want everything to be just right. TOO often that keeps me from making forward progress. One thing that helps me is to look at some of the really incomprehensible articles I see sometimes at some of the article sites and realize that I (hopefully) can come across better than that even if it's the middle of the night and I'm on benedryl. The other fix is to "timebox" yourself and just force yourself to produce content and produce it in a short time.

        Avery
        This is spot on advice. Avery you rock. And lay off the cough medicine
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    Just submitted an article to Ezine. Took me an hour to write a good 260 word article.

    All in due time I will get there.

    I used the timebox method ajparker. Thank you for sharing that.
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    • Profile picture of the author rain21
      Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

      Just submitted an article to Ezine. Took me an hour to write a good 260 word article.

      All in due time I will get there.

      I used the timebox method ajparker. Thank you for sharing that.
      is ezine effectable, many people say that its difficult to get traffic from ezine
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  • Profile picture of the author webguru3287
    Good to c u determined...I am also going to start building my niche websites from this weekend..

    P.S CONTENT IS KING.
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    The 2 day mark!

    I made it this far. Normally I give up when I don't see results fast, but this is a long-term commitment. So since no clicks so far, the only thing I can control is promotions and content.

    I am going to launch a new site in a niche and based off a different strategy. Just testing to see how far it gets me.
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    • Profile picture of the author DireStraits
      Stick at it, my friend. I feel your struggle, for I'm on the same path and I also struggle with writing articles quickly, haha.

      Rest assured, though - money will follow if you take action.

      Although not much, I've earned around $6 within a few days over the last week from two small sites I've made and put online, with barely any backlinking - no articles as yet, and only about 3-4 pages of real content (Besides contact page and privacy policy) on each site.

      I expect as I add more pages, I will be found for further long tail keywords, and as backlinks are built my site will crawl up the rankings in Google and hopefully stay put with a little maintenance.

      Anyway, this is your road to success - not mine... but I just thought you might find it inspiring to hear of my (admittedly quite meager) progress so far :-)
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    • Profile picture of the author jplanigan
      @hawkeye_seo Here you go...

      XFactor's (John):
      http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...s-learned.html

      Internetmarketer99's (Mark):
      http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...w-adsense.html

      Another you might want a look at is Steve Crook's:
      http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...hs-1-blog.html
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      • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
        That last one is another excellent resource. I did not find that before. I am going to reading that one tonight.

        Thank you very much for that.

        Originally Posted by jplanigan View Post

        @hawkeye_seo Here you go...

        XFactor's (John):
        http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...s-learned.html

        Internetmarketer99's (Mark):
        http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...w-adsense.html

        Another you might want a look at is Steve Crook's:
        http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...hs-1-blog.html
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        • Profile picture of the author eqalias
          If you have an ok sense on where XFactor's theories are going (I'm starting to get it. For me the big hurdle is keyword research) you will make that first dollar quick, so be prepared for your next goal. My site went live 9 days ago and none of my articles are approved with Ezines yet. I have been submitting posts using Onlywire and just today I received three visitors from Digg. 2 of the 3 clicked my ads and boom, 93 cents. I've been submitting articles to 10 different directories and found a PR3 and PR4 forum in my niche that allows dofollow backlinks that I've been slowing adding quality post too. And all my pages are indexed in Google already.
          It's starting to look like their theories are taking shape but I still expect it to be a couple months to see what sticks. Like both those guys stated, it's a lot of work, but it looks like it's going to pay off.
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      • Profile picture of the author timosai
        i'm always veering away from adsense for alternative caignpain methods, so any inspiration will help
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        • Profile picture of the author falconflier19
          What I do is choose a niche that I can slide a CPA offer into or something from CJ. I test the niche first using adsense, see how the traffic flows and then test putting up a CPA offer. Then I see how the CPA offer converts. I get the results from the 2 tests and go with the better converting.

          But at least choosing niches that you are able to slide CJ or CPA into in the event that you get shut down from google, I think is essential.
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    Today was a complete write-off due to catching a cold.

    So in the midst of being drunk of benedryl, I read the posts above. In order for this project to succeed I need to get good content and lots of it.

    More content = More market reach. Good Content = Better ranking and conversion. It is that simple.
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    • Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post


      More content = More market reach. Good Content = Better ranking and conversion. It is that simple.
      You just summed up what some people take a year to figure out, and many never do. You get it.

      Now just add this to it and you've got all the components for reliably repeatable success:

      Keyword research = ranking possibilties. Good keyword research = more realistic ranking possibilities.

      Backlinking campaign = ranking growth. Sustained, diverse, quality backlinking campaign = faster, higher ranking.

      Flesh it out with about 10,000 words of filler, and you've got a great WSO.

      Mark
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    • Profile picture of the author XFactor
      Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post


      More content = More market reach. Good Content = Better ranking and conversion. It is that simple.
      Yes, keeping this business as simple as possible is the best approach.

      And never try to make your sites small on purpose. Start out with a few
      pages and schedule your time to add a page per week if possible.

      Of course the more sites you have, the harder it is to do this, but
      there is never a perfect plan that unfolds as expected.

      - John
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    Success!!!

    I earned my first dollar. I was feeling hopeless but got it:

    Clicks Page CTR Page eCPM [?] Earnings
    AdSense for Content top channels 45 4 8.89% $28.35 $1.28

    Next Goal: Aim to reach $4.

    Its an uphill battle one dollar at a time.
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    • Profile picture of the author jplanigan
      Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

      Success!!!

      I earned my first dollar. I was feeling hopeless but got it:

      Clicks Page CTR Page eCPM [?] Earnings
      AdSense for Content top channels 45 4 8.89% $28.35 $1.28

      Next Goal: Aim to reach $4.

      Its an uphill battle one dollar at a time.
      I knew $1 was too low. Way to go man, congrats!

      Patrick
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      • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
        Keyword Analysis Technique

        Coming up with a niche is a hard thing to. Looking at the vast majority of tools online, I become even more confused. Also, most tools online are built for windows platform and not apple (so I can't even purchase them).

        I do my keyword research the old school way, plain ol time consuming google game.

        Note: This is based on my experience and results. Yours might vary.

        How do I determine keyword competition?

        One word: inanchor. I read about inanchor back in 2003 on some SEO forum. It determines how many websites are using your keyword as an anchor tag. Lets think this out. Every link carries a value. The link has greater SEO value if it has your keyword as the anchor text. Hence if a lot of websites have the same anchor text then you know that market is hard to compete in.

        One website had inanchor:"keyword" return 50K results. I thought this was very little. I learnt, the hardway, that this is quiet competitive. To get me on the first page it took me 6 months and a lot of hard SEO.

        On the other hand, inanchor:"keyword" for another website returned only 8 results. So I optimized for that keyword and one pr4 backlink. I was on page 1 within the first week. Insane!!!

        What do the results really mean?

        Taking the above method in context, sometimes the numbers do lie. For example run a the query inanchor:"keyword". View all the results (top 10 listings). Analyze the top results:

        1) How many backlinks does that page have?
        2) What is the pagerank of that page?
        3) Is it the main domain or subpage?

        I have realized that if the SERP have subpages with low pr and no backlinks, then that keyword is easily to rank high for. I placed this to test with my 3rd site and voila it worked. It took me 1 month but it got there with minimal backlink effort.


        Now these are my results and could vary for yourself. I hope this has helped you guys that are reading this. Remember TRY THIS FOR YOUR SELF (Like the bill-nye experiments).
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        • Profile picture of the author JMartin
          Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

          [B][COLOR="Blue"]Also, most tools online are built for windows platform and not apple (so I can't even purchase them).

          I do my keyword research the old school way, plain ol time consuming google game.
          Yeah, non-Mac devs suck.

          Acutally, Market Samurai is built on Adobe Air (finally someone with a little tech know how), so it will run on your Mac.

          Not endorsing the product or anything, just pointing it out. I know there's a 2 week trial and it's $150.

          However, I honestly prefer the old way. Might be just because I'm so used to it. But I feel more flexible this way and I already have a feel for what to ignore, so the research process isn't too long--plus I enjoy it.

          Good luck on your success. I love AdSense.
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    • Profile picture of the author warforum
      Congrats Hamburglar!

      Keep up the good work.
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  • Profile picture of the author kumkum
    Congratulations on your reach of your first step...
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    I am searching through yahoo answers to find out what makes my market tick.

    I have just created one new article wohoo! A total of 2 articles on my website.

    My adsense for today is $.16

    I also am developing another niche website related to travel. It is a bit competitive but with good content I can become dominating.

    I have outsourced the articles approx about 20. I have set up 10 categories and aim to get at least 60 articles by the end of the month.
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  • Profile picture of the author masterbis
    Thank you guys. I have never profoundly inspired by any discussion in the forum, like Iam in here. I feel that I am so lucky to find this place. And in particular, I like to thanks Hamburglar for posting his journal to Adsense success, I hope all the best for you. I've been wanting to do the same path myself. Ideas loaded my head, but no single real step taken. About couple days ago, I found some very interesting fact. I was googling using one of my niche keyword, and I stunned by the fact that no.1 website is still using .blogspot.com as its domain name. I went into research for this blog, and found out that, nothing really special had been taken, except that he had hanging around for more than 2 years, and more than 20,000 website linkback to his.

    I realized that time, I must do something -now or never-, coz this one is so easy to follow. No need my own hosting, no need domain. Just stick with blogspot and its monetize tab. So i started to pitch several domain name in blogspot. And I plan to make more in other different niche (to make sure, nobody gotten it 1st). Now all i need to do is to write the content, and make some link building effort all together.

    Inspired more by Hamburglar' journal, I think, my baby step will start today. If only, I wish, I have faster internet connection.
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    • Originally Posted by masterbis View Post

      Thank you guys. I have never profoundly inspired by any discussion in the forum, like Iam in here. I feel that I am so lucky to find this place. And in particular, I like to thanks Hamburglar for posting his journal to Adsense success, I hope all the best for you. I've been wanting to do the same path myself. Ideas loaded my head, but no single real step taken. About couple days ago, I found some very interesting fact. I was googling using one of my niche keyword, and I stunned by the fact that no.1 website is still using .blogspot.com as its domain name. I went into research for this blog, and found out that, nothing really special had been taken, except that he had hanging around for more than 2 years, and more than 20,000 website linkback to his.

      I realized that time, I must do something -now or never-, coz this one is so easy to follow. No need my own hosting, no need domain. Just stick with blogspot and its monetize tab. So i started to pitch several domain name in blogspot. And I plan to make more in other different niche (to make sure, nobody gotten it 1st). Now all i need to do is to write the content, and make some link building effort all together.

      Inspired more by Hamburglar' journal, I think, my baby step will start today. If only, I wish, I have faster internet connection.
      Welcome to the Warrior Forum! You've got *exactly* the right attitude and realistic enthusiasm. Read through the forum, ask questions, take baby steps, read some more, ask some more, and you'll find you're on your own road to success!

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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    I have been very sick as of late, so there are no updates except that my current site has earned me $2.68 so far this month. Past the 50% goal to $4.

    The only thing is that my conversion rate is sitting at 4% or lower. Gotta find ways to increase that.
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    I finally feel better, after one week in lying around in bed.

    My sites are up and getting a lot of traffic but no conversion into clicks so far.

    Account is sitting at $2.68 this month. Bahumbug. Time to pump out more juicy content.
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    • Profile picture of the author HCLee
      Good luck on your adsense challenge and I'm very sure you will succeed. I could see you are very determined and that means a lot. Most of the time, people procrastinate too much and never take action. You did!
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    Update:

    I have reached my goal of $4!! Yay! I am actually $5.16 something. This is exciting. I am $5 richer yay!

    The key concept to making this prosper is having content. Moreover just not any content, having content that provides VALUE to the end user. That is what ultimately people want.

    Just got my 20 articles for my other niche and its now time to put them to good use.

    I am just not too sure about bluesense, comes of too spammy. I will have to look for other WP themes.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rhett
    Congrats! I too am about to launch my own Adsense campaign, and was also considering using Wordpress as the CMS instead of static html.

    Be sure to let us know if you find a better layout or template! If I find one that converts well I'll be sure to pass it on.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rhett
    Back again; I was recommended (by a fellow Warrior) this free layout for Wordpress; it's supposedly based off of a recent "heat map" study done by Google for their Adsense.

    Adsense and Ads Ready WordPress Theme - HeatMap Theme
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    Time to amp my goals:

    I wanna aim for the $10 mark by the end of this month. I am half way there.
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    I just downloaded the Heatmap theme, perhaps a better choice, we will see. Wish you lots of luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    I greatly appreciate all the above posters sending me their support.

    I also cannot believe internetmarketer, Xfactor and Steve Crooks followed this thread.

    Definitely means a lot.
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    In the past 2 weeks, I have gone from excited to calm to dead. Dead in the sense of trying to push through the downtimes.

    I have gotten around $6 now in my adsense and am working towards more. I bought MNF and started 3 more sites to play around with.

    I am now facing what the other 98% IM's get stuck in. (Fear, procrastination etc...) On one end, deep down inside I feel I can do this. But when I see slow results I get dejected from moving forward. The risk of failing or I would like to call fear of failing. I see this everywhere and with everyone. Some people on this forum can admit to this bravely and some cannot. The point is that fear of failing does exist. Failing in the measurement of monetary value. The dreams we get sold about auto-pilot money making etc...

    Here's the catch to get through this. JUST PUSH THROUGH. You will fail. Its part of life. But no matter what you have to keep going. Anything I have done has never panned out the way it should. But in hindsight, I needed to go through them to learn a better way. Yea yea, I know you think this is all jazzed up and what not, but trust me on this. You just have to push through it.

    I am in the midst of my low state right now. Nothing is working, trying to make something out of nothing, staying positive and burning out. It happens.
    Deep down I know this will work, I just have to be patience. Things always balance out.

    So I hope this post gives you some insight on what you will face. Nothing is done within a day, watch any Tony Robbins video and you will see that things take time. Heck it took him 10 years I think or so.

    My friends don't let the fear control you, I hope this post helps you push through your fears as it is mine.

    Regards.
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    • Profile picture of the author latinoman231982
      Great Thread Hamburglar

      I too have posted my success so far on this forum, and i too felt times when I felt i was fighting a losing battle. But each day, pennies turned into more pennies, then a dollar into dollars.

      Now im inbetween 32-40 dollars daily, in a period of 2 months, and just by reading what you have posted in this thread I know you will make something of this. And that goes for anyone, doing anything. Stick at it, and you will get there.FACT.

      Good luck buddy, i see you on the other side
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      • Profile picture of the author XFactor
        Originally Posted by latinoman231982 View Post

        Great Thread Hamburglar

        I too have posted my success so far on this forum, and i too felt times when I felt i was fighting a losing battle. But each day, pennies turned into more pennies, then a dollar into dollars.

        Now im inbetween 32-40 dollars daily, in a period of 2 months, and just by reading what you have posted in this thread I know you will make something of this. And that goes for anyone, doing anything. Stick at it, and you will get there.FACT.

        Good luck buddy, i see you on the other side
        I would like to add 2 things:

        1) Look at every site you make as nothing but SEEDS. These seeds
        take time, caring, and food to grow. Some seeds will sprout early,
        some late, others not at all. Some will die, and the few that thrive
        are the ones that will pay your bills.

        2) And second, when my forum is up soon I will have sections for
        these types of threads so a large group of you who are at the same
        level can build camaraderie and motivate each other.

        Plus a $10/day section, $20/day section, etc.

        - John
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        • Profile picture of the author d101
          Originally Posted by XFactor View Post

          ... when my forum is up soon ... a large group of you ... can build camaraderie and motivate each other...
          ... sounds great, John
          looking forward to it
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        • Profile picture of the author lselvon
          I actually built an adsense niche network of sites of up to 350 in my last project. As the sites settled with backlinking, the earnings eventually grew along with it. Some pointers for you is watch out for content duplication while doing backlinking. 3000 searches a month is an OK niche to tackle as a starting point. Read google guidelines to make sure they won't send you a nasty email after that you are not following the rules. Happened to me twice. Good luck with your task.
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        • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
          Originally Posted by XFactor View Post

          I would like to add 2 things:

          1) Look at every site you make as nothing but SEEDS. These seeds
          take time, caring, and food to grow. Some seeds will sprout early,
          some late, others not at all. Some will die, and the few that thrive
          are the ones that will pay your bills.

          2) And second, when my forum is up soon I will have sections for
          these types of threads so a large group of you who are at the same
          level can build camaraderie and motivate each other.

          Plus a $10/day section, $20/day section, etc.

          - John

          Nice advice, he needs the combination of time and effort to profit from this business.
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          • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
            These sites are definitely like Seeds,

            I hope that everyone is having good success. As mentioned I have changed my plan from low CPC to high paying CPC.

            I have found some great keywords but the search volume is very little.

            There is one that has CPC of $13 but search volume is only 360.

            It is very hard to find high CPC and niche sites. I know my future success will lie in this area because I will find quality keywords rather than work of quantity as I did in the past.

            Lets keep going.
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        • Profile picture of the author achong
          Today, it harder and harder getting $ from adsense. There, maybe, are so many publishers while power to buy from people in most countries are low.
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        • Profile picture of the author stevenjotello
          I'll follow your example and hope to get and I know that you can easily reach. Actaully you putin your expectations low. You could have at least $ 3.00 per month, then switch. So I will be more active in fullfuling dream.
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        • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
          Originally Posted by Johnn View Post

          hi John,
          Please help me if there is a good way to make traffic to my site to get a lot of clicks per day. If u know any good idea without google adsense do tell me plz as lot of my friends have beed depressed using google adsense. I am not familiar to any other better solution for earning more bucks per click. Please help me

          Regards.
          Hey,

          I am a bit confused in regards to your questions. Do you want to get more traffic for your website or the CTR?


          A high converting template is the bluesense wordpress design. It seems to be converting really well for me.

          How many visitors do you have coming to your site?
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    • Profile picture of the author Tammy1
      Hamburglar,

      I have a suggestion for you to try if you wish along the lines of goal setting. I am a professional weight loss coach in the real world and I help clients set goals that keep them moving. One of the most important things is that they set goals that they can control. So, my clients don't set goals of "I'm going to lose X lbs. by..." because they really can't control that. What happens if they don't? They get discouraged and it can slow them down or worse.

      I also do business coaching, and after having such great success with eliminating that type of goal with my weight loss clients, I decided to incorporate the principle into my business coaching. Here is how it works in case you want to give it some thought:

      It's great to set a dollar amount that you are looking forward to, but to set it as your goal - in other words what keeps you moving, can be be defeating if you don't reach it. Instead - set behavioral goals. These you CAN control. For example, how much time you spend, how many new posts, pages, sites, etc. Keep a written list of your behavior goals along with a log of how well you are doing.

      Then, put the dollar figures, the ones you previously had as goals, instead on a "dreamboard" - special landmarks you want to reach. So, there is no penalty for not reaching the dollar by a certain day - instead there is only a good feeling when you do reach them.

      It's great to know you are after a certain amount, be it pounds lost or dollars gained - but for years I've seen how setting goals that you can control keep you motivated longer because your focus is positive and motivating.

      If you don't want to try it, of course that's fine too, I just wanted to offer an alternative that might keep your energy up. Best of luck to you!!
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      • Profile picture of the author clickbump
        Originally Posted by Tammy1 View Post

        Hamburglar,

        I have a suggestion for you to try if you wish along the lines of goal setting. I am a professional weight loss coach in the real world and I help clients set goals that keep them moving. One of the most important things is that they set goals that they can control. So, my clients don't set goals of "I'm going to lose X lbs. by..." because they really can't control that. What happens if they don't? They get discouraged and it can slow them down or worse.
        Awesome post Tammy!

        Another thing that I believe is critical, particularly in the niche research phase, is to get (and stay) inspired. I find that my thoughts and actions are much more prosperous when I'm working from a position of power and strength rather than not.

        There are tons of things that make one inspired and we are all different in that regard.

        I get inspired by music. It moves me. So when that happens, I can get into an indescribable zone where things just start to open up and skies are bluer and my appreciation and receptivity to things around me are much clearer and vibrant - my focus becomes laserlike.

        I start to notice things I would otherwise be blind to, my subconcious becomes my concious. I've found some incredible niches and project ideas this way. And even on days when things didn't work out as well as I'd prefer, I'm still better for the time.

        I thought I would share these incredibly poignant and simple lyrics which sum up the feeling better than my words could do...

        So damn easy to say that life's so hard
        Everybody's got their share of battle scars
        As for me, I'd like to thank my lucky stars that I'm alive and well...

        It'd be easy to add up all the pain
        And all the dreams you sat and watched go up in flames
        Dwell on the wreckage as it smolders in the rain
        But not me...I'm alive

        And today you know that's good enough for me
        Breathin' in and out's a blessing can't you see
        Today's the first day of the rest of my life and I'm alive
        And well...I'm alive and well


        Stars are dancin' on the water here tonight
        It's good for the soul and there's not a soul in sight
        This boat has caught its wind and brought me back to life now I'm alive and well


        -I'm alive < YouTube (Kenny Chesney/Dave Matthews)
        "This boat has caught its wind and brought me back to life now I'm alive and well"

        Hard to say those words without being anything but inspired...
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  • Profile picture of the author Wednesday
    "I have an informative niche that has at least 3000 search's a month. "

    Just a quick question... How do you get the data to make these determinations? I am an 'ideal generator' type. I got involved with a nudge from FK and have sat down and drawn up about 10 ideas that I think have potential... I need a little advice in the market research front.
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    • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
      Originally Posted by Wednesday View Post

      "I have an informative niche that has at least 3000 search's a month. "

      Just a quick question... How do you get the data to make these determinations? I am an 'ideal generator' type. I got involved with a nudge from FK and have sat down and drawn up about 10 ideas that I think have potential... I need a little advice in the market research front.
      The data IMO is from most free keyword tools. The top keyword tool is the google adwords tool.

      https://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal

      Now when you search a phrase, ensure that you have selected sorting by either exact or phrase. This allows you to guestimate how well the demand is in that market.

      Others use wordtracker, overture etc... but I stick to google keywords. Now remember that any of these numbers that result from these tools MUST BE TAKEN WITH A GRAIN OF SALT. Just because there is a high search volume does not necessarily mean more clicks for you.

      So for this look at the top 10 websites on the first page of google results.
      1) How is their page rank?
      2) How many links do those pages have?
      3) Are they strong or weak backlinks (based on PR) ?

      Another cool tool I use (free ofcourse) is keywordspy(keywordspy.com). This tools enables you to digress what keywords are profitable for companies that use PPC. (Pay per click i.e. paying to rank high)

      Hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    I am going to bounce back.

    The recent purchase of MNF has got my mind going in all directions. I am expanding my network of sites from 2 to 5 in the coming weeks. I have 2 active sites and working on a 3rd one.

    However, I am a bit confused as to how to use and understand MNF. I guess this will be trial and error ways. I have been reading threads and have come to a basic understanding on how to determine an amazing keyword.

    Hope this works out. Time to keep pushing forward.
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  • Profile picture of the author Wednesday
    Thanks Burg!

    Looking for the TY button...?!?!
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    I got site #3 launched.

    I have bought 3 backlinks and submitted the paged to digg. I am in the process of working on site #4. Site #5 will be my test from Xfactors book, I will purchase it this weekend.

    I am avging about $.5 a day. I am on the right track but I have to build more and higher ranking sites. So far all traffic is coming from site, which I feel uneasy about.

    Two most important element I have learnt.

    1) Keyword research is crucial. Prior to MNF I chose keywords which I thought were easy to rank high in, well I guess I was proven wrong. I am waiting for the one month mark to see how well the sites do.

    2) Tracking. I have kept no track of each project. So tomorrow morning I am going to write down exactly what made me do those niches and what results I get.

    Hope this helps others.
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  • Profile picture of the author kamlajoshi
    hello
    I have just joined this forum. Quite new to online earning/adsense . trying to earn since last year my account just reached 8$. quite frustrated .can anyone help me step by step .

    will be greatful
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    here's a list of informations you want to know ...guidelines and utilities

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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    Hey Kamlajoshi,

    Here are some other great resources.
    XFactor's (John):
    http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...s-learned.html

    Internetmarketer99's (Mark):
    http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...w-adsense.html

    Another you might want a look at is Steve Crook's:
    http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...hs-1-blog.html

    So I am excited. I earned another $1 today. I am at $8 this month.

    Now I just have to get my other 2 sites to rank high and I will start developing my hunch for adsense sites.

    This is exciting.
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    That's great Hamburglar. Just keep building.
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    Goal #2 reached. I have officially earned $10 this month from Google Adsense.

    This is amazing. At first I started with $1 then moved my way up. My perspective has changed on adsense sites, I thought they were just fluff. Well most of them are, that I see anyways because they do not provide unique valuable content. For any adsense site to work, I am learning that I have write write write and write some more. I use to hate writing but now I actually like it.

    Now to revamp my goals.

    Next goal: $15.

    If anyone has questions or requires help, feel free to post them.
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

      Goal #2 reached. I have officially earned $10 this month from Google Adsense.

      This is amazing. At first I started with $1 then moved my way up. My perspective has changed on adsense sites, I thought they were just fluff. Well most of them are, that I see anyways because they do not provide unique valuable content. For any adsense site to work, I am learning that I have write write write and write some more. I use to hate writing but now I actually like it.

      Now to revamp my goals.

      Next goal: $15.

      If anyone has questions or requires help, feel free to post them.
      Nice going , ham ! I remember over a year ago in August 2008 I was excited when I broke $7 for the month. And in September this year I hit $264 !!

      So just be patient and you will get there !!
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  • Profile picture of the author Kael41
    As i've said all along, the time is now to make money with adsense. It's almost TO easy once you've done the keyword research. Congrats Hamburglar!
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  • Profile picture of the author Sebulba
    I have a quick question.

    I am using the great XFactor Adsense method, started Labor day, doing one site a week. Seems to be working.

    I am looking at a niche Keyword phrase. .net .com are taken, but it looks like a great phrase. .com is parked, .net i pathetic site, nothing over PR 2 on page 1. what do you think about .biz, .us domains?

    Thanks a bunch all

    Seb
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    Hey,

    I am also using Xfactors course now. I personally do not like using .biz or .us rather .net or .com

    Have you looked at .org?
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    • Profile picture of the author Sebulba
      Thanks for your input Hamburglar. I guess I kinda like .us and .biz. Why do you like .net and of course I am asking cuz the .com is not available for a great phrase.

      Seb
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      • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
        Originally Posted by Sebulba View Post

        Thanks for your input Hamburglar. I guess I kinda like .us and .biz. Why do you like .net and of course I am asking cuz the .com is not available for a great phrase.

        Seb
        I guess the reason is because .biz and .us sound to fluffy. I have always been used to the .com,.net,.org that their brand-ability are engrained in my head.

        I could definitely be wrong on this because I have no way to proving otherwise.

        I feel good knowing that you are succeeding as well. $1 at a time. We will get their brother.
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        • Profile picture of the author Sebulba
          Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

          I guess the reason is because .biz and .us sound to fluffy. I have always been used to the .com,.net,.org that their brand-ability are engrained in my head.

          I could definitely be wrong on this because I have no way to proving otherwise.

          I feel good knowing that you are succeeding as well. $1 at a time. We will get their brother.

          Thanks for your input, it would be easy if the .com's were all available, but they aren't

          Buck at a time, rinse and repeat.

          Seb
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  • Profile picture of the author kevinpotts
    What a great to push yourself toward the road of success....

    One tip:

    Find subjects about the new ways people are using to create traffic to their websites. May be you'll find new tips that are useful.

    Kevin
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    I have about 5 site brewing in google.

    2 of them are pre MNF, one is with MNF and the remaining 2 are using Xfactors guidance.

    Only 2 sites of the above have broken the google SERP in the 100's. No where near the top but I hope it will change.

    An important element of ranking high in google is backlinks. Not just any backlinks but quality backlinks. I personally have only known to buy backlinks from TLA or digitalpoint. Coming on this forum I have been exposed to article marketing, squidoo, and other a billion methods that I am overwhelmed.

    I honestly have no idea how to build good backlinks. I tried Angela's method but I honestly do not see the value in it. The websites they provide do have HIGH PR but that is only for the main page. Not the page where your link is displayed. This is just my opinion. I tried Angela's and I think its no value for me. Could be proven otherwise.

    There are so many services and methods that one could get lost. So I am going to just concentrate on what I know and write great content.

    This a lot more hard work than someone would first assume. Its a good kind of hard work. No hard work = No success.

    I am for now going to wait and see the google dance for these sites because I want to see some form of SERP jump around before I start building new sites. This way I can test the numbers from MNF and link building strategies employed.

    But most importantly, I want to build my GUT feeling on SEO. I thought I knew what it was but definitely this form has shaken that up
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  • You've got exactly the right idea. AdSense is a slow build any way you cut it, but it's great once you get it going. If you double every two months, you'll be getting a check every month in no time.
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    • Profile picture of the author HCLee
      I am following your progress very closely and sharing with you all the excitement. I too have purchased Xfactor's ebook, MNF and xsite pro and I now have 2 micro niche websites to my credit. The first is on Google #1 position and yes I'm getting clicks, while the second site is new and awaiting to be indexed. Good luck.
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      • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
        Originally Posted by HCLee View Post

        I am following your progress very closely and sharing with you all the excitement. I too have purchased Xfactor's ebook, MNF and xsite pro and I now have 2 micro niche websites to my credit. The first is on Google #1 position and yes I'm getting clicks, while the second site is new and awaiting to be indexed. Good luck.
        Wow,

        That is excellent.

        I am still waiting for my ranks to pull through. I Just started this in September so I am waiting mid October to see rankings.

        I think I have to work on a better backlink building strategy.
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  • Profile picture of the author tntrader
    Hey Hamburglar,

    Congrats on your success so far. I assume you're using a similar template to X-Factor. If not, I highly recommend that you do as increase in CTR could easily be the difference between $1 per day and $5 or $10 per day.

    Chris
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    • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
      Originally Posted by tntrader View Post

      Hey Hamburglar,

      Congrats on your success so far. I assume you're using a similar template to X-Factor. If not, I highly recommend that you do as increase in CTR could easily be the difference between $1 per day and $5 or $10 per day.

      Chris

      I am using his template layout. Thus far, I have to conquer ranking high in google. That is what my patience is running slow on or getting me really anxious. Sorta like waiting in the dark to see how well it does.

      I guess I have to occupy myself with other items I can work on rather than on google rankings. But its so hard not to when its your only source.
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      • Profile picture of the author nettech
        Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

        I am using his template layout. Thus far, I have to conquer ranking high in google. That is what my patience is running slow on or getting me really anxious. Sorta like waiting in the dark to see how well it does.

        I guess I have to occupy myself with other items I can work on rather than on google rankings. But its so hard not to when its your only source.
        Hey Hamburglar,

        Love the thread, its an excellent read, if you;re struggling with your SERPS then it may be worth you revisiting some of the initial keyword research you did as the KWs may be too competitive. If thats the case then you could just use MNF, find some gems and just integrate them into the pre MNF sites that are not ranking. I'm assuming here that the pre MNF sites are not ranking.

        Are you following John's (XFactor) recommended numbers?

        Good luck
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        • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
          Yes,

          Now I am following John's number.

          The 2 PRE MNF/Xfactor sites rank as follows:

          Site 1: 56
          Site 2: 67

          This is after 2 weeks or so of getting some backlinks.

          Now the 2 sites with MNF and Xfactor are only a week old and started to submit them to social bookmarking early last week. So I am expecting them to get indexed and rank somewhere with in the next 2 weeks.

          My expectations are a bit out of whack I guess, I thought they would rank faster and higher.

          The hunt for good niche's never end eh. hehhe

          Originally Posted by nettech View Post

          Hey Hamburglar,

          Love the thread, its an excellent read, if you;re struggling with your SERPS then it may be worth you revisiting some of the initial keyword research you did as the KWs may be too competitive. If thats the case then you could just use MNF, find some gems and just integrate them into the pre MNF sites that are not ranking. I'm assuming here that the pre MNF sites are not ranking.

          Are you following John's (XFactor) recommended numbers?

          Good luck
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          • Profile picture of the author nettech
            Tell me about it, I've been stuck on MNF ever since Ive bought it. Just established about 12 niches so hopefully can make a start on these.

            We're alike, I like to aim high as well. Those numbers arent bad, you just need a lot more backlinking thats all. I also use Bookmarking Demon for my social bookmarking it does save a lot of time.

            Good luck with it mate!

            Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

            Yes,

            Now I am following John's number.

            The 2 PRE MNF/Xfactor sites rank as follows:

            Site 1: 56
            Site 2: 67

            This is after 2 weeks or so of getting some backlinks.

            Now the 2 sites with MNF and Xfactor are only a week old and started to submit them to social bookmarking early last week. So I am expecting them to get indexed and rank somewhere with in the next 2 weeks.

            My expectations are a bit out of whack I guess, I thought they would rank faster and higher.

            The hunt for good niche's never end eh. hehhe
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            • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
              Originally Posted by nettech View Post

              Tell me about it, I've been stuck on MNF ever since Ive bought it. Just established about 12 niches so hopefully can make a start on these.

              We're alike, I like to aim high as well. Those numbers arent bad, you just need a lot more backlinking thats all. I also use Bookmarking Demon for my social bookmarking it does save a lot of time.

              Good luck with it mate!
              The key to ranking high is getting great backlinks. By great I mean relevant and high quality.

              I also have got some bad keywords from MNF but its all part of the learning curve. Nothing will be easy. It takes time to get used to MNF and get a click for keyword ideas.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richnana
      Went to your blog. I agree SEO ebooks and etc are just that. The problem is even when the product is not as promised. you have to stay quiet cause maybe they are somebody's friend. good post
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  • Profile picture of the author 3vmarketing
    Way to go Hamburglar.....
    Just keep track your game plan, it a good start...
    When your there lets us know!
    Goodluck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Richnana
    I almost never click on this discussion group.. But I am glad I did today. There are some free resources that are available to help you on your way to Adsense success.

    Scott Standke? offers a niche a day and includes key word lists that you can use. It is a free service with some niches that are quite unique.

    Also Daily Niche Idea is another site that gives you free complet niches with clickbank products and articles, header, etc. Of course this info goes to her entire list each day..But you would be surprised at how many people don't act on their dreams.

    Just some food for thought. There are a lot of Warriors who also offer Niches and ideas for fre..

    I am so inspired by the words in this thread. Great determination produces Great Result... Just keep at it. Success is at the end of the road.
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    • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
      Originally Posted by nomanbd View Post

      I created a blog of adult material. and I add my adsense account. But after long time my current adsense balance is 1.91$.
      So I need some suggestion that what is the best category for making adsense money.
      A lot of members keep asking the questions about Niche. You will not find one nor will anyone tell you here. You just have to do due diligence and research.

      In regards to ideas, there are tons. Just look at your own life and slice up all the products you buy.

      Here is an example I will give you:

      I buy hand cream.

      Also Richnana posted some great ideas on how to find good Niche's.
      There are 100000's of different types of cream.

      I like coconut butter cream.

      That is a very specific niche.

      All you have to do is put that in the google keyword tool and see if its worth your while.

      It sounds simple because it is. Keep it simple and you will prosper.
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      Originally Posted by nomanbd View Post

      I created a blog of adult material. and I add my adsense account. But after long time my current adsense balance is 1.91$.
      So I need some suggestion that what is the best category for making adsense money.
      FYI, i don't think adsense is allowed on adult pages
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    So site #3 that was MNF and Xfactor is on the first page. Position #7.

    Now I will monitor the results from this site and see the true value of the keyword. Should be interesting to see the results.
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  • Profile picture of the author nettech
    With regards to finding niches, just look around you. If you're sitting in your living room or kitchen theres potentially lost of niches you can target. Just type something that you see arounf you in G AdWords tool or MNF and just take it from there. Some of them may be great niches, some of them may not but thats how you will find something.

    Scott Standke (Niche A Day) service is pretty good as he gives you ideas but if thousands of people are getting his emails then surely the market will get saturated, no? Its still a pretty good starting point to get your creative juices going.

    Good luck....now take action!
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    Some great progress.

    Site #3 from Xfactor's course has already gotten searched and clicked on. The rate for yesterday was exactly 33% just as he describes in his book. Now this is not a proper test because its only with one day of data.

    site #4 just got indexed and is at position #70. It will rise during the week.

    Site #1 and site #2 are duds. I was working on my hunches about the keyword and competition and definitely missed the mark. This was prior to MNF and XFactor.

    Very exciting results.
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  • Profile picture of the author arth
    great post! Happy to see the progress for Hamburglar, really inspires me a lot.

    I would like to know two questions:

    1. how do you get the number of backlinks to a site? Is it also included in the SEO Plugin for Firefox?

    2. How long will it normally take for google to index a new website in your 5 sites?

    Thanks in advance.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jojane
      Thanks for posting your efforts hamburglar, and everyone else thats joining in. I've been watching this thread since its outset, so its time i make myself accountable and join in. i've been following along and am up to site number 3. Like yourself, my first 2 were total duds. Not sure what went wrong but somehow i got the keyword research part all wrong. The numbers i recorded for my keywords originally were excellent, built the sites, submitted my articles, but nothing. So checked the competition again, and it was way out of my league! Don't know how i could have got it so wrong! Never mind, a learning curve.

      Just as a matter of interest, how are you all getting around brand names? my site number 2 only lasted a day or two of activity before i got a letter requesting me to hand over the site! good thing i hadn't spent too much time on it.

      Excited to hear how your third site is going hamburglar! here's hoping my number 3 does as well.
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    • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
      Originally Posted by arth View Post

      great post! Happy to see the progress for Hamburglar, really inspires me a lot.

      I would like to know two questions:

      1. how do you get the number of backlinks to a site? Is it also included in the SEO Plugin for Firefox?

      2. How long will it normally take for google to index a new website in your 5 sites?

      Thanks in advance.
      Hey,

      For your answers, I normally run the link:sitename.com function that is provided by google in their search bar. I also use SEO quake to determine PR. I have not divested too much into yahoo backlink checker at all but it does provide insight on the link structure of a lot of websites.

      2) This is dependent on a) backlinks and b) competition. If you get grat backlinks to your site then it could take up to a week for the website to get indexed. Competition is another factor, well hmmm let me rethink this. I think it does play a role but not for indexing. So I take that statement back.

      However you should:
      1) Launch the site.
      2) Digg the pages
      3) Create and submit to google sitemaps asap.

      Hope this helps.
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    • Profile picture of the author ronb107
      I've read XFactor's book several times, and have created a micro niche with 5 keywords and pages, plus I am writing all the articles for submission.

      I am now waiting to get Google's ok on the AdSense account.

      Just wondering: does Yahoo have a similar adsense program? Is it APT? And, is it any good?

      I have tried to join, but the webpage does not display.

      Also, are there other worthwhile adsense programs available from Google competitors?

      Thanks so much,
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    Just launched another site.

    It has 5 words as the keywords and has LSV exact of 6000. I hope it ranks well once it gets indexed.

    Time to build some backlinks.!
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  • Profile picture of the author arth
    Thank you hamburglar for your answers, now i know how to count the links of a specific site.

    And another quick one. how many backlinks in the serps would you consider too much competition and let the keyword go?

    Thanks.
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    • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
      Originally Posted by arth View Post

      Thank you hamburglar for your answers, now i know how to count the links of a specific site.

      And another quick one. how many backlinks in the serps would you consider too much competition and let the keyword go?

      Thanks.

      You never really know. I have outranked sites that have had 150 links. Or some sites that have 20 links and I cannot rank above them.

      It is all about quality backlinks. If they have quality then it might be hard to rank high.

      Hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    I just found another site that is in my niche and has the same keyword I am going for.

    I wrote the content and already did the SEO and I just saw the other site. I am definitely not thrilled about this and feel bad. I want to take my site down out of respect but I have invested a lot of time into it. I guess we will see who goes to the top.

    In the same sense I have found 10000 similar adsense sites. Not exactly with xfactors theme but other stuff. I just have to change my layout of the site and I will rock the SEO.

    Gotta keep moving.
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      I think many of you Over analyze this stuff. You worry about if this Niche is too competetive, whether this Site has too many backlinks to compete against etc..etc..

      Pick a Niche that has a lot of Searches and a good CPC and just work it for the Long Term in a relentless and persistent way.

      I dont give a rats behind if it is 'Weight Loss'....If you Post 3 Articles a week in it for 5 years you better be damn straight you are going to make some serious money eventually with some good backlinking strategy. The more competition the better in the long run.

      THINK LONG TERM with this stuff and you will kick a$$ !!
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      • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
        Originally Posted by discrat View Post

        I think many of you Over analyze this stuff. You worry about if this Niche is too competetive, whether this Site has too many backlinks to compete against etc..etc..

        Pick a Niche that has a lot of Searches and a good CPC and just work it for the Long Term in a relentless and persistent way.

        I dont give a rats behind if it is 'Weight Loss'....If you Post 3 Articles a week in it for 5 years you better be damn straight you are going to make some serious money eventually with some good backlinking strategy. The more competition the better in the long run.

        THINK LONG TERM with this stuff and you will kick a$$ !!
        I think you nailed it on the head man. My perspective has changed from $x in 3 months to long term. **** I have the domain for one year = 365 days = 24 hours a day each. That means I have no choice but to think long term and work at it.

        A lot of PM' I have gotten are all about earning cash ASAP and why in one week etc... One message I always respond is with: PATIENCE.

        Just keep it at it.
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  • Profile picture of the author JMartin
    I found 2 sites this morning using John's template for 2 KWPs I want to target. This makes me excited (not sad), because I know a 1st page listing is coming for me.

    Kind of funny how some of us gravitate towards certain items.
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    • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
      Originally Posted by JMartin View Post

      I found 2 sites this morning using John's template for 2 KWPs I want to target. This makes me excited (not sad), because I know a 1st page listing is coming for me.

      Kind of funny how some of us gravitate towards certain items.
      Thanks man.

      Definitely going to push harder now.
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      • Profile picture of the author JMartin
        Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

        Thanks man.

        Definitely going to push harder now.
        Just keep at it.

        You'll have winners and losers.

        Since you're a long-term player, don't worry so much about the starter junk (indexed/ranking speed, etc). It really doesn't matter at all. Keep pressing on so that next year is better than this one and the year after better than the last one and so on.
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  • Profile picture of the author nettech
    With reagrds to people who want to make a quick buck, unless you have patience, don't expect much. Your loss is someone else's gain.

    Just a quick story I want to share with you all. I registered a domain just under a year ago, put a 500 word article and put up a rubbish looking adsense 468*60 banner there. In the last few days, it seems like this 1 page site has come alive, it has ABSOLUTELY no backlinks whatsoever and is ranking on Page 2 of Google Global and UK, this is a VERY competitive market and keyword, the only thing that it has is age and the fact that the keyword phrase is in the domain. Its getting a few clicks per day and earning me a few $$$s but the fact that it has come into the serps for a site with no backlinks is astounding!

    Now had I developed this (which I couldnt due to other sites being developed) I couldve made a killing. However, the moral of the story is patience is a virtue. Keep building today for tommorow, it will take time, but it will happen if you put the time in. Im not sure about John's (XFactor's) model, but my sites that are targetted (but not highly) targetted, tend to mature after about 10-12 months and this is when they show potential and rankings start to stable.

    Keep at it guys and the money will start to roll in.

    Good luck
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by nettech View Post

      With reagrds to people who want to make a quick buck, unless you have patience, don't expect much. Your loss is someone else's gain.

      Just a quick story I want to share with you all. I registered a domain just under a year ago, put a 500 word article and put up a rubbish looking adsense 468*60 banner there. In the last few days, it seems like this 1 page site has come alive, it has ABSOLUTELY no backlinks whatsoever and is ranking on Page 2 of Google Global and UK, this is a VERY competitive market and keyword, the only thing that it has is age and the fact that the keyword phrase is in the domain. Its getting a few clicks per day and earning me a few $$ but the fact that it has come into the serps for a site with no backlinks is astounding!

      Now had I developed this (which I couldnt due to other sites being developed) I couldve made a killing. However, the moral of the story is patience is a virtue. Keep building today for tommorow, it will take time, but it will happen if you put the time in. Im not sure about John's (XFactor's) model, but my sites that are targetted (but not highly) targetted, tend to mature after about 10-12 months and this is when they show potential and rankings start to stable.

      Keep at it guys and the money will start to roll in.

      Good luck

      Yes I know what you mean. It does seem to work that way. For me back in March it was almost to the exact week for two of my Domains to jump in the SERPs and start earning considerably after getting them one year before.

      PATIENCE and PERSITENCE. These cannot be overstated !!
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    hard work always pays off, just work hard.
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  • Profile picture of the author arth
    Thank you guys for your kind answers!
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  • Profile picture of the author nettech
    There are other programs out there and Ive never really bothered with them to be honest. Somehow I doub't they'll have the volume of advertisers that AdWords has and the CPC rates. I'm just thinking from an advertisers point of view as well, if I wanted to spend my budget, it would be on Google since I can get a lot more targetted traffic. However saaying that, I do remember that Overture/Yahoo did seem to convert better but the volume just wasn't there!
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    Man, this thread is so amazing.

    I LOVE LOVE LOVE THE POSITIVE VIBES HERE.

    Thank you from the bottom of my heart. Seriously. When I get down, I always come back here and read.

    I recently got dishearten due to seeing other people in my niche ( in their eyes I am in their niche hehehe) I feel really bad for overtaking them because they are trying to do the same as me. Man. But I have come so far. Very interesting feelings I get.

    But anywho, so far so good. Going to do a 500 directory submission on 5 of my sites soon. Hopefully that helps.
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      I made my first penny yesterday using xfactor method
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      • Profile picture of the author kingside
        About two and a half weeks in here, averaging about $3 a day. I'm probably getting a little ahead of myself in terms of sites. I launched 5 more this weekend (not indexed yet) putting my total at around 15. I'm going to hold off on new sites for now and just focus on building up my quality sites. My revenue only comes from 3-4 sites each day.

        There's no getting around it, this method is EXPENSIVE in the beginning--whether you're talking time or money. I outsource all my articles and even get them at a super cheap price, but the numbers so far aren't pretty. I'm talking strictly in terms of ROI of course.. the overall cost isn't that much, which is why I think this method is great for beginners.

        Lots of lessons learned so far. Probably the biggest is that there so many niches out there that it pays to be extremely selective. It's a lot of fun, but at this point I'm glad it's not my main source of revenue .
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    Some fellow member maybe have an experiment ?
    Is there any simple wordpress template similar to xfactor- xsitepro template.?
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  • Profile picture of the author arth
    Yeah, we should hold our pace. I remember John once said his 300 bucks/day came from his 30 or 40 sites, and he built those sites in the length of 6 month.

    That's about 5 sites each month, I really should hold my excitement and work on each site(not just register them.)haha.

    Cheers.
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    • Profile picture of the author nettech
      I know the feeling when you should be focussing on getting your sites live and submitting and writing articles but all of a sudden, the entrepreneur or the devil inside you just opens up Micro Niche Finder and starts to find other niches, MNF can be SOOOO addictive ,its very easy to get carried away. The one thing more than anything else in this business is to keep up the discipline.

      Originally Posted by arth View Post

      Yeah, we should hold our pace. I remember John once said his 300 bucks/day came from his 30 or 40 sites, and he built those sites in the length of 6 month.

      That's about 5 sites each month, I really should hold my excitement and work on each site(not just register them.)haha.

      Cheers.
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    I now have a pool of 4 sites from Xfactor. It is very hard to work on them when you are busy doing other jobs to pay the bills. But at the same time you must keep working at them.

    I got my plan laid out for tonight. Submit 1 article for each site.
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    great idea , most of the people think on earning big big amount from the starting , they dont yet have live websites and they dream of big money .. to start with 1 and 2 $ earnings is also a big task..
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  • Profile picture of the author nettech
    Hamburglar, how you getting on? Any news on your sites? I think you'll find that lots of us are intrigued with your thread!

    :-)
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    • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
      Originally Posted by nettech View Post

      Hamburglar, how you getting on? Any news on your sites? I think you'll find that lots of us are intrigued with your thread!

      :-)
      Hey,

      Ok so some update on my thread.

      First, life is insanely busy. I run my own business and that consumes my life. Spending time on the ad sense has been very limiting but I do one article a day. No matter how tired or dead I am. I do one article a day AT LEAST.

      Now I will discuss only my Xfactor sites. I had 7 in total. 3 were duds (Prior to MNF and Xfactor)

      So the top 4.

      #1: Man this site has ranked so well. I had the keywords in reverse order because the LSV for the reverse was really good. Now it ranks #1 in google.ca for the keyword in PROPER ORDER. Some good conclusions and testing here. In regards to Return. Maybe a $1.

      However the return on the site is very poor. However I am looking past that and just developing the sites. I figure I have it for a year and see how things progress.

      #2: This site was #62 then went back to #75 now back to #62. It is doing its dance daily. This site has a direct competitor who is also using xfactor. However, he has very poor links from link exchange directories etc.. Where as I am getting all one-way PR 4 - 6 links for my site. So I will see who out ranks who.

      Again: this is all testing to learn for my future sites.

      #3: This has 5 words for the domain. Its insane! I have not done backlinking like crazy for this as it is just brewing. Its still in the work.

      #4: Not indexed as it was launched on Saturday. So again building links.

      MY focus for the next month: Just build links to these 4 sites thats it!!
      Then next month launch 4-5 sites. Sometimes its soooooo easy to get caught up to make more more more more more while if you just concentrate on selected few, they might just get there.

      Returns: Very dissapointing this month. So far I am at $2.34. Not the best but hey, I am $2 richer *does not look at the cost/investment sheet*

      Nothing so far in terms of $$ BUT in the learning curve i have HUGE HUGE RETURNS. My SEO skills are MUCH SHARPER.

      So far so great.

      Sorry for not updating a lot, just tons of deadlines on my neck.

      How is everyone else going in their journey?
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  • Profile picture of the author nettech
    Thanks for the update, I appreciate that you had to take the time out to write all that.

    Like yourself I'm also busy with other things, I have other AdSense sites that do ok-ish so its quite tough doing Johns course. I launched a site the other day, and it still hasnt been indexed yet (although there was a previous install of WordPress on there which is showing up).

    Just added another page and about to submit to EZA and 2 to GoArticles. Im testing Johns method to the letter to see how effective it is. How long did it take you to develop your template?

    The only thing that I have changed slightly is that I'm making my About, Contact and Privacy Pages all nofollow so no PR (if it ever gets any) is passed onto these pages so it can be retained on the content pages, not sure if this will be beneficial but lets wait and see.

    Don't worry abotu the earnings, it'll happen, when you searched on MNF, did you carry out eh search for Google CA? Sorry I;m not questionning your intelligence but its something that can easily be overseen. Did you run an OCI on these keywords, I know its more affiliate marketing but it will still give you an insight into the buying power of the keyword. Are the ads that show up on the high ranking pages relevant? You need to try and see if you can maximise the site that is already ranking high as this shoudl be the site makign you money. Just give them time, you'll start making money.

    Well done for writing articles, just do it regularly and you'll see yoru work pay off.

    I'll let you kno whow I get on too.

    All the best
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    • Profile picture of the author ronb107
      Originally Posted by nettech View Post

      Did you run an OCI on these keywords, I know its more affiliate marketing but it will still give you an insight into the buying power of the keyword.

      Zaheer
      You may not have noticed, but OCI is not currently working. The problem lies with MSN taking two tries to get the results back.

      Apparently MSN is thwarting programs from accessing the data with long delays.
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    Appoloies for the typos, didnt get a chance to spell check that.... :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author WebFlip
    I think it's great to track progress like this. I set out many times to generate $100/day from one website then quickly realized the problems that involves! I found it much easier to set up 25 websites that make $2-$5 a day than 1 site making $100 a day due to the different traffic milestones you have to reach. I found it easier to get to the 200-500 hits a day range on many websites than the 20,000 hits a day range on one site.

    Nevertheless, great stuff, keep rocking and good luck!

    -Safe Travels!
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    • Profile picture of the author sarasayshi
      Originally Posted by WebFlip View Post

      I think it's great to track progress like this. I set out many times to generate $100/day from one website then quickly realized the problems that involves! I found it much easier to set up 25 websites that make $2-$5 a day than 1 site making $100 a day due to the different traffic milestones you have to reach. I found it easier to get to the 200-500 hits a day range on many websites than the 20,000 hits a day range on one site.

      Nevertheless, great stuff, keep rocking and good luck!

      -Safe Travels!
      I wholeheartedly agree. I can handle creating a bunch of websites and have a few among them that might be absolute duds versus taking a chance with 2-3 websites that may also be duds or only earn pennies a day.
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    I am proud of myself tonight.

    Wrote 2 articles.
    Submitted one to Goarticles and the other to buzzle.

    My account on ezine is frozen because I have reached my submission limit. Now its in for review. It takes so long to articles in ezine. I had one article in there for review for about 2 weeks. The slow process definitely halts the ranking progress.

    I like Goarticles and buzzle. The submission is right away. It could be for the bad because its not monitored but I have nothing else to loose.

    Update on the $$$
    Today I made $1.36. Yay! I actually made $1 today.
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    Thoughts and new projects:

    I have created about a pool of 5 keywords. All have amazing exact searches. From 6000 - 27 000.

    The next sites I create will vary in design and structure. Everyone seems to be copying John's layout and quiet frankly it might catch google's eye. I know its all about information but call me a consipracy theorist, I think it might be negative as more and more get into Xfactor's course. Multiple his product a 1000's of same site.

    Not only that, it does not help differentiate the design. I am going to get a new design tomorrow with the same concept but more appealing to the eye.
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    • Profile picture of the author falconflier19
      Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

      Thoughts and new projects:

      I have created about a pool of 5 keywords. All have amazing exact searches. From 6000 - 27 000.

      The next sites I create will vary in design and structure. Everyone seems to be copying John's layout and quiet frankly it might catch google's eye. I know its all about information but call me a consipracy theorist, I think it might be negative as more and more get into Xfactor's course. Multiple his product a 1000's of same site.

      Not only that, it does not help differentiate the design. I am going to get a new design tomorrow with the same concept but more appealing to the eye.
      I had the same response to another poster who had the same concern. I would strongly suggest coming up with your own design. There are so many template options available. John provided a great foundation, even he states that his method is not the end all, be all. Think outside the box. This method can be twisted a ton of ways.
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    • Profile picture of the author Retired
      Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

      Thoughts and new projects:

      I have created about a pool of 5 keywords. All have amazing exact searches. From 6000 - 27 000.

      The next sites I create will vary in design and structure. Everyone seems to be copying John's layout and quiet frankly it might catch google's eye. I know its all about information but call me a consipracy theorist, I think it might be negative as more and more get into Xfactor's course. Multiple his product a 1000's of same site.

      Not only that, it does not help differentiate the design. I am going to get a new design tomorrow with the same concept but more appealing to the eye.
      I think you may be right about the Xfactor's layout. I had 3 sites indexed fairly quickly and they wound up on page 1. Since then I've added 3 more sites. They have been crawled several times, but Google refuses to index them. The sights which were indexed appear to have been dropped, as the Page Rank indicator is now greyed out.
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      • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
        Originally Posted by Retired View Post

        I think you may be right about the Xfactor's layout. I had 3 sites indexed fairly quickly and they wound up on page 1. Since then I've added 3 more sites. They have been crawled several times, but Google refuses to index them. The sights which were indexed appear to have been dropped, as the Page Rank indicator is now greyed out.
        That is a disturbing find because my competition who was ranking #8 has been out of the SERPs for the same keyword now. The site is still up but it does not rank anywhere in the top 100.

        Very interesting.
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      • Profile picture of the author 7_8_shortcuts
        Originally Posted by Retired View Post

        I think you may be right about the Xfactor's layout. I had 3 sites indexed fairly quickly and they wound up on page 1. Since then I've added 3 more sites. They have been crawled several times, but Google refuses to index them. The sights which were indexed appear to have been dropped, as the Page Rank indicator is now greyed out.
        Are you putting your AdSense ads on your site immediately when you actually LAUNCH your site?

        I would wait for about 2-4 weeks BEFORE putting any monetization on the site and just build some backlinks from EzineArticles and the like.

        This usually will get you indexed faster...

        because

        Your site doesn't appear straight away to be "Made-For-AdSense" site

        but like a rather helpful content site.

        Just my opinion
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  • Profile picture of the author arth
    Ok, I will updates my sites.

    I have 5 sites, and two of them are using john's method. one of the domains was registered in Oct.2, the other is Oct.4.

    I have written 5 articles for the first one(one article each day), now the key word is appearing on the first page(No.9). But only that page is indexed in google.

    I earned my 50 cents on Oct.5 from visiters coming from SB sites, and that is all I earned.

    The second site I only wrote the home page, so far not indexed yet.

    After 5 nights work, It is a little bit tired writing articles and submit them.

    And a quick question for Ham, how did you manage your one-way backlink? how did you get all those PR 4 5 sites? Any secrets?

    Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    Trying out a new technique for backlinks. I am going to try some link exchanges with site #4 and see how well it ranks for the keywords.

    In regards to my high PR links, there is no strategy. I outright buy them. However I do have a procedure to assess how quality they are because some people just buy old pr domains and resell the links on ****ty sites.
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    • Profile picture of the author evertd
      Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

      In regards to my high PR links, there is no strategy. I outright buy them. However I do have a procedure to assess how quality they are because some people just buy old pr domains and resell the links on ****ty sites.
      This is off-topic, but one way to check if a site actually has the pagerank it says it has is to do a info:domain.com search on google. If you get no result or a different domain name back, then you know it's fake PR. I don't know how it works exactly, but there is a way to fake PR by doing some kind of redirect to a high pagerank site.
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      • Profile picture of the author m4ster
        My website was on first page of Google for targeted keyword. This morning, while I was checking rankings, I've noticed it had dropped down to page 10.

        Is that normal? Website is like one month old so that could be part of Google dance?

        Anyone else had similar experiences?
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        • Profile picture of the author mgcstrat
          That's very normal. Just part of the dance.
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        • Profile picture of the author Sebulba
          Originally Posted by m4ster View Post

          My website was on first page of Google for targeted keyword. This morning, while I was checking rankings, I've noticed it had dropped down to page 10.

          Is that normal? Website is like one month old so that could be part of Google dance?

          Anyone else had similar experiences?
          I'm not a pro, but sounds like Google is doing a jig (dance) with you.
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    • Profile picture of the author 7_8_shortcuts
      Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

      Trying out a new technique for backlinks. I am going to try some link exchanges with site #4 and see how well it ranks for the keywords.

      In regards to my high PR links, there is no strategy. I outright buy them. However I do have a procedure to assess how quality they are because some people just buy old pr domains and resell the links on ****ty sites.
      Hey there,

      I don't know the exact details of Xfactor's course, although I've heard it's fantastic!

      In regards to links...

      I think a good foundation is submitting a bunch of EzineArticles to point to each of your internal pages, but... using a VARIETY of anchor texts (containing your main keyword for the page) and NOT always using the same anchor text.

      Plus

      More links to the home page, than the internal pages.

      I think you should definitely be patient with EzineArticles and get your account to the next level, because those backlinks are of high quality!

      I would post at least 2-3 EzineArticles per page on your own website over time, plus of course backlinks from other places...

      And a good clean site layout is important too -- with Ads in the top fold and not looking too much as made-for-adsense sites etc.

      Cheers
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      • Profile picture of the author nettech
        Excellent advice, this must be an absolute minimum. There is something similar in XFactors course. Rich, if you've got some tme on your hands Id suggest you buy it and have a read, its excellent!

        Originally Posted by RichIsSweet View Post

        Hey there,

        I don't know the exact details of Xfactor's course, although I've heard it's fantastic!

        In regards to links...

        I think a good foundation is submitting a bunch of EzineArticles to point to each of your internal pages, but... using a VARIETY of anchor texts (containing your main keyword for the page) and NOT always using the same anchor text.

        Plus

        More links to the home page, than the internal pages.

        I think you should definitely be patient with EzineArticles and get your account to the next level, because those backlinks are of high quality!

        I would post at least 2-3 EzineArticles per page on your own website over time, plus of course backlinks from other places...

        And a good clean site layout is important too -- with Ads in the top fold and not looking too much as made-for-adsense sites etc.

        Cheers
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        • Profile picture of the author 7_8_shortcuts
          Originally Posted by nettech View Post

          Excellent advice, this must be an absolute minimum. There is something similar in XFactors course. Rich, if you've got some tme on your hands Id suggest you buy it and have a read, its excellent!
          Hey thanks

          I think I will get it :-)

          PS. One of the advantages of adsense-sites in my opinion is that they tend to be more consistent with earnings, even if your copy sucks for example, than let's say affiliate sites. Affiliate sites have a big potential too, but you have to know what offers convert and you have to write pretty convincing copy too (in a non-salesy way).
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  • Profile picture of the author Skills
    My only problem with adsense is putting in too much effort for little reward...once you get your site to rank you used hours upon hours of time and maybe only get like $8.00 out of the deal.

    I'm no longer going for the instant traffic with articles to get adsense traffic anymore, because they take alot of effort and they are spikey and then die down. So if your site isn't pulling you may have just through away an article, however with the consistent flow of traffic from a search engine you don't have to worry about that you can get to the front page and just work on your ctr, which is what makes your plan of action good.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tommo2007
    This is a brilliant thread. I would love to know how it's going for you now. Best of luck to you.
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    To rank high for your keyword ensure that your domain has your exact KW and NOTHING else.

    I had bought a domain name ( for site #2) and it read keywordphrasereview.com. I added the word review. In my testing so far, it has not made it to the first page.

    However, if you search "keyword phrase review" my site will come #1 in google even though I do not ever use the word REVIEW in my copy. I think this is a major breakthrough, for me at least, to rank high in google.

    My competitor site (another xfactor site) is ranking on the first page with links form link farm where as my site has one way pr 4 and pr 5 links. On top it also has ezine and go articles whereas the other does not.

    The reason I can conclude this is because the competition site is running on the same premise as I am and hence the only difference is in ranking, age and links. I have more quality links while he has more links. He has about 1 month/1.5 months on my domain. It just got indexed 2 weeks.

    Maybe I am jumping the gun, but nonetheless I can have some weak conclusions

    On the positive side, that same site is grabbing many pother unique keywords. It brings in about 10 unique a day. Very interesting.

    My adsense has been $1 yesterday and today. I hope it stays this consistent for the rest of the month.

    Will update soon.
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    • Profile picture of the author kingside
      Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

      To rank high for your keyword ensure that your domain has your exact KW and NOTHING else.
      +1 to that. I've tried a few keywords with appended "extras" and they don't do nearly as well out of the gate. I think as time goes on and more links are built, the actual name becomes less relevant, but for those who are extremely impatient like me an exact match is a must.
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      • Profile picture of the author gjd6599
        If you want to make money with adsense, you should read John's, aka XFactor's thread on adsense in this forum. I read it last saturday 10/3 and took notes. I bought a domain on 10/4, and followed his advice on the setup, except I used wordpress.

        Today 10/12 I went to my adsense account to get some code for a third site I am building, and noticed I had made 92 cents. When I checked google I am on page one, position five for that new site, and it didn't even get indexed until friday 10/9.

        The domain name has the exact keyword in it, with a .net, and two pages of content, with a couple of images. I wrote one article, different from the content on the site, spun it, and submitted it to ezine articles, blogger blog, and wordpress free blog, and that's it.

        It took me two days, but I can see me getting them done in a day as I get more organized. Maybe it was beginners luck, but I think this is a pretty good plan.

        Glenn
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    Just launched my 5th site. Working on the 6th site.

    Site #1 and site #4 are ranking on the first page. 2nd and 3rd are no where near the first page. I just have to spread in as many niches I can and drop the sites that do not rank well.

    Simple enough equation to follow.
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  • Profile picture of the author james kertley
    Good sharing with newbie and all warriors

    This thread is really inspire to others who really want to earn money online.
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    • Profile picture of the author nettech
      Before ny of that, you need to ensure you have the quality content which will serve relevant Ads which in turn will convert better. If you have that combo, the chances of success are greater!

      Originally Posted by itmodo View Post

      Huge traffic to the website and good CTR by ad placing are the key to success in Adsense.
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  • Profile picture of the author iworkforthem
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    To get any success in Adsense, you have to be super patience... I have a blog which I posted a few posts now and then, without any other effort on SEO, promotion, etc. It generated quite a bit of $$$ from it.

    Then once you get one generating some $$$ for you, move on to setup more, especially if you dun have too much traffic. LT works quite well with Adsense..
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    • Profile picture of the author skyparc
      Action is key, and you must make mistakes in order to be successful

      Thank you hamburglar,

      skyparc
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      • Profile picture of the author wordgeist
        Originally Posted by skyparc View Post

        Action is key, and you must make mistakes in order to be successful

        Thank you hamburglar,

        skyparc
        I agree you can learn more from you mistakes and apply what you learn.
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    I appreciate all the love I get on this thread.

    One thing for certain is that Adsense is a huge mental game. I wrote about this many times but I never thought it would be this challenging. Trying to stay positive and motivated is hard to do. Like Xfactor mentions, this is the most uncertain business model. You really have no idea or control over you earnings. In a drop of a second, everything can change.

    So I just launched another site and will spend this week, SEO'ing.

    Total Xfactor sites: 6
    Earnings: $5 so far.

    I have read post/threads about how some make $20-$50/day within two months. I am finding that very hard to believe as I am following the process and getting low results. To be fair, I have only started this one month ago.

    Anywho, back to writing more articles.
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    • Profile picture of the author kingside
      Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

      I have read post/threads about how some make $20-$50/day within two months. I am finding that very hard to believe as I am following the process and getting low results. To be fair, I have only started this one month ago.
      I think it's just a matter of volume. I'm a little over 3 weeks in and am doing $10+ each day, but I've been adding 5 sites a week where as you're only doing 1 or 2 a week. Not that that's bad, it'll just take longer for you to see results.

      But I totally agree, the first couple weeks are brutal when you're spending time and money everyday only to get one 30 cent click or something.
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      • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
        Wow, just in 3 weeks. That is amazing.

        I guess I have to pick up speed and get my ass a moving.
        Originally Posted by kingside View Post

        I think it's just a matter of volume. I'm a little over 3 weeks in and am doing $10+ each day, but I've been adding 5 sites a week where as you're only doing 1 or 2 a week. Not that that's bad, it'll just take longer for you to see results.

        But I totally agree, the first couple weeks are brutal when you're spending time and money everyday only to get one 30 cent click or something.
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      • Profile picture of the author nettech
        Incredible.....you've just raised the bar....lol

        So correct me if I'm wrong, thats like 1 site per day? Are you also submitting articles as well? Thats a lot of work if you are!


        Originally Posted by kingside View Post

        I think it's just a matter of volume. I'm a little over 3 weeks in and am doing $10+ each day, but I've been adding 5 sites a week where as you're only doing 1 or 2 a week. Not that that's bad, it'll just take longer for you to see results.

        But I totally agree, the first couple weeks are brutal when you're spending time and money everyday only to get one 30 cent click or something.
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        • Profile picture of the author kingside
          I made some adjustments after my first round of sites, so I'm doing things a little differently than John talks about. Probably the most important thing is that I don't submit nearly as many articles as he recommends. I'm also not slapping up additional content pages until the site proves itself out. That means rather than dedicating a ton of content to one new site, I'm spending time putting up additional sites.

          I'm only three weeks in so I certainly can't draw any conclusions. It's possible that a couple weeks or months down the road my sites will slip in the rankings because not enough backlinks were built, but I figure there's plenty of time to "fortify" the backlinks on several of my sites that are doing well out of the gate.

          Oh, and I outsource most of my article writing, which is a huge help. It'd be possible to write all the content myself, but I'd go crazy and not get more important work done .

          Originally Posted by nettech View Post

          Incredible.....you've just raised the bar....lol

          So correct me if I'm wrong, thats like 1 site per day? Are you also submitting articles as well? Thats a lot of work if you are!
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          • Profile picture of the author Sowemimo Oladele
            Originally Posted by kingside View Post

            Oh, and I outsource most of my article writing, which is a huge help. It'd be possible to write all the content myself, but I'd go crazy and not get more important work done .

            Hello Kingside,

            How do you outsource your article writting and how much do you pay @ an average/article.


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            • Profile picture of the author kingside
              I pay $2.00 for a 400-500 word article. I'm using a bit of a "proprietary" system for outsourcing my content right now (it'll be released soon), but for what it's worth I use to have good luck with Amazon mturk. If you want more details let me know, you gotta fine tune your approach.

              Originally Posted by Sowemimo Oladele View Post

              Hello Kingside,

              How do you outsource your article writting and how much do you pay @ an average/article.


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    • Profile picture of the author Rachel Zaouche
      Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

      I appreciate all the love I get on this thread.

      One thing for certain is that Adsense is a huge mental game. I wrote about this many times but I never thought it would be this challenging. Trying to stay positive and motivated is hard to do. Like Xfactor mentions, this is the most uncertain business model. You really have no idea or control over you earnings. In a drop of a second, everything can change.

      So I just launched another site and will spend this week, SEO'ing.

      Total Xfactor sites: 6
      Earnings: $5 so far.

      I have read post/threads about how some make $20-$50/day within two months. I am finding that very hard to believe as I am following the process and getting low results. To be fair, I have only started this one month ago.

      Anywho, back to writing more articles.
      Hamburglar

      I think you are doing great - I am sure that your sites will start bringing in more $ very soon.

      Your work ethic is admirable.

      Good luck

      Rach
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  • Profile picture of the author nettech
    Hamburglar,

    Keep it up mate, you're doing a cracking job and educating a lot of us, even those of us who've been in the game a while. Its a time thing as well, once your sites have a bit of history just watch, they'll come alive!

    Also, how long did it take your sites to get indexed?

    Are your sites static or Wordpress based?

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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    Thank you very much Nettech,

    Normally my websites get indexed within one week. Also I am using a static design rather than wordpress.
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  • Profile picture of the author flobaby
    Kingside, how many pages on average do you have per site?
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    Just Launched my 7th site.

    Getting the content together is getting very easy. Takes me about 30-50min to write up a page.

    I am also now writing content for the first page only and if the site ranks high I go further.

    My concept is this: launch many site as possible, SEO the crap out of them. Keep the ones that work.

    Its that simple.

    So I am focusing on Volume of sites I have in my portfolio now.
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    wow

    I just have to share this.

    Today's Earning: $5.28


    $5 in one day!! I think this is just for today but nonetheless amazing. I cannot believe my eyes.
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    Just Launched my 8th site.

    Really tired. Hopefully I can launch 2 more tomorrow and get my portfolio to 10. Then its all just SEO the crap outta them.
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    Congrats on the $5.00 day!
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    • Profile picture of the author olamilekan2
      Originally Posted by chukwuma View Post

      Thanks for this. Is it good to put adsense on your blog asap?
      Yes u can put adsense on your site or blog immediately
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  • Profile picture of the author WadeWinger
    What do you mean by "SEO the crap out of them" ?

    The course you are following suggests just submitting articles to ezinearticles and goarticles, no other seo or linking involved.
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    • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
      Originally Posted by WadeWinger View Post

      What do you mean by "SEO the crap out of them" ?

      The course you are following suggests just submitting articles to ezinearticles and goarticles, no other seo or linking involved.
      That is true the course taught that. Along side articles, I am doing social, plus blog commenting.

      I am testing everything and anything under the sun. Eliminating what doesn't work. Articles however are key but am also trying other stuff to solidify.

      Site #4 has 0 articles but maybe 1 backlink( a great one). It ranks #8 within one week.

      So I am playing around with what works for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author WadeWinger
    Most of my sites are ranking in the top 30 just because of the domain name, nothing else. Then after about 5 article submissions to EZA, I can usually get on the first page.
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    • Profile picture of the author HCLee
      May I know when you search for your niche sites what did you look for in terms of:
      a. no of searches per month:
      b. ad cost
      c. strength of competition (inanchor/intitle/inurl counts)

      to be able to rank in the top 30 solely because of your domain name. Just curious.



      Originally Posted by WadeWinger View Post

      Most of my sites are ranking in the top 30 just because of the domain name, nothing else. Then after about 5 article submissions to EZA, I can usually get on the first page.
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  • Profile picture of the author devilishsaint
    Yeah patience is the key to success. People just start expecting a lot after making a website and adding google adsense.
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  • Profile picture of the author m4ster
    I've just found another website similar to mine on first page of Google obviously built using John's method. That website was made one month after mine.

    I don't know if I should be angry or what... But at least I had a good laugh when I saw that title, in addition to keyword phrase, contains "Click here first!".

    Now, isn't that just pathetic?
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    • Profile picture of the author kingside
      That's just business. Don't get too bent out of shape

      Originally Posted by m4ster View Post

      I've just found another website similar to mine on first page of Google obviously built using John's method. That website was made one month after mine.

      I don't know if I should be angry or what... But at least I had a good laugh when I saw that title, in addition to keyword phrase, contains "Click here first!".

      Now, isn't that just pathetic?
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  • Profile picture of the author Kael41
    Not only is that sound business, BUT, i don't think it really matters IMO if you put ads on sooner or later. Just my own personal testing.
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  • Profile picture of the author nettech
    Oh dear, seems like Google has wised up....hmmmm maybe time to change the approach...lol
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  • Profile picture of the author arth
    Hey hamburglar and others, I met a huge problem and would like to hear what's your opinion on this.


    I found it is quite easy to get the main keyword(the one used in the domain name) indexed on the first page by google in just one week, but for other sub keywords, it is rather difficult for them to show in the first page(those pages or posts are indexed, but surely not in the first 100)

    Is there any difference of using john's method to different keywords?Did you guys met the same problem I did?

    Many thanks.
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    • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
      Originally Posted by arth View Post

      Hey hamburglar and others, I met a huge problem and would like to hear what's your opinion on this.


      I found it is quite easy to get the main keyword(the one used in the domain name) indexed on the first page by google in just one week, but for other sub keywords, it is rather difficult for them to show in the first page(those pages or posts are indexed, but surely not in the first 100)

      Is there any difference of using john's method to different keywords?Did you guys met the same problem I did?

      Many thanks.
      Hey,

      I am a bit confused in regards to your question. I do have difficulty ranking for the sub pages. I just think they would not rank as high because the keywords are not in the domain name. Other websites that have better optimization for those keywords will rank higher. That is my assumption.

      However, I have been seeing some traffic coming from my subpages. I have no idea how they are getting there though, my analytics says 0 but yet people view them.

      Interesting findings.
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      • Profile picture of the author digidoodles
        Are you using WP?

        If you are, install stat press. You'll be able to see what KW your visitors are coming in on.



        Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

        Hey,

        I am a bit confused in regards to your question. I do have difficulty ranking for the sub pages. I just think they would not rank as high because the keywords are not in the domain name. Other websites that have better optimization for those keywords will rank higher. That is my assumption.

        However, I have been seeing some traffic coming from my subpages. I have no idea how they are getting there though, my analytics says 0 but yet people view them.

        Interesting findings.
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    • Profile picture of the author nettech
      How close are your long tail keywords to your domain name? If they are very close then you shouldn't find it too hard to rank, if they aren't too relevant then you wont.

      Best thing to do in your longtail keywords is to look for at least 2 keywords that are in your domain and stem from that.

      That should give you a chance to rank at least in the top 100.

      Good luck

      Originally Posted by arth View Post

      Hey hamburglar and others, I met a huge problem and would like to hear what's your opinion on this.


      I found it is quite easy to get the main keyword(the one used in the domain name) indexed on the first page by google in just one week, but for other sub keywords, it is rather difficult for them to show in the first page(those pages or posts are indexed, but surely not in the first 100)

      Is there any difference of using john's method to different keywords?Did you guys met the same problem I did?

      Many thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author evertd
    I have something interesting happening. I am targeting a 3 word keyphrase, let's say "word1 word2 word3", and my domain name is "word1 word2 word3 guide.com". After a couple of weeks I'm ranked in around position 32 for my 3 word phrase, but for "word1 word2" I'm ranked at 8! Really interesting.
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    • Profile picture of the author RebeccaL
      Originally Posted by evertd View Post

      I have something interesting happening. I am targeting a 3 word keyphrase, let's say "word1 word2 word3", and my domain name is "word1 word2 word3 guide.com". After a couple of weeks I'm ranked in around position 32 for my 3 word phrase, but for "word1 word2" I'm ranked at 8! Really interesting.
      That tends to happen when you have a good keyword domain - keeping those rankings will require work on your part though
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    Just finished writing 10 articles today.

    I am getting the hang of writing articles. It is actually really fun.

    Also. I reached my $15 mark!!! WOOOT!!!!

    Revised Goal: Reach $20 in a month now.

    Currently I am at $17.24 in my adsense account for october.

    Really exciting. I am not in the $100/day yet but I am going one step at a time.
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    • Profile picture of the author ronb107
      Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

      Just finished writing 10 articles today.

      I am getting the hang of writing articles. It is actually really fun.

      Also. I reached my $15 mark!!! WOOOT!!!!

      Revised Goal: Reach $20 in a month now.

      Currently I am at $17.24 in my adsense account for october.

      Really exciting. I am not in the $100/day yet but I am going one step at a time.
      Thanks for the info.

      What are you earning typically per click? What CTRs are you seeing on average? And, are you strictly pushing products?

      Thanks again,
      Ron
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      • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
        MY CTR is avg about 11% this month. Last month it was at 3%. The big change in the CTR came from implementing Xfactor's concept layouts.

        The hard part of all this is getting your sites to rank. That is the name of the adsense game.

        Originally Posted by ronb107 View Post

        Thanks for the info.

        What are you earning typically per click? What CTRs are you seeing on average? And, are you strictly pushing products?

        Thanks again,
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        • Profile picture of the author ronb107
          Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

          MY CTR is avg about 11% this month. Last month it was at 3%. The big change in the CTR came from implementing Xfactor's concept layouts.

          The hard part of all this is getting your sites to rank. That is the name of the adsense game.
          Are you driving traffic only thru Article Submissions?

          Also, if you don't mind, what is your average earnings per click? Just trying to gauge your goal of $20 per month.

          Thanks Again.
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          • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
            Originally Posted by ronb107 View Post

            Are you driving traffic only thru Article Submissions?

            Also, if you don't mind, what is your average earnings per click? Just trying to gauge your goal of $20 per month.

            Thanks Again.
            Hey,

            Driving traffic from article marketing is useless. I had read that somewhere and in my experience with over (35) articles submitted, it is definitely useless for ADSENSE. It works for other business models but not adsense. However the backlinks is key.

            So it is safe to say that I am earning on AVG $1.50/day. It is very exciting. I had 2 $5/day and now I do about $2.

            My goal of $20 was reached just the day after I set it. My adsense account has: $26.46 as of Today.

            So my next goal now is to bump my daily earnings. My ultimate goal is to reach $100/day. Right now I am at $1/day.

            Next milestone: Earn $5/day.

            4 of my new sites just got ranked and indexed. I will see how this will help my return.
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            • Profile picture of the author ronb107
              Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

              Hey,

              Driving traffic from article marketing is useless. I had read that somewhere and in my experience with over (35) articles submitted, it is definitely useless for ADSENSE. It works for other business models but not adsense. However the backlinks is key.

              So it is safe to say that I am earning on AVG $1.50/day. It is very exciting. I had 2 $5/day and now I do about $2.

              My goal of $20 was reached just the day after I set it. My adsense account has: $26.46 as of Today.

              So my next goal now is to bump my daily earnings. My ultimate goal is to reach $100/day. Right now I am at $1/day.

              Next milestone: Earn $5/day.

              4 of my new sites just got ranked and indexed. I will see how this will help my return.
              Hey hamburglar:

              Thanks for the response.

              Yes, I meant drive traffic from the results of backlinks in your articles; not directly. Although, talking with a friend, if the articles are on the subject of your niche, then you could get significant direct traffic from the Articles. It would have to be a popular niche, tho.

              Ok if I get just a little more detail? I understand that you are making on avg $2 per day from a site, but what is the average payout per click (ie, 20 cents or $2)? And, what is the number of impressions daily (or visitors to your site)?

              Again, just trying to put things into context.

              Thanks
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              • Profile picture of the author Ibex
                Hi Hamburglar

                I'm really enjoying reading about your progress. I'm following this with interest as I am also following XFactors adsense program. Currently my earnings are nearly £9 and I still haven't completely finished my first two web sites, still need more content and articles.

                Interestingly the things I just though I would never be capable of doing have turned out to be the easiest and most enjoyable parts of the program. That is designing the websites, keyword research, organizing hosting, and finding domain names. The bit I though would be easy, creating content and articles has proved to be really difficult, still I'm going to follow the instructions to the letter for at least 10 sites just to see if the program works.

                The best of luck

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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    Guide to writing articles - 'Burg Style

    People don't like writing articles. Well not all but a very few selected. As mentioned over and over again, to succeed in google Adsense you need CONTENT and LOTS of it. So for the people who struggle at writing articles I have created this guide for you. I also hate writing articles....used to hate. I never did well in english school etc... but now I love it. Here is how.

    1) Pick a topic

    Choose something you love and of interest. Go to ezine and find an article that stands out to you. Ensure the topic resonates with your soul.

    2) Click on the article

    3) Copy and paste the article in a word document.

    4) Read the first paragraph and write it back in your own words. Read it out loud, then write down whatever you understand. Your perception will always be different and have its own twist.

    5) Rinse and Repeat.

    This is exactly what I do, word for word. I rewrite the first paragraph and by the end of it, my mind is already flowing with content. By the end of my 50th word, I lead into topics of my interest and come up with a killer 400 - 500 word article.

    The hard part about article writing is NOT KNOWING what to write. SO FIND SOMETHING THAT YOU DO KNOW ABOUT AND WRITE.

    I can now crank out at least 2 rough drafts in an hour.

    Hope this helps you guys.
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  • Profile picture of the author JMartin
    Sounds like you're chugging along.

    I tend to write a couple articles a day on average. Each new site of mine gets a couple articles and that's it until I see it moving.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr Money Maker
    Best way to go, is to try and create a huge mega site and rank as many pages in your site on google.
    To make over $100.00 + a day with Adsense your going to need some huge numbers to pull it off . I figure maybe 150,000 hits a month.
    Traffic is the key.....lots of traffic.
    I think it's far easier to sell a product of your own online.....but I wish you all the best.
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    • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
      Originally Posted by Mr Money Maker View Post

      Best way to go, is to try and create a huge mega site and rank as many pages in your site on google.
      To make over $100.00 + a day with Adsense your going to need some huge numbers to pull it off . I figure maybe 150,000 hits a month.
      Traffic is the key.....lots of traffic.
      I think it's far easier to sell a product of your own online.....but I wish you all the best.
      Have tried this 100000 times. Never worked for me.

      Also,

      Selling your own product is easy but requires a lot of customer care. I know this from the experience of my family business. That is one road I do not want to travel.
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    • Profile picture of the author digidoodles
      Traffic is key... but, not going to need 150K impressions per month for $100/day. Should be 1/2 of that.. 60-70K.

      Originally Posted by Mr Money Maker View Post

      Best way to go, is to try and create a huge mega site and rank as many pages in your site on google.
      To make over $100.00 + a day with Adsense your going to need some huge numbers to pull it off . I figure maybe 150,000 hits a month.
      Traffic is the key.....lots of traffic.
      I think it's far easier to sell a product of your own online.....but I wish you all the best.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kael41
    hamburglar,
    If you really want to shine for a per day average - do this:

    research some keywords for the christmas holiday season. Find a keyword/domain name combo that is regularly searched for, but one that you know you can rank for.

    Develop that site out and do some backlinking. Now, reap the rewards

    I've got 3 halloween sites pulling in bank this year. 1 of them was 2 years established, and the other 2 were created AFTER last years halloween.

    I always tell people - create a site for something that people will search for. "how to" "how do i" "find" etc
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    Just got back in from NYC.

    My earnings right now are stuck at $1/day. I thought by now, with 10 websites, I sure would reach $5 - $10/day as others have with xfactors method. I still have yet to see this. I have followed his guide except for the part about writing sub content pages. So maybe that is my missing link.

    This week I am going to spend time creating 5 sub pages for each site and monitor my income growth.
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    • Profile picture of the author 2d0k
      Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

      Just got back in from NYC.

      My earnings right now are stuck at $1/day. I thought by now, with 10 websites, I sure would reach $5 - $10/day as others have with xfactors method. I still have yet to see this. I have followed his guide except for the part about writing sub content pages. So maybe that is my missing link.

      This week I am going to spend time creating 5 sub pages for each site and monitor my income growth.
      Have you already solved why your earnings are stuck in $1/day? any other interesting updates?
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      • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
        Originally Posted by 2d0k View Post

        Have you already solved why your earnings are stuck in $1/day? any other interesting updates?
        No, I have not solved this yet.

        I think this will happen with me testing a couple of methods. I am still baffled as to how individuals can get $20 - $50/day with 5 sites. It is probably the niches and rankings. Thats all there is to adsense.

        So I am going to focus on ranking my current sites in the top 3. Only 1 site ranks in the top 3 whereas the other sites are all on page 1 but not top 3.
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  • Profile picture of the author 2d0k
    whoaah! I really like your discipline and the efforts you've put to reach your goals. It's really interesting and fun reading this thread.. thank you that you've started this.. Brings a whiff of inspiration to me.. 10 sites? nice.. nice..
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  • Profile picture of the author Irsan Komarga
    Hambuglar: Do you have site with e.g. cordlesskeyboardreviews.com that rank high for keyword cordless keyboard? or do you have site with e.g. cordless-keyboard-reviews.com and still rank high?
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    • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
      Originally Posted by Irsan Komarga View Post

      Hambuglar: Do you have site with e.g. cordlesskeyboardreviews.com that rank high for keyword cordless keyboard? or do you have site with e.g. cordless-keyboard-reviews.com and still rank high?
      I do not use and "-" in my domain names. I do not know how well that ranks.

      You should try the "-" out and see how things go.
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  • Profile picture of the author tjcocker
    I feel your pain Hamburglar. After reading John's thread I set out to make $100/day. I have 18 websites built, but I'm still averaging around $2/day. I went a little too fast in the beginning. I'm slowly figuring out which ones rank better and why. Having that many sites to tweak helps me figure out so many details that I never would've thought about.

    I admire your honesty and work ethic. I learned that only through failure can we make great leaps forward. I used to spend hours trying to build 1 page because I didn't know HTML or CSS and had a ton of problems basically trying copy and paste my content into pre-made templates. When I completely messed up an 8 page website to point where it wouldn't work at all I forced myself to learn HTML. Now I make pages in minutes totally from scratch.

    It's all a process. My only goal is to keep learning. Money will follow later, hopefully. Thanks for letting us know there are other people in the same boat.
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    • Profile picture of the author 2d0k
      Originally Posted by tjcocker View Post


      It's all a process. My only goal is to keep learning. Money will follow later, hopefully. Thanks for letting us know there are other people in the same boat.
      Thumbs up for your perseverance.
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      • Profile picture of the author Rachel Zaouche
        This is a great thread. Hamburglar please keep coming back and letting us know how you are getting on.

        Content is king so they say so subpages may help.

        All the best

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        • Profile picture of the author simonheng82
          Hi, i am another John subscriber with 15 websites up since 2 weeks ago, 8 of them indexed within few days and the rest are still yet to be indexed.

          Few articles submitted to directory with some backlinking juice from angela packet, i am monitoring the result right now.

          Thanks for hamburglar starting this thread and share your work towards success. I am in now

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          • Profile picture of the author simonheng82
            Sorry Hamburglar for bumping your thread, but i would like to tell everybody that one of my indexed site earned me $2.82 this morning from 7 clicks This is only with 1 article submitted to directory. The initial indexed SERP s on the 5th position but i am not sure it will drop in the coming days......

            Anyway this is a good start, i hope you too.

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  • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
    Don't be afraid to take on a more competitive niche. Micro niches are great, but you do hit a wall at some point where your need to create new pages of content and get backlinks is overwhelming. A Page 2 ranking for a more competitive keyword with higher search volume often pulls more traffic than a high Page 1 ranking for a long-tail keyword.

    Whichever path you choose, the key is maintenance. Keep adding content and never stop building links with good anchor text. You'll get there, as long as the keywords you targeted have enough traffic potential. Some don't pan out. Believe me, I've been there many times.

    Thanks for this thread, hamburglar.

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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    Thank you guys for the support.

    I have realized that for any of my sites to rank high I NEED GOOD BACKLINKS. So I have broadened my backlink campaigns. I strictly used articles and now am switching to TLJ(thelinkjuicer). I am in the test phase to see what works and what doesn't.

    Out of my 10 sites, I only have 4 sites that rank in the top 20. the other 6 are indexed but nowhere to be found. That puzzles me because I have thoroughly checked the competition and they have very low SOC. Once again, you never know what the big G is up to hahaha.

    Also, 8 of my sites only have one page of content. I am refocusing quality subpage content. I have developed a list of 10 more keywords to launch my sites this month.

    Yesterday I earned $4.55!!

    So my goals Thus far:

    Month of October: $46.77
    Month of September: $13.66

    I only started the Xactor stuff at the end of September, so it does work. BUT YOU NEED TO DO A LOT OF WORK. Its not simple set it and forget it. At least for now.

    It requires a lot of work.

    Time to keep pushing
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    • Profile picture of the author simonheng82
      That is true that even with low soc, i will try to search that particular keyword and look at the competing sites on the top right corner. I have also found a keyword with SOC 6 but google search result shows 11Mil competing sites....For me, i will still look for competitions lesser than 500K.

      On the same project, i have also tried to look for spell error keywords, i did pretty well with this one page site with no backlink built, i earned $60+ purely from SE visitors, low soc as well as low competitions. But this only last me for 3+ months, and i found this site to be no where in google, but it is still indexed.

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  • Profile picture of the author nettech
    In addition to the usual keyword research, I also use the SEO for Firefox plugin and look at the sites on the first page. If they are between PR 1-3 then worth optimising for. If there are a lot of PR4+ then I generally wont bother or try to take another angle.

    Good thread Hamburglar
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    Great Idea .thx
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  • Profile picture of the author js112
    Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

    Hey guys,



    Goal: To make $1 in a month. I set too many high expectations. This time it I am taking baby steps.

    After this I will increase it to $2 so on and so forth.

    Ultimate goal: to make $100 - $300/day, but that is far away. Patience is key.


    Mods: If this is in the wrong area, I apologize. I thought it would be good here cause its for adsense.
    man i agree with you at this point, just start with a lower expectation,then you will never feel disappointed
    good luck
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    • Profile picture of the author simonheng82
      Taking small steps is good but sometimes you have to think big and act big, especially when you see so many of success stories through Xfactor course. This is the main reason i setup 15 sites in 1 weeks...

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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    I have 10 sites launched and am earning around $1/day.

    I hope to increase this by the end of this month. I am trying to find various ways of building backlinks but realized I am moving away from xfactors book. Now I am trying to focus on what Xfactor said.

    Should be a fun ride.
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    • Profile picture of the author Charley Brown
      Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

      I have 10 sites launched and am earning around $1/day.

      I hope to increase this by the end of this month. I am trying to find various ways of building backlinks but realized I am moving away from xfactors book. Now I am trying to focus on what Xfactor said.

      Should be a fun ride.
      Remember, what works for one does not necessarily work for others. Xfactor's methods are definitely good, but if you can supplement what he is doing, you will be even better off.
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      • Profile picture of the author nettech
        Yes I agree with this totally, Ive got XFactor type sites up and also making subtle tweaks to existing sites that make me the core of my earnings.

        Originally Posted by Charley Brown View Post

        Remember, what works for one does not necessarily work for others. Xfactor's methods are definitely good, but if you can supplement what he is doing, you will be even better off.
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    I just created a new design based on Xfactor's concept. It looks 10X better and is converting around 20-50%. Its only been one week though, so I will see how this template works in the long run.
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    • Profile picture of the author ronb107
      Care to share on the design. Couldn't resist asking.
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    • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
      Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

      I just created a new design based on Xfactor's concept. It looks 10X better and is converting around 20-50%. Its only been one week though, so I will see how this template works in the long run.
      Not at this moment. I am in a phase of testing the designs and my backlink work. The site is built of Xfactor's framework however it is a tad more appealing and focused to the eye.
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      • Profile picture of the author simonheng82
        You can always try to design your own template as well as to have the type of adsense ads that you could blending in. It is not necessary to follow exactly what other find useful. You may do better if you got the kick.

        Just to update on my 15 sites adventure, all the sites are being indexed and 8 of them appear in the first page, 4 in the second, 3 in more than 10th. I believe the SERP is not firm yet as it will still fluctuating in the coming days, lets see....

        Adsense get me around $.80 to $1.20 per day average since 3 days ago. Like what hamburglar said, hope to increase the earning by end of the month, maybe to $2-3 per day. At this stage, I am going to only follow Xfactor suggestion in this project by just posting article to get backlink. Sooner or later, i will be joining angela with her high PR link building Nov packets, hope it helps too..

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        • Profile picture of the author ronb107
          Has anyone noticed that Google is lowering the earnings per click (EPC)?

          My sites started with high EPCs and have slowly dropped to half the initial value. Also noticed that my impressions are dropping as well.
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          • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
            Originally Posted by ronb107 View Post

            Has anyone noticed that Google is lowering the earnings per click (EPC)?

            My sites started with high EPCs and have slowly dropped to half the initial value. Also noticed that my impressions are dropping as well.
            Haven't noticed this at all. I just earned $5 yesterday.
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            • Profile picture of the author rajsidhux
              What should you do if your site was ranking nicely in the top five - six results for its keyword for about 3 weeks and then one day it is nowhere to be seen. The site is still showing in Google if you type the domain in the search box, so it is not de-indexed.

              The site is 5 weeks old.

              Should I be worried? Or is ths natural.

              Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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              • Profile picture of the author sarasayshi
                Originally Posted by rajsidhux View Post

                What should you do if your site was ranking nicely in the top five - six results for its keyword for about 3 weeks and then one day it is nowhere to be seen. The site is still showing in Google if you type the domain in the search box, so it is not de-indexed.

                The site is 5 weeks old.

                Should I be worried? Or is ths natural.

                Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
                Get some more back links. Just keep pumping out back links to the site and it will come back up again. It's all part of the google dance. As long as the site is still indexed, you are good to go.
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                • Profile picture of the author ronb107
                  Originally Posted by sarasayshi View Post

                  Get some more back links. Just keep pumping out back links to the site and it will come back up again. It's all part of the google dance. As long as the site is still indexed, you are good to go.
                  And how do you determine if your site is indexed, and where you rank for a given keyword?
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                  • Profile picture of the author sarasayshi
                    Originally Posted by ronb107 View Post

                    And how do you determine if your site is indexed, and where you rank for a given keyword?
                    If you type in your full URL into google such as http://www.mysite.com and any page from your site shows up, you are still indexed. If you are deindexed none of your pages from your site will show up in the search results.

                    I am not sure I quite understand your second question. As far as rankings, I am sure the original poster knew his targeted keyword that he was ranking for which is why he knows he is no longer on the first page of google for it.
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                    • Profile picture of the author ronb107
                      Originally Posted by sarasayshi View Post

                      If you type in your full URL into google such as http://www.mysite.com and any page from your site shows up, you are still indexed. If you are deindexed none of your pages from your site will show up in the search results.

                      I am not sure I quite understand your second question. As far as rankings, I am sure the original poster knew his targeted keyword that he was ranking for which is why he knows he is no longer on the first page of google for it.
                      For checking on your site being indexed, either try site:http://mysite.com or
                      go to this website: Indexed By Google?

                      For checking on where in the SERP your site ranks for a keyword, go to: Find your website rank on google across different countries
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                      • Profile picture of the author andyj00
                        This is a helpful thread.

                        Ok, my experiance with my Xfactor type Adsense sites:

                        I have 5 sites and last month they made a total of £73 which is around $120. Fairly pleased with that but no-where near what Xfactor says in his course. He says we should be getting an average of $5 a day, per site. I'm getting $0.80 a day, quite a way off.

                        Now I get a great CTR on the whole so the only way to get anywhere near $5 is I'd need SHED loads of traffic.

                        I have around 20 ezine articles for each site and have done Angelas backlinks.
                        I'm guessing I'd have to double or treble the amount of articles written for each site. How long would that take? Or would I be better off starting more new miche niche sites? It's difficult to know what to do for the best.

                        I'm not moaning - merely stating the facts in black and white
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                        • Profile picture of the author Fraggler
                          Originally Posted by andyj00 View Post

                          Now I get a great CTR on the whole so the only way to get anywhere near $5 is I'd need SHED loads of traffic.
                          There is another factor that reduces the amount of traffic you require - the average CPC. If you are only getting cheap clicks then your content isn't attracting the expensive ads. You have to make the decision between chosing markets with a high CPC or chosing markets that are easy to get traffic in. The ideal situation is a high CPC market that is easy to get traffic for.

                          It isn't hard to get $1 per click with Adsense if you quantify the CPC before committing to a site.
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                          • Profile picture of the author andyj00
                            Originally Posted by Fraggler View Post

                            There is another factor that reduces the amount of traffic you require - the average CPC. If you are only getting cheap clicks then your content isn't attracting the expensive ads. You have to make the decision between chosing markets with a high CPC or chosing markets that are easy to get traffic in. The ideal situation is a high CPC market that is easy to get traffic for.

                            It isn't hard to get $1 per click with Adsense if you quantify the CPC before committing to a site.
                            Yes this is a good point! I forgot that. Yes I'm not getting a lot per click 30-50 cents on average I recon.
                            Even using MNF, its difficult to find a high paying niche that is low in competition and high in searches. Its either one or the other.
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                        • Profile picture of the author thmgoodw
                          Originally Posted by andyj00 View Post

                          This is a helpful thread.

                          Ok, my experiance with my Xfactor type Adsense sites:

                          I have 5 sites and last month they made a total of £73 which is around $120. Fairly pleased with that but no-where near what Xfactor says in his course. He says we should be getting an average of $5 a day, per site. I'm getting $0.80 a day, quite a way off.

                          Now I get a great CTR on the whole so the only way to get anywhere near $5 is I'd need SHED loads of traffic.

                          I have around 20 ezine articles for each site and have done Angelas backlinks.
                          I'm guessing I'd have to double or treble the amount of articles written for each site. How long would that take? Or would I be better off starting more new miche niche sites? It's difficult to know what to do for the best.

                          I'm not moaning - merely stating the facts in black and white
                          If your CTR rate is great, then as you noticed the issue is with your traffic. That is, you're not getting any.

                          You have to keep in mind that by some estimates the #1 ranking in Google gets up to 40% of the organic clickthrough traffic.

                          I think Xfactor's book has great information on a how to think about an adsense template and what types of keywords you should be going after, but if you really want to do well you should absorb everything that you can in this forum about ranking well in Google.

                          As for the mass article writing thing, as others have stated as well, I find that a bit too old school for my tastes.
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                          • Profile picture of the author Retired
                            Originally Posted by thmgoodw View Post


                            As for the mass article writing thing, as others have stated as well, I find that a bit too old school for my tastes.
                            So if article writing is old school, what's the new way?
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                            • Profile picture of the author simonheng82
                              You say this is old school meaning that you are expecting instant result, AM will not give you instant success but you should look at it in long term.

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                              • Profile picture of the author tjcocker
                                Keep it up hamburglar, I like checking in to see how you're doing. We both started at about the same time and are on almost the same pace. You're beating me in money/day tho... :p

                                I think $5/day per site is doable, but we'll need to weed through a lot of BS niches before figuring out the really good ones like XFactor. Just because someone has put up a site and tweaked it a little doesn't mean you should base your entire opinion on that. Some of my sites get visitors, but no clicks. Some get 20%+ CTR. A recent Halloween site was earning me $2-$4/day, until November. Now, nada. Back to maybe $1/day

                                There are so many details and factors in this sort of work that it's practically impossible to say anything with any certainty. You just need to keep testing and trying new things.

                                Threads like this help us all so we don't have to completely reinvent the wheel. Thanks for sharing your experiences.
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                            • Profile picture of the author thmgoodw
                              Originally Posted by Retired View Post

                              So if article writing is old school, what's the new way?
                              (1) profile backlinks on high PR domains
                              (2) dofollow blog commenting
                              (3) RSS feeds
                              (4) social bookmarking

                              For any of my sites that rank well, I always have under 5% of the links coming from articles or web 2.0 hubpages/squidoo type sites.
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                              • Profile picture of the author 7_8_shortcuts
                                Originally Posted by thmgoodw View Post

                                (1) profile backlinks on high PR domains
                                (2) dofollow blog commenting
                                (3) RSS feeds
                                (4) social bookmarking

                                For any of my sites that rank well, I always have under 5% of the links coming from articles or web 2.0 hubpages/squidoo type sites.
                                Yes, but Article Backlinks are high value and they stick... Especially if they come from places like EzineArticles. It's important however to vary the anchor texts of the backlinks.

                                RSS, social bookmarking and blog are all nice and fine... but they tend to work rather short-term... unless you keep on promoting your sites every day...

                                and for a "normal" human being there usually comes a limit to the number of sites one can promote simultaneously... Long term strategies might be slower, but they tend to stick.
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    Just wrote up 6 articles.

    I am getting too lazy with this. The time is now to move faster and harder.
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    Man,

    Feeling a bit burnt. Working on the sites and articles. This is a very long and tough battle. I have to keep reminding myself to have patience. I am earning $2/day (taking a look at my last couple of days).

    I focused last week too much on people that were making $50 from a couple of sites. I have to realize that their work has nothing to do with mine. And I will get what I earn in due time. I just have to stay focused.

    Adsense is also a personal development game, if you guys have not noticed. Hehehe.
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  • Profile picture of the author zachary0611
    How many words do you have in your one page sites? I have 300 words for my one page site but I am unsure if I need to add more info.
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  • Profile picture of the author 32paul52
    Good work guys- yeap action is the key get them up get them some promotion, and keep moving, focus on solutions to challenges, like time, writing etc- and Go for it!

    I am also following johns advice......
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  • Profile picture of the author euhlir
    The thing you have to ask yourself is if it's worth it, writing and making numerous sites for $20-$50 per month?

    I haven't seen ONE person say they are earning $5/day from each site, like Xfactor claims you should be making.

    Suspicious? There's reason to be.

    Either he's not telling everything like it is, or perhaps he's not telling it like it really is.

    I've read many accounts of people using his method verbatim and still not seeing anything close to $5/day per site.
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    • Profile picture of the author BillyPilgrim
      So quit. It's what you want to do anyway. And then go onto the Next Big Thing (guru BS)
      I make over a hundred bucks a month from two sites. It's not much but I see John's methods as a tweak to what I had been doing. But it didn't happen overnight. It took a number of months for my sites to take off. Just keep working.

      Or not.
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    I spent a good time reading this thread and it is truley an inspiration
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    Wow,

    Love the conversation that is happening.

    I am also looking into High paying CPC low comp keywords. I have 2 sites that are carrying my adsense. The others have a 1% CTR which is kinda scary.

    @euhlir: I understand your concern. Trust me I do. But I have one site that earns $3-4/daily. The only problem/challenge is that my other 9 dont. hehehehehehhahaha.

    Now if I can only multiply that site.

    Guys for this month I am avg $3/day. wooot! Slowly getting up there.

    I am working on this new template and it has yielded me the best CTR so far. Its at 50%. The clicks are very low paying though. Its been up for 3 days so far.

    Lets go guy's we can accomplish $100/day.

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    • Profile picture of the author simonheng82
      I have the same problem as u did, out of the 15 sites i have, only few of them consistently getting clicks, others dont, now i am getting $2 per day consistently for 3 days. I am also with the passion in getting $100 per day out of this course,

      I am planning to file my "road to adsense success" in a blog, what you guys think? Or i should continue sharing the experience here?

      SImon

      Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

      Wow,

      Love the conversation that is happening.

      I am also looking into High paying CPC low comp keywords. I have 2 sites that are carrying my adsense. The others have a 1% CTR which is kinda scary.

      @euhlir: I understand your concern. Trust me I do. But I have one site that earns $3-4/daily. The only problem/challenge is that my other 9 dont. hehehehehehhahaha.

      Now if I can only multiply that site.

      Guys for this month I am avg $3/day. wooot! Slowly getting up there.

      I am working on this new template and it has yielded me the best CTR so far. Its at 50%. The clicks are very low paying though. Its been up for 3 days so far.

      Lets go guy's we can accomplish $100/day.

      Remember:
      Provide Quality and you will get Quality Money!
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  • Profile picture of the author digidoodles
    For the record, we're doing the Adsense thing too.

    Took parts from here and there and a little tweak here and a little tweak there (here a tweak, there a tweak, every where a tweak tweak.. can you tell I have 5 little kidlets?

    We don't have an option for this working or not... hence, do or die marketing. A self-proclaimed guru marketer from the UK cheated us out of $18K at the end of September... that stung.

    Onward and upward. My partner is the calculator guy. He made predictions as to what we have to do to achieve X (whatever X is at that moment.) He's been exactly, spot on since the beginning. And that has helped us TREMENDOUSLY in figuring out what we have to do to get to where we want to be.

    We started on September 24, the day that self-righteous, self-proclaimed information marketing guru stiffed us out of $18K.

    Content + Products + Persistence = Money


    We'll get there. We will.
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  • Profile picture of the author l23bc
    man! you warriors really raised the bar just about to go bed thinking how the **ll am i suppost to get adsense clicks as its been bugging me for weeks now and i am glad i have bookedmarked this post

    heres my problem, my site is sat at page one at the very top out of 44 million other websites however im just getting 1,5,6 clicks a day if possibile and i have a ctr of 1.43% so far form last month have only made £1.98 or in dollars thats $3 i think not too sure on exchange rate, some days i have been on the top of google yet no traffic, so frustrating however my other site is on bing page 1 also and yahoo page one 7 down but no were to be seen on google.

    I have been very slow at link building and blog comment also to make it look natural,have checked my keywords and there very low competition, sorted out my meta tags and headers,footers ect,

    would really like some advice to them people here who are saying im making $5 a day or 100 a day as i must be missing out on something,

    also i have some good pr blog comments and high directory submits on my site to plug traffic but when i do a backlink check i dont see the pr or links, how long does it take google to realise my pages have pr links

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    • Profile picture of the author simonheng82
      although you are competing with millions of site out there, but did you make a research on the search counts? I do have a site with 3.3mil competitions, but the exact search only 880 per months, i am in the 4th spot for this keyword and having average 1-2 clicks per day, CTR 3-4%.....

      In contrast to this, i have a also a site with 4K search per month, but the competitions only 200K, that is how it works, having high competitions doesnt means that you would have high search. Just my 0.02.

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    • Profile picture of the author mjbaker
      Originally Posted by l23bc View Post

      heres my problem, my site is sat at page one at the very top out of 44 million other websites however im just getting 1,5,6 clicks a day if possibile and i have a ctr of 1.43% so far form last month have only made £1.98 or in dollars thats $3 i think
      andy
      Andy,

      What is the search count estimate for Broad or Phrase or Exact?

      And, are you logged out of your Google account when you check your ranking?

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  • Profile picture of the author euhlir
    Don't get me wrong Adsense is a viable way to make money. There are just so many people following Xfactor's method exactly and then wondering why they aren't making $5/site.

    With the amount of work that you'd have to do with xfactor's method it just doesn't seem to pay off well for those who follow it exactly. There are easier ways to get great backlinks than writing 15-20 articles per site.

    If you look for ways to improve on his system then it may be worth it, but always think about the time you're investing and the payment you're receiving.

    If you have no problem spending 8-10 hours on a site to earn $7/month and having to keep it updated with fresh articles then that's your decision. You could write 1 article for a client and earn that in 15 minutes.
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    • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
      Originally Posted by euhlir View Post

      Don't get me wrong Adsense is a viable way to make money. There are just so many people following Xfactor's method exactly and then wondering why they aren't making $5/site.

      With the amount of work that you'd have to do with xfactor's method it just doesn't seem to pay off well for those who follow it exactly. There are easier ways to get great backlinks than writing 15-20 articles per site.

      If you look for ways to improve on his system then it may be worth it, but always think about the time you're investing and the payment you're receiving.

      If you have no problem spending 8-10 hours on a site to earn $7/month and having to keep it updated with fresh articles then that's your decision. You could write 1 article for a client and earn that in 15 minutes.

      Very Interesting. I understand your point but would have to disagree on the earnings potential. The example you gave is of a taxi cab business. "Fare" business. Once you are done working with the client, then there is no earnings.

      The beauty with adsense site is the perpetual income without being married to the end result. Also the scalability of the business model. In order to earn more you must produce more with the traditional method. But with adsense you can have only a handful sites that earn you more and more without the same relation to producing those sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    @euhlir


    One of my sites is officially making $5/DAY.

    So to everyone thinks that it doesn't work, it does

    IT JUST TAKES TIME and persistence.

    My first day that I hit $7!!! yay!

    The new theme works wonders.
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    I have 12.

    yourself?
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  • Profile picture of the author zachary0611
    3 years ago my arcade site got linked by a couple of big sites on Halloween for my game Mario Halloween and made 40 dollars in one day at about .05 cents a click, so it is very possible.
    Is there a template I can use that looks somewhat like your new theme?
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    • Profile picture of the author simonheng82
      i have 3 out of 15 indexed site since 2 weeks ago are earning consistently $2 per day, the rest are average in $0.5 to 0.8 YTD.

      I am submitting 2-3 articles per day to directories consistently for all the 15 sites, will see how the SERP goes after 1 month from now.

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  • Profile picture of the author nettech
    Well done Hamburglar, its nice to see you slowly and surely achieving your target. One of my sites just jumped up from position 10, then was sitting at 7 and now has jumped up to 6th woo hoooo and I can see how much of a difference it makes.
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    • Profile picture of the author simonheng82
      I think it is time to update my road to adsense success again today, i have built a total of 15 sites 3 weeks ago, 10 out of 15 are ranked with the main keyword in first page, 5 of the rest, 3 is in the 2nd page and 2 out of nowhere. I am quite happy with the result as i have only submitted 1 article to buzzle for each site, for sure, i will be keep on submitting to other directories in the near future. YTD earning is $70 and CTR at 20-30%, but i feel that there is still room to improve in term of CTR by the means of changing the template (FYI. i am not using Xfactor type of template)

      today i have purchased 6 more domains with exact keyword in the domain, but one of them having the word "store" at the back of the keyword, reason is i dont want to lose the chance in getting the piece of cake from the big pie (9000 searches with SOC14), for sure, i will be updating how is the result from this site in the coming future. Anyway, target to up all these sites in 3 days.

      This thread getting slow recently, come on guys, share your experience here to help each others. See you soon.

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      • Profile picture of the author sarasayshi
        Originally Posted by simonheng82 View Post

        I think it is time to update my road to adsense success again today, i have built a total of 15 sites 3 weeks ago, 10 out of 15 are ranked with the main keyword in first page, 5 of the rest, 3 is in the 2nd page and 2 out of nowhere. I am quite happy with the result as i have only submitted 1 article to buzzle for each site, for sure, i will be keep on submitting to other directories in the near future. YTD earning is $70 and CTR at 20-30%, but i feel that there is still room to improve in term of CTR by the means of changing the template (FYI. i am not using Xfactor type of template)

        today i have purchased 6 more domains with exact keyword in the domain, but one of them having the word "store" at the back of the keyword, reason is i dont want to lose the chance in getting the piece of cake from the big pie (9000 searches with SOC14), for sure, i will be updating how is the result from this site in the coming future. Anyway, target to up all these sites in 3 days.

        This thread getting slow recently, come on guys, share your experience here to help each others. See you soon.

        Simon
        Simon, I am interested to find out how well you do with adding a word onto the domain. I have found that out of the 3 domains I added a word to, none of them are near ranking on page 1 or even page 2 yet and they are all about 1 month old.
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        • Profile picture of the author simonheng82
          Hi Sarasayshi,
          From my 15 sites. i have one domain with the word "the" before the keyword, it is about 3 weeks now, still far behind listed in search result But i am keeping the momentum in building subpages for this site, hope it helps.

          The second domain that bought recently is with the word "store" behind the keyword, still not indexed yet, for sure, i will update the progress very soon.

          Simon


          Originally Posted by sarasayshi View Post

          Simon, I am interested to find out how well you do with adding a word onto the domain. I have found that out of the 3 domains I added a word to, none of them are near ranking on page 1 or even page 2 yet and they are all about 1 month old.
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    Hey Simon,

    It is excellent to read your progress.

    My progress thus far has been good. I hit $10/day with one of my sites.

    I now have a pool of 20 sites. I am concentrating on building those up now. Add more content pages, get better backlinks. There is not point in building more if these are not generating revenue.

    One more thing.

    1 site that generated good revenue got delisted/banned whatever. I think I know why and am very upset about this. My content was great. There were 2 other Xfactor type sites. They also got delisted.

    But this other guy COPIED my site word for word. Even the domain was mine except pluralized. WTF!!!

    So now I have changed up my templates and how my content is displayed/written. If google got me then its just a matter of time until they get the others. So for the next little while, I am focusing on building kick ass 20 niche sites that are much MORE than just simple product reviews.
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    • Profile picture of the author Zinc Web Design
      Could google be stamping down on these xfactor layouts? Is that possible?
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    • Profile picture of the author simonheng82
      Hi Bro,
      I feel your pain, i got the same "punishment" as well! I am not sure i mentioned this in my earlier post, but i have a site which is targeting wrong spelled keyword, it is doing extremely well in the first 4 months, and it earns me $30-40 per month (this is only a 1 page site with no maintenance at all in 4 months). it got delisted with the main keyword from 3rd spot in google, but the site is still indexed.....only getting 1-2 visitors per day with some clicks over the month

      Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

      Hey Simon,

      It is excellent to read your progress.

      My progress thus far has been good. I hit $10/day with one of my sites.

      I now have a pool of 20 sites. I am concentrating on building those up now. Add more content pages, get better backlinks. There is not point in building more if these are not generating revenue.

      One more thing.

      1 site that generated good revenue got delisted/banned whatever. I think I know why and am very upset about this. My content was great. There were 2 other Xfactor type sites. They also got delisted.

      But this other guy COPIED my site word for word. Even the domain was mine except pluralized. WTF!!!

      So now I have changed up my templates and how my content is displayed/written. If google got me then its just a matter of time until they get the others. So for the next little while, I am focusing on building kick ass 20 niche sites that are much MORE than just simple product reviews.
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    • Profile picture of the author kislany
      Must be the same guy who copied my site word for word, except I had the org domain and he took the net. I've changed my site around as well completely and from what I see, he's nowhere to be found in the SERPS and I'm #3 but it does suck to see people like that who only want to easy and unethical way out...

      Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

      Hey Simon,



      But this other guy COPIED my site word for word. Even the domain was mine except pluralized. WTF!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author euhlir
    @Zinc

    Google wouldn't ban a website just for it's layout. Google only wants the best sites to show up in its rankings so if you're site offers no value to a visitor, or is spammy, then yes there is a chance of it getting deindexed.

    If your site offers valuable content to a visitor then it will likely stick, if google ever does a manual review.
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    ^^^^

    that is sheer gold and very much needed right now.
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  • Profile picture of the author 32paul52
    I am following johns formula as well, but like spoken above- I am focusing on things I can control, like the building of the site.

    These plans work well for me:

    1.Saturday- brain storm 2 niches for week
    2. Tuesday night- build first site (am using wordpress)
    3. Wed night build second site

    I the hand them to to an outsourcer to build the promotion articles, and keep moving.

    At the early stages (the first month) I check my adsense every few days, but dont worry too much about ranking- more to focus on moving forward, rather than looking at the flowers ($)

    All of the sites are making something- small at the moment- I expect google to jump up and down with them.(been around with SEO for a while...its all part of the process)

    My main reason for outsourcing was so that I keep consistantly moving- we have all been there get tired- lose interest and not keep moving.

    I asked willie crawford at a live event if he could sum up success online in one word- the answer was momentum....donald trump uses same word.

    I believe its the challenges that come up, its how we solve them amd move forward- no excuses, just keep moving......make mistakes (I have a lot of usesless domains)...just keep moving an improve while in motion.........

    Oh and keep focus.........
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  • Profile picture of the author 32paul52
    Hey guys,
    Just an idea- maybe (if your interested) getting together on mastermind group via skype to talk about what is working in this strategy - (not the niches)

    I great to network with those that are "doing"- thoughts?
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    • Profile picture of the author simonheng82
      Lets do it! Count me in.

      Simon

      Originally Posted by 32paul52 View Post

      Hey guys,
      Just an idea- maybe (if your interested) getting together on mastermind group via skype to talk about what is working in this strategy - (not the niches)

      I great to network with those that are "doing"- thoughts?
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    • Profile picture of the author Zinc Web Design
      Originally Posted by 32paul52 View Post

      Hey guys,
      Just an idea- maybe (if your interested) getting together on mastermind group via skype to talk about what is working in this strategy - (not the niches)

      I great to network with those that are "doing"- thoughts?
      Great idea, lets get this set up asap!
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    • Profile picture of the author ronb107
      Originally Posted by 32paul52 View Post

      Hey guys,
      Just an idea- maybe (if your interested) getting together on mastermind group via skype to talk about what is working in this strategy - (not the niches)

      I great to network with those that are "doing"- thoughts?
      Count me in as well. Just PM me with the Skype info and the schedule.
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    Hey Guy's,

    Awesome Idea about the skype.

    Sorry about not posting for a while. Insanely busy at work.

    PM me over the skype ID's if you guys want.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sarah Harris
      I'm definitely interested in a skype mastermind room please pm me as well!
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    I was reading clickbump's thread and now it has disappeared.

    Anyone know what happened?
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    • Profile picture of the author clickbump
      Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

      I was reading clickbump's thread and now it has disappeared.

      Anyone know what happened?
      Hi there Hamburglar. I'm not holding my breath, but I put in a support ticket to the support desk this morning to find out what happened. We had a ton of useful step by step instructional material in there. Good thing I had my tabs open overnight. I was able to archive every comment from both pages.

      I will be posting some of the step by step stuff (and have already started) in different threads over time, but it sure was convenient to have it all in one digestable thread.

      I'll keep you posted. Thanks for asking. Especially in your own thread :-)

      Back to regularly scheduled programming...
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      • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
        Originally Posted by clickbump View Post

        Hi there Hamburglar. I'm not holding my breath, but I put in a support ticket to the support desk this morning to find out what happened. We had a ton of useful step by step instructional material in there. Good thing I had my tabs open overnight. I was able to archive every comment from both pages.

        I will be posting some of the step by step stuff (and have already started) in different threads over time, but it sure was convenient to have it all in one digestable thread.

        I'll keep you posted. Thanks for asking. Especially in your own thread :-)

        Back to regularly scheduled programming...
        Click Bump,

        You are my Hero.

        Your plan in your thread is gold. No one has to go anywhere (buy Johns Ebook) or anything. Your steps are so clear cut. I am indebted to you for sharing.

        I wanted to copy and paste your info into this thread so I can refer back to it. I know it will soon get taken over by many questions that have been answered over and over again. This is what happened to John's original thread and became 30 pages of 10% real and 90% fluff.

        I am grateful for the information you have provided.
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        • Profile picture of the author sarasayshi
          I also thought your thread was most helpful clickbump. I hope they reopen it.
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          • Profile picture of the author Ethan F.
            I was also learning a lot from your thread clickbump, then I refreshed it to see if any new posts.. and poof gone like magic.
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            • Profile picture of the author simonheng82
              A small update today, after 4 weeks of of evaluation, i would like to conclude that 4 keyword phrase of domain doesnt work well in SERP ranking (at least for me).

              I have built two domain with 4 exact keyword phrase, not the one with "the" or "store" in the keyword is not ranking in the first 20 pages with 3 articles submitted to 3 different directories.

              For my future adsense venture, i will definitely ignore 4 keyword phrase domain, but only look for maximum 3 keyword phrase.

              This finding is observed from my project, if you are able to rank well with 4 keyword phrase, please feel free to share your idea or method in getting that done. Thanks.

              Simon
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              • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
                Originally Posted by simonheng82 View Post

                A small update today, after 4 weeks of of evaluation, i would like to conclude that 4 keyword phrase of domain doesnt work well in SERP ranking (at least for me).

                I have built two domain with 4 exact keyword phrase, not the one with "the" or "store" in the keyword is not ranking in the first 20 pages with 3 articles submitted to 3 different directories.

                For my future adsense venture, i will definitely ignore 4 keyword phrase domain, but only look for maximum 3 keyword phrase.

                This finding is observed from my project, if you are able to rank well with 4 keyword phrase, please feel free to share your idea or method in getting that done. Thanks.

                Simon
                I also second this motion

                I have 2 domains that are with 4 words. Do not work at all. SOC is 0 on them Search Volume exact is 6k. For some reason they don't even break the 100 barrier.

                Sticking to 3 keyword domains from now on.
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              • Profile picture of the author discrat
                Originally Posted by simonheng82 View Post

                A small update today, after 4 weeks of of evaluation, i would like to conclude that 4 keyword phrase of domain doesnt work well in SERP ranking (at least for me).

                I have built two domain with 4 exact keyword phrase, not the one with "the" or "store" in the keyword is not ranking in the first 20 pages with 3 articles submitted to 3 different directories.

                For my future adsense venture, i will definitely ignore 4 keyword phrase domain, but only look for maximum 3 keyword phrase.

                This finding is observed from my project, if you are able to rank well with 4 keyword phrase, please feel free to share your idea or method in getting that done. Thanks.

                Simon
                Are you kidding me?? 4 weeks evalaution. Try 4 years evaluation and then give me a
                call !! In all due respect , I find this notion totally inaccurate. I have 14 blogs and most of them have Keywords of 4 or more in the Domain. And they are all doing fine in the serps.

                I find what you say just not supported in my case and many others I know about.

                So I guess we agree to disagree !!
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    Hi dude, thanks for supporting my finding, hope to listen more comments from the crowd out there.

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  • Profile picture of the author stoaf88
    If they deleted your thread just so other members could make money selling your information then this forum has truly taken a turn for the worst.

    Why would they delete such a great thread with tons of info unless they don't want us to have it for free?

    Keep us updated clickbump.

    You should repost the thread on the other popular forum, I highly doubt they will delete it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Zinc Web Design
      Which thread is this?
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    • Profile picture of the author clickbump
      Originally Posted by stoaf88 View Post

      If they deleted your thread just so other members could make money selling your information then this forum has truly taken a turn for the worst.

      Why would they delete such a great thread with tons of info unless they don't want us to have it for free?

      Keep us updated clickbump.

      You should repost the thread on the other popular forum, I highly doubt they will delete it.
      To be perfectly clear, I've not insinuated that the "My first $100 dollar day on Xfactor method" thread was deleted because of the reasons you've indicated. But I understand the spirit of what you are trying to say. I don't believe that's the case.

      My sense is that someone posted something late in the evening, that got the thread removed, but I'm just speculating as well as you...

      I know there were a few members that had not participated in the thread, that posted some comments just before midnight, when I last visited the thread before morning, questioning the motives and purposes of the thread, because my sig, like a few other 1000s of people on WF, is pimping a product.

      I've opened a support ticket to get to the bottom of it, and if they answer it, and allow me to share the reasons, I certainly will.

      I'm a teacher by heart and success is best felt when shared. My feeling is that nothing is truly ours anyway, its all on loan. So sharing success is only a natural reaction to that perspective and world view.

      Anyway, I don't want to keep hijacking Hamburglers thread, but to avoid more questions on it, I hope this clears it up until I know something definitive...
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  • Profile picture of the author offrav
    4 week evaluation for a 4 exact keyword phrase is too short of a time. it takes time to get good ranking. we all just have to be patient!
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    • Profile picture of the author ronb107
      Originally Posted by offrav View Post

      4 week evaluation for a 4 exact keyword phrase is too short of a time. it takes time to get good ranking. we all just have to be patient!
      I totally agree. I am using domain names with a 3 word keyword plus an appended word (like store), and I am finding my website is slowly climbing the SERPs for my targeted keywords.

      Also, since I track all clicks to my site, I rank on the first page for long-tails that I am not targeting.

      It is way too early to judge domain name strategies with just a few articles and only a month.

      Keep in mind, driving traffic to your website is critical: the more articles submitted, forum and blog postings, RSS submissions, etc. that you create, the more back links and traffic you will get. As a result, the higher you will climb in the SERPs.
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    Grab the cached version
    My first $100 dollar day on Xfactor method site:warriorforum.com
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    • Profile picture of the author mgcstrat
      Originally Posted by WareTime View Post

      Grab the cached version
      My first $100 dollar day on Xfactor method site:warriorforum.com

      Thanks for the tip. I just pasted all the tips into Word.
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    • Profile picture of the author ronb107
      Originally Posted by WareTime View Post

      Grab the cached version
      My first $100 dollar day on Xfactor method site:warriorforum.com
      Is this the .NET vs .ORG Real World live test with XFactor method?

      Thanks.
      Ron
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      • Profile picture of the author simonheng82
        Originally Posted by discrat View Post

        Are you kidding me?? 4 weeks evalaution. Try 4 years evaluation and then give me a
        call !! In all due respect , I find this notion totally inaccurate. I have 14 blogs and most of them have Keywords of 4 or more in the Domain. And they are all doing fine in the serps.

        I find what you say just not supported in my case and many others I know about.

        So I guess we agree to disagree !!
        That is the comment that we need, some may find success with 4 word phrase and some may not, if you found the success, why dont you share the tips with us? You mentioned that you have 14 blogs that are doing well in the serp, are we talking about the exact keyword here? You further comment is highly appreciated.

        Originally Posted by ronb107 View Post

        I totally agree. I am using domain names with a 3 word keyword plus an appended word (like store), and I am finding my website is slowly climbing the SERPs for my targeted keywords.

        Also, since I track all clicks to my site, I rank on the first page for long-tails that I am not targeting.

        It is way too early to judge domain name strategies with just a few articles and only a month.

        Keep in mind, driving traffic to your website is critical: the more articles submitted, forum and blog postings, RSS submissions, etc. that you create, the more back links and traffic you will get. As a result, the higher you will climb in the SERPs.
        THanks for the advice, lets monitor since i have another 11 months to go for domain renewal

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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    I have just launched 3 new sites that with incorporating the information that clickbump had on his thread. I was trying to find the thread but I couldn't.

    Here is what he said.
    1) Search a Niche like a mad man
    2) Find anything above 2500 Exact matches
    3) Green light = if there are at least 3 PR 0 or PR -(n/a) sites in the top 10.
    4) Buy KMD, if .org or .net taken then go to step 6.
    5) Move on.

    Simple and concise. I hope I did not miss anything.

    Will post my results based on clickbumps method.
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    • Profile picture of the author clickbump
      Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

      I have just launched 3 new sites that with incorporating the information that clickbump had on his thread. I was trying to find the thread but I couldn't.

      Here is what he said.
      1) Search a Niche like a mad man
      2) Find anything above 2500 Exact matches (that has ad support)
      3) Green light = if there are at least 3 PR 0 or PR -(n/a) sites in the top 10.
      4) Buy (exact match domains only), if .org AND .net taken then go to step 5.
      5) Move on (to next site).

      Simple and concise. I hope I did not miss anything.

      Will post my results based on clickbumps method.
      Hamburglar, I think you've pretty much nailed it. I've just amended your comments with a few clarifications in bold face...

      Sorry to get here so late. Folks over at XF forums been keeping me busy (in a good kinda way)...
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      • Profile picture of the author mjnet
        nice. thanks.
        any chance for your old thread to be back? (i meant the clickbump thread) i am kicking myself for not writing down some notes. someone said to grab the cache version in google. that one i cant even get.
        anyway, you guys have been inspiring me to go the adsense right first in my plan to crack IM.
        go go go!!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Bounderby
    Yeah, you missed step 6
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    Oh I did,

    I meant step 5.
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  • Profile picture of the author stoaf88
    yea I just launched 5 sites with the clickbump method I will repost with my results as well
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  • Profile picture of the author rovad
    Try google-your-rank dot com (can't post links cuz i dont have 15 posts yet heh) fancy little tool that will save your time on finding your site keyword rankings. I have kind of a different, my own approach, because I am testing a new system which can supposedly make your site appear on 10 or even dozen keywords on Google page 1.

    I won't tell you the name for now until I verify it myself, all I can say it is not black-hat, and so far I got google page 1 for 2 keywords and google page 2 for another 2 phrases with only 13 or 14 articles submited. If I manage to get top 3-4 rankings i'll let you know.
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    • Profile picture of the author ronb107
      Have you guys formed the Skype group?

      If possible, I would like to join.

      Thanks,
      Ron
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    • Profile picture of the author lalit.burma
      Your given website is really working.

      But however search ranking is not 100% accurate. But good to know approx and near rank as well.

      Originally Posted by rovad View Post

      Try google-your-rank dot com (can't post links cuz i dont have 15 posts yet heh) fancy little tool that will save your time on finding your site keyword rankings. I have kind of a different, my own approach, because I am testing a new system which can supposedly make your site appear on 10 or even dozen keywords on Google page 1.

      I won't tell you the name for now until I verify it myself, all I can say it is not black-hat, and so far I got google page 1 for 2 keywords and google page 2 for another 2 phrases with only 13 or 14 articles submited. If I manage to get top 3-4 rankings i'll let you know.
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    • Profile picture of the author simonheng82
      Originally Posted by emsky18 View Post

      goodluck too..for your succes..
      We will be more than happy to help you if you can post a little more constructive post rather than pumping up your post counts.

      Simon
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    Great post and realistic goals...

    I"m making around $20/day, and trying to increase to $50/day....
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    • Profile picture of the author mgcstrat
      Originally Posted by tdotbaby View Post

      Great post and realistic goals...

      I"m making around $20/day, and trying to increase to $50/day....

      How many sites do you have up? How many produce and how many are duds?
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    Hey Scott,

    Would love it if it were posted in an area. I am still waiting for the results of your technique. One thing that I am most concerned with is that I have around 25 sites launched and am only doing $5/day. It has been that way since I had 10 sites. 20 are indexed and about 15 are in top 20.

    The target of reaching $50/day or $100/day seems almost impossible from where I am.

    I am now spending a crazy amount of time researching niche's. If I take my time with the niche's then hopefully everything will fall in place.

    Another thing, is Xfactor forum worth the $30? Anything of value that I cannot find here?
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    • Profile picture of the author thmgoodw
      Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

      Hey Scott,

      Would love it if it were posted in an area. I am still waiting for the results of your technique. One thing that I am most concerned with is that I have around 25 sites launched and am only doing $5/day. It has been that way since I had 10 sites. 20 are indexed and about 15 are in top 20.

      The target of reaching $50/day or $100/day seems almost impossible from where I am.

      I am now spending a crazy amount of time researching niche's. If I take my time with the niche's then hopefully everything will fall in place.

      Another thing, is Xfactor forum worth the $30? Anything of value that I cannot find here?
      Sometimes its easy to lose focus.

      Keep in mind, that all you really need is:

      (1) Traffic/Visitors (combination of keyword search volume, search engine ranking and using appropriate titles and meta descriptions);

      (2) Good CTR;

      (3) decent Cost/Click through Adsense.

      Since yu are average 25 cents per day, it seems that the issue is with #1. How many backlinks to your indexed sites do you have? For me, I consider a site wasted if it isn't on the first page of google. 2nd page is crap. Of course you want #1, but if you aren't first page you aren't going to be getting any clicks.
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  • Profile picture of the author stoaf88
    Question for Clickbump or anyone else that knows.

    Sometimes when I research a niche there may only be 1 or 2 pr0 domains in the top ten, but when I look at the results the other pages that are higher pr are not even optimized for that term.

    Like lets say the keyword is Ivory soap.

    The 2 pr0 domains will be titled Ivory soap and be optimized for that exact term but the others are saying stuff like soap or dish soap and stuff like that and I think the only reason they are in top 10 is because they are high pr and have 1 of the keywords.

    Would it be possible to break into these kind of niches?

    Or should I just move on when there are not 3 pr0/- domains?
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    • Profile picture of the author clickbump
      Originally Posted by stoaf88 View Post

      Question for Clickbump or anyone else that knows.

      Sometimes when I research a niche there may only be 1 or 2 pr0 domains in the top ten, but when I look at the results the other pages that are higher pr are not even optimized for that term.

      Like lets say the keyword is Ivory soap.

      The 2 pr0 domains will be titled Ivory soap and be optimized for that exact term but the others are saying stuff like soap or dish soap and stuff like that and I think the only reason they are in top 10 is because they are high pr and have 1 of the keywords.

      Would it be possible to break into these kind of niches?

      Or should I just move on when there are not 3 pr0/- domains?
      Your logic is sound and I would trust your instincts and go forward under these conditions. Its a roadmap with many paths that lead to the same destination (ymmv)...
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  • Profile picture of the author truewarrior
    "Find anything above 2500 Exact matches"

    so we want 2500+ or more exact matches? I'm not understanding this. I thought the lesser the better?
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    • Profile picture of the author JMartin
      Originally Posted by truewarrior View Post

      "Find anything above 2500 Exact matches"

      so we want 2500+ or more exact matches? I'm not understanding this. I thought the lesser the better?
      I don't think he means "matches" as in competition, but searches monthly.

      So, a KWP without at least 2,500 searches monthly (using "EXACT" filtering) is tossed.
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      • Profile picture of the author SladeK
        Hey guys, first of all, excellent thread.
        I just had a question regarding back links.

        When you say you are writing 15 articles for each site, are you referring to writing articles linking back to just the homepage??

        IE: if i have a site with a homepage, then 5 sub pages, would you individually be writing articles back linking to each sub page as well? or just the homepage?

        Thanks in advance!
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        • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
          Originally Posted by SladeK View Post

          Hey guys, first of all, excellent thread.
          I just had a question regarding back links.

          When you say you are writing 15 articles for each site, are you referring to writing articles linking back to just the homepage??

          IE: if i have a site with a homepage, then 5 sub pages, would you individually be writing articles back linking to each sub page as well? or just the homepage?

          Thanks in advance!
          I link to the sub pages as well. Each article has 2 links in resource box. One goes to home page and the other goes to sub page.
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  • Profile picture of the author pavionjsl
    I have a formula that may help some. Let me know if your interested.
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    • Profile picture of the author 9ball
      Originally Posted by pavionjsl View Post

      I have a formula that may help some. Let me know if your interested.
      i'm interested. please share
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  • Profile picture of the author truewarrior
    yeah please share pavionjsl, what cha got?
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  • Profile picture of the author truewarrior
    what exact phrase matches and SOC are you guys looking or have noticed produced better niches? Is there a rule of thumb for some ratio to look for, or what #'s to look for?
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  • Profile picture of the author truewarrior
    For instance:
    Global search: 5,400 Exact Phrase match: 26,300 SOC: 46
    I'm ranked #37 for my main keyword (first niche i did...only made $0.03 in 2 weeks) probably a bad niche to get into. Fighting against page rank 2, 3, + for this niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author truewarrior
    Global search: 1,300 Exact phrase: 8490 SOC:20
    I thought this niche looked juicy. I'm not even ranked for my keyword at all. out of 600 results. There's a lot of pr 0, 1 & 2 on the first 10 listings. What am I doing wrong?
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  • Profile picture of the author truewarrior
    GS: 4,400 EPM: 16,800 SOC: 9
    Ranked around 250 for main keyword (took 2 weeks)
    A couple of unranked and pr 0 on 1st page....I thought this looked great...

    Are my metrics off? any suggestions are appreciated.
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  • Profile picture of the author pavionjsl
    How To make 15K a month at AdSense
    here's how it's done:

    Start with keyword lists from adsenseheaven dot com which guesstimates the most expensive keywords to bid on in the PPC AdWords side of the Google ad world. I generally ignore the top 1000, as they are very competitive and saturated. I am not concerned with the top payouts.

    Store this data every month in a mySQL database with the previous months data, and over time I am able to see which phrases are consistently in the lists and unlikely to disappear. I call them long term performers.

    Cross check each phrase with the number of pages currently indexed in google, to see how much competition there is for a each key phrase. It's usually easier to land a top 10 first page SERP position if there is less competition for the phrase.

    Also cross check each phrase with google trends data which has an RSS feed which is also collected and stored in a seperate SQL database hourly. If an adsenseheaven keyphrase is found to appear in my Google trends history database, it's flagged as hot. If there's less than a million indexed pages it's further flagged as a top candidate for a dedicated microsite armada.

    Once a month after the new list is released analyze the data after it's been processed and I pick a shortlist of hot key phrases that I am going to ramp up over the next few weeks.

    For this lesson the phrase selected is '**** Berry'.

    The estimated cost for the top position according to the adsense heaven list is $19, and it also appears multiple times in my Google trends history data. That means It Will probably going to make at least $5 for each AdSense click, and there's a lot of people searching for it.

    Head over your favorite registrar and find a domain name which contains the keyword at the beginning of the domain. Contrary to popular belief, the gTLD is irrelevant. I find that .info works just as well as a .com with all things otherwise equal.

    Get the new domain's DNS setup, and your webserver configured. Install your favorite Open Source CMS into the Docroot and pick a nice template which looks clean. Avoid dark colored themes. Make a nice graphic for your site logo position which contains your root keyword. (yes googlebots can read keywords with OCR in your site logo images).

    You now have the framework for your microsite, and a place to put your articles.
    Now we're going to mine long tail keywords for the selected phrase to use as subjects of my microsite subpages based on the root keyphrase. I use a couple different places for this, a good one for noobs is freekeywords.wordtracker.com. Then input the root phrase '**** Berry' and save the top 50 results into a text file. For this example we will limit to the top 5 after the root.

    Quote:
    **** Berry at Wordtracker
    7,401 searches (top 100 only)
    Searches Keyword
    4679 **** berry <- ignored, it's the root phrase
    371 **** berries <- variant of root phase
    238 **** berry supreme 1
    220 **** berry information 2
    181 **** berry research 3
    149 **** berry juice 4
    125 **** berry diet 5

    You can use however many you want. The more you have, the bigger your site will be, and the more expensive it will be to ramp up.

    I outsource most of my article writing to Justin at No Doubt Marketing. I pay them around $8 for each original article, and they are not scraped together garbage. I order 1 article for each long tail keyphrase. In 12-24 hours they'll begin arriving in a steady stream to my inbox. It's not uncommon to have 25-50 articles for your project. Your goal is to build a site which contains everything someone would ever want to know about your root keyword. It's also not uncommon for me to have $500-$1000 into each microsite by the time it's done. But, I make that back in two days.

    There are lots of other article writing services out there, and there is a lot of grey area. Some are more readable than others, and the general rule is you get what you pay for. I spent a few months testing all the top ghostwriters who advertised their services on digitalpoint, and some are very bad. I do not use scraped articles or spun articles from aggregation sites like ezinearticles.

    Now you have some original high quality meat for your microsite which is truly original content and is highly targetted for each long tail keyphrase. Create a content item on your CMS for each one, putting the longtail phrase in a H1 tag, the Title, and the Meta description. Do not make the title and meta description identical or the latter will be ignored. Insert the article, and do your html markup to split it into paragraphs, and add floating divs for your google adsense and CPA offers.

    Over the course of the next few weeks, repeat this process as your longtail articles arrive. By the third week you will have a pretty large site which is very useful and informative. It doesn't read like it was written by robots.

    At the same time, you work on link building. I will look at who is already ranking for the keyphrases I am looking to rank for, and I will attempt to contact each of the webmasters. It's easy to do a whois lookup on a domain (firefox has a plugin to do it from serp pages) and fire off an email to them. If they have a working phone number listed (they are required to) give them a call. I have a vonage account so I get unlimited long distance. I also have a telemarketing background so I am good at cold calling webmasters and socially engineering them into adding links.

    You will mostly get voicemails, so leave a nice message which is very brief and explains you have a relevant website which wants to become link partners. When you get the webmaster on the phone live, tell him how great their website is, how you added a link to it on your blogroll, and how it would help their rankings to link to your related site which is full of good content.
    Some people will tell you to go screw yourself, so you just move on. There are going to be hundreds of thousands of other sites to contact, so don't spend too much time with each one. I will ask them for their AIM handles so I can keep track of them. (did I mention I create a new AIM/Gmail for each new microsite?)

    There are lots of other ways to get links. I've tried most of them, and they all work. You can donate money to open source organizations which have a 'thank you' page. Most of them will include a link if your donation is over a certain threshhold. Check for nofollows and disallows in the robots.txt first.

    You can do a google blog search for your keyword and post an on topic comment which contains a single link to your homepage. Most places will leave your comment in the moderation cue forever, but others will publish it. You have a better chance of your comment getting published if your comment contains the keywords they are trying to rank for. Blog owners don't want comments that throw their keyword density off.

    You can search for forum posts using google which contain your keyword in the title tags and post a useful something into the thread. Don't just spam your URL or clearly it's going to get removed. It's also a good idea to make a few posts in other threads before you do any link dropping so you don't have 1 post when you do it

    There is roughly 260 million websites which will give you a free blog. Create a new one everyday somewhere new and make a couple posts about your keyphrases. You can take snippits out of your articles and rewrite them into blog posts, or even purchase some of that 'low quality' filler articles I spoke of earlier and use that for your free blogs. Be sure to choose good anchors when linking to your main moneysite.

    The bottom line is get as many links as you can, and spread them out as far apart as you can. You don't want to get too many links in a day or it will appear unnatural. So take your time, and work a little bit on each microsite every day. Try to make sure every microsite gets at least one quality inlink every single day from somewhere.

    One final observation: The longer a Google AdSense unit has been deployed, the more it's worth. Some of my top performing units are several years old. I think after a certain time they're internally flagged and start to show the top paying ads.

    Doug 12-23-2008 at BHW . Thank you for reminding me, copy pasted with out name.
    This guy makes a solid 15000 a month, but in the later part of the discussion it becomes clear.

    1. Keyword research

    2. Content - Good stuff not crap

    3. SEO site correctly

    $. The usual rinse and repeat
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    • Profile picture of the author 9ball
      i think i already read this from BHW
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      • Profile picture of the author Shellfish
        Would be nice if you gave credit to Doug for his post of 12-23-2008 at BHW.
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      • Profile picture of the author 9ball
        1. i read clickbump thread and follow his advice
        2. I found keyword with 8100 exact searches, 3 PR 0 or PR -(n/a) sites in the top 10.
        3. 14 november i buy exact domain with net TLD
        4. yesterday my blog indexed by google
        5. my adsense todays earning $1,73 (all from my new blog, before this day my highest is 0,12:p)

        thanks clickbump, maybe i just got lucky but i'll repeat the process
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  • Profile picture of the author truewarrior
    so you don't pay attention to SOC or Exact Phrase Count in MNF?
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    • Profile picture of the author 9ball
      i just use free Google Keyword Tool and check the top SERP manually
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  • Profile picture of the author pavionjsl
    I thought it was one of the best written guides ever. Guy does 15000 a month for real. Lot of work, and investment in time and money.
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  • Profile picture of the author pavionjsl
    Tell you all something else, it is mind blowing what you get here as a member........spend the 37.00 bucks......
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  • Profile picture of the author truewarrior
    i just found a great niche, but has only 6 advertisers (in spyfu)...is that enough for ad support, or move on to the next niche? i know it should be 15-20 ideally...
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    • Profile picture of the author Shellfish
      Plug it into google and check. Spyfu sometimes shows nothing yet there are 10-20 in google.
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    • Profile picture of the author JMartin
      Originally Posted by truewarrior View Post

      i just found a great niche, but has only 6 advertisers (in spyfu)...is that enough for ad support, or move on to the next niche? i know it should be 15-20 ideally...
      Spyfu is nice and all, but your own eyes work better.

      You should do a search and look to see what ads are actually showing up. If it's 6-10 highly unrelated ads, people aren't going to click.

      Also, if possible, click on a handful of sites in the SERPS and see if you can find sites with AdSense on them to see what ads are showing up, what stuff is being talked about, etc.

      I pass on KWPs all day that I find where I could rank for them easily because the commercial intent and $$$ isn't there.
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  • Profile picture of the author shizey
    Even though I did register here about a year ago I never gave the site enough attention. *hic* Now I know better. Go on we are with you all the way...
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    I am getting way too caught up in not making any $$ recently. Surely I thought I would be hitting at least $20/day. I have 25 websites indexed and yet only make $5/day as I did since the end of last month. Moving on to the next site is becoming difficult because you never have any idea of how well it will rank.

    Anyone else encounter this or is it just me?
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    • Profile picture of the author GazD
      Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

      I am getting way too caught up in not making any $$ recently. Surely I thought I would be hitting at least $20/day. I have 25 websites indexed and yet only make $5/day as I did since the end of last month. Moving on to the next site is becoming difficult because you never have any idea of how well it will rank.

      Anyone else encounter this or is it just me?
      Have you taken a look at the sites that are not ranking well vs your sites that are, and noticed any different between them and their competitors?

      There are a lot of unknowns when launching a new site, don't sweat them too much and become frozen.

      One thing that I use when trading stocks is to keep a log, and write down why I was making the trade, what do I like it about. Then I come back when the trade was either a success or a failure and write down what went wrong or right. I then go back through this log every so often and always refresh myself on mistakes I made and things that worked well for me.

      The same can be done when launching a site in a niche. Write down why you are doing it, competitor stats, any thing specific you are trying as far as SEO, how you went about building backlinks, etc. Then a week, 2weeks, a month later check out the site and see how well it worked out and take notes. Review your notes and Im sure you'll find some valuable information each time you do.
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    • Profile picture of the author jimfurr
      Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

      I am getting way too caught up in not making any $$ recently. Surely I thought I would be hitting at least $20/day. I have 25 websites indexed and yet only make $5/day as I did since the end of last month. Moving on to the next site is becoming difficult because you never have any idea of how well it will rank.

      Anyone else encounter this or is it just me?
      Don't let stuff get ya down, this takes time, give it that time it needs.

      Here is a very modest plan that can get you to where you want to go:

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      If I can:

      Build 100 sites,

      All 1 page of content

      All averaging 50 cents a day, ($15 monthly).

      Outsource 2 articles per site @ $3 ea. (300 words each)

      Use 1 article for website content, Use the other article for EZA

      100 sites would cost me about $1370
      (100 DN's=$770 + 200 articles=$600 Total=$1370)

      Return on investment $1500 monthly
      ($0.50 x 30 x 100 = $1500 - after 1 or two months)

      Then do 1 maintenance article every month for each website, ($300 mo. cost)

      Of course - if a website does well, (the exception), add pages and more back links, etc.

      ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

      $1500 monthly for such little work and small investment is unheard of outside of the internet marketing world.

      Sell each site at the end of 12 months for $15 x 10 = $150 each, $150 x 100 = $15,000 gross.
      (this is After having generated $1500 monthly for 12 months)


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      I posted this on xFactors Forum first.

      With ClickBumps methods, you don't
      even have to write/buy articles
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexchan338
    THis is a vvery nice goal you have here. Keep up the work. Dont give up!
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  • Profile picture of the author simonheng82
    HI Hamburglar, dont give up yet, you have just started since 1 month back and making $5 per day is already good enough, do you know that the folks out there even not able to make $0.05 per day.
    My 0.02 is, you should continue to build backlink and get your site rank well, i am pretty sure that not more than 10 out of your 25 are in the first page? You should stop building new one and optimize the SERP.

    I just build a blog to record my road to adsense success journey, i will never give up until i hit $100 per day. If the folks out there are able to make it, why dont us!

    Keep it rolling dude, please!

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    • Profile picture of the author Si_P
      Just keep at it and don't give up. Just make sure all your sites are SEO'd and focus on that instead of trying to fire out loads of sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author josspam
    This is my first website -> josspamDOTblogspotDOTcom - What tips would you give to make it bigger and make some profit of it.

    I have it for quiet a while now but just begingin to think of getting something of it.

    Jocy
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  • Profile picture of the author simonheng82
    HI Josspam, this thread is all talking about the xfactors method with micro niche site. You may need to post your question to other thread unless you want to join us with xfactor course here.

    Simon
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    Hey guys,

    Thank you very much for the support. I am not going to Give Up. I can't! been too long.

    I took Gazd's advice and made notes on my current domains. I am going to concentrate on SERP and building backlinks. Any page that is not in top 20 will be forgotten.

    Gonna make a list of good sites Tonight.
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  • Profile picture of the author JMartin
    Hamburglar,

    You might want to take a step back and look at why you're selecting the KWPs you do. Perhaps you should increase your minimums as far as searches and cash go. Also, take a little time and think about the KWP before jumping into it. Is it something people really want (buyers)? Is the KWP a whole KWP or in reality a part of another.

    An example of this might be "coffee maker." Seems nice, but if people are really searching for "Brand X coffee maker" and "espresso coffee maker" and "coffee maker filters" and "coffee maker recipes" or whatever, then that KWP is far too broad and will actually have money issues. You may even have a #1 listing, but since the listing isn't targeted to what the searcher wants, it's #2 who will get the most clicks.

    Here's a personal example. This week I spent roughly 20 hours (so far) researching for 2-3 site possibilities. Sure I could have spent an hour and came up with 10 "insert product here" or "insert info here" sites that I could rank for and had a decent amount of searches, but I don't build sites just because I can.

    I took all those lower level KWPs that met my previous minimum criteria for searches/cpc/SEOC (or SOC) and filed em away and keep moving on. Instead I'm looking for KWPs that meet my new increased criteria. Yes, it can take a little longer to find them, but they are there.

    I guess the point is this: rather than stopping your research and jumping in the pool when you hit a KWP that "works," spend more time looking for a bigger piece of gold that you can carry.

    If you're going to build say 3 sites in a week, reserve your buying/building until later in the week. Spend the first 2-3 days of the week doing crazy research to find the KWPs with the highest search/$$ to ranking ratio (that look solid from a buying standpoint) and roll with those.
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  • Profile picture of the author m4ster
    I'm going through almost the same problems. I'm building up more websites - but my income remains the same.... And that's kinda frustrating.

    I like to think that everything will be fine after some time. I don't know... Maybe we are supposed to go through that. Anyway, failure is not an option for me. I will earn at least 50$ a day this time next year. I will work hard - but I'll get there.
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  • Profile picture of the author 32paul52
    Hamburglar,

    My 2 cents would be to have a look at where the money is coming from - From john (xfactors) course he didnt just build 1 site in a market, but where he saw cash- he build more for the same market eg: "Puppy toys" site makes money- build another for "black puppy toys" -

    At the same time- dont spend too long in "analysis mode" - can slow your momentum- just relize that johns course is about "throwing mud at the wall" and seeing whats sticks....some will take time and what you are feeling is normal.....

    Let me know if still up for Skype mastermind group: skype id: digitalawol
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  • Profile picture of the author simonheng82
    i hope you are still remember that i have 2 domains with 4 word phrase with "the" and "store" at the front and back of the keyword.

    Submitted 11 articles (5 different article directories) and did 10 angela backlinks for each of them, still no where to be found

    Hope to get some advice from the expert here.

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    • Profile picture of the author JasonP
      Originally Posted by simonheng82 View Post

      i hope you are still remember that i have 2 domains with 4 word phrase with "the" and "store" at the front and back of the keyword.

      Submitted 11 articles (5 different article directories) and did 10 angela backlinks for each of them, still no where to be found

      Hope to get some advice from the expert here.

      Simon

      Sign up for google webmaster tools with those sites, and submit sitemaps. It will index you pretty quickly.
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      • Profile picture of the author simonheng82
        Hi Jason, the problem is not about indexing, the site is indexed with all 4 pages listed in the search result, is just that it is not ranked with the targeted keyword....


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        • Profile picture of the author sarasayshi
          Originally Posted by simonheng82 View Post

          Hi Jason, the problem is not about indexing, the site is indexed with all 4 pages listed in the search result, is just that it is not ranked with the targeted keyword....


          Simon
          Simon, don't fret over your domains with 4 keywords. I have noticed those are a lot harder to rank. You are better off not wasting time with this right now and just look for 3 keyword phrases to build new sites. Once you find more success in easily ranking the 3 word phrases then you can go back and nurse your 4 keyword phrase sites.

          This method is about building up more and more sites to boost your income. It has been a difficult lesson after lesson for my mistakes I have made by adding in an additional word to my domain name or getting too low of monthly search counts and of course the biggie of overlooking competition even when MNF gave me the green light.

          Just keep moving forward and don't dwell on the semi-failure sites right now. It is no different with John's method as it is with many income building systems, some sites will do very well and others will sink before they ever make it to the surface.
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          • Profile picture of the author 32paul52
            Originally Posted by sarasayshi View Post

            Simon, don't fret over your domains with 4 keywords. I have noticed those are a lot harder to rank. You are better off not wasting time with this right now and just look for 3 keyword phrases to build new sites. Once you find more success in easily ranking the 3 word phrases then you can go back and nurse your 4 keyword phrase sites.

            This method is about building up more and more sites to boost your income. It has been a difficult lesson after lesson for my mistakes I have made by adding in an additional word to my domain name or getting too low of monthly search counts and of course the biggie of overlooking competition even when MNF gave me the green light.

            Just keep moving forward and don't dwell on the semi-failure sites right now. It is no different with John's method as it is with many income building systems, some sites will do very well and others will sink before they ever make it to the surface.

            Agree totally- its easy to waste hours on one site, trying to push it up- move on get some more numbers and go forward...... otherwise you have a lot of wasted time, checking ranking etc, which chews into productivity...some will some wont.....momentum........
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    • Profile picture of the author LadyL08
      I've been reading this post since the beginning and lately have gotten frustrated at myself because I've been watching everybody else's success and not doing what I need to do.

      And yes, as small as it may seem, you are having success! Keep in mind that IM is not an overnight thing (for the majority of us.) It is not a couple of months success story either. My overall game plan is that if I can put up 2 sites a week that consistently make 1 dollar a day, then after one year I'll have 100 sites - that's $100 dollars a day. Anything over that is gravy.

      I've been watching you guys who are consistently putting up your sites and it is great that they are making a couple dollars a day. Keep adding. Aren't you in it for the long haul. There are so many people on this forum who have had adsense sites up for years and still haven't gotten a check from Google.

      I have about 8 html adsense sites. All have at least two pages of content. I consistenly make $2 to $3 dollars a day and most of my sites don't even rank in the top 100. My focus now is to submit 10 articles for each site to get them up in the rankings so the sites can get traffic not my articles.

      KEEP WORKING EVERYONE - IT WILL COME!
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      • Profile picture of the author ronb107
        Originally Posted by LadyL08 View Post

        I've been reading this post since the beginning and lately have gotten frustrated at myself because I've been watching everybody else's success and not doing what I need to do.

        And yes, as small as it may seem, you are having success! Keep in mind that IM is not an overnight thing (for the majority of us.) It is not a couple of months success story either. My overall game plan is that if I can put up 2 sites a week that consistently make 1 dollar a day, then after one year I'll have 100 sites - that's $100 dollars a day. Anything over that is gravy.

        I've been watching you guys who are consistently putting up your sites and it is great that they are making a couple dollars a day. Keep adding. Aren't you in it for the long haul. There are so many people on this forum who have had adsense sites up for years and still haven't gotten a check from Google.

        I have about 8 html adsense sites. All have at least two pages of content. I consistenly make $2 to $3 dollars a day and most of my sites don't even rank in the top 100. My focus now is to submit 10 articles for each site to get them up in the rankings so the sites can get traffic not my articles.

        KEEP WORKING EVERYONE - IT WILL COME!
        Good job LadyL08.

        I assume that your traffic is from your articles (if you're not ranking on the SERPs)? And this is all from Google Adsense?

        Thanks for sharing
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    Ad sense is called traffic business if you can bring traffic on your site you will get success
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  • Profile picture of the author truewarrior
    I have 3 sites that were ranked now POOF it's gone...I know it's the google dance thang, but do you guys have any recommendations what I should do to make sure to get the ranking back again?
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  • Profile picture of the author 32paul52
    Truewarrior,
    Its noraml (almosted expected) - New content appears in the index- ranks, because it is new- the settles back down to nowhere.....

    Build backlinks, keep going, -No Gurantees......But action is the cure, and expect this happen again and again....age is they only cure.....all part of the game and understanding how it works..............

    Dont expect stability till around the year make........sorry no quick million dollars here..........
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  • Profile picture of the author simonheng82
    Hi sarasayshi, thanks for reminding me again Appreciate that.

    Yesterday, i hit the highest adsense that i have ever earned, $17.8 in a single day Almost every sites had 1 click and even article submitted to directories to also generate the clicks, although the sites are in the page 3 onwards and even no where to be found I love article marketing (articleblast is my favourite)

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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    Hey Guys,

    Simon. That is excellent. Wohoo!!1 My highest has been $11.68 yesterday.

    A bit of sad news: one of my sites got de-indexed. It was on page one and now when you search "site:domainname.com" it does not exist.

    I do not know how to recover from the de-index.

    SIMON!! WOOOHOOOO!!
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    • Profile picture of the author simonheng82
      Hey dude, that is my biggest earning in my adsense journey since 2 years back, it will be excellent if it can hit that figure everyday But it doesnt, now my average earning per day is about $5-6, i am in the stage of building backlink by submitting articles and submit my site to web directories.

      About your site deindexed thingy, how old is that site? Probably is part of google dance? But GD will not deindex site right? What about trying to resubmit the site through www.google.com/addurl/? Just try it out. Good luck!

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    • Profile picture of the author 32paul52
      Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

      Hey Guys,

      Simon. That is excellent. Wohoo!!1 My highest has been $11.68 yesterday.

      A bit of sad news: one of my sites got de-indexed. It was on page one and now when you search "site:domainname.com" it does not exist.

      I do not know how to recover from the de-index.

      SIMON!! WOOOHOOOO!!

      Hey- Way to go Hamburglar - Keep Going. I have had sites de-indexed as well a while back- You can submit for a "Google reconsideration process"- I did it 6 months ago- totally rebuild the site, took off affiliate links, added more content, even told them what I did wrong. Never heard back from them and just moved on. I have never had a wordpress site de-indexed.

      I also had another do the same - I moved it to a different hosting (a service which also pulled fresh content from twitter, utube etc)

      The domain go reindexed about a month later.

      In this business people are looking for step by step path to follow, how ever I think each site is treated differently- Xfactors plan is a Guide (his words) there is no exact plan when it comes to how google works with the site.......... every site is different.....
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        Has anyone tried to change the ezine author section after an article is published? I'm thinkig it shouldn't be a problem, do they need to review my article to get it approved for author section change?
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          Originally Posted by truewarrior View Post

          Has anyone tried to change the ezine author section after an article is published? I'm thinkig it shouldn't be a problem, do they need to review my article to get it approved for author section change?
          I've done this, and the article goes offline, then takes 3-7days to get reapproved.
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      • Profile picture of the author XFactor
        Originally Posted by 32paul52 View Post


        In this business people are looking for step by step path to follow, how ever I think each site is treated differently- Xfactors plan is a Guide (his words) there is no exact plan when it comes to how google works with the site.......... every site is different.....
        Exactly, I always say to my customers to use my guide as a base, while
        adding your own twists and turns along the way.

        In my next course update I'm even going to go into finding non-product
        niches, high paying niches, and big site advice.

        It all works - just be confident.

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  • Profile picture of the author pons_saravanan
    Hi hamburglar

    I am reading internetmarketer99's,and your forums. I have not finished all responses from your thread.

    In the mean while i am researching a keyword which has the following

    From Google Keyword Tool
    LSV 3,600 and Global 2,400

    From Google Traffic Tool

    Estimated Avg. CPC : $1.41 - $2.03
    Estimated Cost / Day : $1 - $2

    Competition
    first page one PR4 at 4th position
    rest are below 4.
    wikipedia at first position for few keywords in main keywords

    Do you consider this keyword.

    I am going to use this as an experiment to learn how things are going.
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    • Profile picture of the author simonheng82
      Hi saravanan, we are neighbour (Sg and Mas)

      While awaiting for Hamburglar to answer your question.......

      I will skip for this keyword if i see a wikipedia post with this keyword, further more there are PR4 and "PR4 and below" post (i assume they are PR2-3?) in the first page.....With that amount of searches, you can get more keywords that are worth your time to work on.......but is all up to you if you are going to treat this as an experiment.

      One more advice is, never go for keyword with 4 words in length. Some may find success with this, but at least me and hamburglar dont....

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    • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
      Originally Posted by pons_saravanan View Post

      Hi hamburglar

      I am reading internetmarketer99's,and your forums. I have not finished all responses from your thread.

      In the mean while i am researching a keyword which has the following

      From Google Keyword Tool
      LSV 3,600 and Global 2,400

      From Google Traffic Tool

      Estimated Avg. CPC : $1.41 - $2.03
      Estimated Cost / Day : $1 - $2

      Competition
      first page one PR4 at 4th position
      rest are below 4.
      wikipedia at first position for few keywords in main keywords

      Do you consider this keyword.

      I am going to use this as an experiment to learn how things are going.
      Hey,

      The search volume is great. However, I do not look at the google CPC. I go to Spyfu and look for at least .50 cent Minimum.

      I also look for (using clickbumps method):

      1) At least 3 pr 0 or pr N/A.
      2) At least 2500 Search Volume.

      Is this keyword a product? Does not sound like it if wikipedia is there. One thing you want to understand is the searches mental thought. When they search for X, what do they truly want/need?

      I gear all my sites towards ready to buy products.

      I hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author pons_saravanan
    thank you for your great response in Lightning speed. It is a actually a type of product. Shall I PM you more details on that?

    I am just validating myself whether my keyword selections research is going in a right direction or not. I will check spyfu now for more information.

    I finished reading ClickBumps thread yesterday only. So now started researching on keywords.

    I have already done big mistakes on my websites without reading valuable information here. So i do not wish to repeat any more.
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  • Profile picture of the author pons_saravanan
    Hi further updates as you advised me.
    The cost per click is $0.58 - $1.81 in SpyFu for my keywords.
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  • Profile picture of the author rbecklund
    For getting a rough estimate for CPC I use Spyfu and take the average amount (find it in the little graph on the right of the screen, hover your mouse over the middle area of the graph and it will show the current and historic average). I take that and multiply by 20%, I've found that gets me pretty close to my actual per click averages, so I feel that's a realistic number to use. Google's amounts are way off, same with MNF.

    Great thread Hamburglar - Thanks!!

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    • Profile picture of the author pons_saravanan
      I have just checked few keywords in spyfu. It says it has 740 searches but daily clicks as 1. so daily for 740 searches we can expect only 1 click. Is this normal. Can we conclude that any keyword in this niche will behave something like this.
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      • Profile picture of the author truewarrior
        so i found a potential niche for my adsense site, but i want to be sure i'm not stepping on google's toes..it has sexual content and is a product i see roughly 10 google ads...i know google strives to create family friendly searches, but this isn't explicit in nature...will google frown upon me?
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    Today is going to be the highest earning day ever for me.

    I just hit $12.

    I have not used MNF for my last 5 sites. 3 of them are on page one and raking in some good money.

    I am using ClickBump's method of at least 3 pr 0's and also combination of inanchor, intitle and inurl.

    My design: have gone 100% away from xfactor now. I loved his design as a starting point but now have a new template that converts 50 - 66%. Don't quote me just yet. I am waiting for at least 1000 impressions on that design to conclude properly.

    Gotta keep pushing. I almost gave up this weekend. Patience and Persistence is key for this.
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    • Profile picture of the author truewarrior
      you have been doing so well....why did you want to give up?

      I just hit $2.48 yesterday...the day previous was $0.00. I wanted to give up myself...
      but i'm still in the game
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    • Profile picture of the author pons_saravanan
      Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

      Today is going to be the highest earning day ever for me.

      I just hit $12.

      I have not used MNF for my last 5 sites. 3 of them are on page one and raking in some good money.

      I am using ClickBump's method of at least 3 pr 0's and also combination of inanchor, intitle and inurl.

      My design: have gone 100% away from xfactor now. I loved his design as a starting point but now have a new template that converts 50 - 66%. Don't quote me just yet. I am waiting for at least 1000 impressions on that design to conclude properly.

      Gotta keep pushing. I almost gave up this weekend. Patience and Persistence is key for this.
      Hi
      Great hamburglar, i glad you got 12$/day. Can you help me to figure out why my website is not getting atleast few clicks per day?.

      I have around 800 visitors and 1000+ visits per day. But i am getting one or two clicks. Most of the days there is no click at all. I have asked the same question in few forums. But the answer is vistors are tech saavy so they dont click advertisements.

      Can you please advise me what to do?
      Page:Freeze GridView Columns

      I am already started using CPM ads from another provider.
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      • Profile picture of the author 2d0k
        Originally Posted by pons_saravanan View Post

        Hi
        Great hamburglar, i glad you got 12$/day. Can you help me to figure out why my website is not getting atleast few clicks per day?.

        I have around 800 visitors and 1000+ visits per day. But i am getting one or two clicks. Most of the days there is no click at all. I have asked the same question in few forums. But the answer is vistors are tech saavy so they dont click advertisements.

        Can you please advise me what to do?
        Page:Freeze GridView Columns

        I am already started using CPM ads from another provider.
        A little piece of advice.. your square ad's font color in the upper left corner is blue.. i suggest that you change the color to a darker gray or dirty white to blend with the rest of your web page's contents..
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        • Profile picture of the author pons_saravanan
          thank you for taking your time to review and advice.


          Let me try today and i will update here the results
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          • Profile picture of the author 2d0k
            Originally Posted by pons_saravanan View Post

            thank you for taking your time to review and advice.


            Let me try today and i will update here the results
            you're very much welcome.
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      • Profile picture of the author indie08
        Originally Posted by pons_saravanan View Post

        Hi
        Great hamburglar, i glad you got 12$/day. Can you help me to figure out why my website is not getting atleast few clicks per day?.

        I have around 800 visitors and 1000+ visits per day. But i am getting one or two clicks. Most of the days there is no click at all. I have asked the same question in few forums. But the answer is vistors are tech saavy so they dont click advertisements.

        Can you please advise me what to do?
        Page:Freeze GridView Columns

        I am already started using CPM ads from another provider.
        How are you doing with adsense?
        My advise is to make your blue links grey and your ad text black. They still stand out too much. Hope this helps....
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        • Profile picture of the author pons_saravanan
          Originally Posted by indie08 View Post

          How are you doing with adsense?
          My advise is to make your blue links grey and your ad text black. They still stand out too much. Hope this helps....
          Hi indie
          Thanks for your advice. I am not doing well with adsense. Though i am getting one click every day(or 20-30 clicks monthly). This is better than 5 clicks/month.

          I am waiting to draw the conclusion on the blue link. I am watching without touching the adsense format/color/font size for the past two weeks(almost). Then i am going to change it to dark gray and let me see what is going to happen.
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    • Profile picture of the author simonheng82
      Hi Dude, you really announce a great news and enlighten everybody here, i am also glad that your fire is still burning!

      Yes, work towards the goal and never give up until you got success That is what i always tell myself.....BTW, i have 40 sites now, 25 out of them are within first 20 results, 15 are falls between third page to sixth page, still working hard to submit article, but recently always stuck with EA and few of my articles are rejected because of grammar error (English is not my primary language). But i diverted those rejected articles to other directories, at least it still get me some credits.

      Average earning per day is $4 per day, and going to cash out via Western Union end of this month, about $230 Keep up the good work and stay focused!!

      Simon

      Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

      Today is going to be the highest earning day ever for me.

      I just hit $12.

      I have not used MNF for my last 5 sites. 3 of them are on page one and raking in some good money.

      I am using ClickBump's method of at least 3 pr 0's and also combination of inanchor, intitle and inurl.

      My design: have gone 100% away from xfactor now. I loved his design as a starting point but now have a new template that converts 50 - 66%. Don't quote me just yet. I am waiting for at least 1000 impressions on that design to conclude properly.

      Gotta keep pushing. I almost gave up this weekend. Patience and Persistence is key for this.
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    Stay focussed. That is the real key and do not follow all the rabbits that cross your path.
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  • Profile picture of the author bobnolan
    I used clickbump's method, and every site I registered in the past week made it in the first page. No Micro Niche Finder or Market Samurai used.

    I definitely say stick with clickbump's method.
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    • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
      Originally Posted by bobnolan View Post

      I used clickbump's method, and every site I registered in the past week made it in the first page. No Micro Niche Finder or Market Samurai used.

      I definitely say stick with clickbump's method.
      Amen to that.

      I have lost faith in MNF. I actually want a refund because I have only used it 5 times and its so slow on my computer. Keeps Crashing as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author truewarrior
    what's your update hamburglar? I'm hoping you went up another tier!
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  • Profile picture of the author Oliver Allen
    Can someone tell me that if I create a wordpress blog with adsense ads on it and then optimize the heck out of it good keywords will this be a good venture?
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  • Profile picture of the author erwindegrave
    This is inspiring. I never thought that any one would have this courage and humility to post like this.. Good job!

    I would love to get track about your experience.. Don't forget to create videos about your performance because those videos can be used as products once you've started creating a "HOW TO MAKE MONEY" video series :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    So an update:

    On saturday I hit my highest earning ever!
    $27!!!

    It is very inspiring that I went that high. I wish I could do that every day. Overtime I will.

    The cool thing is that I have not built any backlinks to my site, I am planning on building some backlinks this weekend.

    My avg earnings for this month is $14/day.
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    • Profile picture of the author SladeK
      Wow, very nice.

      How many sites are you up to now?

      I have 4 currently that are indexed and am averaging about $.75 /day.

      slow but steady...
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    • Profile picture of the author JMartin
      Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

      So an update:

      On saturday I hit my highest earning ever!
      $27!!!

      It is very inspiring that I went that high. I wish I could do that every day. Overtime I will.

      The cool thing is that I have not built any backlinks to my site, I am planning on building some backlinks this weekend.

      My avg earnings for this month is $14/day.
      That is awesome man!

      I keep reading your stuff and am glad to see your pennies day turn into dollars days.

      Good luck in 2010!
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    • Profile picture of the author Sowemimo Oladele
      Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

      So an update:

      On saturday I hit my highest earning ever!
      $27!!!

      It is very inspiring that I went that high. I wish I could do that every day. Overtime I will.

      The cool thing is that I have not built any backlinks to my site, I am planning on building some backlinks this weekend.

      My avg earnings for this month is $14/day.
      I have lost track on this thread before, guys thanks for updating us on your progress !!!
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  • Profile picture of the author raphael7
    Great hamburglar

    How many sites do you have now
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    I have about 25 websites.

    Only about 15 are ranking high. I have my 6th sense for keywords fine tuned. Also finding new niche's is very easy.

    Just finding the ones with good CTR is hard.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary Becks
    Congratulations on your progress hambrglar. This thread is very inspiring as I am attempting to build a steady income with adsense also. I have 4 sites, all with the keywords in the domain. Each has 20 articles pointing back to them, and have been social bookmarked at 20 sites, not to mention blog posting. However, None of my sites show up in any google serps.

    I am not a pro at web design so I use a wysiwyg editor to design my sites. Does this have a major impact on SEO? could this be my problem?:confused:

    If so do you have any pointers. Any advise would be appreciated...
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    • Profile picture of the author simonheng82
      hi embions, would you mind to disclose the keyword analysis data (i.e. soc, exact match etc)? Having keyword in the domain doesnt really means that you could rank well, based on my own research, a keyword with the following criteria works well:

      not more than 4 words
      soc <20
      exact match competition <10,000

      Just a small update on my progress, i have hit USD11 to USD14 in the past 1 week consistently, still working on submitting articles to directories and will update again after 2 weeks (2nd stage of my project-submit article).....

      Good luck!

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    • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
      Originally Posted by Embions View Post

      Congratulations on your progress hambrglar. This thread is very inspiring as I am attempting to build a steady income with adsense also. I have 4 sites, all with the keywords in the domain. Each has 20 articles pointing back to them, and have been social bookmarked at 20 sites, not to mention blog posting. However, None of my sites show up in any google serps.

      I am not a pro at web design so I use a wysiwyg editor to design my sites. Does this have a major impact on SEO? could this be my problem?:confused:

      If so do you have any pointers. Any advise would be appreciated...
      A lot of people have the same problem. I think the root of this problem is the keywords you are optimizing for. Are they competitive by nature? What is your current method of understanding competition and ranking.

      My first 3 sites went to ****s. I thought I knew what worked and what didnt. I spent 3 weeks building content and backlinks. They never broke the first 100 page listing. But after that I started to learn how ranking works and keywords.

      Keyword Research is critical for any adsense/cpa success
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary Becks
    In one of the niches that I am concentrating on the amount of monthly searches is 5400 with an SOC of 12. The exact phrase count according to MNF is 7800. Google has 460,000 pages for the keywords that I am targeting. I have submitted 10 articles to ezines for this site, (6 have been approved), 5 to goarticles, and 5 to articlebiz. I have bookmarked to 20 sites, and about 7 or 8 blog comments.

    I am really kind of lost as to what to do next because all of my sites pretty much meet the same criteria as this one, I always focus on building sites with an SOC of less than 20 (preferably 15) some are as low as 4, and exact phrase match of less than 10,000 (one of my sites has an exact phrase match of only 736 and the SOC is only 2!) but I am still not ranking for these keywords but the domain name I purchased has 5 words in it, is that too many?:confused:

    I can't help but think that the problem may be in the site design/on page SEO. I have read that using a wysiwyg design can be bad because of the overuse of tables. The three sites that I am working on are only two weeks old though. I am just wondering if anyone has any tips?

    Should I change the software that I am using? (I use coffeecup), build more backlinks? ect. Thanks alot....
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    • Profile picture of the author SladeK
      Originally Posted by Embions View Post

      I am really kind of lost as to what to do next because all of my sites pretty much meet the same criteria as this one, I always focus on building sites with an SOC of less than 20 (preferably 15) some are as low as 4, and exact phrase match of less than 10,000 (one of my sites has an exact phrase match of only 736 and the SOC is only 2!) but I am still not ranking for these keywords but the domain name I purchased has 5 words in it, is that too many?:confused:
      I have seen multiple posts on here saying to avoid buying domains with more than 3 words in them when making micro niche sites because they are harder to rank for. I am not completely sure why, and I am simply stating that I have seen it posted a few times around this forum.

      In my personal experience, I have 5 sites up with 3 word domains that indexed within a week; all initially ranked within the top 10.

      On the other hand, I have 2 sites with 5 word domains that are indexed, but nowhere to be found in the SERPS. These phrases had less competition than my 3 word phrases that ranked within the top 10 in under a week.

      So I now stay away from domain names that have more than 3 words for ranking in ,less competitive niches. Just my two cents...
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      • Profile picture of the author Gary Becks
        Originally Posted by SladeK View Post

        I have seen multiple posts on here saying to avoid buying domains with more than 3 words in them when making micro niche sites because they are harder to rank for. I am not completely sure why, and I am simply stating that I have seen it posted a few times around this forum.

        In my personal experience, I have 5 sites up with 3 word domains that indexed within a week; all initially ranked within the top 10.

        On the other hand, I have 2 sites with 5 word domains that are indexed, but nowhere to be found in the SERPS. These phrases had less competition than my 3 word phrases that ranked within the top 10 in under a week.

        So I now stay away from domain names that have more than 3 words for ranking in ,less competitive niches. Just my two cents...
        Well luckily I only have the 1 website that has that many words in it. But as for the others I am still not completely sure. I'm thinking of maybe trying a different approach to building my sites though. I checked to see if any backlinks appeared for my sites and according to yahoo each of them only has two, although I know that I did about 50 for each. Maybe this is the problem I am having, how long does it usually take for backlinks to show up?
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  • Profile picture of the author wizlor
    Hi hamburglar,

    Can share with us, what kind of backlinks method you think its worth doing??
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    • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
      Originally Posted by wizlor View Post

      Hi hamburglar,

      Can share with us, what kind of backlinks method you think its worth doing??
      I am buying high quality back-links and doing little bit of article marketing.

      I tried link juicer, but my site actually disappeared from the serps.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Gavre
    I have no issues with ranking a website consisting of more than 3 keywords. My biggest earning X-Factor style adsense site is a 4 word exact domain match.org website that consistently produces ~$10/day.
    12,000 Exact searches
    8 - SOC
    ~7500 - competition in quotes.

    Its all in finding the right keywords if you ask me...

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    • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
      Originally Posted by Michael Gavre View Post

      I have no issues with ranking a website consisting of more than 3 keywords. My biggest earning X-Factor style adsense site is a 4 word exact domain match.org website that consistently produces ~$10/day.
      12,000 Exact searches
      8 - SOC
      ~7500 - competition in quotes.

      Its all in finding the right keywords if you ask me...

      Michael

      Amen to that. I have stopped using MNF. My highest earning sites are made without the use of MNF. MNF SOC was 20+ for all of them. I launched them and as soon as they were indexed, I was spot 5 - 9.

      I personally feel MNF is a poor purchase decision. It is excellent to get started but once you develop your own hunch then it becomes very easy to rank.
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      • Profile picture of the author yasky
        Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

        Amen to that. I have stopped using MNF. My highest earning sites are made without the use of MNF. MNF SOC was 20+ for all of them. I launched them and as soon as they were indexed, I was spot 5 - 9.

        I personally feel MNF is a poor purchase decision. It is excellent to get started but once you develop your own hunch then it becomes very easy to rank.
        Hamburglar why is MNF a poor purchase? I have just started a adsense business/campaign as you did. I also have just purchased Market Samurai which seems at the moment to be very useful, however I am in my first stages ( 5 sites ).
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        • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
          Originally Posted by yasky View Post

          Hamburglar why is MNF a poor purchase? I have just started a adsense business/campaign as you did. I also have just purchased Market Samurai which seems at the moment to be very useful, however I am in my first stages ( 5 sites ).
          I use Market Samurai and it is totally awesome.

          I have never used MNF, but I think part of the problem is that it gives certain information like SOC (strength of competition), and gives a green light, yellow light, or red light on whethe r you should proceed. Many folks seem to be over relying on this end result, instead of actually analyzing the results and the top ten sites that are ranking for the word.

          If they see a green light they go forward, when maybe they shouldn't.
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          • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
            Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin View Post

            I use Market Samurai and it is totally awesome.

            I have never used MNF, but I think part of the problem is that it gives certain information like SOC (strength of competition), and gives a green light, yellow light, or red light on whethe r you should proceed. Many folks seem to be over relying on this end result, instead of actually analyzing the results and the top ten sites that are ranking for the word.

            If they see a green light they go forward, when maybe they shouldn't.
            I have not used market Samurai so I cannot answer this one. But Tom is right about MNF. The green button becomes too much of a reliability and also the exact matches " ".

            I also have an apple so I needed to install parallels to use it. This makes MNF very slow and poor. I bought it because XFactor used it and had his method. However, as I progressed in my campaigns, MNF became mundane to use (took 2 minutes to retrieve results). So I just HAD to find another way. I am so happy I did. Its completely free. Just simple google adwords keytool.

            Now, MNF might work for you, I am just telling you my approach. For me, I see no value in it. This SOC # is good for the people WHO HAVE NO IDEA WHAT SERP IS. But honestly, SOC # is irrelevant to me after I have tested other proven personal methods that contradict MNF.

            Just my take on this.
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            • Profile picture of the author yasky
              Ok well im glad to know I bought the right thing. MS!
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              • Profile picture of the author Dimebag
                Although I am following the strict rule of 3 pr0/- & 0 links with an EMD, I am still only seeing a small proportion of the sites landing on page one??

                Usually the top of page two, the sites that are on page one, the highest is in #7 so still not really seeing any traffic.

                I have 17 sites up and make around $2 a day - best day has been $6, this is mainly due to long tails too.

                Do you think my severe lack of traffic is due to being below the fold of serp1 with every site??

                To the OP, I am backlinking the sites did you have a similar issue up until your backlinking started to move your pages up in the serps?

                -thanks
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                • Profile picture of the author SladeK
                  Originally Posted by Dimebag View Post

                  Although I am following the strict rule of 3 pr0/- & 0 links with an EMD, I am still only seeing a small proportion of the sites landing on page one??

                  Usually the top of page two, the sites that are on page one, the highest is in #7 so still not really seeing any traffic.

                  I have 17 sites up and make around $2 a day - best day has been $6, this is mainly due to long tails too.

                  Do you think my severe lack of traffic is due to being below the fold of serp1 with every site??

                  To the OP, I am backlinking the sites did you have a similar issue up until your backlinking started to move your pages up in the serps?

                  -thanks

                  Good question. I am in a similar position, all my sites are on the first page, but #7 and below. Going to slow down on making sites and work on tossing about 10-15 links to each of these sites a week via articles.

                  I too am curious to know what the OP did in this kind of situation.
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                  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
                    Originally Posted by SladeK View Post

                    Good question. I am in a similar position, all my sites are on the first page, but #7 and below. Going to slow down on making sites and work on tossing about 10-15 links to each of these sites a week via articles.

                    I too am curious to know what the OP did in this kind of situation.
                    Hey guy's,

                    Where are you back-linking from? I have seen some xfactor sites that all link to his other sites and vice versa. In theory creating a network of backlinks from pr 0 unrelated sites.

                    My sites ranked from position 5 - 10, when indexed with 0 backlinks. 2 sites are on page 2 from the new method of CB but still earn me money. It is all about KW research. It has been said once, twice but a million times and I would die by that. KW research is critical. I have a site that is #35 that earns me $3/day sometimes. That does not make sense in my head but the KW is something that is very attractive.

                    In regards to backlinks, I purchase high quality pr 4+ backlinks that are related to my site. I only need maybe 1 - 5 of those to start climbing higher.

                    Hope this helps you guys in your adventures.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Dimebag
                      Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

                      Hey guy's,

                      Where are you back-linking from? I have seen some xfactor sites that all link to his other sites and vice versa. In theory creating a network of backlinks from pr 0 unrelated sites.

                      My sites ranked from position 5 - 10, when indexed with 0 backlinks. 2 sites are on page 2 from the new method of CB but still earn me money. It is all about KW research. It has been said once, twice but a million times and I would die by that. KW research is critical. I have a site that is #35 that earns me $3/day sometimes. That does not make sense in my head but the KW is something that is very attractive.

                      In regards to backlinks, I purchase high quality pr 4+ backlinks that are related to my site. I only need maybe 1 - 5 of those to start climbing higher.

                      Hope this helps you guys in your adventures.
                      Thanks for your response - could you let us know a bit more about what you mean with regards to keyword research.

                      I am finding highly searched terms 5000 upwards p/month, mainly for household products and appliances etc

                      I am definately starting to think 2400 search per month is not enough, I have a site in position 7 and is currently receives very little traffic
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                      • Profile picture of the author JMartin
                        Originally Posted by Dimebag View Post

                        I am finding highly searched terms 5000 upwards p/month, mainly for household products and appliances etc

                        I am definately starting to think 2400 search per month is not enough, I have a site in position 7 and is currently receives very little traffic
                        While there might not be a critical difference in traffic between ranking 1 and 2, there's usually a big drop from the top couple to the bottom couple (yours).

                        Also, ask yourself this, is your link enticing? If I were to search for the KWP and see your result in #7, would your title/desc cause me to want to click or would I just see "This site is about KWP and finding KWP deals" or "KWP are this or that. We have best whatever KWP blah blah."?

                        If your title/desc sucks, then even with a #1 listing, you'll be losing lots of clicks.

                        Just thought I'd bring this up for discussion.

                        As to 2,400 searches, I'd look for much higher unless 1) you can secure a #1-#3 spot for sure and/or 2) the CPC is high (so you're getting paid $1+ a pop).

                        Think about it like this. If 80 people search, you might (depending on your title/desc) get 4-6 clicks a day in your spot--->BTW, if the rankings above you have strong calls to action, then you'll get less.

                        So, you get 4-6 clicks and say 50% click on through. That's 2-3 clicks. If you're getting $1+ per click, that's fine. In fact, I have sites that are in highly competitive markets, get next to no traffic (sometimes just 4 hits a day), but they pay $2-$5 per click and have a high CTR. So just a couple lousy hits can pop $4-$10 easily.

                        If you're getting paid 25 cents a click on a site that might get 4-6 hits, then don't expect much. And this is something you should learn to know before a site goes up.

                        In short, there are many things to look at. Don't short change yourself by just opening up shop because 1 criteria was met. And always learn from your mistakes.
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                        • Profile picture of the author Dimebag
                          Thanks, this was something I was going to move on to so I am glad you brought it up.

                          I was wondering what you guys are using as you title.

                          My approach so far has been "Key Phrase - Great Deals Online", "Key Phrase - Top Deals, Professional Line" etc

                          Would be interested to see what the others are doing, but I definitely think I need to push my sites above the fold, top 5 sites.
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                        • Profile picture of the author Craig McPherson
                          Originally Posted by JMartin View Post

                          Also, ask yourself this, is your link enticing?
                          Spot on

                          Your description is going to make or break you in my opinion.
                          Why should a visitor click on your link and not the other 9 on the page.

                          Give them a damn good reason to click yours. I use fear in some of mine and it works nicely.

                          Example:

                          Acme Blue Widgets - How blue widgets from acme saved me heaps of time and money and why acme blue widgets should be your number one choice for widgets.

                          or similar.

                          I use roughly 25-30 words in the description.

                          Remember, your description is your salesman when people are window shopping

                          HTH
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                          • Profile picture of the author JMartin
                            Originally Posted by Craig McPherson View Post

                            Spot on

                            Your description is going to make or break you in my opinion.
                            Why should a visitor click on your link and not the other 9 on the page.

                            Give them a damn good reason to click yours.

                            ...

                            Remember, your description is your salesman when people are window shopping
                            It's amazing how many people fail at this.

                            I spend all day searching for all sorts of stuff and on page one, I'll click anywhere on the page, not just the 1st listing. It's all about what title/desc "speaks to me."

                            A #2 or #3 listing with a strong call to action can easily nullify the "advantage" of a #1 listing that's ho-hum with it's "message."

                            Rather than thinking of the title/desc as some KWP magician to help your ranking, think of it as you writing a classified ad.
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                          • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
                            Originally Posted by Craig McPherson View Post

                            Spot on

                            Your description is going to make or break you in my opinion.
                            Why should a visitor click on your link and not the other 9 on the page.

                            Give them a damn good reason to click yours. I use fear in some of mine and it works nicely.

                            Example:

                            Acme Blue Widgets - How blue widgets from acme saved me heaps of time and money and why acme blue widgets should be your number one choice for widgets.

                            or similar.

                            I use roughly 25-30 words in the description.

                            Remember, your description is your salesman when people are window shopping

                            HTH
                            I also agree with this. Most titles are very very plain. When I launch my site I look at all the titles and ask myself: WHY WOULD A ANYONE CLICK ME? WHAT IS MY VALUE?

                            I look at #1 and #2 for ideas and just make it concise.
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                      • Profile picture of the author jeswarrior
                        Originally Posted by Dimebag View Post

                        Thanks for your response - could you let us know a bit more about what you mean with regards to keyword research.

                        I am finding highly searched terms 5000 upwards p/month, mainly for household products and appliances etc

                        I am definately starting to think 2400 search per month is not enough, I have a site in position 7 and is currently receives very little traffic
                        Don't rely too much in those numbers. Those are not actual searches done in Google.com only. A 10,000 exact search/month could be actually 50 miserable searches per month at #1 listing. A "not enough data" exact searches/month could be actually 5000 searches per month at #1 listing. It's frustrating but that's how it is.

                        The only way to know for sure the numbers is to test them with Adwords (impressions), excluding the content network.

                        "In the end, the Google keyword tool, even with the shiny new numbers it now displays, has to be taken exactly for what it is... a selling tool that acts as a gateway to getting people to sign up for AdWords. Anyone trying to use it as something else will wind up being sorely disappointed."

                        Read this:

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            • Profile picture of the author bluefoot
              Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

              Now, MNF might work for you, I am just telling you my approach. For me, I see no value in it. This SOC # is good for the people WHO HAVE NO IDEA WHAT SERP IS. But honestly, SOC # is irrelevant to me after I have tested other proven personal methods that contradict MNF.

              Just my take on this.
              I think what a lot of people do not realize about MNF SOC is the fact that it is reporting inanchor, intitle and inurl for all sites returned for the keyword. So it's similar to looking at "total pages".

              MNF reports SOC that includes all pages returned when all we care about is Google page one. A lot of folks understand this for total pages, I think it's true for MNF SOC as well, which makes it not reliable for this type of marketing.

              I do like the new MNF feature of domain name check. That is a real time saver.

              Phil
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              • Profile picture of the author SladeK
                I am back linking from article directories like ezine/goarticles/etc.

                I have seen a lot of x factor sites that link to themselves using a network of unrelated sites, when I track down the link network, it looks really spammy, and a lot of the sites have absolutely no useful information or navigation at all, to me I would imagine that would eventually raise a red flag.

                I guess I just assumed that in order for the traffic to be there you had to be within the top 5 at least. (following that whole principle of the top spot getting 42% of the clicks, second spot getting 20%, 3rd getting 10% or something, scaling down from there)

                Is the goal for you to solely just get indexed on page one and not even move up the SERPS from there?

                Maybe I am looking too much at the long term big picture, putting too much work into each site and getting it ranked high before pumping out there other.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Gavre
    One other tidbit of information that has really opened up a lot more product related keywords for me is this:

    Articles of clothing seem to be Popular Searches, but like most keywords all the usual suspects are taken. However, by adding a simple prefix or suffix, you will find some real winners. Adding a color as the first word is a good start. Popular colors to start with are white, pink, and black.

    Examples:

    Flower Girl Dresses
    110,000 exact searches
    All TLD's taken

    White Flower Girl Dresses
    2900 exact searches
    .net and .org still available (as of this post)

    Ivory Flower Girl Dresses
    2400 exact searches
    .net and .org still available (as of this post)

    Discount Flower Girl Dresses
    1600 exact searches
    .org still available (as of this post)

    and if that doesn't help you, you can also try adding 'for boys', 'for girls', 'for men' or 'for women' to the end.

    Examples:

    Leather Bags
    135000 exact searches
    All TLD's taken

    Leather Bags for Men
    2400 exact searches
    .org still available (as of this post)

    and Congratulations to the first person reading this to take advantage of this one:

    Leather Bags for Women
    1000 exact searches
    All TLD's AVAILABLE, YES EVEN THE .COM (as of this post)

    Think a little outside the box and don't rely solely on what MNF or Google Keyword Tool show as Keywords.

    Michael
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
      Originally Posted by Michael Gavre View Post


      and Congratulations to the first person reading this to take advantage of this one:

      Leather Bags for Women
      1000 exact searches
      All TLD's AVAILABLE, YES EVEN THE .COM (as of this post)
      Gone now, LOL
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Gavre
        Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin View Post

        Gone now, LOL
        Yea, I didn't think it would take long for that one to disappear. These kind of keywords are out there it just takes a bit of time to find them. However, I found all those while looking for an example while typing the above post, so it only took me about 5 min or less...

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  • Profile picture of the author truewarrior
    I found a keyword....the plural form has more searches yet the CPC is much much lower...it's like 0.05 compared to the singular keyword 5.00 per click... I'm just wondering why there is such a big disparity. Is this a mistake? How do I verify?
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    • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
      Originally Posted by truewarrior View Post

      I found a keyword....the plural form has more searches yet the CPC is much much lower...it's like 0.05 compared to the singular keyword 5.00 per click... I'm just wondering why there is such a big disparity. Is this a mistake? How do I verify?
      I would go for it right away.
      Reason: The plural version will show ads from singular version because content is same.

      To verify, just look at the ads displayed in the SERP and listing pages.
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    I seem to be hitting a barrier of $20/day. I have been adding around 3 - 5 sites a week and I still cannot push past $20. The indexed sites are all top 10.

    Time to buy some heavy PR backlinks tomorrow.

    Kind of confusing to see myself sitting at the this threshold for a long time.
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    • Profile picture of the author secretjustin
      Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

      I seem to be hitting a barrier of $20/day. I have been adding around 3 - 5 sites a week and I still cannot push past $20. The indexed sites are all top 10.

      Time to buy some heavy PR backlinks tomorrow.

      Kind of confusing to see myself sitting at the this threshold for a long time.

      One day it will suddenly blast way past the $20 and never look back. In my experience this is quite a common event.

      And it seems like you're putting in the work so it will definitely happen.

      Keep pushin

      -Peace
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    • Profile picture of the author jbgal
      Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

      I seem to be hitting a barrier of $20/day. I have been adding around 3 - 5 sites a week and I still cannot push past $20. The indexed sites are all top 10.

      Time to buy some heavy PR backlinks tomorrow.

      Kind of confusing to see myself sitting at the this threshold for a long time.
      Hi Hamburglar,

      Do you mind telling us where you buy your backlinks?

      JB
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      • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
        Originally Posted by jbgal View Post

        Hi Hamburglar,

        Do you mind telling us where you buy your backlinks?

        JB
        Well,

        I am looking for some reliable sources right now. I have always used text-link-ads also looking for links on DP.

        DP is turning into one big infestation of spam sites. PPL just buy old domains, put up some fake content and charge a ton of money. So the quality of links has gone down a lot. A whole lot. I tried the link juicer and it made my sites disappear. Maybe I used it wrong but it didn't work for me.

        I want to try linkvana, but am skeptical since TLJ is a similar system but yielded me no results.

        I am always seeking some other methods of link building or purchasing link package. I might try hiring link builders if they help at all.

        I also done article marketing for backlinks. Now I don't think this works that well as John Claims because I do have around 20 articles for each site yes I cannot break top 5 on any sites.

        One thing I am grateful for is my ability to get sites ranked in top 10 once indexed.
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        • Profile picture of the author jbgal
          Thanks for your quick reply. I did try Linkvana for a few months but it didn't work too well for me. UAW (Unique Article Wizard) definitely delivered better results at 1/3 of the price. I signed up for TLJ too but just didn't have the time to experiment with it and now my one month trial period is almost over (judging from your experience, maybe that's a good thing? )

          I'm thinking of hiring a full-time link builder as well.


          Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

          Well,

          I am looking for some reliable sources right now. I have always used text-link-ads also looking for links on DP.

          DP is turning into one big infestation of spam sites. PPL just buy old domains, put up some fake content and charge a ton of money. So the quality of links has gone down a lot. A whole lot. I tried the link juicer and it made my sites disappear. Maybe I used it wrong but it didn't work for me.

          I want to try linkvana, but am skeptical since TLJ is a similar system but yielded me no results.

          I am always seeking some other methods of link building or purchasing link package. I might try hiring link builders if they help at all.

          I also done article marketing for backlinks. Now I don't think this works that well as John Claims because I do have around 20 articles for each site yes I cannot break top 5 on any sites.

          One thing I am grateful for is my ability to get sites ranked in top 10 once indexed.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kevin Marshall
          Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

          Well,

          I am looking for some reliable sources right now. I have always used text-link-ads also looking for links on DP.

          DP is turning into one big infestation of spam sites. PPL just buy old domains, put up some fake content and charge a ton of money. So the quality of links has gone down a lot. A whole lot. I tried the link juicer and it made my sites disappear. Maybe I used it wrong but it didn't work for me.

          I want to try linkvana, but am skeptical since TLJ is a similar system but yielded me no results.

          I am always seeking some other methods of link building or purchasing link package. I might try hiring link builders if they help at all.

          I also done article marketing for backlinks. Now I don't think this works that well as John Claims because I do have around 20 articles for each site yes I cannot break top 5 on any sites.

          One thing I am grateful for is my ability to get sites ranked in top 10 once indexed.
          Hey man...I've been reading your thread for awhile. This is a very inspirational thread. I'm doing something similar right now, but I am trying to do a little bit of everything to get to $118.77 per day. I am doing Adsense, CPA, Clickbank, Amazon, and whatever it takes to get there. This will be my first month making over $100 for the month in Adsense revenue.

          I am using some of the paid backlinking services and they seem to work okay. I can't say I'm seeing amazing results or anything, but I have seen one of my sites jump to #2 in the Google results recently.

          Anyways, best of luck to you and have a great day!
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  • Profile picture of the author roosterfeather
    Working towards a goal, the very essential requirement! I'm gonna follow this thread!
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  • Profile picture of the author kajanova
    Do you have any trouble with google's sandbox with your newly created websites?
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  • Profile picture of the author marketeers
    I loved beginning my career on the internet. It's a great feeling when you see those pay checks build up in PayPal or your affiliate account.

    Good luck buddy i believe you will hit that $300 per day soon, just stick at it

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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    It definitely is a very slow process.

    There has to be great amounts of patience to continue.

    I have found a keyword on which I am going to try building a community around it. Forum/blog etc..
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  • Profile picture of the author euhlir
    Hey haven't checked in on your progress in a while and was happy to see you're up to $20/day. That's awesome man.

    I think I'm gonna have to get back into this. lol

    I have one niche site constantly doing $1-5/day so I'm happy to see this is very consistent. I also don't know if it's just the holidays, but the clicks have been paying so much more this past month as well. It's pretty nice not touching a site for over 1 1/2 months, and the profits increasing.

    Keep up the good work bud.
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  • Profile picture of the author smartclick
    Awesome work!
    Am sure all the knowledge that you got so far form this experience is going to increase your profits for this 2010!
    Working hard is the only way to get results!
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  • Profile picture of the author dreamer111
    good to go up day by day. it is something which is the result of patience. keep it up.
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    • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
      Originally Posted by illustraboy View Post

      Great Thread Hamburglar,

      how i your groing right now?
      still stable or not in your maintain anyomore?
      I do not understand your questions.

      I am maintaining at $18 - 20/day

      Its a very slow growth process but nonetheless, its growing.
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      • Profile picture of the author cmo140
        To get where you are at now, how many hours a week do you spend and how much money on subscriptions and software did you spend to get where you are now.

        Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

        I do not understand your questions.

        I am maintaining at $18 - 20/day

        Its a very slow growth process but nonetheless, its growing.
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  • Profile picture of the author 32paul52
    Hi Hamburglar,
    Great work me friend - well done so far- you have inspired some people here. I wonder if its time to look at what takes the most time to get done and work what has worked the best so far - sort of a test and improve maybe.......

    All the best for Christmas BTW

    Paul
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  • Profile picture of the author Heimir Finnson
    Have your older sites, 60+ days started to drop down the SERPs?
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  • Profile picture of the author simonheng82
    Hi Everybody, first of all wish you a merry christmas and happy new year!

    Just would like to know whether you see a drop in earning in this festival week? My earning is just drop from 15 per day to 3 per day! SERP remain unchanged but traffic abit slow.......

    Simon
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    • Profile picture of the author nonoynet
      Yeah same here. from 10 to 7 a day.
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  • Profile picture of the author nettech
    Hi Simon,

    DOn't worry matey, you're not alone, I've had the same issues.
    My figures are very similar to yours and have seen a massvie drop. The first 2 weeks went absolutley crazy and I thought Id go t othe Ferrari showroom (NOT) but then the last week hasnt been to good. However, this is quite normal, the first 2 weeks everybody is looking and then you have to appreciate the fact that people go away etc.

    Just ride out the storm before you come to any conclusions.

    Good luck,

    Have a wonderful Xmas all.

    Zaheer
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
      Not alone and don't worry about it. My last 2 days are about 10-20% of my average daily earnings for the previous 2 weeks before that.
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      • Profile picture of the author simonheng82
        HI warriors, thanks for the reply, yea, i am still keep going and just submitted few articles yesterday...........looking for some improvement in early January.

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    Hi hamburglar, any update to share for the project?

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  • Profile picture of the author InnerEdges
    I havent had much luck with this, I was hitting about $40 a day. But I signed up with this other program and. . . . . WOW lets just say this works hand in hand.
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      Whats the program?


      Originally Posted by InnerEdges View Post

      I havent had much luck with this, I was hitting about $40 a day. But I signed up with this other program and. . . . . WOW lets just say this works hand in hand.
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  • Profile picture of the author daveshu
    Can I throw my experience into the mix here please?

    I started trying adsense about 15 months ago and made next to nothing for the first 4 or 5 months. I now make £600 - £800 per month, with the bulk of it coming from 2 sites.

    One alternates between 1st &2nd in Google UK and gets about 120-130 hits per day. This has a CTR of around 9.5% and earns between £300 and £400 per month.

    The other is 3rd/4th for its main term and gets around 70-80 hits per day. It has a CTR of around 7.25% and earns between £120-£150 per month.

    Both are 5/6 pages only, but with very focused, highly relevant content, and both are information sites, giving people who are generally looking to sell scrap metals and old coins (eg gold etc).

    I *think* the reason they work quite well is that visitors find the information and advice that they want, but when they've read it there is no service on offer from the sites.

    People still want to go somewhere to sell their stuff. Since they hopefully now trust me because of the genuinely helpful and correct information they've received, they can conveniently click the adsense ads that run down the right hand side of the page.

    I think having a site that is clear and concise and gives people good advice with no distracting banners, affiliate stuff etc, builds trust and gives people exactly what they want.

    Since adsense is great at putting relevant ads on each page they then have a choice of places to go to.

    I'm sure I could probably imporve the performance of these sites, but really I haven't touched them since I put them up maybe 12 months ago.

    The rest of my sites tend to have affiliate stuff on them, or not so focused content, or get low CPC and so don't earn anywhere near as much money.

    Hope that makes sense and is helpful to someone.
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    • Profile picture of the author LadyL08
      This thread has slowed down - let's bring it back (unless we need to start another). I think it is really good and has inspired me, so I want to put my experiences on it to keep myself motivated. My goal is to make $150/day and I would like to do it through Adsense. Right now I'm doing about that much in a month. [This is the first time I have acknowledged this goal in public. It feels different than writing it on my own paper.]

      Since reading this thread, keyword research finally clicked in my head in terms of finding low competitive words. (i am focusing on 3,000 searches per month, SOC<20 and MOB of 0 or 1 from Micro Niche Finder) I also check Market Samurai, Google and SEOBook.

      I believe my major weakness is not taking enough action - especially articles. I seem to bog down at about 10 to 15 articles per website. I thought since the MOB was so low I wouldn't have to write many to get to the top. I have several that are lingering on page 2 or 3.

      I also find myself going three of four days without doing anything really substantial. Checking stats, modifying websites and other stuff is not writing articles. Right now I am sitting on a ton of PLR articles I can rewrite quickly for backlink purposes.

      My goal for this week is to rewrite/submit 10 articles. I submit them to EZA then use SubmitYourArticle to rewrite and automatically submit to other article directories.

      Since November I have created 5 niche websites, with about 4 subpages for different keywords. All have low SOC and MOB. I have a fairly high, single figure CTR and decent amount per click. I just need more traffic. I want a minimum of thirty articles per website before I move on and create another.

      I'll report back at the end of the week on my progress.

      FYI: Besides the individual articles, I submit my webpages to social bookmarking sites and submit RSS feeds of the website and article directory sites.
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      • Profile picture of the author Andie
        Originally Posted by LadyL08 View Post

        This thread has slowed down - let's bring it back (unless we need to start another). I think it is really good and has inspired me, so I want to put my experiences on it to keep myself motivated. My goal is to make $150/day and I would like to do it through Adsense. Right now I'm doing about that much in a month. [This is the first time I have acknowledged this goal in public. It feels different than writing it on my own paper.]

        Since reading this thread, keyword research finally clicked in my head in terms of finding low competitive words. (i am focusing on 3,000 searches per month, SOC<20 and MOB of 0 or 1 from Micro Niche Finder) I also check Market Samurai, Google and SEOBook.

        I believe my major weakness is not taking enough action - especially articles. I seem to bog down at about 10 to 15 articles per website. I thought since the MOB was so low I wouldn't have to write many to get to the top. I have several that are lingering on page 2 or 3.

        I also find myself going three of four days without doing anything really substantial. Checking stats, modifying websites and other stuff is not writing articles. Right now I am sitting on a ton of PLR articles I can rewrite quickly for backlink purposes.

        My goal for this week is to rewrite/submit 10 articles. I submit them to EZA then use SubmitYourArticle to rewrite and automatically submit to other article directories.

        Since November I have created 5 niche websites, with about 4 subpages for different keywords. All have low SOC and MOB. I have a fairly high, single figure CTR and decent amount per click. I just need more traffic. I want a minimum of thirty articles per website before I move on and create another.

        I'll report back at the end of the week on my progress.

        FYI: Besides the individual articles, I submit my webpages to social bookmarking sites and submit RSS feeds of the website and article directory sites.
        Lynne -
        Thanks for sharing, and good luck with reaching your goals~
        I have yet to see much from my adsense, but still learning alot and I'm hoping to hit that 100+ days myself.
        I do use MS but haven't tried the MNF so I am wondering what the MOB represents?
        keep us updated on how it is going.. glad you woke the thread up again!

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        • Profile picture of the author LadyL08
          MOB stands for Measure of Backlinks. It supposedly tells you how many backlinks you need to get on the first page. All my pages have about 40 backlinks listed so far and I'm on page 1-3 (keywords show an MOB of 0 or 1) so I just use this number relatively.
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          • Profile picture of the author Gale10
            If you download SEOQuake, which is free, then you can check every site you visits number of links.

            It is a great little tool, actually.

            For me, I built a few sites before christmas but since I have been steadily building about three per week.

            My first goal is to earn £1 ($1.30 ish) per day from adsense, and my target date is 15.01.10 and I am pretty close to it.

            I hate writing articles, but this week I am definitely going to knuckle down and write them. It is pure laziness, because I can do it......I just don't like it.

            One tip I would give is never under-estimate the power of video. It can give a lagging site a nice little boost up the rankings, and if you submit them to a few sites so much the better.

            I have some other things "on the cook" that are not related to adsense which I am mostly outsourcing (thank goodness!), but I will probably have to give it some time nevertheless.

            Best wishes all round!

            Ruth
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            • Profile picture of the author LadyL08
              Originally Posted by Gale10 View Post


              I hate writing articles, but this week I am definitely going to knuckle down and write them. It is pure laziness, because I can do it......I just don't like it.

              One tip I would give is never under-estimate the power of video. It can give a lagging site a nice little boost up the rankings, and if you submit them to a few sites so much the better.
              Probably not the best thread to put this on but what would I put in a video about kitchen accessories? I'll have to investigate what it takes to get a video made.

              Only did one article last night. Hmm, should I go to the gym this morning or write another article - both are good for me.
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            • Profile picture of the author fiero
              Originally Posted by Gale10 View Post


              One tip I would give is never under-estimate the power of video. It can give a lagging site a nice little boost up the rankings, and if you submit them to a few sites so much the better.

              Ruth
              Hi, do u know which video sharing sites are without nofollow? I know Youtube is nofollow in the description box but no nofollow in the profile user channel. Tq.
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              • Profile picture of the author Gale10
                Hi,

                I dont know which video sites are no follow and follow, you would have to check by looking at the page source. That is not what really concerns me, especially because I believe that Yahoo doesn't pay any attention to follow or no follow anyway.

                That aside, there is a brilliant site called TubeMogul which enables you to spread out your videos far and wide. It is free, but I believe that if you pay then you can get the videos spread out further. I haven't investigated it too much, because I never intended to pay for it anyway!

                The thing I like about videos is they can be any length, and have any sort of content. So long as you have your keywords in the description and title, you are good to go.

                Lynne, you can have talking kitchen accessories and make a humourous video. You can just have a video describing the attributes of the kitchen accessories. You can have a video of you using the kitchen accessories.

                I use powerpoint to make some slides, then I go to windows movie maker and add a soundtrack and some effects. If you go to YouTube there are lots of vids showing you how to make a video. You can add your own voice as a sound track, or just have a video of yourself talking about the panasonic 557 breadmaker or whatever it is. (Just guessing, I have no idea of what you are building sites on!)

                I guess to some people it is fiddly but to me it is so much easier and more gratifying than article writing.

                Best wishes,

                Ruth
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    • Profile picture of the author carlos123
      Originally Posted by daveshu View Post

      People still want to go somewhere to sell their stuff. Since they hopefully now trust me because of the genuinely helpful and correct information they've received, they can conveniently click the adsense ads that run down the right hand side of the page.
      Hmm...interesting Dave. Good example of Adsense success. Have you considered running the ads down the left hand side of the page instead of on the right? I've always heard (don't know this by personal experience yet) that putting Adsense ads on the left is the better alternative since people tend to read from left to right in an F pattern with very little attention usually paid to the right hand side of site pages.

      Just a thought that might improve your bottom line still more for what it's worth.

      Carlos
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        No I haven't, thats a good example of how I could perhaps improve the performance if I sat down and put some more effort into it.

        The reason I decided to put them on the right was so that the text came first - personally I hate landing on sites and the first thing that hits me is adsense - I usually think it's a spammy junk site & leave, so iwanted to avoid that - but I really should try your idea.

        One other thing that might be of interest to people - I don't know if this is actually true, but I believe it to be, I've read it in various places - is that the amount you earn per click doesn't just relate to each individual site, but to all sites across your adsense account.

        That is to say, if you have a high quality site that you earn a good amount per click through, and you put up a not so good site with poor quality, it will effect the amount you earn on ALL of your adsense sites, even your good one.

        The term for this is smartpricing, but the gist of it is this:

        The key to earning a lot of money through adsense is not to create dozens of sites, but to create a handful with good content and good traffic (and a good earnings per click obviously).

        Just one bad site can knock your earnings on all of your good sites.

        It's called smart pricing - you can read about it here: http://www.jensense.com/2005/10/25/o...sense-account/

        Dave

        Originally Posted by carlos123 View Post

        Hmm...interesting Dave. Good example of Adsense success. Have you considered running the ads down the left hand side of the page instead of on the right? I've always heard (don't know this by personal experience yet) that putting Adsense ads on the left is the better alternative since people tend to read from left to right in an F pattern with very little attention usually paid to the right hand side of site pages.

        Just a thought that might improve your bottom line still more for what it's worth.

        Carlos
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        • Profile picture of the author LadyL08
          Originally Posted by daveshu View Post

          One other thing that might be of interest to people - I don't know if this is actually true, but I believe it to be, I've read it in various places - is that the amount you earn per click doesn't just relate to each individual site, but to all sites across your adsense account.

          That is to say, if you have a high quality site that you earn a good amount per click through, and you put up a not so good site with poor quality, it will effect the amount you earn on ALL of your adsense sites, even your good one.

          The term for this is smartpricing, but the gist of it is this:

          The key to earning a lot of money through adsense is not to create dozens of sites, but to create a handful with good content and good traffic (and a good earnings per click obviously).

          Just one bad site can knock your earnings on all of your good sites.

          It's called smart pricing - you can read about it here: One poorly converting site can "smart price" an entire AdSense account « JenSense

          Dave
          Wow, just read article.

          I have a site with very low Adsense CTR and very low payouts. The whole product has a very low conversion but such high search volume that it makes it worth it to have affiliate ads on the site. I am going to remove Adsense and see if that affects my account. I know right from the start my overall CTR will increase dramatically.
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          • Profile picture of the author LadyL08
            For those who are putting up two to three sites a week, when do you do your SEO? How long does it take you to create the site? Do you do the sites one day and the article marketing, link building on other days?

            My plan was to put up the site one day, create and submit one article to EZA and bookmark to get it indexed on day 2. While waiting for indexing, create 5 more articles.
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            • Profile picture of the author SladeK
              I am all of a sudden having issues with ad relevance. So I am currently experimenting with different techniques including section targeting and various ad placements.styles.

              So far, section targeting seems to be working slightly, but unfortunately it can take up to 2 weeks to get established, so I have a little while to make an accurate determination.

              Everything else in terms of not mixing keywords, properly used SEO and H1 tags to ensure adsense bot receives accurate information seems to be in order, so I am a little bit in the dark as to what might be causing my problem.

              Before I embark on a new keyword, I always make sure there are relevant ads on the sidebar of Google when I do an initial search, and all of my keywords have been gravy as far as that is concerned.

              Anyone else having relevance issues? I have done plenty of reading and every source seems to say the same thing, and offer remedies that I have already tried. So I am pretty much just sitting on my hands waiting to see if the section targeting will kick in, if not I am kind of SOL
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            • Profile picture of the author Gale10
              Originally Posted by LadyL08 View Post

              For those who are putting up two to three sites a week, when do you do your SEO? How long does it take you to create the site? Do you do the sites one day and the article marketing, link building on other days?

              My plan was to put up the site one day, create and submit one article to EZA and bookmark to get it indexed on day 2. While waiting for indexing, create 5 more articles.

              Hi Lynne,

              I am not sure if you are asking about on site SEO or backlinking strategy. However, this is what I do. (I am much more clickbump than Xfactor, actually).

              I guess my week starts about Thursday, because that is when I research to find the three keywords that I am going to target next week. I buy the domains, point them and allow the rest of the week until monday to make sure they get propagated.

              (I dont work weekends)

              Monday, I build the three sites, I have the clickbump templates and I add all-in-one SEO plugin, plus XML sitemap plugin. I am experimenting with some other plugins but until I know they are of benefit, I will not mention them. I also use Google Analytics and of course, adsense. Some people add adsense later, but I do not find it makes any difference.

              Once they are up of course I need content, so I trawl through the web to find content - I add everything I get together onto one notepad file and then read over it, and put it in my own words.

              As soon as they are complete I digg, delicious, and reddit them. I used to use social bookmarker but at the moment mine doesn't seem to like me.

              That usually takes about a day for me, about 8 hours. Building the sites doesnt take too long, getting the content together for three sites can be time consuming though.

              Tuesday - I now try and do the backlinking. I only do small backlinking - that is to say I don't do squidoo lenses and hubpages (too much like article writing!) but I will do minor blogging on other blogs. I try and find sites that are Google visit very frequently and have a reasonably high pr.

              Wednesday is an assessment day. Normally they are indexed by now and I see where abouts they are in the ranking, I need them to be on first page. If they are not on first page then they need more work - this is when I start making videos. Also more backlinking. This is when I feel guilty about not writing articles and wonder what would happen if I actually did do some.

              Thursday, research like I said before. I try not to look at the sites because about now they start doing the Google dance. It seems to take a while for all the backlinks to join up, I just have to be patient.

              Friday, I look at the previous weeks sites, and see if they need any more help, do videos, feel guilty about articles, think about other ways to boost them.

              That is about it for me.

              Best wishes,

              Ruth
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              • Profile picture of the author LadyL08
                A great plan Ruth!

                I am definitely going to write a daily plan for what I want to get accomplished. I'm tired of a week going by and I'm still fiddling with the same few websites. I want to get more sites up.

                Right now I have about five sites that bring in the bulk of my $5-7/day. I'm excited about this current round because they are actually cllimbing the SERPs. Other sites that I created fizzled after the initial articles made their rounds. The sites never actually made it up in the rankings.
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        • Profile picture of the author big_t
          Originally Posted by daveshu View Post

          No I haven't, thats a good example of how I could perhaps improve the performance if I sat down and put some more effort into it.

          One other thing that might be of interest to people - I don't know if this is actually true, but I believe it to be, I've read it in various places - is that the amount you earn per click doesn't just relate to each individual site, but to all sites across your adsense account.

          That is to say, if you have a high quality site that you earn a good amount per click through, and you put up a not so good site with poor quality, it will effect the amount you earn on ALL of your adsense sites, even your good one.

          The term for this is smartpricing, but the gist of it is this:

          The key to earning a lot of money through adsense is not to create dozens of sites, but to create a handful with good content and good traffic (and a good earnings per click obviously).

          Just one bad site can knock your earnings on all of your good sites.

          It's called smart pricing - you can read about it here:

          Dave
          Can anyone else vouch for this if you know it to be true or not?
          The article is over 4 years old so I'm wondering if this practice still applies today.

          Because this could be a key piece of information for people that have many sites but a couple that barely make any money and they leave them online for the hell of it. But if it means cutting loose some site that does $0.25 a day in order to improve CPC on other well performing site(s) it might be worth it.

          Thanks
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          • Profile picture of the author Gale10
            Hi,

            With regard to one site affecting the whole of your adsense, the only way to be sure is to test it yourself.

            I personally do not believe it is still true. The more experience you get making adsense sites the more your clicks are worth.

            When I started out, a few weeks back, I got many 1p and 2p clicks. Nowadays, even though I am adding three sites per week, I get 20p ++ clicks. Sure, I still get some 1p clicks but much less often.

            Like I say, test it yourself but for me I do not believe it to be true anymore.

            And don't let it stop you taking action!

            Best wishes,

            Ruth
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      • Profile picture of the author Lukas
        Originally Posted by carlos123 View Post

        Hmm...interesting Dave. Good example of Adsense success. Have you considered running the ads down the left hand side of the page instead of on the right? I've always heard (don't know this by personal experience yet) that putting Adsense ads on the left is the better alternative since people tend to read from left to right in an F pattern with very little attention usually paid to the right hand side of site pages.

        Just a thought that might improve your bottom line still more for what it's worth.

        Carlos
        Ahhh. I think the eye wonders according to color value of the site.
        If the color on the left is dark, it'll lead your eye away to the right you will look there, unless there is a off-color button on left. no facts, just "myos ojos".

        Yahoo and many other big blog / wp sites put their video slots or most viewed/mot ppualr widgets on mid-to top right. So it must work for them.
        And it is now training my eye to look there first.

        Seriously, I log-in WF on top right and log out. I would've never known about the top left link called "UserCP".
        I do web searches on top to middle right of websites.
        I am a mid to right guy unless he color leads me left.
        maybe I am the oddball.
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    • Profile picture of the author mrdomains
      Originally Posted by daveshu View Post


      I *think* the reason they work quite well is that visitors find the information and advice that they want, but when they've read it there is no service on offer from the sites.

      I would say you think right. And this is one of the main factors that spells "longevity", which is good of course
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      • Profile picture of the author LadyL08
        $100 in a month with Adsense.

        Went from 6 months to three months to two months and I hit $100 yesterday. Soon it will be $100 per day.

        Slowly but steady.
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  • Profile picture of the author TJ Cox
    When you guys are looking at search counts do you only consider the local search count?

    So would go after a keyword that meets all of your criteria but has a local search count of 1000 but 8100 in global search count results in MNF?
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    • Profile picture of the author Gale10
      Originally Posted by slash30 View Post

      When you guys are looking at search counts do you only consider the local search count?

      So would go after a keyword that meets all of your criteria but has a local search count of 1000 but 8100 in global search count results in MNF?

      Hiya Slash,

      I personally would go after a keyword like that. I do not care where the clicker lives.

      It is an odd thing, but I have plenty of sites in the top ten on Google.com, and considerably less on the first page of Google.co.uk. And I am in the UK!

      First I didn't worry, then I did worry,(set everything to UK) now I don't worry again. Because if you do your sites to the best of your ability, and put decent content on there, then you will get clicks.

      All the best,

      Ruth
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        • Profile picture of the author LadyL08
          FRUSTRATING

          (Morning here is US)
          Yesterday my clicks averaged to less than $.10 per click - lowest I've ever gotten for my markets.

          Today, so far averaging over $.60

          When I went to bed last night I said it was a business of averages, but it's still frustrating to see so little.

          I added Adsense on a few already established sites - wonder if that had anything to do with it
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          • Profile picture of the author XFactor
            Originally Posted by LadyL08 View Post

            FRUSTRATING

            (Morning here is US)
            Yesterday my clicks averaged to less than $.10 per click - lowest I've ever gotten for my markets.

            Today, so far averaging over $.60

            When I went to bed last night I said it was a business of averages, but it's still frustrating to see so little.

            I added Adsense on a few already established sites - wonder if that had anything to do with it
            I've gotten as low a 1 penny per click, then back up to 50 cents or more
            from the same ad block on the same site.

            This will happen over and over again.

            Why?

            Because advertisers bid on the amounts they will pay, and choose to
            advertise at certain times of the day and these amounts will also vary
            on the keywords chosen.

            Publishers seem to think they are deserved a standard amount per click,
            yet these same people do not seem to understand how the system works.

            Educate yourself, learn about the risks, and carry on.

            - John
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            • Profile picture of the author keyaziz
              Originally Posted by XFactor View Post

              I've gotten as low a 1 penny per click, then back up to 50 cents or more
              from the same ad block on the same site.

              This will happen over and over again.

              Why?

              Because advertisers bid on the amounts they will pay, and choose to
              advertise at certain times of the day and these amounts will also vary
              on the keywords chosen.

              Publishers seem to think they are deserved a standard amount per click,
              yet these same people do not seem to understand how the system works.

              Educate yourself, learn about the risks, and carry on.

              - John

              Yup me too.

              On the same adsense block one day I got a few clicks that were a £1 a click then the next day the same block I got clicks that were 10-20 pence!
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              • Profile picture of the author Gale10
                I didn't realise that, well I didnt think of it. I guess if only one person paying for the click bids, then they get the click at the lowest price.

                Therefore, we get a low price click.

                But it doesn't necessarily follow that if we add to our own list of sites, our clicks will go down?

                I guess the clicks are affected by the payer (the adwords person) more than the publisher.

                Interesting.

                Best wishes,

                Ruth
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                • Profile picture of the author LadyL08
                  Arrgh! I was just getting my website where I was ranking high for several keywords. Then my first experience with the Google dance. I just about cried when my ranking report came back.

                  I did get some good news because I finally hit the top spot for two other keywords - on Yahoo!. Not nearly the traffic but hey, it's something good.
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  • Profile picture of the author GazD
    Its true people get trained by the popular websites they visit. Always a good idea to know where these sites put their naviagtion etc and instead place your ads in these areas.
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  • Profile picture of the author sandra.IMqueen
    Hamburglar, along with sage advice from people who understand where you are at. Thanks for sharing your determination, your success and failures. Your willingess to be so open helps others to look at the things that hold them back.

    Keep moving forward, keep taking action, know that you will make mistakes, know that you might fail. But know that if you do nothing nothing will happen.

    I remember the feeling of earning that first dollar, when things get tough or don't move as fast as you'd like them to just remember that feeling.

    wf is a great place.
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    great thread honestly this is good
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  • Profile picture of the author meenu
    I think all steps are good but you forgot the create adsense a/c.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gale10
    Hi Lynne,

    Good Morning!

    The thing is, it does dip and dive. I was having a look at my stats earlier, and I have odd days where I get over $3, and some days where I get zilch. My nothing days are getting further and further apart though.

    It is a question of building, isn't it? Every time you do something for your business, it is like a brick. It takes many bricks to build a house. You have to keep on building those bricks and not get despondent.

    Very few things work on a perfectly level curve. You look at every chart, and there are bumps in the graph, where things didn't go so well. It happens, and it happens to everyone. The winners are the ones that didn't let it get to them.

    So, cheer up, keep building those bricks, and the even the low money (or no money) days get further and further apart.

    You are in this for the long haul and you do not want a get-rich-quick scheme, do you? (Hey if you do I know some goo roos who will flog you rubbish! LOL!)

    Keep ya chin up and take care. Tomorrow is another day,

    Best wishes,

    Ruth

    I dont think adding adsense to established sites would mean the drop. I did the same thing and my adsense just increased. It is just a flukey dip.
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  • Profile picture of the author refernshare
    Daveshu,

    Very good point and thank you for sharing. On smart-pricing, it may be true because I have several sites and three of them were doing very well with CPC between $1-$3. Those were my first sites following XFactor method. As I continued to build more sites, I noticed a drop on CPC to $.01 - $.70 for my first 3 sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author BelindaMooney
    My google seems to be holding steadily. And mine had actually increased since the holidays but mine are geared towards education and kids - areas people are busy offline during the holidays. ANd the main goal on those sights is content, not necessarily $$

    I have 4 sites and I averagle $15 - $25 A DAY on google. Two of my sites are part of a different ad network - platefull -and am averaging $300 - $400 a month with them - been with them for about a year.

    I need to market my sights a bit more I think,
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    • Profile picture of the author Gary Becks
      Originally Posted by BelindaMooney View Post

      My google seems to be holding steadily. And mine had actually increased since the holidays but mine are geared towards education and kids - areas people are busy offline during the holidays. ANd the main goal on those sights is content, not necessarily $$

      I have 4 sites and I averagle $15 - $25 A DAY on google. Two of my sites are part of a different ad network - platefull -and am averaging $300 - $400 a month with them - been with them for about a year.

      I need to market my sights a bit more I think,
      Would you recommend this ad network? How is there payout compared to adsense?

      I have added content to lots of my sites today, and they have all dropped in the rankings. It means I will have a few lean days, because most of them were on page one. I hope they will move back up to at least where they were in the next day or so.

      I am thinking about selling some of my sites. If you could buy the perfect site for adsense, what would it contain?

      Best wishes,

      Ruth
      Tons of organic traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gale10
    I have added content to lots of my sites today, and they have all dropped in the rankings. It means I will have a few lean days, because most of them were on page one. I hope they will move back up to at least where they were in the next day or so.

    I am thinking about selling some of my sites. If you could buy the perfect site for adsense, what would it contain?

    Best wishes,

    Ruth
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan B Rusu
    Build traffic to your site and the adsense earnings will come..
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    Yea, i am on the way too Hope our dream comes true!

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  • Profile picture of the author webdango
    Hoping to get some advice.....

    Following the niceh site/AdSense method.

    Using Micro Niche Finder
    Exact Searches between 2,000 - 3,000
    Exact Phrase Count < 100,000
    SOC <= 20
    MOB <=1

    Check Google, Adsense preview, and if all looks good, I register the keyword as the domain name, top level (com, org, or net), no hypens.

    Build the site using Wordpress with 3-5 original content articles

    Submit 3-5 articles to EZA with they keyword as a link in the resource box. Submit 1 article to GoArticles. All article are original content written by me or outsourced.

    I've got 4 sites up now with the first one going live on 7 Jan. All show pages and links in Yahoo Site Explorer, but not a one has been indexed by Google yet.....

    What am I doing wrong?
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  • Profile picture of the author seoguy1
    $100 to $300 a day is a very ambitious goal. Your blog needs to become very popular and it should be in a niche that display CPC ads.
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  • Profile picture of the author Retired
    Check your WP privacy settings to be sure you're allowing Google in.
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  • Profile picture of the author webdango
    Unbelievable....

    Note to self and anyone else trying this:

    GoDaddy Wordpress installs are public by default
    Hostgator (where i'm doing my niche sites) Wordpress installs are private

    Also of note - Yahoo evidently ignores the settings because the sites are indexed in Yahoo.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard HAN
      Originally Posted by webdango View Post

      GoDaddy Wordpress installs are public by default
      Hostgator (where i'm doing my niche sites) Wordpress installs are private

      Actually, I think it's not a matter of whether Hostgator set it to Private as default. As the installation is done via Fantastico, it could mean that all webhost using cPanel/Fantastico had it set this way.
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    • Profile picture of the author Natlex
      Originally Posted by webdango View Post

      Unbelievable....

      Note to self and anyone else trying this:

      GoDaddy Wordpress installs are public by default
      Hostgator (where i'm doing my niche sites) Wordpress installs are private

      Also of note - Yahoo evidently ignores the settings because the sites are indexed in Yahoo.
      Interesting... I guess yahoo does not care , but as others have mentioned it's probably fantastico. Some versions of it have privacy setup by default.
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  • Profile picture of the author max922
    For generating revenue from Adsense the Better ways is to Setup Wordpress Blog and Apply SEO Friendly Theme and update your blog with Unique contents so google give much fovourable preference to your Post and Index them Quickly As much as they .. and Also find high Paying Keywords and Optimize your webblog on those Keywords..

    thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author Bertil Jenner
      Originally Posted by max922 View Post

      For generating revenue from Adsense the Better ways is to Setup Wordpress Blog and Apply SEO Friendly Theme and update your blog with Unique contents so google give much fovourable preference to your Post and Index them Quickly As much as they .. and Also find high Paying Keywords and Optimize your webblog on those Keywords..

      thanks
      Indexing is not the same thing as ranking. You can have 10,000 posts indexed and make $0.

      High paying keywords are harder to rank for so that may translate to lower traffic and lower earnings. A balance must be attained between search volume and kw PPC cost.

      High paying keywords for Google search is not the same thing as High paying keywords for Adsense. That method worked a while back when people did not set different prices for Adsense vs Search.
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  • Profile picture of the author Retired
    You are correct. All cPanel/Fantastico installations of WP set the privacy to keep out search engines by default. You must remember to change it yourself.

    After you've made this mistake a few times and sat around waiting for Google to index your site, you'll remember.
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    • Profile picture of the author 7_8_shortcuts
      Originally Posted by Retired View Post

      You are correct. All cPanel/Fantastico installations of WP set the privacy to keep out search engines by default. You must remember to change it yourself.

      ...
      This very thing kept some of my customers coming back
      to me asking when their sites will finally get indexed...

      Problem solved...

      I've now setup my WP site-building tool to automatically
      check the privacy setting of your blog and display
      a warning if it's not "visible".

      I have previously wasted months (ouch) with sites that were
      not indexed because of this... Know better now :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author webdango
    Forgot to say thanks Retired, so Thanks!

    Doing another site today, and the first thing I did was set to public.....

    And Bretil, the first step to ranking it to get indexed. And one of the things I do is AdSense sandbox t see what ads are showing for my key term. No good ads, then I pass on it, even if everything else looks good.
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    hey, Im learning something here. Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author DarkTangent
    Thanks for the fantastico/Cpanel thing... I have went through this pain also,of not getting indexed.
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  • Profile picture of the author Richard HAN
    LOL... this is the classic example of "How does the blind man eat an elephant?" Ans: One bite at a time.

    It seem a big target to aim for $100 per day, but once you get your first $1, you feel like you're on top of the world. Heck, even John Reese on manage $0.42 on his first day.
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    Any update?
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    A long time coming.

    I am resurrecting this thread from the depth's of the lost graveyard. A lot of things have happened in a last little while that has taken my attention away. Got busy with my business, clients, got a job etc.... Just plain ol life.

    However, my adsense sites have been the same and have not added any since Jan. They are all winter items and hence my low revenue of $8/day. My highest was $40 for one day back in december.

    I have about 10 domains I have bought since Jan that I need to get started on. I am trying to de clutter my life and stay focused. Now that I have income from a job I can focus on good keywords.

    One of my main faults from my previous adsense sites is the CPC. I went for high volume low CPC. It has not worked out that great.

    My focus now is on getting above $2 CPC to make sure I am making good returns.

    Lets see how this goes in round 2.

    Love the feedback from everyone.

    Hope you guys are also doing well.
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  • Profile picture of the author communityn
    Are you just monetizing your sites with just Adsense for content or are you using Adsense for search/domain/feeds. That too should boost some of your adsense revenue. May not work well if you are working only on micro niche sites.
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    • Profile picture of the author ScrapeBoss
      Adsense is really a good way of making money. Even better than the so-called adsense alternatives like adbrite, kontera, etc. Though Google is very strict with their TOS, one could continue to make money on autopilot if those things are followed.

      At the same time, one should not just depend on adsense. Even google does not want a site to be created just for adsense. That is why it is good to mix up the ads with other ones like clickbank, amazon, commission junction, etc. This is just to let google see you don't really depend on their adsense.

      Originally Posted by communityn View Post

      Are you just monetizing your sites with just Adsense for content or are you using Adsense for search/domain/feeds. That too should boost some of your adsense revenue. May not work well if you are working only on micro niche sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author SirAlex
    Nice to see you pop up again Hamburglar.

    And good luck with the new job. It may be a good thing for your online business because it will force you to be more careful and strategic with your time and resources.

    All The Best
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  • Profile picture of the author Clyde
    I would've given up if I were you. Re-asses who you're taking advice from man.

    It's not hard to find keywords with high CPC's if you have a tool that can run while you're asleep.
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    • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
      Originally Posted by unlimitedsubmissions View Post

      I would've given up if I were you. Re-asses who you're taking advice from man.

      It's not hard to find keywords with high CPC's if you have a tool that can run while you're asleep.

      Hey,

      Thanks for your reply. Why would you give up? Could you elaborate. Just a bit confused about your response.

      Thanks man.
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      • Profile picture of the author behnk01
        Save yourself weeks and thousands. If anyone wants to negotiate a direct banner buy outside of adsense you'll make 30-50% more cause thats how much Google takes as a middle man.

        Just sayin...
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    • Profile picture of the author katied772
      <<Hostgator (where i'm doing my niche sites) Wordpress installs are private>>

      Does Hostgator have privacy settings on the regular static sites also? If so, where do I check to see if mine are set to private? Since I switched from SBI to HG earlier this year my traffic and adsense have been in the tank. Now I wonder if this could be a reason.
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  • Profile picture of the author hiroman
    Good luck, try to make huge traffic to your site and it will give you huge adsense earning to
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  • Profile picture of the author 32paul52
    Hi hambuglar,
    Good to see uyou back and acyive- hope is going well!

    Re:

    <Does Hostgator have privacy settings on the regular static sites also? If so, where do I check to see if mine are set to private? Since I switched from SBI to HG earlier this year my traffic and adsense have been in the tank. Now I wonder if this could be a reason. >

    Did you Page URLs change in the move?- that could a reason......
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  • Profile picture of the author Rully
    Pretty quite here....this thread is one of my inspirational story, so keep it up mate
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    Fantastic, hope you the best, hopefully we shall all revell in your success, when it inevitably arrives
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  • Profile picture of the author resiymarko
    I made it this far. in general I give up when I don't see results fast, but this is a long-term commitment. So since no clicks so far, the only thing I can control is promotions and substance.
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  • Profile picture of the author 32paul52
    I went to local meetup.com meeting on internet marketing- got asked lots of questions, but mostly people doing nothing -( key: you have to take a lot of action)

    My adsense is at around $50 a day, i have to say thankyou here to the help I got here, but at the same time, I took a lot of action- not always right, but i fixed things up along the way- this is a get rich slow process!
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    This thread is filled up with great advice all over Thanks all for posting very good tips and sharing the knowledge gained through experience
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  • Profile picture of the author brp002
    Good luck.... $8 a day is like free lunch.... Good Job! Well building your SEO for those websites you can also make some extra money link building with article directories that have adsense revenue sharing.

    Great extra income!
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  • Profile picture of the author fannyballard
    I've done so far. Normally, when I do not see quick results, but it is a long-term commitment. Therefore, since you do not click until now, the only thing I can control is the content and promotions.
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    I've done so far. Usually, I give when I do not see results quickly, but it is a long term commitment. Thus, when no clicks so far, the only thing I can control is the content and promotions.
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  • Profile picture of the author exaltedadam22
    I was really sick lately, so there is no change except that my current site won me $ 2.68 this month. Beyond the goal of 50% to $ 4.
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  • Profile picture of the author Soulofinfamy
    Good luck! Maybe this will also inspire other new publishers
    to take action.
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    Good luck with your adsense efforts. I believe success will come if you stick to it.

    Millardsc
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    Patient is the key to success i also agree with that term
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas De
    You should not only share the risk between several ad partners (i.e. adsense, clickbank, amazon etc.), but also you should have a wide variety of subjects.

    Before the crisis came, beauty websites made a lot of money with adsense, during the crises it was less in that subject, but other subjects grew.
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    • Profile picture of the author John Hocking
      Be careful if you are including ads from other networks on the same page that you make the colors and format be different than your adsense ad blocks


      Competitive Ads and Services


      In order to prevent user confusion, publishers may not display Google ads or search boxes on websites that also contain other ads or services formatted to use the same layout and colours as the Google ads or search boxes on that site. Although you may sell ads directly on your site, it is your responsibility to ensure that these ads cannot be confused with Google ads.
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    • Profile picture of the author ScrapeBoss
      Can some please explain this?

      Originally Posted by jamesmittano View Post

      I asking you the optimum of luck, Hamburglar. I, too, get retributive started to build my own AdSense corporation with the work of Make(internetmarketer99) and I'm only sworn to commencement earning $50/day by October 1st. I react that your $1 first-month end is right on determine but I'm claustrophobic it's so conventional it could be deemed defeatist. Based on the 'Get to $50,000 This Period' mentation awhile position by Book President, it's top to put yourself in the mind-frame of wise that you're deed to follow and tidy gobs
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      • Profile picture of the author peter gibson
        Originally Posted by ScrapeBoss View Post

        Can some please explain this?
        It's a spambot, posted from some sort of spun content and used inside old threads like this. That profile (and others) use these methods to increase a post count so they can further spam members with bogus offers and other such nonsense. He's already posted the same nonsense in at least 3 other old threads that I've seen. It's not English, it's Spamish.

        Reporting posts like these is always a good thing.
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  • Profile picture of the author damonnorris235
    Therefore, since you do not click until now, the only thing I can control is the content and promotions.Normally, when I do not see quick results, but it is a long-term give.
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    • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
      It has been very long since I posted on this thread. Initially, I was reluctant to post anything because of my failure. I started this thread with such great ambition and only within 4 months, I lost steam.

      I let go of all my Xfactor sites except for 10. I got caught up in a new job and lost my top earning sites. Dejected, I became absent from WF and Adsense for 2 years. I threw everything away. For months I beat myself up for not being able to accomplish my goals.

      Fast forward to June 2011. Something happened inside me. I was constantly coming back on WF, even though I was not taking any action. There was something deep inside me that wanted me back in this adsense/IM game. There is this rush I get from thinking how amazing it will be to accomplish my goals.

      So I said **** it and started a site. This time around I focused on:

      - Niche(s) I am passionate about
      - Did not care about earning money but focused on content
      - I picked a niche with 22k exact search

      I launched my website in mid-july amidst fear and insecurity. Fear because of my lack of SEO skills and insecurity cause of my writing. I was never a good writer. But this time I said "**** you man, do the hard work and grind it out".

      I wrote 4 - 5 articles every week. Looking back, the first two months of my content was extremely poor. But now I can spit out a 500 - 700 word well researched article in under 1 hour.

      I worked constantly since July - present. Every day for 8 hours I would write, write and write some more. I let the SEO side of things be handled by amazing warrior's like Isac Choi and Matt Laclear. I cannot thank them enough. Also MartinJ. Seriously those dudes don't b/s. Just straight results.

      Also there is a quote I wrote on my wall that Matt Laclear always mentions on his thread when people get antsy. "12 months is not a long to rank in SERP". I always reflect on this because SEO/websites is about long term success rather than short term gain.

      November 28, 2011 is the day where I shed a tear. My website had actually 60 pages worth of content. My unique views jumped from 20 to 250+. I was ecstatic. I opened my tab, when to google.com, searched my keyword and BAM! I was sitting at #3.

      However, my CTR was sitting at 0%. Nothing earned. I brushed it off my shoulder. It stung that I didn't make any money but my effort was the best shoulder to lean on.

      I started changing the ad placement with the help of fellow warrior (YUKON - great guy for tips) and let it sit. I finally got my CTR to 2% - 3%. It earns an avg of $5/day now. The earnings are very small compared to the guys who make $50/day in 4 months etc...

      This does not stop me at all. It only motivates me as I know the universe is just giving me a lil teaser for what it has in store for me.

      So yea, thats it. I am going to be updating this thread periodically. This road is a long journey, I have come to realized. I am in it to win it.

      Short term goals (3 months):

      Financially: $20/day

      Sites:
      - 15 authority websites.
      - Write 2 - 3 articles per day for each website.
      - keep testing.

      Lesson's learnt

      Traffic and CTR
      Adsense is about Traffic and CTR. CTR is such a huge factor. My clicks are only $.35 but if those were even $3 - $4 each, then my CTR would be beautiful. Since my CTR is low, I must focus on traffic.

      My next step is to focus on niches with exact match > 6000 and CPC > $2. No exceptions.

      Niche Type

      My "xfactor" style sites perform better CTR than my main authority site. This goes to show the niche has a huge impact on whether people will click the ads. Also this gives me a direct line to the demographics of the visitors.

      Alright guys lets keep at this. This time I am here for good. I am in this for 3 years already and have only $5/day to show for it. No matter what, this will work.

      The road might will be long, will be hard but in the end it is I who has to finish.

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      • Profile picture of the author buzzpoint
        Welcome back H~

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        Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

        It has been very long since I posted on this thread. Initially, I was reluctant to post anything because of my failure. I started this thread with such great ambition and only within 4 months, I lost steam...

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  • Profile picture of the author jackpeter20
    This is why I think your goal is a little low. Yes it is very achievable, but maybe setting it a little higher would give you more of a drive to get things going. Not that I don't think you will. You sound motivated and I wish you the best of luck. I will be following your progress.
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    I know my goals are small. I can virtually set that to any amount I want. But here is what I have learnt with google.

    There are too many unknown factors for earning a certain amount. Example. 1 MFA site that gets 20 impressions a day earns more than my authority website that gets 400 - 600 impressions a day.

    Meeting a certain amount per day is based on trial and error. I can only hypothesize what works based on my experience. As in the other thread where Chase earned $40/day in 4 months. He has 48 domains out of 12 are 90% of his income.

    Too many variables. The only aspect that is consistent is the amount of EFFORT one is willing to put.

    I have a snapshot of Shoe' Money's adsense and I look at it every morning and reflect on when I can hold that in my hand.

    I understand where you are coming from though. Thanks for responding.
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    • Profile picture of the author TammieJJ
      Greetings Hamburglar! I followed this thread when you originally started it, and always wondered where you went...thanks for the update! I will look forward to following your new journey. Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    Thank you very much for the love guys.

    I continuing my quest for good keywords. I have found about 3 that I can build Authority sites around. The payouts are very good.

    I will be posting Market Samurai pictures. The EMD's are all taken but I don't care for those any more. My passion and interest in the niche will make them rank
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  • Profile picture of the author tomstark
    Wow, just went through all the pages on this thread... Glad to see you're back at it! I've been doing stuff off and on for a couple years, but basically just on one site. I'm getting a pretty good amount of traffic, but my CTR is terrible. I've tried quite a few things for layout, but it doesn't change much. I'll make my own thread on it though so I don't hijack yours, lol. Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author giseo
    Welcome back.
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    • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
      Update:

      Today's earning: $3.21 @ 2% CTR.

      This is earnings from 3 sites including my authority site.

      Game plan:

      Launch Site #5 (Exact search 6000 $3.21)
      - Setup blog.
      - Setup categories
      - Add 3 pages of content.

      EMD not available so going with prefix.

      SEO Plan: Use Matt's article drip feed service.

      Content Creations attack:

      Find long tail keywords using GAKT then sort by avg CPC. Model articles around those KW's.

      Edit:

      I have made $83 this month so far!
      Last month I made only $81 in total.

      I will be making $160 this month at this rate! Doubled my adsense income!

      Yea!!!!
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      • Profile picture of the author PhilJensen
        Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

        Update:


        I have made $83 this month so far!
        Last month I made only $81 in total.

        I will be making $160 this month at this rate! Doubled my adsense income!

        Yea!!!!
        Good start....keep up the hustle!!
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        • Profile picture of the author markowe
          Originally Posted by PhilJensen View Post

          Good start....keep up the hustle!!
          Keep up, as in, 6 months later..? :-D

          This is why "follow me" threads generally get deleted, as they usually don't get "kept up", they just get bumped by spam bots once in a while...
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  • Profile picture of the author chrislangley
    Nice challenge, it's a great idea to start with baby steps, that way you know what works
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    • Profile picture of the author ranktrackerpro
      Where do you rank for your main keywords?

      If you need to track and chart your keywords (and the related longtail keywords), feel free to use the tool in my signature. This is exactly what it was designed for.

      Judging from your income $ I don't think you're realizing the full potential.

      Also look at the CTR % difference between your ad units. Once you have enough data (large enough sample), you will see that some banner sizes do a lot better (higher click through rate) then others.

      By changing the unit size (or the position of the ad), you get more $ without making any other change related to your SEO, link building or content.
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  • Profile picture of the author michaelvadal
    Hello guys if you have troubled signing up for an adsense account feel free to check this out seo-gigs.com/categories/Adsense

    thanks
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