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Temporary (302) and Permamanet (301) redirection

by chetanlegend
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Dear Members,
hope all is doing well.

I've a questions regarding redirection.
CASE- There are two pages page1 and page2, wanted to perform 302 redirection on page1 to page2 (Page1 temporary redirected to page2)

Questions 1- In this case what will happens? Do crawler will index both pages?
Question-2 - If I wanted to roll back page1 then what should i have to do?
  • Simply remove the 302 redirection code and delete page2, or
  • Remove 302 redirection and implement 301 redirection from page2 to page1?
Thanks in advance.
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  • Profile picture of the author dave_hermansen
    Yep,you got it. You asked and answered your own questions.

    The crawler forwards to the other page. It does not matter whether it indexes them both or not. It doesn't affect your rankings in the least.
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    • Profile picture of the author chetanlegend
      Originally Posted by dave_hermansen View Post

      Yep,you got it. You asked and answered your own questions.

      The crawler forwards to the other page. It does not matter whether it indexes them both or not. It doesn't affect your rankings in the least.
      So, you wanted to say that I just remove the 302 redirection rule and delete the page?
      thats it?
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      • Profile picture of the author dave_hermansen
        Originally Posted by chetanlegend View Post

        So, you wanted to say that I just remove the 302 redirection rule and delete the page?
        thats it?
        Delete which page? Normally, you select a temporary re-direct because you plan on getting rid of the temporary page (page 2, in this case). If that's the case, yes, you get rid of the temporary re-direct and delete the temporary page (page 2).

        If page 2 is replacing page 1, it should have been a permanent 301 re-direct to begin with.
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        • Profile picture of the author chetanlegend
          Originally Posted by dave_hermansen View Post

          Delete which page? Normally, you select a temporary re-direct because you plan on getting rid of the temporary page (page 2, in this case). If that's the case, yes, you get rid of the temporary re-direct and delete the temporary page (page 2).

          If page 2 is replacing page 1, it should have been a permanent 301 re-direct to begin with.
          Thanks Dave, I'm understanding now,
          but If any case I have done both, that is 302 redirection from page1 to page2 and at same time 301 redirection implemented from page2 to page1.
          What would be the scene then?
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          • Profile picture of the author dave_hermansen
            Originally Posted by chetanlegend View Post

            Thanks Dave, I'm understanding now,
            but If any case I have done both, that is 302 redirection from page1 to page2 and at same time 301 redirection implemented from page2 to page1.
            What would be the scene then?
            It depends on which page you want to be active and which one you want to get rid of. Get rid of the re-direction to the page you do not want indexed. Re-direct the one you do not want indexed to the one that you do, permanently. Then delete the page you do not want.

            Whatever you do, don't create an infinite loop of one directing to the other and then back again.
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  • Profile picture of the author paulgl
    Originally Posted by chetanlegend View Post

    Dear Members,
    hope all is doing well.


    Questions 1- In this case what will happens? Do crawler will index both pages?
    Question-2 - If I wanted to roll back page1 then what should i have to do?
    How is google going to index a page that does not exist?

    With 301 you are telling google that page no longer exists.

    302 is a completely different animal and most likely should never be used in any context in things on an SEO forum.

    With 302, you are telling "search engines" that you still want the old one indexed. Well now. You have 2 pages that are essentially the same, potentially. The old one, and the new one. What a dilemma for google. They might think you have duplicate content. They might think you are trying to avoid the end game that a 301 eventually brings. They might actually think you really mean 301. And we are back to square one.

    There is little use for 302 in 2016. It makes no logical sense in today's world.

    You sound as if you have no clue as to how to update and change webpages in a normal fashion.

    Probably the root of your problem.

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    • Profile picture of the author chetanlegend
      Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

      How is google going to index a page that does not exist?

      With 301 you are telling google that page no longer exists.

      302 is a completely different animal and most likely should never be used in any context in things on an SEO forum.

      With 302, you are telling "search engines" that you still want the old one indexed. Well now. You have 2 pages that are essentially the same, potentially. The old one, and the new one. What a dilemma for google. They might think you have duplicate content. They might think you are trying to avoid the end game that a 301 eventually brings. They might actually think you really mean 301. And we are back to square one.

      There is little use for 302 in 2016. It makes no logical sense in today's world.

      You sound as if you have no clue as to how to update and change webpages in a normal fashion.

      Probably the root of your problem.

      Paul
      Hey Paul,

      Thanks a lot for your detailed explanation.
      Actually i'm stuck on a question some one asked to me that if I have 302 redirection and forget it, then is there a possibility to show any error by search engine.
      2nd If i wanted to have page1 back so should I simply put 301 redirection rule on page2 to page1?
      Then what would be the next scene?

      As per my understanding If I forget after implementation 302 redirect, 1st case will be, it will not harm any page. As page1 and page2 are able to crawl, but in 2nd case page1 will lost its value as it have more potential than page2, Right?

      now in 2nd case that is 302 redirection implementation on page1 to page2 and then 301 redirection to page2 to page1 (302 redirection is still exist, it wasn't removed.)
      in this situation, page1 will lost all its potential as page2 potential will be transferred to page1 .
      may i right?

      OR
      Page1 will be more strong because of its own potential and also the potential transferred from page2 via 301 redirection?

      What do you say?
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  • Profile picture of the author hynds
    I think you've already had the answer in you question.

    Simply remove the 302 redirection code and delete page2
    If any case I have done both, that is 302 redirection from page1 to page2 and at same time 301 redirection implemented from page2 to page1.
    In this case I think page2 will not have any worthy, all the SEO value will pass from page2 to page1.
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