SEO Forum - 40 Day Challenge - Top 5 in Google Within 40 Days!

by JosephA 1177 replies
Hi, my name is Joseph Archibald (some of you may know me for my article writing on the Warrior Forum) and I welcome you to this 40 day Challenge - "top 5 in Google within 40 days!".

Let me just clarify this a bit please. Forgive me here - its rather a long definition and explanation as to what I intend to do, but its fully necessary just to make it as crystal clear as I can do so. For anyone remotely interested in SEO it should be interesting reading nevertheless.

One of the recent posts on the WF in this part of the forum was along the lines of "how to define a good to great keyword?".

Excellent question! But one that can only be answered truly by the person who wishes to make the definition. Meaning one of the following:

* would you wish to attain a high ranking for a keyword phrase that is going to bring you buyers regardless there are perhaps only around 2 thousand searches per month in Google stats? (Very possibly a long-tail keyword).

* or are you looking to rank a keyword phrase that has 50,000 + searches a month and not too concerned about it being a buyer-related keyword? After all, with a large search volume, no matter your chosen keyword you should get at the very least a few sales, right (or wrong)?

* or perhaps the definition for you relates much more about how much competition there is in the likes of Google. If I stipulate something along the lines of 20 million competition for the same keyword phrase you wish to rank for, does that mean its a good or great keyword if you can indeed rank highly for it?


I know there are other ways to define a good or great keyword - some based more upon your own personal reasoning and requirements, perhaps. A good or great keyword is in the eye of the beholder - yes, similar to beauty...

For me then, a good or great keyword (or beautiful keyword, if you like) for this particular exercise would have to encompass a number of those points above, if not all 3 together. Namely:

1. must have potential buyers (not necessarily long tail however)

2. must have over 50 thousand searches a month as per Google stats in the Google External keyword tool - this is the EXACT MATCH and not BROAD

3. well okay, the competition as per the Google stats is not what I would focus on at all. I don't care if there are 5,000 comp or 50 million comp. There are other factors more important at play than this sort of competition. But for the sake of many, I shall indeed mention the competition of my chosen keyword


Okay, onwards. My intention is to detail the process of ranking my chosen keyword/keyword phrase - call it what you will, in Google, in the top 5 within a 40 day time frame from very start (once I have chosen my keyword and announced this on this thread) to very end. I shall only purchase the chosen keyword AFTER this challenge begins, and would expect it to be Google indexed some 5 days or so after I make the purchase.

40 days may be too short a time for a top 5 - this has yet to be seen. There can be no guarantee because ultimately its up to Google, and there are a number of other factors that I am obviously unable to control. I will however, do my best!

Why am I doing this? Why do I want to expose my deep SEO secrets to you, a stranger? And why would I wish to risk my reputation on the Warrior Forum (and beyond). Hmmmm.... good question really - its rather nerve racking!

There are a number of reasons, but one is to help to educate and offer support for many folks who are really struggling with choosing keywords and ranking webpages in the likes of Google. I do totally and absolutely know how incredibly frustrating and seemingly unattainable this whole process seems, particularly when new at the "game" of SEO. I spent a load of time and a load of money (most of which was a waste) on trying out new techniques in an effort to make money online.

Fairly early on however, I realized that perhaps the best way was to learn SEO. And thus I embarked upon learning the ropes and putting into practice various techniques until I had honed my skills enough as to be at least relatively successful.

And no, I shall not reel off my successes and boost my flagging ego - how much money I make, how many sites I have ranking in the top 5 or 10 of Google and how many at number 1... Its not relevant to the Challenge.

Let this Challenge speak for itself as to whether I know and understand the world of search engine optimization or not (SEO Google fashion, that is). If you gain something from it that you can add this to your own ability for ranking a decent keyword, then you can argue that the Challenge has indeed justified itself, at least for you.

After all, ranking sites/keywords/keyword phrases on a regular basis only comes with practice and with practice comes improvement. If you can learn from others who have made a ton of mistakes beforehand (that's me!) then you are a big step forward indeed! Less mistakes for you to make, which means success should come sooner rather than later.

Finally, I shall relay to you in my posts on this thread every aspect to my campaign for the chosen keyword. That's not at all to say that I do this for all my campaigns. It depends upon the competition, the target market and how motivated I am haha!

And for sure, I am not claiming I am some form of genius (ah, if only!). I merely wish to show one way - one set of techniques in reaching a potential goal as far as SEO is concerned.

There are many other ways to go about reaching the same goal - what I shall show to you here is just a single method that can be learned by anyone with half a notion. You are then free to utilize this method or to build on it for perhaps even more successes of your own.

The method I am going to outline here is far and away from being perfect, or indeed its not at all one of the best. Its just one way to achieve high rankings, and to achieve high rankings very regularly - if you have the motivation to do so.

If you've read this far, then many thanks for that - you may be one of few! Lol!

Oh, and further information can be found at my blog here
The Thrill of Good Quality SEO makes my Life a Better Place!

Its fairly new hence there is not a vast amount of content. Interesting reading nevertheless.

I shall make a diary of progress and my reasons why I do things on the blog too.

Now sit back and enjoy the ride!


To our success!

Kind regards
Joseph Archibald



As a postscript, and a la Terry Kyle style, if you feel that this thread is of value then do please feel free to provide a vote of thanks by clicking the Thanks button which is just below and on the right side, thank you!
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  • Hi Joseph, I'll look forward to it.
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    • Profile picture of the author terenceyang
      Hi Joseph,

      After reading your post from the start to the very end, I am sure that I will follow you from the start of your project here to the very end too...

      All the best of luck and JUICE...
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    • Profile picture of the author jacked
      great thread, still have to finish reading but I have learned a lot from this when I read through most of it a month ago and so far have had great success, one of my sites which I built 3 weeks ago is already on the first page for a competitive adsense keyword with over 48k searches per month
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      • Profile picture of the author Martin N Smith
        Hey Joseph,

        Thanks for your response again yesterday. Like Matt above, I've read most of the thread now but will be purchasing the ebook when I'm back at the office next Tuesday as a way of saying THANK YOU for providing such awesome content.

        I think I'm pretty much there now although I'd appreciate you firming up on the 'volume' of articles we're talking about here:

        1. For the anchor directories / web 2.0 sites etc - 1 unique article per site. This I do know.

        2. Next, for UAW, can you tell me exactly how many articles you submit to these? You've mentioned 500. Is this about right?

        3. Finally, for BB, how many c 100 - 120 word snippets are we talking about here?

        Thanks again
        Martin
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        • Profile picture of the author JosephA
          Hi Jacked,
          many thanks for the feedback! Its great you are having real success by using this system and I hope you go on to make a ton of cash via AdSense!

          Kind regards

          Joseph
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    Thanks for your support guys! Much appreciated (and much needed too!)
    Best wishes...
    J
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  • Profile picture of the author wnatc1
    Looks like a good thing to follow. Look fwd to it
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    • Profile picture of the author JosephA
      I'm using Scroogle Scraper here to work out who is who on my potential top 5 rankings. In the case you don't know about Scroogle Scraper - its a software (website) that allows you to search for Google rankings and its unbiased. Thus, it will not necessarily show up your own site as being number one, simply because its unbiased towards you, whereas Google is not. Google will take a bias towards your own search requirements.

      Also, for purposes of this challenge, Scroogle Scraper is okay - albeit it does provide different results in different countries. Over-all though, its probably fairer to assess for a top ranking using the Scroogle rather than a general Google search query.

      I could fire up another software I have (paid for) - SEO Elite, and do further assessments, but this is not entirely necessary I think. I don't want folks to go buying all forms of software for keyword searches and all sorts, when to be honest much of the best research can be done totally and absolutely free.

      Take the Google External Keyword Tool as a perfect example of free at its best!!

      I think I've finally got my keyword.

      More on that shortly...

      J
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      • Profile picture of the author JosephA
        When I'm checking out my comp on Google I'll go into Scroogle Scraper, as mentioned, and then one by one I will check through each website of the top 10 on Goog.

        Forget the idea about all this who's ranking for your chosen keywords in "" (is that parenthethis?) and who is not. I spent what feels like most of my life using this technique and generally by doing so managed to rank for nothing worthy of ranking for.

        So many folks get all worked up about the fact that when they check Google and see there is 25 million other sites ranking for the same keyword that they want - well, that means it can't possibly be done. Waaaa.... not true!!

        What I highly encourage you to do, if you are not already doing so is to check for your potential keyword who is top 10 to top 20 in Google. These are your true competition, make no mistake!

        Its these guys and gals who KNOW how to rank their sites by using both on-page and off-page techniques. Either they know or they got oodles of cash to splash on some SEO company.

        I'll talk more about this very soon...

        Regards
        J
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        • Profile picture of the author rhodie
          Following with interest.
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      • Profile picture of the author terenceyang
        Joseph,

        Thank you for letting us into your mind and look over your shoulder while you do your stuff.

        Can you help me in this...

        How do you narrow down to the keyword that you think you may have found? Do you start off with any random seed keyword or do you find out a rising trend or whatever did you do before you move on to narrow it down?

        Pardon me if I am not quick to catch any hint(s) that you may have mentioned.

        Thank you.


        Originally Posted by JosephA View Post

        Take the Google External Keyword Tool as a perfect example of free at its best!!

        I think I've finally got my keyword.

        More on that shortly...

        J
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        • Profile picture of the author JosephA
          Hi Terence,
          thanks for following the thread here!

          With regards your question...
          "How do you narrow down to the keyword that you think you may have found? Do you start off with any random seed keyword or do you find out a rising trend or whatever did you do before you move on to narrow it down?"

          Do you mean how do I start out on my niche and then narrow down to a particular keyword, or are you referring to when I have my niche area defined and now wish to search out a hot keyword to target?

          Cheers!

          Joseph
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          • Profile picture of the author JosephA
            Okay now, I've chosen my keyword and snapped up a relevant domain name! Let's take a quick look at what I have:


            http://twilightposterz.com




            This domain is targeting the keywords "Twilight Poster", in case you did not realize.



            Of course, www.twilightposter.com is not going to be available! Hence I inserted the "z" to make it sound like Twilight Posters. Its of little consequence to my requirements. I should still be able to rank nicely for this regardless of the "z" sticking on the end a bit like a sore thumb sticks out!


            Sounds perhaps a little bland (not perhaps the right word), but Twilight being such a SIZZLING HOT topic there are indeed sales to be made here!


            I was looking at "New Moon Poster" which according to the Google Keyword Tool has over 165,000 EXACT global searches. Now we are clear as to what Global and Local searches mean, right?


            Global is as it says - based on Google search figures from around the world over the period of the preceding year, broken down to a monthly average.


            Local stats are for the previous month alone (no average over the year) for the Google server that you have chosen to use. Ya, you can use this feature on the free Google Keyword tool, which is very neat! There's a tab at the top where you can change to your desired country to get Google traffic stats for that country alone.

            "Twilight Poster" has some 60.5k exact Google searches globally - as an average per month. Its a little risky to base my "presumptions" on this being a really hot keyword on this figure. Let me explain why.


            Let's say I want to tie this product in with Amazon.com okay?
            Amzon.com are based in and around North America, right? If I'm targeting "global" then this may include a load of ladies and gents for the likes of Russia. And I don't think that many Russians who live in Russia would be buying from Amazon.com - do you?



            Sure has happened to me before. Where I load up my Google Analytics to see some nice figures for a couple of my sites - high level of unique hits. I go a bit deeper cos I see a lack of sales of my affiliate products and hey, its mostly Russian (from Russia) who are hitting up on my sites. Nothing against Russians of course (my ex was one of 'em). But they are not the buying crowd that I'm looking for!


            So keep this in mind when you are assessing stats for your own keywords!




            Why not just use AdSense? If you have a look see, the potential income for "Twilight Poster" is just below the US dollar mark - 93 cents. Which literally means that I potentially would earn around 25 cents a click. Hmmm, okay I suppose, but perhaps I can do a bit better hooking up with the likes of Amazon.com or eBay. I can always change these about later on and see what happens.

            If one monetizing platform performs not so well, then its good to keep other possibilities in mind. So, for product-related stuff this becomes relatively easy. Just take AdSense off (if its AdSense you have been trying out) and hook into a product from the likes of Amazon or eBay etc.


            Say I initially found a nice product-related keyword that was going to pay me around the dollar mark per click. Yes, I go for that! I check it in SpyFu (or where-ever) to ensure that there are advertisers for the exact keyword. That's the basic SpyFu, so its free!


            Lo-and-behold, there are 17 advertisers - great!


            But what if, for some very odd reason, my sparkly site is nicely ranked, getting some good amount of uniques now that its gotten into top 10 in Google, but its not pulling many clicks. How come?


            Sure thing, would not take too many clicks to make some really good profits at around 1 buck a click, but you see my point, I'm sure. I mean, let's imagine we get $1 per click, we are ranked at say... 9th in Google, we are getting some 150 uniques a day and our site is set up so that we can pull a click through average of 12% per day (pulling a higher click % is indeed very possible!).


            This would work out at... 18 bucks a day for one single highly optimized web page! Nice work! Getting away from the point though...


            Due to the fact that my site is product-related its now a simple matter for me to go check Amazon.com or .co.uk or something and see if I can find highly-related products that I can affiliate for. Well, yes, of course there are!


            Get me here? You are covered for different angles should one thing not work out for you at the start.


            You are hardly going to start up selling your own physical product here but you can indeed turn to the likes of Amazon, eBay, Commission Junction etc. to get some great products that you can aff for, should your AdSense fall flat!


            *


            I'll make another post to carry on with this discussion or else it may turn out to be a tome like the last post I made




            (If you did miss my point here (I do waffle on a bit, sorry) the main thing I'm saying is - if you are not so sure about a niche and whether you'll get buyers/AdSense clickers, its no bad thing to cover more than one base - AdSense, eBay, Amazon etc. Thus, should one option fail then you can try out one of the others. You can think about that when next going for a different niche). You don't have to change all your site articles etc. if you want to change from one monetization base to the other, if you thought this through at the start.
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            • Profile picture of the author JosephA
              Hi Promojack, thanks for stopping by!

              I hope my techniques are as effective as they sound too

              The proof is in the pudding, so to speak.

              However, I do think that many folks who know SEO to some extent are possibly sitting up and taking some notice here. Cos what I'm divulging is what I use day to day. And what I'm divulging is based not only on my own "fiddling" around but upon many other TOP SEO'ers and what they do too, day in day out.

              What I've done is to take a bit of many different techniques, experimented with them myself and then do what works for me.

              Thus these techniques are actually almost totally tried and tested and found to be very workable and very successful too.

              I'm not one for re-inventing the wheel when the wheel works really well. All I do is to tweak the wheel to make it work that much better for me!

              Good luck!
              J
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          • Profile picture of the author terenceyang
            Originally Posted by JosephA View Post

            Hi Terence,
            thanks for following the thread here!

            With regards your question...
            "How do you narrow down to the keyword that you think you may have found? Do you start off with any random seed keyword or do you find out a rising trend or whatever did you do before you move on to narrow it down?"

            Do you mean how do I start out on my niche and then narrow down to a particular keyword, or are you referring to when I have my niche area defined and now wish to search out a hot keyword to target?

            Cheers!

            Joseph

            Hi Joseph,

            I am referring how you would pick your niche to start with... Especially for this challenge here.
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            • Profile picture of the author JosephA
              Hi Terence, with respect to this particular challenge it was a case of pick something out of the blue, really. I did not want to go with AdSense cos I would not be able to provide the domain name on the Warrior Forum if I did so.

              So it had to be something that I could either have no product at all - no monetization, or something that even if it was to be viewed a thousand times via the forum and clicked through with no sales to speak of, there would be no harm done. No repercussions to my account (if it were AdSense I'd be banned in no time).

              At the same time, I wanted to pick a niche that everyone is aware of - so even if not Twilight fans, at least they know of Twilight. I'm no Twilight fan myself, but I do enjoy the movies and my girlfriend daughters love Twilight, so I'm at least aware of it to say the least.

              Further, I wanted to "hit" my initial criteria for the Challenge. In this case I did not entirely do so, but the last one - 20 million competing in Google is neither here nor there to be honest. As mentioned, there are other ways to determine the true level of competition.

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              In general and not related to the Challenge, I would pick a niche depending on whether I'm following the technique I just talked about - the products-based stuff. That narrows things down a bit. And then all I do is to get my notepad that I've written down about 200 ideas in over the past couple weeks and check out what's what with both the Google Keyword Tool (great piece of kit that is!) and with Micro Niche Finder software (James Jones product).

              Its good to just write down stuff as you walk around the shops. As you see TV ads - loads of stuff on TV in general to generate great niche ideas from. Or just talking to folks - someone says something about something and my brain is suddenly ticking over about a potential hot niche. Weird perhaps

              I think its just being always open to ideas and potential markets. Heck, even sometimes when I wake up early in the morning I have an idea about a new niche that I will write down or go straight online and check it out there and then.

              Niches are almost everywhere around us, its just a case of "seeing" things as potentially your next hot niche! And it need not at all be product related. There are so many other things that are worth checking out for their potential.

              Hope that helps Terence!

              Best wishes to you...
              Joseph
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  • Profile picture of the author PolarBearAK
    Joseph,

    This is going to be a very interesting thread and I plan to follow it.

    Thanks for the information, and best wishes in reaching your goal.
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  • Profile picture of the author JosephA
    Thanks Wnatc, Rhodie and Polar Bear - really appreciate your support on this! Its gonna be a fun ride for all (I hope)!

    Just a note to anyone who is following the thread but not made any comment as yet. Please do so - I welcome all comments (within reason) - and I really do appreciate just a simple comment like those who have very kindly just done so. I really do!

    Even if you have not posted before on this forum I want to hear from you. This thread is for anyone that feels it will be of benefit be that you are making a whole heap of money on the internet and your marketing efforts or that you have still to make a single buck!

    I don't care - this is for you regardless where you are at with regards to your SEO!

    Best wishes to everyone, and thanks again for reading along!

    J
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    • Profile picture of the author JosephA
      So, what am I looking for when assessing my comp in Google?

      Yup, top 10 to top 20 ranking in Google for my desired keyword.

      I will then go through each of them - check them out - my potential competition in Google that is. Assess their website.

      To be honest, I'm not going to be winning any ranking prizes for my site design skills (please read my recent post (30 April on my website

      I Made a Mess of Working on an HTML – Based Site

      Embarrassing!)

      Simple and fast is what turns me on (I'm discussing websites here). So when I'm checking some of these sites now (my potential top competition in Google) - well, they are indeed very arty and nice to look at. Some are a bit clunky though - difficult to navigate around. This puts me off. I like nice simple interfaces.

      Take Go Daddy for example. Nice and glossy for sure, but geeee - so difficult to navigate. Far too many offers all over the place. I don't use Go Daddy at all now - in part due to this clunky set up/interface, and in part cos they've caused me all sorts of problems when trying to register a simple domain name. Their security measures seem to me to be way over the top!

      I use Dynadot for ALL my new site registrations. Its fairly simple and gloss-free. Its also a bit cheaper than Go Daddy, unless you want .info domains, which are incredibly cheap on Go Daddy - last time I looked anyhow.

      After a while, you get what is called "bulk-buy" discounts on Dynadot. Thus, I can get a .com for a low price of $7.50 (almost 11 bucks on Go Daddy!) or a .net for only $5.99. Fantastic! I think .org is about $8 or so.

      Hmmm... I got sidetracked...



      I look firstly for Google PR when assessing my potential competition. Say my competition in the top 10 all have PR5s or so, well then, I have a job on my hands! If the keyword is really worth going for (its going to offer really good pay-back in one form or another) then this will not necessarily put me off.

      What else? How many pages are Goog indexed? Many of the big boys and girls who are ranking at the top for the best keywords (best here I mean by most searched for) have massive websites with often in excess of half a million pages indexed. Don't let that put you off in entirety. But keep it in mind that if you do come across smaller sites your job may be made rather easier to outrank them.

      What next? Well of course - backlinks!! Sure thing, you will NEVER find out how many backlinks your comp really have, but you can get a very rough idea by doing a Yahoo search for the site in question (see * below) and then you should at least double that figure and more. Yahoo shows up more backlinks to a site than do Google (by a long way!).

      There is a feature in Google Webmaster account where you can find the number of links to a site, which I understand is possibly a more accurate assessment. Don't know though, I stick with the Yahoo determination of backlinks to a site.

      There is no software product that I know about that will be able to show all the backlinks to any website. I use SEO Elite on occasion - a product by Brad Callen and his brother Matt, but even this fairly expensive software will not tell me all I need to know.

      Now if you were really doing your homework you would also check out these backlinks. Where are they coming from? What is the PR of the sites that they are coming from? Are they very much related sites to the one we are researching - the one we are just about to build?

      Unfortunately you can't see the hyperlinked text in the backlink (maybe you could if you want to load up each individual website but that would take days to do).

      Next up - domain age. The older the domain the more established it is, and this gives it "weight" and makes it more difficult (although not impossible!) to outrank.

      And finally, the Alexa ranking. Obviously if you are competing against a site that is top thousand ranking in Alexa, then again, you have a job on your hands. Stand up all those who work a lot on product-related domains. You all know precisely what I mean here, right? Your Amazons, your eBays, your NextTags, and your YouTubes and EzineArticles etc.

      Quite frankly these sites are a pain in the behind if you want to rank high for product-related stuff, for example, toys, work tools, jewelry and so forth. But, one thing you got in your favor against such mighty sites as these is...

      Most of 'em don't have time to get backlinks to their specific product webpage. Thus the page will not be ranking on backlinks but on the other factors just mentioned. Well okay then, we all know that backlinks are mighty powerful in the eyes of the major search engines, right? Dang sure they are too! So we can't compete with these mighty sites on most of the above factors can we? But, we most certainly can when it comes to high quality backlinks to our sites/web pages, which is PRECISELY WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO! Wow, we're on a roll now!

      YOu see, ranking in the search engines is really about being just that bit more savvy than your competition - and that includes those massively powerful guys and girls up there that we all know so well. THEY CAN AND WILL BE BEATEN BY US LITTLE (VERY SMART) FOLKS!!


      Mmmmm... there is something else here too that can go in our favor/favour - our choice in domain name! Now okay, I don't work much with Bing.com nor with Yahoo! Search, so I don't really know for sure if they really rate a relevant domain name like Google does. I suspect they actually do though - and I say this because I have obviously done some checking with regards my own sites in the past, and often times I've been ranking rather nicely in Yahoo and in Bing too. More on this to come.

      Okay, so what do I mean by our choice in domain name? Most IM'ers (internet marketers) know that by plucking out a domain name with an exact match to our keywords/keyword phrase we wish to rank for, we will certainly be given some advantage, some kudos in and by Google.

      I have to say that its not so unusual to see some site with a PR0 that is less than a year old that is ranking well against some other sites that have high PR and are years and years old. Furthermore, sometimes these PR0 sites have little to no backlinks to be seen.

      So what the heck is going on here?

      The site owner nabbed the domain name that was up for grabs that was a 100% match to their desired keywords. For example... desired keywords "toys for Christmas 2010". Our domain name would be www.toysforchristmas2010.com (or .org or .net). Hmmm, I ain't checked to see if that domain is available... If not, what about Christmas 2011 and so on...?? If we were to get those domain names some years in advance imagine the power they would have in Google's eyes come Christmas time of that particular year. There you have a hot tip for free!

      Okay, I will not labor on about this as most of us get it anyhow. Its not so easy to get decent domain names now anyhow, if this is your game. I have another method however, that it seems to me to provide equally good results, and ultimately "can" lead to top Goog rankings.

      No secret but its often overlooked by folks who are glued to the idea of getting a precise match no matter what!


      There is one more thing I did not mention - cache. If the site has been cached recently it generally means that its been updated, which is no bad thing. After all, we are told that one of the advantages of a blog (no matter its a WordPress blog or what) is that its set up to be updated fairly regularly, thus it will be cached in Google etc fairly often.

      To be honest, I don't necessarily think this makes a large difference because it seems to me that many of the top-ranking sites are not updated often at all. By all means come back to me if you have a different opinion on this, thanks.

      More soon...

      J


      * If you use Firefox for your searches then you should if not already done so, download the SEO Quake tool. Free, of course! Once you have this installed, for every web search you make you will see (provided you turn the tool on for use) all the stats for Google PR's, the number of indexed pages in Google, Yahoo and Bing.com, age of domain etc. etc. Totally
      indispensable
      if you want to do regular SEO work for your own websites, it really is!
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      • Profile picture of the author halwitsweb
        This was very informative post.
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        • Profile picture of the author JosephA
          Thanks for your feedback Halwitsweb!

          Joseph
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          • Profile picture of the author Young Samurai
            This entire thread has been fascinating.

            One issue that I'm uncertain about is your choice of keyword.

            I'd never have selected such a competitive kw.

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      • Profile picture of the author joanagoldman
        Originally Posted by JosephA View Post

        * If you use Firefox for your searches then you should if not already done so, download the SEO Quake tool. Free, of course! Once you have this installed, for every web search you make you will see (provided you turn the tool on for use) all the stats for Google PR's, the number of indexed pages in Google, Yahoo and Bing.com, age of domain etc. etc. Totally
        indispensable if you want to do regular SEO work for your own websites, it really is!
        Hi Joseph,

        If you do not have firefox, what other program can you use in order to check the backlinks?
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        • Profile picture of the author JosephA
          Hi Joana, I don't use Firefox on my main laptop now because of some annoying software conflict. I now use Google Chrome instead, which is very fast. You can use the SEOQuake addon for Chrome, much as you would for Firefox.


          Do remember that Yahoo Search Explorer is now defunct, but having said that, its almost as accurate as any other backlink counter that's around at this time, so I still use YSE, although I take the stats with a huge pinch of salt. Don't go basing your backlink count analyses on any counter tool because you only see the tip of the iceberg by doing so.


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    • Profile picture of the author rehema
      Joseph thank you this is really marvelous I did not really believe that you will make it to this fare that you have reached. Please keep on with the good were on you shoulders peeping on your screen thanking for welcoming are
      Re: 40 Day Challenge - Top 5 in Google Within 40 Days! Okay then, here is what I have managed to do so far today. Still a few hours left for more, of course!

      I completed my spinning of an article I wrote late last night to provide me with some 250 different versions of this article with around a 50% uniqueness over-all. Having used a few of those articles today for submissions etc. (including to Ezinearticles.com who happily accepted the article), I find that they are not absolutely perfect with regards syntax. This is to be expected though, particularly when you are trying to write/compose articles when the old brain is a bit tired.

      Nevertheless, I do go through each article before submission to any article directory or to my own site (or submission to any where for that matter) and ensure the article is at the very least good quality. Its a stipulation that I ensure I fulfill these days, at least for the vast majority of my submissions. These are not Pulitzer-prize winners. They are not even on par with my writing work on the WF for clients - those were generally very high quality stuff - go read the feedback on my other thread if you wish to see for yourself. You know my username on here so just search for it.

      Enough banging my own drum. Do forgive me!


      I then went on to submit to the 6 Do-Follow article directories mentioned in a previous post. Rather than submitting the same article to each directory I submit my spun articles instead, thus reducing any potential for a footprint, particularly thinking about Google here! I don't just change the title and the bio box. I actually change every thing and also vary the hyper-text too in the bios.

      By the way, if you are interested, the spinning software I use is Jon Ledger's The Best Spinner. Its simply superb! Before using this piece of software I tried a number of other spinners but I simply disliked them rather intensely. Now its a different matter.

      Here is my own personal review of The Best Spinner

      The Best Spinner Review

      It saves so much time that in my opinion if you are serious about SEO'ing your sites this is a MUST HAVE! Providing you don't already use spinning software that is.


      I then took a couple of paragraphs from my previously spun article and did a further spin on those to provide me with 120 word snippets. What do I use the snippets for?

      I can use the snippets to then insert a link back to my web page of choice. A single hyper-text link per 100+ word snippet. The hyper-text can be anything of choice, albeit no vulgarity or sex stuff or gambling related.

      I find creating snippets of text like this a breeze! Even when your motivation is flagging (my own certainly does at times!), writing out some snippets with the spinner is simple. Thus it does not take much motivation to make progress.

      I love using snippets like this for getting a link back to my site, its simply so simple, it simply is!

      But, you are asking, what do I do with the snippets of text?

      I use a service called Blog Blueprint to upload the text snippets and then these are drip-fed at the rate of 20 per day to blogs and other websites, thus I am able to attain rather a lot of very nice little text links without too much work.

      Want to learn more about Blog Blueprint?

      Yup, you guessed it, I did a review of that one too on my site which you can find here...
      Blog BluePrint Review


      I have reviewed most of the tools I use very, very regularly for my SEO work and posted those to my website at...

      The Thrill of Good Quality SEO makes my Life a Better Place!

      I think this is a fair way for people such as yourself to see for yourself what actually really does work, and work well, with regards to attaining backlinks or for other jobs that we SEO'ers have to do regularly.

      And please, before anyone takes a swipe at me for hard-sell. This is merely telling people who come to read this thread about great bits and pieces of software. Its informing my fellow SEO'ers, as I would do a good friend really!


      More to come....

      Regards
      J
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    • Profile picture of the author dcjones21
      Great post - Pat Flynn at SmartPassiveIncome.com referred me to this post
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      • Profile picture of the author JosephA
        Hi DC, thanks for the feedback!

        I just heard from Pat a couple of hours ago. In his next blog post he'll be sharing the actual tools he used to get his first place ranking in Goog - within, what was it - about 10 weeks I think.

        If you've read thru the posts on here then you'll already know what he used to achieve his ranking.

        Best wishes DC!

        Regards
        Joseph
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      Great info, thanks very much.

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      • Profile picture of the author JosephA
        You're welcome G!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
    Just bookmarked this thread and I'll keep an eye on it
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeena
      Hey Joseph,
      Interesting to follow . . .
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      Thanks.... Hope we all make alot of money.

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      • Profile picture of the author JosephA
        Hi Jeena, thanks for coming by and leaving your thoughts. You're located in the Phils? I would be looking to get there some time fairly soon - stunningly gorgeous country for sure!

        Kind regards!
        Joseph
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      • Profile picture of the author JosephA
        Hey Charles, you signed up on my opt-in, right?

        I'm not going to be able to post up more info on here tonight regards the $1000 a pop affilate scheme, but will be keeping everyone on my opt-in fully informed as to what's going on.

        For sure though I will be trying my utmost to be posting more info on here the WF thread tomorrow! The affil scheme does not open doors till next month anyhow, so there is still time.

        All the best!
        Jo
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      • Profile picture of the author JosephA
        Marie, the release of the eBook will be anounced forthwith. I was planning on doing more proofing and editing today but time has escaped me. Have to wait till tomorrow for that, but I'm really gonna push to get this eBook up and ready as soon as I can!

        I will (promise) keep you updated on this as much as possible! Its not something I can outsource either as the whole writing up of the eBook has been outsourced.

        Thanks for your interest Marie!

        Regards
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    Regarding domain names, I couldn't agree more about Godaddy. They are an absolutely awful site to navigate.

    The other popular domain provider that a lot of IMers use and recommend it Namecheap. If you check namecheapcoupon.com, before registering a domain, you can always get a coupon to knock of a dollar or two.
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    • Profile picture of the author JosephA
      Mohammad, welcome and thank s for stopping by! Enjoy the "ride"!

      UMS, yup, totally! Go Daddy should now be called "SLOW DADDY". I find the site so, so slow to work with cos its gotten so clunky and big.

      Good tip about NameCheap.com and the coupons being available. I'm sure I checked them out a couple months back for a small glut of domains I was going to bye up only to find that cos it was the beginning of a new month all the coupons had expired. Life goes on, huh...

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  • Profile picture of the author seoforu
    Hi..Joseph...really looking forward to your article...and good luck for your success.
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  • Profile picture of the author edd fulus
    what a great thread..tq joseph for the sharing
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  • Profile picture of the author terenceyang
    Yes Joseph,

    Thank you for taking the time to explain my simple question in great detail. Now I am able to follow you tighter since I know your starting point now.

    Thank you and JUICE Joseph!

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    • Profile picture of the author JosephA
      SEOForU, LordGryn, Edd Fulus - many thanks for stopping by and offering up your support guys - much appreciated indeed! I've a lot more coming your way so please bookmark the thread - a lot more real juicy stuff coming up!

      Terence, pleasure is mine! Anything else that's not clear then please let me know and I shall do my best to explain it further. I've just been out to one of Kuching's (Malaysia) wonderful hawker centers - wow, the food is soooo delicious! Anyhow, I was thinking - mmmm... is there a niche for chopsticks? You know, the really decorative ones that you get in this part of the world. Worth having a quick check, no?

      My girlfriend is often wondering what's on my mind when I look in a bit of a daze... well, there you have it!
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      • Profile picture of the author JosephA
        Here's where I'm at now... its gone midnight in Malaysia so I'll be "retiring" for a few hours, shortly.

        I've set the site up and its ready for content. Not much to see right now but just to show you that its actually live, here it is...

        http://twilightposterz.com/

        Really needs a nice header, so if anyone can do this for me (paid, of course) or can suggest someone to me, I would be obliged!


        When I look at the domain name written here it looks good - got something neat about it. Anyhow, its up and its running, which is the key thing.

        I've also managed to write up one article tonight, which I shall work on early tomorrow morning to create much more content. I'll discuss what I intend to do to begin getting backlinks tomorrow. I did wish to begin this process tonight but it was not to be. No worries.

        I have a post that I put together in Notepad earlier on today which is still sitting on my desktop. I wrote it up when WF was down for maintenance, so I shall post that straight after this one as its important to explain the processes further. Sorry, this makes the process seem a bit disjointed. Hopefully it ties in reasonably well without causing confusion.

        Best to all!
        J
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        • Profile picture of the author JosephA
          Back to my choice in keywords.

          As I was saying, I was checking out the keywords/phrase "New Moon Poster" simply because it has 110,000 exact global searches according to the Google Keyword Tool. This is a nice amount of searches going here for sure! But to rank for it in top 10, let alone top 5 is going to take quite some doing.

          Thus for this particular WF Challenge, where I am trying to rank top 5 within 40 days, its best I go for something a bit less tricky.

          Let's see if I'm meeting my original criteria for a "good to great keyword"...

          1. Exact search stats in Google are 60,500 per month.

          My requirement was a minimum of 50k exact per month.

          2. A buyer keyword/keyphrase? Yes, no doubt about that! Although I would expect Christmas time sales (November and December) to perhaps even equal that of the rest of the year in sales! Although when a new movie comes out (could be in November, as it has been in the past couple of years) it does of course generate extra sales of Twilight-related merchandise*.

          3. What about the Google results if I do a basic search without the parenthesis?

          Oh, its only 6 million 220 thousand. I wonder if I would be forgiven that one please? As I mentioned before, this has got nothing to do with ranking a site/web page. It is simply not something I would even consider now.

          Anyhow, I guess ranking top 5 within 40 days of buying the domain name for the site is still impressive when there are suppossedly around 6 and a quarter million competing webpages for the same keyword. Agreed?



          Let's go through the criteria that I mentioned before to give me the reason to go for this particular keyword with regards to the competition for it on the front page of Google (according to the Scroogle Scraper search, that is!).

          In first place for "Twilight Poster"

          Ultimate Twilight Shop Twilight Posters, Official Twilight Merchandise, Twilight Jewelry, Books, DVDs, CDs

          PR1; Pages indexed in Google: 493; Links according to Yahoo: 67; Alexa rank: 5,180,735; Age: no matches (so its not an old domain).

          Can I get to number one without it taking me the next 6 months? It sure looks possible. Not sure if I could do it within 40 days however.


          Let's peek at number 2 in Google rankings for the same keyword:

          Twilight Posters at AllPosters.com

          PR2; Indexed in Google: 591,000; Links according to Yahoo: 19; Alexa ranking: 2148; Domain Age: Jan 1999.

          Now for this particular web page or site if you prefer, there are some tough things to outrank it for, as you can see. Indexed pages, Alexa ranking and Domain name age are all going very nicely in its favor! However, how many backlinks to this site and are they even relevant I wonder? I'll take a peek right now...

          Seems like they've done well on their backlinking campaign. Seems like a nice mix of domains linking back and many of which are relevant to the product they are selling.

          Therefore, its interesting why this web page is not ranked first. But that's Google for you. Having said this, perhaps the hyper text they use in their backlinks is not ideal. Could be a number of factors. I've not checked for on-page SEO which might be playing a part here.


          Let's look at third place for those keywords:

          askville.amazon.com/Twilight-Poster/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=3730530

          PR3; Google indexed: over 2 million; Backlinks: 5; Alexa rank: 597,990; Domain age: September 2006.


          Fourth place:
          Yup, a YouTube video.
          PR4; Google indexed 580 million; Backlinks: 3; Alexa: 3 (ouch!); Domain age: April 2005

          ... and so forth... you get the point.


          You may be thinking when you look at those stats that its going to take a heap of work to outrank these sites, and thus its going to take quite a bit of time too. That's to be seen, but I "sense" that I can still do this within my time frame. And if I can't do it, I shall not be far off. That's my thinking, anyhow! The proof is in the pudding, so to speak!



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          Seems that the WF was down for quite a while.

          I have my domain, I've pointed my nameservers to my hosting account. I use Hostgator.com having relocated from my previous company some 8 months ago. I use 2 seperate accounts with Hostgator due to my own requirements at this time. And I've gotta hand it to them - Hostgator are as good as all the reviews say!

          Its time to build this hot dang website!


          *** I wonder if anyone who's reading this is decent at producing headers? I'll pay of course. The topic as you know will be Twilight Posters. ***



          I'll be using the most up-to-date WordPress.org platform. Its about the only thing I can use cos my programming skills are next to nil!

          I used to be a landscaper back in the UK and my eye is pretty good - relatively decent with regards to artistry. And so the site should look reasonably good too. Mind you, any pointers to the contrary would be appreciated (no real rude comments please!).

          I'll spend some time (usually I can get up a simple looking WP site within 25 mins or so - practice makes faster!) setting up the site, but obviously because setting up WP is not what I'm discussing here, there will be no "tutorials", thank you.

          I'll be back to posting on here shortly...

          Best to all!

          Joseph


          * WaHa! I just heard that the new Twilight Movie is to be released on the 30th June of this year. How's this for good timing regards picking a Twilight-related domain name?!
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  • Profile picture of the author seoed
    hello,

    really interesting thread, will definitely follow.

    btw, the alexa rank for that particular youtube video is wrong. its youtube.com which has the alexy rank of 3!

    Unfortunately you can't see the hyperlinked text in the backlink (maybe you could if you want to load up each individual website but that would take days to do).
    I am sure you know www.backlinkwatch.com where the linktext of backlinks is also shown.

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    • Profile picture of the author JosephA
      Hi SOED, thanks for stopping by and leaving your feedback. Nice to have you following along!

      As I mentioned in a previous post, its not the Alexa rank of the particular web page that I am discussing here, its the over-all Alexa ranking of the sites that I am competing against that I'm looking at.

      Thus YouTube is 3, ezinearticles.com is something around 130 etc.

      Its the "juice" that is given by these sort of factors which then has a number of other knock-on effects, which I was interested in here, not the actual Alexa ranking of the video itself.

      Thanks for pointing that out however.

      Regards
      Joseph
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      • Profile picture of the author JosephA
        Shock horror!

        Well no, not horror at all - the site is already indexed in Google and in Yahoo. No content up yet either. I bought the domain some 12 hours ago!

        Funny that - most of my sites struggle to get indexed in Google within 7 days. This one is indexed within 12 hours, even with no content!

        Flying start, kind of...:p
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  • Profile picture of the author seoed
    lol, interesting. have you done anything to it?
    btw, why do you use this kind of template?
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    • Profile picture of the author JosephA
      Nothing what-so-ever SEOD!

      I suspect its due to the traffic generated from the forum here, hence big ol' Goog is sitting up and paying attention, which is PRECISELY what I want!!


      The template on my site? Its cos I CAN use it very easily. I like the very simple set up and I am not one for fiddling around with such things - I'm not at all good at it!!

      I have of course tried various other templates in the past - paid hundreds of dollars for this that and the other, but I much prefer this simple one by Denis Bernardy (who is a very helpful chap indeed!).

      Furthermore, I find that such a simple set up is great for click thru on AdSense. Some of my sites, even though they get little traffic, generate regular very high click thrus cos of their simplicity. Works a treat!
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      • Profile picture of the author JosephA
        UPDATE!

        This morning I spun my first article to make a whole heap of good quality articles. I took my time composing the first spun version - I try to be very meticulous with this part of the process simply because:

        1. it saves me time from having to thoroughly check every spun version for bad syntax (does still happen but its kept to an absolute minimum!).

        2. I am not comfortable with the thought of producing rubbish and posting it on the net. In my early days it was a case of churning out a whole heap of stuff, no matter that it was very far from perfect. Now however, I'm looking much more at quality of my articles and content. I feel its only right to put effort into quality writing. Plus, over-all, I would say that the benefits are going to be far greater than churning out rubbish. This depends to some extent on the type of niche you have or type of site you are creating...



        Next up after creating a heap of spun (high quality) content, I have to have some pages to link the content to, right? So I went into my site's back office department, had a coffee with my feet on the desk (sorry, just having silly fun!) and set up a couple of posts which will target these keywords:

        Twilight posters
        New Moon poster


        Further, I then set up a page (static, in WordPress) for my main keyword - Twilight poster.

        So now I have 3 keywords to target (I shall generate a few more to enhance the variety for my backlinks). I have 3 places to send the backlinks - 2 posts and one static page. I will create at least another page before completing the structure of the site.

        Twilight Posters for the Discerning Twilight Fan!


        Next, I shall post different articles to various DO-Follow article directories, which will be used for what I call my "anchor articles".

        I shall then generate a further set of articles which will be used to "smack-up" those anchor articles. Meaning, I'll backlink to the main articles in the DO-Follow directories, just to give them some juice.

        I can't do that of course until the articles are published, which they should be within about 3 days.

        More to come soon...

        J
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        • Profile picture of the author JosephA
          Here is the list of article directories that I use most often for posting my articles to for SEO purposes...

          Ezinearticles.com

          GoArticles.com

          ArticleBlast.com

          Amazines.com

          ArticleAlley.com

          ArticleDashboard.com



          The last one there take an age to approved and publish, but its probably worth while simply for the quality of the single backlink - do-follow. All the others are published within 3 days, which is ideal for a fast-track ranking campaign like this one!



          All these are DO-Follows which is obviously highly beneficial for hyper-text links and SEO.


          I also have a up-to-date list of 25 DO-Follow Social bookmarking sites ranging from PR3 to PR8 (if memory serves me well!) on my own website here...

          DO FOLLOW Social Bookmarking Sites

          Be sure to bookmark this page and come back for updates!
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  • Profile picture of the author refernshare
    Hey J,

    Thank you much for your insight on the subject. I am following very closely and I have picked up some few things.

    Good luck on this challenge and I will be following you, NOT ON Twitter but on this thread.
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    • Profile picture of the author JosephA
      Hi ReferNShare (nice username!),

      thanks for following along! Its good I can be of some help to your own campaigns in future - that's what this is all about, really. Its not perfection in itself and there is room for some improvements. Although having said that the internet is fast moving so we all have to constantly try to adapt as best we can do.

      Twitter - I'm missing out on Twittering actually. Its not something I have embraced nearly enough. So there is one imperfection of my technique for sure!

      I would certainly be appreciative of anyone who wishes to Twitter and Tweet this thread! The more people who I can help and encourage, then the more I feel I have done my "job".

      Actually, once this 40 day challenge is complete I am going to further embrace the social-media type scene - Twitter, Digg, Stumbleupon etc. Although I have learned that "this sort" of site visitor is not going to be a buyer, there is much more to be gained than this somewhat blinkered view would suggest.

      Furthermore, because I now put much more emphasis on real quality stuff - giving much more to the community, so to speak, I suspect that my work is going to be much more appealing to the social networks than it was previously.

      Thus there will be a much more natural progression in the search engines rather than so much "falsity" in the pursuit of attaining backlinks.

      This is my point of view as an SEO'er and I don't mean to offend anyone. I just think that SEO should be much more natural - where internet searchers actually choose the best content for their needs, rather than trying to force feed them what is not actually best for them.

      Hope this makes sense. Its a bit of a rant actually....

      Onwards with the Challenge!

      Thanks again...
      J
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    • Profile picture of the author JosephA
      Hi BBDirect, thanks for stopping by and reading ALL my posts!

      I agree - everything I post is well worth reading. To skip any of it is simply potentially missing out on something really juicy that can benefit someone no-end in their own SEO methods, and more besides.

      I don't say that to bang my own drum here. Much of what I have learned I have taken from some of the top SEO'ers around on the internet. Most of it I had to pay quite a lot of money to get access to. Thus its very high quality and workable stuff I'm providing. And no, I'm not breaking copyright - this stuff has been tweaked around by me, so if you like, its all my own stuff (unique content), although without re-inventing the proverbial wheel.

      Add to this the fact that I have tried out and tested the methods I am discussing. Some can be improved upon as I just mentioned re Twitter for example, but even if you were to use a few of the methods I have discussed and will be discussing in the coming days to weeks, you will be pushing your own SEO campaigns forward, perhaps even by leaps and bounds!

      To your success!
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    • Profile picture of the author JosephA
      Hi Angela, thanks for popping by!

      Did you notice the lack of lady SEO'ers on this thread? I'm unsure as to why that is. So from that point of view a special welcome to you!


      As mentioned Angela, yup, the site was indexed by Goog within about 12 hours - and the reason why I can only suspect is the traffic its getting from the forum here.

      For sure there are already a number of backlinks to the site - from this thread and perhaps from other webmasters or Twitterers etc. This should also help no doubt!

      Its a bit too much effort to make to merely get rapid indexing, sure you agree Angela.


      You wish to index your backlinks to your site/s. So for example here, you want to ensure your articles are all indexed by Google, is this what you are asking me?

      If so, you can ping them using various online ping services such as this very handy tool...

      Ping-o-Matic!


      Or you can indeed supply those articles or your social media posts etc with some backlinks. I shall be doing some of this in the coming days.

      However, if you are mass producing stuff and sending it out all over the web then its impossible to trace everything - or, if not impossible, simply not worth your time doing that. There are other ways to utilize your time that is/are much more productive.

      Check out Andy Black's website for finding out your stuff that's not yet indexed and how to index. His site is full of good content.

      How To Find Out Your Competitors Top Keywords | Andy Black: Online Entrepreneur

      Hope this helps!

      Regards
      J
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      • Profile picture of the author JosephA
        Thanks NouseForAName! Nice to have you here too!

        What a thoroughly interesting usename you have! Got a laugh out of me so well done on that one!

        Regards
        J
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  • Profile picture of the author nouseforaname
    Hi Joseph,

    Just subscribed to your thread, looking forward your progress. Good luck to you!
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  • Profile picture of the author mllnsgrl
    Hi Joseph..

    Great thread you've got going. I'm listening in and enjoying the ride. Looking forward to more posts from you

    To your great success!

    Cheers,
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    • Profile picture of the author JosephA
      Liz, great to have you here!

      As the saying goes... "all for one and one for all!".

      Yes, The Three Musketeers...

      You are here for me and "pushing" me along and really motivating me, while I am here for you in providing some HOT stuff that's gonna help kick-start your campaigns, if they are struggling to be kick-started in the first place that is

      To your health and well-being!
      Regards
      J
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan B Rusu
    Joseph,

    Looking forward to seeing your results.

    Now lets stop beating around the bush, what seo techniques are you using (forum profiles, linkwheels, ect) to get this site ranking?

    Or is this something your gonna try to sell us as a wso.
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  • Profile picture of the author tdpubs
    I'm looking forward to your progress in this test. I'll definitely take notes.
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    • Profile picture of the author JosephA
      Hi Daniel, thanks for stopping by!

      I have been "revealing" my SEO techniques from the get-go and am certainly not hiding anything. As surely you noticed, no? So there is no beating about the bush as you quaintly put it.

      And as for a WSO at the conclusion of the Challenge. No actually, not something I had thought about, but thanks for the suggestion anyhow.

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  • Profile picture of the author fated82
    bookmarked...you might want to consider writing an ebook about your challenge....
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    • Profile picture of the author JosephA
      Hi Fated, thanks for bookmarking!

      An ebook... Yes, I'm open to all forms of possibilities really. But never did set out with the intention of profiteering directly from this thread, as some would suggest.

      I'm utterly driven by ranking sites and not much else comes close to that when we're talking motivation. And trying to impress on others that it can be done and it does not take years to do, simply drives me even more.

      Thus it may be a good move to set up a forum and "teach" various techniques to all those in need of some direction when it comes to SEO'ing. Would be good to get some feedback from everyone on this approach.

      But for sure, we all have bills to pay and we all crave for a decent lifestyle.

      We'll see how things pan out Fated. Maybe this whole Challenge will fall well short of expectation, and everyone departs in total disappointment

      Thanks again and look forward to seeing you again on here!

      Regards
      Joseph
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      • Profile picture of the author JosephA
        Okay then, here is what I have managed to do so far today. Still a few hours left for more, of course!

        I completed my spinning of an article I wrote late last night to provide me with some 250 different versions of this article with around a 50% uniqueness over-all. Having used a few of those articles today for submissions etc. (including to Ezinearticles.com who happily accepted the article), I find that they are not absolutely perfect with regards syntax. This is to be expected though, particularly when you are trying to write/compose articles when the old brain is a bit tired.

        Nevertheless, I do go through each article before submission to any article directory or to my own site (or submission to any where for that matter) and ensure the article is at the very least good quality. Its a stipulation that I ensure I fulfill these days, at least for the vast majority of my submissions. These are not Pulitzer-prize winners. They are not even on par with my writing work on the WF for clients - those were generally very high quality stuff - go read the feedback on my other thread if you wish to see for yourself. You know my username on here so just search for it.

        Enough banging my own drum. Do forgive me!


        I then went on to submit to the 6 Do-Follow article directories mentioned in a previous post. Rather than submitting the same article to each directory I submit my spun articles instead, thus reducing any potential for a footprint, particularly thinking about Google here! I don't just change the title and the bio box. I actually change every thing and also vary the hyper-text too in the bios.

        By the way, if you are interested, the spinning software I use is Jon Ledger's The Best Spinner. Its simply superb! Before using this piece of software I tried a number of other spinners but I simply disliked them rather intensely. Now its a different matter.

        Here is my own personal review of The Best Spinner

        The Best Spinner Review

        It saves so much time that in my opinion if you are serious about SEO'ing your sites this is a MUST HAVE! Providing you don't already use spinning software that is.


        I then took a couple of paragraphs from my previously spun article and did a further spin on those to provide me with 120 word snippets. What do I use the snippets for?

        I can use the snippets to then insert a link back to my web page of choice. A single hyper-text link per 100+ word snippet. The hyper-text can be anything of choice, albeit no vulgarity or sex stuff or gambling related.

        I find creating snippets of text like this a breeze! Even when your motivation is flagging (my own certainly does at times!), writing out some snippets with the spinner is simple. Thus it does not take much motivation to make progress.

        I love using snippets like this for getting a link back to my site, its simply so simple, it simply is!

        But, you are asking, what do I do with the snippets of text?

        I use a service called Blog Blueprint to upload the text snippets and then these are drip-fed at the rate of 20 per day to blogs and other websites, thus I am able to attain rather a lot of very nice little text links without too much work.

        Want to learn more about Blog Blueprint?

        Yup, you guessed it, I did a review of that one too on my site which you can find here...
        Blog BluePrint Review


        I have reviewed most of the tools I use very, very regularly for my SEO work and posted those to my website at...

        The Thrill of Good Quality SEO makes my Life a Better Place!

        I think this is a fair way for people such as yourself to see for yourself what actually really does work, and work well, with regards to attaining backlinks or for other jobs that we SEO'ers have to do regularly.

        And please, before anyone takes a swipe at me for hard-sell. This is merely telling people who come to read this thread about great bits and pieces of software. Its informing my fellow SEO'ers, as I would do a good friend really!


        More to come....

        Regards
        J
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        • Profile picture of the author JosephA
          I updated my website at Twilight Posters.

          Well, not quite updated rather than posted some content to it. So its starting to look like a website now. Go have a look and do please give me feedback if you feel inclined. Again, I am no web programmer, I think that's obvious, right?

          I should discuss a bit about how I do on-page SEO, or at least did for this particular website.

          The main thing for me was to get some fresh content. I don't find writing about products in general to be particularly easy or fun. So what I decided to do was to bring in some posts from eBay.com re Twilight posters of course, and then spruce up the content a bit.

          I will go back again and do more sprucing to ensure that this stuff is unique, particularly the home page (static page) of the site, as this is where my main keyword is and this is the page I am trying to rank for.

          Try ranking a page where your content is not unique and you could be in for a hard struggle!

          Its well worth the initial effort of gaining some uniqueness for your web content where you wish to try and rank for a particular keyword. otherwise, its very probable that the amount of backlinks you need will be a lot more than if your content is relatively unique.

          How unique does it have to be? Not too sure is my answer to that. I've tried various techniques - change the first paragraph and last paragraph, change some sentences around, change some paragraphs around. Its a tough call but you can only really tell by trying it out for yourself.

          However, if you are really keen on ranking a web page then I would suggest you go for a minimum of 50% unique. That should be just fine for Google and for the others too. That's my experience anyhow.

          After all, its totally impossible to write a fully unique article if you think about it. You would have to invent a new language!

          You've heard about silo structures for sites etc. right? Well, this sort of thing bores me to tears and I switch off so fast as soon as I begin to read about it. So don't ask me for a run-down of what it is and what it is not, thank you!

          The Twilight Poster site only has 5 pages of content (I think :p) so the way I go about optimizing that bit more is to pop in links throughout the pages with my chosen keywords as hyper-text. Most of the links will go back to my home-page with a variety of hyper-text, and not just my main keyword. Some others will go to other relevant pages.

          Nothing at all tricky here whatsoever, and lo-and-behold, very, very often I find that when I'm ranking top 5 or 10 for my keyword of choice, I've got another page of my site hanging on in the top rankings at the same time. I guess I must be doing something right here, right?

          If I don't get 2 pages in the top 10 then I will sometimes go back to the site in question and put in a few more hyper-text links from one page to another. Maybe just 3 or 4.

          Certainly not an over-haul! Generally this will do the trick and I'll see my newly-optimized page rising up nicely.

          What else?

          Of course you need to get your keywords in your title (or H1 tags if you prefer). I often captitalize these too. You know why? Cos if I'm ranking say at number 3 for a keyword and I have those precise keywords that have just been searched for all capitalized and also BOLDED by Google due to their relevancy in the search, then my site's page is going to really stand out!

          I've tried this myself a number of times. Often in a Google search I will forgo the top-ranked site if I see another site a few places below that have my precise search keywords bolded out by Google and CAPITALIZED by the web site owner.

          I don't always use this technique, it depends on the subject matter - the niche. If I sense it has to be treated with some delicacy then I may not place the page title in capital letters.

          And ya, you should ensure you hyper-text your chosen keyword that you are trying to rank for. I kinda mentioned that before - just up there. So if I'm trying to rank for "pigeon food" then I would have to get those keywords in a link on my page. Fairly obvious stuff I know, but not to everyone. At one time not that long ago I would have been baffled by this!

          Another thing which is not exactly on-page SEO... I try to make it that there are not many clickable things on the page other than where I want the page visitor to click. So this would be things like AdSense of course, maybe a search box if my site is large, my own hyper-text links, which really don't go anyplace - just to my own site, or to an affiliate link which could be through an image or a plain text link.

          Otherwise, I want my recent posts showing and perahps categories for a larger site. Occasionally pages, and its required that you insert a privacy policy link if you use AdSense as we all know.

          Other than this, that would be it really. I don't want folks clicking away from my site unless I'm producing really hot stuff and I know that they will come back anyhow. In this case its no bad thing to pop in some links to other websites that are offering your site visitor relevant info or whatever. It heightens the user experience, it really does.

          If your own site is of good to excellent calibre, you should have no concern about popping in a few links to other good sites that will be helpful to the visitor. After all, this is what the internet is about - sharing good quality info with one another, agreed?

          Image alt text is also a decent way of on-page optimizing. Its so easy now with WordPress that I shall not go into it.

          If you've got problems with your own site regarding on-page optimization then do give me a shout. I'm no big time expert on it, but I can quickly pick up a few things that seem not quite right and I am very happy to provide pointers where I am able to do so!

          I think that's it for on-page SEO, although I've probably forgotten something. I just write all my posts off the top of my head so I do sometimes forget things. Old age, huh?

          More to come later on - Social Bookmarking etc. Its a long day!

          Best wishes!
          J
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          • Profile picture of the author Hajath
            thanks mate for your 40 day challenge.
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            Hem ... thanks for your sharing buddy ..
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          • Profile picture of the author cooljazz
            is it possible to get top 5 in 40 days??? i doubt it
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          • Profile picture of the author joanagoldman
            Originally Posted by JosephA View Post

            The Twilight Poster site only has 5 pages of content (I think :p) so the way I go about optimizing that bit more is to pop in links throughout the pages with my chosen keywords as hyper-text. Most of the links will go back to my home-page with a variety of hyper-text, and not just my main keyword. Some others will go to other relevant pages.

            Nothing at all tricky here whatsoever, and lo-and-behold, very, very often I find that when I'm ranking top 5 or 10 for my keyword of choice, I've got another page of my site hanging on in the top rankings at the same time. I guess I must be doing something right here, right?

            If I don't get 2 pages in the top 10 then I will sometimes go back to the site in question and put in a few more hyper-text links from one page to another. Maybe just 3 or 4.
            i hear from people that this tactic does not work anymore as google does not like it when you build links inside your website.

            what is everybody's opinion? would it still be useful to link pages inside your site?
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        • Profile picture of the author Toby.T
          Amazing thread.

          I consider myself a novice poster.

          I am slowly reading through all of your posts, I can see now where I go wrong with some of my SEO. Posting 5-10 fresh articles to different databases works.. but not as well if I spun them and posted 100.

          Thanks for the all work, keep it up.

          I have subscribed to this thread now.

          Would be good if you could post the effectiveness of the site (eg. ctr fromy your monetizing methods as well) after you make first page (I know you will).
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        • Profile picture of the author agentdrew
          Hi Joseph, what an inspiration you are! I've been following your adventure for about 3 days and am hooked!

          So my question has absolutely nothing to do with SEO and perhaps is a "trade secret," but I take it you don't just happen to be the biggest Twilight fan on earth and just happen to have an overstock of posters you are trying to unload, right? A big player like Amazon actually does warehouse much of their product, but how does a small fry one person webmaster do it?

          Thanks again for the inspiration!
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          • Profile picture of the author Toby.T
            Originally Posted by agentdrew View Post

            Hi Joseph, what an inspiration you are! I've been following your adventure for about 3 days and am hooked!

            So my question has absolutely nothing to do with SEO and perhaps is a "trade secret," but I take it you don't just happen to be the biggest Twilight fan on earth and just happen to have an overstock of posters you are trying to unload, right? A big player like Amazon actually does warehouse much of their product, but how does a small fry one person webmaster do it?

            Thanks again for the inspiration!
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          • Profile picture of the author JosephA
            Hi AgentAndrew, and thanks for coming by and leaving such a pleasant comment!

            Hehehehe!

            Well Andrew, the problem would be that to get Amazon to deliver to Sarawak in Malaysia it would cost so much that I doubt it would be worth while doing it like that. Further, not that I checked recently, but the sales from that site via eBay are not exactly flying off the shelves (yet, anyhow).

            So no, I gotta hook into the likes of Amazon and eBay purely for a piddly affiliate commission. Not piddly on high end stuff, but for posters its piddly.

            But, fact is, if you can do this SEO stuff and do it well, you don't have to just sit back and take in the piddly commissions. Its a case of "the world is indeed your oyster". (Hence why companies and individuals pay top dollar for top SEO'ers).

            I have a project that I'm gonna focus on (if I can muster the energy and motivation) after the Challenge which should indeed be more lucrative than the posters are, even though the search volume is no where near 60k monthly. Its AdSense based, and should be paying around $5 - $6 a click (I do mean cash-in-hand after Goog takes their commissions etc.).

            Easy money when you know how!

            Hope you continue to enjoy the fun!
            Best wishes!
            Joseph
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            • Profile picture of the author JosephA
              Haha! Looks like Toby beat me too it there!

              Thanks Toby!

              J
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        • Profile picture of the author JonasHastings
          This is really interesting! I was just wondering if the trick would still work this time. I am seeing a great change on how Google sees our site. I still can't figure this out, its just that nowadays I am seeing 0 cached link from Google but sees site who is doing well in the SERP's. This is really odd.
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          • Profile picture of the author JosephA
            Hi Inter, I know that Market Samurai do some stats and I remember the top ranked site was the same stat - some 42% search traffic goes to the top ranked site in Google or the others. Don't remember what they quoted for the other sites - 2nd, 3rd and so on.

            I got these stats from here... How Much Money is a Top Google Ranking Worth to Your Business?

            About a third down the page is a graph showing the stats.

            Cheers!
            Jo
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            • Profile picture of the author JosephA
              Hi Jonas, I'm not entirely sure about the problem you are seeing but you are right - Goog is changing and they seem to be changing rather fast too. We as SEO'ers and IM'ers have to try keeping abreast of the changes as much as we can. Mind you its tough cos Goog is so secretive, so we just have to be aware of what others are seeing in their own sites rankings etc etc and try to learn from this.

              Thanks for coming by!

              Kind regards
              Joseph
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        • Profile picture of the author telugucinimalu
          I wish you all the best Joseph.I will be following hereafter.
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          • Profile picture of the author JosephA
            Whoa! You've been very busy on that blog Teluguc!

            Is AdSense your only income or you have another source on the blog?

            If AdSense is your only source how are you finding click thrus?

            I'm presuming due to the amount of postings you got on there you do get quite a bit of traffic?

            Look forward to hearing from you Teluguc!

            Regards
            Joseph
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            • Profile picture of the author csgcsg
              Oh goodness $9??? I'll reserve 2 and when you are ready, I'll be the first to buy! One for myself and another to give away to whoever needs it.

              Penang weather is great, a little rain here and there and sunny most of the time. It is time for durians! Not sure you like it though.

              Yes the best spinner is another must have tool for IM. It simplifies things so much and the ability to product tens or more unique articles makes life so much easier.

              Another use for the best spinner is sometimes I do rewrite for college, uni students and get paid some extra money for rewriting 1000 word article.
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              • Profile picture of the author JosephA
                Hi Charles, yup, 9 bucks! This way its affordable to everyone, plus the advantage to me is that it circulates much more than if I priced it up at say $77 or something. Yes please, do buy as many as you would like and give them away as Christmas presents, birthday presents, Mom's day presents - whatever tickles your fancy, really!


                Durians! Em, not quite got the taste for them, no. I remember when I was in Kuala Lumpur when I first came to live here in Kuching, in the hotel lift there was a sign saying "please, do not enter if durian consumed beforehand!".

                Says it all about durian!


                The Best Spinner can be a touch buggy and this is a bit frustrating, but on the whole its an incredible tool. The amount of time I have saved in writing, well, I just can't even begin to try to work that out!

                Sounds like a very good idea Charles - re-writing quality articles for students. If you can sell bulk quantities - even 9 or 10 at a go, there must be some good money to be made by doing so, if done regularly.


                This place is lovely - Malaysia, I mean. I walk down to the shop regularly at about 6.30 in the evening and almost every time there are different cloud formations that amaze me. You know - the big white fluffy sort, but these ones are often tainted and tinged in reds, oranges, golden yellows and silver. And the flowers are so incredibly bright too. Gardens all nicely manicured. Gorgeous orchids growing all over. I think to myself how wonderful it is to be alive!


                Enjoy your evening/night Charles!
                Regards
                Joseph
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        • Profile picture of the author martin b
          goode luck joseph, but what are the kywords?
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        • Profile picture of the author joanagoldman
          Hi Joseph,

          What program are you using in order to spin your articles? are there any free ones that are good?
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      • Profile picture of the author tsampson
        Great thread, lots of good info. I'm going to watch for more. ty

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        • Profile picture of the author JosephA
          Hi Chris, thanks for your comments!

          Yes, I could have chosen an entirely different niche and gotten hold of the exact keywords for the domain name, but due to it becoming very difficult to obtain an exact match with the original criteria I set for the Challenge, that was almost certainly not do-able.

          I suspect it would have taken me perhaps days to locate a domain name whereby the exact Google search volume was above the 50k a month mark. I want this to be fast and somewhat furious so I preferred not to spend days on keyword research - it took me around 1.5 hours at most.

          This goes to show others who are following the thread that doing keyword research for something really decent (regards to search volume) need not take a week (or however long).

          Furthermore, I also wanted to show that it was not necessary to obtain an exact match domain to make this stuff work. So for example, where the "-" (dash) is concerned, this is very workable even though many people don't go for such domain names. I say its their loss really. I've seen quite a few websites with a nice little dash popped in the domain name some-place that are ranking at or very near the top in Google. So why not?

          Thus the "z" at the end of the domain name here. I really should have little problem ranking that domain name regardless its got an odd "z" at the end, which is precisely what I want to show to others that are following the thread.


          Its merely trying to simplify things that tend to be portrayed as being very difficult Chris, to show that anyone with a notion can do it.

          Thanks!



          TSampson, thanks for stopping by and leaving your comments - much appreciated!

          Regards
          Joseph
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          • Profile picture of the author ChrisGuthrie
            Originally Posted by JosephA View Post

            Hi Chris, thanks for your comments!

            Yes, I could have chosen an entirely different niche and gotten hold of the exact keywords for the domain name, but due to it becoming very difficult to obtain an exact match with the original criteria I set for the Challenge, that was almost certainly not do-able.

            I suspect it would have taken me perhaps days to locate a domain name whereby the exact Google search volume was above the 50k a month mark. I want this to be fast and somewhat furious so I preferred not to spend days on keyword research - it took me around 1.5 hours at most.

            This goes to show others who are following the thread that doing keyword research for something really decent (regards to search volume) need not take a week (or however long).

            Furthermore, I also wanted to show that it was not necessary to obtain an exact match domain to make this stuff work. So for example, where the "-" (dash) is concerned, this is very workable even though many people don't go for such domain names. I say its their loss really. I've seen quite a few websites with a nice little dash popped in the domain name some-place that are ranking at or very near the top in Google. So why not?

            Thus the "z" at the end of the domain name here. I really should have little problem ranking that domain name regardless its got an odd "z" at the end, which is precisely what I want to show to others that are following the thread.


            Its merely trying to simplify things that tend to be portrayed as being very difficult Chris, to show that anyone with a notion can do it.

            Thanks!



            TSampson, thanks for stopping by and leaving your comments - much appreciated!

            Regards
            Joseph
            Hey Joseph,

            I believe your logic and reasoning behind the decision is sound and I suppose it's foolhardy for me to believe any decent exact match domains would be available with that search traffic volume.

            Thanks for the follow up. Do you have a blog?
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            • Profile picture of the author JosephA
              My pleasure Chris!

              I have a blog at The Thrill of Good Quality SEO makes my Life a Better Place!

              Its fairly new and much of it consists of posts that I have made on the thread here, which goes to provide for a shortened consice version of the thread.

              Once the Challenge is complete, I shall be spending more time on it and writing a lot more good and very helpful content, of course!

              Thanks and regards
              Joseph
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      • Profile picture of the author fattaah
        i will definetly try the method in your link to get top 5 in 40 days and sure to get back you if i face any problem.
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        • Profile picture of the author JosephA
          Fattaah, that will be superb!

          You may wish to start with a somewhat easier keyword (depending on your circumstances and experience) and see how that goes.

          And then you can "up" this to whatever you want really. I sense that with persistence using these methods its possible to obtain top 5 in Google with lots of really tough keywords.

          Good luck and please let me know how things are progressing!

          Thanks!

          Regards
          Joseph
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          • Profile picture of the author JosephA
            SITE RANKING UPDATE!

            I just did a quick search on Yahoo. I know Yahoo does not bias like Google does, although I would very much expect search results are still different for various servers located in various countries.

            I got the TwilightPosterz .com site in 3rd spot.

            And, for "Twilight posters" I see it in 5th spot in Yahoo.

            Anyone verify with these ranks please?

            Just 6 days after domain name purchase - I think that's relatively good going...

            Not showing in Bing.com just yet. I'll watch out for it there - don't you just love the stunning images that Bing.com uses on its search page?!

            Regards!
            J
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      • Profile picture of the author amdr114
        Sounds interesting, will be following it for sure
        Good Luck
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        • Profile picture of the author JosephA
          Hi Banel, web 2.0 "anchors". The "anchors" is a term that I made up myself to describe the web 2.0 type of sites that I often use for driving backlinks to and through.

          By through I mean that I use these "anchors" to take the heat of getting quite a lot of backlinks in a fairly short space of time, which then in turn provides juice for my primary (or money) site.

          Its just a way of protecting the money site. If I had not used "anchors" then its 100% certain that the pages I am trying to rank would be some place in the sandbox or whatever you want to call it. And I would have no idea when it would come out again. Thus Challenge would be almost over and done and a total failure just as I was starting out.

          Hope that's clear...

          Regards
          Joseph


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          Hi AMDR, thanks for popping by! Hope you enjoy your time on here, and also the forum as a whole!
          Best to you!
          Joseph
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      • Profile picture of the author Maestrok12
        Man after my own heart...I went through the 30Day challenge with similar intentions.
        A few differences were most of the data that you get from various places, we got through the market samurai tool(majorly improved since initial release). Also, they do target "low hanging fruit" as the goal is to make a profit from ground zero in 30 days.
        I must say they mostly used web 2.0 sites to achieve ranking.
        Truthfully, I actually had success and took it to an offline biz in a very crowded industry. To top it off I ranked on first page not only 3 places in goog, but also in bing and yah. (2k searches local mnthly, 80k competition).
        And Yeah with an exclamation...TIME CONSUMING!!!!!!!!!!! But t helped me to better understand the process and appreciate tools, tech, and outsourcing.
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        • Profile picture of the author JosephA
          Hi Maestrok, nice to meet you on here!

          I imagine that the MS software is far better now - its packed full of goodies and for sure cuts the time for keyword research and identifying very attainable niche areas. Again however, I personally do not feel its necessary for helping with my own success. Not to take anything away from its capabilities.

          I have to imagine with the sort of stats you are talking its not tooo tough to rank in all 3 of the main search engines, but I tend to stick with Google and anything else is a nice bonus.

          I mean, after all, where is the true skill in ranking within Yahoo Search, even when there are supposedly some 58 million competing webpages. The Twilight Posterz site did that within about 6 days of buying the domain, in at second place (not that I am beating my own drum - just pointing out the facts). There seems little true skill in this, and so it would appear that Google is the true asset to conquer, time and time again.

          Nevertheless, its great to have done what you have done - transferred your skills to working with offline businesses. I admire you for that Maestrok. If you are providing a valueable service and ranking businesses local to yourself then my hat comes off to you!

          And I could not agree more with you - actually DOING this stuff is where the education is at. One must read - and read a lot too, but one must practice to make perfections and progress.

          Nice chatting with you Maestrok!

          Hope all is going well with your business!
          Regards, Joseph
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  • Profile picture of the author farahato
    That is a really interesting thread, and I am looking forward to following all your updates!
    And I have to tell you that this was a very smart choice of keywords
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    • Profile picture of the author JosephA
      Hi Moe, many thanks for coming by here!

      I kinda like the idea about the new Twilight movie (Eclipse, so I found out today) being out in the States at the very end of June. So if I can indeed rank top 5 for the Twilight Poster site by then its really nice timing!

      However, I think the bulk of sales are still going to be for November/December.

      But yes, the keywords/site can be turned around quickly if one form of monetizing does not work. If eBay does not pull in some sales then I may just slap up some AdSense and leave the site content pretty much as is right now.

      How long would that take me? Minutes!

      Enjoy the fun Moe!

      Best!

      Joseph
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  • Profile picture of the author seoed
    hm, Blog Blueprint seems to be a nice thing, however, $57/month isnt a steal either for most of us. Maybe you could offer us to use it as a kind of service?
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    • Profile picture of the author JosephA
      Hi SEOD, yes Blog Blueprint is pretty good although its been having a fair amount of teething problems. Still working out though. As you said, $57 a month is not within the affordable range for many IM'ers.

      The problem with offering up a service for posting to BB for others is that its limited to 20 posts per day. That equates to 20 links and if you have say 20 sites its only 1 link per site per day.

      There are other services that offer a similar set up and indeed I shall be discussing one a little further down the pathway. But these tend to be even more costly. However, there are more flexible ways around meeting costs for other services. Again, I may well go into that a little later on.

      I'm very much one for trying to figure a way to allow "things" to be more affordable for anyone who wants to use a particular service to further their online career. Providing it does not entail being banned from a particular service due to some form of "abuse". I had a very close call recently with regards such an incident, where I was merely trying to do someone a favor.

      Take care!
      J
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      • Profile picture of the author JosephA
        What else have I been up to in the past few hours?

        Other than the fiddling with spinning some content and then posting to my anchor article directories, and then fiddling on the Twilight Poster website to make things look more presentable and on-page SEO the set-up, I created a personal account with the Social Bookmarking site Mr Wong which is at www.mister-wong.com/

        Why do that when I could potentially use some free Social Bookmarking software to send out semi-automated bookmarking posts?

        In a sense I see Mr Wong as being something akin to Ezinearticles.com

        Who in their right mind would automate article submissions to Ezinearticles.com?

        Although Mr Wong seems run-of-the-mill as far as Social Bookmarking sites, in my opinion its pretty much near the top. Not to say I use any Social Bookmarking site much at all really, but if I was then Mr Wong for me would be at or near to the top of "to-do's".

        I know some of you would go for something else and that's fine. I don't use much SB sites - not to make hand submissions anyhow, so I'm not one to make the judgement call.

        Having said this, its my intention to use these sites a lot more in the coming months. I'm going to be getting involved with much more interactive campaigns with regards my online career once the WF Challenge is complete. Just seems to me a much more genuine approach to building an online presence. More about that at a later date.

        Mr Wong is a Google PR8, which would tend to suggest that its possible to get a little of that strong PR juice heading off to our own sites. No one knows this for sure, but we all live in hope. I know Angela from Angela's Backlinks fame would always argue that you do indeed get much of the juice from a high PR site.

        I have a few doubts (I change my mind about this one every few months) but I do think there are other benefits besides the PR from these sort of sites.

        On occasion I check out my website's backlinks - see who I'm getting a link from and who I'm not. You know, you go to so much time and effort in getting backlinks, only to find that most of 'em never show up. Is this to say they don't exist, or that they just don't show?


        Anyhow, I have noticed on a number of occasions, even when I've made quite a few automated submissions to various Social Bookmarking sites, that very few of the links show up. It always leaves me with doubts - they very rarely if ever show up.

        That's not to say that Mr Wong does not show up. He does (is it a he?), and he has shown up quite a few times too. And further, he's providing me with a DO-Follow link!

        Thus I do place faith in Mr Wong and thus I do now take the time to hand-submit to he/him/it.


        I would indeed be interested in what others have to say about their own experiences with Social Bookmarking sites.

        I suspect that in the past year or so their link juice has been watered down somewhat where Google is concerned due to the amount of spamming that was going on. Anyone else feel this is the case?

        I have more to add regarding submissions to Social Bookmarking sites but I think I shall leave that till tomorrow as its getting rather late here and my brain is closing down a bit.

        Till then, I wish your campaigns lots of JUICE!

        Regards
        J


        Keep the comments coming please, thanks! If anyone wants to do a bit of Tweeting re the WF thread here, then that would be most welcome!
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        • Profile picture of the author NenadR
          Wow this is an amazing thread, which parallels what I am trying to do, although with a bit less competitive keyword, and with far less experience, knowledge and insight. I might actually post a case study about that, this one from the point of view of a newbie to SEO.

          Just reading your thread has given me so many ideas, including a niche that I would like to target once I am finished with my current project.

          Looking forward to reading the updates!
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          • Profile picture of the author JosephA
            Hi NenadR

            thanks for stopping by and leaving some feedback!

            Using less competitve keywords is for many SEO'ers where its at now. Long gone are the days when it was possible to go grabbing the single-word or two-word keyword domain and then ranking for it within a few days with a couple of backlinks.

            Now its much more about grabbing the low-hanging fruit and making profits that way.

            Having said that of course, if you have some decent knowledge (very sound principles) and have a lot of motivation you can still target some of the hotter keywords and have a lot of success. It just takes a LOT more effort and a lot more time too. It is still possible though.

            Just make a good assessment of your competition, make sure you have a reasonable idea as to what's going to be involved in ranking at or very near the top and then off we go.

            Its the same process as I am outlining here, just that it would be better to pace it out a bit more evenly (otherwise you'd have no marriage, boyfriend, girlfriend or social life to speak of!). Oh yes, it does cause frictions!!

            Obviously if the top domains are ranking for really hot stuff then its best to leave them well alone. Chances are good that these domains are owned by larger companies who have huge clout and can afford to hire really good SEO'ers to work for them, day to day, week to week. Not to mention domain age etc. etc.

            Just make sure you check out your comp for any weeknesses before you target any keyword! Saves so much time in the short and long term!

            How many times have I myself targeted a keyword only to find that no matter how hard I tried I could not hit the top? Very often, let me tell you.

            But, there is something to be said about making these sort of mistakes - you can disprove theory. Almost everyone will be saying "can't be done, can't be done". You in your total ignorance try and do it only to find that a few months after you start out (if you are still plodding along with it) you are actually highly ranked for a keyword that "supposedly" was not do-able.

            Okay, I must make some progress. Its very early here but when you can't get back to sleep due to thinking about your day ahead... what to do but to put things into action, right?

            Thanks again for coming by!

            J
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            • Profile picture of the author JosephA
              DO-Follow Backlink showing up within 16 hours!

              Just thought I would make an update to progress. I just checked the Twilight Poster site to find that there is a Do-Follow backlink showing up on there already. That's about 16 hours its taken to show up - probably even less!

              Who from?

              One of the anchor article directories - its called ArticleBlast.com

              Its a PR5 and allows you to submit an article and provides you with INSTANT publication! I don't know of any other really good article directories that would do that, do you?

              Here's to ArticleBlast.com!
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  • Profile picture of the author Adder Noggins
    I think i'm about to burst with new information. I'm just getting into article writing to help improve my SEO skills and stumbled across this great thread whilst looking for a re-writer / spinner. Thanks JosephA and good luck, am definitelly following this thread
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    • Profile picture of the author JosephA
      Hi AdderNoggins, thanks for coming by and commenting!

      With regards all this info on the thread - if you are kinda new to this then I suggest taking notes and then tackling things stage by stage. I'm doing all this start to finish as I would with any other of my sites, except to say this is FULL ON. Usually I plod a bit here and a bit there.

      So its just a case of generally following the same format but perhaps at a slower pace to suit your own situation.

      Change bits here and there to suit yourself. I do - I do not use precisely the same techniques time and again. I'm going full out to try and meet/beat the Challenge, but otherwise my techniques would change a bit to suit whatever I'm working on, and my mood too. :p

      Article marketing is a fantastic method for SEO'ing, as most people would tell you. It can be hard work though and it does require a lot of motivation, particularly if you are seeing little to no hard-cash for your efforts!

      Therefore, spinning software is actually a big help here cos it makes light of really "heavy" work.

      As previously mentioned, The Best Spinner by Jon Ledger is the best spinner I've come across to date! My own opinion however. Its only a buck for the first week so well worth giving it a shot!

      Best to you AdderNoggins!
      Regards
      J
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      • Profile picture of the author JosephA
        MANY THANKS TO THOSE WHO HAVE FORUM "THANKED" ME ON THIS THREAD, THIS IS MUCH APPRECIATED!!
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        • Profile picture of the author JosephA
          HOT NICHE IDEA

          I best calm down on the commenting on my own thread cos I'll be accused of bumping it!

          I was out for a short while last night and it came to my mind another potential niche that some of you may wish to check out for yourselves...

          AIR CONDITIONING

          You see, there are thousands and thousands of air conditioning products here in Malaysia so of course, for someone like me it makes sense to check out such a thing for a potential hot niche product.

          I fired up my Micro Niche Finder software to check out the potential for it and it would certainly appear there is money to be made here!

          Some of the keywords are of course really tough. But some I did notice that had fairly high search volume - like 8 to 25k global a month and looked very do-able, providing your SEO techniques are "do-able" too.

          Check out the AdSense too - there's quite a lot offering upwards of paying out a dollar a click here.

          Make sure you check out your REAL Google competition before taking on any new keyword!

          If you don't have Micro Niche Finder or Market Samurai or whatever, then go for the fantastic Google Keyword Tool instead! I would suggest DO NOT purchase any software you cannot really afford - don't go hungry cos you splashed out $150 on some piece of software. There generally is something free available online that will do the same job relatively well, if not necessarily quite to the same degree of a paid for product.

          Struggling to make head or tail with regards these keywords?

          Give me a shout cos I may be able to help...
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          • Profile picture of the author BrentHodgson
            Great thread - loving the generosity here!

            Originally Posted by JosephA View Post

            If you don't have Micro Niche Finder or Market Samurai or whatever, then go for the fantastic Google Keyword Tool instead! I would suggest DO NOT purchase any software you cannot really afford - don't go hungry cos you splashed out $150 on some piece of software. There generally is something free available online that will do the same job relatively well, if not necessarily quite to the same degree of a paid for product.
            Agreed.

            Software should help your finances - not stress your finances.

            It should be like buying a new machine for your factory - or hiring a new staff member for your store...

            For what it's worth, if you're going to use Market Samurai, you can get a free 12 day trial off the site (this is enough to at least get people started).

            And the keyword research module doesn't expire when the trial does - so if all you need is the keyword research tools, then you can keep using Market Samurai for free.

            AND Market Samurai pulls data from the Google Keyword tool (listed above).

            I hope this helps people out.

            Brent
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            • Profile picture of the author JosephA
              Nice one Brent!

              To be honest, if I could I would allow lots of people to use the software I have for their own use, but I would get shot by the product owners, either that or dumped in prison for being too generous!

              I like your analogies too...

              "Software should help your finances - not stress your finances.

              It should be like buying a new machine for your factory - or hiring a new staff member for your store..."


              Market Samurai is a really useful tool and thanks very much for your tips there about using some functions free - it is pricey.

              For me though, it was a bit clunky when I used it for a bit. I need fairly simple tools to use them regularly otherwise, like SEO Elite by Brad and Matt Callen, it would be dumped in the closet, only to be used when absolutely necessary.

              Perhaps I did not give it enough of a shot to be fair to the software producers, and there is no doubt its amongst the most popular software products for IM'ers!

              I can get by without it but that's not to say its a valuable tool to equip yourself with with regards niche keyword research and keeping tabs on your own site rankings and those rankings of your competitors, if you can comfortably afford it. If not, then do what Brent says and take advantage of it that way.

              Thanks again for your insights and contribution!

              Regards
              Joseph
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              • Profile picture of the author JosephA
                So what's been happening since 5am this morning when I last posted an update re my progress?

                I tried to create a tumblr.com account so that I can add to my anchor directories, or in this case, blog service. I've never used tumblr before. I still can't use them either - the site kept crashing on me.

                I did manage to set up a Squid lens (which I actually did yesterday) and you can see that here...

                http://www.squidoo.com/twilightposter

                Kinda basic but its got some nice picies and some nice videos so does the job of imparting decent information to the end user rather well I think. Now don't get hooked on the videos! They are rather "persuasive" actually! Squidoo offers good quality do-follow backlinks so I'm very happy to use them for anything and everything SEO! FREE too, of course!


                Now, I've been informed by a kind gentleman on my SEO website (The Thrill of Good Quality SEO makes my Life a Better Place!) that its a misnomer to use the term "do-follow". But no-follow is okay. I have not looked into the intricacies of this and really don't have time. All I know is that do-follow is a vastly common term utilized on the internet and that most IM'ers have an understanding of the term do-follow.

                As such in my own mind this means that regardless of the term being recognized in Chambers English Dictionary, its a term worthy of regular use. Thus I shall continue to use it. But I do thank the gentleman who corrected me in this. Maybe the term should be regarded as an internet slang or something. Fair enough.

                I'm the sort of bloke who relishes going against the norm anyhow. I enjoy nothing more than to get away from the "follow the herd mentality", hence the reasons I now work full-time on the internet and now live my life in Malaysia (having upped from the UK) not far from the Orang-Utans, the swamp crocodiles and the forest-orchids.

                Its a lovely life here in Malaysia - simple but lovely!


                Next up...

                Twilight Joys


                Similar to the Squid lens really, but for all you YouTube video lovers (or Twilight lovers) there is indeed a different video on there.

                Note that the content is also different - not vastly by any stretch of the imagination, but enough to avoid a potential for Google footprint.


                And next...

                Twilight And Stephenie Meyer

                Same thing again, different video and different text. I got a bit hooked up on this particular video re the new movie coming out in June.



                I then made a couple more article submissions to 2 more do-follow article directories...

                - iSnare (must be 500 word+ article for publication - too long for me normally - I'm a bit lazy!)

                - Article Rich

                Not sure about submission-to-publication times on these directories but they should provide a couple more valuable backlinks nevertheless.


                I then got to submitting about 30 posts to Blog Blueprint (actually did this last night). The posts are still awaiting publication, although they have all been accepted. Too slow for my liking! Nevertheless, valuable links to be had straight back to my site.


                I also Stumbled my AffordableSEOTipsandTricks site, just to try to stir a little more interest in the WF 40 Day Challenge, really. I don't know how to use StumbleUpon to best effect. Something that I would like to learn after the Challenge is complete (or perhaps during it).


                Finally (I think), I used some article submission software. Let me explain this in another post though as its worth discussing at some length for a few reasons...


                Thanks and regards!
                Joseph
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                • Profile picture of the author reynaerde
                  Hi Joseph, been reading for a couple of days now, very nice thread!

                  I was quite interested in your mention of in-site links (if that is the proper term, I mean links going from one page of your site to another page on the same site). Are you indeed talking about links in the body of the text?
                  How does this compare to having a sidebar (navigation bar) with links?
                  Or do you have both?

                  Cheers!
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                  • Profile picture of the author JosephA
                    Hi Reynaerde, thanks for reading along and contributing!

                    Sure thing, sidebar links or header links or whatever - are valuable of course, not only for the search engine spiders to find your other content on the site rather than just your homepage, but also to provide direction for your site visitor. And to give your inner site pages some juice. It all works nicely. So yes, these sort of links are very important.

                    (Some people may argue that you only want to provide the juice to your main page/s - cut the workload. I don't agree (unless your site is very small of course). I think it wise to give juice to many pages of the site - just seems to make the site that much stronger as a whole. And furthermore, if and when you do get around to targeting your site's inner pages for keywords (which is often a wise pursuit - use of time and resources), if you've already gotten a few links - internal and external, its then much easier to bump up those pages, as a general rule.)


                    I also "shove" in a few links in the text body though. I read some time back that Goog loves in-text links, which I suppose enhances the latent semantic indexing (LSI) philosophy. I'll get a link to an explanation of LSI for those who are not familiar...

                    http://www.wilsonweb.com/seo/google-lsi.htm

                    That's LSI for you a la Dr Ralph Wilson who is an aficionado!


                    So just imagine a nice paragraph of text which reads nicely to your site visitor and also reads nicely to Google (if you will) in that the text is all very "sweetly" related and on-topic and you've popped a little hyper-text link in there too. I think you'd have Google doing a little dance, if you see what I mean here Reynaerde. :p

                    Hope that's helped out a bit!

                    Regards to you...
                    Joseph
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                    • Profile picture of the author reynaerde
                      Thanks Joseph. I really like your style in trying to optimize for both visitors and spiders alike, makes a lot of sense to me. This way you'll never have to worry about a SE changing their algorithm etc.
                      Very curious to see where you'll send up in the SERPs after the 40 days are over!
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                      • Profile picture of the author JosephA
                        Hi Reynaerde,

                        you are most welcome!

                        Yes, I believe whole-heartedly now that one should be highly mindful to try to optimize for both spiders and for visitors. Although, I do think that in time I shall be moving away from concerns about the spiders and just be thinking with regards my site's visitors. Just the way my thoughts are heading right now.

                        I'm very curious too Reynaerde re where my site is going to end up. It just came to mind that I may be able to rank 2 different sites in the top 10 within those 40 days. We'll see about that though!

                        Oh, did I just say that, did I, did I????

                        J
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                  • Profile picture of the author joanagoldman
                    you mention here that squidoo give do-follow backlinks. i do use squidoo as well but i do not see any backlinks coming in from them.
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          • Profile picture of the author UMS
            Originally Posted by JosephA View Post


            If you don't have Micro Niche Finder or Market Samurai or whatever, then go for the fantastic Google Keyword Tool instead! I would suggest DO NOT purchase any software you cannot really afford - don't go hungry cos you splashed out $150 on some piece of software. There generally is something free available online that will do the same job relatively well, if not necessarily quite to the same degree of a paid for product.
            I find Traffic Travis is a fantastic free tool for doing keyword research, SEO analysis and search engine rankings.
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            • Profile picture of the author JosephA
              Hi Peter, thanks for that advice re Traffic Travis! Is this software developed by Travis Sago and team, of The Bum Marketing Method fame and fortune?

              I'll be checking out that software for sure, once I get a bit of time anyhow!

              Thanks again!
              Regards
              Joseph
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              • Profile picture of the author JosephA
                Why I Do not Use HubPages for SEO

                Its a pain is why!

                Let me clarify.

                I've got a few hubs for various purposes that I've made over the months (first one I made was perhaps about 13 months ago (much later than I fiddled with a Squidoo account)) - but trying to rank them high enough (in the Hub ranking system) to attain that all-important outbound link, that much-craved-for oh-so-dear hyper-link that's going to sit nicely when it comes to helping my websites rank a little better in the SERPS; well, its simply a very tough job indeed!

                I suspect I've got more chance of ranking number one in Google for my Twilight Poster site within another 2 weeks, than I do in getting the much covetted do-follow link from any of my hubs!

                This is why if any of you are wondering, I have not made mention of building any hubs with regards the current 40 day Challenge.

                Yes sure, if I put even more work into them than I have already then it may be so that Mr or Mrs Hub will indeed finally grant me my wish, and I will be crowned with an outward bound hub link which is finally a "not no-follow" link to my choice of destination! Is it worth the further time commitment however?

                But for now, sorry Mr or Mrs Hub, I'm not going anywhere near you because you'll take delight in wasting my time as you do, every time! (Maybe I'm simply incompetent! - who's nodding?

                Over and done with my rant!

                Thanks for listening and by all means do please prove me wrong here. Do tell me that you yourself have some hubs that have do-follow (or non no-follow if you prefer) outbound links to your chosen destinations. Please, please!


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                • Profile picture of the author JosephA
                  Actually it just dawned on me - Monsieur Hub does not want me to get outbound links!

                  Monsieur Hub wants to keep me all for himself!

                  He wants me to rank my (HIS) Hub nice and high in Google so that he gets much of the accolade.

                  Of course! That's it!

                  Okay then, so its a case that when we want to work with Hubs then we must be prepared to work with them solely, and not concern ourselves with obtaining outbounds from Hub to our own domain.

                  And to be honest, there is much to say for ranking Hubs simply because they possess such a powerhouse of JUICE already! And they are FREE!


                  Apologies Mnsr Hub, I got you all wrong from the get-go! :rolleyes:

                  Regardez vous!

                  Joseph
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                  • Profile picture of the author JosephA
                    A quick run-down of my progress today...

                    Wrote out another 2 articles re Twilight Saga and then spun both of these to give me a total of 500 fresh articles of around 50% uniqueness, which is plenty to avoid a Google footprint - this would be my main concern by far.

                    Once again, for every single spun article, I will then fairly meticulously go through it to ensure the syntax is good and the actual article is good - at least that it reads well.

                    Why bother? I believe now more than ever before that any content I submit to the internet should be at a minimum of decent quality.

                    And why? Good question - after all much of what is submitted to the internet is possibly never even seen by the human eye.

                    For me personally, I just get this sense that for the extra effort I make early on - to ensure that my stuff is decent, there is more chance of it being circulated around the internet - webmasters (is there such a word as "webmistresses"?) - webmasters and webmistresses may come along in search of content for their own site, see a quality article (such as mine - I hope), and grab it for their own site.

                    Another webmaster/webmistress then notices the article on the new site and swipes it for their site, so on...

                    Chances are that if we are in the habit of submitting sub-par content it has little chance of circulating any place other than the trash can!

                    Chances are that if you are in the habit of submitting quality content then at the very least some of it will find its way a LOT further afield than simply its original destination.


                    So what am I doing with this new content?

                    I will not submit it to Hubpages that's for sure! Sorry Hubs!

                    And I will not make further submissions to the article directories that I have already used and listed in previous posts. For your information, here they are again...

                    Ezinearticles.com

                    GoArticles.com

                    AmazineArticles.com

                    ArticleBlast.com

                    ArticleAlley.com (still awaiting publication)

                    ArticleDashboard.com (still awaiting publication)

                    and a couple of new ones...

                    iSnare.com (still awaiting publication)

                    ArticleRich.com



                    Why not make further submissions to those article directories where I can get some really healthy backlinks to my site?

                    Well, the more I ponder this, the more I believe that once you have a link back from another site then that's that, the IP address that it sits on is "spent" - as far as Google is concerned anyhow. (Anyone with thoughts about this do please contribute, thanks!). Providing of course that the particular page you are seeking the backlink from has been indexed.

                    This last point does cause confusion, but I would have very serious doubts that a link back from any web page that is not indexed (in this case, let's say indexed in Google) would count as anything at all. There's no juice going to come from a page that has not been indexed.

                    There are ways and means to encourage indexing of these pages, such as pinging the page with the likes of http://pingoat.net/ or by "pushing" backlinks to the pages.


                    Further, I posted up another 30 post snippets to Blog Blueprint, ready for tomorrow's 20 post submissions, with a few left over.

                    I've also began to use a new software just last night to make some submissions in a very much drip-feed manner - slow but sure. This is not good if you want a mass of fast backlinks for whatever purpose, but if you are looking to rank a relatively new website such as the Twilight Posters for the Discerning Twilight Fan! site, then attaining links in this slow drip feed way is perfect!

                    Perfect for Google, anyhow.

                    Don't get me wrong here, and this is something that you should pay attention to as its been a subject for confusion for long enough.

                    Let's say you did a blog post on a new blog that was really hot. Somebody who was searching around the net stumbled across your web page and thought "dang, this is great stuff - I got to let others know about it!".

                    Sure enough, others do find out about it and they feel exactly the same, your content is so hot, its just about too hot to handle! The snowball effect begins - rolling down the hill and getting bigger and faster with every second.

                    What's almost certain to happen here?

                    You will find that simply because your content is precisely what a lot of people want, you will get a lot of "natural" backlinks in a very short space of time!

                    Now, is Google going to like this? After all, we hear all the time that Google wants us to

                    see backlinks to our web pages, but if we get them too quickly we will be "sand-boxed" (call this what you will... here is a definition of "sand-boxed" for anyone who requires further understanding (I think we all do - its one of those Google secret things where they don't really tell anyone much)
                    Sandbox effect - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                    If our page gets sandboxed it may not be seen again by any web searchers for months! All that hard work for nothing, right?

                    But this concept is not entirely true. If our web page/s were to attain truly natural backlinks even at a rate of knots, we will tend to find that those pages are going to be heading up fast in the search engines rankings. Its of no consequence that the links are coming very thick and very fast - they are natural links after all and Google is totally fine with this!

                    Its when the links are unnatural that the problems begin. If you were to attain a mass of backlinks in a week from say, a few different websites or a few different IP addresses, I suggest you'll have problems, at least for some time to come. Big ol' Goog is not going to like this at all!

                    Keep this in mind when next you are considering your own backlinking campaign. The more natural your backlinks appear (are) the more you will be rewarded (as a general rule) by the likes of our beloved Google!


                    The software I mentioned re drip feeding of backlinks - I've yet to do a review of on my site, so - sorry, but I'll discuss this further sometime soon. Please also remember that I do not recommend ANY software products that I have not used myself and have not benefited from myself! I value you as my reader as much as to say that I want the best for you, as I do for myself, and that's that!

                    I can't be any fairer than this so please, no shots at me down the broadside, thanks!If I am to provide a review for this particular software I mention, its not due to the SEO results I'll be seeing with it already. Obviously SEO does not usually work that quickly (it can, but under certain circumstances). I used this software previously so I am already familiar with it. More about this a little later.


                    Next, I used my Unique Article Wizard account to make two sets of article submissions. These articles usually take around 3 days to be accepted and published, but they are in the pipeline, so to speak.

                    I don't just mass submit my articles using this type of software however. That would be imprudent in the highest degree of imprudence, for reasons I've just discussed. However, I use these articles (backlinks from the articles) in a fashion that may not be commonly practiced.

                    Now, I mentioned this before and I am sorry to keep "teasing". I want to leave this at the moment - get a slightly earlier night so I can make a nice early start in the morning, and make some healthy progress!

                    I shall make a point to discuss how I use Unique Article Wizard tomorrow, and that's a promise! Its nothing ground-breaking but its most probably something that many of us have never even considered before - is all I shall say right now.

                    Best wishes and to your success!

                    Joseph
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                    • Profile picture of the author inter123
                      As an extension I am wondering what happens if you have seveal domains with the same host. Unless you got unique C class IP (if this the right terminalogy), it is possible many of your sites are on the same server.

                      And how would this effect link juice from ezine articles or other directories. If there are numerous sites on the same server, would link juice diminish as more are backlinks added, even though the links are pointing to different domains?

                      Originally Posted by JosephA View Post

                      Well, the more I ponder this, the more I believe that once you have a link back from another site then that's that, the IP address that it sits on is "spent" - as far as Google is concerned anyhow. (Anyone with thoughts about this do please contribute, thanks!). Providing of course that the particular page you are seeking the backlink from has been indexed.
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                    • Profile picture of the author joanagoldman
                      Hi Joseph,

                      you mention that when you write an article you spun it afterwards via blog blueprint and you end up with circa 500 fresh articles. Afterwards you say that you are using this new articles to place them on the 6 article directories. my questions is are you placeing all these 500 new articles on 6 article databases? or what exactly are you doing?

                      then you say you write another article that you again spun it and this time you do not place the fresh articles on the article directories. What do you do with these new articles then?
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                      • Profile picture of the author JosephA
                        Golly gosh Joana, you have been busy!



                        - what program do I use for spinning content? I've been using The Best Spinner now since it came out almost 18 months ago, so I don't know of any free spinners around I'm afraid. You can trial this spinner for a 7 day period for 7 bucks (check out my blog (resources tab at top) for a special offer on it).



                        - I'm not sure where you got the info about not linking your pages together within your site, but its wrong - utterly wrong! If you don't link up your site, how are your visitors going to find their way around?



                        - Squidoo - yes, they still do and I believe they will continue to offer do-follow backlinks (unlike Hubpages, which just got heavily penalized by Google - was that due to their no-do-follow policy??). Don't worry about what links do show up and don't show up Joana. You will never see the quarter of them no matter which tool you use to assess your backlink count.



                        - I used to spin up to 200 articles - many of which were for use in Blog Blueprint. Others were for various article directories, and sometimes for content for my actual websites. Any that were left over could be used in the weeks and months to come for whatever purpose.




                        Hope that helps to shed some more light Joana!

                        Joseph
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                  • Profile picture of the author WareTime
                    Originally Posted by JosephA View Post

                    Actually it just dawned on me - Monsieur Hub does not want me to get outbound links!

                    Monsieur Hub wants to keep me all for himself!

                    He wants me to rank my (HIS) Hub nice and high in Google so that he gets much of the accolade.

                    Of course! That's it!

                    Joseph
                    Welcome to Web 2.0. Not meaning that as a put down to you Joseph, but as a wake up to some others that keep building other people's sites for them.

                    P.S. Thanks for a good thread. Nice change from "do Angela's backlinks still work"
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                    • Profile picture of the author JosephA
                      Hi WareTime, thanks for your comments!

                      I suspect that, just as for me, many IM'ers are "wisely" informed to get backlinks via the likes of Hubpages etc. simply because its a nice strong and quality backlink. Little do those who are doing the informing realize that the attaining of backlinks via a Hub is so tough to achieve (now, anyhow - perhaps it was easier a while back) that its simply not a wise investment of one's time to even try.

                      This is my opinion only, but I think it rather a sensible opinion as I base it 100% upon my own experience with Hubs.

                      Nevertheless, Hubs as stand-alone money-earners are a really great method for any IM'er - no matter a beginner or a long termer, to make a very nice income! Even without any private domains in their arsenal (that may be a risky option - all eggs in one basket, so to speak!).

                      Its a matter of honing your skills regards choice of keywords to the point that most of the time you pick out the winners rather than the so-called "duds" and then doing the old backlinking game as you would any other website.

                      Thus there is a LOT to be said for Hubs indeed, and I don't wish to knock them much, its just that they perhaps should not be utilized as a "hub" in an SEO backlinking campaign.


                      Re Angela's backlinks - I suspect they have been and are ravished by so many - either spammers or those who simply don't understand how to use them properly, that the quality of Angela's (and her husband's) work is gone within hours of her releasing her new monthly packet. Which is a real pity because its a thoroughly valuable and of course free method of attaining really good quality backlinks, when approached with the right philosophy - quality work really goes a long way to gaining quality backlinks in return!

                      Thanks again for coming by here!

                      J
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                    • Profile picture of the author JosephA
                      Good day Inter!

                      That's a good question - if you have numerous domains (websites) on the same C class IP address, would links from the likes of ezinearticles.com etc. be less worthy than if you had domains on various IP addresses, perhaps even with various hosting companies.

                      I am no SEO scientist (as mentioned, reading some of the really deep techie stuff simply makes me go off to sleep, fast! Even though I have a science-based degree (a rotten scientist I would make!!)).

                      I base all my current knowledge upon my own experience, and if its not on my own experience then I've still to really learn the truth behind the concept to put my own mind at ease.

                      And that said - nope, if you have 100 domains (sites or whatever) on a single server, with the single web hosting company and you point links back via ezinearticles, goarticles, squidoos, wordpress.com etc. etc. then you will indeed still be provided with as much "juice" as you would if you had all domains spread all over different IP's.

                      I do have very good reason for trusting in this but I can't go into it right now because it would take me another hour to give you my own examples to prove the theory. Furthermore, how many other hundreds of thousands of SEO'ers and IM'ers utilize this strategy day-in and day-out to provide for at least some success in their own website rankings...

                      Just let's say that I myself have numerous domains on the same class C IP and I utilize the same "anchors" time and again, only to see the vast majority of my sites climb very nicely up the Google rankings, often to sit within top 5 or so - and this is relatively often using only 5 or 6 article direcotories without any web 2.0 help whatsoever.

                      I suspect that in itself goes some way to prove the theory, do you agree?

                      Cheers Inter!

                      J
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                      • Profile picture of the author k0brik
                        hi Joseph

                        i'm not so much of a poster but you got me in with this interesting thread, my first post here also.

                        I look forward to see your results!
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                        • Profile picture of the author JosephA
                          Hi K0brik, I'm not much of a poster either, hence I've only just passed the 100 post mark even though I've been "lurking" on the forum for almost 2 years now:p

                          I tend to find that many discussion threads are not particularly inviting to join in (or I simply don't have the time, unfortunately).

                          I want to try and make this thread as inviting as I can for anyone and everyone to join in, no matter the level of SEO or Internet Marketing experience!

                          Really good to have you here!

                          Regards
                          J
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                      • Profile picture of the author inter123
                        Thats good to hear, if nothing else, at least it will reduce expenses!

                        Originally Posted by JosephA View Post

                        Good day Inter!
                        Just let's say that I myself have numerous domains on the same class C IP and I utilize the same "anchors" time and again, only to see the vast majority of my sites climb very nicely up the Google rankings, often to sit within top 5 or so - and this is relatively often using only 5 or 6 article direcotories without any web 2.0 help whatsoever.

                        I suspect that in itself goes some way to prove the theory, do you agree?

                        Cheers Inter!

                        J
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                        • Profile picture of the author JosephA
                          Indeed so Inter!

                          It would be a real shame should we need to set up a number of different IP's simply to succeed at SEO. I suspect very few people would entertain the idea simply due to the costs!


                          Talking about costs, I'm currently "toying" with some ideas as to how to make the whole business of SEO rather a lot more affordable for anyone and everyone who would care to endeavour in the pursuit of ranking their sites high but cannot meet the price tag.

                          This would be my way of helping to make the game of SEO a more level playing field for all.

                          There's a lot of thought required though so I can't make any guarantees right now.

                          Watch this space and I'll see what I can come up with. I'll be posting on my website too in the coming days and weeks re money savers that I intend to be simply so hot that it would be really difficult to turn it down!

                          Altruistic? Not at all - I'm actually very selfish! Its just that doing this sort of thing makes me feel really good, which is indeed a selfish notion - but for a nice change to the norm, this selfishness allows a ton of other SEO'ers and IM'ers to enjoy the benefits too!

                          We'll see what comes of this...

                          Regards!
                          Joseph
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                          • Profile picture of the author JosephA
                            Unique Article Wizard HOT TECHNIQUE!!

                            Please, what I'm about to share with you is exciting stuff, so put down what you are doing and focus your thoughts while you read through. You will have no regrets if you do!


                            I've been blabbing a bit about this technique in a couple of previous posts so let's get on and spill the beans. Its not ground-breaking or earth-shattering but for many of us, its certainly worth incorporating into an over-all approach to our own SEO efforts.

                            Let's progress...

                            Using my UAW (Unique Article Wizard) software (you can of course use a similar-style software if you prefer), I fire it up with my 3 unique articles and there-after submit them for publication, which usually takes about 3 days.

                            Of course, previous to this, I have set up my "anchor" article directories and Web 2.0 properties - such as Squidoo etc. Now, its important to realize that these "anchors" need not be indexed. Its of no consequence for us. After what we are about to do the "anchors" will be indexed 100 times over, if that were possible!

                            When I'm in the process of setting up my bio boxes in my UAW account for these new article submissions, I DO NOT put in links to my own website that I am trying to rank for.

                            Why not?

                            Simply because, for now, I don't entirely trust the integrity of UAW and where they are sending out my articles for me to get my backlinks. Sorry UAW and Dr Noel, I'm not really picking on you here, just that I want to be very cautious in my approach to ranking my site. Otherwise your UAW is indeed excellent, thank you!

                            So what do I do?

                            Instead of pummeling my site with a variety of good to not-so-good backlinks, I merely pummel my "anchors" instead!

                            That's right. I set up my bios in UAW to link straight back to my "anchors" and I set my target submission rate for the day at 800!!



                            Not at all, actually!

                            I've found that by "pummeling" my "anchors" the "anchors" are strong enough to handle such a mass on-slaught that they don't buckle under the weight as would a relatively new website (or even one that's a bit more mature).

                            After all, don't foget that these "anchors" are already massively strong, even though your own "anchor" article or Squid lens or whatever - is brand new. That new "anchor" article gains a lot of strength from the juice passed to it by the directory or by the Web 2.0 property. It can happily live with the strain of mass backlinks!


                            Thus, what in essense is going to happen here is that the "anchors" are going to pass on much of this juice to our own website's pages, while at the same time, the "anchors" are soaking up the abuse of sudden mass backlinking and any dodgy backlinks, thus protecting our own site 100%!!


                            Let me give you a nice example of how effective this method actually is.

                            Not long ago, I set up a site for some eBay products to be sold and targeted a keyword in the niche of archery (a tasty niche for sure!).

                            I then set up a few "anchors" including that of ezinearticles.com, which is one I use EVERY time!

                            Within about 3 weeks or so of my UAW articles being published and perhaps 4 - 5 weeks after I'd bought the domain name from Dynadot.com I found out that Google had just done an update of their PR (the last one to be done - a few weeks back).

                            I decided to check out my sites rankings only to find that my ezine article had shot past my site, waving as it fled past! That was my mistake actually, and not really the point I wanted to make.

                            I am looking now at where I am ranked for this particular keyword in Scroogle Scraper. Bear in mind that the keyword has a global exact monthly search of around 15k according to Google stats. I'm ranking 4th for my site (often times I get another of my web pages sitting on the home-page's tail in 5th place) and currently my ezine article is 5th in Scroogle's Google - I use Scroogle, if you remember from a previous post, to provide me with an unbiased point of view. I suspect in the USA or elsewhere my site and article are perhaps higher than they are showing me in Scroogle. Who knows - its often the case, its often not - there's simply no telling what Goog is doing next.


                            Now okay, 15k exact searches globally a month is not going to have you retiring any time soon to sit and soak up the sun by your own private swimming pool , just cos you got a website ranking very nicely for such a search volume.

                            But what if you could emulate this, say - even merely 20 times in the next year to year and a half?

                            Obviously I can't project income figures but it would put your own site at or very near the top of the Google rankings where, according to Google stats, you could expect a total of around 300k searches per month!

                            Now, I leave it for you to do some more stats with this figure in mind!!


                            What have I done with this site and/or ezine article since my initial onslaught using UAW?

                            Nowt, as they say in North of England! Nothing, nada, zilcho!

                            Actually, I tell you a little lie there - about 12 days ago, I set up a Squidoo lens to get a further quality backlink. Only 12 days ago, so any further juice may well be limited, if having any effect at all as yet on my SEO and my current ranking stat.

                            And yes, it could be someone scraped some of my quality content from my "anchor" articles. I simply have not bothered to check for that.


                            How long did it take me to assess my keywords, build the site, fill it with content, and then publish my "anchor" articles (5 of which, no more than that - as we speak!) and then to publish my articles via UAW? Remember, I use the spinning software for all content which saves me ooooooodles of time!!

                            How long to do all this?

                            Perhaps 3, maybe 4 hours tops!

                            How many times could you yourself do this in the next 6 months??

                            (here's my telephone number... I charge $500 an hour! ). Sorry, just having a joke with you, of course!


                            Now, my site is ranking around 4th or something (who cares right now) but if I wanted to spend a further 45 mins using my already spun articles that I did a couple months previously and then submitting them firstly to a couple more quality do-follow article directories, then making up a WordPress.com blog with a video and couple of images (ya, watch out for copyright here!), and then a Blogspot.com blog. And then I submitted a couple of "editions" of my spun articles via UAW to smack, bang wallop my "anchors", don't you reckon I would be in top position in Google before the month's out? I can't help but think so!

                            I'm too lazy to bother actually. I get my motivation from discussing things with you and (potentially) training others how to do what I do!!




                            Actually, I'm REALLY EXCITED simply telling you all this stuff cos I know you will be really excited too!!

                            But there is indeed something else I gotta tell you too cos this is not all!

                            I mentioned that Google did its re-appraisal for the PR's a few weeks back. I decided to check out that particular article in ezinearticles.com just for the fun of it. It was of course a PR n/a because it was only about 3 weeks old or so.

                            Guess what PR it was "awarded" after the Google update?

                            I'll tell you... a PR4.... a PR4 in 3 weeks from publication and within 3 weeks of it first being indexed in Google!! Hot dang! What the heck!!!


                            Don't get me wrong (he says again...) here - I'm not proposing that high Google PR is the be-all-and-end-all. Its not! But you surely begin to see the SHEER POWER of this technique, right?

                            The other articles making up my "anchors" had not been treated quite as favorably if truth be told. But on last checking, they vary between a PR1 and PR2. Nothing shabby!! Its all really strong juice that's now feeding back to my website, thus I can't help but feel, even though I've only got about 12 links or so to that site, its gonna be ranking very high for quite some time to come, even though I don't go anywhere near it! (bar the recent Squid ).



                            This technique I have picked up over the past previous months - you read posts here and there on the forums, you pick up ideas and then you tweak those ideas to suit your own particular requirements. Thus I cannot take all the credit for this technique, nor really for any other techniques that I use!

                            I must bow down and give credence to many other SEO'ers who are hot at this game! But then, they have done precisely as I also do - "borrow and tweak". I am merely "discussing" these techniques and philosophies with my friends here on this thread, is all, right? I don't profit monetarily, I profit from within - my life is better - by sharing with you, so that you can gain in the process!

                            I see, I do, I tweak, until it works for me!! Kinda similar to the saying - "monkey sees, monkey do's (or is that - Monkey does hehe!).

                            In my case its more...Monkey sees, monkey do's, monkey tweaks! (Me being the monkey!)


                            Quite easy to remember this little saying, right? Its a great way to move forward and base your own techniques upon using this same methodology!


                            Now even if I "retired" from this thread right at this moment in time, I suspect I really have fulifilled all that I would need to, regardless the fact we have still to see where my rankings are going to be within the next 35 days re the CHALLENGE.

                            Don't worry however, I'm hanging on in here for the duration, providing my girlfriend does not lose all her patience with me - hmmm a bit late for that!

                            Yay, its tough holding down a relationship when your passions are divided (between your "work" and your partner) and your time is somewhat unfairly devoted (in your partners eyes at least). Best I say no more, you all know what I mean I guess.


                            Now go and succeed in doing what I just discussed with you - there is no time to lose!!

                            Best to all!

                            Joseph
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                            • Profile picture of the author JosephA
                              Good day to all!

                              I'm not going to update on my progress today simply because its much the same as the previous day, really. Yup, SEO is a bit of a slog! Its not the glossy, fun work that a lot of folks make it out to be, and because its not, it does take some serious determination to succeed, as we all are very much aware!

                              I do of course wish to keep updating the thread on a regular basis and will do until the Challenge is complete. Accepting questions too, if anyone is not clear about something then I'll try my best to provide as clear an explanation as I can. I'm happy to have a question and answer session, or call it what you will.


                              There is something I would like to share with you this night (night time in Malaysia).

                              My UAW articles have been accepted and posted through, so the service is quicker than its been for some time, which is always nice of course!

                              Thus, I decided to check the rankings in the Scroogle Scraper. In case you are wondering why I use Scroogle Scraper - its because the Scroogle does not provide me with a bias, as would a standard Google search from where I am in Malaysia for my own sites. Scroogle does still offer up differing results for different countries.

                              If I were to do a standard Google search then its probable that my own sites will be shown to rank higher than they actually are (not always the case however). And this is because Google "knows" that I spend time on my site, thus is biased to my supposed needs when I carry out a search for the same keywords and will show me my site perhaps a bit higher than it really is.

                              I hope that makes sense. Please let me know if not.


                              So what I saw there in the Scroogle Scraper pleases me!

                              Of course I carried out a search for my chosen keywords which are "Twilight poster".

                              Now let's remember that there is going to be a Google dance, and the Google dance takes place within milliseconds or something like that.

                              As an example of this, type in any keyword you wish into the Scroogle and check out the top 10 or so, then hit the search key again as soon as you like and you will see the results are a bit different. Yup - dancing around like a merry maid! This happens in a normal Google search too but its much slower. You check one day for your site to see it in 9th position. You check the next day to see its in 20th.

                              So let's keep in mind that for each different country there are somewhat differing results - the US will be different to the UK. Australia different to Singapore, and so on...

                              I put my own keywords into the search and lo-and-behold, there's my Squid lens in 8th! I went down the page a bit and I see my target site (TwilightPosterz.com) for this Challenge is in 13th!


                              Let's not get too carried away here though. I hit the search key again and I see my Squid in 13th and my target site is out of top 20.

                              Funnily enough, I just carried out the same search with standard Google (the Google server I use will have a bias towards Malaysian results even though I DO NOT choose the tab for pages from Malaysia). I see that my Squid is 14th and interestingly enough, my TwilightPosterz site is sitting right behind in 15th!

                              My good friend just informed me that in Singapore the TwilightPosterz is sitting 11th in Google, whereas the Squid is down quite a bit further.


                              With more "sweet" backlinks it is a case of waiting around for a while as my sites do the dance a bit. I'll be patient. Relaxed (reasonably!).

                              Let's not forget however that breaking into the top 10 is really the tough part. Its all very well to get excited now but the work is really just beginning. If I am to rank in the top 5 then there is still some serious graft (slog!) to be done!

                              So don't get bored just yet! I've still got some way to go with this Challenge before my initial goals are well and truly fulfilled!


                              Sit back, have fun and let's enjoy the Google ride together!

                              Its time for a beer!

                              Cheers!
                              Joseph
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                              • Profile picture of the author terenceyang
                                Gees, Joseph, you really amazed me and opened up my eyes to how this challenge can be fulfilled. You really sent my heart racing with you with every of your update.

                                Here's wishing you success and I am glad that I am following this thread.

                                Thank you.

                                Terence
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                                • Profile picture of the author JosephA
                                  Hi Terence, many thanks for your kind words! Its good that I can help you to see things that much more "clearly". And I hope you can now implement some of what I've been discussing here into your own campaigns thereby enhancing your own results when it comes to ranking well in Google.

                                  Thanks again and best wishes!
                                  Joseph
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                    • Profile picture of the author JosephA
                      Hi DHex, many thanks for following along and for leaving some feedback - its always really appreciated to know that others such as yourself are enjoying this journey, while we work to dispel some myths and prove other theories that abound on the net.

                      Kind regards and thanks again!
                      J
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  • Profile picture of the author o0haco0o
    First let me start by saying thanks for all the wonderful information that you are providing here. I am in the process of starting up a web hosting/design company and this is really helping me to understand the important factors with SEO.

    I do have a problem choosing good keywords and the market that im targeting is highly competitive. The domain name does not include any keyword. Domain name: kjinnovations dot net.

    I dont have many options for keywords most have high up people like godaddy and hostgator. I wanted to use something along the lines of "professional web hosting"
    "quality web hosting", "affordable professional web hosting". Any pointers? Ive done some light research on the keywords but not much as i am not available to right now.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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    • Profile picture of the author JosephA
      Hi o0haco0o,

      thanks for coming by here and for your question re keywords for your hosting company.

      At first sight/thought, and as you stated, hosting is one heck of a hot topic simply due to the amount of money that can be made. And that's not only for the hosting company itself but also for affiliates there-of.

      What do they pay out for aff commissions now? Something in the region of $100 plus for each sign-up? Therefore its not easy money for most - not any longer, simply due to the sheer competitive nature of the domain (pardon the pun!).

      I'll see what there is around. Perhaps wise to start off with low-hanging fruit where the monthly search volume is not so high, but the competition is not so hot that its gonna take a year to rank.

      Over time, as you build up your site/blog (depending on how you wish to point your main targeting efforts to boost traffic), its a good idea to begin going for the bigger rewards due to your own website gaining "accolade" in the likes of Google's eyes.

      That's not to say you should not endeavour to rank for high comp keywords from the very outset. I suspect I would myself! Just that its best to realize that faster rewards are to be had from picking the low hangers and working your way up. This keeps your own goals fresh and motivation high cos you can see relatively early results.

      I'll PM you with some potentials a little later o0haco0o

      See what you make of them...

      Since you can't PM me my email is josef.archibald@ymail.com

      Cheers!
      Joseph
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      • Profile picture of the author Jake03
        Thanks for sharing your journey. I'll be watching with interest.

        BTW - Namecheap recycles their coupon codes each year. So if you don't find one advertised, look for the one for the same month last year and it will usually work. I think May is MOTHERSLOVE.

        Jake
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    • Profile picture of the author JosephA
      Hi Jake, thanks for coming by!
      Nice tip re Namecheap and thanks for sharing that!
      No doubt this will benefit a lot of folks who are reading along on this thread!
      Great stuff!



      Hi jorjefarnandis, yup, I know exactly where you're coming from!
      For months, even years I too was thoroughly troubled by getting good Google rankings. No matter what I seemed to try did not seem to fit.

      I never gave up though, even though there is MANY a time when I thought it would be a wise move to pack my bags and move on (this was also the thinking of many of those close to me - friends etc.). I can be incredibly stubborn however, so no matter what anyone says to me, I know when its best to persevere with something.

      Now this is not to say I make a mass of money every year. But, let's see how this WF Challenge pans out and then we can all make a few more judgement calls if the techniques I'm using for this actually work or not.

      I think that what I've written up so far is fairly sound SEO stuff, hence the reason so many folks are following along. Folks know a good thing when they see/sense it, so to speak.

      Let's hope for everyone that what I am doing does get the results I/we seek. Cos if it does then its merely a case of emulating my tactics to achieve similar results, time and time and time again!

      Regards
      J
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      • Profile picture of the author inter123
        Hey Joseph.

        Thanks for starting this great thread.

        I have been reading that the more backlinks a domain provides, the less valueable links further down the line become. If its the case, how many links would you recommend receiving from each article directory?

        Thanks.

        J
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        • Profile picture of the author JosephA
          Hi Inter123, nice to have you here!

          You are asking how many links per article directory to the same domain?

          If so, then its not such an easy determination, Inter. However, what I do is to get my main keywords in my bios - a couple at a go, and the most articles I would submit for SEO backlinking purposes would be 2. I suspect there is little worth submitting any more than this, and it may be that 1 is all you truly get any juice for.

          If you wish to get traffic via articles, via the directories and via other webmasters scraping your content, then the more good quality articles the merrier! And this technique also helps out for SEO in that yes, webmasters may well grab your content (bio box intact), thus gaining more links from all over.

          But getting a number of backlinks from the same IP address is, it could be argued, merely wasting precious backlinking time.

          Experiment and see what works out for you. Each to their own really.

          Best to you!
          J
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  • Profile picture of the author o0haco0o
    Ok i got your message Joseph but unfortunately my post count is not high enough to PM you back lol. I have an idea that i wanted to share with you that may narrow this down somewhat if not alot. Honest opinion is great because it may or may not be a good idea. Im also going to offering web deisgn/hosting packages. Im not sure if i can incorporate web design and hosting into the same keyword effectively or if it is even a good idea. Let me know what you think. Like i said i can read your PM's but i can only respond here. Thanks for all your help it is greatly appreciated.
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    • Profile picture of the author JosephA
      Hi Oohoaco, that sounds like a very workable combination really. I know my own hosting company offer up the same combination but they don't seem to push it much (or, I may be wrong there).

      No doubt there's a massive demand for both skills on a seperate basis so it would make sense that the combination would be thoroughly workable, particularly with a very personalized service provided, I suspect.

      If you could manage to provide the personal "touch" with your service and still make the venture nicely profitable - yup, that's potential for winner in my mind!

      Anyhow, I shall let you get back to me via email so we can continue this discussion further.

      Regards
      J
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  • Profile picture of the author JosephA
    Hi o0hac, you can email me at josef.archibald@ymail.com

    I'll PM you that email too in case you're not checking out the thread.

    Cheers!
    J
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  • Profile picture of the author NetWorth
    Dependent on the key words that your shooting for it not "that" hard to get inside the top 5 in Google. 40 days is definately a reasonable time frame for a reasonable set of key words. Best of Luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author JosephA
      Hi Networth, thanks for coming by!

      Yes indeed that is the case - some keywords can be ranked for within days if you so wish, but at the sacrifice (generally) of potential traffic and thus potential profits.

      My aim here is to tackle a rather tough keyword in a relatively short time frame to hopefully prove that it is possible to attain results - even with a somewhat tricky agenda. Thus in essence, its also proving (in many ways) that you can make decent money on the internet even now that it is soooo competitive.

      Thanks again...
      Regards
      J
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      • Profile picture of the author JosephA
        I mentioned that I would make a specific post re article submitting using software, so here we go...


        I've tried a number of article submitting software products over the months and years but the best one for me (I feel comfortable with it) is Unique Article Wizard (UAW).

        Now before some of you begin poo-poo-ing UAW - I understand that its had some bad press on the Warrior Forum of recent, and probably for good reason actually; I would like to have my say about it, if I may.

        I've been using this software on and off for around 15 months now, so I've got a fair bit of experience with it. I dip in and out with it as it costs $67 a month and some months I focus on other aspects of my business than mass article submission. No point paying up when you are not using the service, right?

        Early days with it I had problems no doubt. I found that although I was sticking within the "guidelines" - 25 submissions a day etc. I was not getting the results that I wanted and expected. I checked this out with some members of an IM forum I was frequenting back then and received good feedback in general about it - UAW. So I persevered, thinking that if others are getting good results then so must I.

        Well, to cut a long story shorter, I was not entirely satisfied with the results. The philosophy is sound - submit articles to many directories and blogs and other websites all on different IP's to get sound backlinks. Seems good, no?

        I did manage to get some reasonably good results with it... some top 10'ers in Google and Yahoo and Bing too, even where the keywords were pretty tough. Although these web pages yoyo-d tremendously. But one thing I have also noticed is that, even though many of those pages I hit hard with UAW a while back are no-where near top 10 in Google or any of the other search engines, if I set up a small campaign to get some quality backlinks now to those same web pages, it does not take too much to really get them pumping up the ranks.

        Thus, there does appear to be an "innate" strength left over from days gone by if UAW has been used. That's food for thought I think!


        An example: I have a site that I thought I could rank fairly easily - I spent a lot of money on it - outsourced the writing and outsourced some of the programming (tweaking). In fact, I was paying a young lady to go buy the books, read them and then write a review about them.

        Kinda dumb perhaps! Hindsight is a good thing, no doubt. :rolleyes:

        The site managed to get into top 10 - 8th was the highest in Google, for its main keyword, which was a tough keyword, simply because I blasted it (to death) with UAW articles. It was up and down for a long time. In and out. But finally settled around 8th position in Google (I think it got to about 5th in Yahoo).

        Another related keyword it was ranking in Google around 6th, which also
        was bringing in quite a bit of traffic.

        Let me just check where this site is now for those keywords.

        6th for the main keyword and 3rd for the secondary. Not bad.

        The point is though that lately I sent a few links (around 25 only) back to it via Blog Blueprint which I mentioned before and other than this I have done nothing with the site for months.

        I suspect if I took time to send a few more links via Blog Blueprint or some other quality tool (or perhaps setting up Squids etc. then I could get those rankings just that bit higher.

        And considering my site is only a PR1 (those particular web pages that are ranking are PR1), and the site is around 18 months old, its doing well. Its outranking a few PR6's that also have high Alexa rankings, domain age and a number of other things besides.

        Hmmm... what does this tell you?



        There is another way I use UAW too which I shall write up in another post coming soon.


        Sorry for going on a bit there - its been a long hard struggle with Unique Article Wizard but just by observing the longer term results and experimenting a bit here and there with some techniques, I think UAW can be utilized to really pump up the volume, so to speak.

        If you yourself decide to invest in it, just don't go mad with it. Its easy to mass submit to get lots of links back to your site in short shrift, but this is not wise if you want to rank in Google. In Yahoo and Bing, I suspect they are more forgiving about those mass, fast linking techniques.


        I'll discuss a way to actually blast out your links from UAW (or any similar software) without it hurting your site in the slightest way, while providing some really nice juice to your chosen site pages. That's coming up!


        Regards
        J
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        • Profile picture of the author ChrisGuthrie
          Interesting challenge, but if you're targeting a specific keyphrase is there any reason why you didn't try and go after the exact match domain when you were choosing what to build?

          I know that the .org, .net and .com are taken in this situation so is there a reason why you just didn't pick another keyword?

          In either case I wish you the best of luck. I think it will be very difficult to outrank those top sites based on how old they are and how many links they have incoming (both to the main page and the url that's ranking).
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  • Profile picture of the author tamtu
    Thanks for the great stuff, I am with you through the challenge...
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    • Profile picture of the author JosephA
      Tamtu, thanks for coming by, its really nice to have you following along with the Challenge! Hope you gain some benefit!

      Kind regards
      Joseph
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      • Profile picture of the author wealth definer
        Hey Joseph,

        After you spun an article and have like 250 versions of it, do you submit all different versions of it to the article directories?
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        • Profile picture of the author JosephA
          Hi Wealth Definer, thanks for coming by!

          Well, in a sense yes, but in a sense no - let me explain this further.

          I don't submit all 250 spun articles to my "anchor" directories. I don't feel it at all necessary to go seeking out 250 quality article directories for the purposes of trying to rank any keyword.

          I will submit my articles BY HAND to my key article directories as mentioned above, all of which are do-follow. That's currently 8 directories. I then I use these as my anchors, along with Squidoo, with Wordpress.com and with Blogger.com (there may be 2 or 3 more to come, but right now this is what I am focusing on).

          However, I am about to explain further (as promised) how I go about using Unique Article Wizard to enhance my "anchors".

          Its very much two seperate processes, in essence. I'll qualify this shortly Wealth Definer.

          Cheers!
          J
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          • Profile picture of the author stevenjotello
            Dhexe Hello, thank you to follow along and leave comments - it is always appreciated knowing that others like you enjoy this journey as we work to dispel some myths and prove other theories that abound on the web.
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            • Profile picture of the author JosephA
              Hi Steven, thanks for reading up on the thread - I hope its of real benefit to you!

              Not so sure that I really enjoy the IM journey too much (not every day anyhow), but let's face the facts - its beats having a full time j_o_b

              Regards
              Joseph
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  • Profile picture of the author Doubleup
    Great thread, I'm following your steps like a hawk.

    I only got into the SEO game about a month ago, after stumbling across a thread on a similar forum, and I'm kicking myself, as I've been using the internet as a consumer for well over 10 years, but didn't see things from this angle. At the moment i have my first site up and running, and I'm taking action and soaking in as much info as possible, and threads like this definitely help.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brankas
    nice share for me a new member in here.. permission to bookmarks
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  • Profile picture of the author dhex
    Just subscribed to this thread. I will be following your progress till the end. Case studies are great to clear myths. Thanks for doing this Joseph.
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  • Profile picture of the author jason_simpson
    Hi Joseph,

    you have really made this thread quiet interesting. its has a lot of stuff for me to learn. I would really try each and every thing that you have mentioned here.

    Thanks for the wonderful discussion. Have bookmarked this page so that I can keep following it.
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    • Profile picture of the author JosephA
      Hi Jason, you caught me just before I turned off my laptop for the night, but as I'm a total "work-a-holic" I thought I'd get back to you immediately

      Many thanks for your kind words and encouragement!

      I think it wise to try each and every thing I have mentioned, but after that, do find your own way for doing things. I do things my way - it suits my abilities (or lack of!) and it suits my "lazy" style. Kinda odd that - a lazy work-a-holic!

      Just keep on tweaking and find what is comfortable for you - make it personal - you'll enjoy it much more! Try to keep aware of any big changes that are occuring with Google, with Yahoo or with Bing. Just touch base with the forums occasionally as there's always chat - much of which is very much hear-say, occasionally its factual.

      In fact, I don't do much watching of the forums myself, but over the months to years I've hooked in with some of the best SEO'ers and their auto-responders - email messages. Takes time to work out who is really TOP and who is simply all talk. Comes with experience though - you can soon tell.

      Its a pretty good way to monitor what's going on out there without spending lots of time searching around.

      Kind regards to you Jason and thanks again!

      J
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      • Profile picture of the author JosephA
        Morning/evening,

        I just wanted to point something out in case you have not quite seen things from this point of view. Of course - many of you will, so please forgive me if I'm going over something you are familiar with.

        You know full well that I had a bit of a blast at Hubpages with regards their use for SEO'ing other websites - attaining a do-follow backlink from the Hub.

        You also know that I said that Hubs on their own are to be thoroughly admired indeed for what you can do with them over-all as a standalone website.

        Sure thing, I think for AdSense, Amazon and eBay, they take a cut of 40% of your profits because you are using their free platform to display your work. I think its 40%, but do correct me on this if otherwise.

        Well, that leaves 60% for you to pocket at your leisure.

        Now let's envisage a scenario (very losely). Let's imagine you find a nice very hot keyword that's getting some 30k exact global searches a month. Let's also imagine that for that keyword Goog AdSense are offering up to pay something in the region of $1.50 per click. And I do mean they are going to PAY you that to you.


        Okay then, let's do some figures here shall we...

        * Goog pays out $1.50 a click.

        * Hub takes 40% of that as their cut, which leaves you with 90 cents.


        Now let's imagine that you can indeed get the top spot with this hub. The search vol is nicely high for sure and its going to be tough going no doubt. But let's see the benefits here of using a Hub...

        1. Its strong already! You got automatic juice as soon as you begin, thus ranking it some place in top 30 is not going to be too much of an ordeal, possibly even with little to no backlinking.

        2. You can smack it with all sorts of backlinks and you can smack it with 100 backlinks a day or however many and chances are that it will happily soak up this abuse, very much unlike our delicate new website, which would fade away rather rapidly with that sort of backlinking strategy. Our own private domain has to be treated as we would a baby - softly does it!

        3. You can pick out a copy-righted domain name and not be concerned about infringement. This is NOT the case with your own private domain. You could be told to take the site off the net
        if you infringe copyright. You may even be sued for infringement. I don't know of a case where that's happened but it will for sure. Its only a matter of time!

        For example, let's presume I want to go for a hot product and thus a hot domain name...
        sonylaptops.com

        Of course that's not available but if it were, do you think that Sony is going to sit back and let me use that name? Ah, I doubt it! But for a Hub, no worries! And, chances are reasonable that this domain name is going to be available too under the Hub name anyhow.

        Okay, not so much Sony, but let's say the name of some other common product names.

        The domain name may be "watered down" a bit due to it being something like this...

        NIGHT LIGHTS FOR THE KIDS, NIGHT LIGHTS FOR THE PARENTS

        But you are still getting the keyword in the domain name. And I suspect that Goog is very happy about that!

        Further, if you do fairly regular Goog searches, how often do you see a Hub someplace in the top 30 rankings (if you go down that far)? Quite a lot!


        Now let's imagine that the guy or girl who produced that hub had a good idea about how to attain a few really good quality backlinks to that hub. Do you think that this hub would still be sitting in 30th? I seriously doubt it! Its a sinch to get that hub running up the rankings faster than you can say the proverbial "Jack Daniels", it really is!

        But the poor old hubmaster (or hubmistress) simply has no idea how to go about the business.

        You do!


        Let's get back to the stats - the income potential for this hub...

        You/we get 90 cents per click - in our pocket, after expenses.

        The search volume per month (let's just take the global for this example) is indeed 30k EXACT.

        Let's imagine we can get the top spot in Goog here.

        Let's take a figure that is commonly bandied about as being the approx amount of people who are doing a search to visit the top ranked site for that search... the site that is ranked at number 1...

        42%

        Let us take a click through rate of... 5%, which seems fairly average (its obviously possible to ramp this up on a private domain - and ramp it up a whole lot too!).


        Figure crunching...

        $567 a month!

        Yup, $567 a month from one single HUB!


        You've spent no money - no domain name, no software tools, no nothing!


        Sure thing, it would be faster to use a couple of software tools in pursuit of top place in Google, but its not entirely necessary. Use a few of the techniques I discussed already and you'll be onto a good thing. Just leave out the software tools is all. Takes longer, more graft, but its very much achievable!


        You can do this with Squidoo lens too. Not long ago - 2 years - Google LOVED Squidoo lens and they were really easy to rank high with not much work at all. Then suddenly, Squidoo's went through what is termed as a "Google Slap", and it was a hard slap too. All sorts of things went awry with Squidoo lens. Lens masters and mistresses were losing all their lens
        over night (even the PotPieGirl lost her Squidoo account! Albeit briefly), or Google was simply re-ranking those lens way further down than they had been previously.

        Check now though. Check on the net. Do a few Google searches. What do you see? I know what I'm seeing! And its Squids leaping up all over. Thus, don't you think that Google is back in love? I sense that Google and Squidoo are partying together again, after so many months of squabble and disagreement. They've patched up their differences and they are partying once more together. Its nice to see, it really is.

        Squids - free! Same setup as Hubs I think - you have to share some of the income generated on the Squid with Squid. However, don't forget that you can also use Squidoo lens to get high quality backlinks to another site that you have. If you wanna do that in future, then the Squid is nicely placed for you to do so.

        Getting my point here?


        Making seriously good income on the net need not mean you have to spend a lot (or anything) of your hard-earned.


        Ya, ya, I know this all sounds easy peeeezy lemon squeezy. I guess you may be saying...

        "ah, its ok for Joseph, he knows how to do all this, he's been doing it for a while, he knows". I do know, that's why I'm telling you now how to do it, so you can do it just like I could be doing it, if I targeted Squids and Hubs. Right now my hands are too full. I simply don't have the time. However, I do like the idea very much, so I may do exactly as I preach in future
        and set up some more Hubs and Squids precisely for this purpose.


        Something else - when is Christmas?

        ..... just over 7 months away.

        When do Christmas sales begin?

        ..... in the main, from the start of November... 6 months from now.

        Seems far off, right? Its not actually. That time passes so fast you don't know where you are sometimes!

        Do you know that Amazon.com sales more than quadruple at Christmas time? (It may be more, I don't know the exact stats).

        For me, I set up a few sites, and ranked a few of 'em for last Christmas 2009 - I think I had maybe 3 in top place in Goog, a few others nicely placed in top 10.

        I made the same income within November and December that I'd make the whole of the other 10 months put together!!

        And do you know, hubs and squids are the perfect set up for Christmas time purchases!! AdSense! Or eBay! Or Amazon! With AdSense you don't have to do anything, just enter your AdSense account details in your Squid or Hub account. With Amazon and eBay, do the same as for AdSense and then add one of the specialist modules for books, products, whatever... Its a sinch, it really is!


        Enough chat from me for now - I got work to do. Remember, I'm a lazy work-a-holic!


        Till next time!

        Best wishes to you!

        Joseph
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        • Profile picture of the author JosephA
          Morning/evening,

          I just wanted to point something out in case you have not quite seen things from this point of view. Of course - many of you will, so please forgive me if I'm going over something you are familiar with.

          You know full well that I had a bit of a blast at Hubpages with regards their use for SEO'ing other websites - attaining a do-follow backlink from the Hub.

          You also know that I said that Hubs on their own are to be thoroughly admired indeed for what you can do with them over-all as a standalone website.

          Sure thing, I think for AdSense, Amazon and eBay, they take a cut of 40% of your profits because you are using their free platform to display your work. I think its 40%, but do correct me on this if otherwise.

          Well, that leaves 60% for you to pocket at your leisure.

          Now let's envisage a scenario (very losely). Let's imagine you find a nice very hot keyword that's getting some 30k exact global searches a month. Let's also imagine that for that keyword Goog AdSense are offering up to pay something in the region of $1.50 per click. And I do mean they are going to PAY you that to you.


          Okay then, let's do some figures here shall we...

          * Goog pays out $1.50 a click.

          * Hub takes 40% of that as their cut, which leaves you with 90 cents.


          Now let's imagine that you can indeed get the top spot with this hub. The search vol is nicely high for sure and its going to be tough going no doubt. But let's see the benefits here of using a Hub...

          1. Its strong already! You got automatic juice as soon as you begin, thus ranking it some place in top 30 is not going to be too much of an ordeal, possibly even with little to no backlinking.

          2. You can smack it with all sorts of backlinks and you can smack it with 100 backlinks a day or however many and chances are that it will happily soak up this abuse, very much unlike our delicate new website, which would fade away rather rapidly with that sort of backlinking strategy. Our own private domain has to be treated as we would a baby - softly does it!

          3. You can pick out a copy-righted domain name and not be concerned about infringement. This is NOT the case with your own private domain. You could be told to take the site off the net if you infringe copyright. You may even be sued for infringement. I don't know of a case where that's happened but it will for sure. Its only a matter of time!

          For example, let's presume I want to go for a hot product and thus a hot domain name...
          sonylaptops.com

          Of course that's not available but if it were, do you think that Sony is going to sit back and let me use that name? Ah, I doubt it! But for a Hub, no worries! And, chances are reasonable that this domain name is going to be available too under the Hub name anyhow.

          Okay, not so much Sony, but let's say the name of some other common product names.

          The domain name may be "watered down" a bit due to it being something like this...

          http://hubpages/domain name of choice... The domain name will show like this one here in hyper-text...

          NIGHT LIGHTS FOR THE KIDS, NIGHT LIGHTS FOR THE PARENTS


          Ya, that's one of my hubs. I have a domain for the same product sitting kinda nicely in Google for my chosen keywords right now - there is no AdSense on it (I hope) so I'll give you the details here so you can check it out and you know I'm not all hot air ...


          "Twilight Turtle" (totally unrelated to Twilight Saga - this is a children's constellation night light).

          My domain is the twilightturtle .net (I can't join that up cos it goes to hyper link text when I post it up).

          Is it 5th, 4th? Whatever, it should be ranked some place in top 10 at the least.

          It gets just over 18k global exact searches a month according to Google. At Christmas expect that to at least double!


          But hey, do you think I'm going to let it sit "nicely" when its coming up to Christmas?? Nope - I'm gonna get the TOP SPOT!!! Don't believe me? Pop back in November and check the same keywords...


          More about the massive potential of Christmas sales and how YOU can reap rewards lower down on this post...



          Anyhow, back to what I was saying re picking a Hub domain name...

          But you are still getting the keyword in the domain name. And I suspect that Goog is very happy about that!

          Further, if you do fairly regular Goog searches, how often do you see a Hub someplace in the top 30 rankings (if you go down that far)? Quite a lot!


          Now let's imagine that the guy or girl who produced that hub had a good idea about how to attain a few really good quality backlinks to that hub. Do you think that this hub would still be sitting in 30th? I seriously doubt it! Its a sinch to get that hub running up the rankings faster than you can say the proverbial "Jack Daniels", it really is!

          But the poor old hubmaster (or hubmistress) simply has no idea how to go about the business.

          You do!


          Let's get back to the stats - the income potential for this hub...

          You/we get 90 cents per click - in our pocket, after expenses.

          The search volume per month (let's just take the global for this example) is indeed 30k EXACT.

          Let's imagine we can get the top spot in Goog here.

          Let's take a figure that is commonly bandied about as being the approx amount of people who are doing a search to visit the top ranked site for that search... the site that is ranked at number 1...

          42%

          Let us take a click through rate of... 5%, which seems fairly average (its obviously possible to ramp this up on a private domain - and ramp it up a whole lot too!).


          Figure crunching...

          $567 a month!

          Yup, $567 a month from one single HUB!


          You've spent no money - no domain name, no software tools, no nothing!


          Sure thing, it would be faster to use a couple of software tools in pursuit of top place in Google, but its not entirely necessary. Use a few of the techniques I discussed already and you'll be onto a good thing. Just leave out the software tools is all. Takes longer, more graft, but its very much achievable!


          You can do this with Squidoo lens too. Not long ago - 2 years - Google LOVED Squidoo lens and they were really easy to rank high with not much work at all. Then suddenly, Squidoo's went through what is termed as a "Google Slap", and it was a hard slap too. All sorts of things went awry with Squidoo lens. Lens masters and mistresses were losing all their lens
          over night (even the PotPieGirl lost her Squidoo account! Albeit briefly), or Google was simply re-ranking those lens way further down than they had been previously.

          Check now though. Check on the net. Do a few Google searches. What do you see? I know what I'm seeing! And its Squids leaping up all over. Thus, don't you think that Google is back in love? I sense that Google and Squidoo are partying together again, after so many months of squabble and disagreement. They've patched up their differences and they are partying once more together. Its nice to see, it really is.

          Squids - free! Same setup as Hubs I think - you have to share some of the income generated on the Squid with Squid. However, don't forget that you can also use Squidoo lens to get high quality backlinks to another site that you have. If you wanna do that in future, then the Squid is nicely placed for you to do so.

          Getting my point here?


          Making seriously good income on the net need not mean you have to spend a lot (or anything) of your hard-earned.


          Ya, ya, I know this all sounds easy peeeezy lemon squeezy. I guess you may be saying...

          "ah, its ok for Joseph, he knows how to do all this, he's been doing it for a while, he knows". I do know, that's why I'm telling you now how to do it, so you can do it just like I could be doing it, if I targeted Squids and Hubs. Right now my hands are too full. I simply don't have the time. However, I do like the idea very much, so I may do exactly as I preach in future
          and set up some more Hubs and Squids precisely for this purpose.


          Something else - when is Christmas?

          ..... just over 7 months away.

          When do Christmas sales begin?

          ..... in the main, from the start of November... 6 months from now.

          Seems far off, right? Its not actually. That time passes so fast you don't know where you are sometimes!

          Do you know that Amazon.com sales more than quadruple at Christmas time? (It may be more, I don't know the exact stats).

          For me, I set up a few sites, and ranked a few of 'em for last Christmas 2009 - I think I had maybe 3 in top place in Goog, a few others nicely placed in top 10.

          I made the same income within November and December that I'd make the whole of the other 10 months put together!!

          And do you know, hubs and squids are the perfect set up for Christmas time purchases!! AdSense! Or eBay! Or Amazon! With AdSense you don't have to do anything, just enter your AdSense account details in your Squid or Hub account. With Amazon and eBay, do the same as for AdSense and then add one of the specialist modules for books, products, whatever... Its a sinch, it really is!


          Enough chat from me for now - I got work to do. Remember, I'm a lazy work-a-holic!


          Till next time!

          Best wishes to you!

          Joseph
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          • Profile picture of the author JosephA
            Just a quick update here - I don't want to spend too much time writing another great long post, nor to bore you either

            Update on what I was talking about yesterday and related to today's post too - the last post I made re Squids.

            I just checked that archery-related product site I was telling you about yesterday. It seems to have nudged up a place to 3rd, with the ezinearticle following along nicely - 4th (its odd how these "things" tend to glue together - seemingly due to a common hyper-text link between them).

            Again, this is what I'm seeing in Scroogle, thus results are going to be a little different elsewhere and with other software, search engine server locations etc. But, my point really is that this is the first time I've seen this page showing in 3rd and I can only but suspect it has something to do with the Squidoo lens I put up for a backlink just a few days ago - 13 days now.

            Its ranking for other keywords too, but this is my main target due to the search volume, and it is a decent buyer keyword phrase, so I'm kinda happy about that too.

            Actually, I should discuss "buyer" keywords because, if you get this wrong when studying potential keywords, it matters not where you rank in the search engines, you will make little to no sales! And that includes AdSense.

            I'll make a note of this and come back to you in due course. I've made a ton of mistakes regards "buyer" keywords, so you can call me something of a pro now due to falling flat on my face a hundred times and more when assessing for a market to target!

            I only started to get it right when reading something I purchased from Chris Rempel - the Lazy Marketer, on a flight back to the UK from my current home of Malaysia. Thanks Chris - I owe you one!


            Back to the archery-related site...

            I see the Squidoo lens backlink is now showing in the Yahoo link checker - Yahoo Site Explorer. It has no PR but then its new, and there are no backlinks to that lens.

            Its easy to make presumptions here about the strength that the lens is giving to my page ranking. There is no way to determine for sure, and don't forget I have that PR4 ezinearticle pointing directly to my site!

            However, apart from the Squidoo lens, I have not touched this site with regards backlinks or anything for weeks and it has been languishing between 5 and 11 for a while. I put the Squid up and voila! Its very nicely popped up at or very near the top!

            Remember, this is a 15k a month search term I'm ranking well for, and it took me around 4 hours of work to do so, from very start to very finish!

            And yes, you can do this too - trust me!!



            Another point - very briefly. If you've not seen my site - Twilight posters (Twilight Posters for the Discerning Twilight Fan!) today, then go check it out now! Its looking oh-so gorgeous!

            I'll talk a bit more about this in the coming post a little later on today. I'm sure you agree the young lady designer has made a lovely job of it, to say the very least!


            (Feedback required please - does the site look better as it is, or with the recent posts down the right side as it was previously? Thanks for any thoughts - all welcome!)


            Chat soon!

            J
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  • Profile picture of the author tamtu
    I thought the header panel would blend well with rest of the page if it is also a little rounded at the edge as the main panel, just my thought needn't take it up.
    The best part is your tip is real gold thanks a lot.
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    • Profile picture of the author JosephA
      Hi Tamtu, thanks for you comments! I went with the designer's choice and because she's done such a lovely job with no money exchanging hands (I provided a link to her site form the Twilight Poster site in the footer there) I'm inclined not to pester her to tweak things

      By the way, I like the site you have linked in your sig. Its very pretty and simple. Very cute!

      Take care!
      Regards
      J
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  • Profile picture of the author enwereuzo
    Hi Joseph,
    I an building a new blog on software, my question to you is this; you know software niche is a highly competitve niche.What is the best approach do you advise me to follow. Secondly how many unique articles and reviews can i write in a day to make upto $500 per day in adsense alone
    What do i do in respect of seo.
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    • Profile picture of the author JosephA
      Hi Enwereuzo, thanks for your query!

      Software - a broad niche for sure. Is there a specific area that you are interested in and have knowledge about? If so you can research this niche to find a sub-niche where the search volumes are lower but the amount of comp is also much lower.

      Having said that, I spoke with a gentleman the other day who was also targetting an immensely competitive niche. When it came down to it, even the low comp niches were fairly much dominated by high PR sites and mature domains. Very tough!

      However, he eventually decided that he would take a long term approach and target some of those competitive keywords (not much choice) simply because the end reward would be very much worth it.

      He'd made his goal, which is very much a large part of what SEO is actually about. Setting short term and long term goals and being realistic about what you can and cannot achieve within the time frame and with your current "assets" (software etc.), so to speak.

      Do take into account that it is very easy to become disillusioned unless you assess and reassess your goals. I'm no psychologist so perhaps enough of this semi-psycho talk from me. I know how it feels to be THOROUGHLY disillusioned regarding the game of SEO however, and its no pleasant experience that's for sure!

      So therefore, it depends on many factors which only you can decide. You can of course persevere and go for a tight niche with fewer comp and thus reap faster rewards with the sacrifice of lesser returns, or you could go long term for a tougher niche area but with richer pickings at the sacrifice of it not coming any time soon.

      And this latter option also is dependent on your own confidence in being able to rank for those tough keywords too.

      I suggest to you if you use some of the techniques I have discussed, in time (depending on your software, your work ethic, your motivation etc.) you will indeed be able to rank for some of the tougher keywords if you so desire it. No guarantee can be made from me about that until I could see what you were actually up against.

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      With regards your second question - that's too tough a call to make with any possibility of being any where near accurate.

      Due to a high number of software-related keywords being high value for click-thrus, I do suspect you would not have too much problem attaining this sort of income, providing your site/s are ranking well for what will no doubt be a tough niche (or tough niches) to crack. Again, it would be imprudent of me to provide a definitive answer here.

      Its all possible, it really is, but I suspect you will have to plan longer term for this to come about. If you are comfortable with that then you already have a headstart. Mindset is very important!

      I could go on and on Enwereuzo but I hope you get the gist of this scenario. Its not possible to give you any definite answers as there are so many variables here to consider.

      Good luck and kind regards!

      Joseph
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      • Profile picture of the author JosephA
        What have I been up to today?

        First off, I managed to get a banner designer for the Twilight Poster website. If you've not taken a look yet then please do so, by all means. Personally I think it looks great!

        Although I can't link to the designer's specific WF ad, I can of course mention name and business website, so here goes...

        FlipDiva

        www.BlogsbyFlipDiva.com


        I shall needless to say be using FlipDiva again, probably fairly often too, and I obviously endorse her design skills wholeheartedly!

        Thanks again FlipDiva!


        That's my advertising speel done and dusted, so what else today?

        I fiddled around with the site and changed the colour/color to match the theme a little better. I also added content to all the posts thereby avoiding any footprint for Google to sniff out. That would be a very basic mistake to make, it really would! Call yourself an SEO'er Joseph?

        I then turned my attention to writing a further article for UAW submission. This one was about Halloween - its origins. Interesting! The line of thought is it is and old Celtic tradition/belief, thus its origins are probably in either Ireland or Scotland. And being Scots myself, that's an interesting fact for me to mull over. I have a real passion for history!

        One problem associated with product-related sites is that its very possible to struggle in coming up with fresh content.

        Now this in actual fact, is not necessarily a problem. Let me tell you exactly why!

        Those article directories that I have used - the ones I have previously listed with exception to iSnare.com and ArticleRich.com simply because I'm not yet sure about them, well they have a feature that you can take advantage of should the desire or even need arise.

        What's that then?

        You can if you so wish, submit articles that are entirely unrelated to the destination of your links - the links in the article bio boxes. Does that make sense? Let me say it a slightly different way.

        You can if you find it tough to come up with content for your niche, write articles that are totally unrelated to that niche but still pop in a bio box that has links specific to your chosen niche.

        Thus, let's say your niche is baseball bats - MacGregor (ya, check out that niche (baseball bats) - when I last checked it many months ago it had some hot micro niches which were very do-able! I seem to remember the AdSense stats were good too). And let's say you don't really have much of a passion for baseball. What do you do here? Churn out articles re baseball bats?

        How laborious! How tedious! If you don't have a passion for baseball then chances are this would indeed be a troublesome task. So, no, you don't actually. You write about a subject - a niche that you love. Horses, games, handbags, soccer (football as we call it), jewelry/jewellery. You get the idea...

        You then take your original niche which is baseball bats or MacGregor baseball bats for a nice sub-niche and you build up a few different bio boxes for those.

        You would then submit your articles and within a few days have them all very happily published, thank you!

        See?

        There is absolutely no problem with this! Even ezinearticles.com who is known to be the biggest stickler for its quality articles and demand for unique content and all the other stipulations it sets, even ezinearticles.com is happy with this set-up!

        So there you go, no more writing of thoroughly tedious articles if you want to submit to a variety of quality article directories!

        However, UAW for example. Try that with them and you get a big ol' nope! No way!

        Its no problem however cos you already have your "anchors" set up and written about a subject matter you love. So of course you either spin the original articles you've already written (which I thoroughly suggest you do, providing you put good effort into ensuring that the syntax is sensible throughout the article). Or you write out some more fresh content for submission to the likes of Unique Article Wizard or some other proprietary article submission software of your choice.


        Thus, writing articles for backlinking to your chosen niche need not be such a laborious task after all.


        So there you go, a nice little tip to help ease the way to SEO glories and hopefully in the process improving your over-all income too!


        Later on, as I mentioned, I will discuss this issues re "buyers keywords". I know many of you who are reading along are well versed in the pursuit of buyers keywords, but I also realize that many of you most probably struggle with this, as I have done myself many a time!

        And as I said, if you get this wrong it can mean the difference between real success or utter failure in your endeavors. So its vitally important to get this right as soon as you can!


        Have a great day/evening!

        Regards!

        Joseph
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        • Profile picture of the author Aussie_Al
          Great Thread - I have been trying to read the whole thing through out the day

          Yeah the logo/header looks great!

          Keep up the great work Joseph
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          • Profile picture of the author JosephA
            Hi Aussie_Al, thanks for the feedback - much appreciated!

            Yes, I love the header too! I tried making my own some time ago - got the free GIMP software, which is a fantastic product, but geez - for someone like me it would take me months to fathom it! I even purchased videos to go along with it but...

            I hear that Artisteer is a fantastic free product to use for banner/header grafics. I did try that out too a while back, but let's face it - and its something that very many internet marketers struggle with - we cannot be good at everything! Its real tough being an all-rounder when it comes to making money online.

            Please, let me know your own thoughts and experiences on this point as I know it will hit home with very many of you!

            Which makes me think about discussing something else in future - the subject of outsourcing. A lot of forum chat about outsourcing and quite a few glossy products around on the subject too, that cost a pretty penny and will leave you with little money left to pay for the actual outsourcing.

            I believe there is one thing above all else that we have to keep in mind regards to outsourcing which will go quite a long way towards really increasing profits, as opposed to leaving your bank account totally dry and your ego in shatters (like mine was on both counts)!

            More on that to come...

            Great to have you here Al and hope you are really enjoying the chats we are having!

            Regards
            Joseph



            PS. this is for all those who are watching along but not making their own points - please do contribute to the thread, please, please... I'm not sure if they moderate this forum as they used to do and as many other forums do - but it still might be the case that if the thread starter is making most of the comments then he/she could be accused of bumping their own thread and thus they will be excluded from commenting. And that would be no good whatsoever! I should of course check this with the mods and indeed I will now, but its also a "ploy" to get lots of chat and lots of ideas from you so we can really have a lot of fun on here! So please, do contribute to the thread - your thoughts, your opinions and your contributions are very valueable to me (as I'm sure they are to everyone else too), they really are!! Hence the reason I am always very thankful for each comment that you guys and girls are making!
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            • Profile picture of the author k0brik
              I did a quick search in google.com and scroogle for twilight poster and your site is on the 2nd page, 12th and 13th position.
              Nicely done.

              I'm curious to see how it will dance in the next days.
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              • Profile picture of the author JosephA
                Hi again K0brik, thanks for checking that out and feeding back!

                Yes seems that its about 13th here too - much of the time with not much in the way of dancing for the past 30 hours or so.

                Its actually very tricky - I'm limited with time thus the urge is to shoot off lots of backlinks asap! However, if I do that then I will inevitably pay the penalty and it could be that the site/page only returns after the 40 days are done and dusted.

                So its a case of kid gloves with the links but at the same time just pushing that much harder than I would normally. Such a delicate operation it really is! Fun to be doing all the same!

                Regards and thanks again for feeding back!

                J
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            • Profile picture of the author Writingman1421
              So far, I am very impressed. I've been on a bit of a hiatus and haven't been working nearly as much as I should. This is mainly because its time for me to start on a new niche and I always wind up with a mental block when it comes to research, competition, and monetizing. This "journey" that you are sharing with all of us, however, has helped me break through my mental block and start working again, which i sincerely thank you for.

              I am going to keep following along and even start copying your techniques, as they appear to be producing results.

              Now on to a few questions...

              1. Competition wise, how do you evaluate whether the keyword is worth going for? By that, I mean what is your "defining factor" for determining if keyword is a GO or a big NO. Is it backlinks?

              This is one of those blocks I have. Im confident on how to make money off of a niche and get traffic, but I often wind up picking the wrong keyword (high comp. not enough searches, etc.) and then wasting my time. I assume the keyword is doable even with a high competition (my ego mainly) and then I just fail miserably because it was next to impossible to get in the first place. I just seem to have trouble evaluating those top 10 successfully. I need to know what constitutes a "STAY AWAY" keyword and a "GO FOR IT BABY" keyword

              2. In regards to Unique Article Wizard, I often find that the amount of sites the UAW submits to is quite low. I did some health articles, picked the general health topic, submitted them, and then the end result was about 300 submissions total. To me, this is a bit low for what I am spending per month, especially when the before submission estimate was in the 900-1000 site range. Combine that with the fact that I wrote unique articles and (perhaps) spun each of them individually and I feel like a total baffoon.

              I know this is probably a question for UAW support, but I just wanted to get your thoughts about it. I like the idea about using UAW to build backlinks to anchor articles and web 2.0 properties, seems like a solid idea.

              3. Spinning. I'm a bit confused -- dumbfounded is more the word tbh -- when you said 250, and 500, spun articles at a 50% uniqueness rating. That blows my F'in mind!

              My question is, how many versions of the article do you write? And then, do you rewrite each sentence numerous times within each of those unique articles? I.E. You write 5 articles on the same topic. You then rewrite every sentence in each of those 5 articles 5 or more times. How long does it take you to do this spinning? Thats a big pet peeve of mine as well, cause I somehow convince myself im only writing one article for the day and wasting my time -- even though thats not really the case.

              Once you have these spun articles -- 200+ versions -- what in the world do you do with them all? I mean besides from submitting them your anchor article directors? Do you just put the variations into UAW? OR, are you doing something else with them?

              4. iSnare. I tend to use paid submissions for my articles as they are sent out faster. That said, do you also do paid submissions or do you stick with free submissions? You may have stated this (I can't recall), but there is no spinning option over at iSnare, so are you comfortable with just mass submitting the article and have it pointing back to your main site? OR, do you point it back to an "anchor" article instead?

              Alright, I hope I was thorough enough with my questions. I wish you the best of luck and will be back often to check on your progress.

              - Sean
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        • Profile picture of the author Terri Tutten
          Thanks for the mention, Joseph!

          I've been reading through your entire thread, and now I'm busy changing up some of the promotion I've been doing for my own site - so this is a double thanks! :p

          Terri
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          • Profile picture of the author inter123
            Hey Joe

            Will you be doing any other types of backlinking other then article marketing and web2.0 ?
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          • Profile picture of the author JosephA
            Hey everyone - its the FLIPDIVA!

            Hi Terri, many thanks for stopping by and reading some of the posts. I know your schedule is packed so its nice you can take a bit of time and come on over here.

            I've been getting some feedback - on the thread here as you see and on my website re the Twilight site banner - "Fantastic"! Each time I look at it I'm enthralled! Got a link to your own site in the footer of TwilightPosterz incase you did not see.


            Hey, perhaps we can JointVenture in something - I know you offer up UAW submissions as part of your service range.

            You take care Terri and hope business continues to thrive!

            Regards Joseph

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            Hi Inter, nice to see you on here again!

            The answer to your question is no. Simple as that. I never found the need simply because of the style and format of my sites and the way I work - suits me well.

            There is another tool I use that it very neat and I will be discussing that soon - its re social bookmarking and its FREE. But this is not something I put a lot of emphasis on because I'm concerned that the value of these sort of links is not quite the quality it once was.

            I may be wrong though, so if anyone would care to argue otherwise, let me stand corrected. And further, its fairly easy to go overboard with this system and that would be highly detrimental to my current needs.


            I do intend to use social media much more in future. I remember a few weeks back reading a post by Shoestring on copyblogger.com about John Chow and how he went totally against Google and totally against SEO principles. Goog banned his blog but there was so much demand for it due to the social media sites in particular, that Goog had to accept the site or else they would be infringing their own policies - provide the content that the PEOPLE want and not what Goog dictates.

            The site now ranks at the very top of the rankings for many different and highly competitive keywords! What does this tell you??

            I gotta say Inter, I LOVE that so much that in many ways I can't help but want to embrace it with all my creative energies. Thus I will be edging away from PURE SEO practices and edging towards sheer popularity - creating my own sites in future for PEOPLE and not for Google!!!

            Sorry Goog but you do manage to p... me off at times with your oh-so-mighty principles!

            So there you go - that's where I'm at right now. Its fun, its exciting and I want to spread the word.

            Take care!

            J
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            • Profile picture of the author JosephA
              Oh and Inter, please don't forget that although I am an insanely hard worker, I'm also lazy (if that should make any sense), thus if I can cut down on the variety of things I have to keep account of then that indeed is to my utter benefit!

              Ask me to get out of bed very early each morning when I have only 4 different SEO tasks to do and I will be up and at it pronto! Ask me to get up out of bed early each morning when I have 20 different tasks to accomplish and I would sooner stay in bed!

              Hands up all those who feel the same way?


              Regards!
              J

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              Hi WritingMan, thanks for coming by and for your kind words and also for your questions!

              I'll have to get back to you on those if I may. I wanna finish something first and then I'll be straight back with you to answer as best I can!

              Thanks again...
              J
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              • Profile picture of the author AllanCollins
                Hi Joseph,

                Thanks for this very inspirational thread.
                From the looks of things, I've got your site on page one of Google for "twilight posters" (without quotes, of course) and #15 on Scroogle.

                Have you noticed a jump in organic traffic yet?

                I'm interested to see how you are going to monetize it. Would you share your earning results? I'm just really curious... :-)

                Please keep up the good work, I will continue to watch this thread for more inspiration. Thanks again.
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              • Profile picture of the author JosephA
                Can I just make mention here please that tonight I have been booked up! My girlfriend has been complaining somewhat bitterly that I'm always glued to my work. Thus she has "recommended" I take Friday night off and spend quality time with her - one-to-one for some romantic moments, good food, couple beers etc. You all know what I mean .

                Should I not do as she has asked I suspect I will be hung, drawn and then quartered, after which my head will be stuck on a spike a la William Wallace (Braveheart) style, God rest his sole!

                So do forgive me in the event I am not quite as swift in returning comments on the thread, thanks for your understanding!



                Sean, thanks again for following along and for giving me some credit in helping you overcome the block. Even the very best writers suffer this, so why not us SEO'ers? JK Rowlings used to live only a few miles from where I did in Edinburgh, Scotland - I bet she suffered block at times too! I think its just a way of your mind telling you to slow down so that it can recuperate its creative juices.



                In answer to your questions...


                1. Keyword a GO or a big N-O?

                A massive stumbling block for most of us! As I mentioned way back at the beginning I throw out all the stuff that most SEO'ers learn at or near the beginning of their online pursuit of glory.

                I will check my Micro Niche Finder keyword tool and then double check with the free Goog Keyword Tool to retrieve the basic info - search volumes (exact) and in MNF I can check if the exact domain name is available. Hmmm... that's about it as far as those keyword tools are concerned.

                Of course, if I want to go for sales I gotta be creative enough to come up with some form of buyer (ish) type of keyword. Post on that later. In this case I put myself in the place of a potential buyer or someone who is looking for a service. If it hits home then its worth further research.

                Then, its a case of checking out my comp in Google (I don't bother with Yahoo or Bing for reasons already given). I mentioned all this above too but its simply about the backlinks of those sites in top 10, the domain age, the PR of course, Alexa ranking... But even if the sites are all PR3 and over I still may well go for it. I am not intimidated too much by that alone. This also depends however upon if its time well spent - is my time worth investing in pursuit of this particular keyword phrase? Obviously if I'm monetizing with AdSense on my site and they are offering 20 cents a click... you know what I mean Sean...

                There is a formula that Courtney Tuttle and Mark Butler (2 of the very top SEO'ers around!) came up with that I use loosely for determination of a profitable keyword. I think the Market Samurai does a similar job - cool bit of kit that is, although I don't personally use it.

                Let me see if I can remember cos its been a while since I actually used the precise method...


                search vol (exact) x 0.4 (approx. 40% of the search traffic will go for the top ranked site) x adsense cost per click given in the Google keyword tool x 0.25 (this is approx. how much Google actually pay you of the shown click value provided by the GK tool) x 0.05 (this is the click through rate on the average adsense site)


                Now according to Mark and Court, they would target a keyword phrase that will offer them $50 US and above per month, once they have assessed the top 10 ranking sites in Google to see it the keyword is do-able.

                Its a very neat algorithm/equation that is relatively accurate given that you can indeed attain the top spot in the Goog ranks...

                Hope that covers your question and if I missed anything or something not clear pls let me know.



                2. Yes using UAW or similar software for building backlinks to web 2's and solid articles is a really healthy technique to use. I take your point Sean regards the fact you do not get as many submissions as you were "promised". What I do if I have only around 300 or so submissions is that I will go back into UAW and fiddle with my keyword choice a bit, then I will fiddle with the categories a bit, where possible, and often it is possible. I then re-submit and viola! Often times I'll get a further pile of submissions, thus perhaps 500 - 700 over the two submissions. Does not always work out this way but you MUST try to get the best out of this or its leaving your money on the proverbial table, it really is!



                3. Spinning - I write one version of a single article and then spin it to provide me 250 uniques - generally in the range of around 50%, which will often be sufficient for even ezinearticle.com unless I sniped an article from their database. If that's the case then I would have to up that unique level to 60% and perhaps just over.

                Spinning - I am lazy! I don't mix this and mix that. I simply go through a quality article that I have located on ezinearticles.com, on Scribd.com - any place as long as its good quality. I will re-write with synonyms up to around 50% uniqueness, taking time as I do this to ensure its gonna be almost perfect. I would then go through each article again just before any submissions to any directory, site, blog whatever, to ensure it reads perfectly.

                And that's it. Not too taxing at all. If its too taxing I'll sooner watch TV (and moan about my lack of progress while doing so )!

                If you are able to make 250 quality article from one re-write even though it takes you 2 hours to do so, this is indeed incredible investment of one's time Sean! So you should indeed forgo the thought that you are not being productive enough.

                Once I have all these articles I have content sitting waiting to use. It takes a teeny bit of my hard drive, its really good quality, its unique and its thoroughly useable for almost anything I can think of regards the attainment of backlinks. Well okay, not quite anything, but you get my point I'm sure.

                I use articles for my 100+ word snippets - a lot of the time! If I have a campaign going where the keyword is tough, I will need this amount of fresh content and more besides.

                Nothing is going to waste, my dear friend! I LOATHE with a vengence wasting any precious time - its just the way I'm built. Hence I can't hold down a simple JOB haha!



                4. iSnare - I only started using them for this particular campaign cos I'm lazy haha! How many times have I said that - but its so true. If I can't see a good reason for doing something then I can't motivate myself to do it. And if I do manage to motivate myself it will not last long. iSnare demand 500+ word articles and that's simply too much for me, unless I am writing for my clients that is. I have far more motivation in writing for clients than I do for myself, which is really very odd because I am such a free spirit!

                And to be honest Sean, no, I would not be comfortable with mass submission of any of my articles unless they are at least relatively unique in content (the stats would depend upon what I was using it for but I tend to go for 45% and above) and I have checked each one over thoroughly for any form of mistakes - at which time I add a bit here and there so most of my articles are actually around 50% unique and sometimes quite a bit more.

                You see, I've done enough stuff in my time whereby I'm just churning out over and over - its tedious, its not really rewarding in itself, and I'm a bit fed up of it.

                That old argument that we all hear about when we are new to internet marketing - for me - that rings true more and more as the days and weeks pass. And that is - if you are not passionate about a subject don't go anyplace near it!

                Many IM'ers totally disagree but then, are they in this game purely for the money and thus are simply mechanical in their practices and principles?

                I've had enough of that now. I am from now on going to be writing for PEOPLE and not for the spiders. I will be writing about what I love and will not be touching anything that simply does not turn me on. This way, its guaranteed to be received with open arms and smiling faces, and at the same time, its going to make some hearts pump faster than they were before they saw my work!



                Always got something to say, I know. I have really strong feelings about some things and I can't just sit back and let things happen without getting a tad hot under the collar. Its purely because my passion for this stuff cannot be locked away - its gotta come out one way or the other, and thus the internet really does suit me only too well because its a fantastic way to vent one's passions, frustrations, annoyance, love... you name it!



                I hope this answers your concerns and questions adequately. Let me know if you have any other things on your mind and We'll talk them through. I'd be only too happy to see you surge ahead with your internet work! Do keep in touch and let me know how things are progressing!

                Cheers
                J
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                • Profile picture of the author JosephA
                  Hi Allan, thanks for coming along and commenting - much appreciated indeed!

                  Good to know - you got me page one on Goog and you are in Colorado. I learned from a lady last night (comment on my blog at SEO Tips - link in my sig below) that she sees my site in 4th on Google, which is obvioulsy very encouraging as this would mean I had fulfilled my original goal with weeks to spare!!

                  Nevertheless, I'll persevere with my current tactics and see what happens over the coming days. Wouldn't mind that much covetted top spot, actually!


                  As for organic traffic, I've simply been so busy with other things that I've not taken the time to look sorry to say. I get quite a bit from the WF thread - 90 hits from here alone a couple days back.

                  The site is actually monetized Allan - eBay - you can click on the image at the top of any post/page and be directed to eBay, or you can click on the "click here now" (or whatever it says) hyper-text.

                  Unfortunately I've recently been hit by an eBay slap and I'm too busy to try and alter that right now. Too busy to re-monetize my sites too. Therefore, come the end of the Challenge, I may be begging for work as my income has taken quite a hit due to this decision made by eBay. Thanks eBay!

                  Anyone want a pro SEO'er to consult for them??


                  Thus, to provide details of income from the site as it currently stands would merely provide erroneous data. However, I may change it to Amazon when I get a chance and can thus report back some stats when that happens.

                  Take care and thanks again!

                  Regards
                  Jo
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                      Hi Sheena, I don't use iSnare for article submission but I just checked out the prices page and it would appear that if you want to submit a few articles a month then iSnare is a cheaper option than is UAW.

                      However should you wish to publish rather more then iSnare comes with a hefty price tag.

                      See here please...
                      Article Distribution Service - Isnare.com Free Reprint Articles


                      I have not studied that page closely but it appears to me to be an expensive option if you really want to ramp up your SEO efforts.

                      Hope that helps Sheena!

                      Regards
                      J
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                      • Profile picture of the author tamtu
                        Thanks Joseph for clarifying, its only because isnare has a cheaper option I asked about it.
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                        • Profile picture of the author JosephA
                          Pleasure Sheena!

                          Yes, I imagine if you want to take the slower and longer term approach then iSnare is certainly a highly credible option and alternative to the rather costly UAW at $67 a month!


                          On another note, I'll be going off fairly soon for the night - back tomorrow morning so keep the questions and the feedback coming please!!

                          I had intended on writing up a post on buyer keywords but I'm afraid that will have to wait until - most probably tomorrow. Sorry about that!

                          Have a lovely day everyone and I'll chat with you tomorrow (Malaysia is GMT +7).

                          Best wishes with your SEO!

                          Jo
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  • Profile picture of the author tamtu
    Hi Joseph,
    Is there any difference in distribution of articles through UAW from distribution through isnare, don't they do the same job or is there something I am missing about the concept.

    Thanks again!
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      Joesph this is a great thread, normally I am a "lurker" but I had to come up long enough to say thanks. I have to admit though you lost me thoroughly on the article backlinking strategy.
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  • Profile picture of the author 1mauigirl
    Mahalo nui loa (heartfelt thanks) for this thread that can show those who are stuck in information overload which actions to take when.

    As of right now I see the 'z' site sitting a #6 on Google 1st page. Look out number one 'cause you might just scoot them over by the end of your challenge!

    Hats off to you for making sites for people and not just spiders! It does work as you know, that writing for people is the way to go!

    My first auto-pilot site was put up 6 years ago written only for those who sought the study guide information within ... well, it does have the usual domain, title, alt tag optimization because that is how we were trained back then. But. it is a straight html site without even W3 documentation stuff and it still sits for 6 years on Page 1, position 1 and other 1st page positions (last look was 7 of the top 10) for all its keyword search terms.

    Many people ask me how can it be that I have sites put up so long ago that bring automatic income every month without my even touching them, linking to them or even looking at them (then I might be tempted to waste time making them look better haha).

    You are telling them how to do it in today's world wide web. I'll be pointing them to this thread. Hats Off 2 U!

    Oh and I'm not writing here to call attention to myself or my accomplishments in this field. You can tell by my longevity on this forum and lack of prolific posting that is not my intention.

    Having moderated a forum of 300,000 for a 2 year term, I heeded your plea to keep the moderators happy ... Aloha Moderators! Say Aloha to Allen for me!

    Po maika`i (Blessings) ~S~
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    • Profile picture of the author JosephA
      I'm back!

      Haha, not gone for tooo long!

      Great, super and a big thanks to those of you have left comments over the past few hours while I was otherwise entertained.

      I'll be getting back to you shortly and then will go ahead with some more hot info that should be a really nice pointer to (hopefully) quite a few of you reading this thread.

      Further, I would appreciate some thoughts as to "what's next" once the conclusion of the 40 day Challenge has indeed - concluded.

      How can I help to push forward more of YOUR SEO campaigns and IM riches?

      Any and all ideas about this will be kindly received - let's have a chat about it - I'd really like to know what YOU want!


      I'll see you again soon!

      Kind regards
      J
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  • Profile picture of the author Gabriel
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    Hi Joseph

    Great info mate, very generous..

    I'm just curious about your position about directory submission, social bookmarking and blog commenting?

    Thanks

    Cheers

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    • Profile picture of the author JosephA
      Braden, thanks indeed and I hope to see you here over the coming few weeks! Its exciting to see the progress, hope you agree!

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      RWT, nice to see you here and thanks for the postive feedback! Yes, I know all about forum "lurking" but sometimes I gotta come out of the background and add my piece too. Its real good you have done the same!

      What part of the article marketing strategy is not too clear? All of it??

      By all means let me know what you are having issues with and I'll try to re-word it for you RWT.

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      1MauiGirl, thanks indeed for your "heartfelt" thanks! Ya, info overload comes to most of us, right? Me too, for sure!

      So, you got the Twilight Poster"z" site sitting 6th in Goog in Maui - that's cool! Indeed MauiGirl - 'you watch your back numero uno cos I'm coming for you now!!' (is this the point I fall flat on my face hehehe!).

      Sites for people is where I'm heading MauiGirl. I don't wanna be doing the churning out content any more. Actully, has to be said that I am really enjoying writing articles for the Twilight site, even though I would find it tough to write about the Twilight Saga alone. I just wrote one about vampires yesterday - the original vamp - by Bram Stoker. It was crafted way back in 1897, so its even older than me!

      I guess what I'm saying is that for many niche topics you can perhaps find a "slant" to them that fits relatively nicely with your own true interests. Makes this whole thing about writing a mass of quality content so much easier and so much more rewarding - and that is precisely how it should be! I know you agree.

      You been doing this stuff for a long while now! I started back around then too - 2004, with a Corey Rudl (God rest his soul!) product, but sad to say I did not progress to building a site like you did. That came a bit later after purchase of a Jim Edwards DVD set.

      Could you PM me the site name perhaps MauiGirl? I'd love to have a look-see! It is indeed thoroughly admirable to have your sites sitting top 10 for so long and still making money, even though you don't touch them. What would you put that down to? Domain age, PR, length of time visitor spends on your site, something else, everything together?

      Yup, I can see you been on the WF for "donkey's years" but yet your post count is low. Must take a whole lot to get you to post on a thread! Makes me even happier you have done so on this thread, it surely does!

      Yes, please do tell your friends about this MauiGirl! I would certainly appreciate it and I suspect that they would too, providing they need a bit of a booster or whatever it may be.

      The more people that find out about this thread, about my site in my Sig (I best not do more promoting it cos the mods may wrap my fingers - ouch!). The more people I can help then the better for all of us! Tweet, social bookmark, blog about it, chat on other forums - anything and everything is fantastic, thanks so much!

      I'm interested to know the forum you moded too. You obviously have a mass of knowledge - hoping you can communicate a bit more about this please, although I most definitely respect your desire for privacy if you'd prefer that.

      I love the Hawaiian language (not that I know it well at all). I love the sound of the words, the names! Po maika.

      Hope to hear from you again soon MauiGirl and thanks again for contributing to this thread - very much appreciated!

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      Gabriel, thanks a lot for coming by here and contributing!

      Directory submissions? You mean like DMoz and Yahoo Directory? If so, unless I'm working for someone else and they are targeting a VERY tough keyword phrase, then I would not bother. Although, if I really covette a top spot for one of my sites and just need that little something extra, I would then consider it further.

      Social bookmarking - yup, I do a bit, but not so much these days. I kinda use it to "tickle" sites, just to maybe push them that bit more than they otherwise may be pushed. And for SB I utilize a very cool tool that I'll talk about in the coming days. Na, not the likes of BookMarking Demon or BookMark Wiz. This is a FREE and very COOL tool! And the product owner is one of the best! Here's to you CM!

      Blog commenting - again, its something I used to spend time with. Quite a while back I purchased Paul Forcey's Comment Hut (hi Paul!) which was a neat tool for raking through and finding decent quality blogs. There's another one around now - what's it called again... can't remember.

      These sort of tools are great for sifting through spammy "rubbish" and finding the little gems out there. After all, there are so, so many no do-follow blogs now that you can waste so much precious time commenting, if you are indeed commenting for backlinking purposes. I steer clear of it in the main. Having said that, if I do find a good blog that's "up my street" so to speak, then I will absolutely comment - time and again, but it is NOT for purposes of SEO. Its purely cos I love the blog and I love the community spirit (and perhaps, sorry to admit this, I need my ego boosted a little bit, cos its been flagging of late - this SEO stuff can be incredibly solitary work/life!) Hands up all those who know precisely what I'm talking about here!

      Court Tuttle and Mark Buttler (I mention these guys a fair bit) do talk about trying to obtain a backlink from a high ranking site in your niche. But, how many site owners are going to bother doing that - give you a link to your site, particularly if they are ranking top 10 for a tricky keyword phrase?

      I think/know for sure that this methodolgy WILL WORK if there is an incentive for the blog/site owner however. The incentive should perhaps be based on the niche topic in question. A bit like "you scratch my back and I'll be happy to scratch yours". After all, its human nature to share for mutual benefit.

      Actually, that last point is a biggie on and offline too, of course. I'm almost always seeing things and asking "how can WE mutually benefit from this scenario?". However, most people are not thinking that at all. They just see "ME, ME, ME".

      Perhaps then, in our case, its more about trying to get them to see how we can both/all benefit and thus attain super-high-quality backlinks that way.

      What a ramble that was - hope my message is clear however. Thanks again for stopping by and contributing Gabriel!


      Kind regards to all!

      Jo
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  • Profile picture of the author Writingman1421
    Question about the blogblueprint tool....

    You said you take content from your articles as the snippet for blogblueprint. How does that work exactly? You just take any paragraph from your collection of spun articles and submit it with anchor text? Is this how you do all your blog blueprint snippets? Do you ever just write the snippets and spin them from the start rather than take them from the spun articles?

    i'm not sure I understand how this works nor how this is even seen as natural, as the blog your snippet is posted to might be about anything from snapping turtles to termites -- yet you have a 100 word paragraph that talks about twilight posters out of the blue.

    Could you elaborate on how this works a bit more, as I am eager to sign up and get started with it.

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    • Profile picture of the author JosephA
      Hi Sean, Blog Blueprint - yup, I do both. I take some of my already spun articles and use some of the content in there, or I take something else from ezinearticles.com or whereever and spin the daylights out of that to give me around 120 words or so per snippet, of truly fresh content that I can then add to my BB account ready for approval and publishing.

      I've been using Blog Blueprint now for about a month and have NEVER had a single snippet of content rejected. Thus the uniqueness of the snippets must be relatively high - at least to the requirement of the BB editors. And all using The Best Spinner software!

      As for how the BB works - its really a question for their support as I am not savvy on everything they utilize. However, they have numerous blogs and websites on all forms of topics/categories. These blogs/sites are populated with loosely related posts (snippets) that are hopefully picked up by the search engines and indexed over time. Therefore, the snippet text link therein is tracked back to your own site/s thus providing a very nice link, thank you!

      There are a number of other providers offering a similar-type set up so it does work and can work very well too, providing it is used in tandem with a variety of other backlinking processes.

      Take LinkVana as a very good example of a longer term and more established offering that uses the same principles as does the Blog Blueprint. LinkVana however is priced at $147 a month, which is out of reach of many of us SEO'ers. I got a special on that coming up though, so I hope that some folks take advantage of it as its very useful indeed.

      Sorry I can't do the BlogBlueprint as a special - they don't have a specific affiliate program for it, which is an oversight on their part!

      Most of the BB network of blogs/sites have a fair bit of juice because of age, amount of indexed pages, PR and whatever else (again - something to ask their support team if you need more info).

      They've been going through some problems recently due to up and moving to another hosting company, but everything seems to have settled down now and posts are being published every day - 20 per day without fail.

      All in all, my experience with them over the past month and the results I've been witnessing relatively quickly upon a number of my own site's rankings means that the cost of $57 a month is truly value for money!

      No, this method of attaining backlinks is not natural, but then how many techniques that are used by SEO'ers and IM'ers are "natural"? Its becoming a big bee in my bonnet, but I've huffed and puffed about that over the past couple of days, so I best not do so again now. This software suits my requirements for now as it works well, but will I be following this "unnatural" strategy in 6 months from now? Watch this space...

      Hope that makes the use of Blog Blueprint that much clearer Sean. Its a quality product is how I shall finish off here...

      Regards
      Joseph
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      • Profile picture of the author rhodie
        Joseph,

        You are sitting in 15th place when searching from Australia. Well done. I can see you really enjoy writing by the amount of posts here.

        I was just wondering how you monetize your site with Ebay. How does it work, and what sort of return do you get on a $10 poster?

        Thanks once again for providing this great resource of information.

        Edit: Another question. Do you believe this site would do well with Adsense or Adbrite?
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        • Profile picture of the author JosephA
          Hi Rhodie, thanks for coming by and for telling me about the ranking in your part of the world!

          Yes, you are right, if I have a highly receptive and encouraging "audience" (such as on this thread) then I'm very much one for showing my appreciation by writing and writing and writing and... Merely a way of saying THANKS to everyone who contributes a post or 2 or anyone who is following along regardless they choose not to post. I get quite a lot of feedback via email, via my SEO site which is in my sig on my posts here, and via other avenues too - quite a few of the thread followers prefer to remain entirely incognito.


          A word about eBay - they do not accept domain names that may (or may not) be potentially infringing copyright. They have to cover their own back simply because it is so huge. Its fine for me and for millions of other individuals who knock up a few websites - if we receive an email informing us to "REMOVE THE SITE OR ELSE", then so be it. We move on...

          The Twilight Poster site may get away with this for a bit but eBay will no doubt sniff it out, at which point any profit will be gone!

          On the other hand, as far as I know (I have never bothered to check and I have had a lot of Amazon-related product sites) they have no issue with this whatsoever.

          Just keep this in mind Rhodie if you're going down the road of picking your domain names based on product names or company names or any copyrighted name. On the other hand, as mentioned - you can slap up a Hub or a Squid or a WordPress.com blog with the domain name as the product name and that's all fine! You can also use the product name as a sub-domain to a privately owned domain name if you prefer that.


          Ya, returns on a 10 buck poster is/are not great - its well worth mentioning. Amazon use a % criteria for payouts - get above a certain amount of sales each month and your % commission goes up. The highest rate is about 10% I think, but this is not roll-over. You have to start from the beginning every calendar month.

          eBay use a thing called EPC, which is based on a complex algorithm and provides a monthly quality score value. Payouts are based on this, on the whole. And if you really are keen to find out how they determine this EPC then its wise to contact them and you'll most probably get a reply along the lines of a Google reply, which would be unfathomable to say the least.

          So, if you wanna use eBay, stay away from the product domain names etc. Amazon are fine with it however (Amazon only pay out checks to those who do not have a US-based bank account - a bug-bear for me, but its not too difficult to get one if its important enough to do so).

          This site is just an example of what you can do if you put your mind to it. I will change it about when I have time and upon completion of the Challenge.

          Thanks and kind regards to you in Australia Rhodie!

          Joseph


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          Lila, thanks a lot for you kind words! Nice to have you "on-board" so to speak! I hope you gain a lot from at least some of the tips! Give me a shout if there is anything that's not clear please.

          Kind regards

          Joseph
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    wixked challenge - gonna be fun
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    • Profile picture of the author JosephA
      Hi Lasse, yes its been a whole lot of fun already, and just into the second week now!

      I'm excited (as is everyone it seems) about what's going to be the end result - things are coming together very nicely albeit I'm a little worried that my Squid may outrank the primary target site

      The primary target site will take a little longer to mature and only then could hit the very top (yes - I'm gunning for FIRST SPOT) - have to wait and see however....

      Thanks for coming by and enjoy the thrills!

      Kind regards
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      • Profile picture of the author JosephA
        I have a question please. Do the moderators tell you when they remove a post from your thread? Thanks for any replies to that!


        Just before I get to my next info-related post, a quick update on the site/s regards Twilight Poster.

        No doubt they're about to dance as soon as I post this...


        Yahoo obviously is in love with the primary site - they got the site in 2nd now! And that's for the kwds "Twilight poster" for the TwilightPosterz .com site. For "Twilight posters" they have it in at 4th. Nothing showing for my other sites (Squid, WP.com or the Blogspot) within the top 10 in Yahoo.

        Google - I don't often check the standard Google here in Malaysia, so for Scroogle (the Google representative, if you like) for the .com posterz site I'm at 14th, which looks safe and secure - not much dancing going on. So now I just need to ease it up place by place.

        Squid however I have in 6th for Scroogle search. Cool!

        I've been receiving feedback from others who are following the WF thread and are situated in various regions around the world that they've been seeing the TwilightPosterz .com site ranking (using a standard Goog search) at anything between 4th and 14th. Some say a bit further out.

        For "Twilight posters", Scroog is showing my Squid at 8th and the .com posterz site at 14th.

        For the other keywords I've been hitting - "New Moon poster" and "New Moon posters" I've not taken time to check but don't think I would be ranking for those as they are certainly not my main keywords - they are just to spruce my linking strategy that much more.

        A point to note for you perhaps. If I had really targeted my ezine article for the keywords "Twilight poster" I would expect to see that shooting up the rankings by round about now.

        However, I have not been targeting those particular keywords with the article hence the reason for no-show.

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        What are "buyer keywords"?**

        This is the way I see it, but I've made things simple (as always) and I will not go anywhere near metrics and stats etc. Its not my game at all! Furthermore, the following account is not the be-all-and-end-all of "buyer keywords", but its a solid pointer in the right direction that works well for me.


        In simple terms they are keywords or keyword phrases that are used by SEO'ers and IM'ers to "ensure" they make sales from their web pages or website.

        The best way to explain this really is to provide some examples because you can then see for yourself what it graphically means, if you like.


        Okay, let's say I'm out enjoying some lovely food here in Kuching, Malaysia. I'm sitting looking around and I see all these air conditioning units (yup, I mentioned this as a potential hot niche a few days back).

        I "look" into the mind of a person who is in DESPERATE need of new air conditioning.

        Obviously this is very much a buyer-related theme here. Its a product after all, so it will have a market and there will be demand for it.

        But if I were desperately keen on buying a new air conditioning set up, what am I going to search for in Yahoo or Google or Bing?

        Think for a moment and get into the mind of the searcher - the potential buyer...

        If I'm a buyer I'm gonna be searching for...

        "where to buy air conditioning unit"
        "where can I buy air conditioning in Kuching"
        "where to purchase air conditioning units in Kuching"
        "purchase air conditioning units in Kuching"

        and so on...

        What 'key' words turn up over again?

        BUY and PURCHASE

        Also, due to the buyer being located in Kuching, he or she is going to narrow down their search to... you guessed it - Kuching.

        Now obviously if its a very physically small product (or indeed an info product) then it need not be located in Kuching. It may be way over in Japan or Australia or where-ever.

        However, let's imagine its a service that someone needs - chances are that the service will be fairly local to where they live or work.

        "lawyers in San Antonio"
        "Chapter 13 lawyer in Denver"

        You see how tight these searches are? How specific?

        This on the whole is how a buyer is going to locate his or her product or service - they already have done their general searching and now are getting to the point of actually buying. Thus the search is much more specific than it was at the beginning, in the research stage. These are long-tail keywords. Short-tail (or no-tail, depending how short hehe) keywords for example may be something like...

        "air conditioning"

        or in the case of lawyers...

        "bankruptcy lawyer"

        These short tail keywords are so "loose" that if you target them in your own campaigns, not only are you going to be hitting a "dud" - you'll never be able to rank right at the top for such short tails - but even if you did, are you gonna be making a lot of "sales" or just getting a mass of searchers coming to your site looking for very general information?

        That's the general rule anyhow and the philosophy is indeed sound!


        Let's take another example.

        Televisions.

        "purchase Sony HD459LN" (whatever the model name and number is).

        So specific here simply because the buyer is at the buying stage and is very precise about what they have decided they wish to buy!


        "Shelby GT500 for sale"

        Very lovely cars by the way - so lovely to look at! Anyone drive one? Any chance of me taking it for a spin? So yes, of course I have a website on Shelby GT500 for sale (.com), don't I!


        Now, its obvious that by using these sort of long-tails we are not going to be getting nearly the same search volume as we would if we were using 2-word keyphrases...

        Shelby GT500; Sony HDTV; bankruptcy lawyer...

        But simply because our keywords are so tightly targeted to the actual buyer we are very possibly going to receive a good to great visitor-buyer ratio. And I don't know about you but I would much prefer to spend a bit of time ranking for a long-tail that's gonna bring me quite a lot of sales per visit than I would spend a whole heap of time and energy trying to rank for some short keyphrase that may be lucky to bring me a single sale a week or something.


        Of course, this rule is not written in stone. Take "Twilight Poster". Its 2 word and its not seemingly buyer-related at all. Reason I chose that keyword phrase though was - check the search volume for "Twilight posters for sale" and chances are it will be so low that its not worth bothering about.

        Whereas, if I were looking to buy Twilight posters, I suspect I would search for "Twilight poster" or "Twilight posters". For sure, I could be more specific here - "Twilight Edward poster"; "New Moon poster", but you get the point I hope. I just enter the mind of the potential buyer before I target any keyword phrase and take my keyword research from that point onwards.

        Think BUYER and you'll get this keyword game really working in your favor if you have not managed to do so already!


        Hope that helps! If you are still struggling, just ask - I'll try my best to help you out with your niche keyword choice!


        Cheers!
        J


        ** This is an additional observation which should have been included in the original post...

        A further determining factor for a true buyers keyword phrase is to do the following:

        Take your keyword phrase and enter it into a Google search. Upon the results showing, glance to the right hand side and see if there are some ads. If there are a few, or a lot, then you got yourself a true buyers keyword! After all, who in their right mind would be advertising and paying good money for it too, if they were not making any sales? Thus, the more ads that show on a Google search, the better!
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    • Profile picture of the author JosephA
      Hi Michaell, I'm very happy you've found the thread and hope you get a whole lot of benefit from it! I'm obviously not sure where you're at regards your own internet "career" but by all means implement a few of the techniques I've discussed and see what's comfortable for you. Then tweak them here and there to suit your needs and your particular choice in niches.

      Enjoy the fun we'll have on this thread!

      Best!

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  • Profile picture of the author AllanCollins
    Hey Joseph,

    Quick update on your rankings from the States. You have got "twilight poster" on page one of Google. 49.5k Exact / $0.69 CPC. Given the Adsense earnings formula from a previous post, you have the potential to earn $239.75 per month.
    (Did I do the math right?)

    Ultimately, this thread has helped me learn so much.

    Take Care.


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    • Profile picture of the author StephA
      Hi Joseph!

      I've been following along with your challenge as well, mainly on the blog (don't visit here too often as I get sucked in and nothing gets done )...

      I'm seeing your site at number 6 on my Google, with the Squidoo lens at number 7.

      Now, I did have a question for you. I've been trying the Blog Blueprint, and I noticed that the blogs it posts the snippets on are, how should I say this, kind of random. I was kind of thinking they were going to be in the same general category, like all arts and crafts type blogs, or ect.

      Does this hurt your blog to have posts from a nonrelated site? I've always been under the impression that you needed to have relevant links. Even though the page rank of the sites I found my snippets on were at least 3, the blog itself did not seem to be that stellar. Will that cause harm in the long run?

      I've been enjoying your progress so far! I'm rooting for you to make it to number 1!

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      • Profile picture of the author Writingman1421
        I just wrote my snippet and then spun it using power article rewriter (my spinner of choice for the moment). It took me at least 2 hours to do that one small paragraph, with an average of 50% uniqueness all the way through. I'm shooting for 40-60 unique versions to use with article blueprint.

        I come now to the submission part and am blown away by the pace -- its SOOOO slow. I have to copy each snippet, paste it, find the keyword within the snippet then replace it with...... {anchor text|http://www.my-url.com} ......... and then hit submit. Is this how you do it? I feel like i'm moving at a snails pace doing it this way. And then i'd have to do this every 2 days or so if I want to get my money's worth out of blog blueprint.

        Of course, I would spin the snippet with...... {anchor text|http://www.my-url.com} ....... included, but those brackets they ask you to use make it impossible because they are used by the spinning software when inputting variations.

        Could you elaborate on how you do this a bit more with the spinning? Do you manually enter in the link with each blog blueprint post or is there an easier way that i am just not seeing?

        On a side note, I think spinning an article for UAW and then taking a paragraph from that is a much smarter route to take as you suggested. Just make a couple of changes, re-spin it, and you're ready to go -- definitely better than doing a 100% new snippet from scratch. Lesson learned.

        As I can see, im not the only one interested on blog blueprint, so hopefully I am not being too selfish with my questions here

        Thanks Again,

        -Sean


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        When putting your anchor text link, do you put in WITHIN the snippet, do you just plop it down on the end?
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  • Profile picture of the author Writingman1421
    Just want to say THANKS for the tip on scroogle -- unreal. Before I was jumping ALL over the place with my own searches. I had to disable customization again and again and i would STILL get different results in IE and firefox. I use scroogle and after a few searches I start to more accurate see where I am located. Awesome tool, thanks for mentioning it!

    I'm checking this thread everyday now, lol -- juicy stuff!

    -Sean
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    • Profile picture of the author JosephA
      Hi Allan, hey - thanks for doing that - its not something that even occurred to me, really! I'm so focused on the Challenge that I'd really forgotten about the potential monetary value of this thing!

      I went through some figures myself Allan and here is what I came up with regards AdSense (pity it was not nearly as high as your own figure!):



      twilight posters search vol: 33k x .4 (traffic visiting 1st position) x .25 (/adsense click) x . $1.04 (adsense value) x .05 (clickthru)

      $171.60 per month

      twilight poster 49,500 x .4 x .25 x 0.96 x .05 = $237.60

      ("Twilight poster" search volume has gone down from 65k to 49.5k but this month the average should be pushing upwards again due to the movie coming out at the end of June).

      TOTAL for both keywords ranking 1st in Google (only Google, so this is not counting the potential for Yahoo which is looking very "sweet"!) $409/ month

      That's not bad really - once the work is done, its merely a case of ensuring the site remains in top position for both keyword phrases, which generally does not take much time at all - its the initial effort that takes all the effort.

      Spyfu figures:

      Twilight posters 22 advertisers at N/A cpc (not sure why this is showing an N/A)

      Twilight poster 5 advertisers at 0.32 - 0.74 cpc (a bit above the calculation figures, which is often the case in reality anyhow).


      Now let's not forget that these are rough figures. All sorts of issues can crop up - click through could be rubbish (should not be the case because there are enough advertisers for both keywords) (I'm scratching my head trying to think of others....), click thru rate could be much higher - its not difficult to ramp the calculation that we use which is 5% clickthru right up to 15 -30% (sometimes even more!). So even if we are to manage a 10% click thru rate then that's a very serious jump in monthly income!

      Fancy dumping the day job and making a fantastic monthly income on the internet anyone??



      Anyone got any questions about any of this then please shout out! Thanks!

      That's great Allan, thanks for shedding some light on the potential of that scenario!
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      • Profile picture of the author JosephA
        Hi Steph,
        thanks for coming to the thread and leaving a message - much appreciated! Yes, I know you follow me on my blog - we've "chatted" already, huh? Hope your Hubs are really going great Steph!

        Haha, I know full well about being "sucked in" and getting little to nothing done! I also avoid the WF most of the time for exactly the same reason!

        Aha! TwilightPosterz .com at 6th and Squid at 7th. Now those are the sort of stats that get a big smile on my face and have me dancing around like a newly ranked website in Google's top ten!! Superb!


        Good question re Blog Blueprint Steph!

        I also follow blogs of a couple of others who have been using this product for longer than me and one even provides a detailed account of her stats (thank you for that S!) which is very useful indeed - just to allow for further monitoring of how things are progressing when using the BB software.

        To be honest with you Steph, I'd not be concerned about some of your snippets being posted on somewhat random blogs - it certainly will not hurt your site whatsoever! A good quality backlink is a good quality backlink, regardless its from a non-related niche site. Makes no odds. I suggest you don't get hooked on that. What you should be hooked on is - are you seeing progess in your site's rankings? Or are you seeing them drop?

        Whichever of those - then you'll know what to do.

        Further, if you are mixing in a number of other types of backlinking strategies, then the occasional poor quality link here and there should have little to no effect on your overall rankings.

        And even further, I think you are using Hubs for all your sites, is that right? If so, Hubs are so, so strong that they will happily soak up all sorts of abuse and come out the other end smiling. I'm not suggesting you don't care where you get your backlinks from - not at all. But, if your strategies are reasonably sound then a Hub will love you for it, or rather - Google will love your Hub for it!

        See that Twilight Poster Squid? Its had a lot of linking abuse but its still ranking above my other site - my primary site. And that's because Google loves Squids, as it does Hubs!


        Hope that's put your mind at ease Steph.

        And yes, I'm really now shooting for top spot in Google (AND IN YAHOO!) for "Twilight poster". And I'm thinking I may have 2 sites top 5. And, if I can rank top 5 for "Twilight posters" then all the better!

        Take care and very best wishes!

        Jo
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        • Profile picture of the author JosephA
          Sean, I'll get back to you real soon - just popping out for some breakfast and then will be online straight afterwards!

          Best!
          J
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  • Profile picture of the author seoed
    Wow, I think you did it, you are on #3! for Twilight Poster. I use a US proxy called Hidemyass. So, how much traffic do you get now? You did it in about 10 days! Unbelievable.
    However, the services you used are of course very nice but most of us cannot use it as they have a certain monthly subscription to pay for.

    How about offering the services you used as a service for us?

    Moreover, it would be nice if you could write down in short words what exactly your approach was.

    thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author AllanCollins
      Oops!

      Looks like my math was way off. DOH!

      So, I wrote a basic calculator in Javascript based on the formula to make things easier. (formula.txt - save as an .html or .htm for it to work)
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      • Profile picture of the author MAtkins
        Allan:
        A programmer I'm guessing you write php too?
        Too bad we can't still make bank doing that huh?
        I used to charge $125.00 per hour for it.
        Now $25.00 is a stretch

        Oh well, work on my SEO skills
        Maybe we can collaborate sometime.

        I used to write VB, then ASP.NET C#, lately a lot of php.
        Been writing cURL scrapers lately.
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        • Profile picture of the author AllanCollins
          Originally Posted by MAtkins View Post

          Allan:
          A programmer I'm guessing you write php too?
          Too bad we can't still make bank doing that huh?
          I used to charge $125.00 per hour for it.
          Now $25.00 is a stretch

          Oh well, work on my SEO skills
          Maybe we can collaborate sometime.

          I used to write VB, then ASP.NET C#, lately a lot of php.
          Been writing cURL scrapers lately.

          MAtkins, indeed the market for PHP developers is quite a bit saturated. However, on the local fronts, there's still a need. That's actually my day job-- WP Build-outs and PHP programming. I've been messing around with IM for the past few years, however, I made it a goal this year to get into making money with affiliate marketing/Adsense sites.
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    • Profile picture of the author JosephA
      Sean, ya - the Scroogle (or HideMyAss tool as SEOed mentioned) is great! Provides a much more accurate impression if you are assessing your own website's ranking!



      Blog Blueprint - agreed, it is tedious. Yes, I do use a method for inserting the {bla bla bla} link. In fact, to be straight with you, the whole thing can be almost fully automated. Would you believe that, or should I say it again? I know, totally amazing!

      I retrieved this method from a forum I was frequenting so I cannot take credit for it and also, I do not use the full method either, simply because I have no real issue with copy/pasting my text to the BB box for submission.

      Here is what you do with the {bla bla bla} bit.

      1. Write up your snippet and where you wanna get your hyper text link, just pop in something like xxxx. Don't worry if you are using different text links - no one really bothers if the syntax for the text link is not totally perfect. Just focus on the rest of the article for quality. A couple words out of place with regards syntax are not going to concern anyone. And definitely not Google! Hardly anyone reads this stuff even when its been indexed, so this is not really our concern.

      2. Ok, so you got your xxxx in your spun article. You got however many versions of that spun article. Now go get Notepad++ (free download).

      3. Now what I do here is to create about 5 folders for my links. So if I'm hitting a single site here, its 5 folders on my desktop for this site. I then go and grab a few of the spun snippets and drop them into each folder. Thus for my homepage and my main keyword I will drop in perhaps 12 snippets into folder one. For my second keyword and perhaps an inner page on my site, I drop in 6 snippets into folder 2... and so on...

      4. Now crack open the Notepad++

      Go to "Search" at the top

      "Find in Files"

      Where it says "Find What", type in the xxxx

      "Replace with what" - your chosen link - copy and paste in there.

      "Directory" - hit that little tab with the ... beside where it says "Directory", then enter the file name that you want to replace the xxxx with your chosen link.

      Then go to "Replace in Files" on the right and hit that.

      You will be asked if you are sure you wanna do it...sure do!

      Then voila! You just replaced all the xxxx with your {bla bla bla} of choice.

      And keep on keeping on for every single link/page/site whatever.

      Then sit back and think to yourself, darn - how much time did I just save myself doing it that way!!?


      More to come about the automation process Sean. Try this out and see how it goes...

      Regards
      J
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      • Profile picture of the author JosephA
        Hey Allan, is this your profession? You're a programmer? Very neat!

        I can't get the doc to open for me in htm or html

        How to do that? Can I save the file to desktop in notepad first and then convert from there perhaps?

        Thanks for the tool - looks real cool and beats trying to work on spreadsheets if you're a bit of dope like me!
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        • Profile picture of the author JosephA
          SEOed, many thanks for getting back to me with that great stat! Super! Super!

          Yes, I occasionally use "HideMyAss" too - very similar to the Scroogle Scraper, but provides somewhat different rankings so obviously they are both using different servers or proxies or whatever.

          I think that took 8 days in all - from the purchase of the Twilight Poster domain which is listed in Dynadot and WHOIS as 1st May. So that is pretty good going!

          One thing that I find kinda funny - the TwilightPosterz. com site is up against a PR7 site (my site is second) in Yahoo. I suspect within a week or so I may well be kicking a PR7's ass! My teeny weeny week old site is a PRn/a. Oh the joys!

          Goog analytics is only showing double figures for search uniques (non-referral). I will add the site into StatCounter to cover for any discrepancies. I find that Goog Analytics shows massive discrepancies for a lot of my webpages so its best to go for StatCounter. Should be able to begin providing true figures from tomorrow.



          Tools - tools are great if you know how to use them. If you don't then you are best off doing everything by hand! How many tools have I wasted money on when I had little idea how to get the best out of them! Hence I use only the simplest of tools now - I can't fathom the rest!

          I think there are rather a lot of folks who do that - everything by hand, except for the fact that they may well outsource the writing, which eases the burden no-end. I did not want to outsource the writing because I want to show that all this stuff can be done on your own with no help. Apart from the site banner by FlipDiva. But that's obviously not helping the SEO.

          Thus in this case, a really good spinning software is the ideal way to go if you cannot afford regular outsourcing. A quality article writer after all is rarely going to be charging any less than $10 per 500 word article, often a lot more, and for good reason too. But these figures are well out of the price range of most of us, hence grabbing The Best Spinner or similar product.

          I mentioned before that no SEO or IM tool is worth buying if you or your family are going to go hungry. But if you are serious about SEO and IM then a really good spinning tool is worth much more than its weight in gold! So, save your pennies and make them really count by investing in that tool above any other - many of the other necessary tools have a free counterpart anyhow. Take Google Keyword Tool as an excellent example!

          I thought about how I can ease the burden for everyone of meeting the cost of using SEO and IM tools SEOed. Ease the burden for anyone who wants to use such tools but simply cannot meet the costs. Its not easy though - the sellers of these products tend to have almost all options covered when it comes to having more than one person using the same software product (IP address is monitored closely!). For obvious reasons too - they want to make as much profit as possible and "abuse" of their terms will not be tolerated.

          Thus, for now, what I've done is to make some highly attractive offers on my own website - link in my sig below - for the tools that I personally use at the moment, and there will be more coming soon. I can't say more here cos I will get wrapped by the mods!

          If there is a demand for it (which I know full well there is!) I shall get an eBook written which will include many of my methods and my philosophies. This will be very affordable of course. Can't say more at the moment (sorry mods).


          Take care and thanks again for that great news!

          Cheers!
          Joseph
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          • Profile picture of the author JosephA
            Hi Allan, thanks for getting back to me!

            I tried opening up the file and then saving it in NVU but although I can get the web page fine, its simply the javascript you put together.

            No worries however, I got my old trusty calculator here with its sticky buttons if I need to work some figures

            Thanks again!
            Regards
            Joseph
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            • Profile picture of the author JosephA
              Hi Everyone!

              I've added a stat counter at the bottom of the page in the footer which will show in all pages of the Twilight Posterz .com site.

              The stats are set to show only unique figures just to make that clear.

              Further, if you want to see an actual chart of the stats then click on the View Stats tab in the footer there. It comes up with a cool looking summary of the stats that you can actually play around with should you enjoy that sort of thing

              The company that offers this is called StatCounter .com
              I use the free version which is highly functional and offers up almost anything that most of us should need.

              Hope that helps!

              Best!

              J
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              • Profile picture of the author rhodie
                Joseph,

                seems like a great result to achieve in such a short time. Did you expect it?

                If you do monetize the site with Adsense, it would be great if you could give us some feedback on the forecast versus actual return.

                Thanks again for such an interesting topic. I think it will achieve mini forum status.
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                • Profile picture of the author JosephA
                  Hi Rhodie, nice result indeed - seems the site is showing a bit more often in the top 10 and top 5 in various parts of the globe. No, I did not expect this quite so soon. Its a fairly tough keyword as was the whole point so I thought I would have to "scrap" for it a bit longer. Hence the 40 day Challenge and not the 8 Day Challenge!

                  What's left for me to do now is to get top spot! I'm almost there in Yahoo with a PR7 to oust and that's gonna be a sinch, I can feel it in my blood haha!

                  Yes, okay, I'll set up AdSense on it since eBay is being a bit sour towards me. Your loss eBay you big fat bossy boots! Us little guys and gals will show you who is boss!

                  May take me a day or so to do that cos I'll have to fiddle around with some of the text on the pages etc. Bare with me on that please.

                  Can you tell me what "mini forum" status is please Rhodie? I'm kinda dumb-de-doh on forum stuff like that. :p


                  Regards!
                  Joseph
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                  • Profile picture of the author JosephA
                    Hmmm... sorry, don't mean to be hogging all the limelight on my own thread.... well, okay, I do....

                    I've got the Twilight Wordpress .com site in at 11th on my Scroogle. Anyone else seeing it lurking around please?

                    http://twilightposters4all.wordpress
                    Just put the .com at the end.

                    Thank you!

                    J


                    ****

                    If I use the HideMyAss search tool/proxy for checking up Google results I'm seeing the Twilight Posterz .com site at 5th and the Twilight poster WordPress .com site at 6th with the Squid back in 12th. Odd things showing up!
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  • Profile picture of the author AllanCollins
    Yes, saving it to your desktop, then opening up Notepad, then saving it as a .html or .htm and finally opening it up in your browser seems like the easiest route.
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  • Profile picture of the author Writingman1421
    Wow....Just Wow. So helpful you've been -- the notepad thing is going to make things SUPER easy, I just tried it!

    Ive learned more from this thread for my SEO goals & dreams than I have learned in the past 6 months. Signed up for both blog blueprint and The Best Spinner (it truly is the best from what I have seen) and am going to start utilizing your techniques RIGHT away!

    Thanks and I'll be sure to stay tuned!
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  • Profile picture of the author dyadvisor
    Joseph A. I could benefit from you, and maybe? you could gain from me. Without using paid tools, I charge my clients $250 per article. This comes with a written guarantee.

    Within 48 hours of article issue I will deliver at least 5 Google ratings in #1 to #10 position. If this single article, does not perform, they pay nothing.

    Of course I do so unique research methods, and know my results before I start writing. I have never paid a refund.

    Recently I had a person I tutor for free, check my results on a client in professional financial service planning, confirm the results. Now these are keyword combos in the 12,000 to 35,000 monthly traffic range.

    His checking of my now 2 month old article showed 15 phrases at #1 in Google, 3 at #2, and 2 at #3.

    I certainly believe you, and you could probably teach me a few tricks, or freely share ideas.

    I am not in need of money. Yet I am not stupid. People think my claim is crazy, so I can imagine how they feel about yours. However, I admire your abilities in achievement. I learn off of others and you do too.

    Without even seeming your methodology, I know only a fool would challenge. I have learned that no how smart you are in a certain area there is somebody smarter.

    I would be glad to send clients your way, as this is not just guts or a guarantee to offer this incredible challenge, he already knows the outcome.

    Learn from him, do not be a fool and bet.
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    • Profile picture of the author JosephA
      Sean, yes oh yes, it works and it works a treat!

      Just one way to cut your workload very nicely indeed!

      I've got another "pointer" to add too, which can cut down the work even more. No time to write it up right now though, so you'll have to bare with me please. (Now's the time I should be considering outsourcing some of my work load!).

      Good luck and enjoy!

      Regards
      Joseph
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      • Profile picture of the author JosephA
        Would anyone happen to be able to do some article writing and spinning for me please? Purely for this Challenge. (More details including offer of payment can be found on a recent post on my SEO Tips website - link in my signature below!).

        I know, I know, I just said that I wanted to show you that this could be done with no help or outsourcing whatsoever. True - it can be - of course!

        However, I have a whole heap on my plate with regards alot of queries via email, on my other site and of course on the thread here plus with Skype calls etc. that I'm finding it tough going to find the time at the moment to do my article writing and spinning.

        All the other tasks I will of course continue to do myself.

        If anyone cares to take on a few articles for writing up and spinning I would be very much obiliged. I can't mention payment terms here or else the post will be taken down but this will be paid work for sure! 300 worders is all I'm looking for.

        Thanks for any consideration!

        Regards
        J
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    • Profile picture of the author JosephA
      Hi DyAdvisor, I'm all ears. Please bare with me and I'll PM you in due course.

      Thank you!

      Regards
      Jo
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      • Profile picture of the author JosephA
        Okay here we go with regards to automating some tasks on your computer - this can include things like Blog Blueprint, LinkVana, article submissions and much more besides!

        The product I have used for helping to automate various tasks is FREE!

        You need to go download "Do It Again!" which can be found here Do It Again - Free, simple program to automate tasks by recording and playing back macros

        or indeed you can use a number of other macro task performing software products.


        You may have to tweak this a bit as I don't now use it too often - I'm happy to sit and do this sort of stuff while I fiddle about with other tasks of the day. But it can make life a fair bit easier for you.

        I'll take Blog Blueprint as the example here...



        1. Open up your Blog Blueprint page ready for posting.

        2. Open up the folder with your BB posts that already have the {bla bla bla} link within.

        3. Make sure you can see both of these - the BB snippets and the BB page for posting on your monitor.

        4. Open up the "Do it Again" program and then click on "start new task" and the program will begin to record.

        5. Open up the first file in the snippets post folder and go through your own process of copying and pasting this post into the BB post scheduler. (Includes cutting and pasting of the snippet title etc.).

        6. Select your category on the BB posting page. Then click submit.

        7. Stop the macro recorder and either scroll lock on "do it again" or go to the Options tab at the top and select "Repeat task settings for..."

        8. Upon setting the recording program to repeat, you should select to delay cycles to around 5 seconds.

        9. Do test this as a single play a couple of times just to ensure that it works correctly.



        Now the software should be set up to repeat the same task time and again - as many times as you would wish it. You can go relax for a bit, providing you've checked that the tasks will be completed correctly with no "hiccups" along the way.


        If I've missed out a step of the process I do apologize - my brain is shutting down a bit hehe.

        If you've tried this macro process that I mention above and can't get it to work (you have to do your own tweaks here and there - muck about with the program for a few mins to get familiar) then do get back to me and I'll try to make the process a bit clearer.


        Again, I cannot take credit for this - that has to go to a gent I met on a forum I frequent. So all credit to him for sharing his knowledge about this super automation technique - thanks to you SM!


        Best wishes to all!
        Kind regards
        J
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  • Profile picture of the author Writingman1421
    Wow, Another awesome tip. I play a lot of online MMORPGs, which consequently make use of in-game macros that do things without you being there. I didn't think it possible to be able to do this with my actual workload -- let alone back link building. Thats unreal! Going to implement this technique too.

    Thanks!

    -Sean

    P.S. I don't know if my results are scrued, but your site is coming up on page 7, spot 5 with a normal google search. Perhaps its due to my area.
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  • Profile picture of the author seoed
    Coming back to the BlogBlueprint matter. I guess this service alone has given you great results so far. Now, I guess a lot of members here dont have this tool or cannot simply pay $60 a month for this.
    Apart from this, doing 20 submissions every day should be too much. I would be satisfied with 20 submissions per week or so.

    What I am driving at is this:

    Who would be interested in building a group of 6 or 7 members who all pay about $10 per month and get the right to submit 20 posts to BlogBlueprint per week?
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  • Profile picture of the author Writingman1421
    I got the Do it Again Software to work perfectly...but it just keeps submitting the same snippet again and again -- it doesnt move to file 2. Is there something I have to enter in so that it moves to the next file? Or, do I have to submit all the files the first time? I'm going to say its that later, but I just wanted to be sure. Thanks again for the tip!

    -Sean

    P.S. I check again and your site is now on page 6 spot 7. I assume this is google dancing with my searches. I'll check scroogle next time.

    Edit----

    I got it to work just fine. This is truly awesome. Copying and pasting sucks and is so very boring. This allows me to get up and do other things instead of sitting here like a drone and just clicking until my brain explodes.
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    • Profile picture of the author k0brik
      Ok ... this is my 3rd post here on WF ... yes i'm a noob
      i really don't post a lot on forums, i join forums because they force me to join ... otherwise I won't

      But this thread i think it has something... something that made me to write.

      I know this challenge didn't ended yet, and probably it's too soon for me to reach some conclusion ...

      So, what did we learned so far from this thread? ... here is a little summary, Joseph please correct me if i'm wrong... (I'm also here to learn)

      1. Analyze the keyword ... yes that's the first thing we should do...

      2-3. The second step that Joseph did was to submit articles to article directories... and Joseph pointed us at least 5 directories:

      Ezinearticles.com, GoArticles.com, ArticleBlast.com, Amazines.com, ArticleAlley.com, ArticleDashboard.com


      at least this is what most of the readers of this tread think... but i beg to differ here....

      Recently I've watched a video from Matt Cutts, where he talked about the things that you can do to bring more visitors to your website. There's too many videos with Matt and i just can't find the link to the specific video at this moment. But here is a summary...

      One way to bring visitors is to create noise about your website.

      You can do this by being "the bad guy" and talk ugly about your competitors, whenever and on as much forums as you can do it to make people ask about your competitors integrity, so they will visit your site to find more about why you spread such words.

      You can also be the good guy, and spread the word about your project and make people follow you, by give them something free, something they need. And this is what i think Joseph did... from the first moment before he choose his keyword. Spread the word ...

      Now, let's look a little at twilightposterz.com . Just because Joseph announced his project on this forum, at this moment, he has 2 types of audience. 1st type are people who search for "twilight posters" to find some posters to buy or just some pictures to download to put on their screen pc, and 2nd type are a lot of WF people who search for "twilight posters" to check the rank of the site and how it will evolve, 2nd type will vanish in time for sure.

      But spreading the word gived Joseph a boost right from the start. So this is the second step if not the first to follow, and put articles submission to 3rd place.

      4. Build links to your anchors from article directories to make them stronger. Now, i'm not sure if Joseph used Blog Blueprint to create backlinks only to the anchors. This for sure is not a new technique, like also Joseph stated, but if your anchors are strong enough to support a big amount of links ... BB it's not the only way to do this.

      I hate writing articles, and i consider article directories the most pure form of spam, but if it works why not ... there are other ways to get some strong links.

      5. Squidoo and Hubpages - and also build backlinks to these using BB

      Ok, this is what i remember from all this thread. Joseph pls correct me if I forgot something.

      6. Bookmarking?! - Joseph you didn't used bookmarking as a part of your strategy, but you did it with MrWong which you think it gived you a doffolow link. Guess what?! MrWong gives you a nofollow link as far as i know.

      But, because you didn't use bookmarks in your challenge, and you stated that you will intend to test the power of social sites in the future, I will, and think most of the followers of this thread are willing too bookmark the site after the 40 days are over ... A lot of us whant to know what effect has the bookmarking, so for example ... if you rank 5 at the end of 40 days ... it will be nice to see if gennuine bookmarks have any effect on your rankings ... and also to see if bookmarking applications are worth the money.

      This is my early opinion on this challenge. After 2 years i expect my first payment from adsense , I'm still a noob. I used to track big keywords ... the ones that pay high... you know what i mean ... now i found my keyword, by mistake, searching for something i would like to promote. 165.000 global searches and 90.000 local searches and pays around 1$ as KeywordTool says. The .com is parked, the number 1 and 2 are just a few months old, and i could not resist to buy the .net and .org.
      Hope i'll have more luck in the future. And don't expose your keyword unless you are confident with your seo skills like Joseph did.

      I'm not a native english speaker, so pardon me for any mistakes.
      All credits go to Joseph for this usefull thread. Back to linkbuilding now.
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  • Profile picture of the author FiverrGuru
    good read man!!
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    • Profile picture of the author JosephA
      Hi Sean, yes pretty neat re the macro, huh! I was a bit concerned that my step-by-step was not so clear but if you managed to understand it then it couldn't be too bad after all. (I just read your post that you made a bit later - good that you got that part ironed out nicely!


      Nevertheless, if anyone is unclear about anything re the macro set-up for automating tasks such as Blog Blueprint, LinkVana etc. then do let me know. I'm not the guy to be fiddling around with these sort of programs, after all - SEO is my game, but I'll try to make it clearer if necessary.


      Page 7 on Google - yuck! Mind you, its probably dancing at the moment - I just released a number of articles via UAW plus a few other bits and bobs are heading its way with regards backlinks. No doubt affecting the balance of the site in the rankings. (I hope its that anyhow! ).


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      I must mention this - I said yesterday that I would add AdSense to the site. I can't! I'd get my account snapped shut as soon as I get a few clicks from the WF. So it has to stay as is for now, sorry to say!


      Thanks for your understanding!

      Regards
      J
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      • Profile picture of the author JosephA
        SEOed, I love your creativity, I really do! This sort of thinking fits with me very nicely indeed!

        However, I think you will find that folks may not wish to join in like this - to share costs of BB or other similar software simply due to scepticism.

        For example, if they have a hot niche and its a bit hush hush, there is no way that they'll want anyone else knowing about it, thus using BB through someone else as the moderator is not gonna be for them.

        Furthermore, if someone chooses not to pay for a month or two, it means that the fees have to be recalculated each time this happens which may cause a few grumblings.

        And how are you gonna work it where the moderator has to do all the postings? Sure, the folks that are using the software via the moderator can simply create their 20 posts for the week with their links and then email them to the mod, but then the mod has to do all the posting.

        If using a macro as already mentioned for the postings then of course it takes a lot of the repetitive work out of the equation but its still locking up the computer for a while which may be precious time for the moderator - they may work a full time job, have kids etc so any time working on their IM projects is very limited and thus very precious.

        The mod would perhaps need a bit of recompense for their effort or else they may become disheartened with the whole set up.

        These are fairly minor issues, I know, but I sense its enough to put a lot of people off - I've seen this sort of situation before and it was really tough going to get the project off the ground and then to sustain it.

        Nevertheless, if you can get a group of folks who are really keen on this, its a great idea and I really do wish you the very best with it!

        Thumbs up!


        Jo
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        • Profile picture of the author JosephA
          I just did a quick check-see in my Scroog. I see the Twilight Posterz .com site has slumped a bit here - 14th. I got Squid in 6th to 8th. But I also see my Amazines article popping into the top 20, as is the Go Article and I have a different page of the Twilight Posterz .com site coming in top 20 too - twilightposterz .com/twilight-poster/

          Fun times!
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          • Profile picture of the author JosephA
            Hi K0brik, great summary! Thanks a lot - helps folks to get a really good feel for all the posts that have been made without having to read everything!

            Article directories to include ArticleRich and iSnare. ArticleRich published my article within 24 hours - which I love! iSnare - I have not checked but will do today cos I want to get some backlinks to it. Dashboard is VERY slow and that's still not published, neither is Article Alley, which is unusual as that one's usually around 3 - 4 days.


            TOTALLY right K0brik - I really like the concept of building a "brand" name regards your sites. And not simply churning out very average content in the pursuit of backlinks. This is indeed the way I'm heading for all my own new sites from now on - let other people do a lot of the talking for you, rather than you yourself "having" to say that you are the best. Great Quality talks the loudest!

            With Blog Blueprint I did both - backlinks to my primary site (all pages!) and to the Squid, the WP.com and the BlogSpot blog. Don't think I did to the article directories though - I use UAW alone for that.

            For sure, a lot of folks - like yourself, hate writing. Helps to motivate when you're beginning to see some good cash flow though! Outsourcing is the name of the game, particularly if you do not use a spinner. Outsourcing only ONCE you have the income to support it! Don't go hungry because of your outsourcing costs! And, I suggest we get together and talk about really good writers that we all use - the cheaper end who still do a fine job, and the higher end who obviously do a lot of research and really craft their work, hence the price perfectly well justified. More on that to come!

            Hubs - as mentioned, not for backlinks! Standalone sites, yes - definitely!


            I'll have to get back to you on the other pointers though - got to head out for a short while.

            Very nice summary K0brik! Thanks a lot for that!

            Speak again real soon!

            Regards
            J
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            • Profile picture of the author StephA
              Thanks Jo for getting back to me! I feel like I'm learning so much from this thread!

              I am experimenting with several sites right now, so we'll see how it helps. Do you have any guidelines on how many posts to submit a day? I'm trying to do the deep linking to individual posts - I did try blasting a bunch at one of my hubs a few days ago and saw it drop a couple pages, but I'm building more links in the hopes it will rise back up.

              I love the idea of the Do It Again software, but I couldn't get it to work on my computer. It kept popping up errors about the file permissions, and I have no idea how to fix that. I have Windows 7, so I don't know if that's the reason...
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            • Profile picture of the author JosephA
              I'm back - let me carry on with K0brik's anaylsis...


              Bookmarks - Mr Wong is a no-follow? As far as I'm aware it is a do-follow, although they may well have changed that very recently, which would displease a lot of IM'ers and SEO'ers. Mind you, there is absolutely no harm at all - its to be encouraged, in gaining a few no-follow backlinks. This simply mixes things up nicely and loses any possibility of a footprint for Google to follow even more!

              Actually I have been using bookmarking in the Challenge but not to any particular extent. Its certainly been my least-used method for backlinks. If I were to use them on the primary site it would be fairly easy to make a mess of it. I steer well clear for that reason - Goog seems very touchy re SB backlinks these days.

              But I think I did send a few SB type backlinks to the primary site, and a few also to the other "anchors". I've yet to write up a post on what I use to do this. Its a cool tool! And its FREE!

              I'll get to that soon...

              But yes for sure K0brik - its about experimenting with such links. And not just one time. Continuously. Goog, Yahoo and Bing are changing their algorithms fairly often so what works one month may not the next.

              I wish you the very best of "luck" (its not luck - its perseverence and belief in your methods) with your new - found skills K0brik. If ever you are struggling with something regards your SEO then do please get in touch and I'll see what I can do to help out!

              Thanks again for your detailed post and summing up the techniques used throughout the thread!

              Best to you!

              Jo


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              FiverrGuru, glad you could join us and are enjoying the read! Please do come back regularly - lots of great tips and tricks being shared amongst the community as you can see!

              Thanks again!
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              • Profile picture of the author JosephA
                Hi Steph, nice to see you on here again!

                How many posts to submit for general backlinking? Early days is best to be slow and sure... keep 'em coming and slowly ramp them up over time until you get to where you wanna be. And be sure to try to get a nice mix from various sources. Don't worry about low PR or whatever. Any PR, providing its a quality source, is well worth having!

                With the likes of Hubs they should soak up a bit more abuse than a new private domain site, so don't you be worrying about your own Hub dropping a bit. I suspect that will be back up fairly soon and will surpass its previous ranking rather nicely. Just keep on building those links and there is no doubt you'll see good things come of it! Keep us posted please!

                The Do it Again software may have a conflict with a program you have on your computer, Steph. Tough call really. I'm afraid I'm no computer geek so can't really suggest much. There are other programs that do a similar job which you may wish to try out. I did a Goog search for "macro software" and that churns up quite a few results for this type of program.


                Keep up with the backlinks Steph!


                Take care!

                Jo

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                Hi Scott, welcome and thanks for joining in!

                Yes, this whole SEO/IM thing can be incredibly frustrating, and if anyone tells you otherwise they are either lying or simply have no idea!

                All this nonsense that you read about "follow my method and make a ton in 2 weeks" is pure garbage! Pity however that it does fool a lot of people into buying! (Well okay, you can see my site/s doing relatively nicely within a 10 day period, but this is not the norm).

                Slow and sure is the best way to progress in this SEO game. Make positive (as much as you can do, anyhow - something that you have seen with your own eyes and seen that it works and works well!) that you are following a thoroughly sound set of principles, follow them very carefully (until you feel very comfortable to begin tweeking to your own needs) and you simply cannot go wrong! And if you do go wrong, its no doubt due to a deviation from the principles some place along the way.

                Best regards and good wishes!

                Jo
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                • Profile picture of the author JosephA
                  G'day, just a short post here (I always think that but it ALWAYS becomes much longer than originally intended)!

                  This post is different than what has been up till now pretty much the norm. This post has been put together to stir things in your own mind as to the possibilities. Even if its not relevant to your current focus, its food for thought all the same.

                  As the SEO and internet marketing saying goes - it should get you to "think outside of the box". Personally I am not fond of that term. It instills the sense of inadequacy when you struggle to actually think outside the so-called box. However, with my help, you should, if you cannot already, gain the capability of "thinking outside of the box" and really taking on a fresh approach to your own internet marketing and profiteering thereof!

                  Thus, let us commence...

                  Its about possibility and potential...



                  Okay, here is the scenario, and I want some feedback from you lads and lasses if I can ask you for that, please. If only to say... "hmmm.. interesting" (or not, as the case may be).


                  My girlfriend and I were on holiday in Bali a few weeks back - lovely place indeed, has to be said! We stayed in this fantastic hotel - not so much a hotel but a few acres of landscaped gardens with 15 villas dotted around. Superb!

                  There is a gorgeous swimming pool right in the heart of the gardens, just where our own villa was situated - great for a midnite dip if you are so inclined. I wish I could pop some pics up on here...

                  By the way, the hotel is Bumba Bali in the Nusa Dua area of Bali, and the prices are thoroughly reasonable! Lovely for a honeymoon, actually!

                  We decided to hire a driver/guide and car for a day to head out and see a bit of the Bali countryside. Got recommendations from the onwer of the hotel/villas about where to go. He was Swiss by the way - Heinz - a super chap!

                  Anyhow, it was a real pleasant day - took in some really nice sights and enjoyed the experience very much indeed! The drive was great and our guide/driver (Wayan) was really excellent too.

                  Me being me, I'm always thinking 'internet' you see... Can't stop thinking re internet possibilities - businesses, making some extra money, or simply just SEO'ing sites, which when it comes down to it gives me the most satisfaction by far! One has to pay the bills, however.

                  My gf gets fed up with me - "always thinking about your internet!":rolleyes:

                  So I'm thinking, how about Wayan - how does he advertise his work?

                  Through a couple of hotels as it turns out. He gives some of his work to his brother when he's got too many clients to deal with. But at times business is quiet and there is no income. Supporting a young family on no income is very tough no matter where you are from!

                  And here I'm gonna ask if he has a business card. My gf manages a small hotel in Kuching and quite a few of her customers ask about Bali. So why not tell them about this hotel we went to and about our driver/guide for the day too - simply say it was a wonderful experience and he's a great guy etc.

                  I check the business card and I see an email address and a website. Hmmm, interesting. I'll check that when I get back to Kuching.

                  I do and what I see there is something ghastly! The website is so basic that your own grandmother could probably do better!

                  I send Wayan an email to say thanks so much and then a "testing" query as to his website.

                  Get a reply the next day saying he gets no business through the site. I mean, gee, even the domain name is something like http://wayandriver.com

                  Okay, no need for poking fun. Apparently the site was put together a couple years back by some European tourists who used his services and thought they would do him a favor. That's a very kind notion! After all, it was entirely free and there is hosting fees to pay too, which Wayan does not need to worry about!

                  So of course, I'm wondering what I can do here. The amount of time involved in creating a new site with about 20 pages of fresh content and then to optimize the site for "travel Bali" related keywords is going to be quite an undertaking. And what's even worse, how to deal with potential service users?

                  That's got me stumped. I can handle the first parts of this equation, particularly and rather easily the SEO - I'm thinking that if I can really focus on this, I could be ranking top 5 for say, 10 keyword phrases within a couple months. I may even get someone to design a site for him - would be a bit costly but its gonna help out him and his family. In fact, it could change his life!

                  But, I don't have the time for everything and I have no true concept of how to handle potential customers. They phone from say - USA. They love what they see on the site. They wanna book up a couple days touring Bali - the itinerary has aleady been decided because these are all listed on the website (with loads of glossy pics, of course!).

                  But what now?

                  I was thinking that perhaps a workable method would be for potential customers (those who were interested in booking a guide and car for the day or more) to email me with any queries etc. Or maybe even if they wanna call me too - but I am no expert on Bali that's for sure!

                  Anyhow, they let me know one way or the other which days they want to book up for which tour. Fine! They can pay via Paypal or via credit card. Refundable I guess may be best, within a certain time-frame.

                  From this I get a $10 commission (let's say, for example here - it could be more). Wayan then get's his cut which is the charges for the day's excursion minus the cost of his monthly vehicle rental and fuel. So he's happy due to the fact that he's getting quite a lot more customers.

                  In fact, it could come to the point whereby he's getting so many customers through the website that he then has to "hire" out his work to other drivers. For this he charges $10 a time to the other driver. And as such, he pockets $10 per client for making a phone call. And that's it.

                  Now imagine he's getting on average 4 clients a day - 2 of which are through the website, which would be around 60 a month through the website. This means he has one customer for himself, one for his brother and 2 to "hire" out to other drivers. Extra $20 a day for him for 5 mins work making a couple of phone calls.

                  For Balinese $20 a day on top of the $20 they make for a 10 hour working day (or whatever it is) is a BIG booster to a monthly income.

                  Let's crank that up a notch. Let's imagine the site is ranking in the search engines for 20 related keywords - some of which are top spot which attract a search volume of say 10k searches per month. I suspect we're gonna get real busy at this point!!

                  Wayan's rolling in money and I'm having a bit of fun too - after all, my own income is also relatively passive (or could be totally passive if I hire someone to handle the calls) and his income is almost 100% passive!

                  You see where I am with this? Passive income on tap! Rollover AdSense!

                  Now let's not simply stop here! Let's also consider parts of Malaysia, Philippines plus a number of other places besides. Maybe your own locality has potential for this? What's the capital investment? ZIP! Its time that has to be invested in the first instance - website production, keyword selection, then ranking by means of SEO. Thereafter, this could be almost totally passive income, which may well seriously add up to be BIG TIME!

                  I know there may be some form of regulations for such a business. On the other hand, there may not. There are here in Malaysia but they are so relaxed that no one seems to really worry about it much. Anyhow, that would be for the guide/driver to fathom, if it were required. They've probably already dealt with the various red tape issues.

                  Who has experience in tourism? Who can think outside the box here? Who wants to JV with me and with Wayan on this? Or else, you wanna just share your own thoughts about this or about other potential markets that can be dramatically furthered by some high quality SEO on a fairly simple website?

                  The world, my friends is becoming OUR oyster. Get to grips with your own SEO techniques and the dollar signs hardly waver from in front of your eyes!

                  I leave this to you now...


                  Thanks a lot for your interest in this post and please, even if you know nothing of this - about travel business, just make your own points if you would care to. Its always great to get feedback!

                  Regards and best wishes!

                  Jo
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  • Profile picture of the author Scottie Boy
    I will be here for the ride, and thank you for helping us newbies. You are absolutely correct when you say it is frustrating....I hope you accomplish it in 39 days!

    Scott
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  • Profile picture of the author tamtu
    Joseph you are exploding my brain...By the way would it be just enough to get back links to my anchors as you suggested without using snippet links through blog blueprint (too expensive for me at the moment) if I am targeting micro niches with low competition as I have many sites lurking in the end of 1st page and start of second page.
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    • Profile picture of the author JosephA
      Sheena, I hope I'm exploding your brain in a positive way

      No need for snippets from Blog Blueprint at all. I only use this to really help ramp up my campaigns and have to afford such tools as its my job.

      Low comp micro niches are a great place to get fine results without having to go to town regards a lot of very high quality backlinks. You can buy a single domain and build that out with good content and good long-tails, get a few quality backlinks going up over time and enjoy watching the rankings for every page you are backlinking too become better and better.

      Simply use the freebies - article directories, Squids, Blogspot, Wordpress.com and others besides. And do also use social bookmarking sites but just be careful not to overdo it. All free after all. I'll be writing a post soon about what I use for SB links and its a free tool and really good one too! You should have pretty much enough there to get some good to great results with long tails that have not much in the way of real competition.

      If you got a lot of sites at the bottom of page one or start of page 2 of Goog - should be a case of just nudging them with a number of really nice backlinks and all should come good given a bit of time Sheena.


      Best wishes!

      Jo
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  • Profile picture of the author tamtu
    Sure in the +ve way. That's good assurance you have given me Joseph, thanks a lot.

    Take care!
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    • Profile picture of the author JosephA
      Pleasure is mine Sheena!

      Just keep the links coming slowly and surely and don't go all out like I'm "having" to do (hence no need for Blog Blueprint or similar costly software products). Your sites may dance a little, but its such a pleasure to see those sites rise a place one day, then another place in a couple more days. And on and on until... Yes, the ultimate goal of top spot is yours and yours alone!

      And that's when you crack open the Champagne!

      Enjoy the journey upwards!

      Joseph
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      • Profile picture of the author JosephA
        I've been harking on about a tool that I use for my social bookmarking tasks. So now, prepare to be amazed (unless you use this tool already, of course!). This tool is FREE!

        Now I don't know about you but I've tried a few tools in the past re SB submissions and automating this whole process as much as possible. After all, its tedious to say the very least, to make 20+ SB submissions for the same website.

        So here is what I tried before, and a few comments about what I found.


        BookmarkingDemon

        This is the biggest dog on the market regards SB submission. What price is it now - about $147 one off fee? The amount of SB sites available for submissions is something around the 120 mark which is huge! I found that success rate was around the 70% mark, if I remember correctly.

        No doubt that in the right hands this is a cooooool tool! If you got the cash to check it out then by all means do so. The main problem I had with it was its so fiddly to get used to. And if you've been reading along within the thread you will know already that I am rather dumb-de-do when it comes to tackling tough tools. I simply could not get the best out of this tool due to the sheer amount of options and thus I got frustrated with it and promptly returned it to the vendor.

        Yup, call me stupid if you like. I accept! My head simply does not fit with clunky tools that have a hundred plus functions. Keep it simple and all should be well!


        BookmarkingWiz

        I gave this one a shot a few months back. Created by a Russian gentleman and pretty cool too. I think it provides for a total of 35 different SB sites to submit to, many of which are very high PR. However, I found that, although it was fairly simple to set up and use, the amount of successful submissions was around the 50% mark. Not so hot! So nope, that's not good enough for me. The product costs $97 one off.



        Ive use a couple others but have forgotten what they are cos its been a while. Obviously they did not tick all the boxes either, right?



        So what is my tool of choice for automating SB submissions?

        Its called IM Automator and its created and moded by a lady called Caroline Middlebrook. Caroline is a lovely girl and she is totally genuine in trying to ease the path for us IM'ers and SEO'ers. On any email communication I've made with her previously, I've received a prompt reply - from Caroline, and not from someone she employs to handle the admin. I like that!

        Okay, go do a search for IM Automator in Google or Yahoo or Bing and you'll see it at the top of the search results. Sign up and get going! You'll LOVE this tool for the sheer simplicity of it! It does almost every single task for you. Its simply awesome, it really is!

        Do note that it has been having a few teething problems - the software has only been available for the past 3 months and Caroline was badly let down by her hosting company (BlueHost) so she upped and moved everything to a new host. I think everything is working well now though.

        Yes, there are only around 30 SB sites for submission here. But heck - when you get around a 90% success rate who's complaining? In fact, Caroline has been tweaking the software of recent so I imagine this success rate is even better than the 90%.

        For now, submissions have to be capped at the 10 per day mark. Yup, a bit frustrating for some of us really busy SEO'ers. But there has been BIG demand for this software and thus there has to be a cap. There will be a paid-for version out in the coming months which will allow for as many submissions per day as you should wish.

        In fact, Caroline is still in the process of creating a suite of SEO tools so you best watch closely for that cos demand is gonna be huge! I'll be keeping updates on my own SEOTips and Tricks website. Link in my signature box.


        Now go check it out if you have not done so already. Its totally hot stuff!


        Hand in hand we shall work together to meet the challenges of the SEO world. Working apart we limit our capabilities but together we are stronger and shall thrive no-end!

        I wish you the very best!


        Joseph
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        • Profile picture of the author JosephA
          I've re-opened my Twitter account. Oh heck, what's going on here!

          Here is my username:

          josepharch

          PLEASE join up with me and follow cos I will be making a lot of comments on there from now on. I want to really ramp up my following which currently sits at a massive 8 people!

          You may see that I have already commented about a site I set up a while back and is focused on a book author. This is because when I signed up to Twitter using this particular account it was for the purpose of boosting traffic via Twitter. Lucky if I got one unique from that effort!


          And on the subject of books and authors - hmmm, tough stuff. The search volume stats are often huge so its very easy to dive in with sight fully set on massive traffic and thus massive sales to boot. Nope. Does not necessarily work out that way. Remember also - buyer keywords.

          I spent a fair old bit of hard earned cash on that particular site and employed a young lady full time to go buy the books and sit and read 'em all. Then she would write up a review.

          Erm, as good as the writing is, which it is! As good as the writing is, its simply not conducive to making sales. People love to read a really good book review, but when it comes to parting with their money...

          I think I make about an average of 3 sales a day on that site which may sound kind of okay ish, but when the commission for that is something in the region of a whopping 80 cents a pop... You get my point I'm sure!

          Yes, at Christmas you can treble or even quadruple that figure, which then makes things a lot more worthwhile, but that's 2 months a year so what about all the other months?

          Yes, okay, when the author releases a book the sales do go up too, but it means having to write a review myself (???) or employ someone else to do it. If I get someone else to do it, say for a mere 20 bucks or something, it takes 30 book sales to cover that. Not good economics Im sure you agree?

          I was advised to try out an opt-in using A-Weber (great service). I did. I set up a lovely opt-in pop-up (drift-in) and it went swimmingly well! I was getting at times about 8 or 9 sign ups a day - over 12 months that would be over 3000 people. Not big compared to some but still a very healthy looking stat.

          But, what to offer as a way of monetizing the list? Oh dear me! A loser for sure!

          Its all very well carving out your emails for the optin and making them all glossy and wonderful, but if you are spending 45 mins a day on this and making not a single cent then you gotta give yourself a good ol' shaking, you really do!

          Hence my point (again) - think buyer! What is a buyer really looking for? Not images of Ryan Kwanten and his great abs, that's for sure. And not book reviews either, so it would seem! You would think a book review would be the obvious penultimate stage for a buyer, right? Seems not. I don't know, I don't have a moment to sit and read a book, so I don't buy them. I must be missing something!

          Anyone who buys books (fiction) often, tell me what's your thinking here, please?

          I could go on and on here - its all totally relevant to us SEO'ers and IM'ers. And actually, its fun to share this - that site used to cause me no end of stress - up, down, up, down - in Google that is. 5 sales today, 0 the next. Howcome? Cos the site/web pages were up and down like a yoyo. Don't put all your eggs in the one basket, is the point to take here!


          All feedback is most welcome, thanks! And please do sign up to my Twitter account - you can see I love to chat when time permits! So I will be using Twitter a LOT from now on! Should be fun!

          Best to you all!

          Joseph
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    • Profile picture of the author psychiolam
      Hey Joseph,
      FYI i am another girl appear response to your thread now...
      I have used my past one hour to finish all the thread here
      I am very impress of what you have done so far, I would love to have a little advise from you. I start my website just 1 and half month hiv- home- tests dot com; i actually also sell the product worldwide, but i haven't been doing good on the SEO. I have written up articles and post like you do, blog commenting every day, and also directories submitting, i just don't know what i have done wrong...
      I run your website on backlinkwatch and it shows up 13 backlink, which compare to mine i already have 157 but then how can you achieve what you position on google now? I don't understand i am not rank no#1 "hiv home tests" & " hiv home testing" on yahoo, but way 300+ on google. and others just don't seems ranking on google.
      i am getting very frustrated and would appreciate if you guide me to the right path.

      keep up with your good work, and i support you with all my heart!
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      • Profile picture of the author JosephA
        Allan, that indeed would seem like a very plausible analysis - I hope very much that your theory is correct and we can all be happy with the return of such services as Scroogle etc. etc. very soon!

        Micro NF is back up and running fine now, so that may have been some form of techie glitch.

        Thanks for providing this insight!

        Regards
        Joseph

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        Hi Psychiolam, nice to have you on here and hope you enjoy your time!

        Very interesting product!

        I had a look at your home page and all seems fine there so on-page seo looks to be fine from first glance and without looking under the hood.

        Yes, I got you high in Yahoo for the keywords you mentioned.

        Therefore, I have to presume its your previous linking techniques that are not quite working for you, regards to Google. Its the case that Yahoo is much more sympathetic to certain "harder" backlinking techinques than is Google.

        For example, you could well find that if you bombarded your site with Unique Article Wizard style backlinks, in Google you would be no-where. In Yahoo however, you may actually achieve top spot. That's a bit of a generalized assessment but in my experience (up till now) this has been the case a number of times.

        Thus I can only suggest that you re-assess your backlinking techniques and take things from there.

        Google tends to enjoy the much slower type of massage which is more like an aromatherapy session - deeply relaxing, whereby you may indeed fall asleep. Yahoo on the other hand would very happily soak up a very deep-tissue massage and feel all the better for it too!

        Hope that helps. Let me know if you have any other questions regards this.

        Thanks again!

        Kind regards
        Joseph
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          sorry if i deviate a little from the thread subject ...

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          I run your website on backlinkwatch and it shows up 13 backlink, which compare to mine i already have 157 but then how can you achieve what you position on google now? I don't understand i am not rank no#1 "hiv home tests" & " hiv home testing" on yahoo, but way 300+ on google. and others just don't seems ranking on google.
          i am getting very frustrated and would appreciate if you guide me to the right path.
          isn't hiv home testing and hiv home tests some tough keywords to achieve good rankings in google???

          all domains from the first page are aged, 1996 the oldest and 2002 the youngest, all have PR 3-6, and the first spot has Y! Links: 51,600 | Y! .edu Links: 2,010 | Y! .gov Links: 464

          psychiolam ... i think you'll have a lot to write to rank for this keywords
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  • Profile picture of the author Mafialife Chris
    Joseph,

    KILLER blog man. I have learned more here then in any research before. I would like to contact you via email. Can you PM me your email address please.

    I cannot PM you on here, or I would, not to waste anyones time with my post.

    Keep up the great service to your fellow industry.

    Much Respect,

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    • Profile picture of the author JosephA
      Hi Chris, thanks for the great feedback!

      It was my original intention to make this whole thread filled with pure, rich, thoroughly useful content and not the yap, yap you often get when you surf around looking for useful info re IM and SEO.

      Yes sure, you can contact me at josef.archibald@ymail.com

      Look forward to hearing from you!

      Regards!
      Joseph
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      • Profile picture of the author Mafialife Chris
        Originally Posted by JosephA View Post

        Hi Chris, thanks for the great feedback!

        It was my original intention to make this whole thread filled with pure, rich, thoroughly useful content and not the yap, yap you often get when you surf around looking for useful info re IM and SEO.

        Yes sure, you can contact me at josef.archibald@ymail.com

        Look forward to hearing from you!

        Regards!
        Joseph
        Thanks Joe,

        I shot you an email. Keep on rockin in the SEO world. I'll keep following you, and supporting your projects.

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        • Profile picture of the author JosephA
          Hi Chris, received your emails, thanks.

          I'll have to get back to you on this - its just around midnight here so I'm a bit frazzled (or rather, the old brain is).

          Let me churn your situation over a bit and I'll get back to you in due course.

          Thanks!
          Regards
          Jo
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          • Profile picture of the author JosephA
            POTENTIAL HOT NICHE!

            I received an email this morning - something from Paydotcom re a new affiliate offer. Fishing lures. I cracked open the Micro Niche Finder (Google Keyword Tool is just as useful) and after having a quick look-see I'm thinking hmmm - some real nice looking long tails going on here. Anyone fancy hitting the fishing lure niche??

            Don't worry - I don't have time for hitting any niches right now - I just love doing the thinking and a little research and then feeding back potential niches for you to go research a bit more.



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            Hi Annie, really good to have you following along and contributing! Hope you get a lot out of the thread and the conversation!

            All the best Annie!
            Regards
            Joseph


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            Hi Sean - great!

            I'm really happy you got this working so, so well! As you say, its saving you so much time and making things really productive that - who needs to consider outsourcing?

            When you really come to terms with the fact that tools (free ones as well as paid) can cut your workload by leaps and bounds, things can get exciting pretty quick!


            Yup, the website is flying about a bit right now. Its soaking up some recent backlinks and not really enjoying the experience too much. It should settle in due course (for a short time until the next wave of links hit it), and hopefully settle in a very healthy position too!

            Best wishes Sean!

            Joseph


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            Hi Khadijah, thanks for commenting.

            Its really nice to have some success with ranking highly for a keyword or two but when you don't really know how you did it, its not necessarily easy to emulate it, or for that matter, to improve on it.

            I suggest that you monitor your techniques a little more closely so that you can tweak them further for even better results. Plus it means you have confidence in your own abilities that you can do this time and time again, even for some really tricky keywords. Maybe you are already doing that, which is the ideal strategy for greater rewards.

            You take care and enjoy the fun!

            Regards
            Joseph
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            • Profile picture of the author JosephA
              Hi Yoshi, thanks a lot for coming on by and commenting!

              I'm very happy you are finding the posts on here helpful Yohsi, and I am even more thankful that you understand them well, even though you are fairly recent to this game of SEO! It proves I am doing my "job" relatively well, I think.

              The idea of coaching people - those of us who are fairly new to SEO, or perhaps those who have been at it for years with little success to show - sits very nicely with me indeed!


              In answer to your question - I take most of my content from the likes of ezinearticles.com or perhaps Article Dashboard or Wikipedia (great, factual content) and then re-write to a good extent. After all, we cannot be knowledgeable about everything, so we need to "learn" from others who have gone before us.

              There is only one subject I write all my own purely fresh content and that is SEO and some internet marketing subjects. Everything else and I'm as green as a green back is green!

              So no, you do not have to take and use the bio box from the article directory you are using for your content. If you do a decent job of re-writing then there will be absolutely no copy-right infringements, thus you can then use your own bio and your own links.

              Don't get too caught up on the re-writing either. If you are hitting around the 40% mark then this will suffice for most purposes. Some people even go for much lower - 30% or less. I don't. But there simply is no need to ensure a uniqueness of 70% + per article each and every time. Time is precious so best not to waste it!


              Hope that helps Yoshi!

              Anything else you're not sure about then just shout out. I'll try to answer best I can.

              Take care!

              Regards
              Joseph
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  • Profile picture of the author Thinker1
    Sounds very interesting and inspiring. I'll be one of your followers to the end. I wish you a great success with this endeavor.
    Annie
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    Only $3.50 for 350 words article written by native English speakers. Unique contents & 100% copyscape pass guaranteed. Delivered in 4 to 5 days. PM for sample or to order.

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  • Profile picture of the author Writingman1421
    I got to say that TheBestSpinner, with BlogBlueprint, and the Free Do it Again Macro Software makes things really easy. Takes me about 1 to 2 hours to spin a paragraph and get 65% MINIMUM uniqueness with article spinner. I then use the Do It Again Software to submit them WITHOUT EVEN BEING THERE.

    This combo is awesome. It's like getting 60 backlinks for just 1 or 2 hours of EASY work (I spin each snippet 60 times). So, as I said....THANK YOU and keep dishing out these awesome nuggets of info.

    -Sean

    P.S. With scroogle, your website is at spot 15.

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    How many spun copies of a single snippet is "too much" for blogblueprint? For each snippet, I rewrite every sentence or every other sentence and then I go through and change synonyms in each sentence as well. I personally set the counter to 60 for spinning -- but is this too much? Too little?

    This is one of those things where I am, for lack of a better word, "afraid" i'm either overdoing or worse, underdoing. For instance, you said you spin 250 copies of an article. To me, thats a hell of a lot. I assume that many of the articles are copies of one another and that the variat