Key words in domain name?

16 years ago

Yes, and no.

Having your keyword is vital from an SEO aspect. However, many factors are taken into account and having your keyword in your domain name is just one of them (that's important).

In short, having your keyword in your domain name is advantageous.

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Aussie_Al 16 years ago

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paulgl

16 years ago

How did you find warriors forum?
Doing a search for warriors?

Whoever says a domain with keywords trumps everything
else is daft.

Keyword in a domain name is not vital. Tell that to
amazon, wikipedia, etc.

The two biggest forums for internet marketing:
warrior and digitalpoint. And the keywords are where?????

Get real people.

This myth is propagated by domain brokers.

Paul

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Shaun Lee

16 years ago

Originally Posted by paulgl

How did you find warriors forum?
Doing a search for warriors?

Whoever says a domain with keywords trumps everything
else is daft.

Keyword in a domain name is not vital. Tell that to
amazon, wikipedia, etc.

The two biggest forums for internet marketing:
warrior and digitalpoint. And the keywords are where?????

Get real people.

This myth is propagated by domain brokers.

Paul

Having your keyword in your domain name is advantageous. If all other things are equal, the domain with the keyword trumps the other.

It certainly doesn't mean you'll get the top position, though.

-Shaun

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ab420

16 years ago

Does it help? Absolutely. Is it a guaranteed magic top of google listing? Definitely not.

Here's a google search for "streetfighter motorcycle"

StreetfighterMotorcycle.com is #4....

I own that domain, and have done nothing with it, and have not promoted it or built links to it at all. And it's #4... so yes the domain name is very powerful, but it's not impossible to rank higher (I own 2 of the domains above that, because I DID develop them and build links).

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Aussie_Al 16 years ago

very coo!

One of the examples they gave was the site "creditcards" ranking above sites like Visa, American Express etc with less back links and PR
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paulgl

16 years ago

Originally Posted by ab420

Does it help? Absolutely. Is it a guaranteed magic top of google listing? Definitely not.

Here's a google search for "streetfighter motorcycle"

StreetfighterMotorcycle.com is #4....

I own that domain, and have done nothing with it, and have not promoted it or built links to it at all. And it's #4... so yes the domain name is very powerful, but it's not impossible to rank higher (I own 2 of the domains above that, because I DID develop them and build links).

You people are mixing stuff up. if it mattered, why isn't streetfighter motorcyle.com
#1?

For every example you give, I can give you 20.

Having your keyword in your domain name is advantageous. If all other things are equal, the domain with the keyword trumps the other.

It certainly doesn't mean you'll get the top position, though.

Then you are friggin contradicting yourself!!!!!

When real people, do real searches, for real phrases and keywords, it
does not matter. When people do bogus searches, as a gotcha, it
is rather meaningless.

I can take xyandz.com and rank #1 for xyandz. So what????

Paul

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Shaun Lee

16 years ago

Originally Posted by paulgl

Then you are friggin contradicting yourself!!!!!

When real people, do real searches, for real phrases and keywords, it
does not matter. When people do bogus searches, as a gotcha, it
is rather meaningless.

I can take xyandz.com and rank #1 for xyandz. So what????

Paul

Hi Paul,

I wasn't contradicting myself.

If all the Top 10 results' SEO value was exactly the same, i.e. same backlink value, same content value, same onpage SEO, and so on, then the result with the keyword in its domain name will trump the other results WITHOUT the keyword in their domain name.

In reality, this is not a possible case. No website can have the same exact amount of SEO done. It's either result A did it better or result B did it better.

In conclusion, having the keyword in the domain name is useful. However, the true major SEO power comes from the backlinks pointing to a particular website with a relevant anchor text.

Again, to reiterate my point, having the keyword in your domain name works well when you are in a less competitive situation; But the real SEO boost comes from the backlinks with a relevant anchor text.

-Shaun

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Russell Hall 16 years ago

Originally Posted by paulgl

You people are mixing stuff up. if it mattered, why isn't streetfighter motorcyle.com
#1?

Paul

So Google page 1 position #4 isn't proof enough for you?

I took a keyword phrase of "1962 Stratocaster" that I'd researched using Google Adwords tool and Market Samurai. I just wanted to test the Google Sniper theory,. so I went ahead and registered 1962stratocaster.com and whacked up a Wordpress blog with 1 post (original content containing the keyword phrase and other LSI words) and I tagged it with the KW phrase also and just left it.

11 days later,... Google page 1 position #4 for exact phrase search (22,400 pages), Google page 1 position #7 for broad phrase search (222,000 pages),.. and I was also starting to rank for other phrases such as "1962 strat" "62 strat" etc without having any phrase-in-title posts for them.
Since then I've added another 2 posts and a few images but apart from that the site is pretty bare,.. and now ranking Google Page 1 pos#7 for "1962 strat" (938,00 pages), Google page 1 pos #2 for "1962 vintage strat" (922,000),.. and the list goes on and on for Google page 1 results.

My initial 11 day result from having a simple WP blog with 1 post, ZERO backlinks, and no major SEO effort at all is about all the proof I need that having your KWphrase in the title of a .com (or .org, .net) definitely undisputedly freaking works. Although I'm a little pushed for time I've now started to add more content to that blog and will monetize it in due course (currently getting about 35 uniques a day,.. which in a focused niche like vintage guitars is very good).
I've since gone on to replicate this in other niches which I won't disclose here.
Now tell me that this would have been possible without having the keyword phrase in the .com domain

Oh yeah,... and now to explain the phenomenon of why my KWphrase.com didn't shoot to Google page 1 pos#1,... errmm... I think it might have to do with those other sites being older domains, having backlinks, and perhaps some PR rank! Having said that GP1 in the top 5 (above fold) will do me very nicely thanks very much!

Anyway,.. to all those that insist on continuing to doubt and deny,.. be my guest,... just leaves more niches wide open for me! :p

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jtooder

16 years ago

It matters but only a small part of the process. Yes and No is accurate, all things equal kw in domain ranks higher period.

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websitemrktg

16 years ago

If you promoted 2 sites exactly the same way the site with the keywords in the domain name would do better. I think that may have been what they meant.

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GNU27

16 years ago

Every single .com keyword rich domain I have is on page 1 of Google (poledancingpoles.com and cryosurgeryequipment.com are a couple of examples)

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bizousoft

16 years ago

worked very well for me actually, had a domain name .com with a blog on it, 0 content (I just copy pasted the google ads for the keyword), it started ranking in 2 days, I have 10 of those sites and 4 are still ranked in the first 10.

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SEOArbiter 16 years ago

Remember, it's ALL about the BACKLINKS!

Now, having said that, if you really want VERY good results, the formula is QUALITY CONTENT + BACKLINKS.

However, LINKS override everything. If a site has enough high quality backlinks, Google will rank them high.
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Charles Harper

16 years ago

I think though the the gentleman who talked about Amazon is hinting at the fact that this assumes that you do not have an 'authority' site. I believe that if your uniquie content and website are structured in silos (like an authority site would) that you can compete against those with the keywords in the domain and for that fact those with a considerable number of backlinks.

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Charles Harper

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Aussie_Al

Today i read Market Samurais latest newsletter

They are saying that regardless of the amount of backlinks and PR a site with the key words in the domain name will always rank higher than a site without them

Any truth to this?

Do you have a link to post?

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Aussie_Al 16 years ago

Originally Posted by Charles Harper

Do you have a link to post?

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joshrodrigue

16 years ago

There has also been a huge debate on if a domain name has hyphens in it, it won't do as well. I have hyphens in most of my domains and they do quite well seo wise =)

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Jaspry

16 years ago

I, too, would like to know about the Hyphens! I have a choice between:

ThisIsMyKeywordHub.com
or
This-Is-My-Keyword.com

My friend says the first one, because Google deducts SEO points for having many hyphens. I don't believe this. What do you think?

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Jaspry

16 years ago

In my experience, Keywords in Domain Name have ranked me position 1 or 2. Now they weren't "Weight Loss" or "Make Money" Keywords, but they were indeed keywords that compete with strong articles on authority sites.

I'm wondering if establishing SEO presence with a Keyword domain and then after traffic builds, redirecting it to your non-keyword branding domain name would work and still allow you to maintain SE traffic?

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carertet

16 years ago

Keyword rich / exact match domains are great.

Unless you are going with a nice catchy short pure brandable, I recommend that you use keyword rich domain names.

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MarketItAll

16 years ago

I mean there is some truth to this I'm sure but obviously not in all cases - I think it's a stretch of the truth. I've seen plenty of domains without the keywords ahead of domains with the keywords, so this is definitely not always true.

Of course the keywords in the domain definitely helps.

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