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Question For Experienced SEO Experts...

by lovemyth
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I've been finding some pretty good keywords (in my opinion). This is for a VERY competitive market. One of those keywords for example has 2,400 global searches and 1,600 local. The search engine competition in quotes is 17,400. But the websites and content in the top 10 results are not much "competition"..

I know I need to "spy" on my competitor and find out the amount of back links etc. But is there anything else I'm missing here? What formula do you use as a rule of thumb when it comes to choosing your keywords?? :confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author Martin Pupke
    aren't all seo experts experienced in seo?
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  • Profile picture of the author JJOrana
    It depends on your purpose of doing keyword research. Is it for PPC, adsense, affiliate, market analysis, etc.

    BUT if you're looking for keywords to make money like adsense, I check the SEO Value.


    It's basically the maximum potential click on rank #1 in Google x the avg adwords cost per click.

    Market samurai have great reporting on this.
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  • Profile picture of the author lovemyth
    At least we know who an experienced and expert smart ass is...


    JJOrana, it is to create affiliate sites for say, Click bank products.. And just use SEO with no PPC..
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    • Profile picture of the author connorbringas
      Well you definitely check their sites using yahoo site explorer, seomoz but what I found useful is using a tool that sees how many views per month they get by being in the top spot. I forgot what its called i think its seo quake
      there are a number of tools but checking backlinks doesnt really show all their links anyway
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      • Profile picture of the author lovemyth
        Originally Posted by connorbringas View Post

        Well you definitely check their sites using yahoo site explorer, seomoz but what I found useful is using a tool that sees how many views per month they get by being in the top spot. I forgot what its called i think its seo quake
        there are a number of tools but checking backlinks doesnt really show all their links anyway


        Thank you, will look into that!
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  • Profile picture of the author thesweetspot
    LOL...sry...you guys are funny..but seriously market sam is the best tool i have found..i have used other trials, but market sam won me over..

    But you want to know what your purpose is...some people who search dog training ebooks..are usually in to buying and then dog training...could mean many things.

    but figure out your comp. i recommend you use spyfu..it is quick and it is free for the simple information or the compete.com
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    • Profile picture of the author lovemyth
      Originally Posted by thesweetspot View Post

      LOL...sry...you guys are funny..but seriously market sam is the best tool i have found..i have used other trials, but market sam won me over..

      But you want to know what your purpose is...some people who search dog training ebooks..are usually in to buying and then dog training...could mean many things.

      but figure out your comp. i recommend you use spyfu..it is quick and it is free for the simple information or the compete.com

      Hey thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author kposs
    I like a program called WebCompAnalyst (a Jonathan Leger product). It has similar data to Market Samurai but is specific to reviewing the keyword competition and gives you a nice overview for a phrase including information like PageRank, page backlinks, site backlinks, titles, etc. You can also dig into any listing to look at their anchor text, etc.

    I rarely look at the number of searches or competing results to assess competition. I look at what sites are currently ranked in the top 10 for the keyword and use the data from WebCompAnalyst to figure out if I could beat those site, with what effort and in what timeframe. Some of that comes from experience, of course. But SEO is a little art and a little science anyway.
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    • Profile picture of the author lovemyth
      Originally Posted by kposs View Post

      I like a program called WebCompAnalyst (a Jonathan Leger product). It has similar data to Market Samurai but is specific to reviewing the keyword competition and gives you a nice overview for a phrase including information like PageRank, page backlinks, site backlinks, titles, etc. You can also dig into any listing to look at their anchor text, etc.

      I rarely look at the number of searches or competing results to assess competition. I look at what sites are currently ranked in the top 10 for the keyword and use the data from WebCompAnalyst to figure out if I could beat those site, with what effort and in what timeframe. Some of that comes from experience, of course. But SEO is a little art and a little science anyway.

      Yes it is ART and SCIENCE! HAHA Thank you! Will look into that..
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