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Can Google Access Behind Login Page?

by Tony Dean
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If you create thousands of 'profile' pages how does Google access and index them if there is a login page before even you can access them?
#access #google #login #page
  • Profile picture of the author miranon
    Originally Posted by Tony Dean View Post

    If you create thousands of 'profile' pages how does Google access and index them if there is a login page before even you can access them?
    Can you give a example?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    Originally Posted by Tony Dean View Post

    If you create thousands of 'profile' pages how does Google access and index them if there is a login page before even you can access them?

    They can't. I've seen some backlink profile sellers claiming that they can but I am not buying it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Phasm
    Google will never crawl past a login screen, so if you want something to be indexed make sure it can be accessed without logging in.
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      • Profile picture of the author Phasm
        Originally Posted by yukon View Post

        That's a load of crap, G will crawl behind some forums that require login.
        Interesting theory...how does google go about getting login details to access member only content? I think you are misunderstanding the question
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        • Profile picture of the author Kay King
          It would depend on how the forum works, wouldn't it? On some forums and private sites you can't view posted threads or make posts without logging in.

          On other forums you can read but can't post without logging in. The threads in the WF often show very quickly in google search results.

          I've seen forums where you could access profiles without logging in - others you can't.

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          • Profile picture of the author Phasm
            Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

            It would depend on how the forum works, wouldn't it? On some forums and private sites you can't view posted threads or make posts without logging in.

            On other forums you can read but can't post without logging in. The threads in the WF often show very quickly in google search results.

            I've seen forums where you could access profiles without logging in - others you can't.

            kay
            Exactly!
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          • Profile picture of the author ECS Dave
            Originally Posted by Phasm View Post

            Google will never crawl past a login screen, so if you want something to be indexed make sure it can be accessed without logging in.
            Exactly... This includes profiles that can (or can't) be seen, whether a login is required, or not.
            Originally Posted by yukon View Post

            That's a load of crap, G will crawl behind some forums that require login.
            Only if the forum operator allows it...
            Originally Posted by ECS Dave View Post

            @yukon -->Some, not all, forums (and forum softwares) have settings that allow certain content to be seen without logging in. This can include content such as posts, profiles, and whatever else the site owner allows. SimpleMachine has settings that allows the forum owner to do this...

            edit:So, google can find "protected" content, eh?

            I didn't find this - http://www.warriorforum.com/war-room...tml#post803619 - here on google - "The "War Room" is my favorite so far. Thanks to everyone for all the wonderful tools." - Google Search - See if you can find some recent "protected" war room posts on google...

            Oh wait! You're NOT a War Room Member...

            Be Well!
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            Originally Posted by Phasm View Post

            Originally Posted by yukon View Post

            That's a load of crap, G will crawl behind some forums that require login.
            Interesting theory...how does google go about getting login details to access member only content? I think you are misunderstanding the question
            Yes, it appears that yukon has lost their way...
            Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

            It would depend on how the forum works, wouldn't it? On some forums and private sites you can't view posted threads or make posts without logging in.

            On other forums you can read but can't post without logging in. The threads in the WF often show very quickly in google search results.

            I've seen forums where you could access profiles without logging in - others you can't.

            kay
            I think you're onto something there Kay

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  • Profile picture of the author ECS Dave
    Some, not all, forums (and forum softwares) have settings that allow certain content to be seen without logging in. This can include content such as posts, profiles, and whatever else the site owner allows. SimpleMachine has settings that allows the forum owner to do this...

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    Originally Posted by yukon View Post

    That's a load of crap, G will crawl behind some forums that require login.
    So, google can find "protected" content, eh?

    I didn't find this - http://www.warriorforum.com/war-room...tml#post803619 - here on google - "The "War Room" is my favorite so far. Thanks to everyone for all the wonderful tools." - Google Search - See if you can find some recent "protected" war room posts on google...

    Oh wait! You're NOT a War Room Member...

    Be Well!
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      A simple Google search proves that Google can cache private pages on some unprotected forums.

      Like I said check the cache, it's that simple.
      has nothing to do with what we are talking about. If a site is in the cache then it was crawlable at that time. If it can't now crawl the site again the benefit will shortly vanish. We are only talking about protected sites
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  • Profile picture of the author Jordan Kovats
    I agree, I think it is forum specific and site owner specific.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Well duh... lol,

      So now you see the light?
      and you still aren't seeing it. This is what the OP asked

      "how does Google access and index them if there is a login page before even you can access them?"

      read the bolded part. Get it now? He was specifically asking if they were protected would Google be able to bypass the protection
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      • Profile picture of the author ECS Dave
        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

        Originally Posted by yukon View Post

        Originally Posted by ECS Dave View Post

        Only if the forum operator allows it...
        Well duh... lol,

        So now you see the light?
        and you still aren't seeing it. This is what the OP asked

        "how does Google access and index them if there is a login page before even you can access them?"

        read the bolded part. Get it now? He was specifically asking if they were protected would Google be able to bypass the protection
        That was a fascinating conversation, wasn't it?

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  • Profile picture of the author Tony Dean
    Excellent replies Warriors, it's what I suspected if you have to login big G can't find your post only if it's made public to one and all and the login is only to post a reply.
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  • Profile picture of the author evanlambda
    No, Google doesn't have magical powers to see things that require a login. If you want that information to be indexed, tho, you can do this:

    1) Create a Google compatible sitemap with containing all your pages and their weight (if you're using wordpress there are plugins to do this automagically)
    2) Write up a script to bypass authentication for Googlebot, so it can view the pages and index them.

    This has implications though. If a user is using some method to mimic Googlebot HTTP headers then they can view the content without logging it (they'd also need to know where to look)

    Its a trade off but an option if you really want Google to index these pages.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sleaklight
    You can create login info for google though for services like adsense and other services. But if the data is protected with a login screen, then the contents can not be indexed.
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