Autoblogging and Adsense legit?

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Is it okay to use autoblogs or autoposter plugins with Adsense? I was about to experiment with a couple blogs but I don't want to risk losing my Adsense account.

I can't find any information about this anywhere, but it seems like I've seen somewhere that it wasn't okay.
#adsense #autoblogging #legit
  • Profile picture of the author RGallowitz
    Google doesn't really like Adsense on autoblogs. They have banned many adsense accounts due to spammy autoblogs.

    If however you first produce the autoblog and making sure that it's a quality autoblog with readable content, then you can definitely go ahead and use Adsense.


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  • Profile picture of the author raynman
    Is what comes from UAW considered spammy? I was going to try and set up an adsense blog with UAW feeding into it. Bad idea? I was going to throw some of my own work in there as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author RGallowitz
    As long as your autoblog is a QUALITY blog then you won't have a problem.

    If you are going to throw adsense on a crappy site where the articles isn't readable then you might get banned.

    But if you build a QUALITY autoblog site which people will actually visit to read, then you have a winner.

    It's all about quality...always.


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    • Profile picture of the author raynman
      Cool. Thanks.
      Originally Posted by RGallowitz View Post

      As long as your autoblog is a QUALITY blog then you won't have a problem.

      If you are going to throw adsense on a crappy site where the articles isn't readable then you might get banned.

      But if you build a QUALITY autoblog site which people will actually visit to read, then you have a winner.

      It's all about quality...always.


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      • Profile picture of the author Karan Goel
        See this autoblog.

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        PR 4 and using Adsense. I think they would allow you too, if you have the right placements.
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        • Profile picture of the author DogScout
          Originally Posted by K Goel View Post

          See this autoblog.

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          PR 4 and using Adsense. I think they would allow you too, if you have the right placements.
          It would appear your PR4 is gone. (Unless something is wrong with my script, but it is working OK everywhere else.) As soon as a human checks it and it is determined to be an AB, the PR is the 1st thing to go.
          They may not ever close your AD account based on a well done AB like this one, but they don't like them. And since PR doesn't 'appear' to effect rankings at this time, that is really not an issue for our purposes usually. It is important that you understand that eventually a Google human is bound to visit and check page sources etc and classify it for what it is. (Not nessesarily a 'bad' thing, just not deserving of a PR4 it would seem by looking at this one which IS well done! good job on that!)
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          • Profile picture of the author Solidsnake
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            Originally Posted by DogScout View Post

            It would appear your PR4 is gone. (Unless something is wrong with my script, but it is working OK everywhere else.) As soon as a human checks it and it is determined to be an AB, the PR is the 1st thing to go.
            They may not ever close your AD account based on a well done AB like this one, but they don't like them. And since PR doesn't 'appear' to effect rankings at this time, that is really not an issue for our purposes usually. It is important that you understand that eventually a Google human is bound to visit and check page sources etc and classify it for what it is. (Not nessesarily a 'bad' thing, just not deserving of a PR4 it would seem by looking at this one which IS well done! good job on that!)
            PR4 is still there according to my searchstatus...
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        • Profile picture of the author ron.the.bull
          Originally Posted by Karan Goel View Post

          See this autoblog.

          Mashget

          PR 4 and using Adsense. I think they would allow you too, if you have the right placements.
          BTW, this prize PR4 autoblog only has its root URL index by Google. They obviously penalized it.

          Autoblogs are spam. Autobloggers are spammers. Google has stated many times that they are working to cut out spam.

          Choose a sustainable business plan. Spamming is not one.
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          • Profile picture of the author atwellpub
            Not all autoblogs are spam. When I have time I like to make automation sites that provide good content organization services using content sources that liked to be used... like amazon and youtube. And many will use automation for reselling affiliate items.

            So there is a movement which opinions hate on, and I understand, but not all autoblogs are splogs built by integrity disregarding developers. Some autoblogs provide service and any blog that can use automation to provide a superior channel of serving information, even if it is an aggregate of other blog sources, is a worthy internet property in my opinion.

            Take for example. I want to keep informed about Robots, and robot builders around the world, and over the years I collect a good list of blogs and newsletters that talk about the state of affairs. I then make a blog collecting the information in a central location and set it to run on automation. Here I have created jewel of a blog, automatically populated with the material I want to read about, and will most likely end up serving not only myself but many readers, who likewisse will have a chance of visiting other information channels that they might have never ran into on their own time.

            Great example of how not all autoblogs are crap. Because I am pretty sure I'm subscribed to an autoblog just like that:
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            Originally Posted by ron.the.bull View Post

            BTW, this prize PR4 autoblog only has its root URL index by Google. They obviously penalized it.

            Autoblogs are spam. Autobloggers are spammers. Google has stated many times that they are working to cut out spam.

            Choose a sustainable business plan. Spamming is not one.
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              • Profile picture of the author paulgl
                These threads are gateways to "I got my adsense account banned..."

                You cannot be assured just because someone else does it. You
                know nothing about them or their site.

                Just because someone gets away with it, makes money, is no
                reason for me to do the same.

                Autoblogging is just wrong on so many levels. Many aspects are
                clearly, clearly against adsense TOS.

                But because it is not specifically spelled out, we end up with
                "I got my adsense banned for no reason...."

                Google wants adsense on websites that provide a quality, valuable,
                unique experience for visitors. Because all of these are subjective
                terms, people err on the side of "whatever I can get away with."

                They should be erring on the side of "I will never, ever take any
                chances with my adsense account."

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  • I'm pretty sure that the AdSense TOU specifies original, unique content.
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    • Profile picture of the author RGallowitz
      Originally Posted by SurviveUnemployment View Post

      I'm pretty sure that the AdSense TOU specifies original, unique content.
      Very true.

      It would be foolish to have an entire blog filled with only duplicate content.
      A autoblog should be a hybrid between original content and rss content.

      So to be safe, outsource fresh article content on a weekly basis.
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      • Profile picture of the author Glenn Leader
        Originally Posted by RGallowitz View Post

        Very true.

        It would be foolish to have an entire blog filled with only duplicate content.
        A autoblog should be a hybrid between original content and rss content.

        So to be safe, outsource fresh article content on a weekly basis.
        This isn't needed. The so called duplicate content
        penalty is a myth. I have many blogs that do well
        on Adsense using duplicate content exclusively.

        To the OP:
        As long as you use quality content, and preferably
        dripped in, you'll be fine.

        HTH

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        • Profile picture of the author RGallowitz
          Originally Posted by Glenn Leader View Post

          This isn't needed. The so called duplicate content penalty is a myth.
          Can you back that up? Because as far as I know from testing, the duplicate content filter DOES exist. There is a reason for the supplemental index. This doesn't mean you won't rank for duplicate content (one can easily). The page will just not carry as much pagerank weight in value as the original piece and that is and unfortunate fact (according to Matt Cutts)

          I'd say it is foolish to say it's a myth.
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    • Profile picture of the author Andrew Stevens
      Originally Posted by SurviveUnemployment View Post

      I'm pretty sure that the AdSense TOU specifies original, unique content.
      I read the complete Adsense terms and couldn't find any mention of unique content or no duplicate content. If you are seeing something I am not in the terms could you please point it out to me?
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  • Profile picture of the author Derek60
    Quality get the payment. If someone give quality work it will be rewarded.
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    As far as I know a site with Adsense ads on it must comply with the Webmaster Guidelines. The Webmaster Guidelines demand unique content.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mattk
      Originally Posted by affiliated survivor View Post

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      As far as I know a site with Adsense ads on it must comply with the Webmaster Guidelines. The Webmaster Guidelines demand unique content.
      Then how can EZA have up 5 different adsense blocks? They don't have any original "unique content".
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        Sites like EZA with high traffic have special arrangements with google - you can't compare them to a new blog or site. They are within the guidelines but may have different guidelines.

        I wouldn't ad adsense to an autoblog because I value my adsense account - but that doesn't mean it shouldn't or can't be done. Just do it with the understanding that it could be a problem. If you are banned from adsense there is very little chance the ban will be reversed.

        They don't have any original "unique content".
        Why would you think that? There is a lot of unique content on EZA - from writers who submit only to EZA.
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        • Profile picture of the author Mattk
          Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

          Sites like EZA with high traffic have special arrangements with google - you can't compare them to a new blog or site. They are within the guidelines but may have different guidelines.

          I wouldn't ad adsense to an autoblog because I value my adsense account - but that doesn't mean it shouldn't or can't be done. Just do it with the understanding that it could be a problem. If you are banned from adsense there is very little chance the ban will be reversed.



          Why would you think that? There is a lot of unique content on EZA - from writers who submit only to EZA.
          I guess I shouldn't have used the word "any", I should have used the word "some"

          There are a lot of people that add to their own site first before submitting to EZA. They also submit the same content to other directories as well.

          If I had to take a shot in the dark, I would say there is less than half of all the content on EZA is exclusive to EZA. This is just a guess and it is my own opinion from seeing the same articles on many different directories.
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      • Profile picture of the author kwality
        Ezine articles and about.com have special deals witrh google where they are allowed more adsense blocks.
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    • Profile picture of the author Andrew Stevens
      Originally Posted by affiliated survivor View Post

      @A1Guru
      As far as I know a site with Adsense ads on it must comply with the Webmaster Guidelines. The Webmaster Guidelines demand unique content.
      I've read the Adsense terms and didn't catch anything about unique or duplicate content.

      I also just read the entire Webmaster Guidlines.

      In the Webmaster Guidelines there is a link:
      • Don't create multiple pages, subdomains, or domains with substantially duplicate content.
      From what I can see Google is referring to making multiple pages on your own site that has content that is duplicate from other pages on your site.

      Here is the whole link on the Google Webmaster Guidelines about duplicate content:

      Duplicate content

      Print
      Duplicate content generally refers to substantive blocks of content within or across domains that either completely match other content or are appreciably similar. Mostly, this is not deceptive in origin. Examples of non-malicious duplicate content could include:
      • Discussion forums that can generate both regular and stripped-down pages targeted at mobile devices
      • Store items shown or linked via multiple distinct URLs
      • Printer-only versions of web pages
      If your site contains multiple pages with largely identical content, there are a number of ways you can indicate your preferred URL to Google. (This is called "canonicalization".) More information about canonicalization.


      However, in some cases, content is deliberately duplicated across domains in an attempt to manipulate search engine rankings or win more traffic. Deceptive practices like this can result in a poor user experience, when a visitor sees substantially the same content repeated within a set of search results.


      Google tries hard to index and show pages with distinct information. This filtering means, for instance, that if your site has a "regular" and "printer" version of each article, and neither of these is blocked with a noindex meta tag, we'll choose one of them to list. In the rare cases in which Google perceives that duplicate content may be shown with intent to manipulate our rankings and deceive our users, we'll also make appropriate adjustments in the indexing and ranking of the sites involved. As a result, the ranking of the site may suffer, or the site might be removed entirely from the Google index, in which case it will no longer appear in search results.


      There are some steps you can take to proactively address duplicate content issues, and ensure that visitors see the content you want them to.
      • Use 301s: If you've restructured your site, use 301 redirects ("RedirectPermanent") in your .htaccess file to smartly redirect users, Googlebot, and other spiders. (In Apache, you can do this with an .htaccess file; in IIS, you can do this through the administrative console.)
      • Be consistent: Try to keep your internal linking consistent. For example, don't link to http://www.example.com/page/ and http://www.example.com/page and http://www.example.com/page/index.htm.
      • Use top-level domains: To help us serve the most appropriate version of a document, use top-level domains whenever possible to handle country-specific content. We're more likely to know that example.de - Ank√ľndigung Ausstellung Oktoberfest M√ľnchen contains Germany-focused content, for instance, than http://www.example.com/de or http://de.example.com.
      • Syndicate carefully: If you syndicate your content on other sites, Google will always show the version we think is most appropriate for users in each given search, which may or may not be the version you'd prefer. However, it is helpful to ensure that each site on which your content is syndicated includes a link back to your original article. You can also ask those who use your syndicated material to use the noindex meta tag to prevent search engines from indexing their version of the content.
      • Use Webmaster Tools to tell us how you prefer your site to be indexed: You can tell Google your preferred domain (for example, Example Web Page or Example Web Page).
      • Minimize boilerplate repetition: For instance, instead of including lengthy copyright text on the bottom of every page, include a very brief summary and then link to a page with more details. In addition, you can use the Parameter Handling tool to specify how you would like Google to treat URL parameters.
      • Avoid publishing stubs: Users don't like seeing "empty" pages, so avoid placeholders where possible. For example, don't publish pages for which you don't yet have real content. If you do create placeholder pages, use the noindex meta tag to block these pages from being indexed.
      • Understand your content management system: Make sure you're familiar with how content is displayed on your web site. Blogs, forums, and related systems often show the same content in multiple formats. For example, a blog entry may appear on the home page of a blog, in an archive page, and in a page of other entries with the same label.
      • Minimize similar content: If you have many pages that are similar, consider expanding each page or consolidating the pages into one. For instance, if you have a travel site with separate pages for two cities, but the same information on both pages, you could either merge the pages into one page about both cities or you could expand each page to contain unique content about each city.
      Google no longer recommends blocking crawler access to duplicate content on your website, whether with a robots.txt file or other methods. If search engines can't crawl pages with duplicate content, they can't automatically detect that these URLs point to the same content and will therefore effectively have to treat them as separate, unique pages. A better solution is to allow search engines to crawl these URLs, but mark them as duplicates by using the rel="canonical" link element, the URL parameter handling tool, or 301 redirects. In cases where duplicate content leads to us crawling too much of your website, you can also adjust the crawl rate setting in Webmaster Tools.


      Duplicate content on a site is not grounds for action on that site unless it appears that the intent of the duplicate content is to be deceptive and manipulate search engine results. If your site suffers from duplicate content issues, and you don't follow the advice listed above, we do a good job of choosing a version of the content to show in our search results.


      However, if our review indicated that you engaged in deceptive practices and your site has been removed from our search results, review your site carefully. If your site has been removed from our search results, review our webmaster guidelines for more information. Once you've made your changes and are confident that your site no longer violates our guidelines, submit your site for reconsideration.


      If you find that another site is duplicating your content by scraping (misappropriating and republishing) it, it's unlikely that this will negatively impact your site's ranking in Google search results pages. If you do spot a case that's particularly frustrating, you are welcome to file a DMCA request to claim ownership of the content and request removal of the other site from Google's index.
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    • Profile picture of the author DogScout
      Originally Posted by affiliated survivor View Post

      @A1Guru
      As far as I know a site with Adsense ads on it must comply with the Webmaster Guidelines. The Webmaster Guidelines demand unique content.
      If so, that is so new, I cannot find it!
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  • Profile picture of the author mine1718
    No mate, if your autoblog has quality content , you will be okay, spam is definitely NOT good. If your site has pure quality, then here comes the money
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  • Profile picture of the author kwality
    Try to use a mix of fresh content and autoblogging. Many sites use duplicate content from other sources, case in point the any site that uses associated press content. But try to keep it 60 percent duplicate and 40 percent unique content.
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  • Profile picture of the author Solidsnake
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    I tested many plugins and only one plugin works best so far... The yahoo answer plugin by wordpress robot... Why this is better? because even if the posts are short, it is interactive.. Answers are converted into comments, that makes every post interactive.. Besides, yahoo allows republication as long as you put "powered by yahoo answer"..

    An example of autoblog with yahoo answer:
    Best Way to Burn Fat

    An example of post with a lot of comments/answers.. looks interactive and does make sense..
    What Are The Fat Burning Foods? And Please Let Me Know The Quantity Of Their Intake To Burn Fat? | Best Way To Burn Fat

    Another thing I noticed it, not too many people syndicates yahoo answers.. Unlike article directories, articles are published dozen times...
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  • Profile picture of the author Glassjaw009
    Yes, placing adsense on an autoblog with solely 100% ripped content is against the adsense terms of service. Does this stop people from doing it? Absolutely not. If you can stay under the radar and not cause too much attention to yourself, you're *probably* going to be fine, but it's a risk you've got to weigh.

    In regards to Ezine not having original content - they do. Most people write original article to submit to Ezine because they know that just scraping somebody else's content isn't going to get them very far. Just because Ezine itself doesn't produce the content doesn't mean it's not original. Hope this helps.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mattk
      Originally Posted by Glassjaw009 View Post

      Just because Ezine itself doesn't produce the content doesn't mean it's not original. Hope this helps.
      You will see in my post that the word "Unique" was in quotes, not original. Now try and tell me EZA uses all "unique" content
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    • Profile picture of the author DogScout
      Originally Posted by Glassjaw009 View Post

      Yes, placing adsense on an autoblog with solely 100% ripped content is against the adsense terms of service. Does this stop people from doing it? Absolutely not. If you can stay under the radar and not cause too much attention to yourself, you're *probably* going to be fine, but it's a risk you've got to weigh.
      'Ripped' content is NOT the same as syndicated content. Articles intact and auto posted are not 'ripped'.
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  • Profile picture of the author newcash101
    Mostly everyone here is correct. I run a autoblog but I also include my own fresh content and I run adsense ads. The key is ALWAYS add your own content.

    Hope that helps
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  • Profile picture of the author mine1718
    Of course, your content needs to be good, if your just posting up some rubbish, you know what will happen then
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  • Profile picture of the author derekwong28
    This is from Google concerning duplicate penalty

    Official Google Webmaster Central Blog: Demystifying the "duplicate content penalty"

    ...Let's put this to bed once and for all, folks: There's no such thing as a "duplicate content penalty." At least, not in the way most people mean when they say that.

    There are some penalties that are related to the idea of having the same content as another site--for example, if you're scraping content from other sites and republishing it, or if you republish content without adding any additional value. These tactics are clearly outlined (and discouraged) in our Webmaster Guidelines:

    I thought if anything, Google admits that it will penalize sites with duplicate content in some situatiions, and that certainly implies autoblogs. If your site contravenes Webmaster Guidelines, it will contravene Adsense guidelines as well. At the same of the day, if a Google worker decides to manually review your site, you will have to convince him/her that it is not a MFA site.

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  • Profile picture of the author gandhiprima
    no problem with autoblog.. create a quality autoblog..
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  • Profile picture of the author zerofill
    Well I have AdSense on all kinds of screwy autoblogs with no unique content on them and Google hasn't done anything to me in a couple years...

    Just make sure you have a privacy policy that follows their guidelines. You can normally find a generator online that stays current.

    Had a couple people tell me they got some flak for having certain CPA offers on their site like **** Berry...but frankly I don't really believe it unless I see the emails they sent...and I haven't so....

    As far as duplicate content being a myth...for the most part it is...you end up in the omitted results if your one of 100 other copies out there...unless you are the one with the better backlinks hehe.

    As far as Google penalizing your site for it...blah...thats a crock...only time they are going to penalize you for that is if you have the same content on the same site duplicated...

    I would really like to know why people keep thinking Google hates duplicate....err excuse me I mean "Republished" content so much...

    Boy if that were true...say goodbye to all the social bookmarking sites, RSS aggregators, etc...
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    • Profile picture of the author Tredi Andrasa
      Originally Posted by zerofill View Post

      I would really like to know why people keep thinking Google hates duplicate....err excuse me I mean "Republished" content so much...

      Boy if that were true...say goodbye to all the social bookmarking sites, RSS aggregators, etc...
      Well nice thought zerofill I just run this adsense on autoblogged for 2 months.. There's some myth that say use wordpress if you want to make an autoblog.. it's safer than blogger. That it's true?
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      • Profile picture of the author atwellpub
        Running 8+ autoblogs with adsense and no trouble.
        I have never heard of anyone getting in trouble using autoblogs and google adsense, and I have been following the autoblogging communitity for 6 months now.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kevin Marshall
        Originally Posted by artsurd View Post

        Well nice thought zerofill I just run this adsense on autoblogged for 2 months.. There's some myth that say use wordpress if you want to make an autoblog.. it's safer than blogger. That it's true?
        Yes it is safer to use wordpress than blogger if you are going to have autoblogs. The reason for this is that you control your wordpress domains. On blogger, if blogger doesn't like your content, they may flag it as a spam blog and the blog will be deleted.

        You can still use blogger for autoblogs, but you just have to know you are doing it at your own risk!
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    I tend to think that autoblogs are not adsense-safe because of the Webmaster Guidelines.
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  • Profile picture of the author ademartin
    Interesting thread. I found the advice of using some unique content surprising though. I guess the base autoblog gets promoted to an elite semi-autoblog status!

    Humor: I can't help but think that nowadays most content is scraped and spun anway. Therefore our autoblogs are simply regurgitating already scraped and spun content. Heck, if we are lucky we could even end up with a 4'th or 5'th generation scraped and spun article. [Powered by Scrape 'n' Spin] That's class!

    Botropolis is a good example of how to aggregate information from a niche through automation although I doubt it is returning sufficient income to quit the day job.

    I do have autoblogs but I don't see this as a viable means to earn a substantial income and building thousands of autoblogs would be, for me anyway, a desperate way of life!

    Always willing to be educated though ;-)

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