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Despairing...Same old google dance, no progress.

by Groovystar
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So I've linked everywhere I can and reached out to other sites in my niche to exchange links.

Stuck in the same old general shuffle of lousy spots for all but one of my keywords. Well one's at #2 but it's been there a while and isn't budging.

you name it I've done it. I'm even on ezinearticles now and got 2 articles approved, I plan to write more. Of course, they don't seem to be helping. I'd say in the past month and a half there's been no movement at all in terms of my site. Very much stuck. Of couse my PR is a 0 but for being that it ranks well. It has been around since early April and I've worked from the start.

Twitter youtube articles Facebook blogs, reciprocals one-ways high PR low PR. Forums websites press releases fanpages. La La La, no change. XD

Oh yeah the keywords are:

warrior cats
warriors rpg
#dance #despairingsame #google #progress
  • Profile picture of the author nysportsworld
    keep on backlinking sucess is not overnight
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    • Profile picture of the author Norma Rickman
      It takes 3-6 months for sites to stop dancing, so just keep building those back links slowly and steadily and you'll see great results before you know it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Groovystar
    Okay, thanks guys =) I added a couple of PR 5 and 4 links recently, like in the past few days and the same old same old has been happening, no Pr change either not that I care but it just worries me that we're still a 0, maybe a site takes a while to grow in PR, I just want to make sure google doesn't think we suck =P I just thought getting a few links like that {And they are legit, i checked, no nofollow or other funny business} would at least do something. Are 5 and 4 considered good?

    Oh and does that mean that after 6 months, wherever i stop it will be hard to progress further?
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    • Profile picture of the author Norma Rickman
      PR 4 & 5 are great!

      Not sure what you mean about stopping after six months. Do you mean you'll stop adding content then , or making back links?
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  • Profile picture of the author Carlos Castro
    Is it a .com domain? I have a .info that I linked well enough to start ranking but it got stuck between page 5-7
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  • Profile picture of the author Groovystar
    Yeah it's a .com but so are the ones above me.

    I meant does your rank just get harder to improve on after it stops the 'dancing' after 6 months. Like does google just decide that's where it's going to be, and it's harder to improve after that.

    PR 4 & 5 are great? That's good news, I added 2 5's and 4 4's over this past week. Mostly related sites like other RPGs and they are all forums like mine, and yes the links are on the front page.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      PR gets updated every few months. Not daily,
      or at least it's impossible to tell.

      You never know your true PR by looking at a toolbar or checking daily
      for some movement. PR is due for an update soon.

      Dot info would have nothing to do with it.

      Stop thinking backlinking, backlinking, backlinking,
      and start thinking about the site. Improve it.

      In the end, the site above yours may never budge.
      Sometimes people just don't like the fact that google loves
      the current #1 site and will let nothing topple it.

      Relax and improve the quality of the site.

      Stop thinking about PR as well and wait for the next update.
      If it moves, it moves. If it doesn't, you need to think
      high quality, not quantity.

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      If you were disappointed in your results today, lower your standards tomorrow.

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  • Profile picture of the author lexilexi
    Are you checking that at a good number of the pages you have built links from are not rel=nofollow ?

    Don't worry about the PR.

    I see you're at #9 for "warrior cats" - Have you compared the link profiles of the other sites in the top 10 using siteexplorer.search.yahoo.com ?

    Did you optimize the image in your banner? Loads slow over here.
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    "If there is no door, it becomes necessary to break out through the wall."

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  • Profile picture of the author Groovystar
    Right thta's about where we were a couple months ago for it, actually we were like around #6 for a while now back down and heading further down for reasons I just don't know.

    I have a nofollow checker plugin and if that is unrevealing I look at the source. and considering that these links are on the main pages of these sites and not in a frame, that robots.txt isn't an issue.

    I know some like youtube and twitter are nofollow, but still included it in my campaign.

    I am on the site itself about 14 hours a day interacting with members and such and preparing for an upgrade to the forum that will hopefully speed up the load time.

    As for quality links, everything I'm getting or trying to get is either relevant or high PR or both. Problem is I can't really find any closely related sites that have a high PR. I added instead the 2's and 3's links that I did find.

    PR: That is a good measure of whether a site is authority and trusted, correct?
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  • Profile picture of the author lexilexi
    One reason a site can slide down is that if many of your incoming links are comments, the amount of "link juice" they give can get diluted over time as more comments get added to the page. Also, the competition may be working hard for the same KW.

    Another tip, don't "only" build links from relevant sites. The relevant ones are good, but other ones can help too.

    PR is a measure of a certain amount of authority, but it's been said that Google has been moving importance away from it. What I really meant to say is that I think paying attention to nofollow is more important.
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  • Profile picture of the author Groovystar
    Very few of my links have ever been comments. The reason I have been building relevant sites links more lately is because I already probably have too many irrelevant ones.

    I'm just not sure what direction to go in from here and I'm just feeling lost. I sit down to do some work on it and don't know where to go, feels like no matter what I think of or try it's been done already by me and then I wind up going in circles and getting nothing done.

    What really drives me nuts is that i've also done onsite SEO too, so if that's supposed to matter, well, it didn't do anything. Google hasn't even crawled my page since the 15th, though god knows I update it very often, every couple days for the table and much more often for the forum itself, obviously. {I don't like to update the table's news TOO often because then my members wouldn't get to see each update. So I keep it to every 2 to 3 days...apparently it doesn't matter to google anyway.}

    I thought up till now that I wasn't getting anywhere because, damn, the official site and another really big PR site was above me, but then last couple times I looked these two dinky little sites are up top! Even over the official site. And I know they haven't really done any advertising efforts.
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