Duplicate Content (Blog & Articles)

18 years ago

You can post articles to your web site and then post the very
same article to article directories.

When posting to articles directories, in your authors resource box, link back
to your website/blog.

Don't always link back to your home page. Link back to other pages on your
web site/blog that relate to your article.

Spread the link juice around.

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regmac

18 years ago

Originally Posted by Perry Bee

You can post articles to your web site and then post the very
same article to article directories.

When posting to articles directories, in your authors resource box, link back
to your website/blog.

Don't always link back to your home page. Link back to other pages on your
web site/blog that relate to your article.

Spread the link juice around.

Don't forget to take some time to choose those quality article directories. When I say quality, contents upload were mostly original and the article directory itself got huge traffic or readers.

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askloz

18 years ago

posting duplicate content on other websites is not going to help you at all, eventually those back links will not count.

You should be creating unqiue articles for every article directory and firing links as those approved articles to turn them into authority ones, once that happens, you will climb even higher and faster than doing it you suggest, or posting one unique article to article directories.

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ethicaladvantage 18 years ago

Ezinearticles.com does not allow for duplicate articles to be submitted to them. CAN you get away with it? Yes, you will probably more often than not, get away with doing this, but you must ask yourself "Is is worth getting dropped as an author, or possibly even banned from a source of FREE advertising and marketing?" Ezines overall are looking for quality and original content, if it is not your own, you should at least own the Master Resell Rights to the content, and give it to Ezines first. Remember, original and valuable content is going to be your most efficient way to go. It is not just about seeing results, it is about seeing them long term.
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18 years ago

Originally Posted by askloz

posting duplicate content on other websites is not going to help you at all, eventually those back links will not count.

You should be creating unqiue articles for every article directory and firing links as those approved articles to turn them into authority ones, once that happens, you will climb even higher and faster than doing it you suggest, or posting one unique article to article directories.

I am not sure about that, the back links from duplicate article should count, may be lower quality...Need confirmation. And when you send to different directories, if those directories has other content like links and different title, Google will consider them as "unique" but similar... That's why the same article posted on over 100 directories may have few result shown up! After one or two weeks, Google filter will only show one copy!

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askloz

18 years ago

Well, take my word for it.

From my "studies", posting duplicate content out there, only 16 of them will get indexed, and only 1 - 3 will randomly show up in the search engine results when a search query has been entered.

Now, you need to ask yourself, is it natural to have duplicate content posted all over the place? No, it's not.. What does it do?

It raises BIG RED Flags to the search engines that ONE person is doing this by automated means or any other mass batch submission services, and not a multiple amount of people passing on the same content as information for people to read that could help others and especially not at the same time, or within an hour or so of each other.

Sure, from time to time you may see sites that quote certain parts of that content, but not a lot of sites.

Search engines take a "time and date" snap shot of the first occurrence that it finds new content on a site, whether it be unique content, or duplicate content. Then processes that information from the other sites that it finds the same content and links from other sites. Then tries to work out whether it's a normal process, from a search engine perspective, it's not.

When people place links out there, over time, it's done in a gradual, constant manner, not 50 links here 50 links there every hour, of course there are sites out there who maybe doing some sort of advertising / promo launch, that's acceptable, but from that point onwards, with that type of aggressive promotion going on, it's like a snowball effect, more people that know about a service, more and more links are placed out there, but not to the same type of sites but a mixture of them. And more importantly, different views of content being distributed out to those sites.

Sure, duplicate content links count, but how many of them hold the MAXIMUM value? Hardly any.

Google does NOT consider them as "similar", it's smart enough to know whether or not the content is duplicate or not. Don't under estimate them, these guys know what they are doing. Regardless of the title.

I have software that re-writes titles/subject lines and the body content, so every submission I do is always different.

And as you say, google will filter those results of duplicate content and only show one.

Great, but why post to 100 article directories with the same content and only have 1 of those entries show up? Makes no sense, plus a complete waste of your time.

Trust me, I've done it this way before, and had to choose another route, thinking a little more outside the box.

Now when I post articles, which are all unique, my articles can all be found on the same page, or a few here and there on the first, second, third, even up to the 8th page of google results. I'm covering far much more S.E Real estate here to get that traffic.

It's what I do with my very own sites, my own network of sites, in some cases I dominate the entire first page of google for a single phrase.

My network of sites, almost 700 now, generate a combined total of 10Million + unique visitors per month. If it wasn't for the out of the box thinking, I'd be lucky to see 1% of that.

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I am not sure about that, the back links from duplicate article should count, may be lower quality...Need confirmation. And when you send to different directories, if those directories has other content like links and different title, Google will consider them as "unique" but similar... That's why the same article posted on over 100 directories may have few result shown up! After one or two weeks, Google filter will only show one copy!

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David McAnulty

18 years ago

Originally Posted by askloz

Well, take my word for it.

From my "studies", posting duplicate content out there, only 16 of them will get indexed, and only 1 - 3 will randomly show up in the search engine results when a search query has been entered.

Now, you need to ask yourself, is it natural to have duplicate content posted all over the place? No, it's not.. What does it do?

It raises BIG RED Flags to the search engines that ONE person is doing this by automated means or any other mass batch submission services, and not a multiple amount of people passing on the same content as information for people to read that could help others and especially not at the same time, or within an hour or so of each other.

Sure, from time to time you may see sites that quote certain parts of that content, but not a lot of sites.

Search engines take a "time and date" snap shot of the first occurrence that it finds new content on a site, whether it be unique content, or duplicate content. Then processes that information from the other sites that it finds the same content and links from other sites. Then tries to work out whether it's a normal process, from a search engine perspective, it's not.

When people place links out there, over time, it's done in a gradual, constant manner, not 50 links here 50 links there every hour, of course there are sites out there who maybe doing some sort of advertising / promo launch, that's acceptable, but from that point onwards, with that type of aggressive promotion going on, it's like a snowball effect, more people that know about a service, more and more links are placed out there, but not to the same type of sites but a mixture of them. And more importantly, different views of content being distributed out to those sites.

Sure, duplicate content links count, but how many of them hold the MAXIMUM value? Hardly any.

Google does NOT consider them as "similar", it's smart enough to know whether or not the content is duplicate or not. Don't under estimate them, these guys know what they are doing. Regardless of the title.

I have software that re-writes titles/subject lines and the body content, so every submission I do is always different.

And as you say, google will filter those results of duplicate content and only show one.

Great, but why post to 100 article directories with the same content and only have 1 of those entries show up? Makes no sense, plus a complete waste of your time.

Trust me, I've done it this way before, and had to choose another route, thinking a little more outside the box.

Now when I post articles, which are all unique, my articles can all be found on the same page, or a few here and there on the first, second, third, even up to the 8th page of google results. I'm covering far much more S.E Real estate here to get that traffic.

It's what I do with my very own sites, my own network of sites, in some cases I dominate the entire first page of google for a single phrase.

My network of sites, almost 700 now, generate a combined total of 10Million + unique visitors per month. If it wasn't for the out of the box thinking, I'd be lucky to see 1% of that.

It all comes down to what kind of traffic your are trying to generate to your site. For example, if you are in an extremely competitve niche then search engine traffic may not be realistic.

In that generating traffic from backlinks may be the way to go. Meaning, that submitting to as many articles you can to as many submission sites as you can will probably be the best way for you to generate traffic.

On the other hand, if you are invovled in a unique niche with limited competition then search engine traffic is probably a good way for you to generate traffic. Instead of focusing on quantity, quality would probably be a better approach.

Just think do I want to generate traffic throught the search engines or through backlinks and that will pretty much determine in what direction you want to take your marketing campaign.

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blase40 18 years ago

There is no duplicate content penalty unless the content resides on the same website. Its hard to get duplicate info into ezinearticles.com though. I would recommend writing an article for eza, and after it gets submitted you can use it on you website and blast it out to other article directories as well. If you make a bunch of different resource boxes for the articles you submit to the other directories, you can get some varied backlinks back to your site.
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askloz

18 years ago

Guess you guys aren't listening, why waste your effort posting the same article to loads of article directories? I've tried that, been there, done it, results aren't that good, if you want to take 6 months before one understands this, fine, no worries, but if you want to take advice from a seo pro, then follow what I'm saying peeps. Trust me, duplicate content on more than one site is not going to help.

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Lost Leader

18 years ago

Originally Posted by askloz

Guess you guys aren't listening, why waste your effort posting the same article to loads of article directories? I've tried that, been there, done it, results aren't that good, if you want to take 6 months before one understands this, fine, no worries, but if you want to take advice from a seo pro, then follow what I'm saying peeps. Trust me, duplicate content on more than one site is not going to help.

I am sold. Can someone please post what duplicate is defined as %'s. etc.). What they know to be true ... not what they think is true.

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greatme

18 years ago

yes you can do like this. you can submit your articles to many articles directory. some of them tell you to only submit to few article directories but i think the more you submit the more backlinks you will get.

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CashDoctor

18 years ago

Thanks for the great info.

I wrote an article last night and I threw it up on my blog. I was going to rewrite it and submit to ezine. I am then going to pick the 5 best article directories and rewrite the article still using the same keyword optimization.

One poster made a comment saying I should submit to exine and then once its approved I can put it up on my blog.

Should I delete my blogpost on my domain and then submit that same content to ezine and then once its approved rewrite it 6 times and put 1 on my blog and then 5 others to other article directories.

I am cranking on the articles just want to know the best way to leverage my content.

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nasirjafri

18 years ago

Ezinearticles.com accept only unique writing. Goarticles, find articles, streetarticle etc can accept duplicate content, you need to write different content for ezine and you site. There are many other ways also can help you to increase pagerank and traffic.

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Kay King

18 years ago

One poster made a comment saying I should submit to exine and then once its approved I can put it up on my blog.

Should I delete my blogpost on my domain and then submit that same content to ezine and then once its approved rewrite it 6 times and put 1 on my blog and then 5 others to other article directories.

There have been many discussions and explanations about this in threads here as recently as last week.

I put an article on my site for indexing - then submit the same article. I do not mass submit to many directories - just to one or two. That does not make it "duplicate content" at all. I can't plagiarize myself. Don't worry so much about dupe content - if you are just writing unique, original articles it's not an issue...unless you are just looking for something to worry about.

And before someone tells me my method won't work - I should add I've been doing it this way for several years with no indexing problems on the sites or the article directories.

There is no one right way to do anything - just read the various threads on article marketing here (search function) and decide what works for you.

kay

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18 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

There have been many discussions and explanations about this in threads here as recently as last week.

I put an article on my site for indexing - then submit the same article. I do not mass submit to many directories - just to one or two. That does not make it "duplicate content" at all. I can't plagiarize myself. Don't worry so much about dupe content - if you are just writing unique, original articles it's not an issue...unless you are just looking for something to worry about.

And before someone tells me my method won't work - I should add I've been doing it this way for several years with no indexing problems on the sites or the article directories.

There is no one right way to do anything - just read the various threads on article marketing here (search function) and decide what works for you.

kay

Kay is absolutely right.

I would add one thing however from an SEO standpoint and Kay touched on it. Be sure that your article is on your site FIRST and that it gets indexed prior to submitting it to article directories.

The reason behind this is that SE's usually will consider the content they first located as the original with duplicates being...well, duplicates.

So if you first submit to Ezinearticles.com for example, and THEN place the article on your site, I can nearly guarantee you that the article at Ezinearticles.com will be found first and the SE's will consider that to be the original publication of the article.

Here is also a link to what Google has to say about duplicate content:

Duplicate content - Webmaster Help Center

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Perry Bee

18 years ago

Kay is correct.

Per Ezinearticles terms of service for Authors

"You declare that you are the sole owner and author of the article and own 100% of all copyrights pertaining to it."

http://ezinearticles.com/author-terms-of-service.html

That is all they are asking for is that the article belongs to you.

The article could have already been posted on your site or to another article directory.

As long as the article is yours and your name is on it Ezinearticles will accept it.

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Cash Blasters Online

18 years ago

Originally Posted by CashDoctor

I am putting togethor articles and submitting them to ezine.

I want to start building up my domain as well. What is the Protocol?

Can I post it onto my domain (Wordpress) and then rewrite it and post to Ezine and other article directories.

I want to get my site to start ranking well and not just my articles.

My site is 0 right now.

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I don't know if this helps, but here's a trick I do when creating a website.
First I write up about 10 3000 word articles loaded with top keywords, I try and get those articles ranked high, it takes only about 2 hours for them to appear on google with the company I use, and the articles are free. I have a good instinct and about 90% average for getting my artlces rank in the top 5 on google, and many times that's in the 20 Million to 55 Million page search results.
Then I take the top 7 or 8 articles and post them to my blog site.
And I have a top ranked website very fast, but I also know ya got to have those back links at least 35 to get started good, but I'd aim for 5000 backlinks down the road.

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CashDoctor

18 years ago

Then I take the top 7 or 8 articles and post them to my blog site.

So are you jusst taking the content and making it a blogpost? Or are you actually taking the article and resource box and putting it on your site. Probablay losing the forest for the trees here but I haven't been able to wrap my brain around this. I just want the method so I can stop thinking about it and crank out more articles.

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CashDoctor

18 years ago

You the man loz.

One more:

Whats your take on the timing? Should I put it on my site then the articles? Every version will be unique no duplicate content.

Also my main site is a static HTML site with a wordpress Blog. When putting the article on my site should I make it a blog post (I have the all in one SEO pack etc..) or should I make it a static article HTML?

My site is brand new with no PR. If that helps.

Awesome. I think I have my content strategy planned out now I need to figure out my backlink strategy.

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askloz

18 years ago

Originally Posted by CashDoctor

You the man loz.

One more:

Whats your take on the timing? Should I put it on my site then the articles? Every version will be unique no duplicate content.

First thing, just concentrate on building your site, with regular content, placing around 2-5 links or so to each new page as it's made, while having one pointing to the home page with the same anchor text.

Do this for about 30-50 pages.

Then slowly go back and fetch links to those pages, try and make the descriptions unique for each one. Once you've done all of those pages, go back and do it again, but raise the volume of links going to each page. And so on, and so on. Older your site gets, more links you can get.

Originally Posted by CashDoctor

Also my main site is a static HTML site with a wordpress Blog. When putting the article on my site should I make it a blog post (I have the all in one SEO pack etc..) or should I make it a static article HTML?

Doesn't really matter, but just try to put some related links on the page.

Originally Posted by CashDoctor

My site is brand new with no PR. If that helps.

not really, I don't even bother with PR, I outrank many PR3,4,5, 6 pages with brand new sites.

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awamable 18 years ago

Think this one through for a moment. First of all what is your point to submitting duplicate content. I'm understanding that the whole point of article submissions is to point your ezine article, goarticle ect... back to your blog, website. Now if you were the one reading your article and you found it interesting, then seen the link at the bottom and clicked on it, what would you find? AAHA the same article. Make sense. Consider changing your article around at least 30% & changing your title to make it catchy. Always make sure your keywords are in your title. Preferably at the beginning of your longtail keyword. This business is about hard work.

Example: (Make Money Online-Discover How A 14 yr Old Made A Thousand Dollars Overnight)
Keyword: make money online

Example: (Make Money Online-Is Your Boss Driving You Nuts)
Keyword: make money online
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stbnetblocking

18 years ago

This thread has been helpful for me to read. I've been trying to avoid the mentality of using the same article for two different sites or purposes, because intuitively it doesn't seem right, and now reading has only confirmed this for me. It does make writing more of a challenge, but that's what writing is about anyway right? Creating content in new and inventive ways.