Does Google Count Backlinks That Are Duplicate Content?

I believe OP asked if these backlinks count as a backlink, in which case yes they are legitimate backlinks.

Like I said, it's just the value of the backlink that is different.

You don't necessarily need unique content too. Just think about all the world news that are aggregated all over the internet.

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GardenStateNJGuy

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Shaun Lee

I believe OP asked if these backlinks count as a backlink, in which case yes they are legitimate backlinks.

Like I said, it's just the value of the backlink that is different.

You don't necessarily need unique content too. Just think about all the world news that are aggregated all over the internet.

-Shaun

So the link value (or power) is diminshed, then, when duplicate content is used, correct?

Hypothetically, by how much? What would you estimate to be the difference in link power by spinning or using completely unique content? Would the difference be significant enough to warrant avoiding the use of duplicate content whenever possible?

Does anyone have any empirical data to support their position either way?

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Ernie Lo

16 years ago

2 opposite responses....helppppp

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16 years ago

Yes I agree those all will be counted as individual backlinks.

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kkchoon

16 years ago

Unique content backlinks will sure be counted each as 1.

However, same content might not be index if no extra boosting. Google seems to implement some kind of filter to disregards duplicate content backlinks.

Having said that, there are many situation where duplicated content links will be counted as valid individual link.

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cheyingtan

16 years ago

Originally Posted by kkchoon

Unique content backlinks will sure be counted each as 1.

However, same content might not be index if no extra boosting. Google seems to implement some kind of filter to disregards duplicate content backlinks.

Having said that, there are many situation where duplicated content links will be counted as valid individual link.

I agree with Choon. Some of my articles that having the same content are not index by the Google while some of them do.

Anyway, since you already created that press release, no harm submitting to all of the PR sites. Instead of guessing/arguing here, why not doing a mass submit?

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Shaun Lee

16 years ago

Originally Posted by GardenStateNJGuy

So the link value (or power) is diminshed, then, when duplicate content is used, correct?

Hypothetically, by how much? What would you estimate to be the difference in link power by spinning or using completely unique content? Would the difference be significant enough to warrant avoiding the use of duplicate content whenever possible?

Does anyone have any empirical data to support their position either way?

This is the start of a great thread!!

Peter

No, the value of a backlink does not diminish when duplicate content is used. The value diminish when all the backlinks come from one IP address, i.e. one website. They still pass on a considerable amount of value, though.

Here's an example. If Google.com gives you a backlink with an article on it's homepage and USA.gov gives you a backlink with the same exact article, both of them are going to be backlinks with extremely high value.

Duplicate content is a myth. You don't get penalized using duplicate content. The only bad thing about using duplicate content is that your webpage containing the content may not be ranked high in the search engines if Google determines that your website was not the original producer of the content.

Originally Posted by kkchoon

Unique content backlinks will sure be counted each as 1.

However, same content might not be index if no extra boosting. Google seems to implement some kind of filter to disregards duplicate content backlinks.

Having said that, there are many situation where duplicated content links will be counted as valid individual link.

Almost all backlinks can be indexed if found by Google. They will count as a backlink irregardless of the content. Like I said, if Google gave you a backlink using an article and USA.gov gave you a backlink with the exact same article, you will still get 2 extremely valuable backlinks if Google finds them.

Originally Posted by cheyingtan

I agree with Choon. Some of my articles that having the same content are not index by the Google while some of them do.

Anyway, since you already created that press release, no harm submitting to all of the PR sites. Instead of guessing/arguing here, why not doing a mass submit?

Your webpages are indexed, it's just that they are considered "supplemental". Google thinks that your webpage is not the original producer of that piece of content, so it puts that webpage containing that piece of content away.

You can still find your webpage, though. It's just highly unlikely that the common user will visit that webpage through their search engine.

Mass submit works. So yes, that's one of the methods to get backlinks to your website.

-Shaun

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heavyjay

16 years ago

That would really suck for Google to devalue content that you, yourself, produced.

Originally Posted by Shaun Lee

No, the value of a backlink does not diminish when duplicate content is used. The value diminish when all the backlinks come from one IP address, i.e. one website. They still pass on a considerable amount of value, though.

Here's an example. If Google.com gives you a backlink with an article on it's homepage and USA.gov gives you a backlink with the same exact article, both of them are going to be backlinks with extremely high value.

Duplicate content is a myth. You don't get penalized using duplicate content. The only bad thing about using duplicate content is that your webpage containing the content may not be ranked high in the search engines if Google determines that your website was not the original producer of the content.

Almost all backlinks can be indexed if found by Google. They will count as a backlink irregardless of the content. Like I said, if Google gave you a backlink using an article and USA.gov gave you a backlink with the exact same article, you will still get 2 extremely valuable backlinks if Google finds them.

Your webpages are indexed, it's just that they are considered "supplemental". Google thinks that your webpage is not the original producer of that piece of content, so it puts that webpage containing that piece of content away.

You can still find your webpage, though. It's just highly unlikely that the common user will visit that webpage through their search engine.

Mass submit works. So yes, that's one of the methods to get backlinks to your website.

-Shaun

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Shaun Lee 16 years ago

Originally Posted by heavyjay

That would really suck for Google to devalue content that you, yourself, produced.

Yes that's true.

Google can only make it's best guess on which webpage is the original producer. Sometimes, Google does get it wrong and the original producer never gets the credit. However, that rarely happens because Google is smart.

-Shaun
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shaktimaan

16 years ago

You may not face much problem regarding indexing as press releases are indexed in minutes. In short google does not like duplicate content. Your site will not get much link juice from duplicate content.

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bgmacaw

16 years ago

Originally Posted by shaktimaan

In short google does not like duplicate content. Your site will not get much link juice from duplicate content.

Nonsense.

Go search on press releases and discover the truth rather than repeating Cargo Cult SEO.

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heavyjay

16 years ago

Originally Posted by bgmacaw

Nonsense.

Go search on press releases and discover the truth rather than repeating Cargo Cult SEO.

I did a search on press releases and got 20 pages of results. I read through a bunch of them but didn't find anything relevant to this discussion. I'm really interested in the subject. Would you happen to remember the username of anyone who has made some good posts about it so I can search that way?

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paulgl 16 years ago

Do you people even read any responses before answering
with, um, nonsense??

Articles are duplicate content. People all over the internet
publish an EZA article. Okay, let's say 100. Are those 100
backlinks? YES!!!! ( Caveat: only if each one is indexed by google)

As far as Bgmacaw's rant, it was, kind of tongue-in-cheek. Do
a search for a piece of a press release:

""It feels great to have the iPad launched"

My, just look at the results! I guess Steve Jobs and the publishers
just did not get the memo on duplicate content. Cuz all those websites
are now headed for a dreadful fall!

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shaktimaan

16 years ago

Originally Posted by heavyjay

I did a search on press releases and got 20 pages of results. I read through a bunch of them but didn't find anything relevant to this discussion. I'm really interested in the subject. Would you happen to remember the username of anyone who has made some good posts about it so I can search that way?

this subject is already discussed in detail here, http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...marketers.html

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heavyjay 16 years ago

Originally Posted by shaktimaan

this subject is already discussed in detail here, http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...marketers.html

Thanks, shaktimaan. I see the subject always raises a lively discussion.
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KateD

16 years ago

Hi...

They will count as 10 individual backlinks. No problem there. I use duplciate content all the time, and although they may not rank very high, they are still provding backlinks to my niche blogs.

So you are fine.

Man, kkchoon,

I normally like your responses, but this is some major double-speak:

However, same content might not be index if no extra boosting. Google seems to implement some kind of filter to disregards duplicate content backlinks.

Having said that, there are many situation where duplicated content links will be counted as valid individual link.

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Ernie Lo

16 years ago

Thanks Shaun Lee very useful info if you're correct.

I better start submitting my EZA articles to GoArticles now

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halfpoint 16 years ago

Originally Posted by Ernie Lonardo

Thanks Shaun Lee very useful info if you're correct.

I better start submitting my EZA articles to GoArticles now

Don't stop there. Submit them everywhere!
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- shaktimaan 16 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Pat Jackson
  
  Don't stop there. Submit them everywhere!
  
  waste of time. google bot will not index them.
  
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  bgmacaw 16 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by shaktimaan
  
  waste of time. google bot will not index them.
  
  Once again, nonsense.
  
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  halfpoint 16 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by shaktimaan
  
  waste of time. google bot will not index them.
  
  That is not even remotely true.
  
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heavyjay

16 years ago

Originally Posted by unlimitedsubmissions

As long as they're indexed, they're counted.

Speaking of indexing, I have links I created in Feb and Mar that don't show up in the Yahoo site search even though I pinged them. Is this common?

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Shaun Lee 16 years ago

Originally Posted by heavyjay

Speaking of indexing, I have links I created in Feb and Mar that don't show up in the Yahoo site search even though I pinged them. Is this common?

Yes, it's not uncommon that you don't see the full list of backlinks of any given webpage.

All services do not show you the full list of backlinks.

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BinkBonk

16 years ago

Originally Posted by heavyjay

Speaking of indexing, I have links I created in Feb and Mar that don't show up in the Yahoo site search even though I pinged them. Is this common?

It is even worse if you check with Google. They show hardly anything for one site I worked on even though it continuously ranked in the top 1-3 for some very competitive keywords.

I do try to be sure my links are getting indexed, but am not anal about it. Just keep on plugging away with those backlinks...

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halfpoint

16 years ago

Originally Posted by BinkBonk

It is even worse if you check with Google. They show hardly anything for one site I worked on even though it continuously ranked in the top 1-3 for some very competitive keywords.

I do try to be sure my links are getting indexed, but am not anal about it. Just keep on plugging away with those backlinks...

I honestly don't remember the last time I looked at any of my sites backlinks in Site Explorer or any other backlink checking tool.

I do check if they're indexed regularly but I don't see the point in seeing which ones show up in Site Explorer and which ones don't.

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bretclive 16 years ago

Yes, each link will be counted individually.
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heavyjay

16 years ago

Thanks, Shaun.

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BinkBonk

16 years ago

I have no issues with duplicate content, and would say it matters even less with press releases. You would definitely have 10 backlinks that are getting you all the benefit you can get from them. The nature of a press release is that you expect it to be syndicated across the internet. Google will if anything say, "Hey this is getting a lot of play!" and your site will benefit.

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Riposte

16 years ago

Links placed within duplicate content will be devalued, but they will not negatively affect your site.

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novintabligh

16 years ago

In my opinion, if they are indexed then each would have its own backlinks. However, the problem with duplicate content is that all of them will not be indexed and therefore their links are not counted.

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Ernie Lo

16 years ago

LOL Im surprised with the amount of replies. I was kind of ashamed to post this thread I as I thought it was pretty noobish question and had a simple yes or no answer

haha..

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