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Just starting my first Adsense Site help pls !

by jimkirk1943
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Hi Guys,
Just starting my first adsense site and was wondering if i just copy and paste the adsense code into the body of my blog page ?? And then i can type in the page article below the ansense code ?? Is this how it works ?

Cheers Jim
#adsense #pls #site #starting
  • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
    You can do it manually if you want to track different pages, or there are templates that will allow you to enter your adsense code one time, and will display ads in specific parts of the blog. You can also just add code to widgets on the side so they will appear on every page.
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  • Profile picture of the author NetInvestor
    also use a widget for that. You have to test best places.. depends on your content, niche aso.

    There are many tricks to increase the clickrate for your ads.

    Cheers,

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    • Profile picture of the author jimkirk1943
      Thanks for the replys,
      I want the adsense to by in the top left hand side of my front page not in the side bars or anywhere else just on the front page large block top left hand side.
      Do i just paste the code into my page and then write the article under it ??
      Cheers Jim
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      • Profile picture of the author RhondaGiarraffa
        Use the TEXT widget to place your code in. If it is off center, you can do a little trick to center it in the widget box. <center> YOUR ADSENSE CODE </center>

        Also, I would be careful putting any type of advertising on the left hand side of Blog Pages. When the search engines crawl your blog page, they want to see content. If they think it is a page for advertising only they will leave and not rank you. Crawler search from left to right... Google is picky and want to give the ranking to those that have killer original content in an effort to give those that are searching a good experience. If you have your own website, It's cool to put it on the left hand side. Blog to drive the traffic to your web site if that is your intent. If not, blog to give readers value and keep them coming back to your blog page. The more traffic the better your chances are of having folks clik on your adsense links.

        Oh, as far as putting link ads on your actual page, make sure you use the html option or it will not work. You will also see in that option a button that says code. Hit the code button, place your adsense code and then hit the ending code button. Or you can do it manually. <code> Your Adsense Code </code>

        Hope this helps.

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        • Profile picture of the author Kay King
          I think he is full of shiz.
          No - I think that would be you!

          I add adsense immediately when I build a site - no problems now for 6-7 years.

          You can say it shouldn't be done - and say it doesn't work - but many of us know different. If done right, it works fine.

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          • Profile picture of the author Allyn Hane
            Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

            No - I think that would be you!

            I add adsense immediately when I build a site - no problems now for 6-7 years.

            You can say it shouldn't be done - and say it doesn't work - but many of us know different. If done right, it works fine.

            kay
            you have 11,000 posts here, you are obviously a millionaire at this point. and you are choosing a small portion of the argument. the bigger argument is that his math does not bare out.
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  • Profile picture of the author Spencer Jones
    Can you show me your blog so that I can better direct you. There are great adsense plugins for maximum benefit. But I would like to see your blog first to tell you what's the best place and how to integrate.

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  • Profile picture of the author Craig McPherson
    Jim,

    Simply try what you are saying.
    Paste the code in at the start and hit enter.
    Then start typing. You can preview the post before publishing it.

    Try it and see.
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  • Profile picture of the author handyman
    PM me the link to your site. I can tell you how to do this to maximize CTR.
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    • Profile picture of the author Craig McPherson
      Originally Posted by handymanon View Post

      PM me the link to your site. I can tell you how to do this to maximize CTR.
      I think Jim wants to use FactorX's technique where the 360x226 block is under the title and on top of the content.

      I have tried this on a few sites and have seen CTR rise up to 35%
      Using just this one block and giving the reader no other option.
      (except to hit the x button)
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      • Profile picture of the author Allyn Hane
        hey buddy, you should let your site get indexed and aged for a while (see your keyword stats) before putting Adsense on there. The adsense bot is slow anyway and if you start getting ads not relevant to your content (very likely the way you are talking) then you will get smart priced and end up with .05 clicks forever.
        I dunno who xfactor is, but if he tells you to put adsense on the site brand new, at the same time as he content goes up... you should RUN far away.
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        • Profile picture of the author XFactor
          Originally Posted by Allyn Hane View Post

          I dunno who xfactor is, but if he tells you to put adsense on the site brand new, at the same time as he content goes up... you should RUN far away.
          AL
          I've beed adding Adsense immediately to every new site I've made for the last
          4 years.

          - John
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        • Profile picture of the author vagabondette
          Originally Posted by Allyn Hane View Post

          hey buddy, you should let your site get indexed and aged for a while (see your keyword stats) before putting Adsense on there. The adsense bot is slow anyway and if you start getting ads not relevant to your content (very likely the way you are talking) then you will get smart priced and end up with .05 clicks forever.
          I dunno who xfactor is, but if he tells you to put adsense on the site brand new, at the same time as he content goes up... you should RUN far away.
          AL
          I've never had a problem with this. The last site I did this with was making me $350/week average after 2 weeks... When someone talks in absolutes... you should RUN far away.
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        • Profile picture of the author Craig McPherson
          Originally Posted by Allyn Hane View Post

          I dunno who xfactor is, but if he tells you to put adsense on the site brand new, at the same time as he content goes up... you should RUN far away.
          AL
          ummm....

          Grab a few coffees and read this Al


          http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...learned-7.html

          He is making $300 a day using Adsense.
          To the OP, read the above thread over and over. It is gold. Oh, and don't run anywhere.
          Cheers mate

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        • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
          Originally Posted by Allyn Hane View Post

          hey buddy, you should let your site get indexed and aged for a while (see your keyword stats) before putting Adsense on there. The adsense bot is slow anyway and if you start getting ads not relevant to your content (very likely the way you are talking) then you will get smart priced and end up with .05 clicks forever.
          I dunno who xfactor is, but if he tells you to put adsense on the site brand new, at the same time as he content goes up... you should RUN far away.
          AL
          Smart-pricing does not apply to AdSense. That is an AdWords term.

          I add my code to all of the AdSense sites I lease out and have no issues with clicks and what my clients and I are paid for them. I gotta agree with John.
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          • Profile picture of the author Allyn Hane
            Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

            Smart-pricing does not apply to AdSense. That is an AdWords term.

            I add my code to all of the AdSense sites I lease out and have no issues with clicks and what my clients and I are paid for them. I gotta agree with John.
            smart pricing does apply to publishers as well (but I won't argue this point cux the math is still funky). that is why you see and hear people talking about .05 clicks quite often, even in supposed "high paying" niches. You may not realize you are smart priced either.

            Once one of your sites/niches gets smart prices, your whole account get smart priced.
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      • Profile picture of the author Craig McPherson
        Originally Posted by Craig McPherson View Post

        I think Jim wants to use FactorX's technique where the 360x226 block is under the title and on top of the content.
        My apologies, John, for getting your name all mixed up.

        But Allyn got it right in his post, which is remarkable seeing as though he did not know who you are and I am the only one who mentioned you.
        Originally Posted by Allyn Hane View Post

        I dunno who xfactor is, but if he tells you to put adsense on the site brand new...
        Anyway...
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  • Profile picture of the author Allyn Hane
    ok, well I read a few pages of the xfactor thread, and honestly and bluntly, I think he is full of shiz.
    30+ sites (his admission) at $300 per day? (I think one he said makes $100 per day and is old and established, but still) Not happening on new domains with new content and .25 cent clicks...but you are smart priced most assuredly and getting .05 clicks anyway (I took info from several threads to draw this conclusion and realize my facts are not 100% correct)
    anyway, did he give a screen shot of his adsense account anywhere to prove a 75% CTR and traffic?
    If not, I don't believe it... and I am a drunken skeptic but if you can prove it to me, I will be your biggest backer.
    (and I am not an Adsense noob either, I do well with about 15 adsenes sites, and know many others who do even better, but not 75% CTR and $300 per day with new sites and new content and .05 cent clicks,,,never seen it)
    I agree with much of what he says on lazer targeting specific key words, but it ain't happening with brand new sites in such simplistic terms as he outlines..so maybe we have a case of super over-exaggerating the ease of the process plus not telling the whole truth on traffic to brand new domains..dunno... it just smells like poop up in here.
    flame me eh?
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    • Profile picture of the author vagabondette
      Originally Posted by Allyn Hane View Post

      ok, well I read a few pages of the xfactor thread, and honestly and bluntly, I think he is full of shiz.
      30+ sites (his admission) at $300 per day? (I think one he said makes $100 per day and is old and established, but still) Not happening on new domains with new content and .25 cent clicks...but you are smart priced most assuredly and getting .05 clicks anyway (I took info from several threads to draw this conclusion and realize my facts are not 100% correct)
      anyway, did he give a screen shot of his adsense account anywhere to prove a 75% CTR and traffic?
      If not, I don't believe it... and I am a drunken skeptic but if you can prove it to me, I will be your biggest backer.
      (and I am not an Adsense noob either, I do well with about 15 adsenes sites, and know many others who do even better, but not 75% CTR and $300 per day with new sites and new content and .05 cent clicks,,,never seen it)
      I agree with much of what he says on lazer targeting specific key words, but it ain't happening with brand new sites in such simplistic terms as he outlines..so maybe we have a case of super over-exaggerating the ease of the process plus not telling the whole truth on traffic to brand new domains..dunno... it just smells like poop up in here.
      flame me eh?
      AL
      You might want to re-read. He never said he had 30 new sites that were all bringing in $300/day. He said he makes $300/day from his 30 sites. That's @ $10/day/site which is pretty damn easy if you choose a good niche.

      I'm not sure what you're promoting that you get $.05 clicks but you need to change it. My average click is $.82, I just checked. That's been since day 1.

      Care to comment on the success others are having with that method? It's pretty ballsy to call someone a liar without proof...
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      • Profile picture of the author Allyn Hane
        Originally Posted by vagabondette View Post

        You might want to re-read. He never said he had 30 new sites that were all bringing in $300/day. He said he makes $300/day from his 30 sites. That's @ $10/day/site which is pretty damn easy if you choose a good niche.

        I'm not sure what you're promoting that you get $.05 clicks but you need to change it. My average click is $.82, I just checked. That's been since day 1.

        Care to comment on the success others are having with that method? It's pretty ballsy to call someone a liar without proof...
        I don't get .05 clicks, I said that I think he does with new content on new domains. maybe I did not write properly above, but I understood that 30+ sites brought in a total of $300 per day.,,$10 each avg...still smells like poopage. (BTW-- the word "liar" appears no where in my writing above either..but anyone selling shiz should be ready to defend their claims IMO)

        I don't believe any of the success unless I see it. Lots of people will claim success in order to be a part of the pack and not be odd man/woman out.

        All I am saying is that the math does not seem to work out here.
        First off, "micro" niches don't get that much traffic to begin with.
        Secondly, let's say the xfactor guy averages 50 cents per click (which is HIGHLY unlikely on new domains with new content) then to make $300 per day, that is 600 clicks per day! I dunno how long you have been around the IM world, but there ain't nobody getting 600 clicks per day with just 30 or 40 sites that are newer and in micro niches.
        There are just too many holes in this thing IMO, and like I said, I have been doing this a while. It smells of BS. anyone got a screen shot of the guy's adsenes account? is there one in the book? I would shell out 77 bucks just to see it.

        PS--we are not even getting into the fact that you typically get only about 30 % of the CPC shown in the keyword tool, so 50 cents is a generous figure IMO...
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        • Profile picture of the author vagabondette
          Originally Posted by Allyn Hane View Post

          (BTW-- the word "liar" appears no where in my writing above either..but anyone selling shiz should be ready to defend their claims IMO)
          You don't have to type the word liar to call someone a liar. By saying someone if full of **** you're saying they're not telling the truth which means you're calling them a liar. Own your words.

          As far as proof goes, I'm working on it but for some reason every time I go to the adsense site my browser crashes. If you can tell me how to fix that I'll be happy to post screenshots of my account. I'll post from the week before I launched to show I had no adsense earnings, the week that I launched to show I was bringing in I think $10-20/day (it was a while ago, don't remember specificially) and then the month post launch when I was bringing in about $1000/month. I'll even show you a screen shot of the month before I sold the site for $10k when I made @ $1500. All from a single site...
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          • Profile picture of the author Allyn Hane
            Originally Posted by vagabondette View Post

            You don't have to type the word liar to call someone a liar. By saying someone if full of **** you're saying they're not telling the truth which means you're calling them a liar. Own your words.

            As far as proof goes, I'm working on it but for some reason every time I go to the adsense site my browser crashes. If you can tell me how to fix that I'll be happy to post screenshots of my account. I'll post from the week before I launched to show I had no adsense earnings, the week that I launched to show I was bringing in I think $10-20/day (it was a while ago, don't remember specificially) and then the month post launch when I was bringing in about $1000/month. I'll even show you a screen shot of the month before I sold the site for $10k when I made @ $1500. All from a single site...
            I "own my words" but liar is a stronger one that I care to use. Calling BS (where I come from) is more of a "bust your balls" kinda thing, so we can chalk this one up to cultural differences in language comprehension unless you wanna press the issue...

            anyway, yes I'd love to see your adsense account and you should black out some stuff cuz they do frown on it. I just want to see the proof of the payout per click and the CTR by individual site... that will be enough to prove out what you say and if so and you do indeed at at least 3 sites that make $10 a day each, I will go eat crow on my vid blog and tell my readers you proved me wrong. (thought I still maintain it is NOT easy to get a site to $10 per day with adsense)
            I'd still like to see this John guy do the same cuz my boots are not that high up my knees to drudge thru all this poop.
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      • Profile picture of the author Allyn Hane
        Originally Posted by vagabondette View Post

        You might want to re-read. He never said he had 30 new sites that were all bringing in $300/day. He said he makes $300/day from his 30 sites. That's @ $10/day/site which is pretty damn easy if you choose a good niche.

        I'm not sure what you're promoting that you get $.05 clicks but you need to change it. My average click is $.82, I just checked. That's been since day 1.

        Care to comment on the success others are having with that method? It's pretty ballsy to call someone a liar without proof...
        BTW--$10 per day for one site is NOT easy. I bet you ain't got 3 that make $10 per day each! prove it.
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    I wouldn't post a screenshot of your AdSense page. Google frowns on it. At least blank out CTR, EPC, etc......
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    All I can say is that I just received two clicks today for over $1.30 each for a term, according to spyfu, that commands $0.78 - $3.08 per click. The site is is 2 weeks old and has had AdSense on it since it was brought online. This hardly sounds smart-priced.

    I have about 20 other sites with similar findings.

    In my case, I have no issues. Obviously, some will disagree though.
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    • Profile picture of the author Allyn Hane
      Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

      All I can say is that I just received two clicks today for over $1.30 each for a term, according to spyfu, that commands $0.78 - $3.08 per click. The site is is 2 weeks old and has had AdSense on it since it was brought online. This hardly sounds smart-priced.

      I have about 20 other sites with similar findings.

      In my case, I have no issues. Obviously, some will disagree though.
      it's cool wolf, but let's talk about this a little if you don't mind. What can happen (i have seen it) is that when you put up a site that is NOT getting traffic for the search term you target, you can get smart priced.
      An example would be you target "big blue widgets" but for some reason, you end up getting people coming to the site who search for "widgets with small handles" because you used that somewhere in the content...
      ...however, your adsense ads are displaying ads for "big blue widgets" and the people coming to the site looking for "widgets with small handles" are the ones clicking...BANG, you will get smart priced. (cuz the advertiser is NOT getting the right traffic, decently targeted traffic, but not right on, and Google will not charge him/her the full price of the click, and thus you aint gettin paid the better price either...smart pricing!)
      That is why I say you should wait to place the adsense on a site until you make sure you are targeted properly with your visitors. (I also rec you only show ads to people coming onto the site looking for "big blue widgets" and don't show the ads to anyone else,,,this keeps you 100% targeted)

      That $1.30 could actually be closer to the $3.08 per click (a big difference) if you are targeted right.
      but again, I ain't gonna argue with you... the $1.30 is still good man.
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  • Profile picture of the author vagabondette
    Posting specific EPC or CTR is a violation of Adsense TOS and I'm not going to risk my account to prove you wrong. However, I'll post summaries. The following are all for a single account. I will say though that I got one thing wrong. My last month I didn't make $1500 from adsense, that was total. I only made @ $900 from adsense. The last 2 weeks of when I had this account I had launched a new site. I'll show you the change of stats after I sold my main site so you can see the difference.

    Pic 1 - This is the week prior to my launch to see that I was not earning anything through adsense. In fact it's longer than a week because I wasn't even getting traffic most days.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/2dt16py.jpg

    Pic 2 - This is my first week after I launched on August 24, 08. I made $71.94 in about 7.5 days (launched in the afternoon) but let's call it 8 days so that means I was averaging $9/day in the first week.

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    Pic 3 - This is my first full month with this site. Sept 1, 08-Sept 30, 08. I made $1264.70 which is a little more than $42/day.

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    Pic 4 - This is the final month I owned the site. May 20, 09-June-20, 09. As you can see, my income was down to $918.10 for the month. At that point I'd stopped promoting becuase I was getting ready to sell. I also had another @ $600 in affiliate sales fron that site that month. So that's an average of $30/day for adsense.

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    Pic 5 - This is the week following the sale so you can see the difference that a single site can make. The 7 days post sale I made $18.84. That's about $2.70/day for a site that was still in development and hadn't been officially launched.

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    So what does all that prove? Not much. I'm not saying the results are typical. I'm not saying they're even common. I'm just saying they're possible.
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    • Profile picture of the author Allyn Hane
      Originally Posted by vagabondette View Post

      Posting specific EPC or CTR is a violation of Adsense TOS and I'm not going to risk my account to prove you wrong. However, I'll post summaries. The following are all for a single account. I will say though that I got one thing wrong. My last month I didn't make $1500 from adsense, that was total. I only made @ $900 from adsense. The last 2 weeks of when I had this account I had launched a new site. I'll show you the change of stats after I sold my main site so you can see the difference.

      Pic 1 - This is the week prior to my launch to see that I was not earning anything through adsense. In fact it's longer than a week because I wasn't even getting traffic most days.

      http://i36.tinypic.com/2dt16py.jpg

      Pic 2 - This is my first week after I launched on August 24, 08. I made $71.94 in about 7.5 days (launched in the afternoon) but let's call it 8 days so that means I was averaging $9/day in the first week.

      Image - TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting

      Pic 3 - This is my first full month with this site. Sept 1, 08-Sept 30, 08. I made $1264.70 which is a little more than $42/day.

      Image - TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting

      Pic 4 - This is the final month I owned the site. May 20, 09-June-20, 09. As you can see, my income was down to $918.10 for the month. At that point I'd stopped promoting becuase I was getting ready to sell. I also had another @ $600 in affiliate sales fron that site that month. So that's an average of $30/day for adsense.

      Image - TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting

      Pic 5 - This is the week following the sale so you can see the difference that a single site can make. The 7 days post sale I made $18.84. That's about $2.70/day for a site that was still in development and hadn't been officially launched.

      Image - TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting

      So what does all that prove? Not much. I'm not saying the results are typical. I'm not saying they're even common. I'm just saying they're possible.
      I'll take you for your word (not call you a 'liar') but still this does NOT prove that the John guy's methods work as he states (which is what this little rant was about at first when I jumped in). What you showed above really proves nothing to be honest...summaries are just that, summaries, not specific proof that this xfactor guy isn't shoveling manure. I guess I thought you were gonna prove out his methods. (but you have done a nice job with the one site... good on ya!)

      xfactor dude says to put adsense on new sites with brand new content, your stuff above shows nothing of that sort. You show one big site, but the xfactor dude says that he has moved away from that and now builds multiple sites that make about $10 per day each...

      I happen to have one site that does pretty hefty income per month in adsense by itself but it is NOT new and doesn't get a 75% CTR either. I don't know anyone who gets that. I also don't know anyone who builds brand new micro niche sites, hits number one with an article submit, and then generates enough keyword traffic to make 100 or 200 clicks per day. This math DOES NOT work! Only a total noob would believe that.

      You also mentioned above that is was 'easy' get get a site to $10 per day in adsense, but your screen shots show nothing of this sort.
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      • Profile picture of the author vagabondette
        My post was in response to your statement that if you put adsense on your site immediately you'll be 'smart priced' and not make anything. That is blatantly untrue. My first week I was making almost $9/day. My first month was more than 4 times that. So obviously I didn't get smart priced did I? That site is 10 pages, took me about 15 hours to build and only about an hour a week to maintain. I'd call that easy.

        But hey, you seem convinced that you're correct even though there are several people who know from personal experience that you're not. But that's your choice. I guess it's easier to stick with what you know than open your mind to new ideas - even if they might make you more money in the long run. Refusing to try new methods is a great way to ensure that you never progress.

        As to John's methods, I don't know for sure if they work because I've not tried them. But, I'm going to be starting a 60 day challenge on my site using his method. I'll be posting results (income and traffic) daily. I'm starting tomorrow and I'll ad a link in my sig so feel free to come over and take a gander.
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        • Profile picture of the author Allyn Hane
          Originally Posted by vagabondette View Post

          My post was in response to your statement that if you put adsense on your site immediately you'll be 'smart priced' and not make anything. That is blatantly untrue. My first week I was making almost $9/day. My first month was more than 4 times that. So obviously I didn't get smart priced did I? That site is 10 pages, took me about 15 hours to build and only about an hour a week to maintain. I'd call that easy.

          But hey, you seem convinced that you're correct even though there are several people who know from personal experience that you're not. But that's your choice. I guess it's easier to stick with what you know than open your mind to new ideas - even if they might make you more money in the long run. Refusing to try new methods is a great way to ensure that you never progress.

          As to John's methods, I don't know for sure if they work because I've not tried them. But, I'm going to be starting a 60 day challenge on my site using his method. I'll be posting results (income and traffic) daily. I'm starting tomorrow and I'll ad a link in my sig so feel free to come over and take a gander.
          maybe we had a breakdown somewhere, I thought you were defending this xfactor dude cuz I said he was full of poopy.
          also, there is no opening your mind up to stuff that just ain't happening. it's like opening my mind up to the fact that the sky is purple when that is just not true.
          he ain't getting 600 clicks per day on 30 brand new micro niche sites... not happening!

          PS--you might have been smart priced and just not know it. if your .82 per click could have been $4 you'd not know would you?
          if you reveal the niche and payouts and keywords that brought in visitors, I can tell you if you were priced or not... you are not risking your adsene account cuz you don't use your real name here.
          lemme know if you really wanna know,
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          • Profile picture of the author DireStraits
            Originally Posted by Allyn Hane View Post

            maybe we had a breakdown somewhere, I thought you were defending this xfactor dude cuz I said he was full of poopy.
            also, there is no opening your mind up to stuff that just ain't happening. it's like opening my mind up to the fact that the sky is purple when that is just not true.
            he ain't getting 600 clicks per day on 30 brand new micro niche sites... not happening!

            PS--you might have been smart priced and just not know it. if your .82 per click could have been $4 you'd not know would you?
            if you reveal the niche and payouts and keywords that brought in visitors, I can tell you if you were priced or not... you are not risking your adsene account cuz you don't use your real name here.
            lemme know if you really wanna know,
            AL
            Being skeptical is good but there have been many people using XFactors methods post their own experiences and results on these forums, and what incentive would they have to bulls*hit everyone? There's nothing in it for them.

            I set up a coupel of sites after being inspired by XFactors thread, got them both indexed in Google within about 24 hours, and within 48 hours I had put Adsense on both of them.

            At that time, each site only had about 3 pages of content, and had no backlinks.

            I was ranking position 7 or higher for my sites main keywords for both domains.

            I started receiving clicks from what little traffic I was receiving (after adding more pages and going up in the rankings I started to get more) almost straight away. If i recall, my first click (within 24 hours) was for about $0.50, and my second and third clicks were for about $2.50 apiece.

            My account is in UK pounds/pence, so I'm converting to US dollars, but basically that's been my experience.

            As I'm getting better at judging and researching keywords, so too is the predictability increasing of new sites that I launch.

            I don't want to babble onin too much detail except to say that XFactors method works, and it works well. Call it bull**** all you want.. if you don't believe it, try it.

            I suspect the main reason why it works well is a combination of 3 things:

            - "laster targetted traffic", as you say.
            - sites are product based (people are in "buying mode", and like to click on ads about related products).
            - only one ad block per page, therefor you get the highest EPC each time.
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            • Profile picture of the author Allyn Hane
              Originally Posted by DireStraits View Post

              Being skeptical is good but there have been many people using XFactors methods post their own experiences and results on these forums, and what incentive would they have to bulls*hit everyone? There's nothing in it for them.

              I set up a coupel of sites after being inspired by XFactors thread, got them both indexed in Google within about 24 hours, and within 48 hours I had put Adsense on both of them.

              At that time, each site only had about 3 pages of content, and had no backlinks.

              I was ranking position 7 or higher for my sites main keywords for both domains.

              I started receiving clicks from what little traffic I was receiving (after adding more pages and going up in the rankings I started to get more) almost straight away. If i recall, my first click (within 24 hours) was for about $0.50, and my second and third clicks were for about $2.50 apiece.

              My account is in UK pounds/pence, so I'm converting to US dollars, but basically that's been my experience.

              As I'm getting better at judging and researching keywords, so too is the predictability increasing of new sites that I launch.

              I don't want to babble onin too much detail except to say that XFactors method works, and it works well. Call it bull**** all you want.. if you don't believe it, try it.

              I suspect the main reason why it works well is a combination of 3 things:

              - "laster targetted traffic", as you say.
              - sites are product based (people are in "buying mode", and like to click on ads about related products).
              - only one ad block per page, therefor you get the highest EPC each time.
              I agree with the methods for the most part, and indexing has nothing to do with it.
              the problem is the 30 new(er) sites making $10 a day each in micro niches. that is impossible and I will continue to say that. I know adsense well enough to know that when you have multiple sites like that you will get smart priced, especially when the code is placed from the jump.
              if you told me he made $300 per day from 100 sites, that would be more believable.
              Cmon xfactor guy: pony up and show us your .05 clicks man! (which he can't show because then the math changes and he'd be needing to get like 6,000 clicks per day in order to stay at the 3-400 dollar a day level.

              you guys are using single site examples. go build 25 sites and see what happens after about 4-6 weeks or sooner to your adsense account.
              whatever, seriously, go spend the $77 and have fun. The truth is that most people who buy that book will never build more than 5 sites anyway becuase when they realize it takes time, they will give up.
              ...maybe because their expectations were set improperly. JMO
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              • Profile picture of the author DireStraits
                It's true what you say about people not having the drive and dedication to go past building 5 sites.

                Personally I've already built (and continue to build) more than that. I have the drive because of my circumstances. For me, there's no option.

                I know what smart pricing is and I know how and when it can be applied. However, I'm failing to grasp here why you believe putting ads on sooner rather than later would necessarily result in untargetted ads in the majority of cases and thus result in smart pricing?

                When you're indexed in Googles SERPs, the bot/spider that visits your site is not the same bot that visits your site to determine what adsense ads would be relevant - that is the ad bot, right?

                In that case, WHENEVER you put adsense on your site, it's going to take time for Googles ad bot to read it and determine what ads are relevant. It shouldn't matter if the site is 5 minutes old or 5 years old - if there's never been Adsense on that site, the ad bot will have had no interest in visiting it (and thus may never have visited it) and thus Google will never make the decision about which ads to show until the day you integrate the code and start getting impressions... surely?
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                • Profile picture of the author Allyn Hane
                  Originally Posted by DireStraits View Post

                  It's true what you say about people not having the drive and dedication to go past building 5 sites.

                  Personally I've already built (and continue to build) more than that. I have the drive because of my circumstances. For me, there's no option.

                  I know what smart pricing is and I know how and when it can be applied. However, I'm failing to grasp here why you believe putting ads on sooner rather than later would necessarily result in untargetted ads in the majority of cases and thus result in smart pricing?

                  When you're indexed in Googles SERPs, the bot/spider that visits your site is not the same bot that visits your site to determine what adsense ads would be relevant - that is the ad bot, right?

                  In that case, WHENEVER you put adsense on your site, it's going to take time for Googles ad bot to read it and determine what ads are relevant. It shouldn't matter if the site is 5 minutes old or 5 years old - if there's never been Adsense on that site, the ad bot will have had no interest in visiting it (and thus may never have visited it) and thus Google will never make the decision about which ads to show until the day you integrate the code and start getting impressions... surely?
                  its that you need to wait and see that the keywords searchers use to find your site are the same ones you have targeted. see my example above with "blue widgets" and "widgets with small handles"
                  I have built enough sites to know that even with the "tightest" keyword targeting, you still get ranked for obscure search terms and get traffic for those terms and it only takes a couple of those people clicking ads before you get priced.
                  remember, the advertiser pays Google for highly targeted traffic and if your content is telling the adsense bot to show ads for "blue widgets" and people are coming into the site looking for "widgets with small handles" and clicking on "blue widget" ads, that is NOT good and Google will only charge the advertiser a small fraction of the price he bid... SMART PRICING, meaning you only get paid a small fraction of the small fraction. (.05 clicks)
                  THAT is why you NEVER put adsense on a site until you see the visitors shake out...

                  Anyway, this is how I am pretty sure that xfactor dude is smart priced because no one can be perfect like that on multiple sites, not possible. One site?,,, yes, you could get lucky, but more than 10 or 15, nope, no without waiting to see how your visitors and traffic shake out.
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                  • Profile picture of the author DireStraits
                    Sure... but that's always going to be a problem.

                    Show me a page that is indexed and ranked for ONLY it's intentionally targetted terms and receives no traffic whatsoever - EVER - from long-tail searches that have little or no relevance to said page. The fact of the matter is (particularly if you're going to follow the advice of someone like Grizzly Brears and use long content which is good for SEO) you will always rank for some obscure search terms.

                    To try to stop that is pretty futile as for each content readjustment you make, you'll just inadvertantly rank for different long tails.

                    Not only that, but the bigger your site is / the more frequently content is added (and indeed the more varied), the more chance you'll be ranking for terms that are completely unrelated to the ads your page is displaying.

                    What's the solution? To never display advertisements for any new posts until you've spent days analyzing the stats to each page?

                    In that case, we'd be spending all day of every day analyzing statistics for each and every page/post, and constantly readjusting our content.

                    Not to mention those people who run blogs with comments.. they cannot control each and every comment (which counts as content also) and control what search terms those might be responsible for making them rank for.

                    I don't see a solution, really.

                    EDIT: That is a problem, but it's a flaw in the way Google Adsense works. If they want to correct that problem, they should switch Adsense to work like Chitika, so that ads only show for people who come from search engines, and only for the exact search term they used. They chose to base it on content and should know full well that doing so means people will come to the site having searched for something quite unrelated at times. That is just how things are. What about sites with tons of type-in traffic anyway? Google has no idea what those visitors came to that site looking for.. yet I've personally still clicked Adsense ads a ton of times just our of sheer curiosity, with no intention to buy what was on offer. That's a problem, but it's one Google realize.

                    If it was that easy to screw up your earnings, all you (or your competitors) have to do is submit a site to StumbleUpon (or other social site), watch a ton of untargetted traffic pour in, bank on a few of them clicking on the ads and bam - that site is suddenly earning jack crap because they've been smart-priced.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Allyn Hane
                      Originally Posted by DireStraits View Post

                      Sure... but that's always going to be a problem.

                      Show me a page that is indexed and ranked for ONLY it's intentionally targetted terms and receives no traffic whatsoever - EVER - from long-tail searches that have little or no relevance to said page. The fact of the matter is (particularly if you're going to follow the advice of someone like Grizzly Brears and use long content which is good for SEO) you will always rank for some obscure search terms.

                      To try to stop that is pretty futile as for each content readjustment you make, you'll just inadvertantly rank for different long tails.

                      Not only that, but the bigger your site is / the more frequently content is added (and indeed the more varied), the more chance you'll be ranking for terms that are completely unrelated to the ads your page is displaying.

                      What's the solution? To never display advertisements for any new posts until you've spent days analyzing the stats to each page?

                      In that case, we'd be spending all day of every day analyzing statistics for each and every page/post, and constantly readjusting our content.

                      Not to mention those people who run blogs with comments.. they cannot control each and every comment (which counts as content also) and control what search terms those might be responsible for making them rank for.

                      I don't see a solution, really.

                      EDIT: That is a problem, but it's a flaw in the way Google Adsense works. If they want to correct that problem, they should switch Adsense to work like Chitika, so that ads only show for people who come from search engines, and only for the exact search term they used. They chose to base it on content and should know full well that doing so means people will come to the site having searched for something quite unrelated at times. That is just how things are. What about sites with tons of type-in traffic anyway? Google has no idea what those visitors came to that site looking for.. yet I've personally still clicked Adsense ads a ton of times just our of sheer curiosity, with no intention to buy what was on offer. That's a problem, but it's one Google realize.

                      If it was that easy to screw up your earnings, all you (or your competitors) have to do is submit a site to StumbleUpon (or other social site), watch a ton of untargetted traffic pour in, bank on a few of them clicking on the ads and bam - that site is suddenly earning jack crap because they've been smart-priced.
                      I use a software that displays the adsense only to searchers who arrive via the exact keyword phrase I choose (so it does work like chitika). THAT is how you get maximum click payouts on minimum traffic. MICRO niche sites are just that..."micro", meaning not a lot of traffic...thus...

                      ...even still, the math of the xfactor dude does not play out. 30 micro niche sites generating 600 clicks per day (if he gets 50 cents per click) is not happening, ain't that much traffic in 30 micro niches and if there way, he would not be able to rank #1 in ALL of them anyway. You sheep can follow all you want and tell me I am wrong, but ain't a one-a-ya gettin 30 sites to make $10 per day each average.
                      And even more of you have those .05 clicks I talk about, but you are too embarrassed to reveal it.
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    So to be clear you come in and make accusations of lying (you can dress it up anyway you want but if you say someone isn't telling the truth about what they present as facts you are accusing them of lying) based on... that you don't think that you can do it?

    And yet you do that whilst admitting you can't be bothered to read through teh thread, without digging deeper into facts (6 months later as the THREAD title should give you a good clue as to how long it took him to get there, not instant) and basically slag off someone who spent a lot of time coming back to help people free of charge without offering anything yourself and no real basis for making that accusation.

    Hell exactly WHAT is it you are trying to do?

    Call 'poo' on someone because they havent put up an adsense screen shot (which even at my limited knowledge could probably fake easily enough)?

    Based on a couple of guesses which ignore certain facts and generally bad mouths for, what I can see, the sake of making a name for yourself.

    Well good on ya, have fun with that, but I'd try have a bit more about you when screaming foul than saying 'I don't know anyone that can do that' and 'I want to see his adsense screen shot'
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    • Profile picture of the author Allyn Hane
      Originally Posted by John Hixson View Post

      So to be clear you come in and make accusations of lying (you can dress it up anyway you want but if you say someone isn't telling the truth about what they present as facts you are accusing them of lying) based on... that you don't think that you can do it?

      And yet you do that whilst admitting you can't be bothered to read through teh thread, without digging deeper into facts (6 months later as the THREAD title should give you a good clue as to how long it took him to get there, not instant) and basically slag off someone who spent a lot of time coming back to help people free of charge without offering anything yourself and no real basis for making that accusation.

      Hell exactly WHAT is it you are trying to do?

      Call 'poo' on someone because they havent put up an adsense screen shot (which even at my limited knowledge could probably fake easily enough)?

      Based on a couple of guesses which ignore certain facts and generally bad mouths for, what I can see, the sake of making a name for yourself.

      Well good on ya, have fun with that, but I'd try have a bit more about you when screaming foul than saying 'I don't know anyone that can do that' and 'I want to see his adsense screen shot'
      ok, go buy the book for $77 then and see if you can get 600 clicks on 6 month domains when you place the adsense on there from the jump. do it and waste your $77
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    Hi Jim,

    You can find everything you need here in the WF to help; plus there is at lease one credible free report I know you can get access to.

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